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Today's guests. Seahawks wide receiver, Cooper Cup. Rams general manager, Les Need. Actor and comedian, Patton Oswalt. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
Yes, it is. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show Live on a Wednesday in Los Angeles, California. Cooper Cup, Lesni, Patton, Oswald, and you all hanging out with us today at 844-204-Rich. Give us a call. We've got time for you.
It's the NBA Finals game one tonight. I feel like I'm 30 years old again because I was celebrating my 30th birthday in a bar called Denial. Believe it or not, I turned 30 in denial in New York City in between games of the NBA Finals between the Spurs and the Knicks. Dr. Jack Ramsey was at my birthday party.
That actually happened. I feel like I am 30 years young again. And NBA finals begin tonight. Holy crap. It's going to be amazing.
And I can't wait to talk about it again with you. 844-204-Rich. Number denial. How are you over there, Chris Brock? And what's going on?
Great. I'm looking up to see if denial is still around. Does it exist? It appears so.
Okay, great. Listen, I didn't think I'd start the show this way. But when you turn 30 with Dr. Jack Ramsey and your Uncle Myron all there in the same spot, Okay. You know, you're living life.
And that's what I did. And I didn't think that the Knicks would make the NBA Finals again against the Spurs this year, but it is happening and it's exciting. And I say hello to you as well, Jason Feller. Hey, what's up, Britch? We are one team.
Good to see you. TJ Jefferson. I once had Matthew Stafford at one of my birthday parties this afternoon. Did you really? Yeah.
No kidding. Huh. Long story with the music. Listen, speaking of Matthew Stafford, he once upon a time was acquired by the Rams in a big trade that everybody went, what? Um and um The one thing we didn't listen.
Big Everybody should be as giddy as Sean McVay is right now. Everyone should just live their lives and just be as happy and as smiley as Sean McVay was yesterday. There was no Mr. Grumpy. uh when he was standing and sitting and introducing Um Okay.
Miles Garrett. Look at him. Look at Sean McVay. It's almost like the opposite of the Ty Simpson president. Dude, there was no Mr.
Grumpy. Actually, didn't once upon a time Miles Garrett refer to himself as Grumpy? You know, like he's a Grumpy guy? But I mean, he's not in Cleveland anymore, with all due respect. He's now with a team that Had odds to win the Super Bowl better than most.
Before they acquired him, and now they're the prohibited favorites to win the Super Bowl, wait for it in SoFi Stadium just up the road from here in Los Angeles, California, just like they did after they acquired Matthew Stafford. And here we are again. Here we are again. Um and I couldn't, it's just it's just tough to believe. That the Browns did it.
And the Rams. We're the ones to basically Get them to do it. Hmm. Because they're the ones who said, here's the young Turk and Jared Verse along with a 1, 2, and 3 over the next three years. Which is an excellent package for a team like Cleveland that is chock full of terrific young players.
Who can now all grow Up together with Todd Munc and being their their dad, I guess. Got the dad jokes. Oh, dad jokes, everybody. Hey, Miles, who? What Garrett are we talking about?
As if there's other garrets. Miles?
Well There was a face-to-face meeting. In uh in Rams country between everyone there. Yeah, there was a face to face meeting between the coach and the and Miles Garrett here. And um He waved his no trade clause to do it. Shocker.
You don't say. Here, let's play this out. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's play this out here.
You're Miles Garrett. Oh, no, you're you're um You're wait a minute. You're Andrew Perry. Oh, great. Of the Cleveland Browns here.
Okay.
Okay, great. And I'm Miles Garrett. And you're Asked me about Um waiving my no trade clause. Hey, Miles, good to see you. Good to see you, too.
Unfortunately, we got to do a move. We're going to be trading you. Don't tell me who you are. Just tell me. Would you be willing to waive your no-trade cause?
Well, who am I being traded to? We're going to send you to the ranch. Yeah. Are you sure? Yes.
Where's the pen? Gierpan. Are you sure? Since the very beginning it's always been about winning and No, it's it. It is breaks down to the the timing of everything.
