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From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Running backs should be paid because of what these guys do. Earlier on the show, three-time Super Bowl champion receiver Ed McCaffrey. Commanders radio analyst London Fletcher. Coming up.
Actor Anthony Michael Hall. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Anthony Michael Hall is back on the show. He's in our green room.
He's going to come out in short order and hang out with us. He's in the. Latest Fox fun show called Nation's Dumbest. Is that why Del Tufo is not here today? You know, I was going to make that joke, is that why he is?
Hey, you got to work on Nation's Dumbest. Oh, I thought you were tested. Oh. Oh, that too. How dare you?
We both thought it. Oh, but he's well, he's clearly the nation's dumbest. Is that what you guys are saying? He's up to the nation. Oh, okay.
Hour number one, Ed McCaffrey was in studio telling all these delightful stories that we we had him hang out for two two uh two segments. Ed McCaffrey bigger than you thought? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's a big dude, man. Oh, yeah.
6'5. 6'5 ease. That was a big handshake. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah.
Um So It was phone hanging out with him. And all those stories. If you missed the first two hours, there's our YouTube channel, youtube.com/slash Rich Eisen Show, as well as our Disney Plus page and the podcast version, all three hours. Of the show are available. London Fletcher was on an hour number two, and these things happen.
When you have a Washington Commanders analyst, radio analyst as he is, and One of the best linebackers in the history of the game, certainly in. Washington on the program and then news regarding the commanders breaks after he leaves.
So that conversation we had like who's going to catch the football for Jaden Daniels?
Well, there's Terry McLaurin, there is Luke McCaffrey. There's also draftees and young players and free agent signings and Stefan Diggs joins the team. Stefan Diggs.
So The guy Drafted after Jaden Daniels. That's A.J. Brown. to replace the Fondiggs. Hey, Drake May, it's Stephon Diggs, and that helped you blossom into an MVP candidate in year two.
Diggs was good last year. Right? And now He and the Patriots part ways, which is one way to put it. And who's now arriving in year three? For a guy who had his MVP season in year one.
But had an injury marred year two. And Stefan Diggs.
So be there for Jaden Daniels, who's now got a couple of OGs. later in their careers. Stephon Diggs and Terry McLaurin. All right.
So A.J. Brown departs the NFC East for New England. And Stephon Diggs departs New England for the NFC East. Adam Schefter says, one year deal worth up to $12 million.
So the commanders are looking around early parts of training camp are like, yeah, let's go get the Steph Diggs. Let's push the Steph Diggs button. I'm sure this isn't out of the blue because it's not like some sort of massive injury bug that breaks out in Washington. Let's get Steph Diggs. He must have been on the radar screen for a while.
Um And um, you know. San Francisco went for the guy they knew in Debo, which was kind of born out of. An injury bug with Ricky Pearsall being done for the season. That's shame.
So Steph Diggs now goes to Washington, D.C., where everybody thought. Brandon Nayuk was going to show up, and that's just yet another door closing. On yep. And Ayuk's last play now on Instagram is to say, hey, how about if you run it back with Debo, let's run it back together? And I don't know if San Francisco is going to buy all that.
But this is a nice signing for the Washington Commanders. I think this is a nice signing. Also, on a day that Zach Ertz, speaking of Stanford, is out catching footballs from Andrew Luck. By the way, showing off that his knee is Uh Healing fine, and hopefully, Zach Ertz finds himself a landing place before this season starts. And if not, when.
the season goes 'cause he's still got a lot left to offer as he's showing. Homecoming too for Diggs. He's a Maryland. That's right. That's right, it's a marily terrapin.
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Apply. This should be a fun win-loss game. Terrence in Cleveland is on the phone. Fine one. He's been hanging on since the beginning of the show.
What's up, Terrence? How are you? Rich Eisen, TJ Jefferson, Jason Feller, Brackman. Thank you all here, boom. Ready to go on the Rich Eisen Show.
How you been, Rich? It's been a while. Long time. It was your summer.
Okay.
So so we're going walking today, huh? Normally we get to walk.
Well, I'm Rich, I'm sleep deprived. My son was born at the end of June, so I don't I'm all loopy, you know. No sleep.
Okay, so I may be talking to you on the phone, but 50-50 chance. I'm actually sleepwalking and I'm actually talking into a banana. Ladies and gentlemen, Terrence in Cleveland. If you're going to do the win-loss game for the Browns, how about you choose a win or a loss with a different voice each game, Terrence? Can you pull that?
