Chris Long: Rodgers on the Steelers Is Fun for the Viewer

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Rich Eisen. But Justin Fields' best superpower may just be him internalizing everything and not externalizing a damn thing. Earlier on the show, ESPN MLB insider Jeff Passen, 49ers tight end, George Kittle, X-Games gold medalist, skateboarder Deshaun Jordan. Coming up. Greenlight podcast host and two-time Super Bowl champion Chris Long.

And now. Yeah. It's rich, I said. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. 844-204 Rich is the number to dial here on the program.

We've got a first two hours, a lot of fun. We just chatted with an X-Games skateboarder. We just had Deshaun Jordan in studio. You can see him do his thing on the X-Games Salt Lake City that's going to be streaming for free right here on the Roku channel starting on June 27th.

So there's that. And then we chatted with our friend Jeff Passen in hour one about all the baseball news that's happening with Otani starting tonight. He said that. Look for Otani to only maybe go a couple of innings. That's what he thought, which sounds like a bullpen game to me, but.

Who knows with him? Loosen him up a little. I thought that might be the case when I saw the prop for his strikeouts today. It was only one and a half. And I'm like, oh, is he only going to throw an inning?

I don't know. But they're going to work him in slowly because, again, you know. When you're one of the best hitters in the game, they're not going to ship you to AAA to start working on a rehab assignment. Nope. For pitching, you know, so that you're going to be doing simulated games and then you.

They take a look at your stuff and say, okay, you're ready.

So get on out there, kid. And it's against the Padres. Too. What a lineup. you know, Arias and Bogarts and Tatisse Jr.

and You know. That's just naming three. All that Machado, former Dodger Machado in Dodger Stadium that against Otani. Come on now. That division is stacked.

You know? And while we're on the subject of, you know, Boston, uh, you know. Exiles to California. Don Orsillo on the mic. Another guy they should have never let leave.

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Yeah. What am I doing? Chris Long, we're working on some sound issues, apparently, some audio issues of Chris Long. I'm seeing him. Off camera, kind of looking at the screen, like, what's going on?

So there he is. He's leaning in right now, working on his, trying to get some sound working here.

So, uh, 844-204-Rich and over to Donald. While we're doing that, um, speaking of uh, um, Trades over the weekend. The fact that the Memphis Grizzlies got more for Desmond Bain than what the Mavericks got for Luka Donchich is insane.

Well, more than most teams got for anyone. KCP. Cole Anthony and four firsts for Desmond Bain.

Now, the Magic need Desmond Bain. He's apparently one of the best. By metrics, catch and shoot three-point shooters in the league. Yeah. And they needed those threes massively.

Yeah. Yeah, big time.

So, yeah, I mean, Desmond, great player, 19 and 6, 5 assists. He's going to help them tremendously. Big time. Before ones? 4-1s Cole Anthony.

And uh KCP, wow, going to Memphis.

So is John next? That's the first shot, if you will, fired of the.

Well, we're not there yet. Obviously, game five of the NBA Finals is uh Is tonight. Everyone said the NBA offseason is going to be wild, and this is the first.

Well, a week from Wednesday is the NBA draft. Yep.

So, right away. Joining us here on the Rich Eisen Show, we have not spoken to him in quite some time. He's worked out all of his audio issues. Ladies and gentlemen, the one and the only host of Green Light with Chris Long podcast. Host.

Chris Long, good to see you. What's up, Chris? Rick, what's up? I should have been in the NBA. That would have been cool.

Want to see how much money they're making? Desmond Bain, how much did they give up for Desmond Bain? They gave up two really good, two good players and four first-round picks. Chris. Golly.

Good for him. Good for all of those guys. I mean, you were a big free agent splash back in the day, right, Chris? Weren't you? Not really.

I stayed home. I signed a big deal at home, you know, without really testing the waters. And then I signed like tiny deals late in my career, relatively speaking. But yeah, no, we did fine. It's just making that kind of money to shoot a jump shot.

Like, that's good stuff. Is this a mustache you're growing? What's happening? I don't know if I would call it an aggressive kind of mustache deal, but it's one of those like five o'clock shadow with a little bit more on the upper lip. That's right.

Dude, back in the day. I um Tried once. tried once to wear a goatee on Sports Center. How'd you do? Do we have a picture?

We don't. 'Cause it was one and done. It was one and done because the makeup artist had to draw on the connecting parts on my face. From the middle of the middle of the middle, there's no way. There's no way you'll find it.

It does not exist. I did it once. I got voicemail messages. That's how long ago it was. It wasn't texts, voicemail messages saying that I had somebody said that I had S all over my face on Sports Center tonight.

What happened?

Somebody called you on a landline to tell you what makes it happen. That is correct. Yeah. Yeah, you had to call for a payphone? Yes, an SMS on my BlackBerry.

All right. Speaking of old school. How's that for a transition? Here we go. Aaron Rodgers is a stealer, Chris.

How's this going to work out? What do you think? What's your two cents? I think it'll be fun, you know, like fun for the viewer, right? Like a lot more fun than watching.

