Travis Hunter's 2-Way Warning

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That's right. One week from today, we will be doing our first of three shows from Green Bay, Wisconsin, home of the National Football League draft. So we're excited about going there. You can join us by watching on the Roku Sports Channel or listening on this Infinity Sports Network radio affiliate Sirius XM Odyssey. There's our YouTube channel as well for you to catch up on what we do here. Same thing with our podcast. All three hours are available. So if you missed the first two hours, great chat with Ashton Gente who certainly should have a short night on a week from tomorrow night on Thursday night of the first night of the NFL draft.

He was on in hour number one, the very engaging Sam Jager, actor from The Handmaid's Tale, the final season available on Hulu, which is available right here on the Roku platform. Paul Heyman's about to join us. Hey now. Wise man.

Do I break out this book that you suggest that I break out? I think so. It's over there. It's over there. I think, you know, it's worth it to bring it up.

The Jews in sports, great Jews in sports. Sure. I figured it would come.

Maybe get a kick out of it received from you. OK. You know, and he's once upon a time said he was going to walk out CM Punk if he was ever in the position that CM Punk will be in long term storytelling right this very weekend for WrestleMania. Yeah. If you if CM Punk ever made the main event, he was going to walk that out. And and it looks like he's he's going to do it despite Roman Reigns being his guy. He's not.

And then there's it's not happy. And then there's a third man in here to Seth Rollins, friend of the show, friend of the show. And he's mad at everybody. OK, so let's talk about with Paul Heyman. Paul's in it right now, bro. He's he's as much a man.

Randy Savage once said he's unjustifiably in the position he'd rather not be in right now. He's a gambler. Is Paul Heyman going to zoom in from the from the from the blackjack table? I don't know the wise man. He's pretty smart. I would say he's good with his money.

But that'd be against it'd be against brand. Yeah. He did post a picture of his room. I think he has like a pool in his twenty five thousand square suite. Does he have the hangover suite? That might look like it. Did he really post this?

He posted it. Well, you said it to the guys at home because I want to ask me if he's call if he's zooming in from there, I want a tour. This isn't the real Caesars Palace, right? No. Is that a Rain Man line? No, that's right. Hangover friendly.

Is this place pager friendly? That was on last night. I watched that. Fantastic. Fantastic. So Paul's going to be joining us shortly. Listen, you get information everywhere from the NFL draft.

Oh, yeah. Everywhere there's information. Just got to look for it. Got to know what it looks like when you see it to put his house up for sale. There are. I mean, you know what I mean?

Should I mention I got to screw it? I got a text from Josh Gad yesterday wondering if the Dolphins are trying to lose every game. I don't think he's terribly happy hearing the news that Jalen Ramsey's parting ways of the team with him and he with them and whatever.

But I don't know about you, but that looked like money. Maybe it's just too like what? Suddenly they're going to draft Dylan Gabriel and to having been signed for fifty million dollars a year is putting his house in the market. Maybe he doesn't want to live there anymore. Zach Wilson is there.

Maybe he doesn't want to live there. Oh, yeah. Okay. Got it. Oh, sure. Okay. You know what? Let me tell you something. Zach Wilson has, in fact, a history of causing people to have to sell their houses.

I think you know where I'm going. That's fair. Okay. He has in many ways, yada, yada, yada, caused people to call a real estate agent. Okay. It's not new to him is what you're saying.

I'm just saying that there is, there is history, but you just got to look, you got to look in places. There are conventional places to look like press conferences or somebody playing Fortnite publicly like Cameron Ward, as he is being called by the National Football League is he one of the 17 players who's going to be at the draft next Thursday night. So we're all expecting an early night for him. He's playing Fortnite and people are watching, right? I'm like, wait, is he twitching? Is that what it is?

Okay. He's streaming Fortnite. People are watching Cam Ward play Fortnite while answering questions. He was asked who his favorite receivers in the National Football League are.

And I'm wondering if you can pick up the theme from his answer. So y'all already said Ridley, Jamar, Justin, and then for my last one, my last one, Tralyn Burks, A.J. Brown's a dog, but he's not Calvin Ridley. My top four running backs in the league right now, Tony Pollard, Spears.

