The Blinding Power of Hatred; and the War on Cops

We have seen this weekend the blinding power of hate. What about the liberating power of love stage for the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH.

That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown yesterday morning, Sunday morning I was at my home, which I do. Maybe every six weeks and I was bringing a message on everything will be shaken and how should we live in the midst of the shaking that's all around us the turmoil and pain in the society to sit is something that has been here through history and will continue to be here intensifying measure until the end of this age and talked about the recent shootings and talked about the terrorist attack in France and talked about so much that's dividing America and then finish the message and someone came up to me and said look at this and it was the report of the shooting of cops killing of cops in Baton Rouge Louisiana it yesterday. Everything were talking about the very thing where somehow we as God's people must rise to the top by bringing a message of reconciliation by bringing a message of justice by bringing a message of eternal hope this is Michael Brown you're listening to the line of fire 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884.

My wife Nancy and our younger daughter Megan, her daughter Eliana were visiting our older daughter Jan and her family in Maryland over the weekend they came home Sunday night and we were talking about the recent events and they can show the a picture of one of the officers who was killed in Louisiana.

There were three officers killed three of his wounded one critical condition and through the officers were white service black married a new father and he had posted on Facebook. Just last week about the pain he was experiencing as a cop now. With everything going on in the society and it was just very poignant. It was heartfelt. It was genuine. It was caring and there he is killed by another black man, and obviously it was hatred of police that drove this man to murder terms of his own statements that he's made. It was about quote justice, which for him meant murdering people in cold blood and and our I wrote this down a posted this on Facebook with a picture of this slain officer and his baby boy and I'm I made this comment. This is Marshall Jackson, one of the officers murdered in Louisiana today with his baby son.

Apparently this black life.

Didn't matter to the killer, suggesting that the killers hatred for cops was greater than his love for his people, such as the blinding power of hate and that's why friends whatever we do, we must rise above the spirit of the world and rise above the spirit of the age and not respond to hatred with hatred and not respond to anger with anger and not respond to violence with violence. We must overcome evil with good old there is absolutely a place for justice. Of course, there's absolutely a place for God's people are advocates of justice, but we see what happens when irresponsible rhetoric goes around when when people's worst emotions are appeal to on all sides of the debate, and right now families in agony and tremendous turmoil throughout the nation. I'm reminded of what Golda Meir once said, peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us. Got a lot to talk about today on the lawn a far as always will be constructive that will build you up in the Lord will challenge you to go deeper. Let's put down the flesh with its carnal emotions which only leads to death and destruction. And let's exalt Jesus principal changing the world right back hey friends, this is Michael Brown I would encourage you to join our support team today become a torchbearer.

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Click on donate file. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown danger of that police across the country every single day. As a nation have to be loud and clear that nothing justifies violence against law enforcement attacks on police or an attack on all of us present. Of course, speaking about the murder of the cops in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. So here's my question. It does not matter to me which races what your ethnicity is what your skin color is with your follower of Jesus or not. In terms of your response to this question. Do you feel that there has been irresponsible rhetoric on any side of this issue. Now that has led to bloodshed you feel there has been irresponsible rhetoric, be it by the president, be it by black lives matter. By Donald Trump, viewed by some news commentator, be it by protest groups, I'm asking a broad question. Do you feel there is irresponsible rhetoric that has led to further bloodshed. I fully understand there can be a deep sense of frustration. One caller some days back said to me, so we feel there is injustice in the society. So we wait for the courts to fix things in the courts do not fix things so that it leads to anger and rage understand that when that anger and rage then leads to other sinful acts that obviously it's destructive and I think of Jacob.

James I chapter telling us that the anger of man does not accomplish God's righteous will.

So there is a righteous anger that is holy and that is good that leads to right results and right action and there is an unrighteous anger that is destructive in soap, so many ways. I always get concerned when I hear rhetoric. For example, a pastor rejoicing after the the slaughter of a 49 at the gay lesbian bar in Orlando.

The massacre there and the wounding of many others and I hear this pastor get online and put up a YouTube video rejoicing.

Let's good news is good news because that's 49 less pedophiles and and so on him to renounce that immediately.

It's ugly. It's destructive, it's not God's heart and it could encourage others know he's not calling for violence and in his view with the I did was wrong actually gone through the courts and the court should put people to the death of that should be death penalty in our society.

That was what he was saying on and immediately renounce that my cousin can't prove anything to the gay and lesbian community to change. Think me doing that.

So they go to make me lovable and appreciated.