I don't have 17 voices, Rich.
Okay.
Okay, so much. I don't like your tone.
Okay, so how about. You know, we'll split it into quarters: four in one voice, four in another. Four and up. Do you have four voices, Terrence? Just I think I can do that, Rich.
Okay, here we go. Terrence in Cleveland. Let's start it off with walking first, I guess. The Browns win-loss game. What happens when the Browns visit Jacksonville to start the season?
Jacksonville. City of bridges like Venice, but horrible. That's a win.
Okay.
What happens when the Browns then stay in Florida and visit Tampa? I know Baker wants to shine his shoes with the Browns, but it's not happening. That's a win.
That's 2-0. Browns' home opener against the Panthers. The home opener in Cleveland, it's electric, Rich. It's got to be there. It's amazing.
That's a win.
3-0. Browns for the Thursday night. Week four against the Steelers. On vacation with my wife's family, all Steelers fans, I have a feeling they're gonna lose. Put my son in the Steelers onesie and they'll cry.
Three and one. Three and one at the Jets. If you want to switch it up, Terrence, go for it.
Well, Rich, the Jets are on a march for ox, so that's a win. The Ravens at the Browns, week six. No, the Rapids won't be able to take us down. We got momentum going. That's a win, right?
That's five and one at the Titans. Oh, that's a win as well, Rich, in Music City. And then you finish up against the Steelers in week eight at Pittsburgh.
So we don't play well in Pittsburgh, Rich. We never have, and I don't see it happening anytime soon. That's a loss. Six and two at the Saints. Darrich, the only game has a time in New Orleans.
That's a win.
Take him down. Getting the chopper. Didn't see that one coming seven and two. Texans at Browns. I'll be at that game, Rich, but unfortunately, that'll be a loss.
Okay.
Defense is just too good. Seven and three, home for the Raiders. Star Raiders, the Grainers don't have any chance at the winner, it doesn't matter who started. This is nuts. One, two, three, eight.
My God, eight and three home for the Bengals. Wow. They're called the Bungles for a reason, but I think the Browns are going to lose this one. Drop a little bit. That's a loss.
Okay, 8-4. Home for the Falcons.
Well, as the former governor of the state of Minnesota, I think that DeFansk's return is not going to work. I think the Browns are going to take that one rich. What the body? Was it the body? Is that the body or the mind?
Okay.
Read your history. Follow the money rich. Don't believe everything they tell you. 9-4 at the Giants. That's the mind.
No, that's a win rich. 10 and 4 at the Ravens. I'll tell you something about that stadium, Rich. That stadium is electric. It's one of the most underrated stadiums in the league.
I think that's a loss. Different to play there. 10-5, home for the Colts. Oh, Rich, that's a win for the Brownies. 11 and 5 at the Bengals.
Rich, this game is gonna get flexed. 8:15. It's gonna be for all the Marbles. Last time the Browns won the division, it was December of 1989. I was nine months old.
When this game's played, my son will be six months old. History repeats itself. The Browns win this game and win the division for the first time since 1989. Terrence in Cleveland has the Browns go 12 and 5 as Christopher Walk and Morgan Freeman. Gotta write these down.
Art Schwarzenegger. I told you, Rich, I'm loopy. I haven't had any sleep. Just remember one thing. George Benson, he's the man.
She'll listen sometime. Wow, there it is. There he goes. Thank you so much, Terrence in Cleveland. Terrence, off into that good.
So that was Jesse the Mind Venture, huh? The mind, yeah. I believe him. I believe you later. Mm-hmm.
Listen, I think the Browns are, as I mentioned, they were Sleeper Team 5 on my top five Sleeper Teams list. 12 and 5, though, would not be just an awakening. That'll be a football awakening similar to Robert De Niro. And that's Shadora, quarterback? I think so.
I think Shador's gonna be the starter. Unless it's Sean Watson. Can uh Pull it together. I mean, everything you see coming out of camp right now is good. Yeah.
I'm sure he's had some good throws, but nobody's putting it on their phone and popping it online. I'm pretty sure yesterday I heard he had six picks so far.
So far in camp. Yeah. All right.
It's now time for the four downs for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Hit it. Four downs with Rich. Here we go. One in his upload.
All right, my four downs on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You know what? It's kind of funny. My four downs, if I had done this a month ago, would be vastly different. Yeah.
