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That's right. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. 844204 Rich, number to dial. We got a couple of phone calls we'll take before we get out of Dodge. We also have Bruce Feldman in studio to talk about the college football end of the way the NFL draft went down. Breaking news here about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and general manager Jason Light. As you can see right here, the Bucks have tweeted out that he is belong. He's just become a member of the Automobiles Association of America, which means if he, if he needs a, if he, if he has a flat tire, he's taking care of it. Oh wait, I'm being told that's not what that is.

Oh, it's not worth sightseeing. No, no, no. I'm saying apparently that's a universal love for the draft that Jason Light just had. He joins us right here on the Rich Eisen Show. I'm sorry I got that wrong, Jason. Normally I'm buttoned up on my information. Well, I'm glad there was a third A on there.

Just didn't say A. Ladies and gentlemen, Jason Light everybody. Good to see you, man. How are you? Doing great. How are you? Well, what's the life of a general manager like the Wednesday after a draft?

You know, what's it like? Well, getting ready to drive down to Fort Myers because my oldest has a playoff lacrosse game tonight in Fort Myers. So going against a school called the Canterbury School.

So that sounds like a really good lacrosse team, to be honest. And so, and so if being the dad that you are, if, if your, if your kid wins, you're going to have a towel with his face on it and run right up to the star player of the other team and wave it, just like what happened in the Pacers Bucks game last night, Jason. Absolutely. You're going to run right on the field. You're going to do that sort of, okay. In all seriousness though, I mean, is this, this is now what? Like a, a period to reconnect with your family right now after, after the last two months basically? It is, this is kind of the period for all of us for, you know, you do some staffing some you know, promotions and pay raises and that kind of stuff for people that really deserve it. And then you know, get ready for OTAs and stuff, which is kind of just fun to watch the guys that you put the, the team that you put together with your staff. So, but now also getting home in time for dinner and watching practice and hanging out with your daughter or your sons. So it's kind of, it's kind of a fun time. They, they kind of are shocked.

Well, why are you home? You know, so they're used to life without me. Now I'm reintegrated into their lives. That's right. Now you must generally manage your way back in. I understand that.

All right. Let's, let's jump into being on the clock. 19th overall, the 10, that 10 minute period, how many calls were you, were you getting? Since that was, you know, right around the spot, a lot of people were thinking a second quarterback could go in that first round.

Walk me through what your phones were like in that 10 minute period, Jason. Well, a lot of the calls are made before the draft. It's typically those calls, really most of them start on Thursday morning, start calling behind us or in front of us telling them we might be interested.

I mean, everybody's kind of the same, depends on what's there. We might go up, we might come back, but we had made a decision. There was a group of players that we talked about that we thought could be there at 19, a Mecca was one of them and a Mecca, we had made the decision that no matter how many of that group of players that we've coveted at that pick, if a Mecca was one of them and he was there, we weren't going to move back. We were just going to take them.

Cause I'd hate to run the risk of, of trying to get cute, moving back a couple of spots. And then, you know, the team behind us or a couple of teams behind us, you know, traded out or they took him, it wouldn't feel very good. So we just, we just turned the card in. Well, speaking as a Wolverine who would have white knuckles every single time he caught a ball while he was at Columbus, I understand why you would consider him special, but why did you put him as that guy? Like if he's there, we're sticking and picking.

What made you think that? Great player. He was super high on our board, you know, top 10 on our board, kind of stood out like a sore thumb, unbelievable character, football character, the type of guy that we look for the epitomizes, the type of player that we want in our locker room that would fit in with our locker room. And because we have a great group of guys, never been better. And to be honest with you, we had too many Michigan people over the years. We finally got rid of Brady, Spytek finally got out of here. We had to sign Ben Bredesen back because we needed, you know, he's a good player, but I needed to offset that with an Ohio State player. Nice, nice.

You know, you want to be fair or balanced. I get it. Well, you brought it up. You ruined what I was doing from the set in my spare time, Jason, which was texting all of my Buckeye friends about how there was a big fat zero of Buckeyes taken in the draft at that point in time. And three Michigan Wolverines had gone off the board. Oh man.

