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Now at number two, the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Craig Kilbourne's in our green room. We're going to bring him out shortly. And then Christopher McDonald. None other than Schutter McAvan is making his way to the studio for an hour number three appearance as well.
We've got a lot of fun for Craig. Craggers in store, Lord Kilby. Uh the man who used to call me Spark. Um Because he called everybody, Sparky, back in the day, is joining us shortly in advance of a 30 for 30 podcast. that is premiering next week uh called Chasing Basketball Heaven.
I think he wants to talk to some Vikings. Maybe should he do the win-loss game for the Vikings, maybe in the one round? A thousand percent. I mean, we got five questions. Uh, a brief celebrity true or false with Craig.
Uh, we have elements, we're gonna run the game, we have we have producing elements. That's coming up on this program. Love it. 844-204-Rich is the number of dialogue. Let's go to Manny in El Paso, Texas, one of our favorites.
Manny, you're on the Rich House. What's up, Manny? Happy Tuesday from an 85-degree day in Offecochers, gentlemen. How long was today? Did you say 85 degrees?
85 degrees. I was about to say, you probably signed for that. 85 seems chilly. For 85 on the year right now, but we're expected to hit apparently 103 today. There you go.
See what I mean? There you go. How's the traffic, manning on the twos? No, I'm just kidding. What's going on?
Well, first of all, I don't care about no family cute results. I don't care who won the show. Like store, when it comes to Sports Sock Radio, Rich Ivan Show brings the hammer, and that's a fact. Thank you, Manny. Thank you, Manny.
I don't see I don't see Dan Patrick getting any getting any Travis Matthew customized running man clothing. But so, hey, And by the way, that hat that they make for you, that the kids say, that's fire. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. We're soon going to have a link on the Instagram page for people to get that gear very shortly.
And there, yeah, look at that photograph of all of us with Steve Harvey. That's a dope picture. That is, that's pretty great. They get you and him in the middle. What's on your mind, Manny?
Well, I got two things. Uh remote drop question. What is a better remote drop movie? Die Hard or Armageddon? And for my second thing, are the Yankees gonna upset us?
I mean, there are times they play amazing baseball. There are times they they're uh on the summer snipe and then there are times where they stink on ice. Anyway, gentlemen, I love the show. You guys make my workday goal a whole lot smoother.
So I thank you for that. Appreciate it, Manny. I'll give you one last thing. Remember to hydrate and let's watch the sports, gentlemen. Have a good day, so I should take these one at a time.
Will the Yankees disappoint? Yes, they will. Yes, they will. As currently constructed, they do not put the ball in play nearly enough. They do not have the proper pitching depth.
Which is not a surprise when Gary Cole blew out his arm during spring training. The bullpen is not reliable enough. Anthony Volpe, we're still waiting for anything remotely close to half a Jeter 2.0, and he's not there. Uh third base. What is that?
I don't know who's on third. Yeah, right first. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know who's on third.
And what else? Where else can we go with that one? But listen, the last month has been dreadful. I think they went in the all-star break, losing 18 of their last 29.
So that ain't good. Um, what else did he say? Better remote drop movie, better remote drop movie, Army Dennis or Die Hard.
Well, it depends. Is it Christmas time? I mean yeah. Sure. I'd say Armageddon then, because Armageddon's more Armageddon's more of a Christmas movie.
I don't even know how you can say that still. All right. No, Die Hard is the remote. Absolutely. Correct.
Die Hard or Shawshang? What kind of mood am I in? Yeah, depends on how much time you got too. No, it doesn't. It's called a remote job.
No, because like if you pick Shawshank, you're really going to have to settle. You got to invest. Die Hard, it's like you can watch, you can play on your phone. I think your mood matters for those movies. But you were going to add another movie to that?
Yes, The Fugitive. Oh.
Well, considering I haven't seen that movie in like 10 years. What part of the movie am I picking up each at? In the tonnage. Ah, yeah, I like that. It wasn't me.
You know, don't make it more complicated. It was the one that means, oh, there's only 20 minutes left. I'll watch that one when there's 20 minutes left, but that one, it doesn't matter where I pick it up. Like, you know what I mean? Don't make it more complicated.
Spoiler alerts. You have to talk about it. I was buying myself time.
Okay. You're tap dancing. Tap dancing. I have no answer, both. I did two TVs and I watch both.
At the same time? Let's go to Arnett in Maryland. You're here on which I literally just called in, but it's what we kind of were gearing on talking about. This is what happens when phone callers steer us to the subject matter we were about to talk about. What's up, Arnett?
How are you guys doing? I called, I'm doing all right. I called last year. Mm-hmm. Um to talk about How Lamar Jackson was getting disrespected in the quarterback rankings, and how Joe Burrow had a Lin Sanity run.
And I'm back again because the executive list dropped and I have to get on my soapbox a little bit. Uh there's no reason Why Lamar Jackson is any less than two on anybody's ranking? I mean, how soon we forget this is his fourth time leading the league in rushing yards for attempt. He has one season with double digit interceptions. I mean, Everybody talked about Josh Allen's MVP.
This is his first season not throwing double-digit interception since pre-COVID. Um you know, we talk about the playoff struggles. Nobody remembers Tom Brady throwing two picks in the AFC Championship game. They remember the game-winning drive. They don't remember him throwing two picks in the Super Bowl versus Seattle.
