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Rules at cokeurl.com/slash soccer rules. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another Wednesday episode of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. I am the heel that you love to hate, O'Shea Jackson Jr., aka Petty Guerrero. Hey, yo, it's me, it's me, it's the T-Dou O of the J-I-G-G. TJ Gert, TJ Jefferson.

What's up, man? I just want to start because we had an episode that we gave. You know, CM Paul, our boy. Maybe. We didn't get to have an opening with it.

So let me just start this by saying. Happy Black History Month, brother. Say it again. Happy Black History Month to everyone. Come on, come on.

Based upon some of the answers that Charles Montgomery Punk gave us last week, it was a great episode. Shout out to him. Yeah, shout out to Prince. He kicking it with us, you know. But all his answers led me to believe that he wants his cookout invite.

And damn it, he got it. Yeah. Whatever you need. Whatever CM Punk needs. No, he got that cook.

He earned that with some of his answers last week. But man, that was a dope. I mean, look, you and him were friends first, you know, so it's, you know, you've already had your relationship, but it's still kind of just weird to me. I look across and CM Punk is just like knows my name and says, what's up? And it's just like.

At one point, you know, just sitting there and I'm like, damn, this is look at life. This is punk, man. And then picking up that world belt at the end when we took some pictures, there's a lot of weight on that. I can understand now why cats get knocked out, getting hit with that joint because that belt was. Yeah.

If you ain't holding it back just enough, you know, you're getting clips with that. Woo-hoo. Yeah. Exactly. But uh yeah, dude, it uh Some great things are happening for your boys at the No Contest Wrestling Podcast.

We're moving on up in the world. Um, we had our boy CM Punk, who you guys remember, our premiere episode. Uh, he has some hardware. We at ESPN now, you know, we done came up. And today, we will have another recurring guest because TJ, we are getting joined by the ruler.

Oba Femi will be coming on to the No Contest Wrestling Podcast for the record-breaking third time. You see it third time? Third time. Yeah, you know, this is all of our boys. Yeah, man.

And, you know, what's dope about it is, you know, we definitely hopped on the Oba bandwagon early on, you know, because how could you not? Yeah. You only need to see him once or twice to go, oh, okay. You know, but you know, like, you know, from us saying, you know, he should be the one to. Perhaps.

And seeing his career, there was a little bit of a lot of pushback on their Instagram page. He was in there. He was in the comments. If I'm not mistaken, we got, of course, the black guy would pick a black guy.

Well, how about that? Happy February. You're right. Because you can be black, white, Chinese, Spanish, Indian, Haitian. It don't matter.

All you got to do is have two pairs of eyes, and you mightn't even need those because I think Stevie Wonder could take a look and tell you that Oba Femi is the truth. He's for real. And if you're running a wrestling, a billion-dollar wrestling company, you might want to have him as one of the future stars because. He's money. Yeah, if you got it, you got it.

The boy got it. All right. And he got his own money. Yeah. You see the black and green when he comes out.

And by the way, you see. I was about to see. You see your boy with the boy? That wasn't by coincidence. You see your boy?

A couple chains late today, though, babe. Yeah, yeah. You know, because I'm trying to. I'm trying to be a little bit more humble to you. You?

Yeah. Because you know, I've been. I'm from Royal You Lucky It's February. I almost called you a slur. I'm boy, I swear, I swear from God.

Man, God is. And two white men. On February 12th. Yeah, hey, you made me say it.

So. But uh yeah, you know. I we we've just had such And and they'll see what I'm talking about very soon. Oh, it's coming. We've just had such a Such a rocket on our back.

To success, then I gotta remind myself, you know, be chill. We're still out here grinding. Yeah, man. Still out here grinding. It's a blessing for sure to be able, when I look back, you know, because I think we, you and I, we wanted things to happen fast, but good things don't always happen fast.

It takes time to, like, you know, like a Chia Pet grows in two days. I've said that before, you know, things got to marinate sometimes, but. In all honesty, things have been marinating and growing a lot quicker than most in our position. And it's just. You know, like you said, uh, good stuff's coming and it's all because everyone out there who's watching and enjoying what we're doing, man.

And, um, you know, to be walking down the streets and and, you know, and have people. We were in San Francisco last week and You know, walking back to the hotel and have people stop, and you know, you know, you getting stopped a lot just from the movies, yeah, but then also because of this whole wrestling game, you know what I mean? It's just kind of daunting a little bit for me because I'm sure you're used to it, right? Because people you've been in the spotlight, so you know, I've been with you lately enough to know that you constantly have people coming up and just wanting to say what up, shake your hand, shake my hand, and make it a firm shake, say what's up, Shay, and then break. You know, but for me, I'm always the cat who's kind of playing the background role, you know, especially with the friends I have.

So it's kind of new for me to have people stop me and go, I love what you do, or I appreciate what you do. It's kind of weird, man. I gotta be honest, but I truly do appreciate it. I will say it's been different. this go around because It's not I don't know how to to fully describe it other than like Is because of something that we built.

It's a different feeling because just last night, I went to a party for the Hollywood Reporter. You understand? And somebody asked me on the red carpet in an interview for The Hollywood Reporter. They said, What has been the most surprising thing that has happened to you. on your career so far.

And of course, they're expecting me to speak about film. My first thought was, you know, Star Wars, like Star Wars, that's still, I'm still shocked. But I took a moment to really think about it, and it's no contest. Like no contest wrestling. The growth that we've had, the support that we've had from you guys, it has been the best surprise that I could have gotten.

And, you know, we know how passionate we are about the business, but you still don't know. Like at the end of the day, we never wrestled before. And people are still waiting to see what we got to say about things. And that's nice. At the end of the day, I told you whenever I'm taking pictures with people.

Um, they could not want to take a picture with my ass. That's when you know you, yeah. You know, so you have to have that thought and. We got some news. We got some.

Some guests coming on that we're very excited about. Also, going to be. Joining our friends again to promote Vidga Games. Yeah, man. It's Vidja Games again.

W-W-I-I-E-2-22. And so it's a beautiful feeling. And also The icing on that cake of the beautiful feeling is that my your tribal chief is back. And not only is he back, But he's back in the main event of WrestleMania. Because Roman reigns.

won the Royal Rumble on you jive turkeys.

Well, you thought it was over. You thought it was over. That's why we don't pay you to think. The return was so sweet. They are so angry online.

I mean, they can't. I love that. They can't be that angry. What are you angry at? Man.

What you mad at?

Well, nothing you can do about it, bro. You know what I'm saying? The show before the Rumble, we were given, like, we could win, and we ended by: look, it's probably going to be Roman anyway. Yeah, TJ said, he was like, oh, TJ put that figure up. It's like, oh, no, I'm not mad if it's wrong.

It seems like. First of all, do we have powers? Because every time we mention something slightly, it tends to go that way. People think we got insider info and we don't. Yeah, no, we just two dudes on the couch.

We just love wrestling and we love fantasy book, and then we got great imaginations, I guess. Yeah, but let me tell you, when. When Ober came out first, I was like, damn it. First. This is not looking good for me.

I had the other because I, like I said, I didn't think he would get the win, but my prediction was he's going to go in there and he's going to put in work, which he did. But just having him come out one, when that music with those lights hit. Dung, dumb, oh my God. Oh my, oh my. Like, come on, man.

So, just to hear that crowd who I gotta be honest with you. Folks in Saudi, you know, sometimes sisters don't get the love that I truly feel that they deserve. I think they were a little bit out of pocket with Lash Legend, calling her overrated. First and foremost, let me pause on this real quick. How are you going to call Lash Legend overrated?

She hasn't been in the game long enough to be rated. Right. But. How can you look at this woman and see what she did? Tossing.

Gonna be hot, DJ. She tossed five women out the ring stairs, and then you're gonna sit there and say that's overrated. Come on, son, don't do that.

So it was nice to see Oba get the love.

So, like, for having him come out number one with that presentation, all about presentation. The way they, I remember an episode of Entourage, I think it was uh Billy Walsh talking about how he'd shoot Vince in the frame to make him look huge, and that's what they did with Oba. The way they shoot him, and he just acts like massive. And when that crowd start chanting his name, bro, I was like, because I was worried. You got to be a little worried.

Yeah, you know, but they did it, and it was just like, man, yes, yes, well, and uh, of course. The most dastardly villain in WWE history had to show his face. It's black history month.

So we saw a man in head to toe in a black hoodie with a black mask. Doing Black cheese. Black things. Once again, the mass man. The mass, the man in black.

The most diabolical man in the history of wrestling. K Johnny Cash.