And certainly no shade, but like the next installment of a Mason Rudolph type. Um You know, there were moments last year where I thought Roger's arm looked really live, but there were a lot more moments where I wasn't sure how mobile he was, and obviously. You know, people forecast for a player being better off two years removed from that Achilles. And usually that's the case, right? And the stats, the last five, six games of the season kind of.

I mean, that might give people some hope, but I do think that's fool's gold a little bit. Like, the problem with doing the whole. The whole forecasting on him turning a corner is you don't usually see guys coming off Achilles at this age.

So I'd I don't know what he's going to be like physically. And and You know, like if you were to tell me, hey, I think this is an upgrade over Russell Wilson, I wouldn't say I know that for sure. But if it is, how big of an upgrade? Because we always talk about quarterback purgatory. And we talk about the being in that zone of winning 10 games in the AFC right now.

That's not really a zone where. You're going to find the future of your franchise the very next year.

Now, they have a lot of draft capital in two years or next year in the draft. And that's probably where they want to go find their quarterback of the future. But what happens if they win 12 12, 13 games. I don't think this is a Super Bowl roster. And I don't think that's a hot take to say.

You look at the offense, they're going to have to score. Like in the AFC, you got to score. You got to score with Buffalo. You have to score with Cincinnati. Certainly, that's about all they can do right now.

Kansas City, they'll play some lower scoring games in the playoffs at times, but. All things considered, you have to outscore these quarterbacks in Baltimore. I didn't even mention.

So, um, You know, in the AFC, it's a tough road to go thinking, hey, we're going to play complimentary football and get it done with a 41, 42-year-old quarterback, and nothing's guaranteed when it comes to his health.

So, yeah, I don't know, the marriage with Arthur Smith, you. You figure you're going to see some play action pass. How do they get into those looks? Can he pull off the footwork that's necessary to do that kind of stuff? I don't know.

We'll see. But I worry that they'll just end up in QB Purgatory again. That would be something. I mean, in terms of, you know, Russ, Russ's, the best that they looked last year, right, was the Russ Moonball type shots. And if you want to say what Rogers is expert at for sure over the years, you'd say he throws an even deeper, you know, moonshot type of accurate ball, or at least in the past.

And now here's DK Metcalf. I'm trying to find the positives here. You know what I mean? Here's a positive. I mean, he still throws a back shoulder like nobody else.

It's like a work of art. I mean, really is.

Now, you talk about like being on the same page and all that. When he was in New York, we had the whole. You know, I'm not taking a shot, but I don't love seeing stuff that. Should be worked out in the locker room, worked out. You know, on podcasts and that sort of thing, like internally, like, hey, this guy didn't run his route, you know, yada, yada, yada.

Metcalf has not always been the most... The most surgical route runner? And you talk about like if we end up in a situation where somebody's not on the right side of the red line, famously, infamously, like. I could see some stuff like that happening and the growing pains being tough. I don't think they have a bunch of firepower outside.

I think DK's a hell of a player. But if Rogers wants it done his way, they're really going to have to get on the same page from a timing standpoint. Like, so much of what Rogers has done lately has been quick game. And when it comes to those throws outside the numbers, like they really have to be on the same page. And so, certainly, I think time spent from here on out in the building is going to be huge.

And that was an issue last year in New York a little bit.

So, I don't know, man. Like, I don't want to pour. you know Cold water on the whole thing because if I'm on the Steelers. I want to go sign a quarterback. I'm a football player.

If I'm TJ Watt, This is what I want. I don't have time to wait around for us to find the guy after a year of unintentional tanking, passive tanking, because we don't have an option at quarterback. If I'm a Steelers fan, I probably want us to find the future. If I'm a player, I want to win right now. And I'll worry about quarterback purgatory later.

And I guess another thing TJ Watt would like is Miles Garrett's annual. Salary, right? Like, I mean, like, that's what he's looking for right now, not being at mandatory minicamp, which is definitely not usually his M.O. Trey Hendrickson also turning 31 this year. He'd like some money.

What would be your counsel? to these 30-somethings who rush the pass or maybe have one last bite at a contractual apple. And they're well especially especially because you do have one last bite. You know, for Trey, I'd say, hey, hold out until the cows come home. I mean, you deserve it.

You led the league in sacks. You know. I think sometimes with Trey, his name gets in the way where you start your career as one thing, and then people can't get used to what you turn into. And I think there's a bias there implicitly. And I also think part of it is playing for Cincinnati, which obviously Is a topic we're going to hit.

But I do think for Trey, you got all the leverage in the world. Like, hey, your rookie first-round pick is holding out as we speak.

So, like, what do you got? You got Osai and Murphy outside. I don't think Murphy had a sack last year, and Osai has not turned into the guy that they probably hoped he would have.

Now these aren't bad players, but you need somebody outside to go hunt. And especially coming in an offseason where you're like, hey, the defense was a huge, huge, huge problem last year. And You know, this is what you got to deal with in minicamp is because of the language in the rookie contract. We're in this situation, and our stud defensive end all-world guy is holding out.

So they both have a lot of leverage. And for TJ, I mean, I'm not as familiar with his situation contractually, but I will tell you this: like, TJ Watts is supposed to retire a Steeler. And, you know, he's just one of those iconic players that to me, and this is a Joe fan take, like, That number 90 right there. Um in black and yellow. To me, that's how he's supposed to come in and that's how he's supposed to go out.