They remember his game-winning drive. Yes. Lamar. Through the interception against Buffalo, Fine fumbled the ball. But with three minutes left, eighty eight yards to go, his two top receivers out of the game, he took his team down the field and scored.
Okay, the the playoff struggles thing. I think we need to throw it away. Back to back first team all pro. There's no reason why Josh Allen or Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow is not even in discussion. There's no reason why Josh Allen is hot ranked higher than him on any list.
We saw Josh Allen with the game on the line to go to the Super Bowl. He needed 40 yards to get a field goal, and he got 16. Enfield. Amar needs to get his respect. Arnett, thank you for calling in from Maryland, obviously right there in the heart of The East Coast, Mid-Atlantic, where Lamar's eight jerseys.
Uh everywhere. And I understand that. He's referring to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN annually getting the top ten quarterback list ranked by unnamed NFL executive coaches and scouts. And Lamar is fourth behind Burrow at three. Josh Allen, your reigning MVP at two, and Mahomes at one.
and rounding out the top five is Jaden Daniels. Matthew Stafford, six, Justin Herbert, seven Jared Goff, eight Janlin Hurts, 9. Baker Mayfield at 10. Lamar being fourth being below Joe Barrow. I understand why people would have a bone to pick there.
Um because you know It's been a while since Vurrows played an entire football season. Um Start to finish healthy, and the teams made the playoffs, right? Mm. And never won MVP. Correct.
And However, of Allen, Burrow and Jackson. One is played in the Super Bowl. That would be Joe Burrow. You could say Joe Burrow has more help at wide receiver. Out of Allen, Burrow, and Jackson.
Only one guy has actually prevented Patrick Mahomes from going to the Super Bowl. That would be Joe Burrow. And I think those are the things that have. Joe Burrow's back when the question of who's better Comes up maybe to executive scouts and coaches. Could you imagine if Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen had T.
Higgins and Jamar Chase? Yeah, Patrick Mahomes would probably only have one Super Bowl. I mean, these are fair conver this is th these are that's a fair point. Um to be put out there. I can't believe I'm saying this.
Spoke to you guys yesterday about this. If we could put the list back up, I know where you're going with this because I feel the same way. That's what that is. This is the bone I have a pick on this. May I guess what you're about to say?
I think you know. Jalen hurts at nine. Yeah. Jalen Hurts at night. Yeah, that's that's why is Justin Herbert on this list?
Jalen Hurts at nine. Is insane. Is insane. And this is for me. Jalen, it's just a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.
What's the sense of that? Is that he's. He's the game manager.
Some of the parts. Is that what it is? I heard something about his downfield throwing percentage. All these dumb A analytical stats. The bottom line is the dude won the Super Bowl.
He's outplayed Patrick Mahomes in two Super Bowls. And are we making this list based upon who throws the prettiest ball or who does everything like the correct way if you're having a video? Are you looking at results? This is a results-based league, right? I can't believe I'm.
Arguing for the angle like this. This is driving. But this is insane for being nine. I'd agree. Hertz at nine is too low.
I'd put him five. Or four. You know what I mean? Night in the Super Bowl. He should be number one.
You have him ahead of Joe Burrow. Lamar Jackson, I agree with the caller, Arnett. He's either one or two, I think, heading into the season. Jalen Hurts, you have a head of Joe Burrow? I don't know how you can't have Mahomes one.
No, I'm not going to argue that.
Sorry. But I'm just saying that. I'm sorry. 4-2 Hurts at 9 is just stupid. It's 3-4.
I would have Mahomes. Jaden 3. I want Jaden. I wouldn't have Mahomes. Mahomes is.
He's the man. Come on, man. He's the greatest quarterback in the history of the NFL in his 20s. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna say that. His numbers are better than Brady before turning 30.
Yeah, but how does that affect going into the 2025 season? Because He's that man. He's that kinda. He is. You don't think so?
I'm not saying he's not. I'm saying heading into this season, I kind of like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson a little bit better. That's all. And also, bro, it's not disrespectful at all. I don't want to ignore what you said.
You and I both talked about this. Herbert at seven when you got guys from Prescott who get crapped on constantly and somehow Herbert manages to scouts, coaches, executives. Tools, tools, tools. Exactly. There's no question.
Tools. Look at the tape. Watch the tape. Look at the tools. Look at the tape.
High weight. Yeah. Arm.
So this ability, are you basically? It hasn't translated into wins in January. Right. You know. And Jalen Hurts, you want to talk about January and February games.
All like I just got only guy on that list with 10 Touchdowns in the air. and rushing. In the playoffs. In his playoff career. He's got double-digit in the air on the ground in his playoff career.
Playoff career. It's nuts. I mean, look.
So him at nine is something. How about Baker at 10, though? I think that's some respect. I think Baker's had a couple really great seasons. Yes.
Statistically. Since taking over for Brady, by the way, he replaced the man there. But you know we're a baker-friendly program. We are. Over Stroud and Jordan Love.
are the honorable mentions. They're kind of all in that same group.
So, if one was 10 and the other and Baker wasn't, I think that would be fine too. They're all kind of in that. You know? You have to agree, Stafford six, right? Stafford right in the middle.
He is that guy. Yeah, give him that. He is that guy. He is the man. But Hertz at nine is particularly disrespectful.