I don't know if he had the depth chart open. Oh, interesting. Tralyn Burks, top four receiver. What do they all have in common? What do those players all have in common? They all play together, right? Let me just see.

I'll go to the internet to check this out because I just want to be accurate. Let me see here because I see he didn't mention Julius Chestnut as one of his running backs or Jabari Small. That would have been the fourth one. I'm just reading from the depth chart of the Tennessee Titans. Oh, the Tennessee Titans. Right. You know. Right. He's going first overall. Seems like he's been told as much. I mean, that's it. He's just chilling. I mean, we talked to Ashton Gente earlier, right? We had Malachi Starks on Monday. The one running theme of every single one of these prospects that we've been talking to in the last week, they are all as a phrase that Susie and I use with our kids is nervous sighted, nervous and excited.

That's correct. They're nervous sighted. You could see it like they want it to be over the whole idea of where am I going? How does this affect my life? Where am I going to have to buy a home or real estate or release or what have you? Who's going to be my coach?

Who's going to be my teammates? It just hangs over and it's not their choice. And it is a lack of control that can be unnerving, but also excited. Nervous sighted. Cam Ward sounds not at all nervous.

He's just excited. And it's clear he's going to be number one. And, you know, we'll have the conversation that I think people are having trouble wrapping their arms around Cam Ward being number one overall for various reasons. One maybe because Will Leviss wasn't. And I know they were number one overall on the clock for a reason, but I mean, Will did show some flashes. And you're looking at Cam Ward and say, the only reason why you take a quarterback number one overall is because you know for sure he is the man and that is it.

And we are ripping the knob off and his ceiling is so huge. We cannot turn it down. And I don't think anybody watched Miami football all last year thinking that that was it, except for his amazing comebacks that everyone was just tweeting about or posting about on Thursday nights when Miami played those names, right? Your Syracuse orange knocked them the heck out. Knocked them out of the playoff. I mean, Kyle McCord had a better day than this guy in the final day of the year.

Sure did. And then all we were talking about Cam Ward was him just oddly playing only one half of bowl game football. But enough homework has been done and the Tennessee Titans are no dummies and they're going to go for him. And a lot of people are wondering if that is the surefire thing and or not.

And I guess we will find out week one when the Titans take on who knows, because he's going to be a week one starter. They're just going to throw him right in the mix and Will Leviss is going to have to deal with it. Now they can make whatever bones they want to talk about that. There's going to be a competition if that's the way they choose it.

We all know last year, he both Eber flutes was like what competition and that was a smart thing. Of course it was. Yeah. So that's what it's going to be. And then comes the number two overall pick in, in Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter. And listen, the, uh, the Browns could add Abdul Carter to miles Garrett and say, good luck. Good luck. Oh man.

Scary. But that also doesn't allow them to add a wide receiver and cornerback to their rooms, plural, because that's what Travis Hunter says he wants to do. That's more draft information. We found out, you can find out straight from the, uh, player's mouth. Now this doesn't indicate who he's going to play for in the way that we saw cam ward talk about it on his Fortnite feed, listing all of the Tennessee Titans depth chart as his favorite receivers and running backs in the league. Travis Hunter in an interview gave this pre-draft information, uh, that basically says, if you don't play him on both sides of the ball, he's not gonna play on the idea of focusing on only one position and quote, it's what it would mean for him.

It means never playing football again. That's I've been doing it my whole life. I love being on the football field. I feel like I could dominate on each side of the ball. So I really enjoy doing it. I feel very confident in myself. I competitive spirit. I put my mind to it.

I feel like I can do it. And, and by the way, you bet, you bet courtesy of CBS sports, you bet if you get him and you don't play him on both sides of the ball, you, I very rarely say this are a moron. You caught Michael moron the other day.

I honestly, no, I don't usually call NFL evaluators or coaches or whomever. You're a moron. I'm different. He's that good on both sides of the ball and let's see how long he can do it. Right.

The truth. He's a young buck. Let's see, let's see how long he can do it. And at one point in his career, he will know he can't do it physically. I'll never forget this Rod Woodson on NFL total access sitting with him. We had a young stud pass rusher, Sean Merriman of the San Diego chargers at the time came on and you know, the lights out, that was his nickname. And what he would do after he sacked is he would just jump up and down, like, you know, snap his feet while making a motion with one hand on rubbing his inside of his forearm because he had a tattoo of a light switch and he was turning it on and off.

