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It's a five football Saturday. Yeah, buddy. Um and then Sunday, and then Monday. Where Phillip Rivers finishes things off with the 49ers of week 16. It starts and ends great.
Dude, and week 16 begins tonight. With the Rams and the and the um Seahawks.
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So, the news that broke yesterday, we led the show with it yesterday, is that Tua Tungo Vailoa. just a couple years removed from his massive contract. Extension. is now benched. For Quinn yours.
Who at this point last year is getting set to survive a... An afternoon with Cam Scotaboo. And I think the best college football playoff game of last year. It was uh Game was pretty good. Yeah, that game was pretty good.
Yeah, it went to overtime. Fourth down touchdown, right, to tie that up. If I remember correctly, yeah. Was it a golden gold golden bond? Oh.
Look that one up. I'm sure Texas fans are screaming at their radio right now at the correct answer. But at any rate, long story short. Quinn Euros is now as the college football playoff world is beginning. Is the starting quarterback of the Miami Dolphins with Zach Wilson as the backup?
And three games to go. in a season that is now officially over in terms of playoff contention for the Dolphins despite a four game win streak and five wins in six games to get themselves out of a two and seven hole, only to have the Steelers end their season on Monday night football, bringing about this benching. This is what Mike McDaniel had to say about why he made the decision.
So why the decision to go with Quinn and also who will be your number two this weekend?
So um the decision uh is uh complicated but simple. Um the simple pieces I think Quinn gives this team the best chance to win. You know, our focus is obviously to win the next three games, but in particular, like I tell the players, we are focused on beating the Bengals, so that was the motivation. Uh Zach will be backing him up and two will be the emergency third. And what was the thinking in having Tua be the third as opposed to the backup?
Uh you know, I think it was the best um for all parties involved. Um Quinn, Zack, and Tua. Man. Not for long.
Well, here's the thing, man. To hear the. Mm-hmm. The best chance to win. I we didn't give him that that cliché.
We gave him all the other cliches to use as a coaching. Um crutch. But he gives us the best chance to win. He gives the best chance to win. Quinn Ewers has not taken his starting snap in the National Football League.
He's taking on Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals. He's going to go point for point with the Bengals this weekend. The Bengals are playing out the stream. We'll hear from Burrow in a second. The Bengals who scored zero last week.
I understand what they scored last week. Chris, but I don't think Joe Burrow is going to get shut out two times in a row, and I didn't go higher register on that one either. But Quinn, you don't think they're Chris. Let's not lose sight of a coach saying that a guy making his first career start. Drafted in the seventh round, in his estimation, gives the team a better chance to win than Tua.
And I'm just wondering. If it's m more than Than the interceptions 15 that leads the league, or the fact that they are eliminated from playoff contention. Remember when Tua was talking about after the game, hey, Yeah. He was talking as if he was, you know, the first string quarterback and captain and leader of this team. And, you know, we've got to all look in the mirror and take responsibility and things of that nature.
And I'm like, I was even wondering, how did the rest of the locker room look? at Tua for that sort of Leadership if it rings hollow at all. And again, I'm not there. I don't know. But I do know what people like J.J.
Watt and others who observe the game now. We're talking about Tua chit-chatting with Jalen Ramsey afterwards. on the field. Laughing it up. Your team's just been eliminated from playoff contention, and I know he's a former teammate, but you are the starting quarterback of the Miami Dolphins.
I'm just wondering if. Again, we only see the tip of the iceberg. And this may be irresponsible of me to just even spitball on this. But maybe the complicated part of it that he doesn't want to mention, I'll just say, here's the simple thing. I'll just go out there and say, this kid gives us the best chance to win.
Because I guess he's not going to come out and say, we need to go and see if. We have two of successors already on the roster before we go into the talent evaluation portion of our calendar. I guess he's not going to say that publicly. But that's apparently what's happening right now. Because two has got more neck up ability in the NFL and experience.
playing football games than Quinn Ewers does. You know, so there's that. McDaniel was asked in the press conference, listen to this answer. He was asked in the press conference. If There was any sort of regret or Second guessing of himself since he was the.
you know, advocating for Tua to be re-signed. And now he's benched. A season later. The way my brain works is I'm not I'm there's You're talking about emotions. And I have no idea, like the emotions are not.