Because I didn't know Vita Veya was in trouble in terms of his contract conversations about a month ago. And then we find out. For first down. Very simple. Is how does Vita Vea enter the season?
First down. Does he enter the season? A disgruntled player that is forced to decide of. holding out into the season or Swallows his pride and goes, I know I got a trade request on the table, but I didn't get what I wanted. And the last thing I want to do is leave my teammates in the lurch and hold out in the playing season, so I'm going to play anyway.
but I'm not happy about it. Or does he get his wishes and he enters the season? as something other than a Tampa Bay Buccaneer. Or does he end of the season as a happy camper because he's been paid? I do not know.
And that is a massive question mark for a massive individual who plays a figuratively massive role on this defense. And basically, it all comes off of him. Todd Bowles had this to say on the latest with Vita Vea on this very day. Again, it's still early. We've only been in pads for two days.
You know, we're not concerned at this point and I think those things take care of themselves once you get past two or three preseason games, you start to worry a little bit. Right now, you know, there's a lot of contracts getting done. There's a lot of people in camp that's sitting in or whatever holding in. There's a lot of people nicked up.
So we go about business as usual. He's been very engaged and he's been great. Very engaged. You do see some photographs of him standing next to Bowles in practice, and he's out there, and he's out there, and he's in there, but he's not signed there. in a manner in which he's happy to be signed there.
Please God. It's not like he has no contract. That's why he's holding in right now. But how does he enter the season is a big first down. Second down for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, it's the post-Mike Evans Levante David era.
That's it. Those guys have been there forever. And who's going to be the guy? Is it, I guess, Abuka? It's his time to shine.
Obviously, Chris Godwin is still there. They have a ton of young wide receivers, but it's been the Mike Evans show there for a long time. And then Levante David. has been there forever and a day. Who's the guy?
Certainly, a Vita Vea is. you know, holding in. Is it Ruben Bain's time? Everybody. Bain?
I was born. I'm going to go shock the quarterback. I don't know. That wasn't very good. That was kind of a Lou Holtzeb as well.
I guess you did that. I would hit that. You didn't Lou Holtze? The Bain man? I was born in it.
I was born to play rice. Again, what does it look like leadership-wise? Who do you depend on? Yada, yada, yada. It's the post-Mike Evans, Levante, David Error, third down.
The turnover on the roster. The turnover. from what I just mentioned, leadership and guys who have been around there a while. Will it include the head coach? I don't know how many times.
I have heard over the past several You know, Novembers and Decembers. It's been toasty. It's a hot seat. It's been toasty. Well, guess what?
Guess who's still there? Yep. Yeah. Guess who's still there? The steady hand of Todd Bowles.
And, you know, defensively. is how he's been getting it done. Uh, many times towards the end of the season, although last year it did not happen. And he was I mean you remember he Definitely big felt the heat and was so angry. The guy who normally doesn't show a poll sounded like a truck backing up in he let it go.
In a post-game press conference, but he is still there, a steady hand in that regard. And there's a young defensive secondary that's going to be. depended on and everyone's talking about the lack of depth in in Tampa. Will the turnover eventually include the head coach this year? It'll be something to keep up with.
Yeah, they were 6-2 last year and finished 8-9. And then fourth down, we know it's Baker Makefield, everything everywhere all at once. That's it. Baker Everything for this team. He's going to be everywhere because he's not happy about his contract.
And then it's all happening at once, man. Every game, an eye on him, and that's the way I kind of think he likes it, and he does have that chip on his shoulder. And one thing to just point out. This is Zach Robinson as the offensive coordinator this year.
So, Baker, this is his fourth year in Tampa. By the way, four years he's been there now. Um taking over for Tom Brady after he left. This will be Zach Robinson, his fourth different offensive coordinator. He arrived there in 2003 with Dave Canalis, who becomes the coach of Carolina.
Then Liam Cohen was the offensive coordinator in 2024. He famously leaves there for Jacksonville. Josh Grizzard was there last year. That didn't work out well enough.
So in comes Zach Robinson. By the way, Byron Lefwich was the offensive coordinator the year before that.
So that was when Baker was on two teams.
So he had not one, but two different coordinators in one single year. It was helpful for him that McVay was the guy in his helmet there. The last time he had the same guy calling plays in his helmet, two years in a row, was Kevin Stefansky.
So, turnover in that regard, what does it look like offensively for them this year?
So many changes. for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Will their fortunes in the second half of the season from last year change for them this year? And those are my four downs. on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers going into the season.
