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There's our podcast version, as well, through the Cumulus Podcast Network. We encourage everybody to do that. We led the show with the news that the tush-push was not banned by the amount of membership necessary. That means to get this rule changed, and had to have three-quarters of the league voting for it, they wound up two votes shy. 24 needed, 22 said, ban it. The ten teams that voted against the ban, the Eagles, Ravens, Browns, Lions, Jaguars, Dolphins, Patriots, Saints, Jets, Titans. If two of them had switched their votes, it would have been out.
Instead, it stays in the game. To talk about it is our friend Mark Schlerath, multiple Super Bowl champ from Fox Sports, three-time champ to be exact, joining us here on the Rich Eisen Show. How are you, sir? Good to see you, Mark. It's always good to be with you, Rich. I am doing great.
Thank you so much for asking. All right, so your viewpoint of the news that it came close, but no cigar for those who wanted the tush-push out. It stays in the game.
Your thoughts, Mark? Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. Obviously, if you don't have a quarterback that you're comfortable doing that with, if you're Patrick Holmes in Kansas City, if you're one of those quarterbacks that you don't feel like a Joe Burrow type of guy, and you're one of those teams, you certainly don't want to have, you have to defend it, one. And part of the reason you don't want to have to defend it, obviously, you don't want to run it as an offensive staple of yours. So interestingly enough, like I have said this many, many times, they banned that pushing a defensive player is actually a special teams rule. So you can't push a defensive player on the special teams unit on P-A-T field goal and on front pro.
And so my thought process, if it's unsafe there, then isn't it unsafe everywhere? And why do we not have equity in the rule? Like there is no equity. And people say, well, they're pushing on a quarterback.
Are they? Because even in this picture that you're showing right now, you've got a guy behind the tight end or excuse me, a tight end behind the quarterback. You got another, I think, wide receiver behind the, or a running back or whatever it is. So like you're pushing the butts of offensive linemen as you're creating leverage in this play. And so to me, it's exactly the same as the rule that you made illegal on the special team side of things that's okay on the offensive side of things.
So the lack of congruent nature in the rule makers to me is the biggest issue I have. When I hear people say, well, it's not a football play. Yeah, it is. It's a great football play.
Smash mouth, right? It is like control line of scrimmage. That to me is the difference between winning and losing in the National Football League. So I think it's a football play and I find it entertaining. And I'm always looking at it like, how are they going to stop this?
What are they going to do to stop? Like I look at it as an analyst, so I don't have any issue with it. The only issue I have is with the league, if it's good for the goose, then it should be good for the gander. And the lack of continuity is the only thing that bothers me. Well, the only thing, another lack of continuity I was hearing about from those who are listening to the behind the scenes chatter of the debate that went down over whether to ban it or not is the offense gets forward progress, the defense does not. So if you stop them, the pushing can continue and the pushing when it continues, you know, 99 out of 100 times benefits the offense as opposed to the defense.
And that's an issue. But the player safety aspect of it, what do you think? Is it a more dangerous play for linemen because there is all that pushing going on, Mark, than a regular sneak play? Is it more dangerous? Do you think? No, I don't think it's any more dangerous, Rich.
I really don't. And this is probably a good thing. You know, a change the league has made over the years from a player safety standpoint is, you know, I can think back to, you know, even my career and you go back beyond my career. They would, this, this play would have become inconsequential because frontier justice would have taken care of it. Somebody had gotten hurt. Like, so there was a time in the NFL where we just injured somebody and they said, okay, now we move on.
So nobody's going to run anymore. So I am glad that the, that the, the league and, and the way the players think has changed to a degree from that standpoint, I don't think it's any more dangerous than any other play. You know, playing football is inherently dangerous and there's a hundred percent likelihood that if you play this game, you're going to get hurt.
It's just really virtually impossible to stop. And the other thing on the defensive side of the ball is if you lined up and, you know, you lined up and pushed. Mano a mano, you know, like you got behind all defensive lineman and push them in the offensive line, ended the quarterback.
Like, why don't teams do that? Well, then you're, then if we just throw it, run a fake, like there's nobody in the back end to stop the passing game. So, you know, it truly is a play which is completely leans into the benefit of the offense and really puts the defense is in an impossible position. And usually like if that rule was the other way around, if the defense had a unbelievable advantage and put the offense in an impossible position, the rule would be changed because this is a league that predicates itself on creating offense. And so if the shoe were on the other foot, it would have been voted out a hundred percent. So, you know, it's just one of those things that life ain't fair.
Get used to it. And we will always err on this in this league on the side of benefiting the offense. And I'd love to find out from the 10 teams that voted to keep it voting against this ban, what their reasoning is. Obviously, we know what the Eagles reasoning would be. You pointed out, if you've got the quarterback for it, you'd want to keep the keep this in in the playbook. I mean, I'm looking at some other like the Dolphins.