Um part of my duty. And in times where there's tough decisions to be made, the furthest thing from from my scope and you know me. Do with full intentionality everything as best as I can do it.
So thinking about. Um Tho those broads scopes That's dismissive to the players in that locker room, that's dismissive to this team.
So I don't go there not because it doesn't exist, but because people are counting on me not to go there. What an answer. Very long-winded way of saying, but how about shit? A very McDaniel way. of saying F my feelings.
Yeah.
I'm the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. And I guess kudos to him to say I'm not throwing. Good snaps after bad? Just because I Was advocating for this sort of thing. Phew.
Hmm. Certainly, since again, if his way of staying head coach of the Dolphins is.
Well, Tua is not going anywhere because we're paying him all that money, and my system is the best for him. For him to basically say, let's see what we got in Quinn Ewers. I think is gutsy. If I may say. Maybe even another word that you don't want to say.
Well, I mean. Yeah.
But the NFL knows who Zach Wilson is. We don't really know who Queen Ewards is. I would give Zach a run. I don't understand. It is kind of weird.
What do you mean? I mean, I give him some run. How many games has Zach Wilson started in the NFL? More than Quinn Ewers. And that's the point.
We've seen him play as a starting quarterback in the NFL. How many times have we said, and you even pointed out the other day, that Goff. once upon a time on this show said give someone five years Yeah, I mean, tonight's starting quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks makes a good point, and he makes a good case. And also, he's once upon a time was drafted a spot later in the draft than Zach Wilson was. after Darnold didn't work out.
For the Jets. I don't know. I would give him I'd give him a shot. If yours looks lost against the Bengals, he started 33 games before. Then he can start next week.
Maybe so. We'll see. I guess you want to give the kid.
Some run first and maybe he's shown some stuff. Behind the scenes, running scout team. I can't have had much snaps we talk about all the time. How, you know, backups don't get many snaps. And then, on top of it, third stringers, that was the whole to-do with Shadur Sanders.
How many third-stringers get snaps? The answer is none. It wasn't any negative personal feelings from management towards Shador. It just doesn't happen. Also, pedigree kind of counts here.
Zach Wilson kind of came out of nowhere to be the number two pick in the draft. Quinn Ewers was the number one high school player. He left high school early to go to Ohio State. There wasn't a spot for him. He transferred to Texas.
This guy has been highly touted his entire football playing career. And then, in terms of what you look for in the next level, to succeed early. is Reps and starts at the collegiate level, and yours had a good amount of those. I think it's fair to give him a shot. I'm not saying it's unfair.
I'm just saying maybe you would give, if it doesn't work out in the four quarters here, where he looks lost or. The Bengals just beat em up. Maybe you you you you take a look at Zach Wilson, but the thing that's kind of crazy, think about this.
Okay. Think about this. as the um Um You know, Carolina Panthers go into the final three weeks of the season. All right. And you take a look at Who they're taking on the next two weeks to try and win games.
The starting quarterbacks that they're facing the rest of the season. Are Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold, who, as you know, do not recall their Carolina time. Fondling. Crazy stuff goes on in the NFL. Just nuts.
Joe Burrows spoke yesterday. And my gosh, these sessions, like, they should have him do this from the couch because the questions that are being asked. You know, like lie down on the couch. Dr. Melfie.
Dr. Melfi, I mean, whatever you want to do. Analyze this, analyze that, however, you want to go in terms of a pop culture reference for. a therapy session. But Burrow, last week, as you know, made it sound like If I want to keep doing this.
I need to have fun. Oh, it's got to be about Either his injuries or certainly it's got to be about the penguins, right? And then he, after the game. was like, yeah, this was never about the Bengals. It's not about it.
Okay. This is after a shutout. Then he's just like, I'm a football player. I love playing football.
Now comes his press conference yesterday. And uh they went The media went diving back into his... Mindset and whether he wants to keep doing this. Is it about the bang? All of it.