That's crazy, man. Four different offensive coordinators.
So he must look at Jalen Hurts talking about the different offensive coordinators he's had since college, and he's probably like, Welcome to the party, pal. You know? That's a shame.
So, wouldn't Jalen be welcoming him to the party? Because Jalen's been going through it longer? I don't know. So, think about it. Baker's older.
Baker, don't forget. Like, let's do this. Baker was. Because you know, I'll always cap for him. Let me get this right here.
Texas check and then Oklahoma.
Well, Jalen followed him after Oklahoma, right? I think Jalen followed Kyle. Oh, Kyle.
So Baker Kyler, then Jalen. I think so, right? I think you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um So Baker went back to Baker in 2018 for the Cleveland Browns.
Don't forget that was Hugh Jackson. And Greg Williams sharing the head coaching positions. In his first year in the league in 2018. Uh and then twenty nineteen, that's when As you know, in 2019 in Cleveland, that's the Freddy Kitchens year, is it not? Yep.
There it was.
Okay, so it was Hugh Jackson. Then Freddie Kitchens. And then Freddie Kitchens is the coach. Then Stefansky. Then Stafansky.
And then that was the year that Stefanski comes in they go 11 and 5 He gets COVID. And he's in the basement watching Baker win a playoff game. Right, right. And then go to Kansas City. and almost pull something off there.
Then 2021 happens. And it all falls apart for Baker in Cleveland. He winds up on not one, but two teams in 2022. Carolina, where he was also, what? Doing the scout team pass rush for a couple of practices.
Come on, man.
So this year for him, he's probably like, okay. That's where you put the chip. And we'll see how that works for the Buccaneers, man.
So, I don't know. Jalen Hurts says, We know we put that on a graphic once upon a time where. They're both of them. Uh the the same voice in his ear two years in a row was Shane Steichen. In Philadelphia.
Because in college it was just, you know. different in Alabama and then he goes to Oklahoma. Right. 844-204-Rich, number to dial. We've got uh our our friend.
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And so you're a smart guy, though, Anthony. You know what? I'm proud of the GED that I earned, Rich, and yet. This show was more challenging than I realized, man. Honestly, there was a lot of stuff.
Okay.
Geography, math, science, things I didn't do well with in high school.
Okay.
But it was fun, man. It was fun.
So, GED, that's the most you ever got. And then you went back to that. I barely made it through high school, to be very honest with you. Not that I'm not a smart guy. Yeah, yeah.
When did you first get a call to say, do you want to act or anything like that? I started out when I was a kid in the 70s. You know, I was doing plays and doing commercials and all that stuff. Right. Huh.
And so you were in grade school or something like that? I was in elementary school, yeah, younger than that. Yeah. So what's the first like what's the what's the when you get like a residual check? Oh, yeah.
What's the first what's the earliest thing? Yeah, it was probably in grade school. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah.
Doing what? Making money, Rich. What was the first show? Commercials. I think I did a honeycomb commercial back in the day.
Honeycomb. Honeycomb. All those cereals? Oh, yeah. They used to hold it up next to a rule.
Right. You'd measure the width of the honeycomb. Right. I remember. You did a Nerf soccer ball commercial, too.
A bunch of circles. A Nerf soccer ball commercial. Huh. Things you gotta do to earn a buck. But and then that's that's how you got things rolling for you, huh?
That's how it got going. As a kid, yeah.
Okay.
Bounty paper towels? Did that? Paper towels? Paper towel. I did.
I did a paper towel lad. That's right. Okay.
Remember Nancy Walker? Remember her? Of course. She was. Quicker, picker-upper.
Quicker, pick-upper. Remember? You're going deep into the 70s archives here, guys. You did a bounty quicker picker-upper commercial with Nancy Walker. That happened, that's how old I am.
That's how, well, come on, dude. We're from the same era.
So, okay.
So, then let's get to some of the stuff. Sure. When was the first time you got a call from John Hughes. When did that happen?
Well, after I'd done Vacation, I did Vacation with Chevy and Harold Ramos directed that, but that was a John Hughes script. And then from there, he wrote Vacation? He did. I did not know that. Yeah, he did.
And then I worked on 16 Candles after that. And then we did a run of the three films. We did Breakfast Club and then Weird Sciences.
Okay, so then what's your favorite memory from Vacation? When was that? It was a great experience. I think shooting at the Grand Canyon was a lot of fun. Working with John Candy, incredible.
