This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance, fiscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to Progressive and save hundreds. Because Progressive offers discounts for paying in full, owning a home, and more. Plus, you can count on their great customer service to help you when you need it.
So your dollar goes a long way. Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states or situations.
Hey, y'all. Welcome to another Monday episode of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. I am the heel that you love to hate, O. Shea Jackson Jr., aka Petty Guerrero. Hey, yo, it's me.
It's me. It's the T-Dou, the J-I-G-G, two Jigger, TJ Jefferson, and I'm rocking a Kenny Omega shirt today. I just Kenny Omega. I want everybody to know that. Shout out to Kenny Omega.
I'm a big gamer. That's why I will always respect Kenny Omega, bro. You know what I'm saying? You see him? You know what it is.
Man, TJ? You and Kenny gotta get together one day because I don't. I might not even be on that show because you guys are going to geek out about it. I got to nerd out, bro. I'm just going to sit here.
I got to nerd out with Kenny O'Manner. Talk about Super Techmobile. Shabo Jackson. TJ, I am fresh off the plane. Let them know.
Let them know what you've been going on. Under 15 hours late. Compared to when I was supposed to be in Los Angeles, I have had the worst traveling experience that I have ever had. Five hours in a Detroit airport just to hear my flight get canceled with my younger brother Sharif. He had the worst experience of his life.
So we had a delayed flight that got delayed to the point where we got our flight canceled. Then they pushed us to an 8.30 in the morning one. And the hotel we were at was 45 minutes away.
So we got to make sure that we up nice and early because traffic is going to be there. Then when we get there, oh, also on the way leaving, we were like, do we get our bags? I'm like, well, if you want to get your bags, it's probably going to be two to three hours.
So you should, are your bags are going to be in a safe place and they'll travel with you.
So then the next day, bam, go to the airport. Another delay. The plane is delayed again.
So we're like, okay, you know what? As long as Denver's not delayed, I'll be able to get here at a good time. Yeah, good time.
So then we're delayed. We get to Denver. From Denver, we find out our bags are not with us. Our bags. Traveled without us.
So I still got to figure that out as soon as I get there. I came right here from the airport. I still got to figure that out. And then.
Now, when we get to Denver, we're at gate 51. We look on our Delta app and we find out that we're going to be leaving from gate 51.
Now, if the plane that just landed was delayed, that means that the next flight is going to be delayed.
Some more. But we weren't the next flight. It was a flight to Atlanta.
So we had to wait for them and wait for that delay. And then finally, the flight to Los Angeles, only 20, only 20 minutes longer than what I was supposed to be.
So I'm thinking, all right, a little 20-minute delay is nothing. We get in the plane. Uh Sorry to inform you, everybody, but we're going to have to do some maintenance real quick. And so now I am on the tarmac for an hour. Plus Yeah, but you want that maintenance done though.
I mean, at this point, I'll run. And, like, dude, it was, it was terrible. I had three delays cause me to get here at a terrible time. But by the grace of the Lord. Won't he do it?
I'm here. And I'm here to talk about. TNA. But I got a question after all that. But did you die?
A little bit. Listen, bro, God is good all the time. And all the time, God is good. I'm here. Gonna squeeze out this episode.
I'm sorry, D'Lo. It's not my fault. And, Delta, I love y'all. I'm a diamond member. But I'm going full white man when I get to the house.
Now, there was a lot that happened last night. Not only with myself, but with total non-stop actors. Yeah, TNA Slammiversary. Yes, sir. Last night, man.
I saw you on Twitter. I saw you on Twitter. It's rare for me to say I saw you, though. Yeah, because I normally, when I barely tweet because no one, literally, nobody pays attention to anything I tweet. Like, I do.
I got a couple thousand followers, not a lot, but a little bit. But, like, literally, I get no interaction.
So, I barely even bother going on Twitter after I got, you know, suspended. I got. People don't know I got booted off of Twitter. I got kicked off of Twitter. Let me just talk about this real quick: of all the people that go on Twitter and spark up insurgency and racism and riots and all this stuff.
Me, the guy who don't curse on here, the guy who. You know, I'm pretty even killed. I got banned from Twitter for two years. Thanks to zone. That's why I don't F with y'all.
But yeah, I went on Twitter because something happened at Slammiversary that did not sit well with me at all. A lot of people. Let's just cut to the chase. Cut to it. And I'm going to say this because you know I'm a Masha Slamovich fan.
Yeah. I've told you this. I've explained it to you. I think I've turned you into a little bit of a Masha Slamovich. You put me on game.
So for this whole TNA NXT partnership, you're expecting maybe.
something that looks like you know uh it An equal partnership. Partnership, right? And it doesn't seem that that's the case whatsoever.
Now, I have no problem. Maybe, like I said, again, this is a personal thing. We love Trick Williams. That's our dude. We're in the group chat with Trick.
You know what I mean? I call Trick as being a star when he was still playing the heavy for Mello, right?
So to see him rise and to see him. Become the performer that he has and what he's, you know, the titles that he's won and everything. I'm, I'm, dude, I'm excited for Trick, and the sky's the limit, I hope.
So I'm okay with Trick Williams winning the TNA world title as a member of NXT because Trick has been positioned as someone who's a top guy. Yeah. Having And look, I I I don't like disrespecting No. Athletes. And, you know, I'm on a national sports talk show.
A lot of people have no problem disrespecting athletes. I personally, I try not to be one of those people. I like I respect people who do things that I can't do, who do things that I've dreamt of doing, right? But that being said, sometimes there are decisions that, like, It just, it baffles you. Yeah.
Having JC Jane. Not only defeat Stephanie Vicerre. Not only defeat Jordan Grace, but also defeat Masha Slamovich to not only be. The NXT women's champion, but to now be the new TNA knockouts champion. I don't know, man.
It was just. Based upon how she was positioned, based upon, in my opinion, being the third member of Toxic Attraction to maybe even being the third member of Fatal Influence. I don't know. Like I said, I'm a Fallon Henley fan too, as you know. I just, the move just didn't make sense to me honestly.
And that's not you going at the person. No. That is how a character has been presented to you over time. It doesn't make sense to end up where you think. It is right now, yeah.
And that's that's fair criticism when this hits YouTube. Of course, you're gonna get so many people that are telling me I'm wrong and like she deserves it. And they've been a fan. I gotta be honest with you, I can't ever remember anyone clamoring and being that big of a fan until recently. And now, all of a sudden, all these people are gonna come out the woodwork and tell me and you that we're crazy.
But I'm just saying, from a matter of storyline perspective, man, it's kind of like I told you what my problem with the Death Riders was. Yeah, because Marina Schaffer, who I know is a pro fighter, but had never been positioned as a In the women's division, she's never been presented as a problem, right? She's never been presented as a threat. And now all of a sudden she's in like... The biggest group in the company, and just murking and choking out some of the biggest men stars.
You know who I am.
So that just didn't make sense to me. And this doesn't make sense to me. And it feels like at that pay-per-view. At that pay-per-view for all this to go down. Stings a little bit.
You know, and we obviously people have heard me talk about how much fun and how welcoming and how much we love TNA. I've been a TNA fan for years, Shay. Like, when people say that, oh, AEW got me back into wrestling, I always say those people. Do you not know that And they existed, and they had some incredibly talented performers, and they put on some great matches and some great cards. Like, I wouldn't spend a whole hour watching the beautiful people entrance.
You know what I'm saying? Shout to Angelina Love, shout out to Belvin Sky. But, and I would say, well, TNA was always there. ROH Ring of Honor was always there. Did you not even give them a chance?
Like, I don't know.
So, maybe I'm a little protective of TNA, especially because, like you said, they invited us, they treated us right. Got to watch a whole show from Gorilla, which was a whole new experience. I just, I don't know, man. It just seems to me like maybe they're getting the short end of this stick. And I don't have a dog in the fight, right?
I don't work for either company. I am just a super duper wrestling fan, man. And it just seems to me that, like, I don't know. This partnership is one-sided. Yeah, you know, and There were there were plenty of um you know plenty of of good things about the the pay-per-view.
I know my man A.J. Francis took a I hope AJ's knees is all right today. Bro, man, that ladder shot. To the nuts.
Well, that and then the moon saw. The moon saw. By the way, shout out Nick Nameth. You tried to catch him. Yeah.
AJ is a big, big dog, though. Coming at you, man. Coming at you. Shout out, but hopefully he's all right. Like I said, look like the knees were just like a little cold plunge.