Lights out, lights out, lights out. Rod Woodson looked at him and said, Hey man, at some point you're going to have to give that one up on the air. And Sean was like some young bucks. What are you talking about? You know, like respecting rod.

Like what are you talking about? Rod will go, you will just be of a certain age where you'll just be dog tired after stacking somebody and running around all day and you will not have the energy to do that. And I'll never forget that moment. Rod looks at this, this celebration and he goes, you're going to have to cut that out at some point because at some point you're just going to be an older man, dog ass tired without any energy for that sort of thing. You know, and that's the way I look at Travis Hunter. At some point he will look at that two way thing and he'll end up having to pick one, pick one side over the other. Maybe, you know, dab a little bit, have a Bo Jackson hobby on one side of the ball. But right now he should say such a thing. I don't want to play football if you don't play me on both sides of the ball because guess what? I don't want to play for a moron.

That's what he's, that's what he's leaving out. Now then you can also get draft information from a press conference and we got one from Joe Shane, general manager of the New York football Giants saying things into a microphone not captured by NFL films cameras behind the scenes. First up, is he going to draft a quarterback third overall?

What's up with Chidoor Sanders, Joe Shane, his answer? With the signing of those two players, I think we put our position, ourself in a position where, you know, I don't think that's mandatory or something that we're, you know, our feet of the fire and we have to do. You know, I think the two guys we signed have played a lot of ball.

They've got a lot of skins on the wall and I do think we've upgraded that room, you know, compared to where it was a year ago. I like the two guys that we have and you know, Tommy's still in there and he's won games for us too and he's still developing, you know, so we're happy with the makeup of the room right now. I don't blame him for saying that. Do you blame him for saying that? I know like, I know Giants fans are not like, they were clamoring for Russ or Jamis, but the whole point of this thing is though, is how much of patience is left in the tank, in the ownership suite. I mean, that is essentially everything that rules over the Giants. And I know John Mara is not going to be one of those guys that's going to, his patience looms over the team in such a way that it would affect decisions now or wins and losses in the fall.

He doesn't want to be that guy. But keeping the general manager and the coach intact, that definitely lends to this question that keeps being asked about the Giants and how they're going to conduct their business this year. Would they really go into this draft and not get a quarterback in the first round for a second straight year and go in a different direction and hope that it leads to enough wins that they can find a quarterback of the future down the road? Because neither of these guys appears to be the quarterback of the future of the Giants when the rest of the division has somebody like Dak making $60 million a year. And there's Jalen Hurts, who's on the time 100 list as of today as the reigning MVP of the Super Bowl. And then Jayden Daniels being the unicorn, you're going to just go Russ and Jamis. Well, I mean, you can, if you get one maybe later on in other rounds or next year, if you're lucky enough to be around long enough that they've shown enough gumption this year, that's what's hanging over this.

But I understand saying that they haven't proved the room. Do you think, isn't Jamis and Russ better than Daniel Jones and Drew Locke? Wouldn't you agree with that? I would think so.

Wouldn't you think so? No. Russ and Daniel Jones are a wash. Jamis is better than Drew Locke.

Okay. Next up, what about Travis Hunter? He's sitting there third overall.

Joe? Travis is a unique individual. You know, again, Dave said it at the owners meetings, you got to watch a lot of plays on him. So he's fun to watch. It's unique that the ball skills, the route ability, and then also the ability to go the other side and play corner.

You just don't see that very often. A lot of times, if these guys can't catch or they can't play receiver, then they get moved to DB. But this guy can do it all. Most people around the league seem to say he has all world potential at corner. He also has all world potential at receiver.

Do you share that boat where he can be that good at both spots? Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt the kid. I mean, he's, he's that type of athlete and he's had that type of production. I mean, it's, it's insane the amount of snaps he played, amount of snaps he plays a game, doesn't sit down, you know, goes over, gets a drink of water and gets back out on the field. So he's got that type of athleticism. He's got the right mindset. He's a great kid.

So I wouldn't doubt him. Hit it Mike. What were they really thinking? The two words I want to hear 15 minutes into the draft out of Roger Goodell's mouth are Abdul and Carter. That's it. I want to hear Abdul Carter going second overall. I'm serious. And I don't, I, and you know, guys, I would be watching big 10 football.

