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And now it's a Disney Plus show. That's how I guess he grows as a human, as well, height-wise, as well as cartoon-wise. He's joining us in hour number one of this program. And just to show you how we're completely all over the map, we welcome in hour number three, a little resident evil. Normally, that's Mike Del Tufo, but he's not here today.
Mila. Yojovich is going to be Jovovich is on this program in our number three.
So we've got that. And as F there's not enough bald guys on the program based off of yesterday's excitement, Roger Bennett's new book called We Are the World Cup. He's joining us in the middle of hour number two to talk. About all that. The delightfully naturalized citizen, Roger Bennett, one of the men in Blazers, will be on this program.
There's you at 844-204-Rich. Number to dial. Chris Brockman, not here again. Susie Schuster is. Hi, Suze.
I was afraid you were referring to me as the resident. No, why would I do that? Why would I do that?
Well, you know. You took your jacket off. I thought you were going to do the whole jacket. Sweater thing. You want me to throw it back on?
Well, we could do it. We could do that when we talk about SGA later on. Yes. You know what I mean? Like, that's how the way he shows up to it in front of a microphone.
I don't know if anybody saw that one last night. Oh, yeah. He's bringing the fits. He is. And the fits.
If you will. He's going to be. We'll talk about that later on. How are you, Jay? What's doing up?
I'm great. Thank you, Rich. How are you? I'm doing fine. Max Crosby's still a raider.
All right.
So every single day that that happens, every single moment of every day that happens, you're happy. I'm happy. Hello, TJ Jefferson. How are you? You know what's funny?
Yesterday, Jason got a comment that he was hurt by. And the comment said, if Jason wants to leave, if Max Crosby leaves, and we don't want him, we don't need fake fans. And Jay was like, I got my first hurtful piece of comment. I was like, Jay, that was about as nice as it's going to get. But they know my name.
And then they compare me to Del Tufo.
So that was. Oh, but was it a good comparison? No. How could jumping teams? Jumping teams, you know, the Yankee Dodger hat that is just positivity.
You can have teams. But, Rich, I was like, that's about as nice as it's going to get in the comment section, bro. Wait till they start attacking you. He can have two hats, but TJ does have new glasses, Rich. Ladies and gentlemen, I did not notice.
Breaking news. What's going on? They're very handsome. I know. But you don't need them to see, though, right?
I do. I mean, the ones yesterday I did, these ones are fronting. I'm stunting a little bit. Ladies in general, like it's a Jumbotron. Good to see you.
As I mentioned, 844-204, which is the number to dial here on today's program.
So, Listen. We we all know it. We could see it. We talk about it almost every year in the National Football League, every year in the NFL. about the weapons At Josh Allen's disposal.
And sometimes, I guess it doesn't matter because Allen is an MVP, or he'll run it, or James Cook will run it. or he'll find his tight ends, but at the end of the day, At the end of the day, when you take a look at what Joe Burrow has in Jamar Chase, you take a look at what Um Matthew Stafford has it at his disposal with Puka Nakua in a first ballot Hall of Famers, I think Devontae Adams is going to wind up being Jackson Smith and Jigba for Sam Donald, so on and so forth. You sit back and you wonder. What What happened if Josh Allen had somebody like that at his disposal. And, you know, Khalil Shakir's.
A good player. Very notice I didn't say solid. I could have. Oh, you hate that, though. I do.
I find that is a substandard. Superlative. Because you use words like superlative and you wonder why everyone is saying solid. Listen, that's why I'm just saying solid is uh solid is is not solid. Superfluous.
Josh Allen shouldn't have a leading receiver on his team with 719 yards receiving. No. Like that just shouldn't happen. And the year before that Shakir led the Bills in receiving with 821 yards. And that's what everyone was wondering what would happen when Stephon Diggs left.
Because back in the day, Stefan Diggs showed up as a 27-year-old. from Minnesota And had 1,500 yards receiving, just like that with Josh Allen. And they seem to be BFFs until they weren't, and as we all know. He winds up going to Houston, he winds up going to New England, now he's going to wind up to parts unknown. We'll talk about that in a second.
So we had Brandon Bean. Um In our NFL network booth while the wide receivers are working out. And I just walk through the front door with them. I'm like, So, are one of these kids going to basically be a Buffalo Bill? And he laughs, ha ha, like, who knows?