When Zabel went on North Dakota State before the Ohio State, I was having a great time. You ruined it, Jason, by taking this kid. I'm sorry about that. I wasn't thinking of you. Come on, Jason.

Got to think of me in these situations. But I imagine Baker's very happy with this draft choice, I imagine, right? Very, very excited for players like Baker, especially, well, Baker himself, he can never have too many receivers. I wouldn't be surprised if he's up in my office next week saying we need to, you know, trade for another big time player receiver.

So he can never have too many. So you went after Ibuka and your next four selections were on the defensive side of the ball. Is that best player available? And you just look up, go, oh, we got four guys in a row on the defensive side of the ball or purposeful targeting by you, Jason. The way we arranged our board, of course you want to do it by, you know, by talent. But this year when there was any kind of ties or they were close in talent, we favored the defensive player. And with Emeka, it was just a clear, he was a cut ahead of the players at that point in the, in the, in the draft, but the rest of the draft, it went just kind of the way we needed it. We needed some help defensively, especially in the secondary can always use pass rush. We'll never turn that down. And we've got some good players we felt like are going to really help us out in coverage. And then also some really good pressure players and David and Elijah. So we're really, really excited about all of them.

And they're great, great, great character fits as well. Is it a relief to go through a draft, not quarterback, needy, more than you can imagine, you know, I asked that question. I'm wondering what that's like.

It's yeah, I've only really been through it once. But it's, we're very, very happy and very, very fortunate that we were able to go from the goat to, to another awesome player. That's a excellent leader for us. And I mean, it would just fortunately got pinched myself every day. It's we don't, I don't think we really, we even realize how fortunate we are. Well, I mean, just to dig into that more, is it because that's the position where, you know, sometimes you got to throw the board out the window because you got to push the guy up because there's such a need.

It's such an important position that that is a relief for a general manager. You're shaking your head. It's like, cause I'd love to get more into that mindset. Jason, People do crazy things for the quarterback position. And I mean, I'm, I'm not unlike them.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't either. So they trade crazy amounts of picks, future picks, mortgage, their future crazy amounts of money to do whatever they can to hopefully land a quarterback that is going to be good enough to take their team to win with to the playoffs. So it's so quarterbacks generally get pushed up higher than what they normally deserve to be in the draft. To be honest, How much do you factor in your division in doing what you're doing? Again, I know you've won your division four years in a row. So, you know, I, I understand you might potentially and no disrespect, set your sights on how to take that position and win against other conference opponents. But I'm just wondering how much you factor in the three other teams in your division, knowing that you, you got to get that settled first before going higher up. Well, I think would never take any team in our division lightly. We've got, you know, a good rivalry going with all of them. And it's, it doesn't matter what the record is at any given time with any of these teams, we're always, you know, we're never going to take them lightly. That's just the best way to say it.

So I don't care who you're going against. You need to be able to rush the passer. You need to be able to score points. You want to have the best possible quarterback you can.

You want to be able to cover. So you take them into account, but at the, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Those are premium positions, no matter what, what division you're in. Quarterback, pass rusher, offensive line, defensive line, corner. So I think it would be the same to be honest with you, no matter what division we were in. Well, the last thing you want to do as a GM is have, you know, change, constant change at important positions, certainly on the coaching staff. It's another new offensive coordinator for you, Jason, two years in a row now, at least in which you've lost your offensive coordinator to another team's head coaching position.

What can you tell me about this offense with another change at that position and what you've been able to build and, and, and hand off to the 2025 staff, Jason? Well, one thing that we love is the continuity and Todd felt very, very comfortable with Gris as our offensive coordinator because of the relationships that he had with the players. He was in the quarterback room, particularly with Baker. Baker's felt very confident, very comfortable with him. And, you know, he's a really, really smart guy.

That's been in some different systems. He's been with Mike McDaniel. Now he's been with Liam, which is an offshoot of Sean McVay. So, I mean, he's, he's a really sharp guy and it was a seamless fit for us. And so far it's, it seems like it was a, it was a great decision by Todd. Jason, like couple of minutes left with the GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

I asked this of Howie Roseman when he was on literally an hour ago and might be an hour since I asked him this question. What, what's your opinion of, you know, the phone calls being made, the prank calls being made and how to prevent this from happening? Jason, you know, they're separate for the grace of, you know, the football gods goes anybody with the way that this thing all played out.