He was great. You got a good story on that front?
Well, you know, there was originally another ending to the film. It was originally Chevy was holding Roy Wally hostage. He was supposed to be like the Walt Disney character, right? Right. Ultimately.
They tested the film and they felt that the ending wasn't strong enough.
So the audience wanted to see the family get to the park.
So we did a reshoot.
So we went to Magic Mountain. way back in the day, early 80s. Uh, and that was a sort of added ending, you know, the one with John Candy working. Where you say, sorry, folks, yeah, yeah, that was the second ending, yeah. That was the second ending, yeah, it's like eight months after we wrapped the film because when they tested the film, the audience was like, Wait a minute, we want to see them get to the park, right?
You know, oh, so that was totally added. That was an added ending. But, how old were you? 14 at the time, yeah, yeah, man. Did you get some of the humor?
Did you get some of it? Oh, yeah, and I still think it holds up great. I think that movie of all of them, I think it's hilarious. Yeah, and Chevy was uh Chevy was great, he was, yeah, okay, it was cool. I mean, I've seen the documentaries about it.
You hear some things, you know. You were going to bring that up. How was the documentary? Um, telling, it was telling, enlightening, yeah, interesting. One word for it is telling.
For sure.
Okay, so you're 14 years old, and you're. No, now I'm 58, Britney. No, no, no. But you were 14 years old. You're on the set of.
Family vacation. And did you meet Christy Brinkley? I did. Oh, she was a highlighter. Because I was getting that Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition every year.
Remember? Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So for her to be on the set, great lady.
Really sweet. Nice person. But it was a Yausa. It was kind of what she is. This was pre-Billy Joel or post-Billy Joel?
This is, I think, pre-Billy Joel. Pre-Billy Joel. There you were on that set, and John Hughes wrote it. And so, when it's time for you to.
So, 16 Candles was the first time. That was the first time that he and I worked together.
Okay.
Yeah, now he was a great guy, man. I owe so much to him, and Maddie Simmons, and of course, Harold Ramos. You know, they saw something in me as a kid which was. Which was a blessing. I mean, Harold Ramis is as classic as they come.
I mean, obviously, folks might know him from Ghostbusters and also Stripes. He also directed Groundhog Day, if I'm not right.
So many hits, yeah, Stripes, Caddyshack, you know, and he was responsible for 10 of the biggest comedies of all time as a writer. He sure was. He was a great guy. And so then 16 Candles, you were on the set there. And did you know that you were.
And we had no idea. These were small-budgeted films at the time. Right. They were green lit by Universal. And then John Hughes was a new director.
So I don't think we had any idea. You had no idea what could happen, or that they would hit and land with an audience.
Okay.
And so, what would you say from that era of your career? is your favorite movie where you're like, that's the best one. I had a lot of fun on Weird Science because at that point, John and I had done three films together and we just had a shorthand. He was great to work with. And he was just a buddy.
Well, just we got along. He had a great sense of humor. He loved music. We were always kind of conspiring together to make it better. You know, we would shoot the scene as written, two or three takes, and then he would say, mix it up, do something else.
Okay.
And what a heck of a cast. Yeah, he was great that way. He'd let us all do that, Rich. He was great about ad-libbing. But once we shot it the way it was written after two or three takes, but he was just awesome that way.
He really was. The Breakfast Club. to me Is It's so good. And it still resonates today, man. I don't know if, you know, do you have kids or?
I mean, we my wife and I showed it to our kids as they were Getting into, one of them was getting into high school, and a couple were. You know, my daughter is now 12. We showed it to her when it was like she's nine.
So she might have, it might have been too young for her. Right. But Because we wanted to show them, like, hey, listen, some of the stuff that you might be hearing in high school now or going into that. It's been going on forever. Right.
You know? Right. And so that's though shooting that, you were shooting in an actual high school? We were in Chicago, where John was from.
So the studio enabled him to do that.
So we shot a lot of the films in Chicago and then partially back in Los Angeles. But that one was like a play. I mean, it really holds up. It's incredible when I think back that he was still a young guy. He was only in his early mid-30s at that time.
Right. But it really has a great message, and the writing is great. You know, that one definitely lives in the hearts of people, which is a blessing. How long did it take you to shoot that? Quick shoot, Rich.
That was about 35 days. Quick.
So, just a month. Yeah. And did you get along? Did everyone get along? Everyone got along great, yeah.