Well, how many pro club hoodies do they have in the back? They just got a whole trunk full of them, man. Yeah, like a box with a question mark on it. What size do you need? Just one thing that bugs me, right?

If you're gonna remember when Truth came out and he was cloaked in all black and he stomped out Cena, but you could tell because it was him because he didn't have no socks on, so you could see black ankles. There's only three people this could be.

So, if you're gonna do this, right, at least make sure that ankles, like you put some, get the socks, something, bro. Pull them Johns up. Full scuba suit. You know, that in that way, you can't really see Nathan. Oh, yeah, I got two different socks on.

Don't stop. I see one. You know what I mean? That means we had Dwight Howard on earlier. Listen.

But oh, yeah, he was on the show earlier. Yeah, the Rich Isaiah show, but that wasn't the reason. Shout out to Rich Isaiah. But I'm just saying, like, make sure they're fully covered, man. I don't want to see the ankles.

So, you know, it takes away who it might be. Still don't know who it is. But can I share something with you? I would love that. All right.

So, after that happened, with the man in black, stomps out Braun Brader. Throws him in the ring, Oba. Eliminates him. You know, a lot of talk around was like, oh, it was Seth Rollins. Right.

It was Seth Rollins.

So I'll share with you this now online because. Because I told you this to an aside, and then I had to talk to the man himself. As I've mentioned, me and Seth Rollins kind of live in the same area of town. You and Colby? Me and Colby and Rebecca.

We kind of live in the same area. I'm not going to tell you where, of course, I would never share where it is, but I got an idea, you know.

So. After the rumble's over, about two hours later, I go to the local grocery store, Ralph's. And as I'm driving home, shout out to Ralph's. As I'm driving home, I see the sun setting.

So there's a little peak I like to go to that just kind of, if I got time, just go take it all in. There's no, you know, there's a sun setting. And as I'm driving up the street, Pause, by the way. Is that a possible one? Take it all in was kind of crazy.

Listen, as I'm driving down the street, I got to a stop sign and I turned. Mind you, this is about two hours after the Rumble ended. And I turned and I looked and I saw someone standing. Like pulling something out of the card trunk. And I was like, okay, that.

That looks like Seth right there.

Now, did I bust a turn to go? No, I didn't. Cause you know, I ain't trying to bother him, you know, and I don't want it to be weird because I do know. But I just went about my business.

So I was like, everyone online's like, oh, that was Seth. And I was like, Shuffles at home. Did you see them ankles? I don't know.

So I didn't say this when it first happened, but then I, you know, I. I'm saying it now. That was not Seth Rollins because I'm 90% sure the man was getting some groceries out of his trunk two hours after the rumble. And you ain't making it home from Riyadh in that amount of time. And also, they've started this thing now where, like, Who we got in the back?

Okay, yeah, you do it, but you're not the character. That's the other thing, people. We don't know who's actually doing the motion. You know, somebody's just maybe chilling at Catering. Hey, get one of those.

The Pro Club hoodies. Get dressed. Pro, the Dickie's Outlet Pro Club hoodies. All right. So yeah, that was that was shocking to see Braun get eliminated like that.

I mean, especially considering I thought he was probably everyone was thinking he was going to win. Yeah, and then it's like everybody's kind of going one-on-one with Oba, which is just not a good idea. Yeah, and it like whoever's coming out is just like it's just Oba. Like, yeah, I'd probably hang the Miz had a good idea. Like when Oba and Brock were looking at each other, and then Miz got in the ring, and you know, he's a vet, he's smart.

He went, nah. I'm good. Yeah. Let me just mind my business. Excuse me.

Pardon.

Something else I also loved. And I uh This is a real weird like they have to be on a It's on the edge, this storyline. It's on the edge. You have to do it the right way. But when two Americanos came out, and the OG came out to different music, come on, man.

That was funny. It's hilarious. It's funny, but like, what are we doing here? Because the second Americano seems to have gotten some good favor from at least the triple triple fans, where he, you know, he shook Rey Mysterio's hands. It seemed like he was going the babyface route with this Americano.

Then the original Americano comes out and he was getting booed.

Now of a sudden, now of a sudden it's flip. Yeah, and they're kind of cheering him.

So, my dog Shorty G can't catch a break. Who's that?

Somebody I made up. It was a dream, fever dream I had. That's what you were talking about. Yeah, dog. It's going to be weird how they play that one.

We knew this day had to come. Here we go. Whether the mask got to come off, or maybe it doesn't. Right. I don't know.

But, you know. You know, we on Monday Night at Raw, The man in black showed up again. Yeah. To stomp out Austin Theory, who everyone's thinking was the original man in black.

So I guess there goes that theory, unless. They're so smart. They're like, No, we're going to make it seem as though That was an Austin. See, this is where you start getting into high man territory, bro. I'm starting to see newspapers and red string.

You know, there was a guy in Santa Barbara named Lee who named the strain a uh Allowed after me just because he thought I was funny on the rich eyes. And so I haven't gotten any of that by the way, but he assures me it exists.

So, you know. Maybe I do need that to really go, you know, to unlock, get some of that TJ Plus. It's so much happening. That's the name of it, TJ Plus. TJ Plus?

Yeah. That's hilarious. I like that. Happy Black History Month. Can I say that already?

Yeah, you can't say it enough, though. And now. I mean, it wasn't because of this, but we saw his reaction to getting eliminated the way that he did on Raw. Braun Breaker being hurt. Because he overturned the announce table.

The only thing that could stop him is himself. He was so amped up. My man got a hernia that he needed surgery for. I just don't know because it didn't look like it looked like he flipped that table as easily as I pick up our NCW card here, man. It didn't look like he strained.

No, it wasn't like one of those moments where he didn't like it. The man just went. And then it's like he got a hurting after I see it. I don't know if I believe nothing anymore. I don't believe nothing.

I don't know if I'm real, TJ.

Well, I shook your hand earlier.

So, yeah, there's something there. But yeah, in this wrestling world, I don't know what to believe anymore. For I know, that could have been Braun Breaker as the man in black. It wasn't, but I'm just saying. Right.

We don't know who's wearing masks, Vala Magulas. Like, we don't, we like, it's crazy right now. But if he is hurt. This throws a wrench in everything that I thought was about to happen. Because you know that board was already filled up with ideas.

A lot of them revolved around Braun Breaker, right? And then if the man if the man in the mask is attacking the vision. Everybody and their mom Thought about in the fathers. Thought about it being Seth Rollins. Mm-hmm.

If Braun is hurt. Who is Seth going to attack actually? Yeah, Frank is the one that snapped the vision. Seth just gave himself an extra like six weeks of vacation now. Yeah, he's just floating.

Him and Rue get to kick it a little bit more, which I'm sure he ain't got no problem with hanging at home with Rue, but like, yeah, that. It's it's it's real thing, and then just what does that mean for the rest of the vision? Like, there has to be a scramble right now. This is the time to do Unreal. Like, this is the scramble that we want to see what you guys do when things don't go as planned.

And so, you got to wonder what does that mean? If, like, is that pushing back Seth Rollins' return? Seth Rollins, not at mania. He hates doing that, not being at mania. And then he can't go after Punk because we can't do Punk Roman Seth again.

Can we? It's just, can we not? There's layers, man. There's layers of issues just by that domino not falling the right way. And it's got to be interesting to watch, man.

It's got to be interesting to watch. I also want to give a shout out to Lash Legend, which you did earlier. Looking. Dominant, looking like a force to be reckoned with. Without Saudi be tripping.

Happy Black History Month. Saudi be tripping on our sisters. But, man, It it she just looked like a A well put together package right there, man. And I might have thought Bianca was going to return. I picked through the winds.

Yeah, but like, if I'm Bianca, I'm not coming back to Saudi. I'm doing my return at Saudi. I want to pop. Yeah, bro. I want people sitting on their hands.

Yeah, no. Happy Black History Month. It's Bianca Belair. We're still waiting to see what's going on with her. You got Last legend looking like last legend, like the legend that she is, shot Trick Williams.

Hey, Trick Willie. And, you know, Jade dominating the way she is.

Well, Jade's, you can't say Jade's dominating. I mean, she's the champion. As I said uh on the video earlier about who should take you who I thought in a year would be uh the champion and I said she's enjoying like a da uh a run and somebody left a comment like she hasn't been wrestling I was like Hey man, she's enjoying it. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. You know, I don't understand what is going on there.

I don't know if maybe an injury that no one's telling us about. Oh, that could be. You know, I didn't even think about that. Doesn't really make sense. Yeah, even if she's just having squash matches, which is fine.