I come in here, right? What was the name I was saying to you guys all year long, pretty much every Monday talking about watching big 10 football. Who was I telling you about? Not, not that I was the only one, but seriously, right? 11 Abdul Carter. Yeah.

I was telling you, mr. Penn state, you know, that, that I seconded your emotions. Okay. And then he looks like the 11 of the 11th of old, right?

Yup. The Errington's giants will take Travis Hunter every day of the week. Put him on Broadway. Get outta here. Get outta here. Hey, Ross. Hey, Jamis. Hey, maybe you've second round draft choice at quarterback. That's Malik neighbors.

That's Travis Hunter. Oh, and Hey, on defense, you know, the front end that's second, everybody that we got tons of pro bowl players on. All right. You're going to have a little bit more time to go hunt because that kid on the back end two way player in New York city from the New York football giants taking on the rest of the NFC East. Oh, okay.

Sold. Lastly, what about trading the pick? Joe Shane, your, your, uh, your answer to that. Yeah, we'll, we'll be open to all options. I mean, those types of strategy sessions have been ongoing and, you know, talking through different scenarios. So yeah, we'll, we're always going to be open to, you know, either or those scenarios. We, we've received some calls. Yeah, we've received some calls.

Okay. By the way, you see, you know how locked in he is. He could have easily said that somebody calling right now for the third overall whole room in a laugh, laugh line, but he's too locked in. It's too close to the draft. This is too big. It's too serious. Somebody calling right now. No joking.

Especially for him. Who's calling, who would be calling the giants for third overall pick. Cause somebody wants Abdul Carter that bad.

So it is going to be, you want to move up one spot. Colin, I don't know who would be calling. That's the whole, like, I don't see it. I don't get it just in case, just in case Travis Hunter falls and the giants are like, nah, we won't take this unicorn player. We don't need the splash here in New York city.

We just don't saints jets quarterback for quarterback. Okay. I don't know. I guess I shouldn't, I shouldn't poop. You can't laugh. I shouldn't just dismiss it.

Someone in the top 10 other teams outside of that. That's a little much to call it. You're giving up a lot to move to three. If you're Dallas or Dallas and the giants aren't doing that. So, no, no, no. Right.

They wouldn't San Francisco trying to move up. I don't know. I I'm good friend.

I would let everybody know I'm open for business too. I'm just saying it's, it's more likely there's no trades in the top 10 than there is seems right now. Kind of feeling it kind of sentiment kind of getting it seems like it. Well, that's your draft update.

You're find things out when you ask direct questions in a press conference or you'll read it in an article or you're watching Fortnite on Twitch. Thanks to everyone else for doing that on my behalf, by the way. Thank you.

Thanks for Traywin Burke's top four waters. There you go. There you go. Remembering that for fantasy. That's right.

I don't know if I can agree. You know what I mean? That's straight out of the annals of Tyree kill saying I'm, I'm playing with Patrick Mahomes here in Miami. We'll put his house up for sale.

Am I reading it? Okay. All right, let's take a break. We'll find out a what's up with Paul Heyman when we return right here on the rich eyes and show it's WrestleMania.

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Our radio audience will join us in just a few minutes time. Maybe we should bring him in right now. He's still setting up. What's he doing? You there, Paul?

It's pretty good. Is the great Paul Heyman there? Good morning. Good to see you, Paul. How are you?

Pleasure's all mine. Oh, I'm... Transylvanian week. How are you?

I'm great, man. Here, real quick before we get started. I don't know if you could see the headline on this book.

Great Jews in Sports. I looked in here. I don't see you, Paul. What's going on, man? What the heck? What do you mean?

It's great Jews, plural, not greatest Jew. Ask the direct question, get a direct answer. I mean, I don't know. See, I just... We knew that setting you up would be like a spinning curve ball in the zone to the Bambino and you, you know, and we just didn't know what the answer would be. How far the home run would go, you know?

Straight out of the ballpark, right across the Grand Concourse, all the way to Rochambeau Avenue in the Bronx. That's it, man. Tape measure shot.