And then he took another one out the ring onto the ladder. Like AJ's doing the most. He said he's the best big man. He's trying to show you. Multiple times he told me.
He's trying to show you. But yeah, it just. And with everything that TNA as a company has been through, there was a, bro, they were holding on by a thread. At in at some point, and with you know, throughout the years, and now they have come back in this resurgence, and now this partnership, and now. people are looking at them like they were it was the wrong decision But there's something in me that feels like, and I tweeted this.
If both of their titles went to NXT. The next episode of TNA has to be a call of the troops. I need people slapping each other's helmets because we're about to go in. And I'm talking full-on invasion. We're not trying to be nice no more.
It was all cool. Everybody gets a promo off. You got our property, both of our big boys. Yeah. You got them both.
And we, TNA, as a company, as a brand, as a squad, as a team. Need to do anything and everything to get them back because you are. You have no home. Your home has no door, has no trophy. You're just there exercising if y'all don't have the biggest prize in either division.
So, this looks like a call to arms. And I need, as a fan, as a consumer, they put you in a position where now you. You gotta see what they do next. And business-wise, that's good business. But from right now, y'all are beaten.
And you need to stand up for yourself. Pick up a chair, something. A kendo stick.
Something. But, and I get it. In the big scheme of things, someone's going to look at the attendance last night, see that that was the most fans that they've had. AJ coming back. AJ coming back, you know, and you're going to say like more people are now talking about TNA.
When you look at like the business side of it, I'm sure all of that is real, right? But I'm not one of these people that checks the Nielsen numbers, right? I don't look at the rate. I don't work for Nielsen. You know, I ain't got one of those black boxes.
You know, I can only look at things through the eye test, right? And as a wrestling fan, and I'm going to like put this back in the day when we didn't have internet like access. If I'm just a fan and I'm sitting there. I'm reacting the way I'm reacting. Like, what is going on?
Like, how are you? How are you paid to talk about it?
So, you're going to talk about it. You know what I mean? Like, walk in your trap, take over your trap. And that's what they did. They took over the trap.
So, TNA's got to, like, I don't know what to do. They got to slide for the titles. Come on, man. You got to slide for the titles, TNA. And we love NXT.
This has been the hub for NXT. Constantly, but you gotta, bro, you gotta go get your lick back. You gotta go get it back, TNA. And that's the thing. We are NXT friendly.
We're TNA. MLW. We're friendly with everybody. But we're watching you. But just like the legend of Billie Jean, right is right.
Fair is fair. You know what I'm saying? And just like the legend of Billie Jean, she wanted money for her brother's scooter. You know, we want TNA to like get a little bit of comeuppance. No.
When you were just l When you were just listing right there of everybody we friendly, To I heard you say MLW. I did mention them, yes. MLW. You know who I know somebody from MLW. Yeah, we know a few people.
We went to that. Yeah, but I mean, an actor friend of mine, and I think I forgot to let them know that. Today on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. We will have paul. Paul, Walter, Hauser, on the pod.
Stingray. Yeah, bro. He's gonna. That dude knows his stuff. Knows his stuff.
He's funny as hell. And he's a good buddy of mine. He's an incredible actor, too. Man, he's so talented. Dude, he's sick.
Yeah. He's got trophies. He also got a title. I think it's safe to say he's probably one of the best character actors. I don't think a character actor is a term.
No, no, the character actor. I've once been told by a friend of mine who's an actor that he'd rather be a character actor because it gives him a chance. To You know, really test different boundaries and go different levels and go places that he normally wouldn't get to go.
So, yeah, he's definitely one of the best in the game, man. I don't even think that's a question. Yeah, man. And we got. I mean Should we get to that?
Might as well, because you know, if you let me talk more about this, I'm gonna offend somebody, and I don't really want to offend nobody. I'm just I want justice for Slamovich, justice for Slamovich, don't make TJ have to slam a vic, but here. is our interview with Paul Walterhauser. Ladies and gentlemen, fans of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. As promised, we have here a multi-time award winner.
Yes, sir. Got a SAG Award. I don't have one of those because Spotlight won. But we'll get to that later. What, Emmy?
I got the Emmy and the Globe, but I actually don't have a SAG Award. The only SAG Award I'm winning is these sagging male breasts. Oh, that is the only. Thank God you don't have one. I mean, I don't have a Globe or an Emmy.
I didn't. I got nominated for best ensemble. That's what you got nominated for, right? Yeah, exactly. And describing that.
The Five Bloods. Oh, okay. Anyway, thanks, Mark Ruffalo. Even the safest drivers still encounter unsafe conditions, so it's important they do it in a safe vehicle. And Hyundai's offer available class executive advanced safety features to help keep you protected against the many challenges the road throws your way.
Basically, in a Hyundai, you can drive as safely as possible and enjoy your journey in confidence and style. When you change lanes, signal check for traffic and enjoy the added safety of Hyundai's available blind spot view monitor. Constantly scan for dangers and take advantage of Hyundai's standard forward collision avoidance assist to help prevent accidents by alerting you of imminent collisions and automatically applying the brakes. Stay alert at all times and be thankful that Hyundai's standard driver attention warning system monitors your attention levels and can bring your focus back on the road. Safety is all about making the right decisions on the road and when selecting a vehicle.
Learn more at hyundaiusa.com. Call 562-314-4603 for details. This episode is brought to you by Navy Federal Credit Union. Navy Federal can help you find and finance the right vehicle with ease. And this summer, you're in the driver's seat with savings.
You could get a $250 bonus when you buy your next car through Navy Federal's Car Buying Service powered by TrueCar and finance with Navy Federal. With this tool, you can find the vehicle that's right for you as you search through inventory and compare models. And you can get an amazing rate when you finance with Navy Federal. Navy Federal strives to support all active duty veterans and their families to achieve their personal and financial goals. And this partnership with TrueCar is one of the many tools Navy Federal uses to help its members.
Make your plan with Navy Federal and TrueCar today. Navy Federal Credit Union, our members, are the mission. To qualify for the $250 bonus, car purchase and financing must be completed by September 2nd, 2025. Terms and conditions apply and are available at NavyFederal.org slash true car. Credit and collateral subject to approval.
Navy Federal is insured by NCUA. Ladies and gentlemen, Paul Walter House. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
What's up, bro? Clapping for you, dude. Fan of your work, legitimately. Thank you. Loved your work in Compton and Long Shot and Cocaine Bear.
Cocaine Bear is always the one where I'm like.
Now you got a franchise with with DOT. It's um It's very cool to see you earning your stripes and doing your own thing. Thank you, man. You have been my spirit animal as far as wrestling goes, because, like, we're both living our dreams, man. Yeah, but like, you are in the shits, bro.
Like, you get to, like, you go hard, right? And you've earned this level of respect from wrestling fans.
So, like. What's the thought process of, you know, yeah, yeah. had all these films in the tank, you know, Richard Jewell being like the The one I think that everyone has jammed into their minds. And then you deciding, you know what? Square circle.
Well, I mean, we were not that far in age, right? I'm probably between you guys' ages. I was born in 86.
So, like, a lot of the same references. When I was a kid growing up in Saginaw, Michigan, wrestling was massive. You know, when I'm 10 years old, it's 96. Hogan's turning heel. Shawn Michaels and Brett Hart are fighting.
Like a lot of things are happening in 96.
So, like. wrestling on trampolines or like Doing backyard wrestling, that was a very big thing when I was a kid. Oh, man.
So we would mess around and do that. And it was mostly like the lamest thing imaginable. You hit him with a cookie sheet. Oh, you suffocating him with a teddy bear. Like the dumbest stuff ever.
But like. Just that little bit of whatever. I always wanted to try wrestling. I was like, I have to. I knew I wasn't going to get there athletically.
I wasn't like, I played sports, but not well. I was like. I was like barely a Mike Bibby. You know what I mean? Like I was on the team, but I wasn't.
You said barely. I wasn't even a Steve Kerr. I was like. What would I I was like, Jed Bushler? I was a Jeb Butchler for sure.
Okay. But with but with uh But with maybe some luke-longly facial features. But I just was like, if I'm going to become an actor, maybe I'll make it big enough to where you get to do a match or something. Because at the time, Will Sasso had a run-in with Bret Hart on WCW. Yeah.
Obviously, we had seen a couple personalities come in and do stuff in wrestling. And what happened was, I got asked to.
Well, for one, I stayed with Diamond Dallas Page. I stayed with Page at his house for. I think seven weeks when I was training for Blackbird.