What does it realistically look like for Nope too. to be a winner now and to have a opportunity to do that immediately. No, that was an opportunity that was just too difficult to pass up. And I always have love in my heart for Cleveland, the city, community, all its players and everything else. But The opportunity to come here have a immediate and profound impact on this team.
It was something I just had to move forward with. He's going to have a profound impact, all right. And he's going to have He's going to have situations where He's being asked to protect leads. week in, week out. That was the last time that happened for him, with consistency.
They did make the playoffs a couple of years ago with Joe Flacco. as their quarterback. Then they go into Houston, and that was a one in Dunsack. They won a playoff game. They beat Pittsburgh.
So very rarely is he just like, hey, just like the last three weeks, come on in and wrap this thing up for us, will you, Miles? You know? The video of um Caleb Williams. Fading back to Indiana to launch a you can't believe this type touchdown to. Push overtime.
Any NFC divisional game, for instance. What if Miles Garrett's the one trying to track him down? Will he be able to fade back that far?
Okay.
Miles was asked about playing in situations where He's late in the game with a lead, with consistency, and whether he feels that might lead to actually wait for it. More sacks. I mean, that did play into the decision as well. Knowing I had the ability, no late game, to pin my ears back, not just. because we need a play to be made, but because we have the lead and it's obvious passing downs, being able to make those game-changing plays to win the game for us, those are things that appeal to me.
I'm sure appeal to all of us as D-liners.
So that's something I really look forward to. Yeah. What about leaving Cleveland though? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but It's played out. Like I said, he just had the greatest arguably.
Season, single season of any defensive player. Ever in the history of the league, most sacks. Unanimous Defensive Player of the Year. And his Cleveland Browns team chose sixth overall. Leaving Cleveland, hit it.
No, definitely had to sleep on it. I don't take my time in Cleveland for granted. No, I did know. love being there with I know I I My family had become really part of the community. You definitely had to start to plant roots.
No. Home uh and uh no. Just becoming friends with all the people in your neighborhood and getting to know people and getting out and just feeling like this is your second home. Stuff like that. Tears at you to leave and to break away, but that's just a part of the things you learn to have to.
um you know adjust to as you as you you grow up and and learn you have to move on. Um I'm wondering if Miles even knows that the kingdom of the The Rams originated in Cleveland. 1936 is when they were founded. He won the 1945 NFL Championship game, by the way. The Browns were born.
So how many people even do that? I don't know why I wanted to go history lessons there. I did not. There you go. And then So He's got a chance now to grow in Los Angeles, he says.
Hit it. I see a A position to solidify myself here as well, among the very great. I know plenty of great years in front of me and being able to To cement that legacy not only as a football city here in LA, but as an individual in the winning. DPOY and a Super Bowl or more, those things are definitely pressing on my mind and I have definitely a bit of urgency to do it and do it right away.
So, my son Cooper, who thinks I'm a passionate Rams fan, accuses me of that all the time. 15-year-old young man, still very impressionable. He said to me, and the reason why I'm going all in on this for many reasons is he said to me, Dad. Is Miles Garrett the greatest player? In the NFL.
To be traded. Effort. Yes. And I'm like Uncle Marshall, who he's referred to in this house many times, Marshall Falk. He got traded.
Eric Dickerson got traded. Those guys weren't at that level yet. To make that case, Favre got traded. Steve Young got traded. But a guy who's like not in his ninth year.
Clearly first battle Hall of Famer. Coming off of the greatest season, arguably, of any defensive player, certainly for. Anybody who's a pass rusher. Did the Rams just pull off the trade? Involving The greatest player in the history of the NFL to ever be traded.
Others were free agents, let go. Did that just happen? I mean, Favre was traded at the end of his career. You're talking about a trade of a player in his prime as Eric Dickerson, man. Peak of his powers.
Eric Dickerson. Peak of his powers. Went from the Rams to the Colts in 1987 and 1984. He set the single season record with 2,105 yards. He won Offensive Player of the Year in 86.