You can't say. He gave some sort of a word-salad answer that every general manager would give. I'm not criticizing him when a direct question is asked by somebody like that on live television. And that was a few minutes before Carnell Tate ran his 45440 and he. said he's slow, I I I wouldn't pick him that high.
You know, meaning, hey, everybody, let somehow Carnell Tate drop to us the 26th overall pick.
Well Uh Brandon Bean had his eye on somebody. Not at the combine. He might still have had his eye at somebody at the combine because the Bills do have 26th overall pick. They have a lot of draft choices to get weapons where Josh Allen doesn't have to just be first-rounders. Moments ago, shortly before he went on the air, D.J.
Moore has been acquired by the. By the Buffalo Bills. Wow. Off goes DJ Moore.
Now, we kind of got a sense of it because I don't follow him on his Instagram account, but it popped up. In an algorithm, Um I believe on threads. That He had a photograph of him looking out his front door with what appeared to be. A a child a kid Um and they were looking out of the front door basically saying Looks like we're out of here. was the general gist of his post.
And so he caught wind of that. He is in fact out of Chicago and going to Buffalo and He is going to be Right off the bat, Buffalo's number one wide receiver, something that he was. Becoming In Carolina wound up being part of the trade that went With A bunch of pics. To Chicago, that wound up with Caleb Williams being drafted because DJ Moore was one of the players sent by Carolina so they could get the first overall pick to draft. Bryce Young.
And DJ Moore. comes into Buffalo Just like Stephon Diggs did a few years ago with the You're the Guy. You are the guy who can be the number one wide receiver. You are the new BFF. Of Josh Allen.
He's two years older. Than Stephon Diggs was. When Diggs arrived in Buffalo, he does have twice as many thousand-yard seasons. that Diggs had. coming into Buffalo.
as he is The interesting thing is they're both. Maryland Terrapins Just going through What could be uh some DNA here? Um But Good on the bills. I mean, it's apparently a mid-level draft choice. Could be, what, fourth that turns into a three.
Five that turns into a four. I don't know what it's going to be. But If you're sitting there Third round, fourth round, fifth round, you're the Buffalo Bills and you're looking at uh the wide receivers still available in the draft. You're hoping. to get the next DJ Moore.
And it took DJ Moore a couple of years to turn in. To DJ Mort. You might as well get the genuine article. Which the Buffalo Bills did. And congratulations to them for doing it.
And as for the Bears, I guess it's like Let's just um Let's just figure out what to do with our young'uns. Our Iceman and Caleb Williams, let's get them. Another guy maybe in this year's draft? Also, there's the iceberg and the tip, like I always say, that you never know what's going on. Just don't know if DJ Moore, on occasion, there always used to be something.
That felt like a gear grind.
something that felt like was off? Um And On that last interception. Of The playoffs for Caleb Williams. Or the last interception of that. Game in the playoffs that ended essentially their hopes.
That led to the Rams winning. and moving on to Seattle as opposed to Chicago. He ran a route that didn't look all that crisp, and Chris Collinsworth called him out on the spot. Did?
So you put it all together and DJ Moore is now Buffalo Bill. And I kind of dig it. It's better than what they currently have for a number one wide receiver. Keon Coleman, as we all know, didn't really prove Very quickly.
So not a bad move right there.
Meanwhile, Suez Your Patriots told Stephon Diggs they're done. Yep. And so Maybe the Bills would take him back. You never know, right? Doubt it.
I don't think so, and I think he's got a lot on his plate right now as well. Right. But Mike Rabolden said this is where we get, and he said that last week at the combine. This is where we're going to have to go to find our future is in the draft picks. But A.J.
Brown, do we think that that's going to happen?
Well, I mean, the person who normally occupies that seat on a daily basis would love for that to happen. I think that sounds like there's plenty of good books to read in New England on the sidelines. We don't need to have somebody for this young quarterback to throw to, Rich.
Well, they've got the young'uns that are there as well. Word on the streets is that the. The Patriots might have their eye on Alec Pierce. who is the deep threat for the Indianapolis Colts, who really hasn't proven out That he's a number one wide receiver, yet not happy with that one, really. He wasn't happy hearing that that might be the answer.
But he's also coming into his own, and maybe just maybe he is the guy that you can hook up with Drake May. and overpay and look like a genius by the end of the day. Which I think just rhymed. I said May, Pay, and Day. I know.
Um Yeah. But I I think you put it. properly, Suze, is that um He's got a lot on his plate. And the Patriots might not have wanted pl much of that plate. there any more.