That's not their reasoning. That's for damn sure. You know, here are the Saints. You know, you would think, you know, all the coaches came from Philadelphia with the Saints. That said, that said, I don't see Shane Steichen's Colts on here with Anthony Richardson. Right. Who would be big enough. You do see Cam Ward's Titans.
I don't know. You see maybe the Jets and Lions and Ravens. They're just like teams that are to say, screw it. You know, like where we're not going to we're not going to vote to ban something just because it can't be stopped. I'm wondering if that's the the general through line here is that they didn't buy the the it's not a football play. It's it's a pace of play issue. It's also something that could be dangerous.
They didn't buy it. I don't think that was it. Yeah. No, I tell you the other thing.
The other thing is like I think you could look at it and say, well, wait a minute now. Like we've got a big enough or thick enough offensive line. We've got a couple of birdie tight ends. We got a running back or we've got a wide receiver was quarterback in, you know, in college. Let's put him back there and let's we've got we're built in a similar way to Philadelphia.
Let's put our own version in here. And so I think you get some teams that look at it that way. Like, wait a minute, man, we can benefit from this as well.
And I'd say the other thing. If you're physically built that way, like if you are a smash mount, let's control lines from like like a Baltimore Ravens football team. Lions. Why would you like the Lions like and the many as many trick plays as Dan Campbell Lions run.
Like, of course, you're looking at that like, man, it's innovative. I love it. Let's let's do it. And let's let's create like we'll take Jared Goff off and we'll have all of St. Brown run it. Right. That dude's a freak show or one of our running backs run it.
Sure. Like, yeah, I look I look at all that stuff and think that the teams that love that kind of smash mouth, let's control line of scrimmage, let's run the football, let's do these things. All those teams look at that and go, hey, man, I want to play where I know on third down and one we're doing something.
And to me, there's a toughness. You know, I always talk about running the football rich in this league and. Running the football to me is is not so much about what you average per carrier, how many yards you have at the end of the day. It is in critical crunch time situations when the defense knows you're going to run it, when you know you're going to run it. Can you get two or three yards in those situations? Can you convert a third down and two? Can you convert a third down one?
Can you run the ball in the red zone? You know, and I always get I'm always fascinated by coordinators who say, well, listen, you know, they're playing us in an eight man front. You've heard this a million times before playing as an eight man front.
We were going to bang our heads against the wall. We've got one on one access to the outside. Well, you know where you never have one on one access to the outside is in the red zone because everything or you always have access. But in the red zone, everything's an eight or nine man front.
You know what I'm saying? Because the safeties are now playing with their heels at eight yards. So everything's an eight man front. So teams wonder why they struggle in the red zone. They struggle in the red zone because they don't know how they don't know the first thing about actually running the football and they're not truly committed to it.
So it's your ability to basically dictate terms in critical moments. Second down and four minus third down and four minus. Can we still convert first downs in the running game?
And that to me is really the truth about running the football and teams that fancy themselves tough, fancy themselves built that way. They're going to vote for keeping this play in. Mark Schlereth here on The Rich Eisen Show. Before I let you go, what did you make of the news that the Caleb Williams last year was hesitant to join the Bears, eventually did? And let it be known that he wasn't told what film to watch. He had no, he was not giving any indication by the coaching staff how to watch film and what to look at.
Mark, what did you make of that? Yeah, like that is that it's shocking. It's, you know, if it's if it's 100 percent true, it's malfeasance of coaching. And not only that, but it's the way the Bears built their football team. Like they kept Bajant, you know, who's also a young player. Why is there not a veteran quarterback in that quarterback room teaching the young guys how to study it, how to look at it? Right. Stop in the film, go, OK, what do you see here?
Well, what's the indicator? You know, why do you why is this safety going to rotate down? Why, you know, like the why questions as a young player are so important. And it's not just the coaching staff, but it's the veteran players on your football team, how your football team is constructed.
You know, I walk into a facility every Friday before I call a game on Sunday and there are facilities I walk into and I walk out of thinking rich to myself. You know, they think they're studying. They think they're preparing. They think they're working hard. They truly don't know the first thing about it. And it's why they stink.
Right. And so like there are and then there are teams you walk into and you watch that practice, you watch the sharpness of it. You watch the attention to detail of it. You see the players, you know, locked in and you're like, well, this team, there's a reason this team is really good. And I think those are the things that you consistently see in the NFL. And if that's what the franchise is doing in regards to Kayla Williams. Well, I'm shocked that the kid had 20 touchdowns for six interceptions.
I know he took 68 sacks. That's part of understanding. Hey, where am I protected? Where am I not protected? When do I have to throw hot?
