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What are you smoking, bro? Give me something. Earlier on the show. Atlanta Falcons head coach Arthur Smith. Academy Award winning actor Casey Affleck.
Coming up. Co-host of Good Morning Football, Kyle Brandt. And now. And Mr. Rich, I said.
It's happened. It's just a terrible day on the playing surface for TJ. But thankfully, it was not at all a harbinger, to use the phrase or a word that my English teacher used to use back in the day. Wasn't a bellwether for our program. I think we've had a fun first two hours, and our third hour should be equally as interesting and intriguing and dynamite because Kyle Brandt of Good Morning Football and 10 questions with Kyle Brandt's going to be joining us.
He's been kind enough to call in pretty much every damn near week here throughout the football season. That culminates next week with Super Bowl 55. Um Chris, do you have the Scotty Miller stuff in your new news or no? Oh, I haven't seen it.
Okay, well, because no, no, no, it's all right. I'll just hit it right here. Because, you know, as Aaron Rodgers pointed out yesterday when he chimed in on McAfee's show, as he always does. Um that uh it's a slow week. This is a slow week.
Okay. We're waiting. We're all waiting. I mean, we want Brady versus Mahomes this weekend. Why the hell not, right?
Let's go. Let's go. LFG, to use the longtime Brady phrase. And um and so uh we're we're we're waiting on anything. Scotty Miller says he's going to be the fastest man on the field for the Super Bowl.
He said what now? The fastest man on the field in the Super Bowl. On his team, you mean? The fastest man on the field in the Super Bowl. At what?
At like running or running? Eating cheeseburgers? Brockman, I missed your news report that Tyreek Hill's not playing in the Super Perry. And Tyreek has responded basically good for him. Did he really say that?
Yes, you did. I guess we've never, maybe Scotty Miller's got wills that we don't know about. Ask a Green Bay Packer fan. How fast is it? Right.
It is pot I mean, I wouldn't bet my money on it, but Ask a Packer fan how if you don't call the proper defense, he's just going to run right by you.
So This is what's filling the void. better than me versus Usain Bolt, which was a way to fill the void a couple of years ago, but Um And by the way, we're cultivating a caper to try and figure out how to keep run-rich run going despite the combine. I had a great chat with. On that subject is the third day on the way in.
So we're going to see how we can keep it going. Up front, there you go. There you go. 844-204-Rich is the number to dial here on the show. Kyle Brandt's on.
Arthur Smith was on an hour number one. Uh he did not He didn't go that Matt Ryan was the quarterback for the moment, but he said that everyone's going to get evaluated. Chris, we kinda didn't It's the guy. Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Deshaun Watson. could all be on the move.
Oh, man.
Some good quarterbacks. If that happens, who wants him? Who wants them? Where do they land? Oh man, if that happens, Sam Donald could be on the move if one of those moves.
Happens. Remember last year, the Tom Brady question was the domino that could go everywhere. The Titans just said, we're keeping Ron Tanno. You know, and so they stayed put. And then the Domino Of Brady being here for the Chargers.
Right. That led to when he signed with the Buccaneers to them because we thought, okay, if he's not coming, they'll sign Cam Newton. They did not do that. As we all know, they've got Justin Herbert, which made them a hot destination to be a Head coach, who wants to be the guy who's got Justin Herbert attached to your hip?
Well, Brandon Staley said he'll do it and then they agreed, you can do it. Adam Schefter had tweeted out kind of a graphic with some names on it a couple of days ago about quarterbacks whose futures are in question. Go for it.
So we can take Aaron Rodgers' name off, right?
Well, I mean, his long-term future. Sure, but just for next year. Because saying there are ten quarterbacks locked in. For their 2021 position, these guys could be on the move. Deshaun Watson, Matthew Stafford, Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo, Cam Newton, Teddy Bridgewater, Mitch Trubisky, Jameis Winston, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Alex Smith, Ben Rothesburg.
Those are all facts, except I don't know about Dak. I think the Cowboys are gonna I mean, by the way, until they don't, excuse me. Anything's possible. The only reason why they would do. Move on from Dak.
Well, obviously, Adam has got his ear to the ground, to say the least, more firmly planted than mine. But Um Which one of those quarterbacks would you take over, Dak? If you're Dallas. Wow. Watson?
Right? Yes. What else? Name me that list again. You're the Cowboy fan.
I'm listening. Go for it.
Read that list again. Here we go. No, that's from an old day. Nice, nice.
So, Matthew Stafford. No way. No, no, no, no. Come on. Stop.
I said, no. Yeah, he's 33. No, but you also went higher registered. I like Matt Stafford. I don't want to make that sound disrespectful.
Okay. Sam Darnold. Come on, B. Carson Wentz. Disrespectful.
Come on, Carson Wentz, right. Carson Wentz? Oh, who? Jared Goff. Please.
Went to the Super Bowl. Jimmy Garoppolo? It's Cam? I mean, maybe six years ago. Teddy Bridgewater?