And um and May's gonna have to get all groaned up. Then figure out Who else to throw to? But sh but there were other guys. I mean, they had booty, they had they had uh Um Kyle Williams, they They had other guys. Pop Douglas, these were all guys coming to the fore and.
You draft another one, you could free agent another one. If you do want to shoot the moon and figure out what goes on with A.J. Brown, you try and. affect that Um or you free agent and go into Alec Pierce's mode. And it was a lot of money.
I mean, you're going from 10 and a half to 26 and a half.
So maybe it's a money thing as well. Yes, indeed. But the Patriots are moving on. From Stephon Diggs. You know, the Pats, though, outside of the Randy Moss year, they've never really been a team, and Susie, you'll know this better than me.
need that that big splash number one. They've always seemed to get by with guys, you know, wide receiver twos, you know Hogan, Welker, Edelman. Even back to your, you know, the early championship days. What the on branches and what do those three guys and Alec Pierce have in common? They're all probably under s s six feet, I think.
No, that would probably be it. You know. Um They all catch passes. That's it, Rich. That's that part.
Yeah. Yeah. But see, I'm trying to hit another. They're all from the East Coast. They're all very comfortable in New England.
They are in New England. Boston area, TJ. I'm catching on. It just finally splashed on you over there.
Okay.
So 844-204-Rich, phone lines are already lit. Appreciate seeing on all of that. That phone lines are lit. Let's bring Martellis Bennett out here, former patriot, former player in the National Football League. He's now got a show coming up on Disney Plus called Hey AJ, based on a Martellis Martellis's children's book series.
It's on Disney Plus, available now, and Disney Jr., which is always. Used to be on in our house quite a bit, Suze.
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Well, pickups, the, you know, making helping with lunch and all those things. And I've been fortunate enough to be able to have that experience. With my family in the household. And when I was making a show, really what I realized as a father is the magic and the mundane things around the house, like how imaginative and participating in my child's imagination.
So when I was creating a show, I really wanted to bring that to life: the dad experience of being at home with the kid and playing all the time.
So it's a bit different from my wife, because I'm all about shenanigans. You know, my wife probably feels like she have two kids in the house sometimes, because we both get into the shenanigans. Should I ask Susie or this the same way as well? That we're. You feel like you have four children in the house?
Yeah, absolutely. Plus two dogs. There you go. I mean, are you one of the dogs? I am not.
I am not. But Rich always says, I appreciate this. Rich always says that if there's a life raft involved, he's worried that he might come after eight legs. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like if there's a pecking order in the house, child, child, child, dog, dog me. That's basically the that's okay. That's all right. I understand the way this works. But somebody has to push the raft, so that's where you at.
That's right. And they're really beautiful dogs. Yeah. He's a beautiful man.
Somebody. Oh, you missed yesterday's show, didn't you? Oh, yeah. It's okay. That's all right.
But congratulations again on Hey AJ, which is available now on Disney Plus and Disney Jr.
So, and again, it. I've been around the NFL for 23 years. It is not easy to figure out what you're going to do when you're done playing. You know, you have to have a plan. You've got to think about it before you're done playing.
And that's what you did with this, right? Yeah, you have to build a bridge before you cross the bridge. You think about guys right now. You know, at the combine, right? They think that their life is going to be this thing, this playing this sport, but it could end at any time.
You really don't have any control over a lot of things that could happen to you on the field, getting hurt.
So you have to start thinking about who you are as a full human being, not just as an athlete. I always knew that I was a creative who plays sports, so I'm not an athlete who's creative, right? Like no one I had to learn how to catch the ball, learn how to, no one ever taught me how to create anything.
So I knew that I wanted to do creative things when I retired.
So like when I was playing, I would intern a job shadow at Nickelodeon. I'll be at DreamWorks. I would also, yeah, so I did a lot of work in Hollywood. I would come here and I mean LA, I would come here and train and knock on and call as many people as I can. I would be on a Disney campus.
When I retired, I opened my studio in Burbank right down the street between Disney television and Nickelodeon.
So I used to ride my bike to all these different places, taking all these meetings.
So my dream was, you know, when I had my daughter, I started thinking about my own dreams in the world and what I wanted to. Be when I would grow up because what she would want to be, and you're going to sit right there, and I tell my daughter, like, yo, you could be anything that you want to be, you could do everything that you want to do, but then I had not set out to do everything that I want to do.