How can I change the protection? How do I work in unison with my offensive line? All those things become vastly important. All those things can be studied on film to give yourself that advantage. And if nobody's walking you through that as a young player, I am shocked. It's like it is amazing that you put up the stats. You put up at 66 percent or whatever it was. And like I said, 20 versus six. That's that's phenomenal for Caleb Williams.
If that was what was actually going on in Chicago. And I'm also not to give a whiff of a hint of it at a podium microphone, not even once. They make it seem like, guys, you have no idea what's going on here. You know, like, you know, I mean, like not once did he twitch in that direction. And that might have been the most impressive thing about his season when you look back on it through this lens. Mark, you know, when I when I look back, I think about now my commentary because 68 sacks, like it's so frustrating and yet they're not good.
And that's part of that. Part of that is play calling. A lot of it's play calling. But sacks to me are more of a quarterback stat and offensive coordinator staff than they are an online stat. So it's just kind of the way the league is structured.
Everything is three step, five step, no hitch, you know, get the ball off and all those things. So your quarterback has to really be in control of a lot of that stuff. And he's got to have that timing and ability to execute and throw the ball on time and get it out and be accurate and all those things. But now that I look back on it and go, if that was the case and nobody is walking you through like when I played for the Redskins, man, the hogs, my first start was against Philadelphia, the Eagles in Philadelphia, number one defense in football with Reggie White and Clyde Simmons and, you know, and Jerome Brown and Mike Pitts.
And, you know, I mean, it was a who's who of defensive players in the league. And every not only every morning do we go through film together as a group with our coach, but every afternoon it was one day it was Boston's turn. The next day it was Russ Grimm's turn.
The next day it was Joe Jacoby's turn. Like they all took individual turns with me and we went through film. OK, today we're watching first and 10. Today we're watching, you know, blitz pick up third down along in all these situational things. And then, you know, they're quizzing me in there. Hey, what do you see here? Why are we going to get like why are we going to get pinch of the weak side linebacker walk to the edge?
It means these two guys are pirates done. You know, understand if they do this, you're getting that inside pinch done. So make sure you take that take that away from the inside out.
You know, just things like that. You're like, oh, you learn how to watch the game. You learn how to understand what they're doing.
Hey, this defense, any time they get in this under front, man, they're bringing blitz strong or they're bringing blitz weak, whatever it is, whatever their tendency is. And I sat down with each of those guys, members of the Hogs that obviously were big time players and such respected players and understood. And they coached me through the nuance of what that Eagles defense did.
And, you know, went out there and opened a can of whoop ass and got a game ball, Rich. So like, but it was a lot of it was because of the work they did on my behalf to help me have success. And that's what good teams do. Obviously, Chicago hasn't been good in quite some time. And so I'm really excited for Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson's just a really good coach, a really good designer of plays and great play caller.
So looking forward to seeing what Chicago looks like with Ben Johnson at the helm. How lucky for you to have those guys when you first started off like that, Mark, no question about it. So my my follow up on on all of this and the question is asked with nothing but respect. Were you scared of Reggie White? Was he scary? Were you scared of him? Rich, I was scared of everybody. Come on. I like I was I was scared to death. I'll tell you a great story.
We got a second. Sure. So I'm sitting on the bus and I literally I'm a tenth rounder out of the University of Idaho and I am scared to death. I truly am. And like, I don't know if I belong.
I really don't. I mean, but I'm getting my first start in Philadelphia. And Doug Williams walks on the bus and he walks by me and I can feel him over my shoulder stop. And, you know, I'm listening to my headphones.
Right. And he backs up, taps me on the shoulder, took my headphones off. And he said he's our starting quarterback. He says to me, the only difference between you and them is they got an opportunity to make a name for themselves.
And they took advantage of it. And he goes, today is your opportunity. You will take advantage of this. I have nothing but the utmost faith in you. And I walked onto that field saying to myself, hey, I might not be good enough and I can live with that.
But it's not going to be from a lack of study, a lack of effort or whatever. And and like I said, I open a can of whoop ass and got in a fight in that game. Because I was like, I was like, I was like, listen, there's one thing that's not going to happen. You are not going to punk me. I promise you, you're not going to punk me against those Eagles. Who did you fight? Who did you fight? Mike? Mike Pitts took a swing at me and I tried to break his jaw and got flagged and everything else. And it's funny, after the game on Monday, I got to end up getting a game ball. And Joe Bugle, God rest his soul, my first offensive line coach in the league, Joe walks up to me and he says, hey, listen, we don't fight. Right.
We don't we don't take 15 yard penalties. We don't fight. He goes, but great job. He was proud.
He's a beaming father, man. He's like, he's like, man, you played your ass off. That was an ass whooping.
You know, it was it was really cool. But again, like I said, like there was one rule I had for myself is I'm not getting punked. And I just you were not going to punk me. I don't care that I'm a tenth round out of Idaho. I ain't getting punked.