I mean, he's a nice guy, Teddy Two Gloves, but no. Mitch? Ha ha. Jameis. That's magic.
Oh, he stopped on Jameis. No, he didn't. Alex Smith, Big Ben. Alex Smith and Big Ben are two that would be a no and retire. No, that's what I'm saying.
Deshaun Watson's the only way that the Cowboys could pause and say, let's not. Let's not figure out the long-term arrangement with Dak coming off of his awful injury. Yeah. Yeah, because Deshaun already has a deal in place. Please.
That's the only well, he has a contract. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Cowboys would obviously acquire his contract. Right. Other than that, I mean But the fact that Dak's on that list means Adam's hearing something.
That's a fact. That's true. Wow. But Matt Ryan, is Matt not even on that list then? Not even on that list?
That's.
Well, Arthur Smith, again, in the first hour, I said, is he your guy? Like, as I said, did he talk? Did you talk about him? And then he didn't give a definitive answer.
So I literally said, then let me just hit it directly. Yeah. point blank. Is he your quarterback? And he said he's going to be like everyone else evaluated at the position.
Because the idea, I mean, he's just like he can come up with an offense to make sure Ryan. is successful. You know, using your players and being Flexible. But Ryan Tannehill met Ryan E. And everyone could say, 'Oh, Tannehill Bob, Ryan Tannehill.' Was doing stuff that Josh Allen was doing this year.
Running and throwing. He can run it in. He could throw it in. He's. I'm telling you, folks, everyone can say that based on what we saw in the Arthur Smith coordinated offense, Ryan Tannehill is up there as a two-way running-passing threat with Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.
That's a fact. I didn't stutter. Matt Ryan's not running. Ye no, he is not. Neither is Matt Stafford.
You're dropping back and you're slinging, and you're throwing for 400 yards and you're trying to figure out if you can win that way. And in 2021, you know. Uh I Look, I want somebody who can do it both. I want someone who can run and throw. That's the way this is now.
Even though we are about to see potentially a Super Bowl won again by a 43-year-old who drops back. I get it. I understand. I mean, you could probably, of course, Super Bowl crazy prop bets. I bet Tom Brady rush yards is the prop bet, and it's probably like two and a half.
You know what I mean? And Brady, Brady, as you know, you know when Brady. Do you know when Brady? You know when Brady kneels down, he does not step back and kneel down because he knows it's a lost yard. That's how crazy he is.
He gets right at the line of sound. He doesn't, he just goes right down.
So he doesn't get credit for minus one. I lost the fantasy football game once because of that. But that he because he somebody step back. Took a knee three times in a row. He had rushing yards and just kept losing them.
Let's go to our friend Manny in El Paso, and then we'll get to your news, Christopher.
Okay. Manny in El Paso, what's up, Manny? I know you've been hanging out a while. What's up? Buenas taros al nejo programa de portes, like a major.
We are doing well. Ladies and gentlemen, we have our Super Bowl matchup.
Well done. I'm all in for it. The weird part is, I'm rooting for Tom Brady. This reminds me of the time when Joe Montana went to play with the Chiefs. He wasn't hated for it.
People were rooting for him, and they wanted to see if he could do it. Uh but Why do I feel like the invisible hand of Roger Goodell had some type of role in getting the headlines he wants for his brand? I'll tell you what. I don't know. No, man.
I'll tell you what. If there's anybody who is on their hands and knees begging for this, even though Rogers and the Packers are... And thanks for the call, man. I appreciate you hanging out as long as you're going to be able to do it. Let's go.
I know. Look, look, look. Tom Brady, everyone has. And Rogers, no slouch.
Okay. And the Packers fans are everywhere. They literally are everywhere. That's the one thing about the Bucs is they don't have a fan base as long and vast and large and deep and history and, you know, and. Families that have been passing down season tickets to the other over decades and Eras and Tidal Town, and they don't have people who grew up in New Jersey who get the pet rock of the NFL, which is shares in the Green Bay Packers, you know, and giving them money.
Like, they don't have the Buccaneers don't have that.
Okay, true. They don't have that. What they have is Tom Brady. And CBS has got to be over. The moon.
Over the moon. Again, the Packers' fan base is huge, and Rodgers is huge, and all of that. And You know, Rodgers does commercials in a way that Tom Brady doesn't, and that means something. I mean, the casual fan. And base, you know, if I was baseball, I'd have all my stars do commercials just like.
Mahomes and, you know, and Baker and Rogers and whatever. Baseball just that's for another day. But I think CBS is out of their minds for this matchup right now. I think. This was their ideal matchup, right?
Again, like I said. Brady in it is you can't just sit here and and say Green Bay does not have a fan base that would Turn the television set on. But I think there's a lot of people with a curiosity factor who are now rooting for Brady in a way that they never thought they would imagine they would do that because he's no longer Belichick's. Or they're still rooting against the Patriots. You watch to see him lose.