You could talk me into Goff honorable mention or 10 and Baker at nine. I mean, golf has had a pretty good two-year run. He's had a pretty good run. How about this? Who do you move forward?
Obviously, that's the question of the moment. But how about this? Um The question's here. That's the beauty of this list. There's questions abound for all of them, right?
Mahomes. What's going to happen this year? Will they take another step back offensively? because of the what we saw the Super Bowl was so much of an obliteration is there a road map?
Okay. And what will this offense look like if Kelsey doesn't rebound? And if Rashi Rice needs more time to come back from a knee injury. Right. And if Xavier Worthy is still just, what, some sort of a speed demon?
Right. I mean, I'm coming up with the negatives here. These are the question marks. Josh Allen. Was last year.
I know this is crazy. You're going to hear it. Was last year a one-off? Laugh all you want, pal, because it's coming. It's coming.
Was it a one-off? Was it a one-off? Like the weapons still are not there, and we'll still need to see it again, as silly as it sounds. Borrow It's The guy didn't make the playoffs. Is he going to start?
Is he going to stay healthy? And are they going to start? They're going to actually get a win in September. You know, yeah, you're talking about maybe his Super Bowl season was a fluke. Lamar.
Wow. I mean, that's a harsh one, but I know what he's a Lamar. It's going to be like, can he finally do it? All right. Like, Super Bowl or bust for this guy now.
Yep. All right. Jaden Daniels. He's got the year two. Year two.
Year two. What do you got? Right. Stafford. To me, I mean, what's the question mark with him?
Are you a first ballot Hall of Famer? I don't. I mean, if he wins the Super Bowl this year, would you say that? Yeah, for sure. For sure.
You say that? Yeah. No. No. He wins the Super Bowl this year.
He'd win at least more than two to beat the Ballads. No, he's got all the passing rates. Look at how tough it is for some of these guys.
Well, Herbert's question is going to be: can you finally win a playoff game? A play-off game. Right. Goff, it's going to be: what about without Ben Johnson? Yep.
Yep. Okay. Uh and Jalen Hurts, man. I can't even imagine. To me, the question about Jalen Hurts and not Baker either, Stroud and Love, it's like: can we see a little bit more in the regular season from them?
Texans fans could say, yeah. How many of these guys made it to the final four of their conf their conference at back-to-back years. Scouts want to play off game each of his first corrections. Right. And with all the weapons in Trot Shadow, a lot of injuries.
A lot of injuries he's dealt with. But Jalen Hurts, the question for him is going to be, in my mind, is how much better Oh, yeah. And the chip. Yep. You know what I mean?
Like now, how much better is it going to be now? I don't think it's going to be anything other than another new offensive coordinator. That's true. I know. It seems like it's 17 years in a row.
This guy's got a new OC. Remember, I interviewed him game day morning for the Super Bowl, and I pointed out how he seems to have a different offensive coordinator every single year going back to college. And he's like, his answer to me before the Super Bowl was: tell me about it. Right. He gets it.
Yeah. You watch this as a don't film. Good stuff, gents. Good chat. Let's take a break.
Craig Kilbourne, everybody. Killer, let's get killer out here. Let's go. Look, I see. Craig Kilbourne, we're coming back.
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So, you know, we love talking movies around here. You know, we love talking comedy around here. We also love talking about classics around here.
So you know what I'm all about. That said, All of that said. You know how I must have felt when I was sitting in the movie theater like I was the other day watching the previews, and up came a preview. for the naked gun. with Liam Neeson as Frank Grebin, Junior.
That Preview had me at hello. I loved police squad back in the day. I loved the naked gun back in the day. And here comes the naked gun once again with yes, Liam Neeson as Frank Drebbin Jr. Come on now.
Son of the celebrated police squad, Lieutenant Frank Drebbin from the original movie. Paul Walter Hauser's in this movie, also Pamela Anderson. Guess who also makes an appearance? WWE superstar. Cody Rhodes, and the producer of the movie is Seth McFarlane, the creator of The Family Guy.
Come on now.
This is going to be so much fun. I'm excited to see The Naked Gun in theaters on August 1st.
So. What do you do on August 1st? Of course, you're going to a theater near you and you're seeing the naked gun. I might even be there. Craig Killerboard's here, everybody.
Yeah. Good to see you again. Thank you, sir. It's always, it's good to be home. It's good to be home.
It's like you got a podcast. The two voices you heard were these guys from Boston. I call them young people. They're in their 40s. And Rich Levine and Nick Altschuler?
Yeah, Altschuler. Very nice. Look at you. I had to rehearse that. It's just like in the 70s when I had to say Jan Cornwall.
I had to rehearse Nick Altschuler. Yes. Altschuler. And Rich Levine approached me and said, would you do this? And I would like to give back to the young people.
It's a very interesting story. It's a mysterious ending that I can't get into. I'm only in episode one. You only hear me once. Then it's a lot of voiceover that I did for this guy, Martin Manley, who only listened to James Taylor, very eccentric character.
Yes, sir. Only drank Pepsi. At the end of his life, last few years, wore a fedora, guy from Kansas, but he loved, loved the NBA. And I had never heard of him until this. And you love the NBA, too.
And so he was the guy, Craig Kilbourne here, by the way, on the Rich Islands show, the chasing basketball. Heaven is a new 30 for 30 podcast premiering next week on Tuesday, July 22nd. And he was all like, what did he do, Martin Manley? He came up with this concept of shooting threes instead of said how important the three-pointer is. And he wrote a book called Basketball Heaven.
