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Congratulations to you on Micah Parsons is going to be in the Dallas Cowboys lineup on opening night.

Now here's pressure. Here comes Parsons. You know who said it? The head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. We feel like Micah's going to be out there when we get a lineup against Philadelphia.

Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Today's guest, actor Colin Hanks. Super Bowl champion linebacker Jonathan Vilma. Cardinal safety Buddha Baker. And now.

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So much going on in this world of sports. We're going to cover it for three hours. We're going to have some fun with Colin Hanks joining us in 20 minutes' time. He's been on the show for For well over a decade. The first time he came on, we had a good time with him because he said he and his dad, when they watch football games together, they look at a head coach on the sideline and they wonder what sort of stepdad that person would be.

They call it the stepfather game. Colin played that the first time he was here. We've got six more head coaches for him in the National Football League. Um And he's going to have some fun with that concept when he comes in in support of Nobody 2, which is in theaters near you. And we also have on this program, Buddha Baker of the Arizona Cardinals is going to join this program as well.

That's an hour number three for all of us. And you at 844-204-H being the number to dial. Chris Brockman is still in Philadelphia. As far as Pennsylvania for his fantasy football draft, because it definitely needs to be two days. Um and um, so he's there.

Uh, Suze was sitting in. For him. Uh yesterday. But today. Sitting in that place is somebody.

Who Susie helped create. Ladies and gentlemen, my youngest son, my 14-year-old Cooperazi, is seeing you today. How are you, Coopy? I'm great. How are you?

That's okay. You okay over there? Yeah, I'm great.

Okay, very good. He's feeling good in the neighborhood. Cooper Evan Eisen is sitting in that chair today. Coop, you ready for what's more likely that Chris has provided you? Do you have the information in front of you?

Yes, I do. And I have learned from a mistake about that one more thing.

Okay, Virginia. You have one more. I did not know this.

So we can see. Listen, it's called Repetition is the Key to Learning, and you can improve upon it.

So we'll see. But you do have one. Get ready for your one more later on.

Okay. I think we need one more.

Okay. Good to see you, Mike. Delta, how are you? Good to see you. I'll take care of Coop.

I know you will. I know you will. TJ Jefferson, candle's lit over there. What's going on, sir?

Well, candles lit as I'm feeling old. Like, five years ago, you put me in this chair and Coop came over and we were talking, and he was this tall. Yeah.

Now today, I think I've only got about a quarter of an inch on it. I don't like it. Coop, are you 6'2 yet? Is that what you're doing? I don't think so.

Okay. You're 6'1 for sure. I mean, we're going to find out on the LLR front.

So Good to see you over there, everybody. It's going to be a fun program here today on the show. Listen. Um Yesterday, we started the program by me congratulating you, TJ Jefferson. on the Dallas Cowboys.

Getting Micah Parsons back because the head coach. Brian Schottenheimer said he fully expects him back. Marvelous. Yeah.

And as it turns out, That might be what's the words for it, cockeyed optimism. Premature. Tonight, as soon as I'm done with this program, I'm heading over to NFL Network to host the evening's coverage of one big, large Friday of. Preseason football, week number three. And on NFL Network this evening.

The Falcons at the Dallas Cowboys. Yep. And in advance of that Um Jerry Jones uh went on a little media tour. With people he adores, Michael Irvin for his podcast, and Stephen A. Smith for his show.

And um He said some things. Yeah.

Mike, as you know, hasn't said anything. Radio silent.

Well, he's speaking with his Twitter account, but we'll get to that in a second. First things first. As we all know. Clarence Hill, the man who's been covering this team the longest. currently on the beat.

He told us about a month and a half ago. The Jerry and Micah met with one another. and had a talk over his contract that Jerry considered A full on negotiation. And Micah did not. 'Kay.

And Jerry considered it a fully baked negotiation. That once Micah said. Talk to my agent. Jerry balked. And never reached out to his agent, and to this day, has not had a conversation.

With David Muga Mulligetta, who is a uh Um uh an agent of note. Uh yeah. Yeah.

And um Sure enough. As much as you think. That A man in his early 80s having a conversation with a guy who is 26. about dollars and cents and structure and everything. Uh as much as you think.

That that sounds a little bit Nutty. to consider that a fully baked negotiation. You're not Jerry Jones. And he is, and he's in charge. And it appears.

