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Coming up, actor Tony Goldwyn. And now, it's Rich Eisen. All righty, everybody. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show, live from the Rich Eisen Show studios for the week in New York City, in downtown Manhattan, where Disney and Disney Plus and the ESPN app come to you. We also have ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance, SiriusXM Channel 80.
We say hello to everybody out there: 844-204-Rich, number to dial here on this program. We've already chatted with Jeff Saturday in our number one, Tony Goldwyn, the actor from such terrific shows like Law and Order and also the President of the United States from Scandal. He was also in the movie Ghost, the Pelican Brief, currently also in one battle after another, which is now nine-time Golden Globe nominated, as we found out yesterday. He's coming in studio in about 20 minutes' time, right there. We've got my guys.
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So the tree. We started the program talking about the Philadelphia Eagles and Mike. My counsel again to everybody in Philadelphia is to still relax.
Now, the conference is gone. The Super Bowl, you can't sit here and say that's definitely gone. The conference right now for the Eagles sitting at 8 and 5. They do have that win over the Rams sitting in their back pocket, but because this is professional football and not college football, they can't talk about great wins that they've had and how that could utilize, they could be utilized to get themselves into the playoffs. This is the NFL, and the problem for them is they need the Rams to have the same record as they have.
And the Rams currently are 10 and 3. uh are are sitting um two games um in front of him. And that is no good. That's no bueno.
So, I don't think the Rams are going to be. Two games worse than the Eagles the rest of the way. Doesn't feel like it.
Okay, but they need to be two games worse than the Cowboys the rest of the way in order to lose the division. I don't see that one either. Certainly, when they got the Raiders coming next, and I was counseling patients, Philadelphia Eagles fan, Rich Eisen show. if you don't mind me saying, social media grandma Jake Culp. is a diehard Eagles fan.
He cut up my Eagles take, put it out there on our Instagram and TikTok. I believe the mentions are approaching dumpster fire status. Eagles fans don't want to hear it. But that's the reality of it: you got to be two games worse than the Cowboys to not make the playoffs at all. And you got to be two games better than the Rams in order to be the one seed.
I'd rather sit here and say you're going to be a division winner, you're going to have a home game against somebody. And who are you going to beat? That's a problem down the road. But the ultimate problem that everybody's saying is it's going to be like the 2023 season where we're not even going to have a home playoff game. We're going to be one and done.
You're going to have to be one and done at home. If that's going to be the same fate. of the same ending of your season.
So that's my repeating at the top of the hour about what I said about the Eagles to start. The Los Angeles Chargers are nine and four. The Los Angeles Chargers started the season 3-0 and 3-0 in division, but then started losing players left, right, up, and down, from Khalil Mack, who they got back, to Joe Alt, who they got back, and then lost again. And then Justin Herbert, they lost a healthy non-throwing hand. last week on his body And all he did last night.
Was he has his body thrown around like a rag doll half the time, where he was under attack. Because the offensive line for the Chargers, as well as it's trying to play, being completely reconstituted because of injuries that keep besetting that unit. That is always the lifeblood of a Jim Harbaugh team. Sacked seven times, and when he wasn't sacked 10, seven times, he was running for his life or just running the football as the leading rusher of this team, which is not optimum. But at the end of the day This team gave up 100 yards to Saquon Barkley.
and AJ Brown. And at the end of the day, This team beat the Philadelphia Eagles. And now also Talk about toughness. Herbert embodies it. Talk about toughness.
This defense. embodies it. Talk about toughness. The Los Angeles Chargers are now 2-0. In road games at home against teams from Pennsylvania.
I was there the night for the Pittsburgh Steelers showing up on Sunday night football. It was jam-packed. With black and gold, and Steelers' terrible towels everywhere, and Herbert having to go silent snap count. And last night I'm getting texts from friends at home. Saying that you know, from the east coast.
Saying, what is up with all the Eagles fans there and It's It's bad. I mean, it's gotten better for the Rams. It has gotten better for the Rams. But the Chargers fan base is beginning to grow, and hopefully, with the winning that's happening, we'll continue to grow. But, you know, there aren't many Padres fans walking around Los Angeles, California.