I don't care who it is. So that was my kind of welcome to the NFL moment. Unbelievable for Doug Williams to do that. Words, man, from somebody like him.
It just it's so powerful. I love stories like that, Mark. Thanks for the time. Let's do this more often.
Let's do this again real soon, brother. Appreciate you. You got it, Rich. Take care. Hey, congratulations to you, by the way. A lot of great success coming your way. You deserve every ounce of it. Thank you, Mark Schlereth. You're a good man for saying that.
Appreciate it. That's Mark Schlereth, everybody. Everybody, follow him at Mark Schlereth. Great stuff. Wow.
Hey, I asked that with the ultimate respect. Were you scared of Reggie Wood? One of my favorite stories Marshall Faulk tells. We'll get him to tell it here again when next time he's here. First time he was the old rich stadium. Taken on the Buffalo Bills. And he said Marshall was never scared anyway.
Never scared of anybody. He said it was one of the, you know, the old turf. The crown. And the heat's coming off the turf. Heat's coming off the turf. And Bruce Smith comes out of the tunnel all, as he said, greased up on his arms.
And you could see him barely above like above the crown and the steam's coming off. And he's just like, oh, no. I got to have Marshall tell that story next time he's here. He's just like, Bruce Smith comes out.
He's like, oh, no. I understand. You think?
Oh, my gosh. But to have Reggie and Jerome Brown out there, man, that would be a little afraid. Bad team, man.
John Inoue was a bad man. But Doug Williams comes up to him on the bus. That's got to mean so much.
Don't you think? You're starting QB. Did he already win a Super Bowl? Was he already MVP of the Super Bowl? Because that was 87, right? When they won the Super Bowl.
That's a great question. And Mark, I think 89 was Mark, I think. Yeah, Mark's working here with 89. OK, so he's already a Super Bowl winner, right? An MVP. And he's the one tapping him on the shoulder saying, it's your day. Well, and Doug needed to play because the last thing you want is your lineman not believing in himself. Reggie White like, oh, yeah. Yeah. He could say, hey, Russ, you take Reggie. 844-204 Rich number to dial here on the Rich Isaac show when we come back.
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I root for that team, even though I've never lived there. Yes. I think he is just phenomenal to watch apropos of nothing. I was going to talk about the season finale of Barry. Yes. And you were talking about the season finale.
And I was hoping Patrick was in it. Next time you come on. Yes. We'll make sure Mahomes is on the phone.
We'll do that. Truly. You like him that much. I think that his ability is such a cut above. He is so passionate in the way he plays.
Yes. He is so improvisorial in the way he plays. He is so sure.
I just think it is instinctually great, actually. OK. Well, he now knows that and we will make sure that we'll make this happen. Yeah.
It would be my listen. Yes. Patrick. Hi. He does.
How are you? We need to think. Can I just say no.
Patrick is listening. I'd like to you know, we make a great chicken stuffed with ricotta and spinach. Yes. With an unbelievable reduction.
It can be yours. If you're here in L.A. Well, the Chiefs come play the Chargers, right? The Chiefs play the Chargers.
We'll make this happen. Those guys are good, too. They're good quarterbacks. They are not Mahomes.
That is correct. Oh, my God. One of my favorite interviews in the history of the show. Henry Winkler. And then the fact that we then hooked him up.
Kelsey's wearing like what, football family Fonzie shirts. I mean, you know, it's it's as Howard as Henry would say and I would say a mitzvah. A mitzvah. It's OK. Listen, if you had told me. When I was sitting here railing on Juan Soto for calling New York a Mets town. Because it wasn't just the money that he took from the Yankees. And and it was a mercenary move.
Obviously, it left me it left me burned. I loved watching Juan Soto with the Yankees, him and Judge. I had visions of the two of them basically going into the Hall of Fame together. You know what I mean? Just honestly, I was talking about it with Michael Kay, actually, in the middle of last season.
Is there an equivalent? What are the equivalents in the Yankee lineup in their history of having Soto and Judge hitting back to back? You know, when we went back to remember when Don Mattingly might have been before you. You would remember, Chris, because I am older than you. This just in spoiler alert, and I'm younger than TJ, so you would be fantastic when Mattingly and Dave Winfield were battling for the batting title.
They were they were next to each other. Yankee lineup, like honestly. So, yes, him leaving left a mark. But then when he's like, it's a Mets town, it's like, OK, buddy, like, just say it's the money at this point in time.
Just say it's the money. It might not have been the most. OK, no, because it was a Mets town.
That's the thing that just infuriated me and set me off. If you had told me to just if you had told me if you had told me that by the time May 21st would roll around. Here it comes. Seven weeks of the season, almost two months of the season, would roll around. And Ben Rice would have better numbers than Juan Soto.