This is in fact the major sticking point in this negotiation. Certainly the way he told it. to Michael Irvin and how he considered The agents' rebuffing of the notion that this was a fully baked negotiation. between the owner and player. Minus the representation.

how he's tur how I guess he termed the way The uh agent informed Jerry that That's kind of null and void. I'll drop this one thing on you because this is when we wanted to send the details to the agent. The agents told us to stick it up or Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, now, see, I was.

So you're clear. Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean?

So, so, wait, wait, what do you mean? Yeah, Mike and I talked. and then we were going to send it over to the agent. And we had our agreements on term, amount. guarantees everything.

We're going to send it over to the agent. And the agent said, don't bother. because we've got all that to negotiate.

Well, I'd already negotiated. I'd already moved off my mark on several areas. And so the issue, very frankly, is we've had the negotiation in my mind. and the agent's trying to get his nose in it. Right now, and try to come in there and improve off the mark that we'd already set.

Well, we've got this theory. You're uh resolved in my mind. for the Dallas Cowboys. And we've got it done. And if the agent wants to finish up the detail, which is should.

and do all the paperwork. And he can do that. And we're ready to go. But as far as the amount of money, the years. The guarantees, all of that, we negotiate that.

Now, I mean, how does one talk about this? Certainly, when you're talking to a large audience like we do every single day here, including in studio my 14-year-old son, we bleep out the word ass, Cooper. uh because uh anytime it's mentioned in a sentence that in Includes an assumption that something is being inserted. You got to bleep it. You know, when you Put something up.

Or you can just say it.

So the reason why though I'm lingering on Much to the chagrin of Cooper, who's not saying anything right now because he doesn't know what to say. Exactly. Thank you. Can confirm. Yes.

Is. Because That's the most important Line in the whole Shebang because that's the way. Jerry has interpreted the Agents saying, listen, just 'cause you spoke to my client does not mean this is binding in any way, shape, or form, and that these are the terms that we now, as a group, my team, Micah Parsons, must abide by. And he's viewing that statement as... Stick it up your Hi then.

Right? Yeah.

So, how do you get past that if he's the one who's going to have to make this negotiation. Happen. And He feels He's already made it happen.

Well As it was evident again the way that he termed this To Stephen A. Smith. When Micah Parsons brought his agent in, he's He's basically Making it's easier He's infantilizing Micah Parsons with this analogy. Bringing in mommy and daddy to the equation. In the spirit of not doing the old Mother-dad deal.

How many times have you seen the little rascal so clever go in there and mama told him, uh-uh, you're not going to get it? And goes in to daddy, who only sees him at after five in the afternoon, wants to love him. and says, you can have it, son. You can have that before dinner. And he goes back in and says, mom and daddy said I could have it.

That's the old mom, dad, been around since the beginning of time. I'm not going to go for that here. Hmm. That's what's happening. You're not going for it.

I'm not going for it. No, no. But we've had a very, very strong negotiation.

Now, by the way, Frankly, it wouldn't have made any difference what the negotiation was. Guess who has to be comfortable for this to work? Micah. And who else? You.

Hello. There's not room for a third. There's not room for a third. This will be a good one.

Now, um Cooper, the reason why we bleeped out that were, okay, we got it. Um. And also Cool. The Little Rascals is a television show that Mike Del Tufo and I used to watch in New York City. Did you watch Little Rascals in New York?

It was, I looked it up. Originally, a collection of short movies. involving a bunch of kids. From 1922 to 1944, so before you were born. For all of us, even me.

So, for anybody who's wondering where that references. I mean, I'm old. Come on. And so He considers Micah now wanting something else and he's running to The authority. Another authority in his life.

This guy's not making a deal. No, no. And he's putting that out there, which is why Florio, who's come on the show from Pro Football Talk and has posted about it, thinks he's just going to say. I'll take Micah Parsons and his Doesn't sacks and his Awesomeness for almost half of what Miles Garrett is going to get paid because he's under contract for it. And I don't have to add another dime to it.

Even though I did add many more dimes to it, and even improved the offer after Micah. came back and asked for it. which led him to believe that this was a negotiation. And so, I mean I guess Micah has learned in the future, although I don't know if he does find a different place of business. Um And I imagine he, you know, at some point in time might have another negotiation in his career that might not involve Jerry Jones.

Uh but he's kind of learned. The minute this Starts. Bring your agent in. And don't go and say to Jerry, hey, I've got. I've got this, I got that, and then Jerry's going to improve it so he now thinks this is something.