No one, no one wins in this front. Everyone loses and clearly it's something that's got to stop because it wasn't just Chidor who got pranked. It was a handful of others.

And I don't know how that happened, but I'll give you the floor as one of the 32 general managers here on this front. Your thoughts on it? I just think it's classless. It's, you know, it's these guys, it's their biggest weekend of their careers so far and for it to happen. It's just not really, it's kind of inexcusable. We my wife and I at last night, actually at dinner, talked to our kids about it. Hoping that they learn a lesson from it too. They're, you know, we've got a 16 year old, 14 year old, 11 year old, and you know, a young mind might think it's funny. But just kind of show them what the repercussions are of what if, you know, something like that is done, not just to them and their family, but more so to the family and the person that it happened to.

So it's, I think it's classless. So I, again, we were talking to Howie about it as well as to what to, what to do, because first of all you're not going to stop calling kids, right? Because again I'll give you the floor. It's important. It's important for you to know that they're what, healthy, alive.

I'm not, I'm not being flippant like that. You've got to physically talk to them before drafting them, right? Right. You know, I've been thinking about this.

I don't know what the solution is. It might be just simply that, you know, we get their numbers, but they, we have to FaceTime them so they know who they're talking to. Right. And then of course, you know, I mean, AI may get involved and people try to put on some, some, somebody may put on a mask that looks like me or something.

I don't know, but I think that might be the best way. Yeah. I mean like that's, that's, as a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, I saw a video of Andrew Berry FaceTiming Chador when they drafted him. I think it was just like, screw it. We're going to, we're going to show our faces to the kid who has been pranked already. You know, I think that happened, Jason, you know?

No, it did. It may be the solution. Okay. So what, what is next? What is your next order of business of work once you're done re reacquainting yourself with your family? Like what, what is in fact next for you here? So just, you know, getting ready for you know, we're in the middle or beginning of OTAs right now, the rookie mini camp is always an exciting time to see your new draft picks come in and all the rookies and the undrafted players that we're very, very excited about as well. And you know, just make maintaining the roster over the summer, but getting ready for our summer break, which everybody's looking forward to, but I know we've got a little work to do before we get there, but got to be honest, everybody's already kind of planning out their summer what they're going to do with their family. I know I am.

I know, I bet. And then there's one more membership meeting. Where do you stand on the tush push?

Well, how did you guys vote the last time? Well, transparency you know what they developed something that they're very good at and we stopped it once, but they, I don't know why we would want to punish them for and take away something that got very good at just because they're very good at it. I guess we need to keep up with the Joneses and try to become very good at it as well, or do what we can to, to stop it.

Well, wouldn't it be more fair if you could have somebody push into Vitavella right on the other side of it, or that now makes now that officially makes it dangerous. I know I'm serious. Yeah, there's a, I know there's a lot to it. We just signed a, a very large defensive tackle from university of Florida. And those two would be a heck of a tandem to, to do something like that with a, but yeah, we don't want to make it more dangerous. So I'm going to let the people above me, above my pay grade, figure all this out. But like I said, kudos to Philly for being very good at something.

Thank you. Among other things. Well, I mean, again, that is, that is definitely one of those things that I think a lot of people are, are pointing out, at least we were, is that it's, it, it does smack a little bit of a, you can't stop it, try and legislate it out. Like it does smack of that, to be honest with you.

Yeah, there is a, I feel a little bit of that as well. Who's that kid you, you got from Florida again? How big is he? Jason? How big is he again? Big Desmond.

Yeah. Supposedly he's lost quite a bit of weight already. So he's over, over 400 pounds.

That's right. I've heard, but my son told me about him, Jason, I'll be honest with you. My, my, my 14 year old tell me, oh, he's 400 pounds for real.

He's over. But he's, he's, he's a heck of a player. I mean, he was a cop recruit right outside of Tampa here at a high school in Armwood, Armwood high school. He, he hasn't missed any time at Florida and he's a pretty good athlete. He's, he's hard to run at.

I'll tell you that. 6'6, 460 he was listed at. That's what he's listed at.