So I did this show on Apple where I played Serial Killer, and I had to drop weight. I was like, I don't look enough like the guy.
So I dropped 35 pounds in seven weeks with the help of DDPY and just a crazy diregimen. I mean, like Dallas found like like Reese's peanut butter cuffs in my trash can was like, We're gonna talk about this. Like, you're in trouble with your dad or something.
So, like, I lost that weight, but while I was in Georgia, Living with Dally. I made friends with these local wrestlers. It was Anthony Igogo, who wrestled for All Elite, and my buddy Darian Bankston, who's mostly on the Indies, but has popped up here and there in GCW and ROH and stuff. And they were like, Do you want to get in a ring? Like, you should get in a ring.
So I went to Sting Cinematic Match, the first one back. Yeah. Um And Dallas surprised me with it as like a gift to me. It was the coolest thing ever. And he's like, go take a bump, bro.
Get in the ring. And I'm like, I'm not going to get in the right. Tony Conn is right there. Sting's over here. Ricky Saints.
Like, I'm not going to look like an idiot in front of these guys. Yeah. You like that self-edit on Ricky Saints? God, I am so good. We interviewed him a few months ago and I called him Starks twice.
How dare you? I'm glad you brought that up because I was definitely going to make me bring out stuff about you. All right. But I was like, I'm not going to do that and be disrespectful. Dallas goes, they don't care.
Get in the ring. So I just did the littlest tiny back bump. And I showed the footage to you earlier. I was like, the tiniest flat back.
Something magical happened. And I've talked about this. I haven't talked to that many wrestlers about this. I want to know what their version of it was, but I had a crazy moment where the sound I've heard my whole life-that crashing sound of the boards with the spring on the metal with the tiny bit of foam. I felt it as I heard it.
For the first time.
So that sound, it may as well be a neighbor to you. It lives in you. The same way, like you know, the Wilheim scream or dude's music or something, you know, like.
Something clicked and I just went, oh, I'm doing it. It didn't hurt as much as I thought it was going to hurt either. I thought it was going to hurt like a. The worst thing ever. Yeah.
And after having 18 matches or whatever I've had, some things hurt like hell. But I got enough fat on my back and enough stupid in my head that I could take it. And I was like, I think I can do this if I try.
So I took some classes and trained. for three hours at Cody's School, Nightmare Factory.
Some of his guys were kind enough to show me the ropes, literally, figuratively. And then I made friends with Paul London, and Paul London, former WWE superstar. Yeah. Uh, he took me under his wing and like we started working out in LA together. And that's great.
And Sammy Callahan, who now works at TNA, he was running a show for his promotion called Wrestling Revolver. And he said, Hey, we're doing a show to raise money for you know the wildfires of Maui. You want to come do something? I thought he meant like. Take pictures of Cobra Kai fans or something, right?
He's like, Do you want to do a match? and I'm like. Do I want to do a match? Yeah. Uh Does Trump like 12-year-olds?
So I was so excited, dude. Does Snyder hate the three ninjas? I'm just trying to pull out references now of evil men I know from my best. I'm a big three ninjas, Stan. Shout out to Three Ninjas.
If you don't know, Colt, Tumtum, Rocky, three dedicated young men who learned the craft of martial arts. And then they used it for good. Of course, now they're working at HR block or something, but at the time it was very influential for their community. I had my first match at the time of my life, and nobody could stop me.
So that's my ish. I'm not trying to be like Logan Paul. I can't be Logan Paul. He's an incredible physical specimen. He's a.
massive superstar globally. Uh, props to him and what he's doing, but I'm doing more the thing of like I'm going to a 400-seat place and getting paid a few hundred bucks and uh getting hit with a chair. Like, I'm doing the real. Can I swear on this? Yeah, shit.
I'm doing the real shit, is what I'm calling it. I'm doing the real shit. And maybe it'll get there someday where I'll be really good and I'll do a acai moonsault. But for now I'm doing back suplexes and Boston crabs. Makes living the dream, bro.
So we talked about it. Would you ever do it? Shoot! Hell yeah. Yeah.
I'm just waiting for Dennett Thieves 3 so I get my RB body. But then after that, yeah, I'm going. One is Den of, by the way, that's a great sequel to Den of Threves. I said that during the interview because I said it on accident and I've been rocking with it ever since. But yeah, Den of Thrives.
Yeah, we have trying to. What's my man's name? Where's my dirty cop roll in that movie, bro? When do you? Bro, I'll talk to Goudagas today.
When do you and me get to do our heat moment with Pacino De Niro and Dino? Two dudes who are trying to do a monologue, but secretly they're thinking about the food in front of them. I'm so down. I don't know where he's going to locate it. There's been whispers of.
Countries where you would stand out. That's all I'm going to say about that. Countries where they don't serve seconds.
Okay. Um I am Budapest. We're talking about Budapest. I have been given an invite. To extend to you.
You both know any MLW show, we would love to have you guys anytime to come chill. But Corp Bauer texted me before I came on and he said, Let O'Shea know if he wants to. get in any sort of ring shape whatsoever. and do uh the battle riot next year in 26. We'd love to have them.
Oh, so just so you know, no contest wrestling exclusives. Just so you know, the invite is there. We'd love to have you.
Okay. I know you got family, you got jobs, you got this. You're busy, but just know it's there. All right. If you need a motivator, okay.
Yeah. Because we went to battle. Is that yeah, yeah, that's what we went to. Thank you for coming, man. That was great.
We got some cool. Actually, I know D'Lo's going to kill me for being this late, but I'll we can post the pictures of uh that we have of you. Oh, yeah, the um because we actually used them in the video. We got the video, the slow-mo video is like the only one people watch. I got you, bro.
I got you. That was fun.
So, Paul, going back to when your love of wrestling started, who were your guys as a kid? Like, who were the guys who had to get the dolls and the action figures? And who were the ones that you wanted to see? I mean, as a little kid, I think you're usually attracted to the baby faces. I don't think that's.
Any secrets?
So like um Early on, it was Hulk Hogan and Sting when I was a little kid, but more so Sting. I liked. I like that sting wasn't in your face all the time. There was something about like... I don't know.
Like, sometimes I'm trying to equate it to like hip-hop or something.
Some dudes are just in your face too much. Like, there are some stars, I won't say their names, but some people, it's like they're on a commercial, then they're hosting a game show, then they're starring in a movie. A little oversaturated. Yeah, it's like, chill out. Yeah.
Do things you do really well. Don't just be a money gobbling. whore as it were.
So like Hogan kind of felt like a a bit of a whore. And uh I too feel that Hogan is a whore. Same season. Yeah. We'll get to that later.
I got invited to go watch that real American wrestling thing. Yeah. I was like, nah. I'm too busy.
Well, maybe in the future. Nah, I'm going to be busy forever. You reckon with the I'll be washing my hair?
Sorry. There's a SWAT team at my door. I got to go. No, but I loved Sting because he had like the superhero vibe. Good guy, not oversaturated to me.
And then, of course, the lineage of like good guy too. Dark. hero state and go through the NWO thing and then The longevity of that dude is just crazy. But you know what? I loved technical wrestling too.
Like, even as a little kid, 10, 12 years old, I loved watching Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero, Brett Hart. Owen Hart, like I was all about seeing a good match. I didn't need the bells and whistles. I did want to watch good wrestling. Understand that.
What about you guys? See, for me, you know, my big brother introduced me to wrestling. You know, my older brother, also in 86, He's the one who Put me on. And it was through video games, through Sega Genesis. WWF Raw was the game showing me Razor Ramon, Undertaker, Doink the Clown, you know, just like showing me all these guys.
Was it the arcade one?
Well, it's at home on the Sega Genesis, but it's that same one that's in the REAL. Yeah, I love that one. And so, you could like make Undertaker shoot, you know, off his hand. Joey has like a giant mallet. Yeah, could have like low-key powers.
And yeah, from there, he was like, he was like, you know, we can watch this. He didn't know Hogan as a good guy. Yeah, I didn't know. He didn't know there was a WWF Hogan. My first grasping Hogan, he was already in the NWO.
So I was like, whoa, he was with. WWF And then it was like, so who, I thought you said this guy's name was Razor Ramon. My brother's like, yeah, well. Yeah, he's Scott Hall here. What do you mean Scott Hall here?
He's good to get smart enough to the business really quick, man.
So, you know, we. We started, you know, watching every week. Uh from there. Um I remember It being such a big deal. That Carl Malone and Dennis Rodman are going to wrestle.