So, I think a great father is a great example, right, of following your dreams and chasing your dreams. You may not achieve those dreams, but the fact that you chase your dreams gives others permission to chase their dreams. And my biggest goal is to give my daughter permission. To chase whatever her dreams may be.
So I had to go out and chase my own. That's awesome, man. That is correct, TJ. Great way to put it.
So, um, What was your favorite gig in between NFL seasons that you? That you did, that really who'd you meet, you had a good story based on that? Yeah, yeah, I've done a lot of stuff. Um, there was this guy named Keith Dawkins. I met him at Nickelodeon Sports.
He's one who slimes people? Nah, he was in charge of doing like Nick's sports when they was trying to bring all the sports in. Also in in charge of um When they were trying to bring back Nick Tunes like Rugrats, the late night television thing they were trying to do. But I met him, I asked him if I could job shadow him. And he was like, Yeah, you could job shadow me.
So I followed him for like four or five days and through LA, going to all these different meetings and things with him. And I was learning a lot, but I was sitting in this meeting, and in this meeting was like the greats, like the Renaissance Dippy guys, the guys who did Ah, Real Monsters, all these things. And they're talking about these shows and they're talking about how they could bring about new ideas to these things. But I realized that they ain't owned their property, so they wasn't very happy about it coming. Coming out again because they wasn't going to get any money.
They weren't going to get any of the money. Yeah, you know, so it's like, you know. Do you own, hey, AJ? I still own rights to my books and my apps. Yeah, you do.
So, and then, but with AJ, I got it to a point where I couldn't afford to make it what I wanted to be. Like, I needed somebody else. I built something that was out of my league.
So I needed to find the right partner, and Disney was the first yes. Everybody else told me no. Even when I published the books, nobody wanted to publish the books.
So I had to start my own publishing company to put my own books out in the world and sell my books.
So no one saw the potential in the book. No one saw the potential in the apps. No one saw the potential when I did animation for it myself. And you go all these, you take all these meetings and knock on all these doors, and you get in these rooms, and it's no, no, no, no, no, no. But I was built for no because of football, right?
I learned how to fail or not, like, you know, one bad block doesn't mean that you had a bad game, right? You get back up and you make the next play, you keep going.
So that's kind of what I did. And Disney was my first yes. It was the first people that was like, oh, we love this. The meeting was, it was the shortest meeting, too. It's like as soon as I walked in, it was like, yes.
And I was like, oh, okay, cool. Did you think you were being punked? For a second, I was like, I didn't really get into my, you know, I got to do the Marty thing. You know, I get in there. I got to, you know, yeah, but I didn't get to do the Marty thing.
And it was just like, we love it. It sounds great. Like, let's do the work. And so they've been great partners to me.
So, I mean, you're at Disney now.
So look, we got the, we're just two Disney Plus guys chopping. From the NFL to Disney. And we're in the same boat. You know what I'm saying? We're on the same wrath.
Now we can leave the family behind. Yes. And many times Belichick's told me no. Oh, yeah, Belichick. Belichick was the person I learned the most business from.
How so? The first one you went to the Patriots, it was the first one that felt like a job. Like they gave you, you had to sign into the employee. the employee thing on it. I have never no business experience being an employee, but you have to sign in with the rest of the employees.
So they let you know that you're there as an employee the moment you get there. Of the New England Patriots. Of the New England Patriots. But my favorite thing about Bill Belichick was that he treated everybody the same. We were, I tell you a football story.
Please, like, this is how I knew Bill Belichick was a. I liked him as a coach. Because usually, when you have a quarterback, no one says anything to the quarterback. The quarterback gets away with all kinds of stuff. And no one calls him out.
You know, they whisper. I've seen, I play with a lot of quarterbacks. You know, I played with Aaron Rodgers, Tom, Tom Brady. Um Eli Manning, Tony Romo. My favorite was John Kittner, and my second favorite is Tom Brady, though.
But, um, So we go out to practice during install, during training camp, and we're disastrous. Like we suck. Like Tom's missing passes. Everybody's having an off day. It's really, really bad.
Like it's almost embarrassing. But I'm used to being bad because I played on a lot of bad teams.
So it was just like, ah, we'll get it next time. But so we get into the meeting. I'm like, man, Tom did not have a great day today. But as soon as we get in the meeting, Bill Belashe, like, what is this? We have an all-world quarterback who can't hit the targets, can't throw the ball.
You're Mr. Quarterback this. Julian Elliman, how long have you been short? All his career. Why are we throwing the ball seven feet tall to a three-foot guy?