I don't know how many people are doing that. People hate watch Brady because he was a patriot and the flate gate and the spy gate and the Belichick stuff. And now that's. He's removed.
Now it's with Bruce Aryans. He's calling in, you know, dropping lines like he's in Cheech and Chang when I asked him, you know, could you believe you're in this right now? That's true. That's true. You're right.
You know, I'll have what you're smoking or whatever. What are you smoking, bro? Give me something. There you go. You've never said that.
Let's just put it this way: you've never, from Lloyd Carter or Bill Belichick, heard Tom Brady's coach talk that way. Is that going to top our Jerry Jones as our favorite? Yeah, it's up there. I like settled down. All right, you got Dr.
Jones with my rubber glove is going to make sure every one of you are safe. There you go. Thank you very much. That's my favorite. That's Jerry about protocols.
All right, you ready for a quick news update over there, Chris? Super Chris Brockman. Let's get a quick news update here on the Rich Isen Show. And now, with a report of the day's news from the world of sports and entertainment, someone who is not a journalist or newsman by any definition of the word whatsoever, it's Chris Brock. How do you get over there, Christopher?
Okay, real quick. Bill's GM Brandon Bean was talking today, kind of an end-of-the-season presser. Wouldn't comment on whether or not they're going to work on an off-season extension for Josh Allen. Did say, though, that he thinks his quarterback hasn't reached his ceiling. Just yet.
You'd have to agree with him on that. I know that GMs talk up their quarterbacks. I would say the sky is still the limit. Of course. Yeah.
Absolutely. Worst games Josh Allen played this year against the Chiefs. Yeah, he was 0 for 2. Right? And you could say the same thing.
that whenever the Ravens have played against the Chiefs, those are some of Well Although one year the Ravens were about to beat the Chiefs, and if you remember, it was like a fourth and 20 that Mahomes found Tyreek Hill. Remember that? Yeah. Again, you can't.
Sometimes it's like, oh, that's a G, I'm just talking up as player. But you have to say that the the game that Allen played in the playoffs that he's now Three games in his playoff career. He's now one and two. The first one, he had a dynamite game, but then made too many mistakes towards the end to let Houston back in and win in overtime. And then, and there was an awful play.
It was an awful penalty, right? On some sort of illegal hit by one of the linemen in the overtime. Remember that game? It looked like the Bills were going to. take the lead in overtime.
Um but that was in two years ago in Houston. Sky's the limit. I think that town in. Where there's no plaque or signpost for Mo Green, Josh Allen might be one of the top. Favorites to win the MVP in 2015.
I think you're right. And also, it might behoove the Bills to get this deal done before the price tag goes up. He is entering the last year of his rookie deal. Of course, his fifth-year option will get picked up. Exactly, right.
So. I don't know, do you want to let the Ravens go first at the market? Let the Ravens go first. You know what I mean? Let the Browns go first.
Let's see what's what. Before you go first. I'd rather go first. I'd rather go first and lock in your guy. Then again?
How'd that work out for the Eagles? I'm serious. Ah. You can't sit here and just say, you know what I mean? Eagles never saw that coming in a million years.
Josh Allen has no hit injury history. No, like. Interesting. I see you working. Thank you.
I see you working. You have no choice but to. I'm right across his way from you. That's a good way to directly right up there. I mean, you can't afford it.
And I appreciate it. The attention. I'm sorry. It was more of a turn of a phrase. There's more to this.
Jared Goff Rams thing, guys. Ian Rapport saying the quote understanding Is that the Rams are quote expected to have an open competition? At quarterback in training camp this summer. Boy, they want to light a fire under Jared Goff, don't they? Featuring Jared Goff and John Wolfer.
There's no question that they are. They're lighting a fire here. Ian used a dreaded phrase: if Goff remains on the roster. Damn. Oh.
Which given the contract it it seems extremely likely that he will be, but The fact that open competition is being again the fact that we're seeing the two different ways of handling the situation. Rams are like, we're going to be competing. We are competing. We are going to keep the coach that made the Super Bowl, and we are going to compete at this position. And the general manager is going to be out there saying, we're going to compete at this position.
And then the Eagles are like, you know, get out, Doug Peterson. You're out. New guy coming in, and you're going to have the decision to make on the quarterback, even though it's been widely reported. The reason why the Super Bowl-winning coach is gone is because. We didn't like his opinion on a quarterback situation.
One and two in the draft. Both, boom, boom. Same draft. Same nine-figure contract around the same dollars and same cents. One franchise is handling it like, okay.
There's an open competition, or at least they're we're that's what they're talking about to people in the know. And the other one's just like All right, it's Wentz's we believe it's Wentz's job still. Even though Jalen Hurts, you could easily say, is far more talented than John Walford. Right? I would think so.
I don't know. Or we just know more about Hertz.
Okay. Hertz completion percentage, not that great, but Or we're just denigrating John Walford's ability by saying this because he's an AAF guy, not an. Oklahoma, Alabama guy. Yeah, yeah, that's probably part of it. He's an Arizona hot shot.