One thing he did, which was cool, he would always allow for rehearsal time.
So we'd all get together for about a week or so, just sit around, talk about it, then we'd start blocking the scenes. bringing the other departments in and kind of figuring out how he was going to shoot it. But he was just cool on all those levels. He was right there with you, collaborating on the level. What license did you take?
For that role in any way, shape or form.
Well, just like when we're all getting high in the in the mad living and just doing stuff that was inspired for me as a kid by listening to Richard Pryor, George Carlin, you know, but I would come in and imitate bits of Pryor to John, and we would be watching some of Pryor's films. Even on weekends, I'd be at his fent house with his family and his kids. And so, just that kind of thing, the impetus from that came from just laughing together, you know, just me imitating all Richard Pryor bids for John. And then he would incorporate them, and that became the scene of Word Science, too, at the Blues Bar, too. No kidding.
Yeah, so just that kind of fun, that sense of play was really great that he had that. Because all the scripts are already funny, they're already working.
So he would give us license, you know, to try things and mix it up, which was really cool. And he did that for all of us. And so for Breakfast Club, was there an alternate ending for that too? No, nothing. No, that was it.
That was scripted as it was. Yeah. I think that was intended to be done first, and then they wound up switching it back in the day at Universal.
So then we made 16 Candles first and went right into that one. I got to be honest with you, man. I would love to see. Um Like a a reunion. Version of the breakfast club.
To see where everybody is now. You know what's crazy? The last time I spoke to Mr. Hughes, Rich, he called me with John Candy on the phone. It was about 1988.
And we just. Just Hung out on the phone for a couple hours, and he talked about it at that time. It was something that was on his mind. Like what? The idea of bringing back the Breakfast Club.
Like those five characters reunited somehow later in their life, and they're in the workforce and they're in their 30s. I mean, it's a long time ago.
So I think that it was something he was playing with. I don't know if he had written it or not, but he just was so prolific. You know, even when we were doing Breakfast Club, he Came to me about a couple weeks in and we were shooting. The breakfast club, and he came to me in the hallway. He goes, I just came up with the other idea for our next film.
He goes, It's going to be you and this other kid, you're going to create a girl on the computer. I'm like, what? He wrote an entire act of weird science after we had rapped the night before. at Rap Ruther when he went home.
So he was just incredibly prolific, man. Wasn't he also, was he just finished shooting Ferris Bueller? That was after the film.
So the trilogy of films I did with him led to those other films. At that point, he also had a deal at Universal, and he was making a lot of films that he wasn't just directing, producing.
So he's already thinking about maybe like a a high school reunion. And it's the breakfast club all back together. Right. And this was probably like 87 or 88. As I said, it was the last time I got to speak to him, unfortunately.
You know, but he's called me. He's like, he called me with Candy on the phone. It was really cool. It was really great. I was amazed.
I'm just sitting there listening to you. You're like, yo, yeah, we just kind of hung out on the phone. It was great. Right. And so, also, one last thing for you on this, if you don't mind, I appreciate you going down the memory lane.
That's kind of cool, man. When you guys were called The Brat Pack, you know, that was a very famous documentary that just came out. Andrew McCarthy did quite a that one hit me. Did it? Yeah.
How did it hit you when you were called The Brad Pack?
Well, that didn't really bother me. I thought it was kind of goofy. I always thought The Brat Pack was cooler than The Brad Pack. But that article was a thing. You know, I think it was a bit of a ploy.
They set them up to. carouse and sit around talking about themselves. Right. You know, I wasn't really in that I mean, I was part of the article, but I was at the young age of that group. You were on Yeah.
But that's you know, kind of stuck as a term with people, but I never really made it. Pardon me, I'm sorry. I would consider you part of that, though. Yeah, you know, it was a way to identify a group of us, a generation of actors. But did it really affect me?
No, I just kept it moving. It just kept working. But I saw the documentary, that was interesting. What did you think? I thought it was mostly about Andrew McCarthy.
Right. Well, I mean, because he was talking about how that kind of derailed a lot of their That's his perspective, yeah. But not yours. No. That's what you're saying.
No, sir.
So, what do you, when you look back on that time of your life and your career? What do you think of it? Just grateful. Grateful. Gratitude.
Just thankful for the great start I had the people. You know, the shoulders who I stood on, right? Giants like Maddie and Harold, and right gave me an opportunity, and yeah, I just kept working at it. You know, how'd you like doing Reacher? I had a good time on that show, man.