Yeah. Because. See, look at Oma doing over just showing up to people's matches and beating them up in the leafy. And that Jade Cargill character is a dominant force, so there's no reason we can't have some enhancement talent to come in, maybe a two-on-one. If you're not going to put her in a feud with anybody right now, at least just give her some enhancement girls to go out there and toss around and just to get her on the TV.

So people can stop while she's never wrestling.

Well, you know. Yeah, make her as SmackDown's champion. Show up on Raw, destroy somebody before their match starts. And like, what is Jade even doing here? Let her go back to NXT.

Just cause a ruckus. She never was.

So go to. Oh, right, right. Go to NXT. She calls a ruckus. Go slap JC Jane around for no reason.

No, you know, just showing that, like, yo, the SmackDown women's champion is not to be played with. Right. And so it is like you. She got she has the belt with the big logo. Yeah.

You got to have her out there. You have to have her out there. I mean, Jordan Grace is doing all she can to get her the. Right, come out come out of shot. Speaking of buff baddies.

Ivy Nile. Yo. Let me tell you something. Talk to me, Tim. Monday night raw.

Triple threat. Talk to me. Lyra. Yeah. Whoop, whoop.

Yup. Rhea. Rhea. Yup. Ivy now.

If I sit here and tell you, right? Because you know me, I ain't gonna try to tell you no lies. If I sit here and tell you that, quite possibly, the MVP of that match was what do you call her? Peepo or Lil Schwarzenegger. Yeah, Amanda Schwarzenegger.

First of all, Shout out to Ivy Now, like lose, changing up her hairstyle just changed everything for her. And she is like Buffett Bagwell. Yeah, bro. You know what I mean? She struck the bicep pose when they came back from commercial.

Yeah. I was like, yo. There it is. There it is, right there. And that match seemed a little, I don't know.

There were a few moments, but I kind of feel like if I had to award a gold medal of that match, and a lot of people ain't going to believe it. Just because who she was in there with, I'm gonna say Ivy now, big thing. And when I say rough edges, there were moments where a lot of things connected that probably, you know, normally you want to. Put a little acting on. But it looked like.

Those three ladies were just like, you know what? We know what we want to do. Ivy was showcased in that match. But, like, let's just have a rough one. You know, like, let's just go out there and put it on.

Because it looked like it was beautiful, controlled chaos, but she's to stand out. With the first women's intercontinental champion and Rhea Ripley, there. I denial, we applaud you at the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. And I believe you are an ally.

So happy Black History, Monte. It is a beautiful thing, man. I was happy for it. But speaking of two women who don't look like they can get along, so they're probably going to have to get it on. You got live and Stephanie.

And there were some words that said that Stephanie did not like.

Okay, she. I've listened to a lot of Bad Bunny. I have not heard the words before.

Well, you've heard them. Yeah, but I don't know Bad Bunny record. Shout out to Bad Bunny. We see you, dog. You did your thing.

Uh, who loved the performance? Yeah, you killed it. I just wish you would have done Shembea. Shembea, yeah, bro. I thought we would have got uh, I like it like that.

I mean, Cardi was there. What if he would have done Booker T? All right, that would have been great, but just shout out Bad Bunny and also. Let me get it right here. Happy Black History Month.

I hate he didn't mention it. But yeah, you know, live. And Stephanie, they had some words and I think. I don't speak a lot of Spanish, a lot being less than 10 words, but it seemed like. Stephanie had said something to Liz Liv maybe about being like a cheap trick or something like that.

If I'm not a lady of the night. And then, you know, she called her that P word and yo, Stephanie was like, Yeah. Most powerful defense in the world is the, I think it's the left cheek of Dom. How many people have slapped? How many women have slapped Dom?

Like every dom just got to get it. And some of the ear shots. I understand the mustache and it works, but the way Dom be getting slapped, he might want to go with a full beard just to try to push you. You done got hit by your mama, by your sister. Liv hit you.

Liv hit him. Bring him. It's rough out here. It's hard out there for a pimp. Yeah, man.

And like now, that's another belt that's kind of been on pause. The intercontinental title would have. I think Dawn's been legitimately hurt for a while. Yeah, and it's like, we're not about to take it off Dom. You know, we got to figure out a real way for him to lose that because, like, Dom is the man.

He's a double champ. Yeah. Gotta respect it, you know. If you don't, that's on you. That's your problem.

Also, have a little bit of turmoil with Liv and Raquel. The waters is a little shaky. They tend to mend them. But There's been a couple of questionable situations with Liv and her thirst for the title that Raquel is starting to notice.

So, you know, there might be something brewing there. But, you know, looking at Liv's reasoning, I can kind of understand it. Raquel was already. Had a title match coming up. It reminds me of when Dom was with Rhea and he would get caught with Liv.

I would be online just coming up with excuses for Dom. But I'm just saying, you know, like, so you know, you, sister, you already have a title match against Stephanie. Yeah. So, I just figured it'd be okay for me to get a title match. And I guess it is kind of hard to argue, but.

Now You know. I will say this while I was watching Raw. Was that thing that I complained about to you personally? with Stephanie. Did that change back?

Or was it the new one? Like I said, if there wasn't as much uproar about her song, I don't know if I would have noticed that. Don, let me get this one, Don. Let me get this. Triple H.

Paulabek. Buddy. I don't know what decisions were made, why it was. Chosen to go this route, but on behalf of just me. The NCW fans, fans around the world.

Put it back! Put it back! The music was fine. It was great. She looked awesome.

You're taking Aura away from the lady. Stephanie Vauquer's music should never be touched. She is a champion. It was awesome. We can't have nice things.

Hashtag Put it back. Put Stephanie Vacare's music back. I'm so sorry for yelling. It's Black History Month. I have to have Leeway.

But I need that. I just had to take my ears out a little bit because it was. I need that music. That was passion right there. That's passion.

That wasn't like you just did that to do it. No. You know what I mean? You didn't just blow out my eardrums for no reason. Right.

Because you felt it. Yeah. I'm just hurt.

Okay. I'm hurt. And because you felt it, I, in turn, had to feel it in my ears, but that's okay because now you're thinking bigger picture. If it bothers you, then dang it, it's going to bother me too. Yeah, man.

There's no reason to change her music. There really wasn't. No reason. Boy, Raquel did her, they did the talking. Raquel was at the ring.

This was two weeks ago. And. I heard that music. I'm turning the TV who the hell is that? It was Stephanie Vacare?

St. This isn't Stephanie McCarre's music. Did we lose the CD? What gear is it? What's going on?

Or as Cardi B once said at a reunion, what was the reason? What was the reason? What was the reason? Come on, man. Why, what's the reason?

In an era where you know we keep talking about the entrance music. Don't take away one of the cool ones. I'm still hurt about losing a. The the one that used to be for the the Judgment Day. Oh, if you believe, yeah, bro, that was such a banger.

I'm still hurt by that. The other side, boy, when the judgment day lost the other side by Ulster Bridge to this day. I still don't know the Judgment Days music. If you put a gun in my head and it was like, hum, the Judgment Day's music.

Well, because now they each individually got, you know, pre-standing. Yeah, but when they come out together and it's the black and white and all that, should have, yeah. Gun in my head, I'm getting my affairs in order. I still have that. I still have the other side.

Banger. Yeah. Hashtag banger. I'm a side. But I want to get, you know, pop for music or anything.

Yeah, we've been yapping for a minute. We got we got company. Oh, we do. We got a very special guest. Yeah.

Well, it's not even a guest anymore at this point. It's just like, it's like he, it's like he's coming home from college for the weekend. Exactly. He graduated. He knows he got a key.

Yeah. I last time he was here, he. There was no food left. He ate everything off the fridge.

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This one, he has taken the wrestling world. in the palm of his hand please believe it from here and overseas It is with great pleasure that we welcome the record-breaking most guest appearances on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast, the ruler. Ober. Family, welcome home, man. Welcome home.

Good to see you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Good to see you guys. Oh man, what a pleasure, Jim.

You've been putting in some work. Yes, you've been putting in some work. Letting people know.

So uh Now that you've been called up, but he is a free agent. We don't know, you know, when you got a star like Oba, everybody wants him. You got to put him, yeah, you got to put him on multiple networks, bro. We can't just let this just settle over on one just yet. You know, both shows fighting for him?

Yeah, man. It's good to see.

Now. Talk to us a little bit about what the process is, or what goes through your mind, knowing, or when you find out finally, you're getting that call up. I mean, I've known for a while now. Even before, even before I relinquished the NXT championship, I knew that's part of the reason why that move was made. But I was already on the guaranteed main roster, I'd already signed my contract, I just hadn't been assigned.