He's not an Alabama Crimson Tide. Second round pick.
So Amazing how both of these franchises have a similar problem. on its face and handling totally differently. What else you got over there, Chris? Kind of a disturbing story coming out of Seattle. Seahawks backup offensive lineman Chad Wheeler released from King County Jail this morning.
It's not the only release that should be coming for him. Yeah, that's a $400,000 bond. Arrested early Saturday morning, suspicion of felony, assault, domestic violence, according to court records. Accused of assaulting a woman in an apartment in a Seattle suburb, according to the police report obtained by the Seattle Times. The report said he is accused of throwing her on the bed, strangling her before she lost consciousness.
and later picking a lock on a door to the bathroom. where she had fled to call nine one one after she had regained consciousness. There's some images circulating on Twitter right now, extremely disturbing. The Seahawks said in a statement they are aware of the situation and still gathering information. Apparently, Wheeler, according to some of these reports, is bipolar, went off his meds.
So he should get the meds that he needs to get better, and then he has lost his ability to play football, as far as I'm concerned. That's called a privilege. You said sorry. I don't think you're sorry. Yes, I don't know.
You're right. I shouldn't say that. He should be released. Over. That's it.
Yeah, that's a rascal. I mean, these pictures. But apparently, the pictures, and look, if there was video, if there was video like Kareem Hunt and Ray Rice. Out. We would all be knowing about it as opposed to we would have seen it 48 hours ago.
Instead of learning about, you know, right, we're learning about this on Wednesday as something that happens Saturday. I'm done. See you. And according to the report, too, is that when his girlfriend, apparently, what started is he asked his girlfriend to bow to him. And then she refused, and that's what set him off.
And then When she came to after she lost consciousness, according to the police report, he said, You're still alive? Like, oh my God. Like, wow. See you. Honestly, I don't have time for it.
There's no. You want to talk about zero tolerance, then the zero tolerance. Out. End of story. It should be.
Should be. Easy. Peace. It should be. Anything else over there?
Yeah, just two college football notes. Northwestern has locked up Pat Fitzgerald to a new tenure contract. Wow. Stretches through twenty thirty. He had been a hot NFL name.
And Tennessee hired UCF's Josh Huypel. As its new head coach, former Oklahoma quarterback. Very good. Interesting news right there. There you go.
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Jefferson. In an interview to try and appear as a contestant of the prices, right? We haven't even touched that, but I need to get back to my guest right here. He's one of our favorites, kind enough to call in every single week to help us get through the NFL weeks without games. And here he is back again in the bye week prior to Super Bowl 55 from Good Morning Football.
And his podcast, very popular podcast on the Ringer and Spotify, is back after hiatus with his guest, Viggo Mortensen. 10 questions with Kyle Brandt. We have Kyle Brandt back here on the show. How are you, sir? Great to be here, Rich.
I was listening and enjoying the highlight package that you just played there in Rich Eisen Show. I heard Boomer in there. Wasn't Chris Berman off the start of that? He was. Boomer was part of our guest that week.
It makes me so nostalgic. It takes me right back. And it's what you know, over the last two years, even the last couple of weeks, there's been so much talk, of course, Rich, about Eric Bienemi, the great chief coordinator. And every single time I hear the name Eric Biennemi, I think of Boomer saying, Eric, sleeping with Biennemi. Every time.
We were talking about that just earlier this week, Kyle. That's why we're of the like mind here. Also, some of his, we mentioned the picture Jim Two Silhouettes on Desches. We just mentioned the price is right. Joe, actual retail price was one of my favorite nicknames.
Bert Behome Bly Levin is a great one. And he gave me two when I was at ESPN. He gave me Rich Kaleidoscope Eisen, which was a Beatles reference. But my favorite one, he went Kim Carnes, as he said to me, as he gave it to me. Rich Betty Davis Eisen.
See, I don't even get some of them. I thought he would have gone Rich Bad Moon Eisen, but that was Andre Risen. That was for Andre Reisen, correct. He doesn't really try to repeat. When he came on several years ago, Chris Crocodile Brockman was your nickname correct?
Or Brockman Turner Overdrive. That's right, Chris Brockman Turner Overdrive. Yeah, I remember being in about, I don't know, in high school or something, and I was a big fan of Jeff Brown Paper Bagwell. But there's just so many. Listen, the same thing I said about Bienname with Berman.
I'm not exaggerating when I say this, Rich. When I'm not sleeping well or I'm stressed or something, every time in the middle of the night that I stir in bed and flip my pillow over to the other side, I think of Stu Scott. I mean, every time. Those lines stick with me. They're iconic, and I get nostalgic when I think about them.
Me too. Kyle Brandt here on The Rich Eisen Show.
Okay, what have you guys been talking about in the bye week here? Kyle, what do you got? Is it Aaron Rodgers talk? What's been the conversation? Aaron Rodgers, and it's just mostly this unbelievable Brady versus Mahomes matchup.