You know, that kind of thing in the middle of the meeting. And, like, I'm sitting here, I'm laughing. I thought Bill Belichick was funny, like, in a Larry David way. And, um, so I'm sitting there, and um, Debbie McCordy always like, don't laugh, don't laugh. I'm like, it's funny, though.
Like, he says some funny stuff all the time. Like, Julian has been short his whole career. Like, this is a great thing. He actually said another, he had another metaphor analogy that he used to talk about his height that I don't think is safe for Disney Plus. But, so, but what happened after that?
So, I come out of there. It's like, oh, we got chewed out, but I'm used to getting chewed out. You know, I played for the Bears. Just letting you know, I play for the Bears, you know, so there's a whole lot that came along with that. And Kay Cutler is your quarterback.
Yeah. As I get older, I appreciate Jay Cutler a little bit more, though.
So then we go into, I walk into the, I'm getting ready to get my lift in, and I hear, doom. Doom! Doom, like Airbus. When the coach is throwing the ball at the kid or whatever, I'm like, dang, did is Bill Bella check on some Airbus stuff too?
So then I come in and it's Tom. Tom is throwing the ball against the wall, just dropping back. Whoops. Target practice. He walks out, he brushes past me.
I'm kind of, you know, it's like, it's time. I'll let him rub his shoulder against mine, but usually I would have to check him on such a thing like that. But today I'm going to let you slide.
So, but the next morning I'll come in, I'm eating my pancakes. They had good pancakes at New England. But New York Giants had the best food out of every single team I ever played on. Their cafeteria was lit. And.
I used to go there on off days just to eat. Never did such a thing on another organization ever. Just suffer the Giants. Um, but um so the next morning come in, Tom comes in and he goes to each person individually, like, Hey, stretch, do whatever you gotta do, we gonna kick some But today.
So he's just like, he came in, eyebrows already scolded. Like, I'm like, you know, I ain't know if it was Botox, though. It could have easily been Botox, you know, but I think it was just his point of view or whatever.
So anyway, we go out there and he's getting everybody ready. We go outside and we go 35 or 35. At practice. Uh-huh. Wow.
Mission accomplished. Mission. Bill Belichick is over there smiling, and we're all cussing Bill out, you know, like, now what? Because, you know, whatever. And he's just swinging his whistle.
Swinging his whistle. Yeah. Just swinging his whistle, kind of like got this mischievous, grinchy grin on his face. You know, that he's over there like he's some mastermind, like the super villain in. And um Boston Powers?
Nah, and Inspector Gadget. We're both coming from two different pop culture ends right there.
So, but you know, but it showed a lot about Tom. Like, Tom was a guy that. Like he, what I thought made Tom really great was that he changed his game for his teammates. While other quarterbacks expect that you, he's like, I'm good enough to do whatever I need to do in order to make you better. And I think that his word pliability, but in his personality as well, not just in his business plan at TP12 or whatever it's called, but in real life, he has a very pliable personality to play with.
So I like Tom a lot. Great story, man. I mean, I don't know, Billy. I know. Like, Suze, you're a good one.
There is so much to unpack soliloquy. Number one, you should be a comedian. Number two, you should maybe start at the comedy store. Number three, we got a food review. That's true.
Slight dig at Jay Cutler. I'm here for all of it. He's the one who dig at Jay Cutler. No, he was very much aware of it. There was a wink and a nod, Richard.
He did listen to me. No, the thing that I also picked up from it is that Belichick treats everybody the same, right? Even a janitor. Meaning what? Like the the pressure.
One day we had a bad practice, and one day we did something to practice, and he made us run. But then he made the coaches run too. The coaches was running sprint gassers, what else? And he just like, everybody's running. Because he was like, y'all responsible for the players.
If this is, if they're doing a bad day, having a bad day, it's because of what you're doing too. We're all interconnected. Like, you know, so I thought he was, he was one of my favorite coaches. The Patriots is actually my favorite place to play. Did he?
Well, I mean, you won a Super Bowl there, did you not? Or no, you didn't? I did. I did. I was a Soul Champion.
So, so, I mean, minus the cafeteria. The, the, uh, yeah.
So he made the janitors run that day too? No, the janitors didn't run. Oh, okay. I just was wondering. They were inside.
Okay.
Yeah. So just as an aside about how Bill always treats everybody the same. Is he told a story For the NFL 100 show that I was so honored to anchor on NFL Network a couple of years ago, where he was the analyst. He did television. He was phenomenal.