It was fun.
It was fun.
Yeah. Big action show, man. Yeah. We've had Richson sit in that chair. He filled up the chair.
He fills it up. Yeah. I enjoyed meeting him. Did you? Like, yeah.
Oh, good. It seemed like a good time that you were having on that set, right? Yeah, no, it was good. I liked playing the villain against him. Do you like playing villains?
To whom?
Well that role was kind of funny. It was kind of an arms dealer. It was a crazy role. Right. And he's a great script.
This guy, Nick Santor, created the show. It was wonderful, gave me the opportunity to do it. And I really enjoyed playing opposite Alan. But the crew, I mean, we had a great, great group of people. They turn out a big show every two weeks, you know.
They make those episodes and it's strong and it was very well done, very well produced. Yeah. And Dark Knight, you you wanna roll that one out a little bit here? Dark Knight, yeah.
Well, I was a I had a small role in that years ago. It was a great experience. Yeah, what did you do for that one again? I was the I played the newscaster in it. Yeah, so I just finished the Dead Zone and I went to London to shoot that.
It's a lot of fun, you know, and seeing people like Gary Oldman, guys that I really admired, work and Heath and Christian, too. They were fantastic, you know, to watch. Yeah, yeah, man. I mean, and again, you've got Halloween store coming up. Yeah, this is a film I did for Keenan Thompson's company, Rich.
It's a horror comedy. We shot in Hawaii about a year and a half ago. It stars a young lady who's on Dutton Ranch. Her name is Natalie Lynn. She's really talented.
And it's a horror comedy. It's really fun. I play Sheriff in it. Really great cast.
So that's forthcoming. And then I did the show SWAT, which is going to be on. It's a new offshoot of SWAT spin-off. It's called SWAT Exile, so I work with Shamar more on that. Jerry O'Connell, some other people.
That was great experience. Jerry O'Connell. Yeah, he's a nice dude. That guy. Is off his rocker.
Is he? Yeah. I mean, how many fantasy football leagues is that guy in? Like 12? All of them?
Big fantasy guy? He is that for sure. And then that's coming up on Starz in September. Yes, sir. And then Nation's Dumbest, Wednesday at 9 Eastern on Fox.
You got choices this summer. You got Odysseus and you got Nation's Dumbest. You're welcome, America. You're welcome, America. Can we talk about the blues bar scene again, though, in word science?
Because for my group of friends, we were in like elementary, junior high. We still, to this day, will quote this. What do you remember? And who were you channeling in that scene?
Well, like I mentioned earlier, man, like Richard Pryor was a huge hero of mine as a kid. I would listen to all those albums from the 70s of Richard. And George Carlin equally, you know. But I think that that was the impetus for it, TJ. I would imitate those bits like Mudbone and these other bits that Carlin, I mean, that Pryor would do.
And it would make John Hughes laugh, and that's how he kind of you know, we set up that scene. But there's a fi very funny story. That's the guy who was with me in that bar. Seeing TJ? This is a great story.
Yes, sir. He was homeless on the nickel downtown LA in the 70s. They were shooting Beretta on the streets with Robert Blake. This is way back in the day when we were kids. Sure.
Homeless guy jumps up on the camera truck and tries to make off with the damn 35 millimeter camera and starts running down the street. And Fatz recovered it because he was just homeless living on the dime there, right? Downtown LA.
So he gets the camera back.
Next thing you know, Fatz had a job on Beretta. He was a Supporting character like next week, they got him. He was like a regular on the show.
So that's how Fats got into show business. And he winds up in Beretta. Yeah, he winds up on Beretta. And then I got to work with him. He was a great guy.
No kidding. Fats, remember Fats. Let me tell you my story. I'm back. On the telephone?
That's what you're talking about, TJ. Yeah, I mean, the whole scene was he was drunk in the bar with a bunch of brothers, and like he was spitting game, and he had this beautiful, you know, woman with him, and they were trying to figure out. How he's able to pull. How do you do this? How did just any white kid pull this?
Oh, well, and I just love there's like four of these old. I'm not watching it. It's really funny. I can't believe I have like a handful of movies that are over 40, which makes me feel 107. Thank you, America.
But, dude, man, I mean, hey, hold up, man. We've been doing it. Yeah, we talk about stuff like this all the time, as you know. I love it, yeah. You know, and so.