You can't confirm, right? That that is, that is my God, honestly, did, has your guy Griz thought about, maybe you do put him on offense and that's the guy that you, you push of your own self seriously. Well, they, they did, they used him on offense a little bit. He had one carry at Florida and you know, we got Vida.

Vida was a running back in high school. So I mean, that's, that's a, we can have a little fun with this for sure. Jason, thanks for the time.

Enjoy the, the lacrosse that you're going to for your kid. And then your reconnection, as you know, I I'll say it on the air and I told you this, I saw you at the combine. You're one of my favorites. Thanks again for doing this brother. I appreciate you Rich. Right back at you. That's Jason Light, the general manager of the back to back to back to back NFC champ, NFC South champion, Tampa Bay Buccaneers right here on the Rich House. All right, let's take a break.

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Um, I'll jump right in. Are you surprised should door Sanders was a fifth round pick at the end of the day or no? Yes. I'm surprised he plummeted that far. If you told me he was a late second, I'd be like, nah, that doesn't shock me.

Even an early third, but fifth. Yeah. That surprises me.

Okay. So what were you hearing about the process that would make you unsurprised that he was a third round draft choice? Even there were no dominant traits or elite traits with him at all. Physically, you know, he's, he's got okay size. He's pretty accurate, but it's not like a lead arm talent.

It's definitely not elite athleticism. He holds onto the ball too long. He took a ton of sacks. People weren't, didn't love the style of offense that he came out of. And I think there were some, some legit questions going in about how does he fit in the quarterback room? And I think that last part of it about how people felt about how he, how he came through the draft process, ultimately I think was, was a big factor in him plummeting because there's only so many teams that may need a quarterback to draft one, but then you start getting into like with the Rams, look for an era parent for Matthew Stafford, the Seahawks, you know, would they look for somebody down the road, you know, post Sam Darnold.

But I think if you're one of them, you're sitting there going, okay, how do we feel like him in the room with those guys? You're talking about a guy who has always been the center of the attention. He was the star quarterback from the moment he got to Jackson State.

And then from the time they, they came to Colorado, he was the star. It was not like he was ever like the guy, one of a bunch of guys. And I think you had a guy who didn't go, you know, go to the senior bowl, didn't work out at the combine. And usually for guys who don't work out at the combine, unless it's an injury thing, you know, it's like, unless you're like a lock top 10 pick, you would want to see something right. And from what I was told, some of the interviews were not great.

Now, a lot of people have said, now they've heard that as well. Right. It was just. What about, what about while he was in college?

Any, anything like that? It's a different, it's a different deal. And like, you know, you got to remember like they had a, a unique ecosystem in Boulder, right? It was not the normal setup around the team.

It was a you know, kind of home cooked PR wing of it. Right. And so I think that was a different dynamic than you had anyplace else. Right.

It was almost like their own private channels on YouTube. So that was different. And I think if the talent is not jumping out at you, and I'm not saying this was the concerns on Travis Hunter, but nobody had doubts about whether Travis Hunter is an elite athlete. Chidor was a different story.

Right. I think if Chidor's skill set was Cam Ward's, he would have been a, he would still got taken, you know, in the first 10 picks, but he's not. I mean, the coaches I talked to in the NFL were like, they thought he was developmental. And, you know, I wrote this, I did a big draft confidential a couple of days before the draft for the athletic and it was Cam Ward and there was a big gap between whoever was second. And a lot of people did not think Cam was second. I mean, didn't think Chidor was second. Some thought it was Tyler Shucks. Some thought it was Jackson Dart. Well, he wound up being sixth.

Right. So what's more surprising to you, Chidor being the sixth quarterback taken or Quinn Ewers winding up the last quarterback taken in the seventh round of this draft? It's Chidor being taken where he was. I don't, I was always skeptical whenever I'd hear somebody go, oh, Quinn Ewers may be like a second round or some teams like him, maybe a third round. I had always heard like he was like a fifth round guy. So why'd he come out? I think he, I think he was, was done with what he was doing at Texas. He'd been in college for a long time.

But couldn't he have hit the portal? And I mean, wouldn't, wouldn't Miami have taken him? I don't know if they would have taken him over over Carson Beck. I mean, now Carson Beck was coming off a shoulder injury, but I think in terms of like the physical talent, if you ask people in football circles, yes, Carson Beck was considered a guy who could have been a first round pick.