Know what they'll say is is one homophobe is not as bad as the other homophobe 11 bigoted homophobe, criticizing an even more bigoted home for dinner, to impress people when human favor I'm doing that to be responsible on doing that as a witness as a voice to renounce that which is sinful and destructive that which is contrary to the gospel that which will drive people away from Jesus and anything that might potentially open the door to acts of violence. That's why I took on and Theodore Shabazz dangerous position on this as well that that could encourage acts of violence because of irresponsible rhetoric, the same way. I've listened to some of the protests be a black lives matter. Others and I said that is irresponsible rhetoric that is incendiary that is destructive not. I want you to hear something.

This is from out sterling's aunt out. Sterling was the man who was shot dead by police in Louisiana. His funeral was just a few days back and not surprisingly, this is where the Attack Takes Pl. in Baton Rouge just a couple days after his after his funeral out sterling yes had a police record yes been arrested about 20 times.

I believe there were other strikes against him illegal firearm possession in the past and police recall when they got reports of of a man threatening someone else with a gun so they respond with the reports understand that out. Sterling was that man and I tried to subdue with Taser when he fought back.

According to the police and reached for a gun in his pocket. That's when they shot him dead. Others watching the video, so there's no possible possible way to justify this. The men never should have been killed his 15-year-old son.

His oldest son speaking against violence, not wanting violence obviously brokenhearted that his father was killed.

You can understand how this can inflame emotions around America and understand the police officer say you understand what were dealing with, as is his life for ours unity stamper getting shot at all the time and here you got some of the record and insulins is not complying resisting arrest if he did resist arrest. Nothing would happen to be alive today and if he was guilty of a crime that day than than he paid the penalty for.

In any case. In any case, this is what out sterling's aunt Vita Washington apostolic had to hear this click number one and she's responding out to the latest shooting and I want you to hear this because it's it's riddled with emotion and with pain and it speaks to us quite directly when death had a meeting yesterday that makes someone a car not just helping not just that mean you don't get your gonna theme somebody like me a black African-American and African on every corner. We don't know how hard it is that they go after you compound bow, badly, no� That can lead it's it's it's hard hard not to hear that without feeling that the pain of this woman who lost a nephew and now she's identifying with the families of the cops who have been killed and I'm listen I'm not putting everything in the identical category because we don't know all the circumstances involved in in every shooting we do know is for sure that there are people bereaved people in agony and when you hear no justice, no peace. What is she made this she mean go out and kill someone.

Is that which he means that she mean if you feel there's an injustice will not you go carry out an act of violence. If you feel the cop took a life you take cops like no she send the exact opposite to say where you keep raising our voices. If we feel there is injustice. If referral being targeted if you're being treated unfairly working to keep raising our voices were gonna keep making our presence known. But we absolutely are poor bloodshed.

We absolutely are poor people who taken the law in their own hands and now you have someone else who is guilty of cold-blooded murder. Of course, is paid the price as well. Shot dead in the midst of it. Let us be very careful friends, let us be very careful to think about what we say to think about what we post on social media to think about the message. What will it stir up in people.

What will they produce in people all listen, I'm the last one to advocate apathy on the last one to advocate this whenever bad things happen, no, no, lives lost. Were talking about families fracture in their been in the midst of a gun battle or something like that. So the closest I've come is like most of us that haven't been in a gun battle. Having served in the military in the midst of war closest I've come in. Most of us encounters watching TV or movie. I was just trying to meditate on the reality of the horror that these people have experienced in the heart of the shots ring out in bodies falling people getting phone calls about love. Once we must be responsible. We must say am I cultivating in people, the spirit of love respray to pay. Am I cultivating in people. A call for justice or a call for retaliation. Am I provoking people to get closer to God and reach out and love to make a difference in my driving people by fleshly emotions, 866342 you think there's been irresponsible rhetoric reading bloodshed that her plan by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown what is your response to the idea that hashtag should be black lives matter. It should be all lives matter. You know it's interesting they were people are frustrated that black people are focusing on the unique trauma that black people are facing this country and I would never go to a breast-cancer rally and yell out colon cancer matters is not something going on here is that they are frustrated by the fact that people are focusing on the inequity and injustice specifically targeted by people we know the way black is a function in this country is unique trauma and an additional way. We also know that you focusing on black people that other people also benefit.

I will we get to equity and will we get to just south I think of all lives matter as a distraction technique that is probably one of the most online distraction techniques of the membrane doesn't get us away from talking about the key issues at hand, which are police violence in our world that we want to live in which is a world were present.

This is Michael Brown. That was glitzy to have the name right here yesterday Meco McKesson on with Chris Cuomo on CNN discussing a very valid issue. I will reset all lives matter, does that downplayed the identify closet matter are we denigrating things is it like going to a breast-cancer fundraiser is a habit but colon cancer matters to. I have only used. I have only used the the all lives matter statement when I felt we needed to draw attention to the overall pain-and-suffering in the nation.

So for example, about two weeks ago after the killings in Dallas here, I'm looking at headlines earlier in the week black lives matter with the deaths of of of out sterling and the gentleman in Minnesota looking at those two deaths and seen the headlines black lives matter and then late Thursday night seen the headlines from Dallas blue lives matter speak of the police.