And then there was a contract dispute. He got traded. Uh to the Colts in Halloween of 87.
So that was a trade deadline deal? Yes indeed. Hmm. I guess what was the haulback? Three firsts.
Which is why people in Cleveland are like, we didn't get, we didn't get, it's different times, totally different times. Oh, yeah, we see. But you got Jared Verse back, who, by the way, you're going to love. There'll be lots of verse jerseys in the dog pound. For instance, McCaffrey got traded, Randy Moss got traded.
But Randy was just like apparently, you know, wasting away in Raiderville. And there were some thoughts that he had not been good on his last legs. Yeah, he had not been good. Is Miles Garrett the greatest player? to ever be traded.
In the history of the NFL. And did the Rams already with a team that Almost made the Super Bowl five minutes from making the Super Bowl last year with the MVP quarterback. where they also acquired in a shocker. Trade. A few years ago.
Is he the greatest player to be traded ever? And I turn to Cooper and I'm like, he very damn well could be. Sure, why not? Yeah. He's gonna be the all-time sack leader when he retires.
Yeah, he definitely is. We're talking about one of the handful of greatest pass rushers we've ever seen. At age thirty, being acquired with years left on a contract. And him saying I've I've still got more years to go. And a chip on his shoulder wanting to win multiple chips.
Yeah, yeah. Unreal.
So when he s strolls in and He'd like his number ninety five from Pune Ford. He gets it. But the question is: how much did it cost him? This was a phone exchange. Yeah.
I was just a conversation and uh no idea. Didn't take too much. Maybe more than a couple, but he was open to it. And I understood that there had been some other numbered trades before me.
So I based my decision off of that. But no, he understood. And I'm glad to be sticking with 95. Sean is out of his mind. Les is still playing poker.
Les doesn't stop playing poker. Sean McVay has kids and has won a Super Bowl. Yes. Beautiful wife as well. Do you think yesterday was the greatest day of his life?
Looked like it. I don't think I've ever seen him happier. It's crazy. You had to compose himself for a second.
Well, actually, wait a minute. If you're saying anything football related, it would become the best day of his life. the best day of his life. Might be then. If Aaron Donald says, I want to come back to play.
Well, I think that's how we need to. Hey, pal, you were, you were. Upset that this was brought up for overreaction Monday, but we pushed overreaction Monday because of this moment. Yeah, and then this trade went down, right? Talking about it.
But So Yeah, I think we all need to prepare for somebody. It's now becoming more and more possible because he hasn't shot it down when it's been asked of him by various media folk. Exactly.
Now if he comes back, now this trade becomes... A jared verse, a first, a second, and a third. For Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett. Yeah. That's now what's barred.com.
going about his life.
So two of the I don't know. A dozen greatest defensive players ever are now back on the same team.
Well, not yet. And but it's real enough to ask the question of Sean McVeigh in the press conference on Tuesday. Here's what I would tell you guys overall too: is you know, Aaron's a guy that I stay really close in touch with, and I know the respect that he has for Miles. Talk to him about the opportunity to be able to bring him on board. If Aaron decides he wants to dust him off at the age of 35, I bet you he could still do it at a pretty high clip.
Yeah. Mean yeah. Think.
Now, how does it work? How does it work? Who has to call whom? Does uh do the Rams call and get a heat check? Do they send a trusted player?
and teammate. to go get that heat check. Or is it just McVay just call him up and saying amen? Or is it less? Because that's one way to generally manage the situation more is more, people.
More is more. In the NFL, there's no such thing as less is more, more is more. Unless The less is Sneed. More is more. That's why we're seeing another Avengers movie coming out this fall.
You know? There's not enough Avengers in the Avengers Doomsday movie. Oh, it's Spider-Man. Not enough. More is more.
Let's get them all. Let's get them all. Now while we got the muscle. That's What the NFL is all about. Full frank panting.
From Godfather Part two Let's get them all. Let's get them all now while we've got the muscle. That's what Les Need is bringing to the Rams. That's what Miles Garrett brings the Rams, and if Aaron Donald can do it, You do it. What do you want?