We talked about that for a minute. That was insane. That was insane. It was huge. That was insane.
And, like, as a kid, you love wrestling. You love the NBA. And it's like these two things are somehow coming together. Like, what is going on? Yeah.
And that. You know, that's kind of when. It hit that like you don't have to be a wrestler. You know, to get an opportunity. Yeah.
Because, like, I mean, it's Dennis Rodman. You know, it's Carl Malone. I remember Carl Malone opened up his wingspan during the match. Yeah, I remember. And they were like, it's like a condor.
I was like, yeah, dude. Like, those moments. Yeah, those moments right there are, you know, my childhood and growing up. And then when I started watching it every week, it was. What 99 into the 2000s, talking to everybody at school.
You know, if you didn't know what happened on Raw or you didn't know what happened on when SmackDown was on UPN, shout out UPN, rest in peace. That was a real issue. You were a weirdo if you didn't. You weren't a real fan? Yeah, no, no, no, no.
It was just that culture. It was like water cooler talk if you were between the ages of 10 and 18. Yeah, you got it. But The Rock was my guy. My dad actually one day picked me up from school without my knowledge, took me to lunch with The Rock.
And I was so starstruck. I couldn't say shit. Like, nothing would come out because I couldn't believe it over again. He was just there. And then when he paid for his food, I stole his change.
He stole the tip. Yeah, I stole it. Yeah. Not the tip, but like the lady brought back the change. And like.
I took a quarter. She kept bills. Because you wanted a piece of The Rock's money. I needed that. And it's still in a sandwich bag in my mother's safe.
That's wow. Yeah, bro. I've got my dirty ass school shirt that he signed. Yeah, dedication right there, man. Bro, dedication, bro.
Yep.
Now, remember, Buff Bagwell gave me the two sweet to my fingers when I was front row at Nitro in 97. Were oh, by the way, you heard what happened to Buff? I watched the video. I'm a big fan of Maven Huffman's YouTube page. I think it's tremendous.
Shout out to Buff Bagwell. If anyone doesn't know, he cleaned up his life, man. Yeah, leg amputated, unfortunately, but he seems to be in great spirits. I know his girl Stacey. She does DDPY all the time at Dallas's, and she's a good.
Wonderful woman, good spirit, loves the Lord, like the kind of woman. That like you're happy that they're settling down and like living real life, not what he thought was life, which we've all been there. Yeah, man. Now, I I know you when you Took that first bump, and you heard the sound and you felt it. That sounds magical.
I need to know. You haven't seen the clip, though, because he showed me a clip, which hopefully we might. A little bit. You might have seen it. Did I text you my trailer for my documentary?
Yeah. Yeah. That's how it was where he, Paul, takes the bump. Lays it for a second, rolls out, and it's like, oh, yeah, I'm doing this. Yeah, this is it.
Like, I'm doing it. Wasn't like, it was like, oh, that hurt. It was like, nah, nah. But let's talk about how delusional some of these dreams and things can be sometimes. Like What are Doesn't matter who your dad or auntie or best friend or anybody are.
How hard is it to break into Hollywood? to get any role at all. Statistically, to book a commercial, to book five lines on how I met your mother. To get into a movie. And then what are the statistical odds on staying in the business?
and then being a success and working with the likes of Charlize Therone, Margot Robby, Gerard Butler, Liam Nisa. It's like. It's a little crazy, bro. It is a little crazy. A lot of it's right place, right time.
It must be advantageous and whatever. But, like, and I'm a God guy, so like, I got to give it up to fate too and be like, there's stuff in my lap that I did not know was on the menu. Absolutely. But. That's how I look at wrestling.
I cannot disqualify myself just because I look. Like a schlubby comedy guy. I still know how to run the ropes. I can still take bumps. I'm not afraid of blood.
I'm willing to learn. We saw that. Like, not afraid of heights. Yeah. Not at all.
Yeah, well my question about what you guys do is like Acting has to be probably the toughest profession in the world because think about it. Not everyone's seven feet tall, right?
So not everyone can throw a ball 90 miles per hour, but literally everyone has the ability. To be placed in front of a camera and be an actor. Whether you're good at it or not, it's a whole nother situation. But anyone can, in theory, do it.
Now, can you be good at it? Like I said. Yeah, another story, but like, yeah, anyone can in wrestling. I'm just trying to refine it and get better.
Sorry, you had an actual question, yeah. But I'm just real quick on what you said: there's so many times where, like, that, especially that first week in my trailer with the size, and I'm like. Boy, they picked the wrong guy, dude. Like, oh my God, like, how am I going to remember all this? Do I really know the character?
And I start like, the wheels start going. And then once I get my feet wet, I'm like, oh. Oh, yeah, we're good. Like, yeah, I'm good. I got this.
I can handle this. And then by week two, week three, you got to film it to it. Yeah, I'm in pocket.
So, like, even if you are in the business, you question it because there's still that part of you that wasn't in the business. I feel like. But then when you turn it on, you turn it on. But what I wanted to ask you. What was your welcome to wrestling moment where you were like?
Alright yeah, that that uh that hung a little bit. I love the Welcome to Wrestling moment. That's so good. Because you know exactly what that means when you hear it. For me, it was um I've had a few welcome to wrestling moments that were not self-induced.
They're just kind of like, ooh. I think. I think one of them was uh One of them was One of them was in a match with. It was a battle riot a year ago.
So, not the one you guys went to, the one before that. This buddy of mine, he goes under the name Mr. Thomas, he wrestles. He's probably six Six, maybe six, seven with his boots on. Wow.
Dude is built like... No one I know. Maybe we can pull up a photo of him, but Mr. Thomas is a big dude. And his hands are that of.
you know, probably an uh an NBA like uh Power forward. Power forward. And he chopped me within the first minute, I think, that I was in the ring. I got my little, got my shit in. And then I turned, he chopped me so hard.
And I sold it, but I didn't really have to sell. It hurt a lot. It was the hardest I'd ever been chopped. And what I love about him, which I love the guys that don't take it easy, he came back and he goes, I need to do that again. Like, I need to.
And I was like, It hurt like hell a second time, but it was very much a welcome to wrestling moment of, like, yeah, we're doing this dance, and I know you're in whatever movie, but like, you're now one of the boys. Yeah. And I've had a couple of those.
Sometimes. It feels like when a younger guy does it, it feels like it's. Like an F you. Yeah. When an older dude does it, it feels like we're homies.
Yeah. I don't know why, but there's just something about it. Yeah. It makes sense. He's trying to test you.
Yeah, I'm buddies with Bobby Fish, but like that dude kicked me in the face one time. I thought I broke my jaw. Like I immediately just went, I just went. Yeah. It just like took a minute because I'm like, damn, dude.
Well, speaking of that, have your team, your acting team, have your people. I'm about to say that. Question: Have they tried to get you to not do this? Because, you know, you can take you out of bed. I think you added your other job for a while if something goes.
Straight. I was a CAA for like for like six or seven years. Had a good run there. And one of the agents there was like, please, like. Please be careful, don't do this.
Text me or call me after every match. Yeah. But my manager, this dude Brian Walsh, who I call out. on stage when I say get the tables because that's like one of our inside jokes. Walsh is like, you can't stop him.
Like, you're never going to stop. Like, just let dude do it and hope to God he's smart. And, and, uh, so, yeah, the people that really know me, they know not to get in the way. Yeah. Um, cause they're, cause I'm no one is stopping me unless God stops me and is like, hey, this is called spinal stenosis.
Your fat ass can't do this anymore. That will be different. Yeah. But, uh, but we haven't gotten there yet. You know, yeah, I, man, I'm grateful.
That uh Sam Leon, my age, she does not watch the pod.
Okay. Because, man, I could hear the call now. You better not fuck. Can do it. I'm getting here.
I took that Jeff Jarrett guitar shot on All Elite. Yes. And. You know, I sold it like I got shot with a shotgun, you know. And my manager and agent knew that I was doing something in the ring and they knew it would be physical, but they both were just like, Is he getting up?
So, like 45 seconds, minute and a half. I'm still selling. They're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you know the CJ, but I go through it quite a bit in the first dinner.
Yeah, you got beat up a little bit, man. Yeah, but I would have to look at my older brother and uncle and give them a. You know, if I don't do, if I don't wink, they're like, it's. All hell broke loose. They got in the AD's face.