A brand yet. Um But my mindset in that moment is that NXT has done everything possible to prepare me. For the main roster, so there was a lot of confidence. Plus, I had gone up there to work with the Golden Goose. Uh mr.

Mr. Rahim Rhodes. You know what's funny about that real quick? I called him Cody Raheem Rhodes in a clip, and some dude left a comment like, oh, that Raheem thing's played out. You need to stop doing it.

And then last week, he says it.

So that played out. That was his middle name, apparently. Even I didn't know. But yeah, I got to work with Cody Rhodes Saturday night's main event at John Cena's retirement.

So I already proved that, in a sense, that I belong.

So there was a lot of confidence getting called up. I was ready for the moment. The only thing that was left for me to do was to ride out my time in NXT, which I did. And now I'm on the main roster, and it's very real for a lot of people now.

So we'll see where this takes us. Absolutely.

Now, you. When you left. You are part of a. I got to do some research to see how many people get to do this, but. You never lost the title.

You didn't lose that title. You just You left it in the middle of the ring, a dramatic moment at the end of the show. Kind of let us all know that, you know, Oba is going on beyond NXT, but. Oba wasn't beat.

So, how does it feel to be a part of what I got to think is a short list of superstars that got to do that? Yeah. It feels very unique. It lets me know. where the company kind of you know sees me caliber wise like like where I am in the pecking order, which is really reassuring.

Uh very very short list. Actually I believe it's me, Oscar and uh the War Readers, if I'm not mistaken. That is a very short list. And uh it's a privilege to be on that list. Not everyone gets to be on it and uh It's for a very good reason.

Now, I have to show everybody coming up to the main roster now that, like, that was done. It wasn't just done for anybody. Like, you don't just have any regular old call-up on your hands, you have a superstar here. I believe it was done for a good reason and was well executed too. Were you a little surprised when you did have to drop the title to Ricky Saints for that little bit of time?

Was that something, or was there a reason? behind that or were you just a little shocked that you uh You lost that belt. Uh no. No, um It's a job. You understand?

It's a job and uh I am very well aware of that. I don't Whatever whatever whatever the booker wants. Uh Sean has a vision, Triple H has a vision, and uh We're all just like, I hate to say it, but we're tools to execute the vision. And uh that's when when people lose sight of that, that's when they get caught up in their feelings and stuff like that.

So when I when I did that, uh I was like, Oh, I'm sure there's a good reason why. Uh and I went with it. I didn't think too much into it. Just having that mindset, he's already ahead of the curve, ahead of the game. Because I feel a lot of people.

Whereas they do get it. A lot of people don't get what he just said. Exactly. And that just takes us back to the first episode. You know, we the first episode that we had you on, you know, we still to this day talk about how impressed we were with your mind for the business and how you get it.

And I remember we talked about he should never lose. And but he, you know, you spoke even then about building up the heel so that the hero looks great eventually. But as long as you spread eventually out real long, we'll be happy over here.

So you get the, you get the. You earned it in the match, but you get chosen to be a part of that Saturday Night's Main event, which was also saying goodbye to John Cena, which is a. a huge moment, but you also are going up against Cody.

So, when you get the call or the text that this is the path that we see for you. What was that feeling like? And then being backstage. With everyone there knowing that this is, you know, they're going to say goodbye to John and all those things, what was the feeling like with the other superstars in the back? It was a feeling of privilege for sure, because that is another short list.

The number of people who had to who got to perform at John Cena's retirement match, you know. It's very symbolic that John's beginning, sorry, John's end is my beginning. And that fact I kind of enjoy. I'm glad I really wanted to work with John. I was really hoping and praying that, like, ah, don't go, don't go too fast.

But he did. He did. I was really hoping to, you know, to work with him, especially when. A lot of people were like putting fire under the idea of you know me being the one to retire him and stuff like that. TJ, TJ, TJ.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bless you, bless you. Um, yes, I was really hoping that would happen. But it didn't. But I had already, you know, rubbed minds with John in the past.

He had given me advice. He had seen me wrestle before. He knew who I was and what I was all about. He had good things to say about me. Whatever he felt like was a correction or like something I could do better, he always told me.

So I'm glad that before that day came, I was at least able to have some sort of relationship with John. And a lot of people don't know this, but maybe they do. But after the show, John came back to the locker room, you know, big star, big shot, John. But he came back to the locker room with all the boys and he shared one last toast and took shots with us. And I'm glad that I got to be a part of that.

You know, it really showed how humble he was. That no matter how big he got in WWE or in Hollywood, he was at his core, still just one of the boys.

So respect to John. You you said you mentioned that there's things that he notes that he gave you that you could do better. Is there something that stands out in particular that you're willing to share? That maybe he said you do this, maybe try doing that? He's very big on um Look at look at me moments.

Uh he I don't know if you've heard the story with uh he and uh at the time Cesaro, Where he told Cesaro to go get the ball that was being thrown around in the audience and pop the ball. But he's very big on crowd interaction and look-at-me moments.

So, like, he was telling me, like, he told me that he understands that NXT is a very fast-paced style of wrestling because that's what Sean wants. But at the same time, he encouraged me to. When the opponent is down, I should always take my time to interact with the crowd and do something that will be memorable. to them so they can always remember me.

So That's one of the things that John said to me that stuck. That was a pretty big one, amongst many other things, but that was the big takeaway. Moments. Always grabbing moments. Mick Foley spoke to us about the same thing.

You know, moments are the things that stick with people when they drive home. Those are the things that will make sure that you last in their memory because they're going to remember where they were for those moments.

So another moment. It is your Prime time debut, you know, being on Saturday night's main event. prime time television. introducing uh you know a few uh a A section of the the fans that don't watch NXT or that are unaware. And for you to debut the way that you did on Prime Time And the crowd knowing what to do for that entrance.

You know, for them to be locked in and completely buy in to the whole and how that felt. And also going overseas, going to the Rumble, and that entire stadium locked in, and they're doing the same thing.

So, which one felt better for your debut for it to be rocking in there, or that sea of people at the Rumble? And that's a tough one because they're equally as good, because you have to think. Uh, the Saturday Night's Mini Game was the very first one, yeah, and like. This is the first time I'm on that big stage, you know, on that big platform.

So I was really glad that the crowd was rocking with my stuff. Incredible.

So I would have to say it's the first one. The second one, the Rumble debut, was more of a Pleasant surprise. I didn't think the Saudi crowd would be hip. To the to the ruler's stuff.

So uh Shout out to the Saudi crowd. You know, I slept on them. I slept on the Saudi crowd, but yeah, they were there. They were there because when I was in Saudi, I was, you know, I was kind of a surprise, but not really a surprise because I thought I was going to be a surprise.

Next thing I see, the WWE social media was like, Uba Fermi is going to be in the room. I was like, Well, there goes the trick. Uh but but I'm there, uh I'm not doing anything, you know, there there's no planned uh meet and greets for me because like I was supposed to be a surprise. And then uh the one time I ended up leaving the hotel uh you know to just go out there, there those people who saw me and recognized me and you know, they did the chant and I was like, oh.

Okay. May maybe I'll be okay hum rumble night.

So very pleasant surprise. Saudi, I apologize. You guys. You guys know what's going on. Yeah, but when they hit that, oh my.

Yeah, well, that was God, man. We're gonna talk about goosebumps because it's like, you know, like I said, we've been down with them since we first saw him. And so we were shown love, but to feel like the world gives you love, man, that was almost like. You know, it's kind of like I When people are into music, right, they always like to say, oh, I heard this band first before they blew up, right? You kind of take a little bit of pride in ownership.

So, not, you know, being Oba Femi fans while you were in NXT grinding before the majority of the people knew. Bro, we were the NXT hub. Yeah, right. We got in our beginning. Our whole roster is NXT guys and gals, man.

So to hear you get that love, to see that love, man, especially this month. Here. February. Yeah, that was that was one of those moments where it's like, yeah, because, you know, it's just like when all the boys, you know, when you and Javon and Trick, when you've all, bro, I screamed, my boy. You know, when you've all been guests, we've all got to, you know, chop it up with all of you brothers.

So to just see the world show you guys that love, man, on for real, it just, it's like, yes. Yeah, man. It's just proud. That's how you grow moment, man, for sure. Yeah, we appreciate all the support, man.

We know the day ones. We know. Come on, man. SCW, man. You know?

What's going through your mind before you debut at the Rumble? I mean, you. M before uh before the Rumble, TJ and I, we were. talking about who we thought would win the Rumble. And I said, Oba, and he was like, I don't know, they're kind of setting it up for Braun Breaker, you know, especially with everybody of the vision being in.

And then who's one and two? Oba and Brahm. And I was like, oh, hell yeah. Bro, there's no way. But what's that feeling?