And that's the reason why I'm pointing out to anybody who's like, what's with the Chargers not being able to get their home fans going? They do have home fans, but in Los Angeles, Eagles fans and Steelers fans are going to show up and take those tickets. And the Chargers in both of those moments In both of those games. in front of the entire country. one on a Sunday night and one on a Monday night.
had their hands full, With a Road game at home. Against two teams from Pennsylvania leading their divisions at the time, I might add. And they want em both. They're unbelievable. And the question is: where do they go from here?
But first things first up is where they go from here is whether Justin Herbert can stand up. Yeah. Of a left hand that had screws put in it, a plate put in it, surgically repaired. Bef you know, uh a week before one week Before the actual game, he was taking snaps, feeling well enough. To hand off with that hand, by the end of the game, he was handing off with the other hand.
And by the end of the game, I mean, the ESPN crew did a great job of covering this from Laura Rutledge to the camera's work on Monday Night Football. He was wincing every time he seemed getting up from the turf. He had this to say about his hand afterwards. Yeah, um it's a it was a broken hand, so. Like how did how did you navigate that?
Like you were stiff it seemed like you were stiff arming people. Like Jim said it was it felt like a fake movie, like the stuff you were doing. Um, yeah, at that point, it was probably just instinctual. And, um, you know, obviously, you know, I'd love a couple plays back, uh, you know, dropped a couple on the ground and. You know, I did everything I could to hold onto the ball, and I just got to be smarter with it and use two hands and be able to grip it as best as I can.
Well Uh I I don't know. How's it going to hold up? How's it going to work? But so far, so good. 'Cause the defense ball's out.
The defense took the ball away last night, as we know, even twice on the same play um with Jalen Hurts Four takeaways there. They got a fumble, also, fumble recovery. They were all over the place. And they're missing some people still too, defensively. But they've got some big-time players there.
They've got a big-time defensive coordinator in Jesse Minter, and then they got Jim. Who just breathes life and enthusiasm and confidence into everybody? And that's. been job one for him. Not just there, but maybe into the fan base.
That is selling their tickets to Eagles fans. Um and maybe I don't think the quarterback needs it. But remember how I said that find somebody in your life to love you as much as John Harbaugh loves Lamar Jackson?
Well, it's a harbaugh. It's a harbaugh thing. It's a harbaugh thing to breathe. Love and confidence in every word out of your mouth into the quarterback. And as you know, Jim Harbaugh appeared on our show in our Los Angeles studios.
May I say such a thing? We have two two studios. Yeah, we do. We're bicoastal. And he came on our show during the summer saying he woke up the night before saying, I've got to get Justin Herbert to the Hall of Fame.
I mean, this is a guy who is also talking about Uh everything about Justin Herbert. known to man, and now you can add being a superhero to the mix. And Justin Herbert. He's a superhero. He is a competitive maniac.
Uh I mean he was even stiff arming guys. you know, with the broken hand, and he had surgery. A week ago. And uh out here tonight. It's it's it it it felt like Like I was in a mo like we were in a movie.
Where um You know, the quarterback's doing these, and it's like you get to the point where you go, okay, this is getting a little unrealistic. You know, that's what it felt like to me. He is just. He refuses to lose. Um It's just tough as a tough as a.
Tough as they get. He's a superhero quarterback. You knew Jim was going to have a moment like that. Super Soldier serum. Is that what a Harbaugh?
I mean, Herbert has. Or is it Adamantium? What's in him? I think when I think about the Chargers this year. They embody the temperament and the personality of their coach, maybe more so than any other team.
Coaching means so much, man. They're gritty and they're resilient. If you think about all the injuries, especially on the offensive line and what Herbert's kind of had, he has had one or two kind of nagging things the last couple of seasons. And I think had they have lost yesterday, they might have been out of the playoffs. And now the division is still alive.
They're going to be in. It just felt like they were going to be trending in the wrong direction. That I would understand. I mean, you know, now it feels like they've locked up a spot and they're in a good spot going forward if Herbert can manage what's going on with his left hand.