I mean, he's got a really quick release. He sees the field well. I think he's played really in a lot of big games against a lot of really good defense. Now look, Quinn Ewers has played in a bunch of big games too, but I think people were concerned about his athleticism. They were also concerned about his durability. He'd never finished a season. And I think that's the chance, never finished a full season healthy. And there was some other things which you'd look at where I think on the evaluation, they were like, okay, these are things that, that are concerning with him, right?

I don't think they saw any wow traits in him too. He's got a good arm, but the athleticism is a big concern. So I thought he's probably in that fifth round range to begin with.

In fact, to go from fifth to seventh is much different than to go from second to fifth, I think. Bruce Feldman here on the Rich Eisen show. I mean, if we, if you wouldn't mind, Mr. Hoskins calling up the full list of, of quarterbacks that got drafted here, here they are. You know, Kyle McCord drafted in front of the two national championship game quarterbacks that that one kind of leaps out. You know, Jalen Milro is the fourth quarterback, though, has, has an elite trait that is, that is special. Tell me about his blazing fast. Like I'm not saying he can run, he's going to run exactly like Lamar Jackson, but he has rare speed for a quarterback. He's also got a very strong arm of all the guys on that list. Now he's not more accurate.

That's the style of consistency. Those are the things he is a project, but in terms of just arm strength and elite, elite athleticism, he's got that. So I could see somebody saying, Hey, we're going to have a package for him.

And then we're going to see if we can develop them. You know, I know Kalen DeBort has told me kind of gushes about his work ethic and everything. So I think I'm not shocked that he went where he went. Well, I mean, the word lottery ticket is what I was told about him out of anybody in the, in the draft. Obviously there's Cam Ward who's first overall. So you're expecting a, a an immediate start from him and obviously success. But Milro has got the biggest ceiling lottery ticket.

You buy it and you might, you, you might've hit the power ball and Seattle's a team that took him and clearly don't have any, there's no need or pressure to start him. Right. That they are going to surround him once he's there with a running game. That's the, you know, the style of play up there.

We all, we all know it. So I guess one long wind up here is how do you see the Dylan Gabriel, Shadore Sanders sweepstakes playing out in Cleveland? Obviously there's two other quarterbacks. There are veterans, but they have two rookies there. I, I can't believe that that's how they both got drafted to the same team in the same draft. It's so rare to see that in the top five rounds, but how do you, how do you see that? Just knowing, you know, the wiring of both kids.

Yeah. I mean, everybody loves Dylan Gabriel from the moment he, he kind of fits in seamlessly. I'm not saying people don't like Shadore personally, but I think there is a, there's a different kind of dynamic there in terms of the fit and everything else. Dylan Gabriel's smaller. He's a pretty good runner.

He has a quick release. He's older, he's older, but he's not a deep down the field, you know, take shots guy. I'm not, I would not be surprised if Dylan Gabriel's in the NFL for six years as somebody who's number three or something can get you out as like a, can get you out of a game. I, I do wonder if he has, if anybody looks at him and say, oh, I could see him as a starter. I think given the size of him and the stature, you know, he's a little, he's a little bigger than Kyler Murray, but Kyler Murray has much better arm. He's got a ton of juice in his arm and is a much more dynamic athlete. So I think it was like, Hey, we can have him in the room for, you know, and kind of insurance policy be good to see if we can, what we can develop him on. He's played a lot of football. He's played really well in different systems. I think Shadore to me is the one where if you don't like how he responds to, to this dynamic, this situation and what he's come out of and he does, and maybe doesn't take some things and, you know, kind of turn it in his direction.

It's not hard to cut the guy who is the 144th pick in the draft. Right. He's already shown up, you know, and I, I don't know. I, again, I might be again biased or glass half full.

I think the kid is going to, you know, take this as seriously as, as it appears that you're right. 144th overall picks get thrown on the August waiver wire every single year, over and over and over again. And it doesn't matter what your last name is or your college resume.