I volunteered the question today. Things can get misconstrued when people think you're saying it as an opinion. I just offered the question. I said, is this the best quarterback matchup in the Super Bowl that we've seen.
Now That can go a lot of ways. There's been some great ones. We had O Way versus Favre. We had Peyton versus Breeze. There's Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly.
There's been some great ones. Roll Dusberger Rogers. It's tough to beat this one just because of the stakes, the storylines, all the metaphors. We're talking a lot about that, and I've been following some of your comments, Rich. That I think are timely and appropriate about Brady, and that it's it's almost this exercise in fighting exhaustion and trying to find ways to shower this man with the praise that he deserves.
And I the only way that I've found is is this: is that people are saying, you know, he's the goat and Mahomes is the next coming. I say, Hold on a second. Pastor Mahomes may very well be the football Jesus. He may end up being the best player ever.
However, he is in Brady's zip code. As much as we expect from Mahomes and how great his career is going to be, do we really expect? That he will be starting in the Super Bowl for Super Bowl 73, Super Bowl 73, because that is 18 years from now. And that is the equivalent of what Tom Brady is doing. And in the year 2039, if Patrick Mahomes is starting the Super Bowl for a new team, by the way, that he's just been with for one year, that will be the equivalent.
Super Bowl 73. And we gain this out all the time too, Kyle, because we. Try where, as all of us, you, me, anybody who does this for a living, and we're so fortunate to do for a living, trying to lend perspective as to what Brady's doing and how we may never see it again and extrapolating out, you know, again, Brady making it to 14 championship games and that Mahomes would have to, in order to make the Super Bowl, you know, win this second one of or the, you know, third one of his career, and then make the Super Bowl eight more times to match what Brady's done, and then make, you know, 11 more championship game weekends, right? And so on and so forth. But the truth is, the truth truly is.
You know, and John Walsh, who was the father of Sports Center back in the day and was there when I was there, he hated the on-pace to conversation because it just does. You can't assume in the same way that Frank Reich had kicked the field goal early on in the first playoff game of the year, how that would have actually manifested in the fourth quarter. Everyone would have operated differently if it was a tie score as opposed to missing those three points and so on and so forth. You can't really say on pace to accurately. That said, You have to look at what's already happened.
And just like Brady.
Okay, Mahomes sat his first year. He did wet his beak a little bit with a week 17 start. Brady didn't in 2000. And then in 2018, 2019, 2020, he made the AFC championship game all three years. In Brady's next three years, he made the AFC Championship game 2020.
Twice because he won the Super Bowl twice, which is what Mahomes can do by winning this Super Bowl, but beating Brady by a year, going back to back for it. He would be better. It would be a better four. Years start. Then Brady.
And Brady can personally, if he wants to just snuff it out. Right here, right now. He could beat Mahomes and kind of put even more distance between him and the kid that's on pace. Uh that's a fact about this coming Super Bowl. It's fascinating way lay it out.
Disappearing Polaroid of Marty McFly's feeling to it, like where Brady can affect his own future. He can punch him out like Biff. He could punch him out. He could punch Biff out, or he could just, you know, not. You know, it's, it's.
That is correct. That is a way to look at it. And it's Mahomes is like holding the Lombardi, and Brady comes up and says, Hey, you, get your damn hands off him, and changes everything. It is wild when you look at that. Because 50 years from now, we look back at Mahomes' career, it's like Brady put a stop to it, and the whole on-pace conversation changed.
I also think that, you know, when you have these sort of arguments, whether you do the goat thing again, there's always this army and this. This Joe Montana army. And I totally respect it. I was Joe Montana for Halloween when I was in sixth grade. I loved him.
I loved everything about him. You know, their their ammunition is potent. They say, look. Joe never lost the Super Bowl. Joe never threw an interception in the Super Bowl.
He's the greatest. And. My response now to that is like, Well, you know, if Joe had gotten to 10 of them, he probably would have lost a few, and I guarantee he would have thrown some interceptions.
So I respect the clean four that he played, but it's not even in the same vicinity anymore. I don't even think we're in the same area code. No, we're not. The conversation's over. It's over.
And it doesn't matter if Brady wins or loses two Sundays from now. And if he does win, then he does put more distance between him and Mahomes, who we assume is going to come the closest because he's not only that talented, he's got the coach that's not going anywhere, and he's got some of his weapons that aren't going anywhere. They're signed and locked. And so we're assuming Mahomes is the one that can get closest because he's already off to a better start. I mean, Mahomes has not missed the playoffs in his first four years.
Brady did in between his first two Super Bowls. He missed the playoffs in 2002. You know, Mahomes can go back to back in his first four years, which Brady never did. And Mahomes is more, you know, he's. You could say he's more athletically gifted, which is something I think even Brady in his heart of hearts, you know, on sodium pentothal, hooked up to that with nobody else around, might actually even admit.