Even though Again, I come at it from a point of view of Would I ever have a negotiation myself? with um one of my superiors who is trying to negotiate a contract. No. Have I gone in to a superior and say once the negotiation is reached? A brick wall.

Hey, can you get this past the goal line? I have done that. I have done that. That's different. Once that negotiation occurred.

Yeah.

Once I went into the authority, And said, Can you move this past the goal line? And this individual says to me, This is what. I'm going to do I'll I'll I'll I'll do something, and it comes back through a third party. This is what's going to be done. There is no more negotiation.

That's it.

So I can see what Jerry's point of view is. Other than the fact though, I cannot imagine, again.

Somebody who's Owns the Dallas Cowboys and has been in this business so long and is so remarkably successful at it that he's got a bust in the jacket. can look and think a 26-year-old Is doing his own deal right here, and this is the end of that. And I'm going to hand this off. to the agent.

So they can dot some I's and cross some T's and go over the fine print. But everything else is handled. Like Mike is going to understand. No way. What a third-year guarantee means for injury and all this sort of stuff, and what a fourth year this is, and how much money you're going to get up front.

I don't know. And if Micah did go to Jerry and say, I want to improve this, I want to improve that. Nope. Was that coming from his agent? Where did that come up?

Well, he had a number. But the whole thing is: like, there's no other team that does it this way. No other team does it this way. You don't hear anything about this. You didn't hear, you're not even, you're not hearing from Mike Brown.

We already made a deal with Trey Hendrickson. I'm not improving it. You don't hear from them. From the Front office. management about what's going on with Terry McLaurin.

This is just It's Jerry's World, man. And Micah's response is to hold in. demand a trade. And now I guess his last move without holding out is removing all things Dallas Cowboys from his. Mm.

Social media handles. That's the. And, you know, and then post stuff of him kissing goodbye, like making the kiss goodbye thing with. I I I don't know. You know, watching the Netflix special, right?

You go back and you kind of if you didn't know these things about Jerry, you learn them or you relearn them. And he pretty much stands on business, Rich. And once I heard him say, I had a number and then I moved on. From my number kind of made me go, all right, this is. But you can't balk at the fact that the agent is just like, what are you doing?

This is not the way it's done in the National Football League. I don't care if you had this negotiation with my client. And for him to say that, you know, it all has to be comfortable is my client is comfortable and I'm comfortable. There is no room for a third. The only way the client is comfortable speaking is someone who has been a client.

is when my representative says, I'm comfortable. You should be comfortable with this. And your representation that you have, and I have that. In the uh Jerry and Ryan, agents to the stars. is whenever I have a contract, I'm like...

Are you fine with it? And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, this is what I'm not fine with. And I want a representative to basically say, you're not going to get that. Move on.

Yeah.

And That's the way it goes. Everybody I've ever negotiated understands. That I'm going to be bringing an agent into this. Exactly. And so for Jerry to sit here and go, I'm now offended.

That the kid that I'm willing to make the highest paid player in the position. Is now bringing in an agent to take a few more million out of my pocket. Shouldn't come as a surprise. It should be like Oh.

Okay. I try to slip that one past the Parsons goalie. I know it's not going to work because Micah is one of the best in the business. And this is what the resetting of the market's going to cost. And I could have gotten it done maybe a little bit sooner.

I wouldn't be in this position. He's not thinking that way. And he's getting more set in his ways, it appears. I mean, it's hard really to make a comparison, Richmond. We don't know Micah's side of the story either.

Well, I mean, we don't know what the numbers were. We don't know what was discussed. I get it. But Micah's side of the story is going to be this. Because it doesn't really matter right now what the micah side of the story is.

Because it just makes sense that, again, you're a 26-year-old, you know, the owner sits you down. You're going to be like, okay, let me talk for sure. This could be easy. Oh, what? That's a number?

That's a great number.

Okay. And we call my agent, and the agent's like, what are you doing? And then you go in and say, Jerry, I know this is, you know, you want to hear it, but can you talk to my agent, please? And you didn't think it was that provocative an act. But Again, we're assuming.

Yeah.

The side of the story for Mike is now is you're gonna play for 24 million. Or are you going to sit out? Because that's the way it appears that Jerry's stance is going to be right now, and he's not going to be like blinking. And the only way to make Jerry potentially blink on that Okay. is to sit at home.

On Thursday night's kickoff, September 4th. And you don't get on that plane to Philadelphia. and you let them play a game without you. and you go all in one. And then you have the giants coming to your house.