Aaron. With all due respect to the guys who he would be playing. and taking playing time from. But Les is the guy who's basically saying. To everyone in the Rams, make room.
For more. Because we're not satisfied. That's why they kicked more than just a tire on A.J. Brown. They would have been able to Devontae Adams as a future Hall of Famer.
They would have traded me. They would have had to have done that. Yeah. But instead Adams is probably just like looking in the mirror going I am very glad that fell apart. Yeah.
Because he's here. And so is Miles Garrett. Arguably the best player that's ever been traded. In the history of the National Football League, you could make the argument we just talked about it at length. What does Cooper Cupp think about it?
How did that land in the Seattle? Seahawk. Locker room. He's next. Then Les Need will join us at the top of the next hour.
And then Patton Oswalt will stroll into our studio. In between, I've got a top, I've got my power rankings. Oh. Uh the um Most influential Figures of the NBA Finals. Oh, nice.
Notice the way I parsed that. I didn't say players. Most influential figures. Of the NBA Finals. Let's do it.
Here we go. No contest wrestling later on. Maybe Heneralissimo O'Shea Jackson Jr. will join us in time. Cooper Cup is next.
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I'm very good. Thank you for having me. Dude, what's life like for you first week of June? Here, what do we got? What's it like?
I mean, the weather up here is fan is amazing. I mean, you know, the the QB room here, the QBs just have a monopoly on the best room in house. You're looking over the we're looking out over the lake. There's eagles flying around outside. It's just.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, you gotta. We're on hard knocks this year, and I'm sure there'll be a whole segment on. The real estate of the QB room.
No, I've been to the beautiful facility there, but I've never been in the QB room. Um so what do you mean? Is it wide receivers on a window? What do you got? The one whole wall of the QB room looks out over the lake.
Like it's it's amazing. Looking out over Mercer Island, you got the eagles flying around out there. You got the twelve flag Flag, both flag laying out there. Um, it's just a fantastic place. I mean, it's a fantastic place to come to work.
Oh, so when you say the Eagles, like Jalen Hurts is out there, is that what you're saying? No, yeah, yeah. I mean, and in the trees, like a news up there, okay. I mean, yeah, I mean, Brown was there, he's he wasn't, he wasn't there today, but you got guys, all yeah, all kinds of AJ Brown was there on Monday, and now he's just suddenly not there anymore. That's pretty weird.
Well, that's wild. And I do love this time of year because obviously it's. It's a little bit of a chillax, but you're beginning to ramp it up, right? Like this is a, and you know, this is going to be the conversation, certainly in places like mine: is how do the Seahawks run it back? That's going to be the conversation.
So how do we answer such a question? Cooper Copp. Yeah, well I think, you know, I've I've got the luxury of having gone through You know what this Offseason was, right? I mean, you go through, you You reach the mountaintop, you achieve your goals, and then you go through an offseason, you come back here. And Everyone wants to talk about what happened the year before, but it's just all about moving forward.
I mean, just like any other year, you got to learn from the things that happened the year before. And regardless of how good the season went, There's so much to improve on, so much to fix, so many things that were left on the table. Um and you have to continually improve. It's just the way that's why the NFL is Is the way it is. Why the NFL is, you know, in my opinion, the best sports league in the world is because things just keep moving forward.
Things keep adapting. There's no stagnancy. If you're stagnant for a moment, you're going to get passed up. And so going through that, it's all about moving forward. It's all about looking ahead, so improving on the processes that we had established last year, taking those and re-establishing them, building them, refining them, and competing.
You come out here and OTAs and man, we're competing. We're using all the time. I mean, the PAs on us about the times. We're going to be fulfilling every minute that is available. We're going to be competing against each other.
We're going to be challenging each other. And we've been doing it up to this point. It's been really fun being prepared for this OTAs, and guys are chomping at the bit to get back to work.