It really matters about what you do, do right now. I've got a couple more minutes left here with Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports and the Athletic. I want to ask you about a couple of narratives coming out of the draft and you tell me what your thoughts on it. Number one, a narrative is that Travis Hunter will not be able to replicate the number of snaps in the professional level as he did in Colorado. What do you know about the way that Deon handled him with the two coordinators and meeting rooms and the snaps and the games that could actually translate to the NFL?

It could. We've just never seen it, right. You know, like, but we never saw anybody do what he did in college. The difference obviously is the caliber of players he's going up against, especially and the offenses he's going up against are way different than what he's going to see in the NFL. You know, so I think he's rare talent, right? Like, I don't think we've ever seen anything like it. I've covered college football for 25 plus years.

I've never seen anything quite like him. So I think he could be a tremendous receiver. I think he can be an even rarer talent at cornerback. And to be honest, if he's a kid who's a guy who can get eight, 10 picks a year from that position, that can change games because possessions are even more momentous in the NFL than they are in college. So the people I talked to are a lot of on both sides of the ball in the NFL coaches. I think they felt like he's a DB and you give him a package on offense and let him, you know, in my story last week, I thought one of the DB coaches gave a great analogy about how quarterbacks are like starting pitchers in baseball.

They're not like closers. You need to paint the whole picture and be out there. And I thought it was a really interesting window into that. Again, I think he's going to, he's going to be a star wherever he goes. I think it was great for that franchise to get him. You know, like, I think it's awesome. It's the best thing that's happened to that franchise since they started in Canton, Ohio and whatever against the Panthers 35 years ago. I, you know what, I thought you were going to go with the drafting of Trevor Lawrence. No, it's better.

It's bigger than that. I get why that, well, yeah, because look what we've seen so far from Trevor. You know, it's been like quarterbacks to me are way harder to tell who's going to be great and who's going to be okay. And Trevor still may turn out to be great, but it's not looking that way right now. I'd be really surprised, you know, barring a bad injury for Hunter if he's not an elite NFL player. Transformational.

Yeah. Like he can be. And that's why I don't mind them making that trade. You know, Daniel Jeremiah came on yesterday, said he's spoken to 15, 20 different people in the evaluation business coaching everybody, not a soul thinks that Hunter is going to be able to replicate what he did in Colorado in terms of the number of plays on the side of the ball. And on top of it, he said he hasn't found a soul that thought that Cleveland shouldn't have done what they did, which is trade out, get one in their back pocket for next year, get some more this year, start loading up on picks, which does lead me to my next question, Bruce Feldman. So many people are saying the Browns getting a first round pick for next year, the Rams getting a first round pick for next year. Everybody who didn't take their quarterback in this year's draft is saving up their powder for Arch Manning next year, that they assume he will be in the draft. What do you think sitting here right now? That would be a great thing for Texas because that means he probably won the national title, I think.

And right now, if you ask me, whatever date it is, April 30th or 28th or whatever, 29th or 28th, I got it close, I got it surrounded. They would be my preseason pick to win the national title, right? They have keep, they've done really well on the portal. Everything I've heard from the people I trust inside Texas has been glowing about Arch. It's been glowing really from the time he's gotten settled in there.

So I thought he handled every situation A plus in there. Does he get one year as a starter and then he jumps to the NFL? I don't know. I don't think anybody there, everybody's just guessing, right? But I could see it. I think this will be a better quarterback draft, this next one than what we just had just cause I felt like we had one real guy and that guy, real guy was like a guy people thought was a fifth rounder this time last year. So it's often there is a guy or two, nobody thought Jayden Daniels was going to be that guy. Nobody thought Joe Burrow was going to be that guy.

You're out. And you're referring to Cam Ward at this point last year when people thought it was a fifth round selection? Yeah, but he goes to Miami and I mean, he just tears it up there. And I think that people also saw some stuff in him that maybe they didn't see coming out of Washington state, but you know, this next group, look, Drew Aller has a lot of physical talent. When you talk to people inside Penn State, they think he can be really special.

We got to see it, right? I mean, he's done some nice things statistically, but we got to see it. You know, Garrett Nussmeier is really talented at LSU. They should be a playoff team.