Well, again, when you look at the AFC, because there's three teams that we were all expecting to be in the mix, or two of them at least, with Miami being the third and the Chiefs and the Ravens being the two I'm referring to, they're six and seven. We all thought the Ravens and the Chargers would be in that mix, right? The eight and five team that's on the outside looking into the Colts, who are trending in a different direction right now. Uh I mean Which Chargers quarterback would you rather have at 8-5 or 9-4? Justin Herbert with a broken hand, or Phillip Rivers coming off of a couch at age 44?
So the Texans, though, at 8-5 are trending upward. The Bills at 9-4 are trending upward. The Chargers needed that last night. For sure. And their next game, though, is at Kansas City.
They've tried to sweep the Chiefs, and that would potentially nail the coffin on the Chiefs' ability to even make the playoffs this year. Currently, sitting at 16% on the old next-gen stats. And I saw on ESPN last yesterday on the flight in the pregame leading up to Monday night football. If the Chiefs win out, they'll be their percentage of making the playoffs at 52%.
So the Chargers need to win that game. And then they also have uh one last one with the Broncos. Um at the end of the season. And so they have got a very tough schedule. If you put up their schedule, if you don't mind, for the final four games of their season, I just mentioned two of them.
And the others are at Dallas and home for Houston, which is a game that potentially I am calling since I don't know I'm we're we're gonna hear shortly as to which game on NFL network it's either uh Chargers and the Texans or Seattle at Carolina, which are both gonna be important for everybody, I would think. But three out of their final four are on the road, literal road games as opposed to being at home for one. And then there's the Texans.
So for them to make the playoffs would have been really tough if they started from an 8-5 base of operations. But with the only other 8-5 team on the outside looking in being the Colts so banged up at the quarterback position and everyone else at 6-7, I think at 9-4 they are going to We're going to see him in the playoffs again and potentially on the road, most likely. And I had an overreaction. I just need Justin Herbert to be healthy. I need that left hand to be as healthy as possible, which means let's not get him sacked and let's not run him around.
You know what I mean? If best you can. Yeah, they lost last night. I had an overreaction locked and loaded that one of the six and seven teams was going to make the playoffs and leapfrog them. But before we throw it a break, finishing up this topic of conversation.
Normally, when Jim Harbaugh talks like he just talked like superhero this and stiff arming and movies and whatever, that's a Harbaugh file because it's his usual sort of out of left field sound bite. There was one as you notice, we did not make that a Harbaugh file. Oh, I was kind of wondering. Because this is a Harbaugh file on him describing. How great the win was, and how it made him feel winning in the manner in which the Chargers won in overtime against the Eagles on Monday night.
Sometimes people that are standing on third base think they hit a triple, but they didn't. The Harba files. Have you ever been a part of a game like this? Oh. Brought in a lot of teams.
And uh this is definitely, I don't maybe the best, best feeling, uh, you know, just uh Wonderful, wonderful. Feeling of winning and thrill of victory. It's certainly in the discussion. I put in the discussion the birth of my seven children, my marriage, you know, in the conversation. The Hardbot Files.
Ha ha ha! I would applaud Dick Clap. Did he be the national championship? Does it matter? Does it matter if he's thinking about it?
Jim Harbaugh is happy and riffing. Is a great gym. Amazing. Happy and riffing Jim Harbor. Happy and riffing.
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Television writer.
Okay. Did you want her? Did she find it herself, or did you not want her to be in the same business? Yeah, no, no, no, I mean, my wife, my wife, Jane, and I, and Jane's also in our business. She's a production designer, a film production designer.
Right. We didn't push our kids into it. But look, I felt really lucky to have found a profession that I'm super passionate about and to do something that every day I can't believe I get paid to do it.
So when both of our daughters decided they wanted to kind of go into this, my other test is a writer and an actress and director. It was just a natural thing.
So we didn't stand in their way, but we just tried to give them a sense of what the reality was. Because it's not an easy business to find your way in. Not at all. And so, what is your first memory of the business. Like what's your first memory of growing up in your family of show, if you will.