Maybe I won't too. And then you see what's what. Because Emmett did that. Yep. And so I don't have an answer.

And it did not have a contract. No, I understand that.

So I understand that. It's all different, different times, different errors. The man. Yeah I'm I know I've been sitting here saying Mike is going to be there. But this sounds like a very, very, very resolute Jerry Jones who considers.

Something that's already been handled. And an agent saying that's not binding or that's null and void. I I don't know if the agent really did tell him to stick it somewhere. That's the way he's viewing it. And then he's viewing it as just like a How many times, Coop, have you heard from me about something, then you go to mom?

Or you heard from something from mom and then you go to me? Have you done that before? Does this sound familiar to you?

Okay. Does it ever work for you? Um no. Normally, yeah, it never works. Yeah.

I feel like I mean, this is just like what you said, like, what if he doesn't play in week one or week two? That's the problem when people want People need to get paid. He deserves to get paid, but when you can't find a number, and then you notice, up in September now, so. What are you gonna do when you haven't been paid and it's football season, so Like, will he be traded at the deadline? I don't know.

I don't think he's going to get traded at all. No. I don't think that makes any sense until maybe next year. I think they said the Packers or the Chargers made an offer. The Packers, I believe it was.

All I've been told is that if Micah's going to be staring into the abyss and go where, you know, boldly go where few have gone before, I've heard he's the type of person who's going to do that. Wow. We shall see. Let us take a break. Colin Hanks is here, one of our favorites.

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That's O'ReillyAuto.com/slash Eisen. Colin Hanks, we just saw a clip for Nobody To is available now in theaters nationwide. We're just talking about your beard. You got a little bit of gray in it. Is that from the San Francisco Giants?

Colin Ash. See, I'm just going right in. I'm going straight for the jugular, which is somewhere behind this beard. Yes, I mean, it's definitely the Giants are just. What the hell, man?

They got Raphael Devers, and I thought, like, here we go. I think a buddy of mine on my Giants text thread said the best said, guys, calm down. It's still just, it's spring training 2026. We're just jumping ahead to spring training right now. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, it's pretty rough. Didn't you say you were, didn't you go to a game recently? I went to a game last weekend. I took my daughters, and I was sitting with Larry Bear, you know, big guy there.

So they were the good seats. And he told me that they had their, at that point, They had not lost that many home games in a row since McKinley had been president. And by the way. He's probably not exaggerating, right? No, he was not exaggerating.

The Giants have been around forever. It was fact. They hadn't lost 13 in a row at home since they were the New York Giants. Oh, my God. McKinley was president.

That's not a joke. That's an old Jenstead. That's legit. Yeah, you know, look, it's baseball is. It can be a cruel, cruel, cruel, cruel, cruel sport sometimes.

Right. And sometimes August is the worst month. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Cause I mean, you know. The Dodgers keep doing what they're doing, and the Padres are there. You need to get on the stick, right? Yeah, I know. And, you know, Devers just can't seem to, you know, I think he just needs to get this season done so that he can be comfortable and start fresh and just be like, this is where I'm going to be.

Well, he's going to. I mean, he's going to be there. That's it.

Yeah.

He's not going anywhere else. I'm really hoping that next season we're able to sort of start fresh and start new and just get all of this out of the way because it is painful to me. I know. I don't know. The team is just completely falling apart.

Completely. I know. Colin Hanks here on the Rich Eisen show. And hockey season's around the corner. I know that intrigues everybody greatly.

Yes. Right. Cannot wait. You're one of those few. The few, the proud.

Well, you Los Angeles Kings fans are very tough to. You know, keep down. You guys are nuts when it comes to that. We are. We are a vocal bunch because if we're not, you wouldn't know that we actually existed.

here in Los Angeles, at least. No, massive Kings fan. And no, I mean, incredibly, incredibly excited for the season. I mean, any time I can take someone who's never been to a hockey game To a hockey game, instant fans. Los Angeles Kings fans.

Yes. Action. Instantly.

So, yeah, no, I can't wait for this season. I took Coop. Coop, remember, we took you? I took you a couple years ago? That All-Star game?

Not the All-Star game against the Edmonton Oilers. Oh, yeah. And McDavid had like two rules. Right, and so he was wondering at the very beginning, as soon as it started. Which one's Conrick David?

And I'm like, look at the guy who's bigger than everybody else and better than everybody else. I've never watched hockey in my life and I probably won't watch it ever again. Oh, God. No, that's because you didn't go with me. You didn't come with me.