And I say that only because Ben is a young buck. Would you believe that the Mets have more wins in the Yankees? Maybe I would have believed, hoped that they would have more losses than the Yankees, which they currently do. And the Yankees have a better winning percentage than the Mets, as you and I are talking right now. And part of that is because they lost two of three to the Yanks and then have a broom situation going down in Fenway Park today. Chris, who's got the broom out right now for the New York Metropolitan's broom out?
Or all this Chapman back to back say Chapman Smith could save one run in two games. He throws one hundred fifty. What do you expect? It's very fast.
It's very fast. Two fifty nine. Ten home runs. Twenty two runs batted in his tenth last night. Right. Yeah, he did.
He does. And by the way, he's he's he's playing multiple positions. He's catching for the Yankees in mop up time and has no problem switching positions, unlike certain three hundred million dollar contracted players in Boston. Coming at both of us.
Everybody's catching some right now. Devers is like, I'm a third baseman. I will not D.H. until I OK, I will D.H. but play first base because we need to because our young stud blew out his knee. I will not do that.
I need the owner to fly out and make sure I'm not going to have a problem. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. It's all in right now. I'm looking up.
He's fourth in Major League Baseball and RBI. I was told to look up and find the red side. Oh, there they are. It's not going great. Not going great at the moment.
OK. Five hundred team. Oh, I get it. I'm loving it right now. Could be. Could be better. And when they go and listen, Juan Soto, the family park, it's not it's something he's used to playing it and being booed at.
OK, when you hit one towards the fan to the to the green monster, it might not go out because it's a very tall wall. Yeah. It's very tall. How tall is it? Like 30, 70.
It's very, it's pretty tall. Well, he put one off the wall and he got a single out of it. Then he stole second. His manager, if I'm not mistaken, his manager said he was going to talk to Juan Soto about this sort of thing. You got to hustle out about it. We're going to have a conversation about it.
Well, they had a conversation about it. And apparently, you know, the manager came out of it with a better sense of what's up with Juan Soto. Yeah, I'm not I'm not going to make excuses for him here, but I've seen that play here in this ballpark plenty of time.
You know, where guy hits a ball off the monster and they think they got it and they don't get to second base. You know, like I'm not going to make it just how can we continue to help him? How can we continue to teach you, coach you? And that's what we'll do. And that's what I'll do as a manager. You know, that's my responsibility. That's my job. And, you know, he'll he'll be fine. Teachable moments.
OK, we had a talk and he found out not to make any excuses. I mean, again, 247 eight home runs and 20 runs batted in and every single I mean, every single time something doesn't go Soto like he's hearing about it because it is a New York town. Sure.
Yeah. Juan Slomo, not Soto. Slomo is apparently what the post referred to him in this whole situation.
Pretty funny. Juan Slomo. OK. And so even in a Mets town, you should get a break and those sorts of things, certainly when the Mets are doing so well, you know, and he's got Alonso kicking ass. I got to tell you, when I was at Yankee Stadium and I watched the Mets win the game when I was in Yankee Stadium this weekend.
Lindor, Soto, Alonso is pretty good. It is scary. It's not pretty good. It's very good. It is.
It is. It is scary as a one, two, three as there is in Major League Baseball. It's not really scary because Soto hasn't hit a strike yet.
I mean, great. Let's power on him right now. You know, the reason why we all know he's going to pick.
It's not like he forgot how to play baseball or hit a ball. He's in a new situation. That's what his manager said. Roll tape, roll tape, roll tape. This is what the manager says.
I can't wait till July. Yeah. He doesn't have a comfort level again. I think he's comfortable. But again, everything is new.
You know, I will say not only a new team, but just the new contract expectations. You know, like he's always been in winning teams and won a World Series, you know, but there's a new territory for him. And again, that's our job as an organization to continue to help him. But I do feel like he's in a good place. And look, I think he's about results there, too. And I think there's there's a lot of noise here, but he's going to be fine.
He's too good of a player. And like I said, we'll be right there with him. Yep, you heard Skip. A lot of noise in a Mets town.
It's a Mets town. Don't forget. You're real stuck on that. Oh, and I will be stuck on that forever.
Hey, no, no, no, stop. I'm telling you, I will never forget that because I don't know how one so there's ever going to live the rest of his life. Oh, no, he'll live the rest of his life very well.
The fact that he'll live his life, rest of his life very well, because, you know, he's honestly tells ESPN to wear a wire, not wearing a wire. Not going to do it. Not doing it.
Just remember, he's not on your team because you're too cheap. You didn't want to give him a suite. Was it worth it?
Maybe not. But that there was a ceiling and what and what it ended up being, despite me being so upset about it, greatest thing to happen to the Yankees don't have to deal with what's going on with the Mets town. So I think it's it's it's he's in a new place called Queens, which is so far from the Bronx that there's only a bridge attaching it. So I have this all written down. Whitestone, right?