So let me ask you this question, Cooper Cup. Are you leading the way in terms of talking to people about what it's like to repeat? Are you leading that left team at all? Yeah, I mean, I think I'm I'm certainly Available to share if people have questions. I mean, I think Mike's done a great job of understanding that and taking that from a very early point in the offseason, saying, hey, this is a The understanding, the recog uh Mila recognized real quickly How fleeting this moment is.
You win the Super Bowl. You know, a few days go by, and you're like, man, now it's all about next year. Like, you have to move forward. You have to be able to take that. Like, man, that was really fun.
Here we go. Let's go. Let's start planning, start getting things in order for this next year and setting things up and challenging stuff. And the coach is working all off season to make sure when we come here for OTAs, there's things figured out. There's new plans, there's new wrinkles, there's things that we're going to tinker with, there's things that we're going to tighten up.
He didn't need any help from me getting all that stuff, all that messaging, all that stuff put together. But I'm certainly here. If there's anyone that wants to talk about it, I'm here and able to share the importance of it and be able to point things out when things aren't up to the standard. And when things do when people do start to step back, saying, Hey, you know, this is all about. Stepping forward.
Everything's about stepping forward. As soon as you take a step back, as soon as you stop moving, you're going to get passed up. I'm obviously referring to Mike being the head coach, Mike McDonald, here. And you know, prior to your arrival, he arrived, and his opening speech to the team is the stuff of legend because he spoke a ton into existence. He basically gave everyone a roadmap.
Of what he expected and what to expect, and it happened. And so, my question for you is: What do you say this time around that you're willing to share to start things off, Cooper? Yeah, he just got off there and started prophesizing and putting it all on the table. It's just like, I think it's the same thing. Because what he's.
What he's saying is really. You know, it's a universal Truths about this game and what it takes to go out there and achieve your goals. And there's actually a UW coach, old UW coach. Um Here in Seattle that Uh You know, I I read his book and and I think one of the things that he said, he's like, You have to pay the awful price. Pay the awful price in the office.
It's going to take work. Whatever it is that you want to achieve, anything that's worth achieving is going to be really hard to do. And when Mike got here and he laid out all these things, like what the plan was and what it was going to look like and the style it was going to look like and how we were going to operate, All these things are just, I mean, that's there's not. You can It it's not it's not it's not uh You know, super complicated. It's very simple.
But it's not easy, you're right. There's very simple things that we know are true, but they are not easy to do. And so I was like, I had to step into this and say, this is, we're just going to lean into doing the simple things at a very high level. We're going to show up and we're going to work. We're going to challenge each other.
We're going to talk honestly with one another. And we're going to make this a very challenging place to come in and play. We're going to be one unit. You know, you come here, we're going to punch people in the mouth. That's what we want to do.
You know, he's just taken all those things, he's made it very. Real, very visceral for us, and something that we get to see each and every day, and that we're challenged in to live out every single day.
So he just came back in this. this year to make a long story short and just Double down. Like, hey, this is how we operate. This is who we are. This is what we're going to be about.
And you step in here, you guys are going to make this come alive. And we're going to be able to go day by day and go achieve what we want to. Two time Super Bowl champ Cooper Cup here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's the offense looking like with Uh Brian Flurry now uh in charge. and Clint Kubiak now in charge of the Vegas Raiders.
And you know that's usually another thing that a Super Bowl winning team has to deal with is coaching staffs rated and rosters changed and things like that. What can you tell us about the offense? Cooper. Yeah, I mean it's it's uh it's good. There's New stuff, there's new wrinkles, there's new things that he's had from his more extended time down in San Francisco.
Clint had his time in San Francisco, but he also had time in Minnesota at his time as the OC when he was in New Orleans. And so there's just like there was. Different stuff there, and then there's stuff that Brian's bringing over and stuff that he's making his own, stuff that he wants to push that wants to be a part of. What the CLC docs are going to be this year. And so it's been fun to go through and learn and to be able to challenge each other.
And it's nice because I think what One of the hardest things is the complacency that comes in when you know an offense, right? You have you like, man, I know all this already. You come into OTAs and you aren't studying your playbook maybe as much as you should because you're like, oh, I already know all these plays from last year.