I've never been interested in hockey. Why is that, Coop? I don't know. I mean, I've never been able, I've never been able to watch it. And I just feel like.

That's my bad. And I feel like they every time it's just, and usually it's just them hitting the puck down the ice the whole time. Like, the only part that's actually entertaining is when it gets like close to the end or like overtime or when like those whenever they have like a fight at the wall, like when they try to get the stick in. He likes the grinding. Here's the thing: I'm going to take the hit on this one.

It's my fault. Yeah.

If we had it on in the house more, that would be a different situation. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But there is nothing more boring than watching Dump and Chase hockey. That is true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dump and Chase Hockey Snowgo. All right.

So exposure is a good thing. The reason why I'm wearing this sweatshirt here is because. My dad showed me Yankees stuff and he hid the um the Red Sox PJs that my aunt gave me and he put them in the trash. He said he said for like my second or third birthday, my aunt From Boston, she sent me some Red Sox PJs in my grandma too. And he's like, oh, those will never be in front of my little son.

It's called parenting. It's called parenting, Colin. You understand. Colin Hanks here on The Rich Eisen Show. Nobody 2 available in theaters right now.

How long have you known Odenkirk? Was this the first time you ever worked with him?

So we worked together on Fargo.

So, yeah, I think we saw our paths kind of connected in 2015. But I had been a fan of his for decades. Mr. Show and all that. Going back to Mr.

Show, yeah. And he was one of those guys where, you know, it's funny now, everyone sort of knows him as this big, you know, sort of like action guy, you know, from nobody or even, you know, Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul and all that sort of stuff. But when I was coming up, he was a big comedy guy. I mean, he wrote on SNL. He wrote some of my favorite SNL skits.

When I was growing up, so I had always wanted to come like go up to him and tell him what a big fan I was, but he was always so intimidating because he always looked like the kind of guy that would just start beating you to a pulp if you told him you were a fan of his.

So I specifically never went up to him and never said anything until we worked together. And then I was able to tell him what a big fan I was. And then we just would gab about, you know, all of the stuff that he wrote. And the rest of the cast, Christopher Lloyd, Sharon Stone. Yep.

I mean, what the hell? Of course. You know, Bob wrote the Superfan sketch that has one of my. Favorite lines of all time from SNL, you're talking from SNL. Yeah, the Bears.

Okay. So he wrote one of my favorite lines ever when it was talking about the Bulls winning. And I think the line is, now, you know, here we're talking, you know, we're not talking about repeat or even three peat. We're talking minimum eight peat, Bob. It is my favorite line of all time.

I thought Smigl wrote that sketch or they did. Smiggle is in it, but I think they wrote it together because I mentioned it to Bob. He's like, Yeah, I wrote that. You guys wrote that? I wrote that.

You're talking eight peat? We're talking minimum eight peat here, Bob.

So anytime a team repeats like the dreaded Edmonton Oilers this year, I was like, oh, please, Bob, let this not be a minimum eight peat. I don't, I don't want to. Middle. When is your John Candy Duck coming out, man? We're premiering in Toronto at the beginning of September, and then it'll be on Amazon, I believe, starting October 10th.

Fantastic. It's funny. We were hanging out just a few weeks ago, Colin, and You know, I said to you, you know. Uh, we had uh Brian Grazer on the show telling the story about you know how John Candy was hungover for the splash, um, for the splash scene, um, the racquetball scene. And I said, you know, you can have that video if you want.

You're like, no, it's okay. I had my dad tell the story. And I'm like, what an idiot. I just walked into that. I'm like, oh, I'm happy to give you that video.

That was so sweet of me to do that. It was so sweet of you. My video is yours, is basically what I'm saying.

Well, and we almost, we definitely auditioned the clip that you have talking with Joe Montana about the famous Super Bowl drive, where he very casually just noticed that John Candy was. just so happened to be off in the distance and it like calmed. everyone down in the hunt. Snake him from the 49ers. To play football in Canada for the Argives, but could not afford him.

Of course. That's what he said. He told us that story. It was amazing. He said, John Candy tried to.

Take away. the greatest 49er quarterback. You know, arguably, they've ever had. Lord, respect to Steve Young, right? Yep.

And And He said, no, like you can't afford me.

Now, Elvis Gerbach, on the other hand, Probably. Probably could have. By the way, that's a great pull. Thank you. That was an upstanding pull.