First of all, knowing that you go on number one. And How Did you like being in the Rumble? Is there something that you learned during there that you'll implement for the next time? I mean, no, not really. I think NXT did a good job of preparing.

You know, us for the main roster. That's one thing I noticed because it's always been my mentality that it doesn't matter. If it's 500 at the PC, or 80,000 at WrestleMania. The ring size is the same, the job is the same, you have to entertain the crowd, and you know, like. I I so I don't get like thrown off by a big crowd or a bigger stage or anything like that.

Alexey did a good job of, you know. uh preparing me for that moment. But it was just a really cool ordeal. I think what was cool about it was the fact that I'm entering number one, so I get my full entrance. Saudi is rocking with me.

I know that, you know, along, you know, down the line in this Rumble, I'm going to be, you know. Head to head with Brock. You know, so it it just it felt really good, you know, if it was a good, pleasant surprise, a great moment for me personally. And you mentioned them, like. Once the world the the became aware of Oba Femi.

one name that constantly popped up is we gotta see Oh, button, Brock Lesnar. And, you know, the moment you came out. One, it was hyped, and then at that point, I think we're all just like waiting. Yeah, right, you're just waiting for that guitar for that, yeah, you know, and then here comes Lesnar, and it's just like. Mm-hmm.

Here we go. And then the way you guys teased it for a few entrants, like you kind of did the face-off, you sized each other up. Nope, we're not going to touch yet. We're going to make them wait. And then it had, oh, you figured a second time: nope, you're still not going to interact.

You're just going to size each other up. Could you feel that, right? You could feel the crowd in the anticipation, I'm sure.

So, what was it like standing across from this man and knowing that, like, This is the battle pretty much everybody wanted to see.

So it's a very, there's so much nuance to that moment because. There's one thing to have buzz online. But a lot of times, buzz online doesn't necessarily translate to what the casual crowd or the live crowd really wants.

So. at the beginning stages of the face-off Me and Brock know that based on You know, our reaction, we both have the understanding that wait, there might be something here, there might be something here. Oh, oh, they are getting louder, they're getting louder, it's rumbling. We have something.

So in that moment, you have that mental agreement, like, yes, we know we have something, so let's not give away too much right now. You know what I mean? So, uh. I'm glad it got the reaction. I'm glad um I'm glad the IWC uh desires actually translates To um To the live crowd and what the casual fans want to see.

And that's an amazing realization.

So we have something there. It's a big money fight. We're not going to blow our load on. You know, just a a a rumble. interaction, there's so much more that can happen there.

So You know, we'll see down the line. I remember I believe the second interview where we were at WWE World, the day after WrestleMania, we were on stage doing a live show. And I believe that you did mention Brock as one of your WrestleMania dream opponents when you're able to get in that time machine and go.

So Hey, did you guys I'm always worried about Wondering if they reveal too much, but I keep forgetting that Unreal is a thing, so you gotta get that out of my head. But did you and Brock have a chance beforehand to kind of go over what you were gonna do? Have you had a chance to talk to him and maybe pick his brain at all or no? I mean, yes, I got I got to interact with him, but not uh Not too much on the wrestling because it was always designed to be a teaser. Yeah.

Just to see, you know. How the people react to it. That's what a lot of wrestling is. It's not like. Like everyone just knows because a lot of times it's just like, let's do this, let's plant this seed, let's see.

What the crowd does. And based off of what the crowd does, that's going to be our next move.

So there wasn't too much interaction into it. Like it was just, it was a face-off, it was a teaser. We knew what it was from the jump.

Now we know we have something. Like we really have something and uh I think I think going from here now we'll have we'll probably have more interaction down the line. You know, people love to say something will feed families. Yeah. That's going to feed generations.

Yeah. Right. Right. We are. Generations will be fed off for you.

I'm sure excited to see that. And I just want to just, you know, I'm that guy. I'm Petty Guerrero, bro, so I just gotta point it out. Between Big E, Kofi Kingston, or Moss. Black people need a victory, bro.

We need Brock. We gotta beat Brock Lesnar, bro. Because Brock sees black success, and I'm about to knock that out, bro. Put this Viking braid in and extinguish this. There's a get back.

Hold on, we have to remember something. There's one black person that Brock was not able to stop his momentum. Let me know. Rahim. They're gonna love that one.

Raheem was crushed. Raheem was immune to Brooks. The Brock stuff.

So one win, one win for us. That's right, baby. That's right, baby. The nightmare, baby.

Now that you've uh now that you've graduated, you know, is there something you're gonna miss from NXT? Uh the people. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you see the same. Yeah, very.

It seems like there's a great camaraderie down there, man. There is. There is. Wrestling has changed. It used to be very, very, very doggy dog.

But. Thankfully, there's been more and more good-willed, good-intentioned people come through and change the culture. of the PC so it's not what it used to be Um five years ago, even three years ago when I got there, it's very different from, you know, what it is now. I it's transformed into a a true camaraderie where everyone is trying to make the show better, like actively looking to improve the product and not just looking out for themselves.

So that's I'll miss the people.

Now when um One of your appearances that you've done Uh throughout uh this new graduation ceremony, you will, just a showcase of Oba. You uh there was a tag batch that was supposed to happen. And we see the War Raiders come out. And then we hear yo music.

Now Everyone who watched saw that you handled yourself well. It wasn't necessarily a match, but he just needed somebody to feel him.

Now, I remember in the first episode that we had with you, you spoke about. How important Ivar has been for you, you know, with being a big man.

So, how was that moment, to be able to have that moment with him on Raw? It was just that more special that it was him, you know? Yeah, he's poured in so much into me as a person, me as a character. you know my my body of work there's there's a lot of he his his uh his fingerprints are all over my my stuff So I, you know, I was just happy that, you know, he was part of that moment. Even though he was at the bottom end of that moment, I understand.

But that's the kind of person he is. He knows the business, you know, he knows what it's about. And you know. He ate some big bombs that day. And kudos to him.

He's still up and alive. You take something huge from the ruler. It's not easy to get back up. But I do appreciate Ivor as a mentor. as a teacher, as an opponent, as a human being.

Yeah, when it happened and your music hit, I was like, oh, who's Oba gonna tag with? Tag. You know, and it was like, oh, wait a minute. This ain't gonna be a match. This is just yeah.

So, you know, I read online a lot of people, not a lot, but they were like, well, you know, the War Raiders, great tag team. Did that, you know, hurt them? I'm like, They weren't expecting Oba to come out. They were waiting for a partner. They were waiting for a partner.

You went in there, you just murked them real quick. What were they going to do? I think the main roster crowd has not, the audience has not fully understood the concept that it's Oba Femi. Like they don't get. I don't think they understand yet.

They will. They'll catch on. They're starting to. Obafemi destroying the Wall Raiders is not a knock on the War Raiders. That's just how good Obakemi is.

Come on, now. And the sooner they realize that, the sooner they understand that, the easier things will be for them. And like what I really like is. Because we were talking about, you know, if you were to be the one to retire Cena. Which I'm still kind of mad that he weren't.

Yeah, but Gunther right now is the most hated man on the planet. Oba, you're too cool to hate right now. They don't know if you face, if you heal. It's just don't mess with that dude. And it's the same way I used to feel about Taker, you know, during the biker things and a few times during the Phenom stage as well.

Is that like he's just a figure? You know, he's just like, it's Taker. Yeah. You know, like. Booch here, it don't matter.

Just don't get on his bad side. Yeah, good or bad. It's like whatever he, whatever path he wants to take in that moment, is where he's going to go. Everybody can get the work. Yeah, so I mean.

Are you a heel? Are you a face? Or is it it's just Oba? I'm just over. And that's how you know when you've got into that juicy corrupt uh yeah um moment because you you People, you know, you're a bad guy, you're a good guy.

No, I'm trying to, we're trying to transcend that now. Like, I think wrestling is. Is finally getting to a place where it's not good guy, bad guy, it's human being. And uh you we want to have relatable human beings that the people can connect with and you know attach to Very few people have been able to get that kind of reaction, you know, like Undertaker, like you said, Steve Austin, The Rock. It just gets to a point where you're just such a good character that people are like, well, he did that bad thing.

Oh, we love him. He did that good thing. Oh, we love him. So. That's a great place to be, and I'm I'm happy that the Obafemi character is there right now.

Yeah. You just led me into my next question. You brought up Stone Cold Steve Austin. You brought up The Rock. One thing I've noticed recently in your entrance, you know, as you do the march.

and you're coming to the ring.