Well, you can't do that because there's enough. Nuance, there's enough change, there's enough stuff going on. It's like, hey, no, you got to be in your stuff. You got to make sure you're on your P's and Q's, that you're spending the time necessary to make sure when you come into work that you know this stuff and are dialing it in, right? There's enough detail and all these different things that really challenge guys to come in and be ready to go out there and make these plays come alive.
So it's been really good and enjoying just building it. It's been a fun thing to kind of put together and feel like you're kind of building it all together and making it our own again. And I know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it anyway, Cooper Cup. I'm going to do it. Is Sam Donnell any different?
As a Super Bowl-winning quarterback, coming in differently, different ways carrying himself. He's now a married man. What do you got for me on that front? No, not that much different. I mean, it's the same.
Same guy. Yeah, no, I just I was trying to think of a good joke, but I couldn't think of anything. It's okay. You leave that to me. You catch.
You just be yourself. You just be your smart, dirty dude self. It's all good. I'll do that. No, you're the office funny guy.
I know. I I sh I let you let you do your job. Yeah, yeah, no, he's he's been great. I mean, he's still like the he's just so He is a robot, and that he is just like, he comes and he's like, man, I want things to be perfect. I want things to be dialed down.
I need the details. I need the why. Let's go. How much better can we be? And he's like that from day one, just.
That's who Sam is.
So same Sam. Yeah, I got nothing. He did play a little more golf, I think, this OTA's than before.
So there is that. I mean, he gets the view. He gets the golf, right? He gets the view. He gets it off.
He says game's coming together.
So I haven't seen it apparently. All right. Allegedly. We'll keep an eye on all of that. Another challenge that defending champs need to deal with is the target on the back from all other.
31 teams, especially those in the division. I'm sure it was not lost upon you. Your old team acquired.
somebody potentially very significant in terms of Difference making. Miles Garrett is now a Los Angeles Ram. How did that news hit you, Cooper Cup? Yeah, obviously, huge news yesterday. I don't think anyone, maybe, maybe you in your all-knowingness saw that coming, but.
No, I I mean, look, Real good football player. I think Jared Verse is a really good football player.
So, you know, whoever it was that we're going to have to line up against, they're going to be really good. You know, I think the Rams have a real good football team over there. They've made some moves this offseason. You know, but like you said, you know, whatever, target on your back, whatever. Every team's going to show up in the NFL.
Teams are going to show up ready to go. Like they want to show up on it, wanting to beat you regardless of what you did or who you are or whatever it is. You just want to beat the people across them. That's just that's just what it is.
So anything that's said on top of that is all. Yeah. Whatever. It doesn't hold any weight. Like, yeah, everyone's bringing it.
I get it.
So it's going to be a fun year. I think there's a lot of good football teams out there, and we're going to be real competitive. You know, you put it all together here, and if you don't mind me turning you into a a pundit. But there's a logic conversation that thinks that Aaron Donald might be sitting at home going, I'm not playing with him. I already texted him and told him that he's not loud.
So we're good. Oh, wait, what? Pardon me? What happened? No, I just texted Aaron and said, Yeah, I said, Don't even think about it.
I just left it at that.
So we're good. I'm not worried about it because he's not.
So you told me. You stopped. I already nipped it in the bud. No one has to worry. It's all set.
So, the Avengers are not going to unite for Doomsday? Is that what you're saying? No, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. I love Aaron.
Aaron's, gosh, he's such a good football player. Great dude. Loved taking the field with him down there in LA. I don't know what's going to happen. That would be crazy.
He is a very good football player, and I don't care. Whatever, how old he is, how long he's not played, whatever. Like Aaron Donald's Aaron Donald.
So. Um But yeah, it doesn't matter because I told him he can't.
Well done. Good job, Cooper. Guys, Cooper Cup has nipped it in the bud. It's not happening. Nipped it in the bud.
Over. Breaking news out of Seattle.
Okay.