They're they're It's great. Nostalgia is great. And it's kind of like a new thing for people who are half our age. And stuff stands up. It's just kind of crazy.
When my wife and I showed Breakfast Club to our kids, they were all like. I love that. We paused it, which is a very provocative act in the middle of the day. This is the teachable moment. Because we noticed that they were.
kind of like Um From paying attention, and we're like, hey, what's going on? And our our two the two oldest were like, Uh when does it become tomorrow? And and we're like, no, no, no, it's just it's about one day of detention. I see. And how relationships can change even in a span of hours when there's a connectivity.
and a collective Of having shared experiences. A great review of it. This is what we're well, and it's what we're trying to explain. And they're like, Yeah, when is it tomorrow? They're like, Yeah, but where's the editing?
Were they, but that's this is the generation of I appreciate it. No kidding. I went everybody's on the scroll, Rich. I know. Were they confused why they didn't have phones?
Did they bring that up to you? Yeah, like, yeah. But we're, they, that one they knew.
Okay.
I mean, because, you know, Susie and I are conditioning them. Like when we showed them ET, we're like, you see that thing on the wall with this little wire? That's called a phone. You know what I mean? Like, people used to have busy signals, you know?
Like, and I understand it makes me sound old or whatever, but it's the truth. But this stuff stands up. When it's well written and well acted, man. I appreciate it, Rich. You know, listen, sure.
All, you know, credit to John Hughes. Because it is crazy. The whole world's doing this. Everybody's on the scroll. Right.
Doom scroll or not. But yeah. New world.
Well, I mean, you'd have had your phones taken from you in detention, anyway. Oh, no kidding. Come on, he doesn't even have his license, Lisa. Great to see you, man. Great to see you.
Thank you, Michael Hall, everybody. Check him out tonight on Fox at 9 Eastern Time on Nation's Dumbest. Everybody, we're back with.
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Fresh off of SummerSlam, so you got a lot to talk about, I imagine. Yeah, it's uh it's crazy right now. Raw had a lot of returns. Storylines are going all over the place. It should be a nice yap fest between me and TJ.
You got any guests, or just the two of you just talk about it? Yeah, it's too much news. Too much news. Yeah, I love it. That's awesome.
Plus, we didn't get a guess. TJ, I knew it. I knew it, TJ. That's one thing the people that listen to us love about this. We keep it real well.
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He got his nice jacket on. He's got something going on over there. See ya.
So we have a segment here that we love to call the Harbaugh Files. Yes. When Jim. has a moment at the podium. Normally it's just him, you know, Talking about extraterrestrials or whatever.
But this one involves a hold-in. Hold in? Yeah, a hold in. Hold in. Yeah.
Two. Tula. Almost lost you back there. I know who he is. I know who you're talking about.
Boy was drowning. Tula. As he is known on the Chargers, he's holding in right now. And um but he's also hurt. And so Let me make sure I get this all correct.
Yeah, Tui Pelotu. Yes. That was actually excellent. The Harbaugh files involves Tule. Tui Pelotu, who is one of the best young pass rushers in the National Football League.
A mouthful, certainly, for opposing quarterbacks to see coming at So this harbaw file is normally a very light and airy segment. Involves Jim going back and forth with a reporter. I believe Chris Rim of ESPN. Asking him about Tule when he's going to get out there for team Practices, which he's not going to do if he's holding in. But if he's injured, then he's got to work his way towards it.
That's the setup for this hardball files.
Some plants, people. that are standing on third base think they hit a triple, but they didn't. The Harpa Files. Participate in team drills today? Um And we'll see how individual goes, but that's the expectation.
Has anything something changed with the situation that he'll participate in team? Uh yeah, the ramp up.
So true. Been progressing.
Okay.
So this whole thing has just been a ramp up with two weeks? Yeah. Okay.
I don't know for sure where it's at. You know? I mean, uh That's uh If I knew for sure, then I would s I would say for sure. What's your uh No. Get that.
Get that look like you do. Let me know if you do, because I don't know for sure. It's been mysterious. I don't know for sure. It seems like none of us.
With anybody, you know, anybody would know, you would know. That's what I'm asking. No, no, that's not true. That's not true. Are you in a am I in somebody's body?
Am I a doctor? I've got a lot of... A lot of things that hang on my wall You know, but a medical degree is not one of them. Yeah. The Markov file.
That's quite the back and forth across the street. No contest wrestling. Check it out later, people. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Mm-hmm.