Is it the whites? It's performative. I'm having fun. Outrage. You see, you got to write down all the talking points.
Rich, rich. It's so far. Let the New Yorker handle a throng.
A strong is far more geographically sound than the Tri-Boro. I'm just saying, guys, listen, he's got a frog's neck situation happening right now. There's a backup, there's a jackknife tractor trailer in his skull right now. And it'll, you're right, he'll calm down, he'll realize where he is, he's in a Mets town, it's all good. He'll be fine, he'll be fine.
It's all good. I really wish you were here when Mad Dog called in, because he had something to say about it. About what? Just Yankee fans getting in their feelings.
He said Mr. Seuss? Yeah, yeah, getting in their feelings about Soto. What did he say? Basically that you should calm down, you being the collective Yankee fans about Soto.
He didn't belong to you to start with. Okay. Oh, interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got it, hold on, let's pull it away. We have it? We have it, we have it, yeah, Mad Dog was so disheveled. Yeah.
You look great. No, I saw that. Seuss loves Mad Dog. Oh, Mad Dog loves Seuss.
He's a legend. You know. Hey, Richie. Oh, listen, I'm fine. I don't, listen, Mad Dog's a Giants fan anyway. Oh, is it that long?
I don't care how long it is, I want to hear it. Let's do it. I'm ready to, because you want, this is for him in directions of people like me, is that what you're saying? Yes, people like you very much so. Listen, if this is going to help your case, let's hear it, because I have been hammering you.
My case doesn't need help. I've been hammering you for a good 12 minutes now. We were, we were 29, we were won 21 games at this point last year. Because the Yankees, without Soto, said let's get Bellinger, who by the way, is on a 15 game hit streak, and his grand slam ended up sealing the Subway series.
It did, I saw that. We got Goldschmidt, who's second in the American League in hitting, third in Major League Baseball in hitting, and Max Fried, who's going to be the Cy Young Award winner in the American League right now. I would imagine he's in a town where there is no plaque and signpost for Mo Green, the current favorite? Let me tell you how.
For the Cy Young? Yeah, you know, it's Rick Scoob. Oh, it's Rick Scoob. Oh, he's behind school. Let me tell you how worried, where I am on the worried meter about any of this. Okay, where are you? Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on. On a one to 10?
Yeah, I know what he's doing. On a one to 10. Okay, where are you? Point. Zero. Zero point zero?
Zero point zero. Okay. We ain't worried about nothing right now. Was that the Dodger fan in you that hit that button? No, no, no, because you'll play us in the series and you'll lose. Well, that's fine. If we get to the series, I'll be ecstatic. Are you kidding me?
Wow. I'll be happy with that. No, no, I'm talking about him. Oh, gotcha. No, you won't.
You guys won't make it past him. All right, here we go. So this is, you're saying you had them edit this so I could hear what Russo had to say to Susie about people like me. I feel you were on a walkabout and you missed this and I feel like you need to hear it.
Okay. I think this Soto is a Yankee trader thing is a bunch of freaking unbelievable nonsense. He was there for one year. Every Yankee fan in America who knows anything about Soto knew that re-signing him was not gonna be easy.
They also knew that Cohen had more money than anybody. And if he went to the Mets, he went to the Mets. This is not Aaron Judge, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle who left after 15 years to go somewhere else.
This is Soto who would play on the moon if it was $5 more, that's just the way it is. He's a mercenary and I don't begrudge him that, but the, and now at the end of the day, maybe he'll be a Met if he goes to the Hall of Fame, but he was on Washington, he was on San Diego, he was on the Yankees. No Yankee fan should be floored that somehow Soto decided to go somewhere else. Plus Soto is a big reason why the Yankees got by a very bad group of teams, but a big reason why Soto got to the world, helped them get to the World Series anyway.
Game five, that home run, he had a great post season. So the idea that the Yankee fan now feels betrayed, that is a bunch of garbage. Throw in the idea that half that building last night's Mets fans, and on Friday night and on Saturday night. So the idea that he was walking into enemy territory, I know that buildings, both of them, better than anybody. There was as many Met fans there last night as there were Yankee fans for crying out loud, not as many, but you get the idea.
So the idea that somehow he was walking into a walking cauldron of hatred, if that was the case, it's stupid because he was there for one year and I don't buy it anyway for that matter. Okay, so my response, no, no, my dog, well done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Excuse me, Rich, Rich from Staten Island. Hey, Rick. Paul Ian, longtime listener. Bing, bing. Okay, he's absolutely right.
Absolutely right, I have no problem with what he has to say. I was in that building, there were a ton of Met fans, just like there'll be a ton of Yankee fans in Citi Field when they see each other again. Probably more. And the results may be different.