I appreciate that. You didn't hurt yourself with that pull, didn't you? No, no, no. No, no, I stretched beforehand. Of all the 49er quarterbacks, you could have gone there right there.

Elvis Griffith. That was well done. You could have gone Steve Bono on me. You could have done that one. But very good.

I like it. I appreciate that. All right.

Fantastic. All right.

When you first appeared on this program. When it was a podcast. When it was long, long time ago. Long, long time ago.

Okay, we go back like the proverbial Carsey. I give you the floor on how you watch football games with your father and how this idea got born, if you don't mind.

So I don't necessarily watch a lot of football with the old man, but every now and again, if I happen to be at the house or he's at my house and it's a Sunday, there's going to be some football on.

So we're sort of, we will watch. And one day we were watching, I believe it was a college football game. Charlie Weiss was the one that kicked it off, but he was looking at Charlie Weiss and he started pontificating about what kind of stepfather Charlie Weiss would be. And that kind of kicked off this game of looking at the head coach and trying to guess. What kind of stepfather are they?

Like, what is the phrase that that stepfather always says? Just based on just a photo, just based on just what the coach looks like. The cover of the book. The cover of the book. That's exactly what.

What does that stepfather say to you? We're not going deep. We're not going deep. We're just going, just looking at the person. Super, super.

Okay, so we've come up with six current. Head coaches. All right.

Yes. And let's go with our first one. pop it up here. The new head coach of the New England Patriots. Mike Vrabel is first up.

Yes. What do you got for me right now?

So, based off of this photo, I don't care. Talk to your mom. I don't care. Go ask your mom. That's it, right there.

That's it.

I don't care. Based on that photo? Right there. Yeah, he does not care. I don't care if you go to Jimmy's.

Go ask your mom. Go ask your mother. Mike Vragel, everybody. Mike Vragel.

Next one up, I believe we have the very handsome. Sean McVay, head coach of the Los Angeles Rams. There you are. What sort of stepdad would he be right there? Yeah, buddy.

He's the kind of guy that no matter what, whether you're asking him to pass the potatoes or, hey, did can you sign this for my math teacher? Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. Just pure enthusiasm, positive. Yeah, buddy.

I'm wondering if I have heard him say those words for me, by the way. I'm sure you have. Yeah, buddy. Like when I saw him last year, I'm sure before the coaches' meeting for the broadcast we did for Rams Cardinals, he might have said, yeah, I just saw him, yeah, yeah, buddy. If might have said that.

If you are ever interviewing him and he says that, I need that footage like immediately. Immediately. I might stop the interview and call you. I might text you on the spot. Yeah, buddy.

Next up, the Detroit Lions head coach. What sort of stepdad would Dan Campbell be? Oh, okay.

So this is. Regardless of what he is telling you to do, I'm not saying suggesting he is telling you. Yes. So it could be pass the potatoes. Uh go pick up that junk, whatever.

Uh it is followed by now. It does look like right there. Right. Go ask your mom now. Not later, now.

Do it now. Do you like that one, Coop? You're laughing at that. Go clean your room now. I think a good one to do is Todd Bowles.

Now you're crowdsourcing. I didn't know I was crowdsourcing.

Now we don't have that one in Professor. But that's a good one. That wouldn't be a bad one. This one, I can't wait to hear how you feel, what type of stepdad Mike McDaniel would be. And the photograph we have for the radio audience is him and his Capri pants from last year.

Okay, first off, let me just say, I love this guy. What's not to love? I absolutely love this guy. Me too. This transition that he's taken since taking over in Miami, like the before and after is just so unbelievably stellar.

And he seems like a great guy. Like that hard knocks, I was like, man.

So. His whole thing Straight up. Sup dude? All he does. Every time you come home and he's sitting there watching TV, hey, sup, dude.

That is so funny. You come downstairs into the kitchen, first thing in the morning, he's reading the paper. Sup, dudes. You bring friends home? Sup, dudes?

He's just, you know, which is different than yeah, buddy, by the way. I want to be very specific. I was going to ask you, what's the nuance? Yeah, buddy is just like that positive, just like exclamation point on anything. Like, yeah, buddy.

Yeah.

But sup, dude, it's the opener. It's the, it's the, I'm letting you know I'm cool right out the gate. Yeah, something that's it. Two more, our neighbor from across the way. We may have done this 10 years ago and.

I'm actually, yeah, when he was at Michigan. Jim Harbaugh, what sort of stepdad is Jim Harbaugh?