Oh, yeah, I remember him doing that. See, he was great at it. His side quests got a little way side, but he got some good side quests. He did.
So he at one point told a story with Lawrence Taylor sitting there about how LT was always late for meetings. And Bill began to get a little upset about it.
So he turned to Parcells, who was the head coach, and said to Parcells, What do I do about it? And Parcells said, What are you starting the meeting for without him? Because Bill was ready to treat everybody the same and didn't compute To just, well, LT is on a different level, and but which Tom. Was on a different level in many different ways, obviously, right? But he's just ripping him a new one over a bad practice session.
It's just. everything you need to know. And that Tom responded. Right, that's the thing, and then the team responded one day later, you know. If you don't, if a lot of times, like what happened with teams are coaches try to pick a leader.
Right. They think this is the quarterback is always the leader, or this person is the leader, or whatever. But leaders can't be hand-picked. They have to emerge from the crop of men. And oftentimes, the person that the coach thinks is the leader or the organization wants to brand as the leader is not who the players know as the leader in the locker room or the person that is built to lead.
So sometimes you mess somebody up because you want them to lead, but that's not the position or their disposition as a human being, which I realized as I got older. That's what happened a little bit with Jay Cutler. Like, he was just like, I just want to play football. I'm not a rah-rah guy. I'm not trying to do this.
Just let, you know, let somebody pick, let somebody else do the job. Stop picking me. I'm not a pick-me, right? Like, I just want to go play football. And sometimes it's better if you just let the quarterback be who they are versus thinking they're the franchise, they're the face of the franchise, so they have to be the leader as well.
And, you know, there's a great book called Leaders Eat Last. Really good book. And the idea of it talks about the wolf pack. And when the wolfs are traveling across. you know, the terrain, the treacherous terrain, just to do a little alliteration in that, but like uh the treacherous terrain, like you know, you think about the alpha male in this wolf pack, they don't travel at the front of the pack.
They travel with the back because the weakest wolf is who you first likely attack, the wolf in the back. Nobody attacks the wolf in the front. But the leader knows that.
So he has to let someone, he has to become a follower. and has to have somebody else who can lead.
So a lot of times when we like when we like right now with kids, like what we're not doing with kids as we're developing them, we're not developing character. Like we're developing athletes and players with no character. Which is detrimental to the team in the future because it becomes an individualized thing instead of realizing you're a small micro, micro. Who You just micro in the grand scheme of the world, like us as people. We start thinking about the world, like we're so tiny.
There's trees that have been around for hundreds of years. Like, there's not that many people that, I mean, there is this one island in Japan that everybody else passed 100. I mean, I need to move there, but. You know, as a black man, you know, I was happy to make it past 21, but you know, it's a whole nother story. But, like, you know, you think about how small you are in the grand scheme of all things.
But we all want to be so big and we want to be seen with we want to be larger than life. We want 1 million followers. We want 10 million followers. Jesus didn't even have that many followers. Yeah.
He had to go find fishermen. Hey man, I can make you a fisher of men. He had to get a bunch of people. Hey, you building like all his people just like, you know, he found them along the way. He had a couple followers, you know, but he had a big message.
And sometimes like you it sort of takes a small group of people to change the world. But we got to realize How small we are. You're I I love when you you you get to come back once every, you know.
Now and then as opposed to once every eight years or whatever here on the show. I just love chopping things up with you. Speaking of being big and small, TJ, you found the photograph of the guys.
Okay.
The photograph of the last time you were here. Scott Hamilton was a a fellow guest. I think we have that. There it is. We had the two of you pose next to each other.
I remember that photo, too. It's like the twins. We were trying to recreate the twins. Oh, that's true. That's an anger.
That's a good one. I like it. You know what movie I want to remake though? What's that? I wanna remake Kazam.
And be like Shaq's son, Shazam.
Okay.
Yeah, and kind of go in there and be a genie. I think it would be a really cool thing for me to grant wishes. I think this is next on Disney Plus. Yeah. We can try and make this happen.
Let's do it. You should be in the show, too. I would be. Let's be producer, producing partners. Look at that.
Done deal. All right.
You want to play. Residual rich. I would love to. Let's do this. What we do is I open a check on the air, and everybody guesses like price is right rules closest without going over what it is.
Okay.
Okay, here we go. Hit it. Hit it, please. Pay that man his money.
Okay, here we go. I've got four envelopes. Choose which one. One, two, three, or four. Uh.