Hit it. Go for it. I like playing football. Um For for the same reasons that I wanted to Push to come back from injury, some reasons I wanna play This week feels like Everybody's trying to do everything in their power to make me not play football, and I feel like I'm fighting it. fighting everybody else.
Okay, I just wanna play I just wanna play ball. That's what I want to do. He's a gamer. That's all he's about. You speak to anybody, whether it's what Jordan Palmer's been on here, and I'm sure his insights are really keen.
Works with Joe Burrow. and his bro, who I believe just won the state Championship as his first foray of being a high school coach, I believe. Yeah, Carson. Congrats to you, Carson. This is all about for Cincinnati Bengals fans, the PTS day of Carson Palmer.
First overall selection, savior of the team. You're going to take us from. The depths to the heights wears the same friggin' number. Joe Burrow wears the same number nine. It's the same.
Every Bengal fan, is it happening again? Is Burrow going to just wake up one day and say, I'm done here? You folks Don't get me. I don't get you. You don't protect me.
You don't give me the.
Okay. You know What I want, you don't give me the roster. What they have given him, though, is the money.
Meanwhile, They took Paul Brown's name off the damn stadium. You know, they took Paul Brown. You know what I mean? Like, the Brown family just. Took the Bengals' name off the stadium.
And finally sold it to some corporate. That's why we nickname it Peijo Stadium. Yeah.
Right?
So It's it's like One more time. You want to play here? Hit it. Is there any world? In your mind, where you're not the quarterback with the Bengals next year?
I can't see that, no. Have you ever both thought about the possibility of not being the quarterback here during your career? You think about a lot of things.
Okay. And when you look at quarterbacks over the course of their time, great ones. Payton. Brady. You kind of have to understand that you never know what this league will bring, and what did you learn from watching how their careers unfolded?
Yeah, a lot of crazy things happen. Every year. Um Michael Parsons got traded Right before the sea right before the season, I think this year. Um that is a Something I hadn't seen. In a long time.
In the NFL, so Crazy things gonna happen. Not exactly. I love it here. I'm going to be a bangle the rest of my life. I mean, but what do you want him to say, though?
That, I think if you're a fan, you want to hear that. I'm a Bengal for life. Why would he ever say such a thing, though? Because we know you you right there should know that that's not The case. You would have never thought Brady would have left, right?
Right, and Favre and Manning and Joe Montana, and the list goes on and on. I know. Places where, I mean, Peyton Manning is a statue. The stadium. You know The statues in front of doesn't exist without Peyton Manning and even he.
Left. Yep. It was like all of those players once said they want to be that team for life. I mean, Richard Joe's given an opportunity to do that. Of course, I cannot I can't see not being the Bengals quarterbacks.
He's really couching all his words very carefully. Rich, I think at this point we can name more great quarterbacks that didn't leave.
Something is up.
Something's up.
Something's up.
Something's up.
What is it? I just think it's a frustration of a season. I really do. Because I mean, you know, this organization, if the coach has got a year left on his contract, he's going to be the coach. And they don't trade for people?
They don't do that sort of thing. That's what even. Pelliser goes the Bengals don't trade. They don't make trades. It's rare to make trades.
Well, that's what Carson said he was going to do, and that's why Bengals fans are losing their minds. But what do you want him to say? No, I'm going to be a Bengal for life. Don't worry, Cincinnati fans. I'm totally cool with what the front office is doing.
I'm cool with everything else. I'm committed to bringing a championship to Cincinnati. I think he would say the same thing. But he didn't. He was given an opportunity to do all of that.
Oh, he's given an opportunity: do you think of going somewhere else? And he could have said, no, think about it, I'm committed to winning here in Cincinnati. But what if that's not the truth? Clearly, it's not. He didn't say that.
Lie to me? Is it what you said? Lie to me. Please let him know. Yeah.
If you believe it, Speaking of Costanza, he's gone. I think we need to wrap our mind around that, man. No, no, no. Speaking of Costanza, all the things you say they don't do. Maybe they should look and say, we haven't been successful doing this.
Maybe we should try making a trade or doing something different. I don't know. I don't know. I I again, you want to you want to say that to Jerry? Is that gonna is that advice that Jerry would take?