Well, you know, honestly, both of my parents were really careful to keep us away from Hollywood. You know, they didn't want us to grow up to be Hollywood brats. Right. And they, so we weren't really exposed to the business per se. My memories about sort of Hollywood, my grandfather, my father's father, was Samuel Goldwyn, who was one of the pioneers of the film industry, one of the early moguls.
For those who don't know, the G of GM. GMMGM was him, right?
So going to my grandparents' house when I was a little kid, they very much lived the life of sort of old Hollywood. And it was very formal, and they were... They were just great characters, kind of of another era. And so I felt that a lot. But I never met movie stars or went to movie sets or went to fancy Hollywood parties other than like going to visit my grandparents, really.
So you'd go to your grandparents' house and where, you know, I would see like maybe a box of matzah on the wall, you'd see an Oscar? Is that what you're saying? Like as a grandparents, that's exactly right. My grandfather had an Oscar and it would sit in an upstairs table in a hallway. Just sit there, huh?
Yeah, just sitting there. That's amazing. Wow. It was cool. But do you so you never visited a set or anything like that?
I don't think I went to a film or television set. My father had an office at the studio where my grandpa worked. They both had offices there.
So it goes known as my dad's office. And one day I wandered onto a television set. uh without permission when I was about Twelve years old. Yeah. And the security guards grabbed me and said, Kid, what are you doing here?
And I said, oh, my dad works down there. And then they realized my dad worked there and they were very nice to me. But that was honestly, it was a show in the 70s called Night Stalker, I think. You strolled onto the setup. Amazing.
You were the original Night Stalker. Yeah, I was a stalker on the night. At age 12? But yeah, but I never, yeah, again, my dad just wanted to keep us away. They wanted normalcy, you know, which I'm ultimately grateful for.
Yeah, yeah. Like you're, you know, if you could, your grandfather and your dad would be a great podcast. Pairing, don't you think? They would. I wish they were still with us.
If you could do that, if I could do it, that would be the dream. You know what I'm saying? The dream guest. Because it is a neat, again, idea for your podcast because you come from a family being in the same business to try. Is there any.
From your interviews, any through line from your own experiences that you see that makes for a successful You know, sort of father-son, father-daughter, mother-daughter, mother-son setup, anything like that? Here's what's been a really interesting common thing across the professions that we've been doing. Obviously, most of the people, all of the people that we've been talking to are very successful and deeply passionate about what they do, and every parent. that has come on as expressed the friction they have felt being a Consumed professional and trying to be a parent. And they all express, like, I wasn't there enough, and I felt guilty, and you know, and I wish I could have been there more for my kid.
And then the adult child is like, That's totally not true because watching you do something you cared so much about and have had such an impact on your profession and inspired me to go into my profession has been the greatest example I could have had.
So you have this kind of combination of guilt and absolution. Wow. From, you know, I'm sure all of you guys are the same. You work really hard and if you have kids, it's like you can't, it's a constant struggle.
So that's been pretty neat. And yeah, the other thing is just it's a very unique. Intimacy you share. Like, you know, the coaches Schaefer talk about Sharing that professional intensity is a very unique and special thing. Whether you're a basketball coach or An actor or whatever your jam is.
Maybe you could get Bill Belichick, Steve Belichick on. Let's get Steve and Bill and his son. Yeah, right. You're on the list. I would do your show.
I have teenage kids, but I do work with children. Does that suffice? We'll see if we open up the lens a little bit. No, what are you complaining about? We're grown men.
In our 40s. I take my own snacks to the airport. That's true. That's true. That's true.
Get it stuck in security because they need to look at your sandwich. One battle after another. That hits your desk or that hits your agent or something. What did you think of when you saw that script for the first time? Oh, well, you know, Paul Thomas Anderson, who wrote and directed that film, is one of our, you know, he's one of the bucket list directors you want to work with.
He's one of the greatest filmmakers ever. And so, you know, when I got a call saying they were interested in me for this film. It was kind of like an immediate yes. But I'm talking to Paul, when I read that script. It's just so entertaining.
I mean, as entertaining as that movie is when you see it, reading it was like being on a roller coaster ride. And also, there's this whole sort of subversive social commentary in that film. And the character that I get to play, Virgil Throckmorton, is just absurd. And it was so much fun. And doing it with Sean Penn, whom I'd known for a long time and admired forever, but we hadn't been able to work together so much.