Okay, so Jim Harbaugh, man, I got actually a funny story about Jim Harbaugh that I wasn't prepared for, but I'll get to that in a second. Sure. This particular photo. Yes. The first thing that came to mind, and I think it sticks for everything that he does.

Is him just constantly saying, Can you do that for me? Can you do that for me? Hey, can you go clean your room? Can you do that for me? Hey, can you pass a potato?

Can you do that for me? It's a passive potato. It's like passive aggressive in a way. It's like passive aggressive. He's part judging you, but then part just exasperated.

It's just this constant thing of like, there's just too much on his plate at all times.

So can you do that for me? That's a good one. That's the kind of stepfather he is. And what's your funny story?

So my funny story is: a few months ago, I took my kids to Disneyland.

Okay. And we're sitting in line for a roller coaster, and we've been waiting in line. And as I'm about to get into the Incredicoaster, you know, the one ride that goes upside down. Yes, sir. All of a sudden, I look over and I see Jim Harbaugh with his family, I'm assuming, his kids.

And he's just sort of like hanging out with, you know, one of the guides there because he's got the VIP trivia because he's coach, Coach Harbaugh. And I'm just going, like, oh, that's cool. And then, as we, as the ride is, like, I'm locked in. Yes. And as the ride is going, he just leans over and is like, hey, Colin.

And I was not prepared at all. For Coach Harbaugh to know who I was and to be pointing at me.

So I just went, Hey, Coach, welcome to LA. And that was fantastic. That's the only interaction I've had with Jim Harbaugh. Quick story aside on that is when I was the honorary captain. Uh, for a year, okay.

And I went out for the coin toss after being there for two days, and he was throwing open the doors for me. Brockman was with me, my buddy Paul from grade school went to Michigan as well. He couldn't have been nicer, and it was now time to go out for the coin toss. And he gave me and the four captains the instructions about if we win the toss, we want to go this way. And I'm in front of 100,000 people, my head was spit.

Swimming. And we go out there, and Jake Butt, who is the tight end captain, turned to me, goes, Which way should we be going? And I'm like, I don't like, I'm the honorary captain. Like, you're the real captain. And so, and so when it was time, we lost the toss, or we won, we won the toss, and it was our decision where to go, or something like that.

And um And sort of like Enrico Palazzo, remember where he just went, strike? Like, I just went. That way. And I went back and I thought to myself, as I'm going back to the sideline, did I just screw up the one job? Literally, the one job that I had.

And Harbaugh had his hands on his knees, like already in his coaching mode, like this. And he looks at me and goes, nice ovation. Because the crowd gave, like, if you ever get warm applause from 102,000 people, it's the loudest cheer you ever had. That's so he's, oh, that's so funny. Hey, can you tell him where we want to go that way?

Can you do that for him? Oh, my gosh. Last one. Build that a check. I mean, this is the granddaddy of them all, right?

Yes, indeed, sir. This one is not so much like what he says, but it's basically this.

So. Let's pretend that you're I'm Bill Belichick, you're my stepson, and ask me if uh if it's all right if I can spend you can spend the night at Jimmy's house.

Okay. Uh hey, uh hey, dad, is it all right if I spend the night at Jimmy's house? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. He shrugs. For those listening on radio, he's not ever going to give you an answer.

He's just going to kind of look at you and shrug. He does not care. He's bothered by the fact that you're even asking the question. I mean, honestly, look at any post-game conference in which he's having to answer any stupid question, and that's kind of what, I mean, he's already telling us what kind of stepfather he is. A stepdad who shrugs.

A stepfather. Yeah.

Fantastic. He could also be one that's like, just says, like, what he always says, do your job. You can be like the best. Do your job. Do your job.

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Restrictions apply. Can you tell me the story, the famous story of you noticing John Candy in the crowd before that two-minute joke, the Bengals in your second Super Bowl win against them? Yeah, it was, you know, it was kind of funny because. As you know, TV timeouts are forever in the Super Bowl. Tell me about it.

So I had been to the sideline once, maybe even twice, and we were just standing out there waiting for the signal to start to play. I think we had the ball in the eight. And um Harris Barton was a a people person.

So we were free for dinner during the week, but practice in meetings and then come back after dinner and more meetings.

So when he would come back from dinner, he was like a little kid. He could not wait to tell you about all the celebrities he saw while he was at dinner. And so we were just standing there and between the tight end and his shoulder was. Uh frame John Candy. In the crowd.