They may be different. Soto might be hitting 250 by then. Maybe, if we're lucky. Okay, if he gets a couple of hits here and there. Just more two. If a couple start falling, if a couple start falling. One percent more hits, one percent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, if a couple start falling, yeah, it might break in his way where he'll start getting 250. I understand, and he's right in the fact that Soto was there for just one year, so. And he helped get you to watch series. And he's right, he would play on the moon for five dollars more. And the Yankees do not break through to the World Series without him.
Those are all right. My problem, like I said, is him. It's a Mets town, we get it. He called it a Mets town, which is trying to throw dirt in the faces and cover the tracks of him being a guy who would play on the moon for five more dollars.
Look, we all wait for five more bucks go to the moon. They didn't wanna give me a suite for my family. I thought the Yankees weren't going all in. Everybody wanted me to go to the Mets, so I went to the Mets. And, but no, it's a Mets town. Okeydokey, Okeydokey.
To quote the great wordsmith Dr. Seuss, don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. Did you look that up? No. Okay. He just got that. Come on, I'm a wordsmith myself.
He has lyrics. Yeah, just be happy. You got to the World Series. And I will say this, I will say this. I will not root for Soto in a box. I will not do it with a fox. I will not do it on a train.
I will not do it anywhere. And it's not because he left the Yankees. That was part of it. I'm over that. Cause I love the way that it's all working out right now. We are our better team for it. We have better fielders. We're having better hitting. We're having younger players actually take advantage of their opportunities.
Like somebody who has better stats named Ben Rice. I'm loving the check notes bits. It's so much fun for me. I'm glad you love it. It's him saying it's a Mets town.
May 21st. I thank you. Thank you, Chris. You're right. He's right. And look at that. Disrespectful picture.
It's not a disrespect. Is that the real one? Or that's the fake one?
I can't tell. That's the guy. That's the real one. That's the real one. That's the real one.
He's looking like that. And do me a favor. Hold on. Keep this in your mind's eye. Keep this in your mind's eye. Can you pop Hoskins?
I know you've got a lot going on back there. Can you put the headline back up? The post.
Yeah, the New York Post. Getting plump. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? It's a little.
Am I wrong? Punch. No punch. Mike, you would kill somebody to be in that shape. Bartolo.
Not Somo Bartolo. I'm in that shape. No, you're not. Stop it. I'm feeling good in my purple shirt to celebrate Rookoo's first ever sports Emmy winner. How dare you? I'm a plump. Suze is here.
She's getting ready to do women's sports now. Suze, come back on, because your husband's wildin' out at you. Not wildin' at you.
He's wildin' me. Ladies and gentlemen, Suzy Schuster is here again. Hi, guys.
Back again like you never liked us. Why do you have the Festivus pole? This is not a Festivus pole. So Sarah Tiana's mom. I know.
She's dressed for women's sports now. I am. South Hampton. Is wondering why you always talk about being a lead pipe wielding professional. Yes. And so, I got you a lead pipe. Here you go. Now you are. Happy Father's Day. Yeah, did you have this whole conversation the other day?
Yes, they did. Well, last week when you said it again, Sarah's mom texted me and was like, basically like, what is he talking about? I'm like, I don't know. I'm almost sure it's a Pulp Fiction reference. No, it might be, but it's... He talks about some hard hittin'... Yeah, there's some other stuff he talks about. Yeah, there's some other words in there. No, I know that, but I think somebody was a pipe wielding professional.
So you tend to, so the guys ask me on the show, do you fix a lot of things at home? Oh, okay. Now I see where this is going. And where it's going is not good for me. It's great. Well, it never is. And I say, you try to, and then Thelma fixes it.
It's great. Excuse me, I can fix things at home. Like what? The Clicker, you're very good at changing the channel for me when I can't figure it out. Let me put down this lead pipe. Because you're a professional. I'm a professional. You know what he's really good at?
He's really good at, what? Did you go to like a hardware store and get a pipe? I think that's hysterical. This is from our, this is from our Festivus. From here, okay.
From the rest of us. Did you find it in the back? No, it's been hiding behind that pole for years. For like four years now. Which is really good at untangling necklaces.
Yes. Like, by the way, this is too high. A massive skill. Really good at untangling necklaces, which I can't do.
I don't have the patience for it, it's too annoying. By the way, a massive skill, a very important skill. One that comes in very handy for you, you know? That is.
What else can I do? Oh, no, no, I don't know. I'm good at stuff.
Well that's gonna be a fix. I'm good at stuff! I'm good at stuff! I'm good at stuff! I'm good at stuff! I'm good at stuff!
Oh no! I'm smart! I'm smart!
I'm good at stuff! Is that right before you blew up in the boat? No, that's first.