There we go on that front. And before I let you go, is there any rumors within the building of what the Super Bowl ring is going to look like? at all, any conversation on that front. Cooper. Yeah, so I I've I know uh I know Jason of Beverly Hills.
He's doing the rings.
So I've got a pretty good feel. I got a pretty good feel for what's coming. I think there's, I do. I do, but I'm not telling. I haven't told anyone.
I have told nobody.
So I'm looking forward to. I think there's going to be. I don't know the whole picture. I think there's been. Key details that have been redacted, but I've got a good feel for it.
But I'm looking forward to it.
Okay.
All right. Does it open? I can't start saying things. I haven't told anyone. So I'm not going to come on your radio show and then just tell everybody.
But it's a radio TV show. You know what I mean? It's not just a rough. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's it's both.
Okay.
All right, so you know the details. You've already told Aaron Donald he's not allowed to come back and play with Miles Garrett for the Rams. Um we got that. Check. Oh, one last thing because this one's for me.
At the Combine, I'm obsessed with the football on a stick. You know, that they put the football on the stick and they use it to simulate the snaps. I can't get enough of it. There it is. I'm holding it.
Mike Mayock couldn't, you know, enough of it, is what he believed. He basically quit NFL Network to go run the Raiders because I was so obsessed about it. Did I see a photograph of a helmet on a stick? Yeah, there's a helmet on a stick. This is what we're talking about here: the equivalent of football AI.
It is taking just all of the like it is it is the what? Like, no, I can't. I can no longer you know Bend over and snap the ball, or get on knee and snap the ball. Like, I would rather stand up and just move the ball with my hand. Right.
You're right. Like, sure. The helmet thing. Like, I'd rather not, like. Have to do anything physical.
I'm just going to hold a stick out there and do it. It's just, we're letting the football, like it's volunteer. It's just the stick is becoming the AI, right? It's taking everyone's like, you don't have to do it, don't work hard. It won't work hard.
You guys, you guys take it easy. You coaches, you guys sitting around working hard all day, sitting there, working and sitting there. Like, I don't want you to have to come out there and do any physical activity. Just hold the stick. Hold the stick either on the ground or horizontally.
And there's there you go. And this is and this is simulating you to stiff arm somebody? Is that what it is? Yes, that is a stiff arm. There's a stiff arm to the stick stiff arm to the stick helmet.
Look, I'm not a fan of it. I also don't like that.
Someone is making money. putting various football objects on the end of sticks. That's what that's what that's what that's there's an industry. There's a market. I'm telling you, anyone can make it.
Anyone can make it in this world. You just find a stick, put objects on them, see if someone pays for it, and you're a millionaire.
Okay.
Millionaire. Fantastic. Yeah, next we'll have we'll have JSN on a stick. Maybe he's the one paying for it. You know what I mean?
Maybe he's the one behind it. Escape putting humans on the ends of sticks, but you just find any inanimate object and put it on the end of a stick and see what happens. Understood. Very good. All right.
Well, keep an eye out for hard knocks to see that beautiful view. Outside of the through the quarterback window. There's a windowless room for the receivers, Cooper? Yeah, we're a windowless tank in there. It's just there's actually only The D Lon and the QBs are the only ones that get get a view actually.
Actually, the only people that get windows. Not only no one else gets windows, they get windows overlooking the little lake. What'd you get, Darnold, for his wedding? He's good. He's so good.
He's not that losing. He has a view. What else is he got a view? He's got a view. Fine.
Cooper Cup, a delight to chat with you. Thanks again for the time, man. We'll do this for you. Thank you, Richard. I do hope to see you shortly.
That sounds good. That is Cooper Cup, everybody, two-time Super Bowl champ, and the only man we've ever found who could stop Aaron Donald from doing anything he wants right here on the Rich Eisen Show.
Well, it's over. The dream is over. Aaron Donald's not coming back. Maybe should we should we I'm sorry to direct through the microphone. Maybe we should cut that up and play that exchange for less need.
Amen. Cooper Cup already found it. Cooper Cup said it's over, so you know. Yeah, sure. Why not?