Three. Three, okay. You got the price is right music for me, please, Jay Felling. Here we go. No, the price is right music.
My goodness gracious. Give me the price is right music. Oh, this is perfect. I was in a movie called Leatherheads. Do you remember this movie?
George, old football man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
I was in a movie called Leatherheads. I did voiceover for it.
Okay.
And then I think they decided that my voice was too contemporary. I never even made the movie, but I'm still getting residual checks. Oh, wow. That's the best part. No show jobs are great.
Me and Kawhi Leonard. It's great. What? Those are very well done. Here we go.
Thank you.
Well, you're wearing a Raptor's hat here, so I had to mix in the little NBA.
Well, I just like the shape of this hat. I'm not, I'm not a sports fan at all. All right, so here we go. Suze, do you want to guess your first up? The closest without going over of how much this check is from Leatherheads.
First of all, do I get half? You always do, Suze. Even with us still having our relationship. You know, some people in this town have to get half by leaving each other. $8.
Okay, $8. Jay Felly, what do you got? I'm going to go $150. $1.50. TJ Jefferson, what do you have over there?
I'm going to go 75 cents. 75 cents. And this is a it doesn't also rem has to do with how often a movie is watched. Exactly.
So it hasn't been you have to say George Clooney Leatherhead. It's not that many people watching that. I'm going to go without a $6.28. Oh, $6.28. She gets special dispensations because she can take it all.
Also, so competitive.
Now I don't want to lose that.
Okay, $3.50.
Okay, it didn't matter either. The actual retail check is. $1.45. Oh. There it is, right there.
$1.45. That's not working. That is not. That was close. $0.75 teacher.
Go to Hollywood. Be in showbiz, they tell you. Go to Hollywood. You're going to do great. You know what I'm saying?
It's like, oh, you're going to make money like Brad Pitt. No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not. Do not do it.
Do not do it. Get a desk job. You know, work for yourself, which is not a great idea either. Entrepreneurship is one of the worst things you could possibly do to yourself and your family. But look at you now, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to have hair. Another bald guy program. I used to have hair. Oh, you look fantastic.
Well, thank you. My black's not cracking anytime. Is that going to be another episode of Hey AJ? Oh, definitely. I like to put black dad jokes in the show for the fast day.
The show's black as. But on the animated version.
So, yeah, yeah, it's cool, you know.
So that's the cool thing about it. Like, sometimes we'd be talking on the show and I'd be like, Yeah, when I get the script, sometimes, like, a black father wouldn't say that. You know what I'm saying? So I had to change the stuff when I started doing the Samuel Jackson thing. You know, Samuel Jackson is.
Is my favorite actor.
Okay.
And he's who I wanted to play my dad on the show. First, so anytime I write a movie script or anything, I always have a voice or a place for Samuel Jackson. You've left a seat every life. You've got to make this happen. Yeah, man.
You know, old white women always tell me I look like him, but then I kind of take that with a grain of salt. You look like an old, you know, young Samuel Jackson. I was like, I don't know if that's racist or a compliment, you know.
So, but it could be both. It could be both. It could be both. Could be both. Back in the day when our kids were really young and that you.
There was that book Go the F to Sleep. Yeah, he read it. Yeah. He read it. We got that book on tape just to hear what it sounded like.
He said so fun. I saw him on Broadway. What a brilliant idea that was to have him do that. I saw him on Broadway too and in the piano. the piano play.
And it was like amazing to see him on stage.
So I love Samuel Jackson. He's my favorite actor. What what what's not to like? He's amazing. Great to see you here.
Let's do this more often. I'm down. Certainly since you're you're you're just over the Just over the hill twice over, but I'm in Houston. You're in Houston now? I am back home in the south.
Oh, okay. So you're just here just doing hanging out? Just doing that.
Well, today we're doing an NFL Career Day at Disney.
So players who want to do animation or get into animation, they're going on a tour through Disney television and we're showing them all the ropes of how we create shows, how things are made.
So it's like 30 guys coming through. Who else? Former and previous and current players. Um I mean, I don't really follow football as much as I used to, so I don't know some of the guys that's on the list. But it's like 30 people coming in, so it's an exciting day.
I saw your brother at the Super Bowl. He came on NFL Network crowing about the Seahawks before they went actually and did what he said they were going to do. Oh, man, what a treacherous game for Patriots fans, right? Like, you can't complete a pass, can't get anything done. Man, that left tackle, he's just getting destroyed.