When did you first meet him? When did you first cross him? I met Sean on the set of Nightstalker. No, it was not. No, wasn't that early?
I think that preceded Sean Screw, but we met, like, I don't know, just through the Hollywood community, through sort of social activism, and then we had mutual friends that, you know, and so we'd met socially and stuff. Right. That's all. But I mean, I'm just wondering how a Paul Thomas Anderson script reads. You know what I mean?
Because on the screen it's just such a vision that obviously he puts puts into it. I'm just wondering how y jumps off the page. As I said, some of Paul's rooms are very esoteric, and you think I can't imagine how reading this one battle after another was so entertaining to read. Like I said, it felt like a roller coaster ride. Um so The experience of the movie, while dazzling, It had the same feeling as a read.
It was like you couldn't stop. I felt like I read it in half an hour. And it was a long script because the movie's two. Over two and a half hours and it feels like it's 90 minutes. Yeah.
And then again, it's been nominated for nine Golden Globe nominations. Yeah, it's been a bit. And it's won the Gotham Award, and it's won Critics' Choice Awards. It's award season. You're going to be hearing more about it.
Yeah, for sure. How did you get involved with Ghost? Was that your first movie? Ghost was not my first movie. It was my first big part in a movie.
I'd been acting for about five or six years by the time I fought my way in for an audition for Ghost. My wife, Jane, who I mentioned is a designer. She designed scenery for movies, a production designer. Her career, she's a few years older than me, so her career was already blowing up when I was still struggling as an actor.
So she'd done a bunch of big movies, and she was the production designer on Ghost. And she kept coming home at night going, you know, they haven't cast the bad guy in the movie. And I was like, Jan, I can't even get my agents to get me an audition. And she kind of kept on me, and I think she whispered in the ear of the director, like, you know, my husband's an actor. And I finally got an audition, and then I got lucky, and it worked out.
My husband. Make a great Carl. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that was magic. Yeah, normally you don't, I guess. Go ahead and nominate a loved one for somebody for playing such a character, like such an evil character. You know, like see that in my husband. Yeah, you know, it is so iconic now at the time.
What was it feeling like to you at that point? At the time, it felt to me like I was so grateful to have a job. Pretty much. And thrilled that I had such a great part. It felt while we were doing it that we were doing something that was super special.
I remember when I read the script, I thought, God, this movie could be really commercial. But, you know, at that time, you never ever know if something's going to work. You know, it had been a while since Patrick had had a hit. Same with Whoopee. You know, she obviously was a big star, but maybe the past few movies hadn't necessarily been huge.
Demi was relatively unknown, and I was completely unknown. And you just never know. And that movie, there wasn't much awareness of it, but I remember we had a sneak preview of the film where they do, and it was Days of Thunder was opening, and that was their big movie, Paramount's big movie. And they piggybacked Ghost with Days of Thunder.
So Days of Thunder was at 8 and Ghost was at 10, and they did sneak previews with audiences to giggle up. Days of Thunder had okay attendance. The 10 o'clock showing of Ghost, for some reason, was packed. I don't know how, I don't know how audiences smelled it out, but from the first screenings of it, people wanted to see this movie. And I would tell people about it.
They go, ghost, what is that? I haven't heard anything about that. But audiences smelled it, that poster, that image of Patrick and Demi, there was like this romantic image of them. And people just wanted to see that movie. And then it was a huge.
Hit overnight. Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard of pottery making being something so romantic. That's right, exactly. Like that was that was a newfangled thing. Yes, or erotic.
But the idea of the movie as well was just a beautiful thing, also. And it just hit on so many levels. How tough was it to be a bad guy around Swayze, who is like one of the greatest guys, right? Do you have a good story about him with you being a young actor on that side? I do.
I do. Such a sweet story about Patrick.
So. Patrick was is the such a beautiful man. But he had He was compulsively late. He could not be on time to set. And one day he was like an hour late to set.