Like, it was pretty wild that first Dennathy. Shout out to Christian. But yeah, if you don't give that wink, that that athlete... Thumbs up. Yeah.
Bro, Spurt. They're ready to go. My first movie, I missed. We're doing us. A very clumsy fight scene, the kind of thing you'd see in a Cohen brother movie where it's like more funny than serious.
But it's me and a bunch of these like younger kids. It was called Virginia. It was the first movie I ever booked. I went to be a background extra and I ended up getting like I was number six on the call sheet or something. Crazy story.
But We're doing this fight scene, and we've done seven, eight takes in a row. And when we reset, it's literally just me going back into the car. Having my face dabbed for sweat. Yeah. And they go right into it because they're trying to get the light.
And like it's dawn.
So we're going one after another. This one was 330. pounds i think so this is like seventy pounds ago or whatever Eighty pounds ago. I'm getting tired. Yeah.
and on the ninth take, The blocking was off and I knew it. And so I tried to do a wrestling thing where I'm supposed to get thrown against a car by this other actor. His name's Alex Frost. He was in Drillbait Taylor and Elephant. There's a wrestling name.
Alex Frost. Alex Frost would be an NXT guy who's just going like when he comes out, he just goes. This is my gimmick. This is my gimmick. Fabulous Alex Frost.
What's your gimmick? You hit your chest twice, then you go like this. The real McCoy, Alex Frost. But he throws me against the car, and I know the blocking's off.
So, I'm like, I'm not going to make it to the car. I'm just going to hit the car with my hand and then sell it like I hit my head because of where the camera was.
So, I'm trying to do some wrestling stuff with the metal chair to the head. Oh, it hit his head. Yeah, right. And I fall forward. And my hand is on the car, so I have like an athletic like lineman injury where I strain my shoulder and it goes back like that.
I fall to the ground and I try improvising and I just yell. I go. Cut. I called my own cut. Oh, my cut is grace.
I knew I was going to the hospital. Yeah, this is good, folks. And did you? Yeah. I was crying.
I remember I was crying, apologizing to the director. I'm so sorry. He's like, we already got it. We got it. And then it didn't end up in the movie.
And I'm like, dude, that's the. Oh, that's such. Kind of like my limbo, or not limbo, what is the scene where you go around the bar and you're like. Oh, the tango. Not the tangles.
The conga. The conga line scene in Kingpin with Vanessa Angel. Worthy Arrolson. That was like one person behind Vanessa Angel, and it got cut out. No one will ever see it.
I still get stuff cut all the time. I got something cut from Fantastic Four. I get. It just happens, right? Yeah.
It happens. Bro, my funniest joke in Long Shot. Yeah, my funniest joke in Long Shot got cut. I'll never forget it to this day. What was the joke?
And because, like, there's a whole thing where in Long Shot, Yeah. In the beginning of the movie, like Seth Rogan kinda has a a bit of a run in with boys to men and they make fun of him and like they like retweet him. And then so later on at the end of the movie, s a video of Seth uh Making love to Seth. is aired out on the internet and there was a an I did an improv one time and said, Boy Simon retweeted it, and it was like it started an arc where Boy Simon just hates Seth. Like, we couldn't, we had to cut it because we had to reshoot.
And so, man, to this day, I've never had a set erupt like that moment, and it's just gone. I'm gonna have two wives cut out. Oh, wow, O'Shea just said the funniest thing. It's for sure going in the movie. It's not going in the movie.
Levine, you have to put it in. Sean Levine, Johnny Levine. What a guy. Shooting a drama right now. Yeah.
He's shooting like a football drama with Mike Shannon. One of my favorite actors of all time, Michael Shannon. Dude, that dude has such a strong face. Yeah. Strong, like you don't.
I don't know what he's laughing at. But yeah, you meet him and he's like a sweetheart, but he definitely looks like he's thought about killing you mid-combat. He's got that about 100%. Seems that way.
Now, you have one?
Well, I know. Just since we're on the acting tip, you were talking about doing extra work. We talked about the wrestling bug. When did the acting bug hit you? When did you decide, man, I want to go give this a shot?
Yeah, similar to like the culture of the 90s, it's like. It's kind of astounding slash A little depressing to think about how many comedy stars we had in the 90s versus now. It's not Even And it's not even close, as O'Shea would tell you. Yeah. You know, I'm a real fan.
Yeah, that's right. I know that one. But it's not even close. I mean, when I was. When I was five, six years old, it's like.
Eddie Murphy, Jim Carey, Steve Martin, Robin Williams suddenly like Sandler and Farley are on SNL. They're making Wayne's world. Like... There's a million pieces of great comedy coming out. And I just kind of was drawn to comedy first.
Eventually, I would discover. Jack Nicholson or Natalie Portman, all these people, I love their work or whatever, but. At the outset, it was just like. The one-two punch of me seeing like Mrs. Dow Fire and then the mask or the mask and then Uh freaking dumb and dumber.
It's like I was like, this looks like the greatest thing in the world. How do you do this for a living? And I remember my dad's a Lutheran minister. He's a pastor since retired, but I got interviewed at my church. We were doing like a Christmas pageant or whatever, and they had the local news come by.
Up until then, my teachers had told me they're like, You were talking about maybe being a pastor like your dad. You mentioned it a few times. And then, when the local news showed up and you're doing b-roll shots of you like singing as like a Christmas elf or whatever the hell. They were like, we want to interview that kid because I was like hamming it up on purpose, trying to get noticed. Mind you, I'm nine, kids are starving, maybe 10, but like I'm already like trying to be advantageous.
Yeah. And so they interview me and I go, I want to be like Jim Carrey or Robin Williams when I grew up. I want to be an actor. And that was the first time I said it out loud: nine or 10 years old on the local news. That's a hot clip somewhere.
On the hot seat. That's wild, man. And then you follow through with it. followed through and then of course like 10 years later I go from watching uh Mrs. Dow Fire and Ace Ventura to now I'm watching You know, 25th Hour or Gangs in New York.
And I'm like, oh, this is like a whole new. Thing and I just fell in love with guys like Sidney LeMette or Rob Reiner. I was like, how's Rob Reiner making Princess Bride and Misery and a few good men like this dude's On another level. And so that I fell in love with that. And my dream has always been: I'm going to act, I'm going to write screenplays, I'm going to direct, I'm going to produce, I'm going to do comedy, and I'm going to wrestle.
So I'm just slowly trying to pick away at that whenever it makes sense.
So, you know, we love talking movies around here. You know, we love talking comedy around here. We also love talking about classics around here.
So, you know what I'm all about. That said, All of that said. You know how I must have felt when I was sitting in the movie theater like I was the other day watching the previews, and up came a preview. for the naked gun. with Liam Neeson is Frank Greben Junior.
That Preview had me at hello. I loved police squad back in the day. I loved the naked gun back in the day. And here comes the naked gun once again with yes, Liam Neeson as Frank Drebbin Jr. Come on now, son of the celebrated police squad, Lieutenant Frank Drebbin from the original movie, Paul Walter Hauser's in this movie, also Pamela Anderson.
Guess who also makes an appearance? WWE superstar. Cody Rhodes and the producer of the movie is Seth McFarlane, the creator of The Family Guy. Come on now. This is going to be so much fun.
I'm excited to see The Naked Gun in theaters on August 1st.
So. What do you do on August 1st? Of course, you're going to a theater near you and you're seeing the naked gun. I might even be there. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance.
Do you ever think about switching insurance companies to see if you could save some cash? Progressive makes it easy. Just drop in some details about yourself and see if you're eligible to save money when you bundle your home and auto policies. The process only takes minutes and it could mean hundreds more in your pocket. Visit progressive.com after this episode to see if you could save.
Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states. Growing up, you know, as a kid. If it wasn't a black movie, I wouldn't really watch it.
You know, I just, I just, I couldn't connect. You mean you weren't a huge fan of Wes Anderson's Rushmore movie? No, no, but that's seven years ago. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there because that is one of my favorites.
I was watching Soul Food, okay? It was only George Tillman for Young White Paul. It was my grandmother, my grandmother Dolores, that actually showed me my favorite movie of all time, The Big Lebowski. Like the big LeBowski. My grandma would not be okay with that.
Yeah, my grandma showed me the big LeBowski. My grandma introduced me to the Golden Girls, which I still love. Yeah, me too. Same thing. Same thing.
And also, you know, Roseanne and One Life to Live and General Hospital. Those are in all my children. I had to watch those before I could get the TV. Bro. Todd Manning.