A tape measure shot from the Hall of Famer to kick things off. Yeah, I mean, I had this book a lot. My parents gave me this book when I started the show and I'm like, I don't know when I'm ever going to use it. So anytime that, you know, I have a fellow member of the tribe, I figured I'd bust it out, Paul. You know what I mean?

Muscle tub. Other than Goldberg and you. Am I missing any? Am I missing anybody in the history of wrestling from the tribe? Paul, you know, it's funny because within this industry, the tribe that I'm most concerned of resides on the island of relevancy where we don't have that many synagogues.

So besides the acknowledgement and the worship of the tribal chief, at the moment, I'm not really paying attention, especially on Friday nights as to who is not observing the Sabbath to appear on SmackDown. Is that the answer you were hoping for, TJ? As a producer, as a producer, yes. Ladies and gentlemen, Paul Heyman. Fantastic. Back on The Rich Eyes and Show Radio Network. All one big happy family, the WWE superstar, the wise man himself, one of our favorites, Paul Heyman in advance of WrestleMania 41 taking place this very weekend at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, streaming in the US on Peacock, everywhere else on Netflix. The great Paul Heyman.

Yes. How are you, sir? I'm a blessed man. How are you, sir? Well, I'm just looking around. Are you in the hangover suite, Paul? Like, what the heck? Where what's happening here in Vegas?

What do you got? Oh, my God. Oh, whoa. Is that a baby grand piano in your hotel accommodations, Paul? Is it really?

Yeah. If I would actually take you on a tour of this thing, you'd see a swimming pool, a gym, a whirlpool hot tub, and then there's the second floor. Wrestling has been very, very good to you, sir. Very, very good to you. Life has been very good to me, sir. And in all candor, I've been very good to you.

It is a two way street, man. WrestleMania in Vegas. WrestleMania 41. Is it true your first was WrestleMania 17, Paul?

Was that your first? My first WrestleMania 17. I was a commentator with Jim Ross. OK. And so that was my first appearance at WrestleMania. I was not in anybody's corner at WrestleMania. I was never with Brock Lesnar and Brock Lesnar's corner during our first run in WWE together. My first appearance in someone's corner at WrestleMania, as Irony would have it, was with CM Punk in 2013 in MetLife Stadium against The Undertaker, of all people. And the very next match, I was back out at the ring with Brock Lesnar against, of all people, Triple H. So all these historical figures kind of tie into each other when you look at the interwoven stories that are being told right now in front of your eyes on television. But so those were my WrestleMania debuts. Well, speaking of stories and weaving and bedfellows, Paul, you once upon a time famously told CM Punk that you would walk him in if he made a main event at this event. And sure enough, he is doing so.

But there's Roman Reigns, your guy, and there's also Seth Rollins. Are you going to walk CM Punk in this very weekend, Paul? You're going to do it?

Absolutely. I will live up to my promise to CM Punk. I will live up to my promise to my best friend in the world, CM Punk. I will be loyal to my best friend in the world, CM Punk, which does not mean I'm going to be disloyal to my tribal chief, Roman Reigns. OK, so how does one split this baby, Paul?

I mean, what do we do? One of my people, I'm allowed to say this. I don't believe the whole story about splitting the baby with Solomon showing wisdom. So wise me.

I understand the wisdom. But what Solomon did was petulant. Solomon was not sitting there and the two women bring in the baby and they say, this one is mine. This one is mine.

Solomon. And he sits there and says, we'll cut the baby in half. And of course the real mother says, no, no, no.

Give it to her. I was lying. You must be the real mother.

That is not what it was. Solomon was sitting there. One woman, she goes, Solomon, this is my baby. Give me the baby. The other woman, she says, baby, give me the baby. And Solomon goes, I don't want to hear this.

Cut the baby in half, give half to each. That's what happened. So I will be more than sitting in my in my wisdom and how to balance these two dueling loyalties. OK, so my tribal chief, Roman Reigns and my best friend in the world, D.M. OK, I can just see, by the way, the headlines now while making it sound like it's a Mel Brooks movie, Paul. I mean, that's that sounded like a very interesting reenactment of an age old story. But I guess one last swing at this one is Roman Reigns pissed.