They should make a run. He has, he has legit, I think first round talent. There are a handful of guys already that you're like, Oh, this one's going to be interesting to see Carson Beck coming off the injury. A year ago, people thought he was a first round talent and I could see him having a really good year. And you know what the past year has, has, has done for him. So it's, I think this is a really good draft for quarterbacks or will be, but you never know. You never know. But your assessment is that for Arch Manning to be in the draft next year, Texas has to win it all. Not they have to, but I just think they've come close the last years.

You know, I think if he does, then obviously he's completed the mission. Yeah. That's, that's my, you know, but I guess everyone is basically saying, of course, you're going to get an extra round first round draft pick next year. Everybody's thinking about Arch, you know, everybody's already looking at them and I don't know. Is it, is it a given?

It's not a given. I mean, you know, in fairness to the other quarter action, honestly, in fairness to Arch, Arch has started like three games or whatever. And I think this is going to be the off season where he probably makes the most development because he has, he has some film, by the way, he's got four new offensive linemen that are around him. He's going to have good players, but that's a lot, right? You know, you had a, for a top 10, a top 10 offensive lineman who now is going to play for, you know, play for the Saints.

And then you have a handful of other guys who have to get settled in. I think he's got a really good system with Sark. He's going to have really good receivers again, different ones, but some different ones. But I think that it's it's really for him just to learn on the field and for all those things, you're going to be in the SEC.

The target is really going to be on your back now. Like, I think you're going to be the preseason number one. Again, it doesn't mean if they don't win the national title, that he is, that he's not coming out. And it doesn't mean if they win that, like, I don't know that nobody knows that. It's not like, you know, I had a conversation if I win the national title, I'm out of here.

Like, no one's, no one's doing that now. But I would say that would, that's what it would lead me to believe. You know, he's, cause he's only hasn't been in college and hasn't played that many games. If you're the Mannings and you're, and you're kind of calculating all this, you know how much time on task and how critical it is to play in a lot of games in a quarterback's development.

If he's had, if he's had, you know, let's say it's 16 starts next year, plus two or three, 18 starts is not a ton. You go back to those old Belichick, Belichick, Bill Parcells, you know, comments about quarterbacks, you know. But if you're also part of the game, if you will, of gaming it out, what I have to be, who's got the first overall pick or the most likely person to have it. You know, you mentioned the Saints, you keep mentioning the Saints.

If the Saints have the number one pick, he's obviously coming out. Well, I don't know, I don't know if there's a hometown aspect to it, but if they don't like the general manager or the coach or the ownership, he's not going there. They're a team going nowhere. They need some type of buzz drafting the grandson of one of your best all time players.

I know what they need. What the Manning's need is ownership, general manager and coach to not have their heads collectively in a particular orifice. And they will make sure arch goes to the spot where it's all in line. And, and it's, I actually think arch potentially could have more leverage than Eli did back, whatever it was 20 years ago. Just because I don't think, again, we're putting so many courses, carts before the horse right now.

But I think in just in terms of leverage, the fact that he even, even if it goes great, he's still only play had started like 18 games. Now the seasons are longer than in college than it used to be, but still. Thanks for the time, man. You know, we'll have you on, you know, as much as you're around, which is, it's that time of year. It's that time of year when you, you know, when you're not watch CBS this mornings and stuff like that, I thought you were going to ask me that about that circus.

I think we have a minute. You want to talk about it or no, but they just put out a statement like while I was in the green room, like, so saying that, you know, we have, we have the statement, I guess you want to, we want to, you want to pop it up. It was interesting that the personal and professional relationship that they were just kind of put out there like that. So it's, it's, you don't want to talk about somebody's personal life like that, but it, it reached the threshold, I think last weekend. Okay. Thanks for the time. That's, that's Bruce Feldman right here.

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I didn't quite understand the L thing being German speaking. And he said, well, just say the way it says, I'll be back. And I said, well, I'd rather say I will be back.

Sounds more machine-like. And he says, all right. This is what I mean. Are you the writer or am I the writer of the script? And he says, well, you're the writer. This is what, then don't tell me how to write. He says, I don't know how to act. Let's just keep that going like that.

It says, let's do 10 takes of I'll be back. Did you pick the one that you like? And that's the one that we do. And that's the one that we keep in the movement.

That's exactly what we did. But the interesting thing about it was no matter how much we argued about this, which we had daily kind of talks like that. It was a line that no one thought would be ever repeated again.