Now it seems like you've started to talk. Right, as you're making that entrance. I didn't notice this before until a few weeks ago, but now you're talking to your opponent, you're letting them know what time it is. Like you told Kit Wilson very Audibly, you're gonna die, right? And that reminded me of another badass's, you know, stone cold when he hit that ramp and did that power walk, and the head's moving, and he's talking trash to everybody.

The Rock was another one who would like to talk trash, you know, to his opponent, let him know what was about to happen. When did you decide to make that little tweak? Because honestly. It's one thing to watch you come march down to the ring, right? It's another thing when you're telling me.

That ass is about to get kicked. And so it kind of just amps it up just that little bit more. How did that come about? I mean, it vary organically. It wasn't something that was planned.

It was definitely like a, you know, say what you mean, mean what you say. ordeal.

So that's just how I was feeling and that's how I'm feeling right now. Like all the all the boys know, like. When Obafemi comes down, you know, you're dying tonight, you know? You already, you know, the business, you already have the heads up. It's going to be a hard night in front of you, tough night, very good night's sleep, tough night of recovery.

Uh so just Just you just bite the bullets. You know, do your thing, but you're dying tonight. That's awful. That's an awful feeling.

Now, you know, there was some, there was some disappointment. online um that we never got a moment With you and you know, superstar that returned at the Royal Rumble, the Royal Rumble winner. Roman Reigns. You know, a lot of people, we fantasy books, man. They're sitting at home and they're like, oh man, I would love to go see them clash.

And we didn't quite get the ruler and the chief. Was did you did Was there anything backstage you guys had a conversation? Have you been able to talk to Roman at all or anything? No, no. Uh All good.

No, how's going on? Good, good, good. All right. That's a solid. The ruler doesn't seem like it matters if he talks to you or not.

No, man.

Something's going to happen. I just listen, I'm a protector. I just see box office like one, you know, box office is box office. I can't help it. I got to know, man.

We're still feeding generations with these types of matches. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, one thing is that Roman is not done. We know this. And as far as the ruler goes, ruler has time.

You know, my time just started.

So he's doing his thing with CM Punk right now. He can write that out, you know, after WrestleMania and then But then we'll talk.

Okay. All right. Speaking of WrestleMania and things of that nature, are you thinking ahead to who you'd like to see? Are you up for getting a spot in this elimination chamber? match.

Like what what's the next few weeks looking like for Oba Femi? I know a lot of people's question is: Is Obar ready for the next big thing, the next big stage? Is he ready for the chamber? But the real question is: is the chamber Ready for buffeting because, like, a lot of times, too, it's not just that. We're looking for a spot for Obar, you know, where to plug him in.

The truth is, like. Not everybody wants to be plugged in. Not everybody. Because the boys know they know what that entails, like I said earlier, you know, so. Wherever I can fit.

I will dominate, I will execute. And uh it will be great. It'll be good.

So They know what to do. They'll figure it out. We're still trying to see, you know, they're still battling to see what show he even on. You know, right? You got a whole roster a little worried, like, he's not coming to SmackDown, right?

He's staying wrong. Yeah, yeah, he's not coming over here, right? Yeah. You know, and there's another thing I was thinking of because, you know, I asked Trick this too. You know, Ober now, you got to call up, right?

You're on two shows. I got to imagine, you know, to quote KRS1, that the money's flowing and everything is fine with Ober Femi.

So I'd like to know, man. How have you treated yourself? Is there something that you had your eye on? I mean, you know what I mean? And now you finally like, you know what?

I've been wanting this watch for a minute, or I've been wanting this whip, or just is there something now that you've able to kind of like reward yourself with because you've been putting in this work and, you know, just enjoying the fruits of your labor a little bit? No, there's no there's no I'm not as uh materialistic of a of a person. Um I mean, I'll get myself nice things and But there's no like one purchase that's like, oh, I've been dying to have this. I think my success is more enjoyed by the people around me, if I'm being honest. than exactly me myself.

My huge pay bump is not, it doesn't necessarily mean that anything is necessarily going to change, but it's good to know that there's nothing that can faze me anymore financially.

So but but that yeah, there's nothing. I just take care of my family back home, you know. Uh now we live here now we can live here you know like that's that's that's really what it is We used to be able to do this, now we can do this. That's Ubafemi's thing. What I really chase is, you know, the moments in the ring and the accolades and the gold and all that stuff.

So I'm not really in there's no there's no one purchase that's you know, been on my mind. Um you know, I we don't know where Things are gonna lay out in the future. You know, things change all the time. Even right now, with the injury to Braun Breaker, we can only assume that a lot of things have to take a shift. Uh backstage, but being so close to mania.

Are you are you f Foaming at the mouth a little bit, just the idea of being able to do all these debuts so close to each other. And possibly getting a match at Mania, is this at least crossing your mind or is it just focusing on the task at hand? I mean, it's both. I am focus focusing on what's in front of me, but at the same time, like, you know. Being at Mania, being on the card, that'll be a huge milestone that I can put off my checklist.

But like I said, whatever is put in front of me is the task at hand, and that will be handled on a week-to-week basis. But I'm not foaming at the mouth. But I would like that to be a thing. Same thing with the Sena retirement tour. It's like I'm not foaming at the mouth, but I would love to be the one to retire Sena.

That that's that's where I am mentally.

Well I'm going to just put it out there because, you know, TJ, I like to plant seeds, you know, push propaganda. Yeah, Chia Pet grows in three days. You know that. I would love. I would love.

Paul, Paul, buddy, buddy. Levec, my guy. I would love come Triple H, man. I would love to see Oba Femi's debut WrestleMania debut in Vegas because Saudi is so far, TJ. Yeah, I don't think we can't speak for you because you know you got movies and stuff coming up.

I do have movies and stuff. I'm just on the daily sports talk show. I don't think I'm gonna make it. I'm just gonna move far.

So I would love to see you to Vegas. I'm just saying. I can make it to Vegas. Yeah, I can make it to Vegas. I can make it Vegas today.

That's true. We could. Yeah, we, we, we, hopefully, that they. First of all, you can't at this point now, the world has seen this man. Yeah, but the wrestlemania.

That's what I'm saying. There's no way we ain't getting over on the biggest stage in professional wrestling. You can't have a bad thing. It would be crazy. It would be crazy.

And you know, I know we talked about the John Cena thing, but was there ever any talks about maybe you getting. A chance to wrestle him during one of those last few matches, or was that never they always played their cards very close to the best.

So we're talented, we're not office, you know. Right. We do our tour. We do our tool. What I love about Oboe, right?

It just doesn't seem like. In a good way, that anything is going to phase Oba Femi. Like, he'll take. What they give him until the time comes where he decides that he needs more, and then that's gonna be a problem for everybody. But you you seem to really, for someone your age, and for as long as you've been doing this, bro, it just seems like you truly.

Okay. It's like you've been schooled and you get it. You get how everything is working. The man was at Alabama and told football no. Like, he did for a minute.

Which I still can't believe Nick Sabin wasn't pounding down your door. I'm like, nah, man. All right. That's a shot put me. Like, I'm not, you know, if my man is focused, task at hand.

I'm fully focused, man. Yep. Yeah, man, but dude, I mean, what you got any more for, man? Man, I know our time with you is a little short today. Yeah, a little short today.

Want to say thank you, bro. Like, um, oh, here's I do have a question. I know that from what I read that you also consider becoming an artist. But you got your passion for athletics. Namely, Shot Put kind of guided your path.

What type of art were you into? Or, you know, what would Obafemi the artist look like? Ubafemi the artist doesn't exist. But I mean, at the time, I was doing a lot of painting and You know, big painting pieces. That was kind of like my specialization.

In college. Hopefully, down the line, I can do some wrestling-inspired. art pieces. Um But that's going to be way down the line because right now I have a focus. But hopefully I I hope to rekindle my passion for art because it's just one of those things that ended up falling by the wayside.

I still have admiration for it. Every now and then I'll look at some good art and you know. you know I I appreciate it, but I need to get enough motivation to get back into the game of painting myself. What meeting? What art was it?

Paints, you said was I was an oil paint acrylic guy.

Okay. Yeah, those were my two main pieces. Anything else I did was because I was asked to, but like, whenever I sat down to make my own pieces, like without any instruction from an instructor, I would. Oil and acrylic was my thing. I bet.

Well, we are grateful that you have decided to take your art talents to the squared circle because he's painting the ring with bodies. Yeah, you know what I mean? And launching people in the era that pizza toss Dude, I'd look at the Does that move have a name?

Well, we call it the Peter Toss backstage, but it doesn't have like an official. How did you know it was the pizza? Listen, bro, I work. This is no contest, baby. I know stuff.