I thought all the Americans hurting right now and yes, we need to shout out all lives matter and and that's what I said yesterday I tweeted that out. It's not racist to say all lives matter when your policeman lying dead in the streets shot murdered in cold blood.

It is going to be both, and that we proclaim it is not to denigrate black suffering is not to denigrate unique challenges that black Americans face, absolutely not. But when you have atrocities like this taking place were law enforcement agents are murdered in cold blood twice what actually happened at several other attacks as well.

But in these these two these horrific bookends in Dallas and Baton Rouge. Of course Anna shout out than all lives matter if it's the context it's the context of the larger sensitivity since I've constantly address questions of injustice when they come up and discuss them on the radio and asked the hard questions. Of course I can freely then speak of these other issues as well. Now in the second hour I'm going to have on the air with me. Heather McDonald was written the book more than one cops. I think you'll be shocked by some of the information that she produces. If you're unable listen live on the radio to go the website asked her to run a SKU or Brown.org you'll be able to listen. There, or just go to the website later today and the entire two hours of broadcasting will be posted again to me the big issue is that we are responsible in our speech. I want to know how the words I say affect you.

In other words, maybe I'm not recognizing your particular situation and when what I'm saying there is insensitivity.

Or maybe there's a blind spot on your end that I can point out, or maybe you might say Mike, you don't intend to do this, but the results are.

This will these are things that are important. That's why I as a talker as a preacher and teacher in radio host, etc. and author. I'm constantly weighing words.

I'm constantly thinking if I say this, what will the produce. I don't mean to please people.

I need to be responsible before God, 866-34-TRUTH.

Let's go to the phones and we will we will start in Baltimore, Maryland Rodney, thank you so much for calling today.

I am doing well thank you sir. I believe the media prop are wildly immediate problem area making up came across briefly about how the media ordinary people are conducting an exemplary request and I will be feeling news about local ecology. Whether you see it without fear not like really minuscule.

Some of the light completely all-out long touted about some of my degree of my day so you start and that leaves me up to another part of remarkable research about being right in on the night people talk to people and other pop up like that, you know that they are being told about that way not being told the whole story. All the situation was gone. Evidently added to route with somebody you just showed up exactly now understand that not making any based on a video that I started to guide cold or the debasing by body language about what he was talking he pretty much.

In my district of God that I want to kill people going to lock me up, kill police Balcones Street so I don't think matter of he wanted to go and attack the police department relax.

Because law is not my candidate go to my car. You could watch the local police department and all current he could watch the police department that within that number on the street between him and another guy showed up and Danny the police because like lacrimal. They don't want to go to bed at night media spin on it like the continuation of the black lab movement and the spot back went on ago when he posted people you want to associate with anybody you apparently it apparently had been in the Nation of Islam before, but said he's not affiliated friend. This is quote just to say hey Ronnie I just got a jump in first. I appreciate you highlighting the way the media can report things because there can be sensationalizing and often the goals the media is not to bring understanding or to bring unity, but to get ratings to get viewers. So in essence the more sensationalistic the better. I had not heard from what I read any of the narrative that you just mention Rodney so let me let me not say anything and until a dig a little deeper. Obviously if you're out wearing body armor year.

You're expecting more that the question of course is what influences someone in society.

You may not be officially affiliated but what influences us what's driving us but we gotta do.

Gotta do is sit down and say hey, some between you and me rod that is between me and my neighbor union and another which we can't let the world intrude between us and we must say okay let us come together and talk and listen and learn and stand together for justice, sensitive reconciliation. Gotta break friends. We have had on many guests to address these issues is deeply and fairly as possible. Check out the archives of our past shows we've got a tremendously important resource offer discounted website check it out it's the light a fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

Looking back, friends, and another desponding in Minnesota to a domestic disturbance report and apparently Hispanic man came up to the officer sitting in his car 31-year-old officer with 13 years of service. He was shot multiple times. Apparently saved by his bulletproof vest and then they found the assailant dead by apparent suicide, not for a way is this related to the attack on police is this unrelated God knows those details, but right now there's a tremendous pressure on police officers of an when you read that the statement, the officer who was slain in Baton Rouge. The black officer who was slain in Baton Rouge posted on Facebook of just a few days earlier said he was physically and emotionally tired express how difficult it was to be both a police officer in a black man said. I swear to God I love the city, but I wonder if the city loves me is that I've experienced so much in my short life in these last three days have tested me to the court was posted July 8 and and he talked about the challenges he had in the black community as a police officer. The way that they would look at him because he was an officer and then because he was a big black man the way other people would look at him as if he was a threat few distant civilian close so he understood both sides both sides of things he said these are trying times. Please don't let infect let hate, infect your heart and then he is shot dead on Sunday.