Is he really pissed, Paul? Before Roman Reigns' love for his wise man. What is what is loyalty and love and appreciation if it's not demonstrated with great passion and at times a jealous possessiveness of those that you love? If if if your son were to look at another man who has poached him through a tough time and said he's like a second dad to me, I guarantee you, you want to sit here and go, oh, I'm happy for you, son. I'm glad you look at two men in life as your father. You sit there and go, Sam, it's your father. I'm your father. Consider him an uncle or a mentor or a guide or a rabbi or a priest or a shaman.

You wouldn't want someone else to be considered a second dad. Roman Reigns' love for his wise man is not confined to just, oh, everybody can have the wisdom of the wise man. Roman Reigns' love for his wise man is possessive. He loves me that much. He appreciates my wisdom that much. And who could blame him because my wisdom is worth it. So of course, Roman Reigns is pissed. Who would be disappointed in the man if he wasn't pissed, if he wasn't upset, if he wasn't a bit jealous or obvious or possessive? Fantastic way, TJ, to set up, right?

The main event. What do you think? Fantastic way.

And then, you know, you had to follow this man on a microphone, which is very tough. Wise man. Hello. Good to see you. I was comparing you to the Macho Man Randy Savage earlier when I said right now you're unjustifiably in the position that you'd rather not be in, having to maybe choose between Roman and CM Punk.

I'm not going to ask you what your plans are, but I do have a question. On Tuesday after this weekend, after WrestleMania night one and two and after Monday Night Raw, what are wrestling fans going to be talking about on Tuesday morning? The person of Paul Heyman to the Macho Man Randy Savage.

I think you just stole the weekend from everybody. And I applaud you, sir, for your brilliant question. It was it was almost almost Heyman-esque in its wisdom and application of the logic. That's why he's one of the hosts of no contest wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. That's for sure. I have nothing else to say because I can't follow this up with anything.

So well, I'm also tough because I listen to you too, as well, sir. So what will they be talking about Tuesday? Other than that, Paul, what can you what's your your sage view here on that? The the trajectory to WrestleMania forty two. OK. And how Paul Heyman fits into that equation as well.

OK. So what do you do in Vegas? Paul, what's what's what's Paul Heyman doing? What do you what is a Vegas week look like for Paul Heyman, WWE superstar? Prepare for the Rich Eisen show. I celebrate my participation in such afterwards.

Do you hit a table, Paul? No, no. You don't do that. You don't do that sort of thing. Not interested in gambling at a casino.

I'd be far more interested in owning a casino at a boy. I like it well like that. It's like I don't go to events.

I produce or present or write or perform in events. I don't know how to be a bystander. I don't know how to sit in the crowd.

I just it's not how I'm wired because I'm not a blackjack table. I'm sitting there trying to figure out, wow, I don't own this thing. How do you market this thing? How do you present this thing?

How how do I pull from those who pull from it from the masses? So when was the first time you ever went to Vegas? You see a show like what about that? Paul, give me that one.

No, no. The first time ever arrived in Las Vegas. I really don't remember that. I know that I was performing here at the Tropicana with the A. W. Vergina's A. W. A.

When I was 21 years old. What were you doing? What are you performing? I was a poly dangerously managing the original Midnight Express on ESPN.

Paul E. Dangerously, huh? Carrying the Zack Morris brick phone that we have in front of the. OK, I like it.

All right. They call it a Zack Morris brick phone. It should be the poly dangerously phone because that prick stole it from me.

I mean, how many times has the entertainment business stolen from me? And then, you know, the Zack Morris brick phones. Now, if you want to call it the Gordon Gekko brick phone. Yes, I like that character so much.

I'll even get him. I'll give him the credit on it. But the Zack mark Zack Morris saved by the frickin bell. This goes back to 1994 when I changed the name of ECW from Eastern Championship Wrestling to Extreme Championship Wrestling. And six months later, Extreme was just in foam all over the world.

Extreme Taco Bell, Extreme Whopper, Extreme Big Mac, Extreme Ford truck, Extreme Chrysler Pontiac, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then in 2013, 2014, when Brock Lesnar conquered the street, eat, sleep, conquer, repeat. And nobody had heard of that phrase before. And within a year, everywhere you went, eat, sleep, blank, repeat.