And it'd be a real shame if he wasn't able to go out a stealer because he didn't get paid what he was deserved to be paid. And I think at this level, like, Nowadays, guys in their 30s can really rush into their mid-30s because. you know, the game's a little bit easier on the body and people are taking care of the players. I mean The newer CBAs don't demand as much on the body. And if you know what you're doing late in your career, you can survive that way.

And so I project success for these guys as rushers. You know, maybe more so than I would have 15 years ago if you're looking at a 31, 32-year-old guy. Yeah, Watt turns 31 in October, and he's slated to make $21.05 million in the last year of his deal.

So. That's half of what Miles Garrett. is going to earn this year. Yeah, and he's not an ego guy, but eventually you look at it and you're like, come on. Yeah, exactly.

I just think, I don't know. I don't think the Steelers are going to mess around. I think what you just said is they know the same thing that Watt should go out the way that he went in, which is wearing that 90 for the Steelers. And, you know, and plus, this is Rogers, all the eggs in Rogers' basket. And the 41-turning, 42-year-old quarterback.

What are you going to go in and just try and make some sort of contractual stand here? Like, you got one shot with Cam Hayward, too, right? Minka Fitzpatrick. I mean, there's some teeth getting longer there. The Bengals are a different story.

Have you ever heard of a rookie basically say, you know, this team is interested in winning arguments more than games, and then he leaves camp? Like that. And looks like the adult. Right, like, I mean, he is 21 years old. Like, there's a lot you can do at 21 years old.

Like, he kind of looks like an adult to me. And the thing is, the Bengals, fairly or unfairly, have a reputation with this, and they're going through it with a guy that's produced a lot for them. You know, you could say, hey, well, this guy hasn't produced at all. Like, you know, prove it. I mean, the guys that have done the most for you, you're not paying.

And, you know, I think Bates left a couple years ago because of money. And there's just, they just have a big kind of reputation for being cheap. And I totally get it. Like, there's a lot that we don't know. Like, I'm not willing to comment.

you know, with a ton of specificity on what's going on in the contract, because I haven't seen the contract. And now there's reports saying, hey, the guys that sandwiched him in the draft also had this language in their contract. And I'm not sure exactly what the language says.

So, you know, be my guest if anybody on the show. Has seen the contract, but to me, what's interesting is the Bengals' position of need. Is it's hamstrung right now because of these contract disputes. And it's just kind of like. It's almost no surprise if you've watched the Bengals deal with players over the years.

And like the dates that are relevant, August 5th, of course, then you can't trade him anymore. November 11th, once we hit that point, he can't play anymore this year. And we're talking about Shamar Stewart. You know I I think for him There's no good option. The best option is probably to hope that they cave at some point.

And I think there's reason to believe that they do eventually cave. But I. I think if he sits out a year and he just says, hey, I'm not going to play football, from what I understand, then he can re-enter the draft. And at that point, anybody with the Bengals can pick him. And that might sound really good, but I don't know that he gets picked in the same spot.

I mean, this isn't a guy with a ton of college production, right? You're making kind of a speculative move on him. And then in that situation, like there is the chance that the NFL as a group says, well, screw this guy. Like, he's bucking the system, even if the system's screwed up.

So you worry about that, and then you worry about like overall this year. Like, from what I understood, the draft wasn't made up of a bunch of blue chip players, which means next year. I would venture to guess that he's probably not going to be slotted in the same place.

So you got to look at for him: am I going to make as much money? What does a year of Russ do? What does a year of Russ present like if he plays in another league like the CFL or something? Damn, you're going deep with the leverage, man. But I guess you have to figure, I guess you got to game it all out, right?

You got to game it out because there's just no. I don't think there's a good answer right now for For either side, ironically, like for the Bengals, to me, I would remove this BS language. Like, I understand some other teams are doing it, but if hypothetically, the language states that a player gets suspended for an on-field thing, like leading with the crown of his helmet or landing with all his weight on the quarterback, oh my god, clutch your pearls, 2025 NFL, and this guy gets suspended. That he's going to lose his guaranteed money because of that, I think that is BS. And if it's something that other teams are doing, I think it's something that should be handled.

I'm not a contract guy, but that doesn't sit right with me.

So, you know, I understand that if you do something terrible, Like, hit your significant other, or drive drunk and cause injury to somebody else, or, you know, we all know the things that, like, Collectively, we'd be okay with people losing their guaranteed money over. I would not be okay with a player losing their guaranteed money over something on the field that resulted from that player playing their ass off. You know, so if that's the case, I think these teams are messed up to do that, and there has to be some recourse. Because This is only once one player does it, and I think the league and college players are going to be watching closely to see what Shamar Stewart does, it could set different precedents. And so I think this is a big deal.

Before I let you go, Chris Long. Did you hear what Cam Ward said he will be doing this summer? Did you hear this sound bite? Oh, I didn't. All right, we've got it for you.

Cam Ward, at the end of Mandatory Minicamp, asked what's he going to do between now and training camp start. It's been good for growing, learning, especially being with the vets, getting our timing down.