It's for untangling, you know, that they passed over. Excuse me. You can't have a spoiler. You didn't blow up in the boat. You didn't blow up in the boat. No. You didn't blow up in the boat. No.
It didn't. Which one blew up in the boat? Which person from this highly successful relationship would you trust for Godfather Part Two references? Susie. Okay, so let's be honest.
Who blew up in the boat? Okay, if you wanna do something from Notting Hill, that's your one. Oh my goodness.
Notting Hill! I love that. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness gracious.
Susie! She comes in the bookstore. It's a traveling bookstore.
Who goes to a bookstore for travel books anymore? Nobody. Nobody. Okay. I don't know what Notting Hill is. You've never seen Notting Hill? You are such a dummy. What? It's the greatest movie ever. Not really. Four Weddings and a Puneral is the greatest movie. Yeah, there you go.
While you were sleeping, if you out that nature, now you're sleeping. I love that. Honestly, the number of movies that, at some point when our children stop, you know, busting up what we need to do. Ruining our lives, yeah.
I wouldn't say that, but yes. We almost watched The Godfather and the boys were like, we can't watch this without Dad. What number is the list of movies you have to see? Because I've made reference, you're like, oh, I've never seen that. I'm like, put it on the list. What is it?
Rich, we were busy playing sports as kids, so we didn't watch a lot of movies. Okay. Wow. You know, there's so many. I missed so many. Boy, we out of time. Unbelievable. Another episode of What the Football is in your ear gates or in the YouTube page on The Rich Eisen Show.
Susie and Amy Trask recorded one yesterday with Mike Florio and now you're back to record another episode of Women's Sports Now available on Roku channel at midnight tonight. Good to see you, Sus. Good to have you here.
Thank you, Rich. What is it, I mean, what's happening? Good to see you, Sus. I'm like, you saw me this morning.
You mean besides the car alarm going off or anything? I'm being a professional introducing you. A lead pipe wielding professional.
Wilt that pipe. What is happening? Rich, I'm so happy to be back in the studio. I've been here so much.
Yeah, I've been here all week. Please tip your waitress. There was pizza in the fridge for the guys, leftover donuts.
And Vio's was swearing like a sailor? Oh my goodness. Two S, one F. It was fantastic. I only caught two of them. Mike, what are you doing?
What are you doing? Well, the third one. It's not like we're playing Family Feud anymore. Did you have a hand, did you have pizza in one hand and the buttons in the other? No, because we, I only caught two of them. The last one. They came fast and furious. Yeah, the last one was a little. I mean, they really did. We have a sound man who can only do one thing at once.
Mix and mix. He disguised his love for me with an F bomb. So like, it was like, Susie, I effing love you. And so that just seems like a Staten Island hello.
Yeah, that was like, exactly. Very good. Although he is from New Jersey, not from. Yeah, he's from Bayonne. One of the three bridges, four bridges that connect Staten Island with the world, three to New Jersey.
Same number of bridges that connect the Bronx to that outpost known as Queens, where Juan Soto is in a new place. It's different, man. Oh, totally different.
It's in the house representing. Oh my goodness, it's so different. Boogie Down and Queens are different. The Queens accent in Brooklyn Act and Brooklyn accents and Bronx accents and Staten Island accents, they're so far off. Well, they are a little different. Yeah, they are. No, they're not.
Yeah, they are. Washington Heights accent is far different from a Staten Island accent. Mr. Livingston, New Jersey, piped out over there.
By the way, I get New York all the time. Do you? Yeah. Do you?
Just because you sound the same. Do you? Oh, do you?
Do you? Okay. Who's on women's sports now?
We have Sabrina Merchant from The Athletic. Awesome. And we're gonna talk in depth about what happened last weekend with Kaitlin Clark and Angel Reese. We're gonna spin ahead to next weekend because we're in the middle. We're in it, Rich. We're excited about it. So we have a lot to cover.
We're gonna talk about sales. We're gonna talk about sponsors coming to the WNBA, but we're also gonna go deep into women's college softball. It seems like, which is as popular an event as ESPN puts on every single year, it seems like Kaitlin Clark's games are just go off the rails every time it seems. Like there's something going on in every single one of her games. Well, she had a tripped up the first. We know that, right?
Look at you. You're like, that's cute, isn't it? She passes Sabrina Ionesco's record in her second game for all-time games played with 25 plus a double in the assist. Susie Schuster's prepared for, I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off.
By the way, I'm ready. It's called a hard out. Yeah. Very good.
Susie's a lead pipe. Yeah, probably. Okay, thank you, very good, Mike.
What was that? I can't say. You have nothing to say. You have nothing to say. Wednesday, Wednesday show.
You have nothing to say. We're gonna stick to landing, Michael. I thought 54.05 was the hard out. Here we go.
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