And there's a clip of him on YouTube being interviewed on Turner Sports by Fred Hickman. And because he was viewed as kind of an expert on the NBA, you know, how some guys go a little deeper with the stats, and that's what he did early on. Right, okay. And so you play him on the pod or whenever he's yeah, okay. Slight, slight.
Kansas Twang. I grew up, I was born in Kansas, but I grew up in Minnesota. But we visit our cousins, and they had a little bit of a Twang, and Martin had a little bit.
So you did voice work for this, Craig? Did you do voice work for this? I just did what I was told. Team player. For ESPN.
Yes. How about that? Yeah, yeah. When was the last thing you did for ESPN? Before I get away from the market.
I took something from the vending machine. No, I don't know. Was it 1996? Is that the last time you did some free SPN? Yeah.
Look at that. Remember those This is Sports Center campaign? Of course. There was this one don't walk one. Craig, I was legitimately about to bring this up.
Oh, yeah. Because the first day of work. Yeah. I show up from Reading, California. Yeah.
My first day on the job, getting in there, my head's on a swivel. I'm like, I cannot believe that I have won the lottery basically for sports broadcasting. And I've been hired from Reading, California, and I'm going to be a sports center anchor. I walk into the newsroom. and you are walking through with the rest of the camera crew shooting.
The Don't Walk commercial, which was based on what, like Hands Across America or something like that? We are the world? My buddy Hank Perlman at the time worked for Wyden and Kennedy, the ad agency.
Now he has his own commercial, he's a commercial director, he has his own company called Hungryman. Yes. But He got Alan Brose. I don't remember that, of course. I remember Alan.
I left to go to the daily show, and they had to cut me out of Don't Walk, the campaign. And they were like, come on, man. I was like, just keep me in there. If it's such a hassle, keep me in. But they cut me out of Don't Walk.
But that's funny. That was your first day. It was my first day on the job. I'm like, what the hell is happening here? That's funny.
So, yeah.
So you got cut out of it because you walked. Wow. Right? See?
Well, I like to keep my pivot foot as much as possible, but Quick first, you never get you get a haircut and you know short haircut and you feel a step quicker. That quick first step like Stockton used to drive on Michael Jordan. I just feel great after a haircut. By the way, can I tell you something? This is for the guys here.
You guys like a good Rich Eisen story? Oh, boy. I have no idea where this is going. I am such a Rich Eisen fan. Like, if I go through my closet to get rid of clothes, I have some vests.
I say, these are nice vests. I'm going to give these to Rich. I'll give my old tube socks to Carl Ravich. But the vests, I'm going to give to Rich.
So I'm going to play for you my outgoing message. This is when people call me. This is. I think it's your best work.
Now, this, I used to have Dave Zinkoff on my voice. The Philadelphia 7. And forward, forward, you know, whirling devish. But anyway, so I have Rich on my outgoing message when you call.
So if Rayos from Hollywood calls and they say, Ms. Kilborne, did you want to leave a 35% tip? And I say, yes, that's fine.
So I think this is your best work. I don't know if you'll be able to hear it. Just play it up to the microphone. You'll hear it. You'll be able to hear me.
Wait a second. Let me go back here.
Okay. Here we go. I had no idea. I was not working out. If I'm not playing there, I go to this other place.
Control. Interceptor. Take control. Tell the swimming. Six time.
Please leave a message at the beep.
Okay, good production value. Rich, Rich, it's Van Ginkle. I was actually up in Carmel hanging out. It was 6.30 or 8.30. You're doing the game in London.
And do we love saying Van Ginkle? By the way, I always think of Ray Finkel, laces out Ray Finkel from Ace Venture. You know, with his hair, he's the king of the pick sixes. You know, I'm glad I nailed the call, at least, on that one. Van Ginkle picks off Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, Van Ginkle's pretty special. He's cat quick coming off the line. And so there's the outgoing message. It's either really that I really do that, or it's just for this show, the production, whatever you guys want. You know, we're going to believe that you really do.
Whichever is a better story. I'll take it.
Well, I'm honored, Craig. Thank you for that. You do a great job. Do you enjoy doing those games? I do love doing those.
You're going over there again? It's not yet announced, but I'm doing two of them. Oh, cool. In London. The Vikes are playing back-to-back games in the world?
They are the first team in the history of the National Football League to be playing back-to-back weeks in Europe in two separate countries. That's never happened. They're going from Ireland, and then they're going to the UK. They're playing the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers, so Van Ginkle can get them again. Yes.
And then after that, they head to London and take on the Browns.
So that's that's that's that right there. It's so interesting because I really believe we love KOC. He's only awesome. He's 0-2 in the playoffs, but we love him. Yeah, yeah.
Great coach. Love Brian Flores. And we seem to be kind of stacked. We went out and got a really good offensive line. We spent some money.
And I come to you, Rich, and I just say a lot of pressure on J.J. McCarthy. Oh, yes. I love him. You're going to love him.
He's going to be great. I truly believe it. I know he's got a lot placed on him. I totally get it. But he's somebody who is ready for the challenge.
And he's really a mindful kid. And I think he's going to be that. That person who's in excellent Avatar for what Kevin O'Connell wants to do. He is a deep, I don't know if he's a deep thinker, but he quotes a lot of famous philosophers. And my advice to him is: you better start quoting Larry Bird if you want to take it to the next level.