So I'm excited for the summer. What's your plan for the next five to six weeks before you report to camp and when you gather with your receivers and some of the other quarterbacks and go over things just to kind of refresh everybody? Just work out, stay in the playbook, and throw the throw the f out the balls. I love this guy. I really do love this guy.

Um,. He's all business. Yeah, he certainly presents as a really mature cat.

So I'm rooting for him. And I think it could be a lot of fun. Their first game, I remember, being Denver. At Denver. That's like, hey, you might want to stay at the facility.

Look out. I'm an export of six. I know. I know. I know.

I mean, deep reigning defensive player of the year out there on one island, Johnny Barron on another when he gets signed. The, you know, two new 49ers on each level of the defense, Green Law, Funga, Zach. I mean, that upfront. No, I get it. But I just kind of dig him.

Listen, we were talking about it last week. The last we heard from him at Miami was him not playing the second half of a bowl game that we were surprised that he started anyway. And then the question about him was, was want to, you know, did he raise a red flag by waving a white flag? Or did he start a game that he didn't need to? And that shows he's a gamer.

I mean, that was a conversation when he left Miami. And now that kind of seems silly, completely silly when you hear this sort of stuff, Chris. To me, I don't read too much into whatever happened with that. Like, listen, the fact that. Mm.

If he didn't have to play in that bowl game, that's the reality we live in now. If he suited up for it, like that's actually a positive. I don't want to get back into litigating that, but I will say everything he's done on the path of becoming a draft pick from that point on and post combine and post the draft, like every soundbite I hear, he just seems like an adult. And, you know. Teams want adults in the room.

And so I think that's encouraging.

Now, I haven't seen him throw one football in a regular season game. And we'll see, like I said, the first week of September when they play Denver. But You know, as far as saying the right things, he's done a good job of that. Yeah, I know. I'm excited to see that.

And what do you think is going to happen in Cleveland? Before I let you go. With the s quarterbacks, right? I wish Fly on the wall. I wish I was actually at these practices so I could see what these guys look like.

Right.

Now, again, we're in the minicamp phase.

So I would imagine Joe Flacco starts to. You know To start the season.

Now, a lot of people who probably talk on this show and other shows during the summer, they make a lot of phone calls. I don't. I don't know what the hell's going on. But I would imagine. Nobody really does, though, to be honest with you.

I'm with you. I think Flacco's going to start week one. I think it's the Joes, Flacco v. Burrow. I think that's what's going to happen.

At the end of the day, I think that's what's going to happen. And I think you buy yourself as much time to see. Who looks like a pro in practice and who's operating that way? And then you give the rookies different shots to succeed during the year. It does feel like they've kind of finally come to grips with the fact that.

You know, they got to start over a little bit. Yeah. Good on them. Only three years late, but you know, here we are. Here we are.

Chris, thanks for the time. Happy belated Father's Day to you. Oh, thanks, man. Thank you. Absolutely.

Hey, it's a great holiday. You actually wake up in the morning and you feel like nothing, you can do no wrong. Like it's guiltless. You know, like you don't feel like you're not doing your chores. There are no chores to do.

Right.

You know, you earned this holiday. You didn't earn your birthday. You earned Father's Day. That's my take. Yeah, you know what?

So, I mean, are you, do you have the approach of you just want to be left alone? Is that your approach on Father's Day, Chris?

Well, you know, the only guilt I felt yesterday was like a lot of times you figure, hey, when they ask, what do you want to do for Father's Day? It's kind of a trap. Because, like, why is that a trap? Why is that? I didn't have an answer.

Like, what do you want to do? I'm like, I just, I don't know, which you know, I think frustrates everybody. Like, I'm not giving any sort of leadership on what I want to do. Um, you know, what's the holiday about? It's about you.

And if you don't know what the hell you want to do, then everybody's job is to sit around and wait till you say you know what you want to do. I know. And if I say I want chicken and waffles in the morning, that's what I got. And that was awesome. And oh, and um, and I got to just sit around.

It was a nice rainy day, and we played video games and hung out.

Okay. It was great. Yeah. We didn't have internet. That's the problem.

That was the issue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know.

I don't know if you heard about that.

Somebody apparently snipped the wires here in Los Angeles and the whole city was out. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what happened.

So you have it here in the sticks. Chris Long, I miss you, man. I miss you. Yeah, I miss y'all, man. I'll see y'all soon.

We get fired up. Everyone want to say hi to Chris? You want to say hi to Chris? Great to see you, man. You got any plays tonight?

What do you got? You got any little action down? Oh, man. Because I don't watch enough NBA to really bet with confidence.

So what I do is I wait for a team to get down like seven to two. Yep.

I live bet a lot. Live bet. Always live bet a big dog in the NBA. Live bet the dogs, man. That's all.

Because the gamer runs, is what I've been told. Yep.

That's what Steve Levy said. It's the NBA. They always make a run.

So thanks, Chris. Take care of yourself, bud. Hey, good seeing y'all. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Long to see you like Pond. Miss him.

It does look like a mustache. I'm with you. It is a mustache. He's definitely growing a mustache. I couldn't pull it off.