Well, the problem is Jerry has You know, three of them things.
So, no matter how long it's been, he's at least had success in one, like the Bengals. have none? Yeah.
I don't know. Joe has to wear some of this too. They did what he wanted. They drafted the wide receiver he wanted. They re-signed both wide receivers that he wanted.
They got shut out last week. He has been injury, I don't want to say prone, but a lot of injuries have popped up in his tenure. He needs to wear some of this as well. Wear what? The losing.
The losing. Okay. Or He's Joe Burrow. He is the window. Yeah, we can't say he's Joe Burrow anymore.
Okay. This season is kind of... Taking some of that shine off.
Well, next season when everybody's back, because I bet you everyone's going to be back. Although two days ago, I did say two is going to be back, and that's a little different now.
Well, their best defensive player in Kingdom. We'll find out. We'll see what Joe's going to do when the offseason hits. Or Every Wednesday. It's borough.
Up in the air Wednesday. It's what it is. That's what's coming in Cincinnati. They could use the win. By the way, so could the Dolphins.
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Hulu, our ESPN radio presented by a progressive insurance audience, is returned on Hulu, inspired by yes, shocking actual events streaming now at Murdoch. Death and the Family, Patricia Arquette, and our guest, Jason Clark, here on The Rich Eisen Show. And so, when you take on this role, do you watch the documentary first? Do you listen to the podcast? You just say, I'm gonna go at this from the page and just my sensibility as an actor.
How do you handle this? Yeah, no, I watched a lot first, particularly the trial. There's so much out there, Rich. There's so much discussion of it, it's like you sports guys. There's criminal detectives breaking down his testimony and analyzing it beat by beat.
Stop right there. You see that look where he's looking down at the thing that says this, there's homicide detectives. I loved it. It was fascinating. There's a wealth of stuff.
But I did kind of think about whether I could really get to 265 pounds. red headed, you know, six foot four.
South Carolina. It's just like I think, well, you know, you need to have, you can't have too much hubris.
So it was a, you know, there you go. Yeah, you actually put the weight on for this, though, right?
Well, I put on like 40 pounds because it was like I knew I was going to have to get at least a 220. To I was Yeah, I was a I was one ninety when I started. I just finished another show where I was in shape. And um I kind of w you know, I wore a suit there for the belly and all that, but if I'm just wearing that with nothing up here and no prosthetics, it's gonna look silly, you know, and I never wanna be silly, and I, you know, you wanna I wanna do the man justice in a good way, too, and do as well as do the story and You know, and you know, believable.
So, um, yeah, I started eating to put it on and carry it. And it had kind of the added benefit of yes, it does make me in the suit look believable, and I look puffy and overweight and unhealthy because I was, but it gives you that idea of just carrying that much, of consuming that much, of needing to just. Eat and drink and sugar and all the stuff that I'd done to get there.
So, what, like pizzas and what are you like? What do you got?
Well, I started off in, I was in France, so I started off with good stuff: pastas, you know. Cheeses, whatever, and then it just doesn't come along because your metabolism still burns.
So then, yeah, you go, you end up by the end, yeah, it's like. Is it the 2 a.m. cold pizza in the fridge? Oh, no. You know what I'm talking about, Don't you?
It's not too bad. What does it say about us that he's talking our language right now? Come on, you're in shape. You look good. By the way, I'm fishing for that compliment, so thank you for delivering it.
I appreciate that. And then you had to take it off for it because for the last trial, You know, he's dropped a lot of weight because he's off the drugs, he's been through rehab. He's in prison, you know. He's actually exercising, he's working out. You know, he's like in those Rocky movies, he's down there, pumping out, giving.
No, but he'd, funnily enough, he looked stronger and better as the trial went on. He looked more and more human. He found, you know. a tangent back again. And so I just stopped, you know, so I was angry eating to put it on, I was angry taking it off, you know what I mean?
It was like I literally just picked a date with a show record. I said, it takes me about two weeks before you'll see results. And I got off as much as I could. Heck of a cast, man, for sure. It was his great cast, wasn't it?