You know, and so that's part of this. That years from now, we're assuming we're not going to see it again next year because we could. But years from now, like 10, 15 years from now, when God Bless it, we're all knock on wood talking about a Super Bowl 70. Remember that time when Brady and Mahomes played each other? You know, I mean, that's, you know, that's.
That's what's at stay. That's what's in front of us, and it is pretty cool. It really is. It's really cool. Um I think we got it right too.
This final four had a feeling of four one seeds in the NCAA tournament. Like, we we got the four best teams. And I think we got the best two teams. I mean, I think the Packers would have gotten destroyed by the Mahomes offense. I don't think the bills are quite ready.
We got these two. We had a conversation this morning about: okay, so you got the young, really, really good one, and then you got the greatest of all time, but. Let's look at this. Let's say that your team is down five points with a minute and a half to go, and you got to go 80 yards. Do you want to hand the ball to Mahomes or do you want to hand it to Brady?
And we all kind of disagreed on it. Because, listen, as great as Brady's done, some very high-profile letdowns that he's had in those Super Bowls. You know, he's the one who got stripped by Brandon Graham against the Eagles. He's the one who lost two times to the Giants and did not have his best games. And sure, that comes with going there a lot.
Eventually, you're going to mess up. But I I just it's Mahomes just he he doesn't lose. He doesn't make the huge mistake. And I was one of the people at the table that said, as much as I respect Brady, if I haven't played a game this weekend, I'm giving it to my homes. Because, Rich, don't you think this.
This whole vibe of this Super Bowl is How can you bet against Tom Brady? And then you say, well, hold on. How can you bet against Patrick Mahomes? You can't bet against either of these. Yeah, and uh that said though, the time that they have faced in the playoffs before Brady did get him.
And then you are right, though. I know you used it as kind of a, for the lack of a better phrase, throwaway line. But, you know, if Montana had six more appearances in the Super Bowl, he might have had his Brendan Graham strips in moment. You know what I mean? Like, that could have happened.
I just think that I'm beginning to lean on it right now. I'm thinking about it when I'm behind the wheel of a car, knowing I'm going to have to put my marker down at some point. That I don't know if it's going to be that close. You know what I mean? Like, it was close in the final three quarters, in the first.
uh go around between these two but Man, oh man, oh man. You know, the Chiefs might be too far in front for any Brady comeback to materialize. When it all comes down to it. And I know I chose the Bills over the Chiefs to win it because I just thought maybe Mahomes might not be 100%. But he's on, I mean, like, honestly, he showed up in the AFC Championship game.
I've never seen anybody turn turft toe into Jordan's flu. You know what I mean? Like, I've never seen that before. But I don't either. The way this Chiefs team works, Rich, is as someone who also picked the Bills.
You know, when I knew the Bills were screwed in that game, when they had no chance? When they went up 9-0. That's when I knew the game was over. It's over. Because there's this thing with the Chiefs where it's like, don't piss them off.
Like, you've got to kind of sneak up on them. And, you know, they have the muff to punt. Don't punch that in for a touchdown. You're going to wake the dragon. Kick the field goal there.
And I almost feel like the Bills knew it because they scored the touchdown and missed the extra point. Like, as if a way to say, I'm sorry to the football gods. It was too late. When they went up 9-0, it was over. There's something about this Chiefs team where they almost like getting down early, and then they just unleash hell with the full Dracaris.
And bear that in mind in the Super Bowl. If Brady goes down the field and up 7-0, I bet the Bucs are screwed. We'll see how that all plays out. Kyle Brandt here on the Rich Eisen Show. Kyle, just bet the over.
Like, don't even worry about taking Brady or Mahomes. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Life's too short to go under. Leave him alone.
He's an NFL guy. Leave him alone, Chris. Don't talk those things. It's a new NFL rich. Don't put it.
Yeah, I know, right? I know. They had me do a read for Caesar's Rewards where you give away prizes for guessing flat-out prop bets. I'm like, wow, this is. I've never had this.
Free weekends coming up. Yeah, all right.
So, hey, Kyle, so Viggo Mortensen is your guest as your pod, is back in action, correct? That's what we got going on. How cool is that guy?
Somewhat reclusive Vigo Mortensen, who was unbelievably spectacular. Two things. I put him through sort of a tournament style who you got. His character, Aragorn from the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in a straight-up sword fight versus the likes of Maximus, William Wallace, Jon Snow. And he ran through them all, and it has people foaming at the mouth with takes about who's the best swordsman.
But, Rich, here's the best way I can explain how interesting Vigo Mortensen is as a person. He tells all the stories about Eastern Promises, history of violence, Lord of the Rings, all these other movies he's been in like Crimson Tide and G.I. Jane and Young Guns 2 for years. And yet he has this story in his pocket that he doesn't even bring out. We're talking about arcade games.
We got on this topic. And he says, you know, the only time I've played an arcade game was I was playing Centipede back in the day in 1980 because I was volunteering at the 1980 Winter Olympics. And I said, whoa, hold on a sec. You were in Lake Placid? You were there for that when that game happened, the Miracle on Ice?