But hey. What you see I'm out of moves. 844-204-Rich. Number to dial here on the program. Over Reaction Monday coming up next.

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Is it true that you met Lorne Michaels as a vendor at Yankee Stadium, the SNL founder? Is that true? And I was I was a kid and um he was they my friend sorry, that's Gore Michaels, that's Gore Michaels, he came out at the players gate and um I overcharged him for like three bats and some shirts.

Some Yankee shirts. And then when I became a cast member, I gave him back like $14 and some cents. And he said, what's this for? I said, because I overcharge you for some items. He started laughing.

He started dying. This is when you said game four, like what, the 96 World Series? Is that what that was? Tracy? What do you think?

Let me see what game four. When we got into it. It was a Devita. No, no, no, Manigly, I think Manningly was playing.

Okay, so that was probably like 95 or something like that.

Okay, so you were playing.

So, what were you doing out there? You were selling stuff? Is that what you were doing? I'm scoping tickets. I scalp tickets.

I sold souvenirs and I sold cocaine. And that's when it was $21 a gram. I'm getting 45 dollars an hour go down for me.

So, this is true.

Sorry, because I live right up the hill.

So, I had tickets, I had cocaine, and I had some bananas. You had it all.

So you're saying, back in the day. $21 a gram. Yeah. And so you sold hats and bats and stuff like that. And that's how you met.

Don't forget to coach. You got something there? Tracy really was Hustleman from Martin back in the day. He really was. He really was Hustleman.

I worked Silverdance, and I was Tony Montano on the side. When you laugh like that, TJ, it gets me mad. It gets me. I mean this man is out there selling all types of stuff. In the Bronx, New York, in the Boogie Down Bronx.

It's a Monday. Not just any Monday. It's a Monday. It is overreaction Monday. Hit it.

That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This place sucks. Overreaction.

Mondays. Monday. Hi, Christopher. What do you have over there? What do you got coming up?

Hey, everybody. Seriously, we're really good. Yeah, thanks for asking. I appreciate it. I'm very glad you're asking.

Rashid Rice thinks the Chiefs are going to be even better, you know, and explosive. I was trying for the exact phrasing he used. Sure. But I was like, whoa, okay, cool.

Someone other than the Chiefs is going to win the West this year. Why are you down on the Chiefs again? Did you see Kelsey's lost 25 pounds? He's dropped 25 L B. Interesting.

Yeah, I mean, Rashi Rice is coming back. Xavier Worthy's going to be there. Right, everything's trending in that direction, that they're going to be back to mean kind of the explosive Chiefs. But they were 15 and 2 last year. I feel like that kind of regresses a little more back to the mean a little bit.

And everyone else in that division is kind of boosted. How many wins wins the West? Talk me through this. Talk you through who you are. Talk me through this, Goose.

Talk me through it. How many of you? It feels like if you can get to 12 or 13, that's going to win it. Who on the screen has got 12-13 wins? The Chargers, the Broncos?

or the Raiders to you. Which one? Man, I really like Denver. But then, obviously, we love Jim. We like the show me your lightning bolt.

I'm just going to say right now, I'm not taking this cheese. Not taking it. That's an overreaction. You know, Pete, I mean, obviously, you love Pete. I do love Pete.

I think, you know, Ashton Genti, keeping it. I'm very excited. I'm excited. I'm excited for this LFC West. I'm excited for it.

But the Chiefs until it doesn't happen. I will continue to say it will. I'm still singed. from my Raiders are going to win the West. Stance.

You read Josh McDaniels' first season. Yeah. How'd that work out for me? Number two, still behind the clubhouse leader of worst take in the history of the show. The Heat should not break up their team for Giannis at Terra Company.

Yeah, they probably should.

Okay, so still, thank you. Move on. Overreaction. What else?

Well, I don't know. No team's gonna get three playoffs this year. No division's gonna get three playoff teams this season. Huh. All right.

You don't have numbers to back this up, do you? Like the last time that something like that happened? No, but we obviously have seen every year, you know, they're usually three or three teams. AFC North was that team last year. Was that NFC?

And the NFC both. The North got a lot. Conferences had such an instance. We saw it twice last year. A little more balanced this year, I think.

Okay. Just don't see it. I just don't see it. Even you look at that.

So say maybe, maybe, maybe the Chiefs don't even make the playoffs. Oh, this shit.

So it's Chargers and Broncos. Or if you go to the NFC North. Maybe the Vians don't make it, and it's Bears and Packers. And I'm talking about everybody's going to be a little bit more even this year. I think this is an interesting thing.

I think the parody kind of levels out this, not an overreaction. Not an overreaction. I can't wait to... Let's put a pin in this. I mean, this is something that we can put a pin in and we will revisit in half a year.

So, everybody set a reminder, send an alarm on your phone. They make a note of it. This is not that bad. I'll agree with this. No division 3.

I'll agree with this. Okay. Let's just see it more balanced out. All right. We've been talking a lot about jets and bills, right?

Sure, jets and bills. I mean, it can't get any worse for me. I mean, Draffie Devers just got traded. What am I supposed to do?