Patricia Arquette, Brittany Snow, and your dad is played by Gerald McCraney. He's been here before. Has he? Telling stories about working with James Garner and being on Deadwood, which is one of our favorite shows here. That had to be a blast working with him.
He was, I got to tell you, that man is a straight-up. Beast, you know, no, but he really was. There's a couple of days there where he admonishes me and he admonishes all the boys. You know, you needed someone who's the head of that family, the head of that clan, the patriarch. And Gerald You know He's done everything and he's still feeling it.
He still comes in prepared, throws it down. Yeah.
You know, and like he has his cigar in his chair at the end of work. I mean, he's like, he's a lovely, lovely man. I send my love out to him if you're out there, Jerry. Yeah, he really. Yeah, he told a story about working on the Rockford finals with James Garner, you know, back in the day.
And that's, it's, it's all, it's all cool. We got, again, Murdoch, Death and the Family available now for streaming on Hulu. And obviously, this gentleman, if you will, if I may, again, calling somebody who served two life terms and now has 40 extra years of crime.
So this character, if you will, this guy, he's not the first real life guy you've played in your career. No. He's completely on the opposite end of the spectrum. You played Jerry West. I played Jerry West winning time.
Now, how did you prepare for that role? I read his book. You did? I read his book like four times. I listened to his book even more.
um you know you watched a lot of the footage you can get hold of Some of the early commercials that he did way back in the day, the basketball stuff. There's a lot of stuff of Jerry out there. I mean, you know, Jerry famously didn't like my portrayal of it, you know. How did that hit you? It was upsetting, you know.
I mean, it was upsetting. Not that he didn't like it. I don't mind the joke.
So it upset me to think that it upset him because I really. I really loved who he was and what he'd done and what he stood for and all the things that he brought. And. You know, there was a kind of a a style. you know, waiver within that.
I mean, I thought we were making, you know, a Uh you know uh You know, a John C. Riley, you know, a much more heightened, a slightly heightened version of what. This 80s poster pin-up world was not a you know, not a docu-drama. Right. But I, you know, that said, I took everything from his book, and a lot of the criticisms that some people seem to have was like, didn't you read Jerry's book and his dark heart and the hole he had and the rage he had and the golf club breaking, you know.
It's like he did break his golf clubs famously, you know, through, and he talked about it in the book, it's all there. You know, I might have r raised it up a little bit, but I wanted to make him memorable and cool and exciting and and that that, you know, those like the Testerosa and the nine thirty turbo posters and all the pictures of these great players we all had on our walls. I did love the show. The show was fantastic. And Jeff Perlman has sat in this chair.
He's a friend of mine. And I. I just think some of the the West family was upset at the portrayal of his That his anger wasn't always so flashpoint in that. It wasn't so flash point, but when you've got, I mean, look, and I look, I can get that. I was, you know, I texted his son.
When he passed away, you know, I didn't want to comment on anything publicly, you know, but he sent me the loveliest textbook. And he always hoped, and we hoped to get together at some point with Jerry, you know. You know, my answer, because I love this, my answer to that is like, I just wanted, you know, you're bringing the heart on the sleeve to the few scenes that I have as Jerry West. Yes, sir. That show was not about Jerry West, but I wanted to make him memorable and dynamic and, you know, one of the baddest asses around in that business that just had such a passion to win and to be the best and succeed and bring the best out of his players that it upset him, which is what he talked about a lot, you know, and what he's carrying.
So yes, you know, I maintained the rage a little bit too much, but it was like, you know, I had X amount of scenes to bring. Jerry's passion, which I thought was deeper and stronger than anybody else.
Well, the thing that I also heard on the flip side about the complete accuracy was his. Um I guess inability at times to watch. Yeah.
The live games that he would just be in the game. We had some seats or no, you know, in the basement of the bowels, if you will, of the arenas. Yeah, he refused to go to Boston. He never stepped foot there again. That was.
What was the line about. The Celtics in it that was what you what was that again? Boston. Yeah.
Oh, you teed me up, man. And I'm going to the big club there, I hope. I wasn't the one, but I do recall that. Oh, dude, you asked for the driver. I gave it to you, you know?