He was on the sideline. Oh, he's on the sideline. And so I was, and I sat there and I. I looked and I go, dang, I don't remember Harris saying he saw John Candy. This is what you're thinking in the Super Bowl with minutes to go and needing to drive down the field.

Okay. Well, yeah, so I walked over and said, AH, man, there's John Candy. And Harris stood like this for eight minutes, perfectly still. He was a little bit anal that way. He would not move.

He was like a little. I didn't do it to unwind him. I just thought he would appreciate seeing John Candy. But he started mumbling some things: Super Bowl, you want your birthday, Candy. What do you know I was going to?

I don't know what he said completely. I've understood a few words, but now he appreciates it now more than he did back then before we started the drive. Did you ever meet Candy, or that was the only time? Yeah, no, I had met John a few years before that. My contract was up.

Okay. And he was, you know, one of the owners of the Toronto Argonauts.

Okay. He was trying to get me to go to Canada. Come on. Yeah.

They just didn't have enough money. But if the price was right, I might have been wearing an Argonaut. Yeah, you'd have a 55-yard line. You'd be like, I'll do that.

So he legitimately said, you know, hey, you know. Yeah, we had a couple meetings about. You did.

So this is real. Like, it wasn't just like an oh, by the way. No, no, no, no. Wow. I love that.

844-204-Rich is the number to dial. Phone lines are completely lit. We're going to take your calls in hour number two. Jonathan Vilma of Fox Sports is coming up next. I love this guy.

I love listening to him. And I can't wait for him to join us coming up in just a few minutes' time. I can't wait to get his two cents on, you know. Did Tom Benson ever once upon a time say a deal's a deal? Yeah.

You know, I don't think so. But that's coming up in hour number two, along with Cooper giving us a what's more likely. on the program.

So, um, TJ, how tall are you? I am 6'3. 6'3. Cooper You're now 6'2, I believe. I don't know.

You have to be. You went back to back with T.J. Jefferson prior to the program. Yes. Yeah, because he came around the corner.

I was like, who's this man walking right? And You're you're coop You're as tall as him. Right? Like, if you didn't have your cap on, that's why I left it on. Yeah.

Well, whenever I walked towards him, he just looks so much taller than me. And then you stepped up to him. No, no, no, no, no.

Okay, I'm not saying you stepped up. I didn't mean it that way, but you're there. And just so, in case anyone, this is fun stuff. I love making split photos from yesteryear and now.

So the fiesta that Cooper and I would love to forget. I mean, I take Cooper to the Fiesta, you know, Michigan versus TCU, that happens. I take him to the World Series, Yankees versus the Dodgers, that happens. Maybe you're the one. Yeah, we go.

We were sitting right down the right. We were sitting on the right field line. We saw the two people in the bullpen. We saw Tim Hill, Nestor Cortez. Tim Hill is this.

Guy that we picked up from the White Sox who was absolutely incredible for us this whole postseason. And then Nestor Cortez just got activated from the IL, and Aaron Boone decides to put him in. With the bases loaded, the game on the line. And the first pitch he throws was a hor It's a homer. We were sitting on the right field line.

We saw the ball carrying all the way over. We were like, there's no way. That we're gonna catch. And I told dad, I told my dad, we have to put in Tim Hill. That's the only way.

Yeah, because it does. And then in the series earlier in the year, Tim Hale struck out Freddie Freeman. Yeah.

So that must have just incensed you. Like you said, I mean, I think I cursed for us both, and then we did the only thing that we could do. We ran to our car. By the way, we were the first ones out of the stadium. We were.

No question. But the reason why I bring this up is at that game for TCU, we were on the field and we met Blake Coram, who was one of our favorite Michigan Wolverines of all time. He was on crutches. He couldn't have been nicer. And that was, I believe, the last day of 2022.

Then Coram plays 2023 and then gets drafted. And on the right is where we saw him last year. Oh, my God. That is crazy. Yo.

And that's about 19 months apart. That's great. I've not That's you, Coopy Doo on the left. You love the split pictures, especially the first wheel ones. I love taking pictures in the same situation.

And I told, because I knew the way you were standing at the Fiesta Ball, I had you guys flip around so it could be the same thing. He's a grown-ass man, is basically all I'm saying. Jonathan Vilma's one as well, coming up next on the show. Talk about stepping up! It's time to level up your game, introducing the all-new ESPN app.

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