Well, I mean, same for the Niners, Devers' new team. There you go. Liners and right rams. Look at us. Two from the north and one from the south.

Look at us. Let's keep slagging on the south as long as you're going to still say that things stay dormy. Otherwise, Falcons have to make it. I'd like a peaceful house. What else?

We've been talking a lot about this team for the wrong reasons. And last year, we watched the dynamic offense be hamstrung by their inept defense. Yes. Times are going to change. Trey Henderson's going to get done.

Jamar Stewart, he's going to show up. The Bengals are going to win a playoff game this year. I don't think that's an overreaction. They just get these guys in and play better.

Well, they didn't make the playoffs last time. I got it. I mean, they almost did, even with all the crap that happened on. On defense and their usual sluggish start. That's a great photo.

You know what I mean? They're not going to lose to the dumbass Patriots in week one. You know what I mean? Like, come on. That's inexcusable.

Call your own team dumbass. I mean, that's for winning that game. That was pretty dumb. I don't think that's a good idea. Of course not.

I mean, the Bengals are the proverbial don't want to face them team. Don't but make sure they don't make the playoff team. Yeah, but it didn't matter. Do you knew even if they scored 40, you were going to score 41. I think you and I are saying the same thing.

Okay. But we sound like we're arguing with each other. I think they're going to be good. I don't think this is an overreaction either. It's just only one other team's going to make the division.

Maybe I should have said they win the division.

Well, I mean, now you're overstepping. I mean, the Ravens are still existing, correct? I mean, right? They added DeAndre Hopkins to unfold it, no. Uh I don't know.

Okay. Maybe I'm winning. Just stop with the win. Not an overreaction. I'll buy that one, too.

All right. You're two for three. Oh.

Sort of like Aaron Judge on a nightly basis. Except for against the Red Sox. He's still. What? He's still.

He still did pretty well this weekend. No, he didn't. Yeah, he did. Did he? He nearly hit you in the back of the head in Encino on Friday night until they made some stupid decision in the 10th inning.

Really helped with all the balls. And they got a nice ass. Assist from Replay Assist. But what else, Chris? What else you got over there?

Well, Rich, it's funny you bring up Aaron Judge because I mean after that weekend in Boston, it's time to be worried about Aaron Judge. One for 12 this weekend, Aaron Judge.

Okay. I think it's time to be worried about him a little bit.

Okay. I think it's maybe you should think about trading him. That's kind of what I'm saying. You need a franchise dump. You need a salary dump.

I think he's becoming an albatross. And I think, you know, obviously we see his struggles in the postseason. I think it's maybe time to start thinking about moving on. Understood, Chris, that you. Don't grasp the concept of pain.

Paying and holding on to your superstars as opposed to, you know. Sending them out west. As a matter of fact, the Yankees prevented Judge from landing. in California. Unlike The three guys.

from your 2018 team that aren't with you anymore. I think right now, I think this is probably boring to some. Boring to some. Listen. Congrats on sweeping the Yankees.

Hottest team in baseball, the Boston Red Zone. And now they have the fan base that is running the hottest as well.

So congratulations to you. God, I hate the stupid. Listen, Aaron Judge, the fact that he's hitting 390. In the middle of June, he's not anymore. I know he's not anymore, but the fact is, his numbers are stupid.

378. You can make the case that he's the best right-handed hitter in the game or the best right-handed hitter you've ever seen. And they'll, yeah, it's like World War II.

Okay, so great. Yeah, I'd be worried about him if I was you.

Okay, this guy. Watch it. You know what? Try harder. You know, at using this real estate for actual conversations instead of like, you know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to spend a lot of time on the bottom.

Well, we jumped ahead to that one. That was one of the last trolling one is usually the last one. We jumped ahead because you brought up Judge.

Okay. Here's a real one, though. Watching the U.S. Open over.

So you're producing on the fly. Yeah. In cohorts with my teammate, Michael watching the US Open, right, over the weekend and the conditions and the way the course was, and Sam Burns definitely got screwed by the water ball at the end on 15. Further drives home the point why every Super Bowl has to be played in perfect conditions. What are you talking about?

So What's your point? That this show should be. The point is that the U.S. Open was kind of unplayable the way the course of the rain. Should they turn it into the indoor sport?

Like, is that what you're saying? Dome the U.S.

So, I'm saying it further drives home the point. Would you want to see a Super Bowl played in absolute pouring rain, side winds, and terrible conditions? Exactly.

So, the most important tournament of the year, arguably the United States Open, shouldn't be played in these conditions either.

So, what do you do? You wait until the rain moves? Wait until it's nice. We should be playing today. Yeah.

You know who wouldn't like that? NBC.

Well, tough. Come on, what do you mean tough? This is what the players all hated it. And so the Super Bowl shouldn't be played in bad conditions, and neither should the top golf tournament. Right.

You know who would not have been seeing JJ Spawn's comeback? Everyone who's working today? You got one more? I got one more. You really shot that one down.

I sure did. I don't like that at all. TJ help me out here. I mean, it was golf. I let you two fight.

This is your tap out on golf, huh? Me and George Kittle talk wrestling. You guys can play it. The best stick work you could say all weekend long was Rory McElroy throwing his stick. It hit his golf bag and popped right back in his hand, and he caught it.