It's still going on to this day. And now it even goes back to all the way back then when I was the only person in movies, television, any music, any form of entertainment or sports that had a phone with me 24 seven. Well, people would even say to me, you carry a phone 24 seven.

Why do you do that? There it is, right? Yeah, I've had this is my real phone. Like I this was my phone. These are the best people would say to me.

Nobody walks around with a phone 24 seven, 365. Listen, this is not a prediction. It's a spoiler. This is the future. And I'm ahead of the curve. And of course I was the big brick phone.

And now here we are decades later. Is it the Paul Heyman brick phone? Is it the Paulie Dangerously brick phone?

It's the Zach Morris. So why do we give him any credit as a man to begin with? Well, you'll be then pleased to know Paul, not just, this is a flex for us as well, but the one that we're here, I can confirm that. But the phone that is that is being held up is in fact signed by Michael Douglas as Gordon Gecko when he appeared on this program, because you and I share a similar thing other than just being great Jews in sports. We only know one way to do things, Paul, you know what I'm saying? You and I only one way we know how to do it. It says number one or not at all.

That's because it's all the race of life. If you're not number one, the view is all the same. And then if I'm not mistaken, the man, the artist formerly known as Paul E. Dangerously, who was ahead of his time with a brick phone, you are also the host of the all new 2K showcase, if I'm not mistaken, 21st century style, correct?

Why don't I give you the floor on this, Paul? Well, 2K Sports in their infinite wisdom reached out not only to your tribal chief, but also to your wise man to be on the cover of WWE 2K25. They also had us on the cover of the special bloodline edition of WWE 2K25. And then they have had me do a whole bunch of media that no one from the sports entertainment industry has done before. So massive credit to the expansionist concept and the marketing of WWE 2K25 cannot just limit us to media that typically covers wrestling or media like yours and only covers the very, very top end of this industry, but to expand us into other genres and avenues of media and publicity that had before never touched a subject even, even if it's video games, even if it's a multi-billion dollar video game that had never touched the subject before, even though in some ways it was worthy, but never worthier, or it's not a word.

I correct my own grammar. I asked my mother for forgiveness, more worthy than when Roman Reigns and Paul Heyman are on the cover of the game. The all new 2K showcase. There's that.

And then of course, WrestleMania 41, Saturday and Sunday at Allegiant Stadium and the event streams live in the U S on Peacock everywhere else on Netflix. Um, and you, you, you have this room for five nights, huh? This is impressive.

I mean, my God, I'm leaving, you know, I don't know if you noticed this and I, and by the way, I will go public with this. I owe you an appearance there live in your studio. Okay. Thank you. It's a debt. It is, Oh God, I can't believe I'm promising another one, a favor that I owe you, sir.

And as you see, they go out of my way as in the WrestleMania main event to Saturday to repay favors, even at great personal cost to me, I owe you an in studio appearance and I assure you, I will be repaying you that at some point, whether it's in the calendar year of 20, 25, I don't know if I'm leaving this sweep. I don't know. I just don't want it to take 13 years.

Like it has for CM punk. That's all. I just don't want to do some, some, uh, some human born now gets bar mitzvahed before you actually come here. That's all I'm a boy.

Aren't you? I'm from New Yorker. I'm a New Yorker, but speaking of Chicago, it's all good.

Speaking of Chicago, we're only 880 miles away from Chicago. I can sell you as like a neighbor to CM punk. It's all good.

No problem. But somebody from Iowa, who you know very well, who you'll be seeing this weekend, uh, Seth Rollins is going to guest host this show. Uh, later on this summer I offered him a spot. He said he was doing it and he's a man of his word as well. So this is a friendly place is what I am saying some time off after this. If it is Saturday, ladies and gentlemen, rich, maybe Paul comes to the studio and visit Seth.

We don't know. No, no, no, no. That's Seth can book his own. That's true. That's Seth can book his own program.

That's true. Good to see you, Paul Heyman. Thanks again. Pleasure is all mine. Thank you for having me. So right back at you ladies and gentlemen, 41, uh, Heyman hustle himself, uh, on, um, Hey, Heyman hustle on Twitter, Paul him in on Instagram.

And of course the, uh, the wise man around the rest of the world, right here on the rich eyes and show from the rain man slash hangover suite. My God, how about that? He said, there's a pool, there's a piano, and then there's a second floor. Oh my God. That man is, he's amazing.