You go up to Patrick Mahomes and you just say, you're playing for second place, man. I need Larry Legend in there because he's doing a lot of these Socrates and all this stuff. Right. But we're excited. I don't know.
So, are you saying J.J. McCarthy would be upset if a white guy is pass-rushing him? Because didn't he famously not like that? What a great reference to that. Did you like that one?
Larry Legend always was like, You're putting the white guy on me? There's only one Larry. There's only one Larry Legend.
Someone said, Rick Riley once said it, and I think Costa said it, and all this, but. You take Michael Jordan, the greatest player of all time. Yes. Larry's a better shooter, passer, and rebounder. If you break that down, because Larry was a pure shooter, shot a higher percentage from the free throw line, unbelievable passer, better rebounder.
Obviously, Jordan's the best, but I don't know if you can name a player. Who's better than Larry? In those three categories. Did you ever meet him? You ever meet Larry?
I did meet him once. When was that? That was out at the Smokehouse in Burbank. Wow, good place. Another friend of mine, Stacey Wall, was shooting a commercial for Budweiser.
And they said, you know, Larry, the dialogue is these two guys noticing Larry Bird. Larry's sitting in a booth, and he just needs to talk with someone, and I want him to have fun.
So just chat with him. And you won't hear the audio. Yeah, I asked him every question I've ever wanted to ask him. Yeah, like, did you, you know, he bent his finger and he broke it playing softball at Indiana State right before the NBA draft. His pointer finger here.
And I, I, you know, the his friends in college said, oh, he shot well in the NBA, but you should have seen him in Indiana State. He never missed because it didn't heal properly and it's bent. And I asked him about that. Yeah. I asked him about shooting left-handed against Portland because he said, I'm just going to play left.
And he said, I saved my right hand for the Lakers. He has a bunch of lines. Hilarious. Wasn't that a bet? Didn't you bet?
Was that Shaughnessy he bet? Like, I can, or is that. Why am I was it Ryan was it Bob Ryan told him Bob Ryan told a story that he he made a bet with a reporter that he would shoot only left-handed against a certain team or Something like that. It was the legend. Yeah, and they tell the story, and it was up at Portland because they had finished their road trip, the West Coast road trip.
This was the last game. And when Bill Walton tells the story, he goes, Poor Jerome Kersey. He was scoring like through three quarters, he had 27 points left-handed. Craig Kilbourne here on the Rich Eisen Show. We're just chasing basketball heaven right now.
That's all we're doing. It's a new for 30 podcasts that premieres next week on Tuesday, July 22nd. I just love that you mentioned Hank Perlman's name and Alan Brose. Those were two of the individuals who are behind that This Is Sports Center campaign. And I just remember, again, when I went there and those guys would show up and it was time to shoot Sports Center commercials, they would have this book of all the 10, 12 spots that they were going to shoot.
And they would always hold it right to their vest, like it's a poker hand. They didn't want anybody to see what was going on because it was always a question for. for us sports center hackers. Like, are we going to be in these? And which one am I going to be in?
And is it a speaking role? Yes. Or am I just background with like, you know, the Philly fanatic? You know what I mean? Yeah.
And we all wanted to be in as many of them as possible. Right. But you know, I always thought to myself, you never had to worry about that. You knew you were going to be in a bunch of well, the guy, Hank Perlman, is still a friend of mine. And what I didn't know, he was at, again, he was at the ad agency White M.
Kennedy in Portland. And, you know, he lives in New York now. He loves New York. Right. But he moved out to Portland.
And he wanted me to do the, I met him, he came to town, he goes, he wanted me to do the voiceover for ESPN hockey promos. And I said, well, I'm not the hockey guy. He goes, I don't care. I want you to do them.
So we kind of became friends. We have fun arguments, and he's kind of silly. Like, he'll argue about he thinks Paul McCartney is the fourth most talented Beatle because he doesn't like Paul McCartney and he makes himself look bad. He's kind of a malcontent sometimes, but he's very funny, very talented. Which commercial did you?
Are you most proud of that you were in? Which one did you like? What is Craig Kilboyne's Number one sports center commercial. He was reminding me the other day, Hank, because I put up one on my iconic Instagram, Mr. Craig Kilborn.
I put up the one where I. You heard Charlie Steiner and Bob Lee. On the phone, doing some very intense stories, breaking some intense stories. And I interrupt, I say, Excuse me, you guys prefer hurt me or spank me. And Charlie goes, spank me, and Bob goes, spank me.
So that was when I put up. But Hank liked one where I was talking to somebody in a soft tone saying, How old are you? Do you need tickets? I'll give you a tour. I was talking to some young co-ed, and he liked that one a lot.
I like the Glenn Jacobs one. Where Glenn Jacobs, who was a production assistant at the time. Yeah, he and I. One of the many you referred to as Sparky, if I'm not sure. Yeah, I was very dismissive with him, and I told him he should get a new career, two words pizza delivery, something like that.
Was that in the line, or did you add Leb Pizza Delivery? Oh, I could say, oh, yeah, let's give it to Hank, a team player. Give it to Hank. Dear player. Oh, man.