I did see. It's one of the things.

Okay, very good. Kevin Durant, guys, is going to get moved, and he has a list of teams that he would prefer to go to. Rockets, Heat, San Antonio. I'm looking at a Durant plus Wemby and Fox equals Spurs in the Western Conference finals next year. That's not a.

I mean, I. I don't know what the West, man. Every single year now, it could be anybody getting hot and making a run. But how about the fact? Listen.

The Suns are, what, they're not happy with what the return is for Durant? Is that what that's supported so far? Yeah. Guess what? I mean, you have no leverage.

Zero, right? You have no leverage. Durant is going to go where he wants to go. That's his MO. That's been his MO of his entire career.

He is that good. He can win anyone a championship by joining their team. With Wemby and Fox and Durant and the rest of those young guys, they could absolutely make the Western Conference finals. This is not an overreaction. They're also.

because they're the Spurs drafting second overall, right? in in the in in a couple of wednesdays because that's what the spurs do right So, yeah, this wouldn't surprise me at all, but it also wouldn't surprise me. It's like the Suns are like, wait a minute, Desmond Bain just went for two good players and four first-round picks. You know what Durant should get? But Durant wants out.

Everyone knows that you're up against the apron. Words that I never thought I would say with any seriousness. You got one more over here? We need one more.

Okay. All right, we'll get one more. Thank you. One more, guys, here on In Overreaction Monday on the 16th of June, 2025. I'm done watching the Red Sox this year, it's over.

I'm not watching a single game the rest of the year. Screw this team. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Sorry, man. I apologize. Dead. You lost one of the best players of your lifetime, certainly against my team, which is your hated rival, who currently actually leads the division, is the team you have to beat. Thank you.

Sir. May I have another? Oh, this is not good right here. Yeah, that's a. He wore their mask yesterday, too.

Yeah, well, one last Wally mask wearing. And then the dumbass social media team, I know they have nothing to do with it, and they're just doing their job. They post the thank you, Refi, for all the, and they play this three-minute video of him from his rookie here to now. Forget that. What are we doing?

That video is dumbass, but not the headgear. That's not dumbass. No.

Okay. Again. All right. You hate fun. No, I don't hate fun.

I hate the Red Sox. Good night. Do you? Ladies and gentlemen. Good one, Jay.

Thanks. Enjoy that new drop. I am. Is O'Shea here? Is he here yet?

I haven't. I don't know. How would I know? You are doing no contest wrestling after this is over, right? You are doing that.

You're not in the spot in two and a half hours. And if he's here, we'll put him on. If not, he won't. Like, it's well, you know, when he's here, he just walks right out and he just walks out and sits down. We wouldn't know where O'Shea is.

We would have heard him, I guess. We would have heard him. We know where Rich Ackerman is. Ackerman is update share. Bring me Ackerman.

Oh my gosh, Brockman is walling.

So much fun like a week ago. all good just so we can go.

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Presaging the Denvers trade. Yeah, first class. Look at you right there, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

That's fine. That's not steerage. Look at you in front of the platewear, too. Oh, yeah. Where was this?

This was at the Langham Hotel in Pasadena. It sounds like the type of hotel where there's a silent H. Yeah. Like the Langham. Langham?

Langham. I don't know. Okay. I'd never been there. It was really nice.

Did you get out on the dance floor? I did. Let's see some of this work. Because, you know, I get made fun of Susie Send Ju me doing some sort of dance move in the stands with Taylor at a UCLA basketball game, which I'm allowed to do as Father of the Year. No.

No one said you weren't. Best ad ever. Look at this. Oh my god. What's with the hands?

I don't know. That's him having fun. That's pretty well lubricated. Were you? Yeah, yeah.

I mean, not in the hips. You're talking about actually. Al C. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. We're about to make a name for myself. That's not Sarah, is it? Who's that? No, that's Al Madrigal's wife.

Ah, Kristen. Yeah. She was the hostess of the evening. Yeah, yeah, we were their guests.

Okay. The ones who made you dress up like this, essentially. Yes. Well I think the Yeah, yeah. I'll blame them.

You know what? Susie and I have been to a couple of parties. Where, remember, I said I was going to a white party? And there was another one that we went to where. And we found out like a couple hours before.

Oh, geez. Even though it was. invited long time before, you know, a dress-up party. We just showed up anyway. Yeah.

Didn't dress up? No.

I don't think we would have been allowed in if we weren't properly dressed. Yeah, hey, yeah. But you're a tight-knit group, right? I mean, well, it was, you know, you know, Pasadena high society type event. Oh.

And it was like every person, every dude had the same men's warehouse-rented tails-tucks. And some of them had red sashes. Oh my God. I think they were important. Like they're an ambassador to someplace?

That seemed like it. And then, like, are you serious? I am serious.

So, it was like a debutante ball for the 19-year-olds. They've been doing it for 60-something years over there. Look at that lovely couple. And some of the presenters had white gloves, the men, and then the fathers, the It was quite the scene.

So I'm looking at the vest right there. There are no stressed buttons at all, man. Is that the watermelon diet at work? It was the watermelon diet at work. Like I said, I lost seven to eight pounds last week, really going for it.