People tell us stuff and you know, we research things. Pizza toss, man. I know, man. That's awesome. Yeah, but it is called the Pizza Stoss backstage amongst the boys.

So, yeah. All right, is there so is there a Nigerian dish that involves dough that you would also handle and throw that we could give it up? No, no, no, no, no. The wild food preparations belong to the West. We don't do to stay grounded when we cook food.

Right, man. I guess pizza tossing this. Yeah, he'd be tossing them. I was thinking maybe we could come up with a devil's kiss moment where we made that move, but you know, no, pizza toss, that's what they know it as. Right?

I can just imagine being the guy who got to get it. Like, that's rough. Yeah, I don't know if that's a move. I'm looking forward to taking that, right? No one's just going to launch.

No one looks forward to it. No one looks forward to it. Oh, but man, you've been here more than anybody. Yeah, man. Obviously, you are welcome here as much as you'd like.

You are. Right now, man, you mr. NCW right now. You, bro, you've been here the most. You're always welcome here, man.

Three's the magic number. Three times dope. You see, I can't wait for the fourth, man. Three feet high and rising, like De La Soul said. Yeah, but it like I said earlier, Oba man, it just truly, like from getting to talk to you the first time we did and then actually meeting you for the second time and now, bro, when I tell you that, like, I think I can definitely speak for the both of us, watching you continue to elevate and watching the people.

Catch on and just chant your name and get behind you. It's just a weird feeling, man. I feel like this is my dude. You know, every time I'll look at Instagram, sometimes I'll see Oba Femi looked at the story or something. I'm like, yeah, this is, you know, this is my G right here, man.

So it's just, there's a point of pride that I feel like goes without saying that I know we feel to see you and some of the other brothers coming up and doing your thing, man. And it's just, I, it just makes me smile. And that should tell people, yeah, y'all need to start checking out them Tuesdays. Might find you something nice. Definitely will.

There's so much talent, man.

So much talent. But this, yeah, this is ruler bushel right here, man. And I appreciate you guys too, man. Like, don't get it twisted. It's an honor to be featured here as frequently as I am.

I'm the three-time record holder, you know, and I appreciate all the support. And rest assured, like, Obafem the ruler is also supporting you guys too. Oh, man, that means a lot, brother. Appreciate it. Just stay healthy.

That's all we ask. Stay healthy. We'll be pushing the propaganda. And like I said, you're welcome here anytime you want, man. Ladies and gentlemen, the ruler of Femi.

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Yeah, man. And he seems we're calling him a kid, but you know, he's still mid-20s. I'm 34. Yeah. And I'm older than that.

But that's a grown-ass man. Man, I've been tripping off that I'm older than Anthony Davis. I'll be having to remind myself. Trips me out. I don't like watching the draft.

I kind of felt that way. When I reached a certain age trying to watch college sports and I realized, man, like, I remember I got to a point where it was like, one of these could actually be my child. Yeah, well that's when you go off. If I'd have started at like 17, you know, it was just scary. By the way, I found out years later a dude I went to high school with, I didn't find out till like 20 years later, he actually had kids in high school.

There was a grandpa by like. 40s. I was like, I'm just finding this out on Facebook. Wow.

So, yeah, just randomly, not for nothing. Yeah, that's that's that's what you get at no contest, all right? Just stream of consciousness, consciousness, just stuff. But Oba, you know. That's a grown-ass man.

Yeah, and it's and like I told him, man, you know, you don't necessarily want to like sweat. Your guest too much, but you know what? Whatever, man. It's just, I don't want to front. And, you know, sometimes we front, not us, but we have a tendency to front and try to downplay, you know, your excitement about seeing.

But we definitely didn't do that, man. It's just, like I said, it's dope to see where he's come from. It's dope to see where he's at. And it's even more dope to know that unless something tragically goes wrong, you know where he's going. Right.

And man. Like they said, sky's the limit. Right. And and You know, we were. Just that moment where you said that, you know, without something crazy happening, we talked about obviously the brawn breaker.

injury but I also want to take a moment Uh It being Black History Month and all. to thank Big E. Yeah. It's like it's one of those things that you kind of felt like you knew. Like, you saw the writing on the wall, but then the happy.

But to get the stamp, like, yeah, is it? Yeah. Hurts, man. And somebody I would love to speak with. You know, we'll put his tweet up right here.

But as you can see, you know, it's just he he basically. You know, he confirmed what I think everyone's worst fear was that, like, you know, the broken neck, the neck injury that he suffered a few years back, that that's it, you know, and um. But instead of looking at it in the sad way, I think we all, especially if you're a fan of Big E, you got to look at it in the positive. The fact that he's able to have, you know, he. Mention the amount of surgeries that he's had in his life.

So, you know. When you become older and I think a little bit wiser as a fan, you just, you want these guys to have a good quality of life, right? And so it's just good to know, thank God, that that neck injury didn't paralyze him. Right, and it's great to see that he's able to move around and function, you know, and still do what he does. You know, he's got a new TV series coming out.

He's working. He's working, man. Moral Seats is coming out. Yeah, he's walking and he's able to function. And so.

Yeah, you know, you kind of knew that that was it, but to read it. Yeah, kind of. Stung a little bit and I remember watching it. I remember watching it live and that Like we said, we're looking to the future, and he's an entertainment man. Like, he knows the big E is for entertainment right now.

And he entertained everybody. Yeah, and. That is uh that's gonna go down as one of those moments. Wrestling broke your heart. And, like, it's not, you didn't know in the moment per se, but you knew something was wrong.

Yeah. And for it to be here, yeah, it stings a little bit. Would love to talk to Big E. We're sending you all positive energy from the No Contest Wrestling Podcast, of course. Uh, but yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we spoke about that because that is big news.

And truly, a really great, nice guy. I had a chance, we met him a couple times backstage, and I know one time, at least two times, I physically witnessed him break away and beeline his way over just to shake our hand and say, What's up, man? And that's something that. Unless you're backstage at a wrestling event, you never see that's something that's very big back there. These wrestlers are some of the nicest human beings, believe it or not.

And I've said this before: if everyone treated everyone the way you get treated backstage at a wrestling event, this world would be such a better place, man. And that's no lie. And he was one of those people, you know, and when he came out as Big E Langston, yeah, you know, remember, I want five, and he did the Bundy thing, you know, and then becoming what he was the second ever NXT world champion. And I'll give them that world champion title. Or even if you don't, he was the second NXT champion, you know, and then just seeing him make his main roster appearance with Dolph Ziggler and AJ, you know, AJ Lee, you know, and it's just like you looked at the guy and you were like, this dude is a monster.

Yeah. You know, and you know, there was a documentary that went out where you saw the guys lifting in John Cena's gym and he made the, I think the record was like 540 pound men's pressure. Yeah, bunny. With A young Roman Reigns being the one who's spotting him and being his loudest cheer. And then the camera pans around.

You see, you know, you see. Xavier Woods and Jon Moxley and Seth Rollins was in that room, and just a lot of the stars of the day when they were young cats just coming up. You see them in that piece just going nuts. For Biggie, and just being like that first voice you hear when you think of New Day. Stephanie McMahon uses it for her part.

Don't you dare be sour, you know, and then just Biggie just seemed like one of those dudes who like. It just people love Big E, man, and so yeah, it it sucked. to see that happen to him, but um Happy he got that moment where he had that world title run because that was amazing, even though he had to take it from. Bobby Lashley, which at least it wasn't. In February.

Yeah. But yeah.

Well, then Brock Lesnar took care of it. Yeah. So. But. Also, I saw on Twitter that somebody suggested this would be the perfect route for the new day to turn back face, in which Kofi Kingston replied.

And this is a quote from Kofi. Shut your whole ass up. Yeah, it's incredible. What a poet. One day we hopefully will see a New Day reunion.

Right now, it doesn't seem like it's going to be that day, but Big E also mentioned that if he were to ever go into the Hall of Fame, he'd want to go as a member of the New Day. I don't know how Woods and Kofi feel about that, but Tom Hale's all wounds. Yeah, absolutely. We got to hopefully get those guys back together at some point. But yeah, Big E, man, just wanted to make sure we spoke about Big E's retirement and another retirement that we didn't get to speak on.

AJ Styles. What the hell? What the hell? I just talked to you. I just talked to you.

Like I said, everything he told us. Everything without telling us anything. He told us. You go back and watch our AJ Styles video when we brought up like a retirement tour and he kind of blew it off, making it seem like, nah, in his way, he made it seem like he wasn't important enough or it wasn't important enough when it happened to warrant you won't even notice. Right.