Yeah. I remember that the first Sports Center commercial that I was in was the one where we passed Kerry Strugg around. Yeah. Remember, she, you know, because Bella Caroly carried her in his arms after she hurt herself in the Olympics. And we were passing her amongst all of the on-air anchors.
And the last one, I think it was Gary Miller, passed her to the Michigan State Spartan mascot. And that was the end of it. And I think her mom wasn't behind the scenes not happy about her being passed around amongst a bunch of sports center anchors in the newsroom. That one went well. I mean, it was as good as any.
Craig Kilbourne here on the Rich Island Show. We have some elements. We have some producing elements for you. Love when you guys put the effort in. You guys are great.
Well, the effort is I might have just called somebody from our past and say, hey, how would you like to help produce a segment with Craig Kilbourne? I love Gus. We love Gus. I love Gus as well. First one we have for business for Craig Kilbourne.
We play a little game around here called Celebrity True or False, where we ask about things from your history and see if they are true or false. And we've got some excellent production value because I know you appreciate production value. Yeah. Roll it. Go for it.
Celebrity, true or false. You can't handle the truth. All right, celebrity true or false with the one and only celebrity, Craig Kilbourne. Just got two for you here.
Okay. All right, first up, true or false, Pooh Richardson once sent you a fruit basket as a thank you for all the shout outs you gave him on Sports. That is true. That is true. A poo fruit basket.
And I immediately gave it to Carl Ravich. Why? Because you're not a fruit guy? I don't eat fruitcake. But it's a fun word.
Was it like an actual basketball? Like you're sitting in Bristol, Connecticut one day, or you're in the offices in a fruit basket to the city. Was it a fruitcake or a fruit basket? What was your question? A fruit basket.
You said a fruit basket. I thought it was a fruitcake. Yeah, it was a fruit basket. And I gave it to Carl because I'm a good person. And there he is.
Played for the wolves, played for the Clippers, knock, knock, poo's there. We did all of them. And then people would toss them to me, the cold and poo season. Pooh Pooh Kachoo. That might have been the best.
That might have been the best one, right? Pooh Pooh Kachu.
So that would be true. Yeah. I sent you a fruit basket. Thanks for all the mentions on Sports Center. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, my God. All right. Second one for Craig Kilbourne. True or false, Robin Williams once sent you an autographed Jumanji movie poster that's framed. And he just followed up the poo story by saying, and I also got, but yes, that is true.
He did. Yeah. No kidding. Do you still have it somewhere? No.
These things were in the garage. I don't collect a lot of memorabilia. You know, I have from the CBS Late Late show. I think they're worth something. But a lot of NBA jerseys So, when the Sixers played against the Lakers in the finals, that's when Alan Iverson stepped over Tyron Lew in the corner.
Right. The Sixers, we had somebody on from the Sixers, not Iverson, but they brought me a jersey, Sixer jersey with my name on it, signed by Alan Iverson.
So I have a bunch of, at least eight jerseys. Yes. Are they worth anything? They're in the garage. What should I do?
eBay charity or what? Should I go to give them to charity or just bring them in here? We'll assess. Yeah. We'll take a look at it.
Is it worth something? Probably. You've got like a jeweler's loop? Yeah, exactly. For a jersey or something like that?
We'll go over with a fine comb tooth and we'll figure it out. I've got a Kevin Love jersey signed, Timberwolves jersey signed.
Okay. Yeah. Bunch of them. Do we know if Robin Williams was just a fan or a discussion? I assume it was the.
Right. Promotion company, the people in that department saying, Robin, just sign this. We're sending it to this guy that you know nothing about. You never know. And so you and Gus got together and decided, like, I'm going to say Jumanji when a ball started.
Well, I don't want to ruin it for people. I had a lot of these in my head, but I always encouraged Gus. And in the control room, he just whispered it in my ear right before the show. Gus is a genius. We would do pop culture references.
I remember after, I thought Letterman did a great job hosting the Oscars, and sadly they never invited him back because, you know, they criticized him. For the Uma, Oprah, Oprah. That's the one I did for Stockton Malone, Uma Oprah. Yeah, I did that. For Stockton and Malone?
Yeah, Stockton Malone, Uma, Oprah. Yeah. But. Joyous times. Craig, I have nothing to do with it.
It doesn't like staying awake till 2 a.m.
Well, you did 2:30. Yeah. It wasn't 2 a.m. They were the 2:30 half-hour sports centers before they got re-aired all throughout the day. Yeah.
Can you imagine there's a ESPN used to put a nine- Hour-old program on in the late morning. Yeah. You know, like that, that would never happen again. Yeah. That will never happen again.
But that's what you, you just were paving the way. Yeah. Craig. You're just paving the way, Craig. Back to ESPN again, 30 for 30 podcast.
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Not available in all states. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, right here on the Roku Sports Channel. Craig Kilbort, hanging out with us for the rest of the hour. Did um, how many SPs did you ever go to? Did you ever go to an Espy or no?
No, never once. Never went to ESPN. I was asked to host it once when I was at the daily show.
So you left ESPN? Yeah. They cut you out of the don't walk commercial because you had the temerity to walk. And then they circle back and say, Would you like to wind up hosting the Espies anyway? And they said, Don't tell people.
I declined. I was busy. I didn't want to do it. I was trying to focus on the daily show, but they said, Please don't tell people. Asked you to do it.
And I haven't. Until today, so how many years is that? That's about 20.