No, it was. You wanted a chip shot? It was something about a priest and the Celtics or something like that. I should have looked this up before. There were some great lines.
There were some great lines about how he just hated the Celtics. And the scenes, obviously, where Michael Chiklis playing Red Hour all were priceless. I'll never forget. Seeing Chicklis, right, in the full get up, and him coming out to me, looking at me, oh my God, look at you. And I'm like, oh my God, look at you.
You know, and he was just, you know, the cigar. Because my first job in America was in Rhode Island, was about, you know. You know, loosely based on the Bulger brothers, you know, and I was trying, you know, Billy Bulger, you know. And so I grew up. In that Boston world, I played Ted Kennedy.
I know that world and love that world immensely, you know, and the people and the heart on the sleeve thing, and you know, and there was just, you know, I mean, that whole, you know, I read all those books. I read Wilk Chamberlain's books, I read, you know, Red's book, I read, you know, oh, The Great. Arguably the greatest, when you argue about who's the greatest, the winningest basketballer ever, the Center for the Celtics. Yeah, Bill Russell. Bill Russell.
I mean, I love the way that Bill Russell just still puts it. I mean, count them, dude. Count him. Exactly. You know what I mean?
Whatever you want to argue about, it's just like, you know, you didn't beat me. It's just like, and I love that. You know what I mean? And there was that element of, yes, I was a boy and a fan of this world, not just of these players, but of this time and this representation. Like, you know, the Tester Ross and the Miami Vice.
The world was larger. We were kids. America was like, dude, as a foreigner, it was like, man, I got to get there. Look what's going on over there. Magic.
It was great. And obviously, I thought it was a superb show that I really wished had more time than it was allotted. I wanted a bit more of, you know, like stepbrothers and a bit more of like, you know, a bit more of a, you know, John C. Reilly. I mean, we used to, I used to joke with John, you know, I mean, you know, because you've seen.
Yeah.
You've seen Tallanega Nights and all that, you know.
Well, I used to joke like pre-scenes, you know, with the pre-roll, we're getting ready to start. I'd have a little bit of light, you know, booking a foursome on the Beverly Hills golf course, you know, because that's where he used to play. And I'd book it under the name Mike Honcho.
So I'd be in there. No, no, honcho, honcho. No, for four of us. No, no, it's 7 a.m. Because John's about to walk in into a scene with me.
The crew would just be cracking up. Honcho, Mike, you want me to spread your butt cheeks, dude? You know, no. Because you know, I'm taking the scene out of Teledya Knight. Of course, I get it.
I love what you're doing. And so, what was the line you were saying that Paul Revere should have slept in? Yeah, he should burn this place to the ground. I know, he should have. Yeah, he shot.
Wait, Chicklis would take that person. Chickless was real. No, no, no, no, no, no. The fact he's been on this show and he's talking about how, you know, my name's on the pocket floor. That's what I mean.
These guys wear their hearts on their sleeve. And Jerry in his book. Talks about it so clearly, so passionately, and that deep hole in his heart. And that's what I was after. It's funny 'cause Because, you know, Murdoch was a Gamecocks fan.
So I started going down the Gamecock thing. I had no idea about that song. Yes. Was that song? Oh, my.
I learned all about SEC sports. College sports, man. I mean, America, you know, look, I've always loved that here. You know, America loves its sports. It really does.
So, what is your sport? Ooh, I'm a big football, soccer fan. I'm a big Arsenal fan. You can call it football. Don't worry about it.
Yeah, it's fine. I'm a big tennis fan. And now it's cricket season in Australia.
So who's your tennis player? Oh my gosh. Who is it? I mean, John McEnroe was my dude. I mean, that was the guy.
I mean, I started off loving, I played a lot of tennis myself. And I started off loving Borg and the cool demeanor, but then along came John Mack, and he's just like. I used to think: if I saw that dude on a court, I think I'm going to wipe, I'm going to clean the court with his ass. You know what I mean? This skinny little dude with whatever.