He goes, Oh, yeah, I was at that game. I said, Vigo. You were at the U.S. versus the Soviets game in the arena? He said, Yeah, I was friends with the hockey team from Finland.
And beforehand, we drank a bunch of Finland vodka and got really drunk, and we went to the game. And he proceeds to tell a whole story of what it was like in the arena that day and how the Soviets were so breathtaking, but the Americans. And he was right up against the glass. It's the craziest. Get out of here.
Vigo Mortensen's pounding on the glass. You know, Jack O'Callaghan's grinding in the corner and stuff like that. Is what you're saying? Yes. Yeah, he's there, and he has whole takes on it.
And I mean, I didn't, he used to go to Buffalo Bills games during the OJ era because he was living in that part of New York, and he's got these crazy, really cool, vintage sports stories, including being at the most triumphant American sporting moment in the last 50 years. It's an awesome, awesome session. Wow. And well, we've got him teed up for next Tuesday. Oh, yeah.
So you've given me some, I guess this is like a pre-interview through Kyle Brandt. And then everybody's fun with it, Rich. Check it out and check it out on where all podcasts are acquired: Kyle Brandt, the ringer in Spotify, 10 questions with Kyle Brandt. You know, before I let you go, how old are your children? How old are they?
I have a seven-year-old son and a four-year-old daughter.
Okay, so you're not really where I'm at just yet because I was talking earlier before 12, 9, and 7, trying to get them all to choose the same movie. I tried to get them to see Miracle. And again, you bringing up Herb Brooks and channeling him on Good Morning Flight. Football and all of that did put in my mind, like maybe I should start watching Miracle with my kids. That really is the way this has all worked.
And I could not get them to watch it first. I had to give before I received from them.
So my give was allowing them to say, you know, saying yes, the green light, the viewing of the war with grandpa. With the Nero. Yes, and it dawned on me in the middle of watching this. That this is the first De Niro movie my children have ever seen? Oh, no.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's the first time they've ever seen Christopher Walken and Cheech Maron and Jane Seymour. And I'm like, wait till you see the deer hunter up in smoke and live and let die. You know, and they're like looking at me like, what the hell are you saying, Dad?
And I'm like, it was really. Jarring, to say the least, Kyle. Yeah, so Raging Bull be damned, taxi driver. It was the war. Is it The War with Grandpa is the name of the film?
It is the name of the film, yes, that De Niro said yes to, and at one point. You know, my wife said not, you know, she sees how I'm not. Handling this very well. Susie says to me, you know, without really saying it too loud for the kids to hear, she goes, Why would De Niro do this? And I gave the money symbol to her, you know, like that's helped.
That's it. You know, I guess grandpa needed a new pair of shoes or something, you know. Robert De Niro, I think this would be the same answer to the question of why did he do a Rocky and Bullwinkle live-action film? There's been a moment here where Bob De Niro said, you know what? I'm a legend.
I'm going to make whatever the hell I want to. Let's go. And I respect them for it. Rich, I'm reminded of something in the NFL world. It was exactly what you're talking about.
Drew Brees. When you inevitably talk to him the next time, ask him about this, because he goes on Instagram and he posts pictures with his children on Breeze Family Movie Night. And he's got these boys watching Hoosiers, Remember the Titans, Rocky One. Rocky One, which is tough to watch for an adult even sometimes, and let alone a kid.
Somehow, the Breeze children will sit for these movies and drive me crazy with envy. Wow. No doubt about it. No doubt. How do you do that?
I can't get my kid to watch five minutes of anything with any substance, and he's got them watching Gene Hackman measuring how high the hoop is for Hickory High. And they're all sitting there and learning. And it's Balin and Kalin and all of them. It makes me so angry. I know you're supposed to sit there and say, How sweet is this?
But if you have your own children and you can't pull it off, even though I did get him to watch Hoosiers, but I did have to stop it a few times and say, Can we please watch this? This is a big moment when they're measuring the rim to the floor. It's big for your dad. It's big for you. You don't understand it.
Even though we're not going to be able to do it. And they have seen Remember the Titans, but there's. There's no chance Rocky One. There's just not a chance in this green earth, but God knows. No, I mean, it's slow.
That Rocky One's a slow burn, and they're ice skating interminably for two hours. I wouldn't be getting meat and everything. But you'd have to watch, you know, old grandpa, dirty grandpa, bad grandfather. By the way, he was great. He was great as a grandfather.
I mean, De Niro was terrific. It's just, you know, oh my God. Kyle, thank you for the call. Appreciate it. Let's chat again next week for the big games.
Always a blast. No one has more fun than you guys. Thanks, Rich. Right back at you, buddy. And that's the guy who has fun every day on Good Morning Football.