Well, I've been gone 22 years, yeah. Um.
So, this has got to be over a quarter century old piece of news. Yeah. Okay. You pulled it out of me, Rich. Look at this.
The internet. Don't tell everybody. I think the statute of limitations or the non-disclosure. No, no, I would disagree with that.
Okay. I would disagree with that.
So you were asked to host an Espes. Was it back in Radio City, back in the days? I was in New York and it was at New Radio City. Oh my gosh. Who was it?
Was it Walsh? Don Walsh? Ask you. No. Who was it?
Moraman? The guy who went to the NFL network? Fred Godelli. No? Oh, bigger than that.
Asked you to do it. Rich, do an imitation of Steve. You'll do the show. I mean, I don't care if you left, whatever. My favorite.
My favorite Balboa of Steve. No, no, Steve. I don't know. I got this cough I can't get rid of. Steve Bornstein is my rabbi.
He's smart enough, he hired me twice. Oh.
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. The SPN and NFL network.
Okay. So that would have been wild because, you know, Stu and I were. As Dan and Keith called themselves, the old Muppet men up in the uh up in up in the Radio City, you know, side uh side booth. Yeah. Um, and when Dan and Keith were done with that show, Stewart and I did it.
They did the pre and post show, you know, that's great at the Espy Awards. That's great. Yeah. So, wow. Could have looked down and seen you on the stage of Radio City Music Hall.
Look at that. I know you did the Cable Ace Awards one year. I did that. That one, I know. Yeah, yeah.
Because I was sitting in the. The audience with John Walsh and Norby Williamson, who are former executives at ESPN. Um and uh John is one of my favorite people on the planet. And I was sitting in between them as Sports Center lost to MLB Network for the first time. They were not happy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if it was a cable ice, they wanted it, you know?
So you were on the stage, I remember that. Yeah. Craig Kilborn. We go way back like a car scene. It's we're getting we're getting older, but we look the same.
I agree.
Well, I'm just trying to follow your lead, sir.
So, okay, we've got. I have one J.J. McCarthy question for you. Sure. What do you got?
Is it going to be better in bow nicks? I'm surprised that Bonix was that good.
Okay. Yes. I have more than one question, but what is the ceiling? I'm a Troy Aikman fan, both as a broadcaster but as a football player. I loved his pass to Alvin Harper in the championship game up at Candlestick Park when they went on to win a Super Bowl.
Yes. But Will he be as good as Troy Aikman? Because everyone's a lot of people. He's a Hall of Famer, Craig. I mean, you're raving about the champion home.
Listen, how good is he going to be? All I can tell you is: this is a kid. Who's still a kid?
So, when you're talking about Troy Aikman, that's very high, praise. Back on the Rich Eisen Show Radio Network with Craig Kilbourne asking me, is J.J. McCarthy going to be as good as Troy Aikman? I can't tell you he's a Hall of Fame quarterback, clearly. What I can tell you is, and you asked, is he going to be better than Bo Nicks?
Bo Nicks, the reason why he was good in two different ways, in my estimation, is one, the coach he was attached at the hip to is Sean Payton Aces. Two, he also had 60 starts in college. JJ doesn't have that, but what JJ had was two stellar seasons with Jim Harbaugh in his ear. And now he's bringing what he did obviously at Michigan to the next level and he's attached to the hip. With the reigning coach of the year, who is dynamite when it comes to connecting with a quarterback.
So the fact that he's got Kevin O'Connell in his ear and Jim Harbaugh in his DNA. Is some outstanding footing. And he's also a kid. You know, he put like a smiley face on his hand to remind himself to get out of your head. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Because he said he used to take football way too seriously. Yeah. And so he's mindful. He's mindful, he's athletic.
He's got a big heart. And he also knows that what's in front of him. And I don't think he's like, you know, I'm a national champion. Look out. He knows he's got to earn it.
And he knows he's got a quarterback coach slash quarterback. and coach together. With Justin Jefferson right there and terrific. Um you know, teammates around him.
So he's set up is what I'm saying.
Okay, a couple things. I heard someone say he can be just if he's just an average quarterback or slightly above average, solid, Vikes are going to do well. Like, don't screw it up. Correct. And the other thing is, if I'm KOC, Especially at the beginning, especially at Soldier Field at Chicago.
Monday night. Monday night. Run the ball, like protect him a little. Run the ball. Yeah.
And then pick your spots. Right. I mean, obviously, and they picked up Jordan Mason from San Francisco. Yes. So you can split the carries amongst you know, with Aaron Jones, who's terrific.
They're set up for success. I just, I can't tell you that J.J. McCarthy is going to be a Hall of Famer, but obviously I love the kids. There's one other stat I want you to know. You probably know this.
You know, they said he didn't pass a whole lot in Michigan because of quite a bit, right? But the stat was on third down. He was really effective on third turn. Terrific. And he also had weapons that he would find.
And, you know, he beat Ohio State a couple times, and one time with his arm in Columbus and shut the whole place down. And it was great. You know, but that. That's my opinion of J.J. McCarthy for you right there.
844-204-Rich is the number to dial. It's furnished by Granger with professional-grade products for every industry Granger has your covered. Call clickranger.com or just stop by. I've got five questions for you, Craig, before we go out of Dodge right here, if you don't mind. I don't mind.