And he was so anxious about it. And he knew he was so late, so he rode a Harley to this Paramount lot where we were filming to try and dodge traffic. But Harleys are allowed. And he gets to the security gate, and the security guards wouldn't let him in. They were like, Mr.
Swayze, you're not allowed to bring a motorcycle onto the lot because of the noise. And he said, I'm sorry, you guys, I'm late to work. And he ducked down and went under the barrier. And they were chasing him down the lane at Paramount. And he got to his trailer and he ran inside and locked the door because he was embarrassed.
And afterwards, we were sitting around talking. I remember Demi and I, and he saw the security guards come in, and he was telling us the story, and we thought it was hilarious. And he goes, Excuse me one second. He goes, and he runs over to these two guys. And he apologizes to them.
And he was like, I know, I'm so sorry I did that to you. And I know you guys are just trying to do your job. And they're like, well, Mr. Swayze, it's fine. You know, it was okay.
We knew you had to get to work. But that was just such a perfect example of Patrick. Like, I think they were like a block away and he ran down to apologize to them.
So just as a follow-up, he left the motorcycle on the other side of the gate or he took the motorcycle down and drove his motorcycle through the gate. Oh, my God. It's like a stunt man. The security man. Like, a stuntman.
Yeah. And then rode down, and they were like, so he felt bad. And he went and, you know, sought them out and apologized to him. Either way, just like either you're leaving the motorcycle or you're going underneath and you're not getting through. Yeah, he was going over there.
I would love to hear the security guard perspective of that story. Like, they're just sitting there normal day. Here comes this maniac on a motorcycle. Wait, it's Patrick Swayze. Where are you going?
Yeah, right, right, right.
Well, exactly. Do people, do you run into people who think you are, in fact, the president of the United States? Has that ever happened? That's the weirdest thing. People are calling me Mr.
President still every day. Come on. I don't know if anyone's actually thought I was president, but I do that as a regular thing of hello, Mr. President. Hello, Mr.
President. I mean, you have played, certainly in this century, one of the more famous presidents of the United States. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And people still love that.
I mean, one of the great things about it, like. You know, streaming television is it's forever news.
So that's right. They say, I just finished watching Scandal. Didn't we finish that 20 minutes? You wrapped that almost 10 years ago. I know.
I know. And we know Namdi Asamwa. Oh, Namdi the best. He's one of the sweetest guys on the planet who's the worst half of Kerry Wasson. Exactly.
You know, exactly. He's just a delightful human. But I'm just wondering if people have a lot of people. He wasn't a great football player. He certainly was.
I know. Have you ever done a sports movie? You ever done one? No, I have not done. Think about that.
No, not right. No, I have not.
Okay. We have an idea maybe for you. Yeah, well, let's do it. There's a man named Philip Rivers, and he might have a movie needed to be about his story. He just announced today he's coming back at age 44.
Wow. Yeah, if that actually happened today. We don't know if he's going to actually play, but yeah, the Phillip Rivers story. If you can say dad gummet a lot, I don't know. You're working on it.
I'm an audition for Dad Gummit. There you go. That was us. You're hired.
Okay, great. You're hired.
Absolutely. Easiest audition. And Long. On order, new episodes return Thursday, January 8th on NBC. Talk about an iconic.
An iconic thing to be involved with. Yeah, that's been fun. I joined, I think this is my third season. Right. I took over for Sam Waterston, who retired after many years of being the DA of Manhattan.
So now I'm now in the DA. It's been really, really fun. And that's again, you're playing that's currently in season twenty-five, which I is not a misprint. Um and uh one battle after another, uh it is in theaters still. Everyone should check that out.
I believe it's going to start streaming soon, if I'm not mistaken. And then, Far From the Tree podcast, you and your daughter are interviewing folks who are working in the same industry as a parent-child duo. And you obviously know all about those situations.
So, thanks for coming on, man. I really appreciate it. Thanks, guys, for having fun. I really appreciate that. Tony Goldwyn here, and you can follow him on Instagram and also Twitter at that name as well.
Tony Goldwyn here on The Rich Eisen Show. We'll be back to wrap this show up on Tuesday, set up the rest of our three days here in New York City in a moment.