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That's O'ReillyAuto.com/slash Eisen. This is the Rich Eisen Show. I want Carlito's waste stories. back here on the Rich Eisen Show on our Rich Eisen Show radio network. Uh let's go to uh this phone call, Pete in Richmond, Virginia.
How you been, Pete? Hello, gentlemen. How are you? We're well. What's on your mind, hi?
What's happening? I love it. Good to hear you. Del Tu folk, please bring up the tape where I called you all in September and told you that we would be going be the first team to host a Super Bowl.
So now I would like to make another prediction. After Tom Brady Does better than Peyton Manning. This has never been a Brady and Belichick thing. Yes. Peyton Manning went to another team and won a Super Bowl.
Doesn't matter how many, he just went to another team and did it. Yes, he did. Tom's going to go do it in his first year. He's going to do it at home for the first time ever in NFL history. Yes.
He's going to go up on stage. is going to be enough said Drop the mic and then hello, Matthew Stafford. Mm-hmm. Oh. Okay.
That's my call. That's my hot take.
Now here next year. Pete, let me just say this.
Okay. First of all, I appreciate you wearing your fandom and calling back here and crowing about your accuracy. Um, the best way to undercut it is to ask Mike Del Tufo to play something back at all. That he pays attention to what anybody says around here, let alone you, Pete, who's calling in from back in September.
So, the fact that you think that Mike Del Tufo has anything archived at his fingertips that a caller has done, this is nothing against you. Do you have it, Mike? Is that what you're saying? Are you saying? No, of course.
I love you, Pete. No. But I also predicted Tampa Bay with Pete. Oh, okay. Yeah, Pete.
How about you show 'em the movie Tron, but don't tell them the year it was made in? The original one with Jeff Bridges. I know, but they'll see it. They'll see it. It's not high definition.
Again, here's the problem, Pete. And it's not a problem. We're all lucky, okay? Here's the issue: is that again, everything that you see on a streamer has got a trailer. The minute that they see the grainy footage of Jeff Bridges, you know, and something that looks like a 1970s video game, it's over.
It's done. And I can't sit here and say, like, it's a, you know what I mean? Like, it's finished. It's finished. But I'm trying.
But I mean, I didn't have to deal with what you had to deal with. See, I had one son, so I was pretty much just a babysitter. I wasn't a parent. I didn't have to correct. Pete, I'm feeling on that right now.
Pete, thanks for the call, bud. Oh, did you? You just dropped him real quick. He's even quick.
Well, we were right. I mean, I can feel it. Quick trigger. I think he was about to say something else. I think he was about to add something else.
Stop. I'm just.
Sorry, Pete.
Sorry, Pete.
Mike's quick on that trigger. Rich was throwing it, so I kind of went. Yeah, that's no, again, it's just like, hey, Dad, Tron, what's it about?
Well, it's about.
Somebody who programs who's a programmer who gets sucked into his own video game. Is the trailer like mandatory? It's like I mean, they might be into the video game aspect of it. And it's just like, you know, hey, it's sucked into his own video game, and he's got to defeat the bad guys in the real world as they are in the video game. And it's.
It might be something like that there. All right, well, let's see what it's like. And it's just. You have to show the trail, right? I mean, it's got to be again, and we have to be careful because, again, Um We're on NBC Sports on Peacock, and Trolls is an NBC Universal product.
But literally, that's what they will watch. That's it. Like and and and at some point we got to get out of the trolls.
Now let me make up for it. Hit it, Don. Hey, you can watch the office right here on Peacock. Yeah. Mm.
Does that make Watch it. Every episode Extras Exclusive is streaming right now on Peacock. Does that make up for it? Does that make up for me saying I gotta have enough of the trolls?
Well, I mean, when you're contractually obligated to say it. But I did watch Trolls World Tour second time with my daughter, again, the day after. Um Miracle because I knew Championship Sunday, dad was tapped out.
So I just, it's great. You just sit up there and you just get your daughter next to you, and you're going to watch trolls. You know, Kelly Clarkson's got a voice role in it. It's a lot of fun. Kelly Clarkson.
Right. Speaking of which, you know you can watch The Office on With Steve Corell? That's what I was going for. Chris Berman is on the show tomorrow. Oh, nice.
Yes. Derrick Henry is on this show tomorrow. Like literally everybody we've talked about today. How about that? Is Ben Affleck on the show tomorrow?
I don't think so. Right away. I guess get ready. Yeah. Get ready.
Get ready, Mike Del Tufo. The Bill Walsh of audio. Mike Del Tufo, last time you called yourself that, this guest was on the program and you blew the audio. Oh, no. Oh, my God.
Keegan Michael Key will be on tomorrow. I talk to football players, pro football players across the board. They think it's weird. And yet I speak to the same football players who say you cuss in you're the Bill Walsh of audio and then screwing up the audio for Keegan Michael Key may be one of my favorite moments in the history of the music. This is myself.
I fixed that issue after that happened. Says a guy who needs to count the outright. I got the trophies. On the radio. Fun show today.
We will see you on Thursday.