One, one of a kind of one love chatting with him. He said, that just might be the, uh, the, the new, uh, what edition, great Jews in sports. You can see how old it is right here. It's it's, it's, it's tearing.

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Great Jews in sports. Would you autograph that book for me? It's a little tiny, but no, it's not a pamphlet. It is a thick ass book. Okay.

It is significant because it's about the history of the entirety of sports in America. Okay. So we go back.

Yeah. It's it's it's we buried it. Why do we have the great Jews in sports book completely buried on the, on our set? I mean, it's got its own spot. Everything here has its place. There it is. There it is. You know, it's way in the back. It looks like is on the front cover. And I'm an inductee in the Southern California Jewish sports Hall of Fame.

Yeah. But the best part about this is it's a revised and updated with an introduction by red our back. This book can not be this thick. It's real, man.

Max Freeman, pioneer basketball. Turn it all the way to the back. Well, how many pages is there? What would the book ends on what page?

The Maccabee games are back here. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The book ends. What's the last number?

31, 331 pages. Jeff Schwartz is going to autograph my copy of great Jews in sports. There you go. Star of David. Have you ever signed?

Give me the book and I'll hold it up right here. Let's see what this looks like. What do you mean when you signed a toilet seat? Yeah. At Oregon, we had this like, you know, like the big day where everyone comes and signs things.

And and someone guy brought a toilet seat one year and they brought a toaster the next year. Okay. Oh yeah. There you go. Do you, do you know who the, you and your brother were the first Jewish brothers playing in the NFL since, you know, the 1923 it's in my book, you must Schwartz.

It's like the start of the book. You know, the name of the, do you know the names? Yeah. It was a, it was a free, it was the Friedman brothers, right? No. Oh no.

The many Friedman who, by the way, went university of Michigan, father of the modern pass. I should know this. I think I'll give you, I'll give you Ralph and Arnold. Yeah. Sure.

Wean. Yeah. I used to know. I used to, I should know that it's in my book, but yeah. Yeah. That's that. I do know. Ralph was an all American at Harvard. Oh, his mother of us has been so proud. Yes. Won the 1920 Rose bowl played under the alias of Ralph McMahon and Irish name. What the hell?

Are there in the book? I just went to, I just went to local Oregon. Geez.

Arnold played four seasons for Racine Chicago Cardinals with his brother. Let me look it up. Hold on a minute. Here we go. Here we go. Hold on a minute. Uh, are they in here?

The whore wings are not in here. Are they under the Irish name? Red Holtz. We got to look under McMahon just in case they put the Irish alias in here. No. Red Holtzmann's in here.

Hi youtube.com slash rich eyes and show for all of the times I busted out the great Jews and sports book. You know, he signed it. Edelman signed it. This guy signed it and Mitchell, both Schwartz has signed it and breggy. Let me see.

I don't have it on me anymore. He might've been the first one. He might've been, he signed it.

Alex Bregman though. So I don't know who, did you get two shorts for the price of one? Let me ask you this question. You can't, you can't call somebody new to the team by their nickname within the first two weeks of them joining the team. When he's raking like he is.

Yes, you can. Are you wearing his Jersey too? Not yet. Thank you, Mike Hoskins. What?

What are you saying? He's on my team. Oh, he agreed. Team Brockman.

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A word? She is in studio. She did the red carpet with the WNBA draft.

She is absolutely gorgeous. You don't need to go to Green Bay to be honest. We decided to do it while TJ was out of town just in case he had like a heart attack or a meltdown because she's tall.

I'm saying Rich, do you really need me in Green Bay? Not really. And also, by the way, put out the best tweet ever. She's like, oh Lord, please don't let me be the first person to get dunked on when Dominique Malonga was drafted to France because that girl puts up a nasty dunk. Okay.

And by the way, tell that to Shaq, the first ever guest on Women's Sports Now who said he wanted to lower the rims. I know. See, I watch the show.

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The smarter of two. Which two? Which two?

Which two? I don't know what that means. Oh, Brekkie's guy. It's Cage's mom. Alex, we should have Alex Bregman on the show and I'll introduce him to Brock Shady. I just met you, but let me refer to you as Brock Shady.

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