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We've got Hank Azaria and Paul Rudd in studio. You know, Gunther's coming here? I heard. How about that? How about that?
We snuck that one in for you. I'm excited. You can ask him all the questions you want. He's an intimidating man, that guy.
Okay, is that right? Oh, yeah. It's the ring general.
Okay. He's actually, he has the honor of wrestling John Cena and John Cena's final wrestling match this Saturday. Have you caught up on, by the way, speaking of John Cena, have you caught up on Pluribus? I am not caught up. I'm only through five out of the way.
Yeah, I'm on. Four.
Okay, I gave away a little easier.
So he's in Pluribus? Not caught up yet. Thanks for ruining that. Dude, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Not caught up. And it's just in the Titanic, the boat sinks. Don't worry about it. No, it's not the same. It's not the same.
Oh boy.
So listen, remember I told you Shador Sanders. His stat line was the first of its kind in the history of the Cleveland Browns. Did I tell you about how Shadur Sanders? his stat line in terms of a rookie was only something that Joe Burroughs done this in the Super Bowl last year. And in terms of this century.
the only quarterback to have four passes. of four four passing plays of 40 or 50 yards or longer, one of those two. In his first three starts in the National Football League, he was Aaron Rodgers.
So he's done something nobody's done for the Browns. He's done something only Joe Burrow has done in the Super Bowl era. And he's done something only Aaron Rodgers has done this. century. And that is the way I set up the Rich Eisen Show's favorite internet auntie, Jackie and Virginia, back here on the Rich Eisen Show.
How are you, Jackie? You there, Jackie? Oh boy, I gave up all setups. Jackie, you. But how are you, Jackie?
I had already played on it. And his auntie was able to watch the whole game. He did.
So good. I was just so proud of this kid, you would have thought he was mine. He did really good. I was proud of him. I love Cam also, but I was really proud.
Close your door. And I can't wait to see what else he's going to do, because I think he's going to do really good. Jackie, for us to sit there at the draft and watch the manner in which he got drafted, right? And to say, hey, at some point, Cam Ward and Yes, ma'am. Can you hear us, Jackie?
Can you hear us? Hello, unfortunately, Jackie. I'm here I know. I know. We hear you.
For Jackie, unfortunately, she can't hear us. She'll have to call us back. But um Again, for Shadur to do what he did. against Cam Ward. If you had told everybody at the draft say around the sixth round.
Cam Ward and Shador Sanders are going to play each other. at some point this season. 'Cause we'd we'd know the Titans and the Browns are going to play in week 14. Right. And it'll be like, let's just say they face each other.
What's going to happen? And the fact is, Cam Ward would come out with the win. Wouldn't surprise us, right? Um But Shador Sanders would account for four touchdowns and three throw for over 350 yards. I'd be like, how does he lose that game?
Right? Certainly with knowing that Miles Garrett had already taken the Bucs and they got a button. First two draft choices were on defense also. in Mason Graham and also Um Swessinger, who might be the defensive rookie. Oh, he probably is, yeah.
Right. Is he the leader right now? Yeah, he's odds. I think he's going to be. Yeah.
I mean, he'd be tough pressed to figure out who else will be. But. That is pretty amazing. Had Jack, you been able to hear me. My last follow-up question is your thoughts on him being taken out for the two-point conversion at the very end?
It probably wouldn't have gone very well. I don't think so. I don't know if this is a. Should I go back to the phone lines? Are we good enough to go back to the phone lines?
I think we're done, unfortunately, for those who were on hold. Mike Tomlin, everybody, had his press conference today. He always speaks on Tuesdays in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And he was asked about um being on the hot seat. Hmm.
And that is today's edition of Straight Out of Tomlin. You are now about to witness the strength of street knowledge. Our kicker is a serial killer. Straight out of Tomlin. Said you understand your role as a head coach to When negative things happen, DK after the game said, Mike takes a lot of bullets for us.
I'm curious, 19 years into, does taking those bullets get rearing at any point for you? Mr. Job. Like one of those bullets was at the Bells game, fans calling for your job. Did you feel like you were in the hot seat at all last week?