Shout out to Todd Manning. See, we were on the CBS. As the World Turns, Bow into Beautiful, Guiding Light, Capital Way. Guiding. Guiding Light was it for us.
So sorry. My grandma was more ABC. But then, you know, I got when I went into public school, seventh grade through 11th grade, I had a teacher, Hernan, who's actually the reason why I. I became a screenwriter and even got into college because I was a daydreamer. And he put a notebook in front of me and was like, dude, whatever you're thinking about, just write it down because you're not here right now.
And then that turned into a 120-page handwritten story that is of me going to SC. But he's. He's the one that showed me stuff like Patton, showed me Doctor Strange. He's that person who like introduced him. Yeah, that opens that door a little bit.
And then my brother Daryl showing me pulp fiction and like all these.
So my world was open. And then I started to really look at. Movies differently, and then I got a love for it, and then I I kind of got thrown into acting. Is there anybody that you see as like that you? That you still want to act with, you still want to Oh dude, come on.
I need to know him, bro.
Okay. Um Um I'm um Oh man, I'm like trying to figure out where to start. I'm a big fan of once again, like I'm a big fan of people where I just love their work. It's not about a level of fame.
So like there are guys like Peter Sarsgaard, Michael Shannon. Um Yeah. Stephen Graham, Herschel Ali. Like, I'm dying to work with the ones that I just think are killers. Yeah.
I just want to work with the killers. Exactly. Secretly, I would love to be put in a movie. Where, like, I'm the Jonah to DiCaprio, like Wolf of Wall Street. Like, I.
But part of me, I got a weird, like, and it's, by the way, it's not ego, it's ambition, and it's. And it's the desire to just I'm competitive. That's what I'm trying to get at. I'm violently competitive. And not to the detriment of anyone, but to the.
Motivation. For myself.
So I want to work with Jyllen Hall and Leo. and Michael B. Jordan, but I only want to work with them to show like We're going to spar, and no matter who wins on the page. I'm going to break my teeth off on this Courier 12 font. I just had that same feeling with Brian Cranston.
I did a movie with Brian just because in the script, I saw we had a one-on-one. Oh, that's enough to, of course. You need that, you know. And Jason Mitchell, who played Easy Eat and Straight Out of Copy, he's the one that taught me how to look at it like that because I'm just going off the page what I think would happen. And me and him were watching, I forget what movie we were watching, but he goes, Like he's looking at it and he goes he just He just fucked him up right there.
I'm watching two people talk. He started showing me like acting like boxing or like. Basketball is like how I look at it like a sport. And so he kind of really flipped that in me where I have that same feeling.
Somebody that I really want to work with, and I'm gonna butcher his last name, John Berthal. Bernthal, that's my boy, yeah, dude. I got to, dude. I have to. That's incredible.
Talk to him and like work with him. He and I were talking about doing like a boxing story where he'd be a boxer and I'd be a promoter. But it was like one of those things where it's like, you're the crazy fat, like sketchy dude. And I'm just kind of like, I want to work with Bernthal, but I also like, I got to be careful how many of these same roles I play. If I get too redundant, where like, if I'm feeling it's redundant.
The audience is for sure feeling it's redundant. Yeah. So I just have to be. Cognizant of that. And that's why I try to do like, I did this tiny indie film we shot for like 3 million bucks in South America called The Luckiest Man in America.
It's like I got to be the lead, but it's not the biggest movie, but... Good script. I'm working with David Strathairn and Walt Goggins, and everybody from Maisie Magoons from Game of Thrones to Johnny Knoxville, like dope cast. Yeah. But then I'm also doing Fantastic Four, and it's like I probably had three scenes in Fantastic Four.
It's not like I'm the Joker in Dark Knight. Right. But. I'm trying to give some form of Variety, both for my own sanity and so that the audience feels unpalatable and I'm not just like hitting them over the head with the same damn thing. Exactly.
And you also have Naked Gun coming out, right? Yes, dude. I saw it the other night for the first time. Yeah, how you feel? It's great.
It's great. Thank God. Not that I thought it wouldn't be, but like, dude, you don't know. You're nervous about every baby. You don't know.
And comedy is weird where it's like, we're not just making a comedy, we're making a comedy that has a history we're living up to, and it has to have a tonality that we hit.
So it's kind of like. Let's put it this way. If you're from the south, or you're from Sicily, or some very specific place. You can have the cuisine replicated, but you take one bite, you know whether or not this is somebody's auntie or this is. Job, you know.
Michael Tribiani Jr., or whatever, something like that. Like, you know.
So, I think, I think for me, it was like, wait, why did I make that food allegory? I was making it in. Just because of the Naked guns very specific. Yeah, it's like it's like we are having to somehow make this Sicilian dish and not all of us are Sicilian.
So it's like we're just trying to get that right. And then I watched it the other night and I was like, oh, wow. Not only did we get it right, It just feels like a sequel that was made by all the same people. It just happens to be Leslie or Liam instead of Leslie. Yeah, that's what everybody wants.
And your character is, you're the son of George Kennedy's character. I'm the junior of that character, yeah. It's hard being a junior, dude. Looking forward to that immensely. It's hard being a junior.
Hard being a junior, bro. He wouldn't know. Hard being a junior, bro. Well, I see.
So you've got the ROH hat on. What's up, what you would do within Ring of Honor? You know what's funny? I I haven't talked about this much, but like... I love Ring of Honor's history, how many people came out of there.
It's just crazy. I'm a big Seth Rollins' ROH. I just was ROH. It's like, it's crazy. Yeah.
Brian Daniels, I mean. We could be there all night. It's nuts. It's really nuts. I fell out of wrestling for a couple of years.
Post-high school, I think. And ROH weirdly got me back into it. ROH and TNA did. And so watching like El Generico and the Briscoes and stuff got me back in.
So I'm a fan of the product, but I'm buddies with Tony Khan, as I am a bunch of different people that work in TJ. TJ? TK. TK. TJ.
You're TJJ. All of them. But I've done some work with all elite wrestling, mostly just little cameos or doing like broadcasting. As you shout out to Big Three the other night, you did sound like sound reporting. I was doing that for all elites.
So while I was doing that, I had a run-in with this guy. Do you know QT Marshall? Yeah, I'm aware. Yeah. Yeah.
QT Marshall. You know what? That's better than most people say. Most people have no idea. Dude is a great wrestler.
Also, cut his teeth in ROH and is there now. Trainer, also, right? Yeah. And he came up and was like, they were like, hey, QT is going to do a bit and come up and give you some shit or whatever. I'm used to this.
Like, oh, let's do the segment. Let's do the segment. And he threw a drink in my face. And mind you. Once again, I'm willing to play ball.
Like, it's fun. Like, I had a guitar broken over my head, like, a Jeff Jarrett guitar. I'm cool throwing drink in my face. It's part of the show. But I smelled it about 10, 12 seconds in, you can see it if you find the clip.
You can see something turn or shift. Yeah. And like, Now, I'm not that good of an actor. Like, you can tell something's wrong. It was alcohol, and I'm over three years sober.
I'm celebrating my four years of sobriety this autumn, assuming I make it one day at a time. But But I was, I stormed off the set, and nobody cares because they're like, oh, he's acting, he's doing the thing. But I'm like. Not cool. Like that, it could have been anything.
I talked to his friends and they're like, he doesn't drink that much. Like, so that's kind of weird that he even, I'm like, so whether he meant to or not, in my head, I'm like, now I'm thinking this dude did this on purpose to mess with me. And if that's your idea of a practical joke, I'll shoot, not work, shoot, beat your ass. Yeah. I got kids and stuff.
So they were, Tony's like, oh, I'll put you guys in group text. It's really cool. But TMZ was following me out of the grove and I just started talking to them. And I'm, I'm kind of, you know, we all do it. We're all talking our shit.
I had to get off Twitter because I couldn't stop talking my shit. I couldn't police my own tongue. And then they're doing the storyline. They're like, yeah, we'll respond to it. And I'm like, if y'all keep going with this, like, I'm going to need a match.
So I've been wrestling with MLW primarily. That's my home right now. But I got a lot of love and a lot of friends in that company.
So, you know, I'm hoping me and QT get to. Do the deal. I guess I can say it on here because manifesting is like a thing. Absolutely. If anybody's watching.
Uh Lord knows I've already texted Tony about it. I want to match with QT Marshall.