Really? No, no, no one thought this is going to be one of those lines that people will repeat. And so when, when the movie came out, I remember I was in New York and the guy came up to me after the screening, he says, Oh, I'm a big fan of yours.

I love your bodybuilding career. Can you repeat the line? I'll be back. And I said, I'll be back. And he says, no, no, no, no.

The way you say it in the movie. I'll be back. I mean, like a crazy guy, right?

And then it happened again and again and the next day again, and all of a sudden I said to myself, wow, this is kind of weird. I called Jim Cameron and said, I'll be back line. I said, I think he was so right. I said, because he wouldn't have been that cool. If I would've said, I will be back. Right.

And he said that I told him that it will work. And he says, but it's going to be the most repeated line I think in history. And then it has become really one of the most repeated lines. Yeah. And then just, and who knew that you were drilling down on what's the right thing to say, what's not, and that you were handling the most, one of the most famous lines in the history of movies.

Unbelievable. Good stuff with Arnie. His whole, he was like a 40 minute interview back in the day.

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Everybody getting ready for another women's sports now recording. Hi Susie. What is, what is it? Morning, Christopher.

What's your problem? Well, you just said hi to everyone in this room except me. That's not true.

That is absolutely true. You were busy saying hi to our guests. I said, I gave you the Massachusetts.

Hi, how are you? You didn't say anything. You didn't say anything. You specifically said hi. You said everyone's name. I noticed you said hi to Mike and TJ and RJ. You couldn't be more wrong. I thought why is Chris a little crusty with me this morning?

So glad I came over here. It's okay. It's okay. You can just admit it and say, I'm sorry. This is what Chris, what are we assholes who genuinely like each other?

What is his problems today? I was thinking you said hi to everyone except me. I said hi to you first. You did not.

I said hi to you before I said hi to Mike and I've known him for 30 years. This is ridiculous. Guys, can I jump in here? Women's sports now on Roku. Exclusively on Roku channel. We're back here on the Rich Eisen show radio network. Make sure you get your Hyundai today because every Hyundai offers available class exclusive advanced safety features that can alert you to potential dangers around you.

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I'm great. Women's sports now with your guest Malika Andrews, correct? We're so thrilled to have her on.

Malika Andrews, of course, the face of the NBA on ESPN, but we are leaning very... Careful, Stephen A might be upset with that. Okay, Stephen, you know how I feel about you.

You and I are like this. Careful now. And you know where my love is. But she's coming in. That said, she is drop dead gorgeous. She is so smart.

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They have nothing to do with the Rich Eisen show, but I mean, give it a coffee away for free. It can't all be about you. It can be about me. For the next two minutes, it's about me. Did you say hi to Rich?

She did this morning. Jeremiah in Alaska. Let's take your phone call. What's up, Jeremiah?

You there, Jeremy? Cloudy Alaska. What's up, bud? How are you?

You can see Russia. Good to know. What's up? Well, I was calling today because I heard about the Tyrese, Halliburton's dad waving the towel in Giannis' face and everything. And it's not good behavior from fan to athlete.

That's correct. But from fan to fan, like this happens in the stands all the time. And yeah, there's that guy that's that way, your drunk uncle or whatever, but he's he's going to be that way. But his actions are not horrible.

It's just when he goes from fan to athlete. Sure. Hey, listen, Jeremiah, I don't have a problem. Thank you for the call.

I don't have a problem if that was in Section 302 or, you know, or anything like that. But when the guy runs out on the floor and stands at the top of the key and staring with former MVP in the face and and he is just not only lost in mind blowing fashion, but potentially could be processing the fact that this is his last game as a Milwaukee Buck. And you're doing, hey, there's my son's face on a towel. It's just like, what are you what are you what are you doing?

What are you doing? Well, Giannis has always said that he wants to be gracious in defeat. Yes. And I think that he was doing exactly that of all players to do that in front of wrong one. That's a great point. Giannis has always ever been nothing but classy win or lose. Just crazy. Honestly, if if you had told me that it would be a caller after at the end yesterday show, hey, you're going to end tomorrow show with a caller saying, you know, Tyrese's dad waving a towel in Giannis's face, you'd be like nuts. What the hell?

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