And then you'd watch him and the way he served and changed his game and his touch and his magician and he's like, and all those cool dudes, you know, with the headbands. There's a famous photo of them. They were suave. Dudes back in the day, weren't they? Dressing well, hanging out Staten Island, New York.
So to see a guy from Queens do that, you know, back in the day. He spoke to that tennis ball. Yeah, Johnny Reynolds. And it did everything. And you go, you know, and I remember, I remember being heartbroken when he lost.
He lost in five sets to Lendel at the French Open in 84 when he lost his. Because my mum would, there was one thing my mum would let me sit up and watch was the tennis in Australia with this small little thing, you know, trying to get a thing. And I'd sit up and I'd watch, you know, I watched the Borg McEnroe five-setter, and then I watched. I watched years later I watched him lose to Lenderley after he was two sets to Love Up. In a break, I think in the third, if I remember.
And then you lost somehow. You and I are a similar age, and my parents would never let me. 43. Right, exactly. My parents would never let us watch T V while having dinner.
Yes. Except for that. Except for that. For the Super Saturday at the U.S. Open, we would wheel a black and white television in to watch the men's semifinal wrapped around the women's final of the U.S.
Open. Because my mom loved Jimmy Connor. Jimmy Connors. Super Saturday. Oh, loved Jimmy Connor.
I saw him and Jimmy. They made up finally. Remember he made it because Jimmy disappeared. Ian took nobody. He's not out there doing anything.
He's just off living his life. Just being Jimmy Freddy. He was the original. Take it to the camera and pump it. When he did that in the old Louis Armstrong stadium at the U.S.
Open. Yeah, so I'll just go here with you, too. I think I could get a point off Carlos Alcaraz right now. I think just give me one day. See, I fancy myself too.
I fancy myself. And I'd probably get a point of a car loss more than I'd go sinner. He's a bit more. But Alcaraz can get to anything. Alcaraz can make a mistake.
That's what I'm saying. Did you know, Jason Clark, did you know that if you hit your opponent on the fly with a serve, it's your point? Of course it is. Yeah, dude. Yeah, you know, my shoulders, I used to have a big serve and volley game.
My shoulder's not the same as what it was, but I've started playing again. I mean, you know what they're teaching? They're teaching that sinner, he's able to hit the backhand with an open stance, which I can't do because it's just so, you know, it's always get the foot across and lean into it. But he's hitting it with such power from the hip, like a, you know, like a Tyson body shot there and just ripping it. I think they're both phenomenal.
You know, I went to the US Open for the first time this year, and I saw Djokovic play Taylor Fritz. Oh, that was a good one, man. It almost became a great match, you know, if Fritz had got there. And look, I have insane respect for Djokovic at that age to be pounding out against those guys at that level and facing. Because you see, you play with these kids nowadays.
There's a kid that I've trained with, and he's a ranked junior. And he's they're hitting the ball with such venom and spin on their wrist. Yeah, it's like, dude, stop it. Stop it. Just give me a slice, Daniel.
Come on. Jason, the number of people I've mentioned this Alcaraz thing to here have it started the same way that you did, which is looking at me like I'm crazy. No, but I'm weighing it up, dude. You're the first one to say, I'm with you. I'm with you.
I could go to the chat. It might take me a while, though. Fantastic. It really might take me a while. Fantastic.
Dude, you know, he came out. You know, with the sleeveless shirt. Oh, God. Ready to go. I mean, they are turning it up, those two.
He's unreal. Him versus Sinner, I will watch anytime for sure. Murdock, Death and the Family, available now for streaming on Hulu. Check it out. The Last Frontier, all episodes are available right now for streaming on Apple TV.
And A House of Dynamite on Netflix is awesome. We've talked about it with Jared Harris. We've talked about it with Tracy Letz. And you're awesome in it as well. Thank you.
And I suggest everybody to see that. Just don't do it as I did, which is watching it before you go to sleep. Don't do that. Yeah, no, don't do it. Oh, my God.
Don't watch that cat. Don't watch murder before you go to sleep either. That's true. Don't watch anything that you're doing, pretty much. It's great to have you here, meet you, come back anytime you want to.