So, dude, you're not that busy in ROH other than like, you know, interfering Aaron Solo's matches or whatever dude you've convinced to be your ROH disciple. Come mess with me, dude. Find out how much of an actor I am. Find out if I'm still acting when you're bleeding all over an ROH canvas, bro. That's my message to the dude.
That's the NZW exclusive. It's been a couple exclusives. I'm dealing with it right now. I'm loving the energy. I'm going to be able to do it.
Is this art or something? He's got a gun. For those. He played QT. If this were a naked gun, I would pull out like a fiddle and circle it in.
But I wrestled for this company, Progress, who's been super cool and generous bringing me in. I had a match in Vegas Mania weekend, and it was part of the collective GCW and DeFi and all those companies. And I won this title called the Proteus Title. And I just wanted to show it off because I know you're a title belt guy. Yeah, I'm also rarely do I see you without one.
So I just wanted to pass this around and say, I will finally. I got injured during the match. I broke four ribs. What a beast.
So I. I have not been wrestling. I've just been. acting and producing the the last two and a half months. My uh My first Proteus title.
Match with progress in London will be August 25th at the hallowed halls of the electric ballroom, where everybody from Will Ospreay to Finn Balor have been. And I hope people find a way to at least watch. I know it's a hike. August 25th. This is the hardware.
Yeah. That's right. Wow. So I'm defending that title on the Indies and in progress. And And then hopefully I'll be showing up at places like, you know, ROH or Wrestling Revolver or wherever will have me, you know.
Oh, absolutely. One thing I want to say about MLW, too, is we are not playing this petty game of like other companies don't exist, only we exist. We get it. We are not the top, top tier right now, but we are trying to exist in a world that loves professional wrestling. And I think it's okay to just exist and to have incremental growth, right?
Why not? You know, so Corp Bauer, to his credit, he's been letting me go around and be non-exclusive to MLW. It's my home, but I'm also stepping into other people's homes. I like that. But you're rapping when you go.
Yes, sir. And I'll be repping the night on the carpet at. Fantastic four. We got a premiere in downtown LA. Yeah.
Yeah, we would thank Paul for that because you do have a big Hollywood event tonight. I love it. Before that one, there's a match. You got Ziggy Dice coming up before that. That's right.
Yeah. Ziggy Dice, who's wrestled all over the place. God, we look like two brothers. Like maybe I made my parents proud and he hated them and they no longer speak. I don't know what the deal is.
Well, Kane burned his parents alive. That's true. Yeah. So, you know. Makes sense.
He's Kane, I'm Abel. But hopefully, yeah, hopefully, Kane doesn't kill Abel. I'm really excited to wrestle for this outfit in Canton, Georgia. It's real close to my home, so I get to go there and come back and sleep in my own bed. And on the card, they got Alex Kane.
I believe Carly Bravo from the infantry is on that. And And a bunch of other dudes. It's going to be a good show. It's like, it's the kind of show where it's like five, 600 people, but like they deck it out and pack it out. Kids under the age of 10 get in free.
No, get some nice, like good feeling, warm hometown. I love that. Right. And those, those intimate settings get rowdy sometimes. Like that sometimes is the way to go.
Yeah, it's uh, it's funny because it's kind of a family show, but it's also like I've seen dudes like put gusset plates on each other's heads and bleed all over us. It's like it's pretty gnarly where it's family friendly, but it's, you know, it's also pretty pretty violent.
Now, you being so in love with wrestling, there's something that we ask every show that I got to get your answer. As a fan, When did wrestling break your heart? It breaks my heart all the time. Are you kidding me? Come on.
I think that's my first time. It broke my heart last night watching TNA Slammiversary. Yes. It broke my heart last night a couple times. Yes.
The production crew's got to figure out how to get high spots. I think we missed like three dives, and I was like, yo. Yeah. Yeah. Figure it out.
My boy Steve Macklin got a three-minute match last night, and he's their international title holder.
So. Wrestling breaks my heart all the time, but but the big ones, the big heartbreaks, the ones you write poetry about. Yeah, yeah, those, those, those. The ones men write songs about. No, uh.
That would be Starkade 97, when Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff decided they wouldn't honor a year and a half long storyline in which Sting Steve Borden deserved to have the match of a lifetime and be put over. And instead it was basically a Uh, nobody takes any moves. Idiotic taunt fest schmaz with referees and Bret Hart running out and false finishes and fans not knowing what happened. A regular count that they played off as being fast and like stupid, it's just stupid. It's lazy and dumb and thoughtless and careless.
It's like that moment in the movie Elf where James Khan goes, Oh, we didn't put the last two pages in the children's book, just leave it out in stores anyway, right? Yeah, that's what it is. It's careless, dumb, idiot stuff. And your father and my father raised us to not half-ass our stuff. Yeah, um, so we don't.
We don't know. A year and a half buildup, if not longer, and that really upset me. And then I would say another time that wrestling broke my heart. was um Was seeing Sting not make it through the Seth Rollins match. And I don't, by the way, I do not blame Seth Rollins.
Mm-hmm. It is what it is. Dude had some messed up stuff in his body. He's old. It's old as shit.
I get it. But seeing it was hard. And I was at the Mickey Gall fight with CM Punk in Chicago. Like, seeing somebody get hurt for real in a ring. Shoot work, whatever.
It sucks. Yeah. I was there when Seth got hurt. This recent time. And I didn't know if it was like Yeah, I didn't know if it was a worker show.
I didn't know what it was, but it sounds like it's for real, for real. All right, Paulo, you got the premiere tonight. I'm going to let you go. We usually do this really quick because I know you got to get out of here. We usually do a bar fight question where he asks, 52 to the bar.
Can we flip this real quick? And yours changed recently, right? Yeah, yeah. It changes with the tides. Yeah, can you tell me yours?
My bar fight crew? My last one. I'll give you a new one. I gave one before. This is a question.
This is like. Riddle. Like Drew McIntyre. Bobby Lashley. And I'm just trying to l name people I didn't name before and uh Terry Funk.
Wow. Who would be yours? Yeah. I gotta go all stealth. Because are we talking?
You need to get home. I mean, it's a shoot, right? Like, it's a shooting. You're in a bar. Dude might have a collapsible baton.
Dude might have the broken Budweiser bottle. It's time to go. Yeah. I have to say first and foremost. Brock Lesnar.
100%. How do you not be able to do that? He's the scariest human ever. He's probably after us right now. If I was.
If I was Brock's wife and he were making love to me, I would just feel like I was being assaulted, even though it's consensual, but you still feel like you're being assaulted. I understand. Um That's from chapter nine of my book, wrestler physiques, et cetera. Number two, I'm going to go Haku because I always heard the stories of like Haku's a real. Life tough guy everywhere.
I wanna see him just like touch somebody's clavicle and watch them beg for mercy. Exactly. My number three. I might go uh I might, number three, I might go somebody like Braun Strowman. Oh, yeah.
Because once again, it's like we've got to get our size in. Make a hole, bro. If Brock and Braun are taking care of lots of dudes, then I get to have fun watching me and Haku try to just do little things. And then I guess my number, I need one more. Yeah.
Um. I might say It's got to be somebody who's actually kind of crazy because crazy wins fights all the time.
So I might say the late, great RIP2 Sebu. Oh yeah. Yeah, Brock, Bronze, Sabu, and Haku. House, yeah. Paul Hauser, bro, Paul, you're a beast, bro.
We appreciate. Oh, wait, we met on the Burt Chrysler show. You see, Burt's jokes, lamb, no, no, no. We met at Ray Liota's. Oh, at the birthday, Walk of Fame.
That was on my birthday. When and Ray Liota made it rain on us while we were today, man. Dude, that's right. We both worked with Ray at the end. We met on my birthday and we met here on the Rich Hisen show.
Yeah, legit. And I vividly remember because I was like, why am I talking to Rich? I should be talking to this guy. Six years later. Yeah, so now.
Wrestling friends, soon to be on-screen collaborators, and maybe, maybe. Maybe we'll square off in in an in a ring at some point. Anybody more than you, bro? That or will be the tag team, will be the Hollywood hustle. Oh, if you need a man, fuck with me.
If you need a manager, I know a guy got a kendo stick in the back. He got me a kendo. That's what I'm saying. I don't need someone to talk for me. I need somebody to hit somebody in the nuts of the kendo stick when the rest not looking.