And I'll get in trouble if I don't mention my mighty Timberwolves. We've back-to-back Western Conference finals. Yes, sir. As my friend Kyle Tyge likes to say, these are the golden years of the Timberwolves. And maybe, just maybe, we'll win a championship in the next few years.
Who knows? Craig Kilbourne is a. Taping for his T-Wolves. Why not? All right, five questions with Craig Kilbourne.
I need some music, Mike. Why don't you play the music you play for Chris when it's a non-NFL piece of business for our top five lists and stuff like that? Five questions with Craig Kilbourne, everybody. Here we go. First one: start bench cut.
Bud Grant, Mike Zimmer. Kevin O'Connell. Stockbench cut.
Well, that's a really tough one. I'm a big fan of Mike Zimmer. And because he used to sleep at the office, and he's tough as nails. This is really difficult. I can't.
Bud Grant, I have to show respect. I'm going to start Harry Bud Grant, horseshoe Harry, played for the Minneapolis Lakers, led the team to the Super Bowl numerous times. If he would have had his version of Spygate, we would have won a Super Bowl. Just to stay pop, I'll no, no, I have to bench KOC. I'm going to cut Zim only because he's retired, but I love Mike Zimmer.
Understood. The correct answer is anything. Any order would have been correct.
Okay. That's the game seriously. I don't cop out. Any of them. Number two for five questions, Craig Kilbourne.
You can listen to only one Barry Manilow song for the rest of your life. Which one do you pick? I'm glad you asked because I always choose one that's not quite as popular. It's called Somewhere in the Night. We'll just go on Burrington Somewhere in the Night.
A lot of modulation, a lot of crescendo. I interviewed him. And I said, you build and you break through the wall, you modulate at the end. And I'm on a mana high when I listen to mana low. And he said, you get me, Craig.
And backstage, when he met me, he looked up and said, You're such a tall boy. Anywho, bear Manalow. Unfortunately, the correct answer was Mandy. Yeah, Mandy. She came and she gave without taking.
But the key thing also is there's always a key change. Don't forget the key change in the Manalow songs. There's always a key change. Modulation, both. Modulation.
All right, number three and five: questions with Craig Kilborner: Bear versus Trampoline, scary or hysterical? For me, because I'm a little more sophisticated than people, civilized, I think it's scary. The young people love it. It's an old video we used to show on the Late, Late Show. There it is.
They think it's hysterical.
So, what's your answer? I just gave.
Okay, scary. If I can do anything with Bench Starter Cut, I can say anything I want. But I'm saying, for me, for me, it's. For the kids, it's hysterical.
Okay, that's the correct answer. Hysterical. Here's the geography question.
Okay, number four: within 10. How many municipalities are there in the great state of Montana? Within 10. 23. 129 is the correct answer.
All right. You're counting Butte? Craig Kilbourne, everybody. Fantastic. Five questions with Craig Kilbourne right here to close out our number two on the Rich Eisen Show.
Here we go. Last one on your last late, late show. You danced one last time. What was the song you danced to? Ooh.
Um I think it was By the Ohio players love roller coaster. Yes! Wow. Okay. finish You got it right.
Wow. I love a roller coaster. By the Ohio Players. Remember that song? Of course.
You're a kid. I don't know if you know this stuff. Oh, hire a player. Wasn't that fun down memory line here? It's Tuesday.
It's a tall boy. It's Tuesday, and I just want to dance, dance. Yeah. Why'd you choose that song? I just something about some of the instrumentals, the arrangement made me laugh.
It was easy to love roller coaster. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Love roller coaster. Love roller coaster.
We'd have some of the guests come out, like Carmen Elektra, to Me So Horny by Two Live Crew. What's the guy's name? What's Campbell? Luke? Luke Skywalker.
Luke Campbell's name. Uncle Luke. He sued the production company. It was a long process because we were kind of taking chances at the beginning with walkout music.
Okay. And we were playing Miso Horny when Carmen Elektra would walk out of one of the Victoria Supermodels and we'd play that song because it made us laugh. And then we got sued and I didn't.
Well, Worldwide Pants did. Worldwide Pants.
So Letterman got sued. Yeah, yeah. Did you hear from Dave? Not on that, but we didn't. I don't know what happened after that.
We just played, we played really basic music, like generic music or something. Permission rather than forgiveness? No, thank you. You know what I mean? Like, you got to do it the other way around sometimes.
Yeah. You're making omelets, man. Yeah. Some eggs out of get cracked. Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter. Craig Kilbourne, as I live and breathe. A new 30 for 30 podcast premieres next week, next Tuesday, July 22nd, Chasing Basketball Heaven, and the Life Gorgeous Podcast. With Craig Kilbourne. That's available everywhere.
You get your podcast. Great to see you, brother. Great to see you, too. I love that right there. The ascot, the drink, the whole thing.
Get that wherever you get your podcast. Great to see you, Craig Kilbourne. Thank you, sir. Anytime right here on the Rich Eisen Show, when you go back in the green room, is he here already? Christopher McDonald's back there.
Oh, cool. It shall be indeed. The great Christopher McDonald coming up here in hour number three on the Rich Eisen Show. 844-204-Rich is the number to dial right here. Don't you dare go anywhere.
Craig Kilbourne is here on the program. And good to see you, pal. Thanks, brother. You got it. Did you park?
Do you need validation? I'm good. You sure? Yeah. That's what you do in Los Angeles.
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