Like, that's a you either get better or you don't know, you come back for that's one of those things, you know, like it could haunt you to greatness, right, or it could haunt you into despair. Wow. It was a long afternoon. Yeah, we were there. Our 15-year-old's a die-hard Patriot fan.
Oh, wow. Yeah. He was bummed. But it was nice to see him back in the game, though. You know, like those two.
You know, sorry to keep this going, but I don't get to get on TV that often, so I'm going to make the most of my time. But NFL is interesting because it's always the same teams who have a chance, right? Like that cycle of greatness is coming through because it comes from the top down. The organizations are ran from the top.
So some organizations know how to win, and some organizations know how to lose. Like the leadership look, they got losers and leadership or ownership.
Well, you could be a loser and be a billionaire. I mean, most billionaires do end up being losers. You mean personally, is what you're saying. Yes. Emotionally.
Yeah, just structurally. I hear you. The posture. I'd love to give that a try and see if I can break it. Me too.
I would definitely. I would do good. Get our idea together. You said. You said you don't get on TV too often.
You stick around for one more segment? I would love to. We do that? I don't know if we can. Does he got to get to does he somebody has to know about does he have to get to Burbank?
The extra 50. We good? We're good. That's a thumbs up, man. Yeah.
Let's hang out a little while. Let's do it, man. Let's finish the hour with me. Yeah, we can talk about what all sorts. It's your show.
It's the Marty Rich show today. I feel like we should switch seats for a quick. We'll be right back with more Marty Saurus Rex right here. I love Chris Long, too. Good stuff.
I love his whole family. You too. Yeah. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast. Yeah.
That's a that's a cool. When my sports center spotted Stewart's laughing, I'm like, you're the one who's washing your hands for 30 seconds like you're some neat freak. You know? Yeah. Can we I just want to take a second and and reflect on when you and Stuart Scott were doing television and how beautiful like Those moments were, and the way that the game was talked about, and the patience that you had, and the pacing, and the grace that was given to athletes at that period of time.
Like, as we move forward, everything so much, it's so much faster, you know, and it's not so much as the depth of the language and the love and the care for the game and the athletes. It was a really beautiful time to be a fan of the game. That's so nice of you to say that. Yeah. Yeah, I miss Stu.
He's gone 11 years now. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. Susie knew Stewart because Susie and I met in the ESPN newsroom in 1997. Y'all was fraternizing in the workplace?
Richard Bryan. Susie wasn't having it, Martin. Everybody thinks the Michigan man who won the Heisman in 1997 was Charles Woodson, but instead it was me. I see. I see what you did there.
Yeah. I was attempting. Yeah. She wasn't buying it unsuccessfully. You know.
Part of the when you have see like When you have charm, it usually doesn't land in the beginning. Like, you gotta keep showing up, and you keep showing up. And you keep showing up. You know what I'm saying? Like, they get like, oh, this guy's actually kind of nice.
He's a good person. And then, after you keep showing up, they get used to having your presence around and they realize how you make them feel when you're in a room with them. And then you disappear. And then they'd be like, Dang, where is he at? Then they'd be like, Oh, I really like that guy.
Is that accurate? No, not really. I remember I'm not sure. Could you tell me what happened? Not not disappear, but like take a day off of being charming.
I don't actually think you'd take many days up of being charming. He's just really nice and he's a really good listener. And that's what turned her off. Three months. For the first three years.
You're not wrong, TJ.
So, this is not why I asked this man to stick around for how long have y'all been married? 23 years. Oh, well, it'll be 15 years for me this year. Oh, congratulations. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just love what a good dad you are. I love your passion for your child. And I just want to say thank you on behalf of all of us out here who have girls. It just means so much to me that you are such a role model to her. And if all dads can listen to this show right now and do the same for their girls, we'll grow up a whole generation of smart, strong girls who feel good about themselves.
It's all about that relationship with your girls and the dad. I 100% agree. I think that, you know, when. Like, as a man, there's a lot of things you're not privy to until you get married about women's rights or women's movements or things that's happening. And then, when you become a father, it's like, wow, like, I got to change the world because she has to grow up in this environment.
Like, what is that environment going to be like for her 10 years from now? When we think about legacy, we have to think about place and how our daughters can, you know, enter these places and be fully themselves. And, you know, and raising a young black girl, I have to teach her like all these different lessons along the way. But my biggest thing as a dad is like, Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to The Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app, The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