Love to talk to you, mate. Great look at you. Jason Clark, right here on The Rich Eisen Show, back to wrap up hour number two with your phone calls in a sec. Meet the computer you can talk to. With Copilot on Windows, working, creating, and collaborating is as easy as talking.
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It comes standard. Um 844-204-Rich, number to dial on the show. Baseball news breaking as well. The Mets have signed Jabba Chamberlain. Did you hear that?
Stop it. I don't know if you heard that one. Stop it. Jabba Chamberlain has just joined the Mets. Come on now.
What? Are all the Mets coming with him? No, what he's going to do? Midge bugs.
Sorry. Midge bugs.
Midge bugs.
Midge bugs.
That's what cost the Yankees the 1997 playoffs. Midge bugs.
Java was unhittable until the bugs showed up. He was that long ago? Yeah.
Yeah, 97. No way, really. Yeah.
Was it that? 96, they won. 97, they got. They got uh they got the gate. In 98, they won in 99.
99. No, he's only 40. He would have been 12. John McCamberlin isn't 40 years old. Yeah, it was after that.
The Midge Bugs are after that, I think, right? What were the Midgebugs? 2002? Hold on, hold on. Yeah, the Midgebugs are after that, I think.
I thought 97 they lost in Cleveland, 2007.
Okay, the Midgeballsbugs are later. 97. I was 10 years off. Yeah, yeah. 07.
Midge Bugs. But that's what makes it a great signing for the Mets. Java Chamberlain. Yeah.
He'll go great with the former Matt Luis Severino. This has been going on for a few years, by the way. Yeah, like when Carlos Bale took him. From us and then Robin Ventura. Are you looking it up now?
Are you looking it up now? No, I don't need to look it up because I know these things. Like, I know this. Dude, Java is going to be great. Setting up The three guys.
So wait, Holmes. We'll start because that was a great idea. You talked to me. He won 12 games. And then what are you talking about?
I thought that was a great idea. Yeah, but you're bringing us back. I just said that was a great idea. Your sarcasm is coming through in 10K. TJ, I'm not a troll.
That's a troll. He's trying to troll, but it's kind of dumb. Guess what? Guess what? Guess what?
We're going to do this segment again Friday. Oh, God. Well, everyone turn in the radio off because they all hate the Yankees and don't want to hear. Who hates the Yankees? Everybody.
Only Del Tufo half hates them. Yeah, right now. He only half hates them. Exactly. Whew.
Mitch bugs. I haven't heard that forever. Jose Contreras, is he going to the like you heard the one so though? Mitch Duke is going to the match in sports television. El Duque wouldn't be a bad man.
That would be. El Duque is a great match. He's got to be 60. Didn't El Duque play for the Mets eventually? No, he.
You sure about that? He is 60. He is 60. Good job, Brockman. Job of Chamberlain is 40?
Yeah.
El Duque did finish his career with the Mets. That's what I said. Yeah, he's in the Mets a long time. That's what I'm saying. So stop acting like it's a one-way train ticket.
It goes. The trains go. No, see, what the Yankees do is they take the Mets to supplement. The Mets take the Yankees to hope. What does that even mean?
I think you know exactly what it means. I don't think anyone knows. The Yankees already have the hope. They just need the supplement to help. You just take the Yankees because you're just trying to single-white female the Yankees.
So you go with that again. As I pointed out to you, your World Series run had three men there that were very. Including the manager, Joe Torrey, which I think you pointed out, Chris. I pointed that out. Oh, he's a cardinal, really.
Okay. Hall of Fame Cardinal.
Sorry, folks. I would say.
Sorry. Sorry, what? They're listening to this.
Well, I think this is outstanding information. I think we have different. Listen, people are just driving around going, wow, I didn't know Jabba Chamberlain was still in the league. You know? He's going to make a great Met.
I'm sure half these people don't even know who John McCamberlin is. Oh, they do. Kevin Moss, is he going to be the next? Shane Spencer is going to go nail down right field for the Mets. Let's get him.
Sure. Let's keep going. Right. Okay. I can't pre-rate.
Oh, Friday's going to even be a better segment. I would hope so because it can't be worse than. No, this is a great segment. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Mm-hmm.