And I literally interrupted him. I stopped him. I'm like, yo, you're AJ Styles, dog. Like, what are you? What do you like?

We're going to celebrate you. And then this happened. And I told you like two weeks ago, I was like. He's been on his retirement tour, and we didn't even know it. Didn't even know.

And, you know, like I said, the match with Nakamura, not many people are happier than me that that match went off the way it did. And then even with GOOD. What the You kind of, you're holding on right at the end. Of course. Because they were banging it out.

You know, pause. And they were, you know. Respectfully. You got the p I think in your heart you knew. Yeah, but your brain, what is your that's that tweet you have picked up saying that I stick by that I have to tell myself.

I'm pretty sure I made it up. Uh If the heart ever had a good idea, it would be called the brain, right?

So, in your heart. You're like, oh no, AJ's He can beat Gunther. But your brain is like, dog, you know this is. He had that match with Nakamura. That was their hug.

Goodbye. And uh He didn't take the gloves off.

So he starts to take the gloves off, and that's when you're like, ah. And he goes to put him down and he. Stops. Yeah. He slides him back on.

What's that mean? That means his time in WWE is done. My WWE career. But I do believe, yeah, he is this is it, twenty six. Yeah.

But he's got a few stops to make before he drives home to Wendy and the and the kids. You know, so now is there uh you know, obviously the fans of AEW are hammering. You think it's a chance he stops over there? That's they they play rough. Yeah, they play real rough.

Also, shout out AEW for saying uh happy black history month on black history month to you as well on the i don't know you're hearing reports that maybe what might want to go and do it like a little farewell tour in new japan that would be pretty dope tna got with that tv deal that'd be a great spine ultimately though i think you and i want to see mike sand's hand and get that wish that's another good dude just to have yeah shout out to mike sand just to get that match that aj said I don't think WWE would do.

Well, you left.

Now TNA would probably most definitely do it some Tommy Dreamer. Oh man, I wish I would have asked the Oba what was the feeling like when AJ comes back there and it's over. You know, it should have been nice. I be tripping sometimes.

Well, you know, we only have X amount of time sometimes, and there's so much, you know, every question we have. We'll get an answer, and that'll take you down another path.

So it is what it is, but. Shout out to Big E. Shout out to AJ Styles. I got a feeling, though, this ain't gonna be the last we see of the phenomenal one.

So that's kind of good. Sad to see that WWE career and um But man, thank you for what, 10 years of just from the Royal Rumble to Phenomenalness. Yeah, man. Phenomenal. Phenomenal man.

Uncle Allen, as Carl Anderson, the machine gun, calls him. Yeah. Now, I don't. Damn it, TJ, I don't want to end on a sad note.

Well, then don't. Do something that says something to make the people happy then. I feel like for the first time ever. We should let the people know what we plan for them next week ahead of time.

Well, we could do that, or you could kind of do what you did to me on the phone yesterday and kind of set up. How without giving out the name until the end, you could just set up how. Our next week's guest. Came about. Yeah.

Your boy was chilling, chilling out, maxing, relaxing, all cooling. And then. Yeah, my agent. My agent C calls my phone. UTA?

No, WME, Morse. I'm saying, you know, I'm a client too. Yeah, yeah, you got a lot of lives, bro. I uh, you know, you want to start animating when I wrote my book, I became a best-selling. I was an Endeavor client, and then when the merger happened, they kept me.

So, yeah, I was getting Christmas cards for a while. They got me, you know.

So, I get the call from the agency. I don't see it. I'm getting ready to go pick up my child. She's eight. Shout out, Jordan.

Yeah, shout out, Jordan. Daddy loves you. Happy Black History Month, too. But I'm going to go pick up my kid. My agency calls.

I'm like, all right, I'm going to hit him when I get in the car. Then my agent calls. And so now I'm like, oh.

So I go on Twitter real quick. Let me see if I can do that. She be tweeting a lot. I'm like, oh God. Am I in trouble?

Am I in trouble? So I get in the car and call it back. She was like, I think I have something that you're gonna like. I was like, this is great news, because I thought I was in trouble. She was like.

Blank saw what you said on the show. A wrestler, yes. Yes. A wrestler saw what you said on the show. His manager Then hit me.

And He wants to do your show. And I said, no way. And she was like, oh yeah, way. Immediately, I park and I text emergency NCW conference call right now.

So you text me, I'm on air for the Rich Hygins show. It was our last segment. And I see this, I'm like, well, I can't. I'm in the middle of the show right now, but it's almost over. I'll get to you in a second.

Like, bro, y'all need to get on the phone right now. And I told you guys, we expressed excitement. And yeah, it is with great pleasure that I get to let you guys know that next week on the No Contest Wrestling podcast in studio. Sitting right here in this seat. I'll be over there in studio.

We will have John Seaman. Uh Never before seen. Eight. Seventeen. John Cena will be joining us live in studio from this chair.

Next week, no contest wrestling with one of the greatest of all time, and we'll get to talking. We got to clean up. We got to like, I mean, I can't go. I mean, we keep the studio clean, though. It's like my rims.

I keep them going. I can't go Levi's. Can I go Levi's? Or we wear suits. You should wear suits, right?

Maybe. John Cena. Who'll be joining us next week in studio? Yeah, man. You know how we get down with the conversation.

It is something, it's. It's an honor. Number one, it is an honor. The fact that he feeling a validation almost. You know, it's just like the words that we put out there are hitting the right people.

For him to see. The the you know the the monologue that was from the heart. Also, Hella said I wasn't a fan. I wonder how that goes off. But anyway, yeah, it's.

It's validating. And Thank you to everybody who tunes into us. We have something very special for you guys next week. We're pumped. We obviously can't hold water because we told you all week early.

It's going to be great. You got to have that build up or something of this magnitude. As Stevie Wade would love to say, suckers need to know, and suckers need to know. That John Cena is gonna be in the building next week here. It's crazy because you know, Oba said earlier that the boys and the girls watch and they know and appreciate what we did.

And that's one thing, but to have John Cena. See what we did, and I'm sure he saw that clip. Yeah. And I'm sure he seems like a man who does due diligence.

So I'm sure he's went through and maybe watched some other stuff, you know. And so that's just kind of wild to know that. But yeah, one of the probably the biggest star, obviously, in wrestling over the last 25 years. Chose us. One of the best actors right now in the game.

John Cena is really funny. Yeah. And he's really good and really talented. And he wants to be on no contest. He requested, this wasn't us reaching out.

Would we request it? We would have, of course. But to have John Cena. Ask to come on here. I want to go on.

Like, man. Hey, hey. Who the hell do you think you are? Who do you think you are? Who do you think you are, bro?

Just a couple cats who love wrestling, man, and love to talk. And then I hope that's February. Yeah, and I think that had a lot to do with it, too. Had this been April, maybe we wouldn't have gotten him. Who knows?

He might not have been feeling as generous with his time. But yeah, man, this is exciting. You know, it's John Cena, bro. And, you know, I've had the pleasure of talking to John Cena a few times. He's either zoomed in or called on to the Rich Eisen show over the last few years.

And of course, you know, before the wrestling podcast, Rich would always give me a chance with the wrestlers to throw some stuff out there that would always get picked up by blogs and stuff.

So I had a chance to kind of chop it up with him a little bit a few years ago, but nothing, like, nothing like what my good store for him. And, like, yeah, man. Yeah. Hey, y'all, y'all boys, we're moving on up in the world. John Cena next week had CM Punk at the beginning of the month over today.

My goodness. We're just out here trying to do things. You know what I'm saying? Living just enough for the city. Yeah.

Now that John knows where to find us, for those who don't know, TJ, how about you tell them where to find us?

So John Cena found us, which means you should be able to find us. But if you have any trouble, just know when you look us up on TwitterX. We're at There's No Contest. On Instagram, it's the whole thing No Contest Wrestling Podcast. On TikTok, it's No Contest Wrestling Pod.

Of course, you can find us on ESPN, where we're the only. Wrestling podcast, Spotify, Apple Music. You go to YouTube, you go to the Rich Eisen show page, you'll find every episode of No Contest from CM Punk to episode one to Oba Femi at episode 70. Two. Yeah.

And next week, 73, 73 is going to be a man who wore 54. as a linebacker. Right. Who is number one when it comes to tidal reigns. Yeah.

And uh he he's he's gonna be here, so Man. Congratulations. I'm exploding the car. Congratulations, my friend. Congratulations, dog.

You know what I mean? Hey, I love you, bro. This is awesome. It's John Cena. You know what I mean?

Like I love John C. Make sure y'all have a good day.

Well, not too good, because who the hell do you think you are? By the way, she's back, too, so. Hi, Miss Parker.