And then also, the shirt was so puffy, but that was the design. I had to get it cinched in the back because I wanted it. Thank you. You look really well put together. Thank you.

I appreciate you saying that. I like it. Not at all as bad as you were trying to make it out. No, no, no.

Well, I felt ridiculous, I guess, when I tried it on. And then now that I, you know, the finished product, everyone was. And by the end of the night, was Sarah on the boat and you floated away? Yeah, I just kind of waved. All right.

No, no, I went down with the ship. Was that your Celine? That's not. Oh my God, careful. Wow.

Careful. Wow. I mean, hit the highest. Don't stress yourself over there, bro. I got to say my voice.

What's up for no contest wrestling? Who's on the pod? O'Shea? You have no guests at your guest list this week? Oh my gosh.

There's so many. Your next one's at Fnatics Fest this weekend. Yeah, man. How about that? I know.

That's on Saturday. Chris and I are doing overreaction Monday early in the day, and then you're doing late. Oh, no, after I put it out there. Remember, I said that's what I wanted. What'd you put out there?

A lot of stuff, really, but there's not enough time. We'll see you tomorrow. Back on the Rich Eisen Show, everybody. Ronnie in Indiana's been hanging on for two hours. Ronnie, bless your staying power, sir.

I'm doing good. Hey, thank you. Thanks for checking my call, guys. Hold on a second, Ronnie. Hold on, Ronnie.

How are you? Oh, I'm doing great. You're usually not my work. I just land somewhere quiet real quick. No, usually that's what you started with is a response.

Like, we're reversing and sharing this whole conversation. I'm not going to ask that person. We're waiting two hours. I shouldn't treat you that way. What's on your mind, Ronnie?

So I just had a what's more likely. And sorry for TJ, you catching the stray, but you're a Giants fan. Hold on a second, Ronnie. What's more likely? Ronnie, hold on, hold on, hold on, Ronnie, because you've been waiting two hours.

Do you want the animation? Do you want the production value? Uh yeah, that's it. Get it to him. Go on, hit it, hit it.

What? What's more like Never say never, but never. Do you want to ask Ronnie how he's doing? Hey, Ronnie, how's it going, man? You good?

We already did this. Hey, I'm good, Chris. Thank you. You got it. Asked and answered.

All right, Ronnie, what's more likely? Nothing like this. All right. Well, what's more likely? Will TJ sign the release of fandom contract, or will we have to write one up for Brockney?

I can tell you right now. Hold on a minute. I can tell you right now. Hold on a minute. I got the bandwagon fan transfer for Del Tufo.

I've got the Billy in Cleveland swearing off all Cleveland teams forever. Hold on a second. I've got the Corey in Iowa trying to sign for Dallas Cal. Here we go. Here's TJ's release of fandom right there.

I would say it's more likely that you want one the papers drawn up. Than TJ signing this. I would like some drawn up, yeah. Ronnie, is that how you would respond? I like some drawn up.

Yes, I think there should be some drawn up for sure because either Crochet or Duran is going to be on the Rockies by next year. Hold on, which team? Which team is that? The Rockies. Because Chris is going to have to pick an NLS team.

It's going to have to either be the Dodgers, the Giants. The Rockies or the Padres. Mm. I don't know about crochet, but crochet's not going anywhere. By the way, that would be great if crochet goes.

Shit, I'll be a Yankee fan after this weekend as well. Ronnie in Indiana. Wait, hang on for two hours to deliver the content. I appreciate it. I appreciate it, guys.

Thank you very much. Come on out here, O'Shea. You're late. I've been waving this dude in like have you been? I didn't even know this.

I'm waving them in like I'm a third base guy. There is a communication device where you can get in my ear and say, Oh, Shea's standing there. Yeah, TJ get in his ear. I'm looking. At you going, hey, come in.

Like, you know, listen, man, I'm an actor. You don't go in front of cameras while throwing. You got to wait for the sign.

Okay. Yeah, man. Well, good to see you. It is, is it? Is it?

I feel like it is, too. Thank you, Rich. Hostile guy, hostile. Hostile words, what's happening? He's hostile.

He's a hostile guest here. Yep, because you guys got people in here. I don't know. I don't know what's happening today. Y'all changed, obviously.

Things are changing. That's what I'm saying. Here we go. I get here. It's okay.

It's all right.

Okay, bro. Luca's lost weight. We're gaining people. That's a hat. Life is good.

Oh, shit. You bring me a Dodgers hat today? What? Yeah, he said the Red Sox traded his guy away. He's pissed about Deverge.

He's ready to jump. Oh, I'm ready to die. Tom is starting tonight. He's ready to go. I'm ready to jump.

He wants to buy it. They traded him for a dude with a 4.5 and 6.5 VRA. And they traded him for a guy who immediately sent him the 2000s. They started against the Dodgers and they sent him to the minors. Welcome to the Red Sox.

You guys seem like you're having a great time. The Dodgers. Pay your players. The fans are fun. I like this vibe.

Well, listen. You're welcome. No, please, please. Please, come on. Let me just draft that whole desk.

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