Man, I've been in the hot seat for 19 years. Did you feel like you had something to prove to the fans at all? I always feel like I got something to prove, not necessarily to anyone in particular, but that's just the spirit in which I go about what I do professionally. Straight out of Tom Lake. I love the guy, man.
The spirit in which I do things professionally. Just as a way of putting things. I know. But I've been on the hot seat for 19 years, he says. That's probably not entirely true.
I think what he understands. What he means is basically saying I'm a head coach in the National Football League. It's always something that you've got to do. Right. You've got to live you know, and uh you've lived week to week.
You have to live Make sure that you survive in advance every single week. Especially that fan base, man. They're they what? They give voice to it.
Well, I mean, you once sold them sneakers at the, you know, I did. Steelers, the thing about the Steelers fans is they feel like every year they should win the Super Bowl. Right. You know what I mean? And anything less than that, they are unhealthily unhappy with.
And pick any of these other teams, right? How many of them would love to have a coach who's never had a losing season? I mean, it doesn't are done with that stat. Yeah, yeah. They're finished with that stat.
Yeah, like you said, expectations are different. I think at this point in time, Steelers fans aren't expecting the Super Bowl this year. I think if they go anywhere near close to the Super Bowl, it would be a remarkably you know. Pleasant surprise for the team.
Well, I think the last couple of years, Steelerts fans have resigned themselves to the fact that they are just an eight and nine, nine and eight team. This is who they are. They're not going to change because ownership doesn't want to change. They have no plan at quarterback, and Tomlin is just another coach. You've pretty much hit the nail on the head, I think.
Well. Look who at this point in time is leading the division, going into the Monday night game. To wrap up week 15 against the 6-7 Dolphins team. I get it, but they're probably going to go 9-8 again, right?
Well, they'll be 8-6 after this game if they win this game. And I mean, again, the Miami Dolphins are going to be coming into this game on a red-hot win streak, but. It's going to be bitter cold. It's not like New York City was any, New Jersey was like a day in the park. No, I was surprised too.
It came out as hot as he has did against that game against the Jets because traditionally, in the 30-degree temperature-wise, he does not perform well and does not win those types of people. Mike McDaniel, you're talking about.
Well, I mean, again, the way through is A-chan, who got hurt, but he almost had 100 rushing yards before he got hurt. You got over 100. He said he could have finished the game, but guess what? He's going to go to Pittsburgh PA, and that is a massive contest. But the Steelers 100% with that win last week have set themselves up to take care of business.
over the final month of this season. You know? And then a Toman I think his way of saying, I have been on the hot seat the last 19 years. if I may, is He's not going to spike the football because there's still a month to go in a season. Oh, Rogers kind of did that a little bit, though.
Oh, Rogers said, Well, did you shut you up for the rest of the week for a week? Yeah. is what he said, and then kind of shot a look of like, you know, tell me I'm wrong. You know, he gave the international symbol of tell me I'm wrong about that. It's going to be 23 degrees in Pittsburgh at game time, yeah.
At kickoff. Dolphins, Lions, Browns. Are you strolling in his lane? Yeah, I should have given that to him. My bad.
Give me the finale. Give me the final four for the yeah. You mentioned the Dolphins on Monday night there at Lions, at Browns, home for Ravens. At Lions. Let me just tell you every everybody, if the Steelers are going into that game.
At eight and six.
Okay. And the lions and the ravens are right behind him.
Okay? Just throw that out there. And it's Rogers' last spin in the NFC North. It's his last visit. He unfortunately missed the Bears visit.
And this is his last visit in the NFC North. He is 100% going to show up in that game just like out of his mind. And the Lions are going to need it too. Yep. That is going to be a massive game.
Ravens Bengals this week. Oh, my goodness Week fifteen is lit. Week 14 felt like a playoff weekend, man. Oh, it did. There were some heavy hitting.
There were some great matches. Last night's game was sick. Last night's game was, you know, it felt like a fever dream half the time when there was. What, six points and six turnovers in the second quarter? The Texans Chiefs felt like a playoff game with the big hits.
And so did the Bills and the Bengals and so on and so forth. That'll wrap it up for this Tuesday edition of the Rich Eisen Show. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to The Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app, The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