We got you. I completely blame us for getting burned in that ring. 'Cause b burt He didn't, he didn't, like, he said he was a wrestling fan and then he realized he was a wrestling fan. Yeah. But to get in the ring, Cody helped him realize that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, dude, no, you, you heard us talking, and it was like, no, I'm going to show these fuckers. And, and, you know what? And my whole thing is like, and now we got Jelly Roll entering the ring. I've met that dude, beautiful soul, wonderful guy.
A lot of celebrities are going to be wrestling more and more. That's very obvious. There's a trend of some kind happening. But I just, I'm worried, I'm less concerned about being. The most popular or famous or followers, whatever thing.
I'm more worried about just like, I want to be known as safe in the ring. Yeah. I want to be known as somebody who did it for real, where I'm 52 years old and I'm like, I can't do it anymore, but I've done 180 matches. And And I want to have fun. Life is short.
Malcolm Jamal Warner just passed a 54. Shout out to his people. Bless you, prayers up. But, like, life is short. For those listening, if there's something you want to do, go to culinary school or ask out that person you've had a thing for, whatever the thing is, minimal or maximal.
far away or or proximal. Do it. Do it, do it, do it. Me and O'Shea, TJ, we are not more special than you, but we did. We did get the starters pistol at some point and we decided to do it.
So. Please do it. Paul Walter Hauser, everybody. Thank you, buddy. Thank you, bro.
Beautiful. Thanks. Blessings. We're good. And QT Marshall?
That's your ass. You're a bitch. With your bitch ass. But you know what? You're good at being a bitch.
So keep at it. Dude, what a guy. Yeah, man. What a guy. How about that, dude?
Cool, dude, man. Cool as hell, man. Kind of living the dream, you know? Like I'm far too old to even attempt it at this point. You know, put on a little bit too much weight at this point in life, but man.
Hey, you heard it worked out for him. It did. He's taking some blows. Earlier in the show, I mentioned always having respect for people who do things that I can't do or I wanted to do. Prime example, man.
Like the dude is one of the best actors on earth. Doesn't have to be doing this. No. You know, but he's putting it on the line, you know, bleeding, getting beat up, jumping off ladders, getting thrown off ladders, getting punched, kicked. You know, he's doing it, man.
And I got a lot of responsibility. I should have asked him if he ever talked to Mick. Oh, right. That'd be somebody cool for the. They gotta have a dinner or something.
Well, the great thing is, you know, tomorrow on the Rich Isen show, the main show, Paul's actually coming back to studio. He is on his way now to the premiere of the Fantastic Four. He's also in the new Naked Gun movie.
So, in addition to being in two of this summer's top films, which they will be, you know, he's also in August, you know, about to. go to battle with uh He's going to England for this one right here. Thanks, Dawn, for putting that up. The Electric Ballroom in Camden, London, August 25th. And then I believe on August 8th, as he said with Zicky Dice, those two are going at it at Rumblejack 7.
And he wants that. That's August the 8th. You want that smoke with QT? Yeah, he wants to smoke with QT. I mean, we ain't starting nothing, but we will help you get there.
Look, I'll push it. If you want to fight, I'll help you get it. Exactly. QT Marshall. Watch it back, bro, because uh...
PWH is coming. Yeah, now you've told them where to find PWH. Can you tell them where to find us? Yeah, that's right. So on all your socials out there, when you look at Twitter or X or I guess even threads, you're going to find us at There's No Contest on Instagram, No Contest Wrestling Podcast.
And of course, all of our videos can be found on the Rich Eisenstow YouTube page. Just type that in or type up no contest. You'll find us. We out there. We in here.
Yeah, man. And, you know, we'll see you guys next week. There's still a lot of things that we haven't gotten to. Can I get this camera right here? Because Lord knows Our tribal chief is back.
And if you think that I'm just going to just accept this and just gloss over it next week, I promise, because I got to watch Raw. But I am going to give all you Roman haters the business.
Now for my tag team partner. And one more thing I forgot, and I think we can actually add it maybe to this episode. You know, last week, Seth Freakham Rollins came in and he guest hosted you. He guest-hosted the Rich Eisen show Wednesday and Thursday of last week. Great time with Seth.
He's really a natural at doing this. What we do every day, three hours a day, unscripted, no scripts. No teleprompters, no writers, no huge team of producers in our ears. No, it's just basically it's us. And Seth Rollins did an incredible job.
Guest hosting the Rich Eisen show. You can look out for all of those YouTube hooks. But he also, at one point, right off the bat, he explained to us what happened to his knee. I'm sitting down. I look great.
I can see myself on the monitor right here. I look great. I'm not going to lie. But underneath this monitor, I do have a leg brace on. Over in the corner are my crutches.
This past Saturday, I was in a match on Saturday Night's main event, which we, a special on NBC on Peacock. I was in a match with LA Night, and I hurt my knee. I was doing a move that I do all the time. It's a moonsault, a backflip. In this particular instance, I was landing not on my belly, but I was landing on my feet.
When I landed, I felt my knee kind of pop and buckle. We got out of the match and we moved forward. Monday, I was in Birmingham, Alabama, where our specialists are at. We tried to take a look at the knee through some imaging. It was a little too swollen.
So we're going to take another look, hopefully, in a week or two here in LA to try to get something Some sort of firm diagnosis, and then we can go from there. I am not a doctor. I only know my body and what I feel. And what I feel is that this is going to be me out for an extended period of time. That's.
You know, we were talking off air earlier, and it is a bummer, but look, it is what it is. Our business moves on. This isn't the first time that I've been injured. It won't be the last time. And, you know, I've always just got WrestleMania in the back of my mind.
I'm like, can I make it back for WrestleMania, for WrestleMania season for the whole thing? And so my brain always goes there. And I feel good about that. But beyond like a firm timeline, I just won't know until we get a better answer on the MRI.
So that's where it's at. If you guys have any questions, you want to get anything out of the way, that's where I'm at with it. I'm open to whatever you guys want. If you got any questions.
Well, I guess first off, just on a human level, like mentally, how are you? Because you're on a roll right now in your business. And then for this to happen to you, man, like, are you okay? Yeah, I mean, look, there's no good time to get injured. You know, there's no like, oh, this is the best time of year for this to happen.
Or, you know, you're not being used very much.
So, you know, you can take a break. But this is not my first rodeo. You know, I had a very serious knee injury, same knee actually back in 2015. I was in a much different state of mind at that point in my career where I was still feeling like I needed to work, work, work to get to the top.
Now I'm sort of at the top. I've had multiple injuries over the years.
So I know what it feels like to take a step back. But also, I have the confidence in our roster and in our team that they're going to be able to move things forward in a way that's entertaining. Like, I don't want to say they don't need me, but like, we're good. We're in a good place. Right now, and when I come back, I'll be better than ever.
Everyone's still on social media, whether it's a work, whether it's not a work. All I know is the man came into the set. He had a knee brace, he had crutches. You know, so you know, hey, I can only take it for what it is, but I am also a wrestling fan. Yeah.
So, you know, I'm always, but I believe you always. But based upon what I saw, the way he moved, and really his just overall when he was talking about it, seemed a little bit sad. I'm going to say this isn't a work, man. But, you know, like I said, it's wrestling. But make sure you check it out.
We'll include that on this episode. Seth Rollins did a fantastic job. And O'Shea, it was like, for me, everyone on the comments was like, yeah, TJ, this must be really dope. And it really is. You know, I got to, I've gone to Seth's job so many times.
To watch him work.
So, for him to come to my job and get a chance to work with him, you know, I. I walked in, I knew a lot about Seth Rollins. But I got to know Kobe Lopez a little bit, and that dude's mad cool. No matter what you think about the character, the human being, that cat, he's good people, man. And I think he and I are going to watch the Bears Cowboys game together in week four.
Cowboy's going to spank that in us. Oh well thank goodness you you brought back a little TJ in there. It was getting a little too nice. Guys. We'll see y'all next week.
On behalf of my tag chain partner, I am O'Shea Jackson Jr. This is No Contest Wrestling. We will see y'all next week. Bye, Ms. Parker.
Bye Ms. Parker. Yeah. Jim Rome takes on sports. Why?
Because you're not playing me. With rapid fire takes. And a lot to get to, and I'm not sure you're going to like all of it. Honestly, I don't even care if you like all of it or not. I have a job to do.
Scorching debates. On any given week, you have lots to beef about. Take advantage of it. Get up in here. He's the Spitfire of Sports Smack.
Which is not my fault. We will get to all of that. The Jim Rome Show podcast. Get up in here and we'll beef later on. What's your beef?
Follow and listen on your favorite platform. You've been warned. Uh