Put the 99 jerseys away. Fun stuff right there. Fun stuff. In the NFC West, Les Needs making the media tour. He's stopping by us in about 17 minutes' time.
He's on coward right now. Remember we once upon a time Got Andy Reid right off of him, and Colin kept him too long. They started complaining. Come on, Colin. Let's go.
844-204-Rich is the number to dial right here on the Rich Eisen show. Less needs coming. We're taking your calls when we come back. Um The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast. Let's go to Jerry in Columbus, Ohio.
First in, first up. What's up, Jerry? Yeah. Yeah. Jerry, if you're watching on TV, you've got to turn the TV down.
You there, Jerry? You caught me by surprise. What's going on? Right. Change change of pace, pet.
Basketball. I'm the Brooklyn Bay. going all out for the next, but I don't think they're going to pull it. Why is that? Your answer for Remby and Historic perspective.
when people talk about the greatest ever, It's that they have seen Right? I mean, football no one mentions Jim Brown anymore. Best ball player I ever saw in my life. I played seventeen years. Basketball.
Are we seeing the next work chamber in? who is the greatest basketball player I ever saw. Going backwards. Back to his old days. He was unstoppable.
Wendy keeps playing on his offense, working on it, which he will. and bulks up over time is baby, I think damn. By the way, Jerry, that is a great word for it, which is damn. You know what I mean? Exactly.
Because you run out of words. I'm on the seven-second degree, so it's okay. That one's fine. Jerry, you also sound like a station in your life where you're out of F's to give anyway. But listen, bottom line is: you know, I never saw Wilt play like you did.
But having, you know conversations with people like yourself who did. and having, um, you know, Uh studied best I could. on this front. The fact that he and Bill Russell at the time, right? They were so great in their own ways.
And so great. physically and mentally But they were great as well because there was really no one else in the league that That was as big as they were and as athletic as they were at the time that they were playing. And the th th thing that might be the case about Wembunyama And thank you for the call, Jerry. He's um He might be the same way like Wilt in that there's no one else like him. In the league at a time where the league may be the most athletic.
It's ever been and gets more and more athletic. with freakish abilities every single year. Didn't you think when Giannis came in, it's like this is the guy that's breaking the mold, and there'll be nothing. We're not going to see anything like him. And then one bunyama's giving him his beard hold.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure this is the top. You're not going to see anyone bigger than you won't see somebody 7-6 one day before. Like I said last week when you were going to 7-13, which O'Shea pointed out was 80%. As Jerry said, damn. You know what I mean?
Like that pull-up three in game one to beat the Spurs, damn. The one that he throws down over Chet Holmbren in game seven. Damn. You know, the one that he hits from half court in.
So Give the Spurs you know that that game basically they wrapped it after that shot In halftime. Was that game four? Damn. Damn f You know what I mean? Like, that's it.
Every single time. And the Knicks, I guess. Who's their damn guy? Is it Brunson? Right?
Who would be their damned guy? Yeah, probably. I don't think they have that guy. Probably. No, they don't have that guy.
They're more of a complete team. I just think Wemby and Giannis aren't even in the same realm. Giannis was relatively unknown when he was drafted, middle of the first round. It took him four seasons before he averaged 20 points a game. We're now in, we've known who Wemby was since he was early teenager, first pick of the draft.
Now it's year three and he's in the finals, and they're the favorites. And the thing about him, too. that differentiates him is what's inside. Fire that burns. You know that Looking at SGA winning the MVP trophy that he wanted, and then winning that game one, and then eventually winning the series by also being part of.
the evisceration of Chet Holmgren, who apparently he's had an issue with since their teenage years, Is his, and I took that personally, last dance moment. I keep on mentioning Jordan for a reason. And I understand there's no trophies in the case yet. Mm. And I hope this isn't this moment where He's standing in the way of the Knicks, just like Jordan did all those years.
Um but He has this burning desire. combined with remarkable physical attributes. That is Jordan Estee. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Mm-hmm.