866-3430 Woodbridge, Virginia Helen, welcome to the line of fire. I am one of the people over for a proliferation of country if we think that if the answer to our problem. I'll order a copy, but we really need to be is to control our motion to learn to let to communicate to interact to lift then and to debate and de-escalate all of these 10 situations because the airway is all you hear them out. He wants to vent everybody want to vent. Yet nobody comes up with the notion. My question was to the police department. Why are they ordered to shoot to kill. Why not shoot in the butt or to the tires out of the car or something like that. Why shoot to kill.

That has always bothered me, not in any of the particular case within the past but overall the gear so I think quickly and communicate it to have a day when they all meet to gather around talk I gave, and then to each other and I have something of a rapport rather than that of the tenant between the two. You know that the Communion believed to have a fence rather than there my friend believe that by friend and protector are such how it adversarial and it didn't be that way.

You just just jumping because it is a good break coming out number number one. I absolutely affirm what you say in terms of needs to come together and I believe in some communities that's no more than others, but obviously to the extent relationships can be built between the police and the communities and community leaders. Then they realize they were on the same side protector neighborhood return particular lies were on the same side as as for the shoot to kill. From what I understand, it's that in the heat of an exchange or distribute incapacitated. In other words, you can't. At that moment think I better aim here is better and there, but I got some of that may have an answer to that.

The second hour and I'll be sure to ask the question thank you Helen for wing and the website aspect around the Lord. I give many can do bring about change the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks much for joining us on the line of fire. Today this is Michael Brown is always with talking through the issues we are being as constructive as we can. We are listening to one another when the things that we've talked about today is there rhetoric that is provoking violence.

Is there rhetoric that is provoking people to dangerous actions. I'm looking at some reports, some news from Israel and from Jerusalem. News teams encouraged to aim for martyrdom on a roll schools posted in schools have on the roles that the students read certain grade levels or achievements this and sometimes city.

Sometimes he regards the accomplishments of their local store performance as the Palestinian Authority recites those who achieve more than 16 succeeded the martyrdom shot of the home and with students difficult tests for death is the martyr is the path to excellence and greatness and the path of those who know how to reach the great victory, said Wafaa. The official PA news agency encouragements to students was cited by the Palestinian leader watch as well as the Middle Eastern media research Institute. In other words, the words say hey what level can you achieve scholastically will of the community.

And they say some people achieve the level of martyrdom something to the level of martyrdom. Look at that.

In other words, killing Israelis. That is something that is to be commended.

This type of rhetoric. This type of bombardment of the senses with these foul images hailing someone that murders Israelis in cold blood.

This perpetuates the cycle of violence. And in this leads to more death and destruction. What ever our position on any subject is via the Israeli-Palestinian conflict be at the question of justice in America. Be it that the question of dealing with Muslims etc. what ever we say must be careful and calculated of otherwise we could easily lead to destructive situations we could lead to unstable people carry out acts of violence can lead to people who are perhaps more stable carry out acts of violence, 866340 we go to the phones that you Alicia. Welcome to the line of fire. Dr. Brown hello background hey you know I was so intent on making sure I pronounce your name right. I forgot to say you're calling from Newark, New Jersey. Thanks for the call. You African-American? I want online. Basically our community blank. I think you'll find that already rhetoric your cause can cause people to become violent.

It can indoctrinate you rhetoric that it started somewhere. It didn't start.

Rhetoric started in our community only for like what over police like when that in all black men are let in a population, but shooting thing that the police are on the police officer that heart with the family. Family, but I have a question I can fill the train and rejected by the Christian community at all and America between every deck. That's one of the motion I felt even more so than anger because I felt like I was finding protection we wanted We currently like we people with all that question.

You know to pray for even pay frankly how you know what Jimmy why are you targeting people but when were being targeted in the street.

My white Christian playing well that all basically overlooking at no different that their job is to protect� Over police that a lot of my friend Amanda great.

They believe because they're not right made up for making what angry where were feeding and trimming suitable believe the media explore reconciliation.

I believe the media had had another story that are playing out. I just don't want what you want I watch Fox News in a whole different story and I walking out in a halt if I believe the end of the day we fell ill on the multipart by the Christian community.

The American wheat we were quiet now where we come from people I had one that get over slavery. I will not get over slavery and the madcap you know and that Jim call lot you know it they don't learn they just don't know.

I don't care to know. But definitely injected that you not a Christian unity really really valid like their family African-American like the way were responding at African-American all angry � The really the company because the lab was responding Valley animal question here in America we come together because I have been happening black American that the founding of this country and Already Christian population just jump in.

Thank you so much for for sure your harden and and for your candor and for being clear of in your speech. So let me ask a couple questions for clarity.

Okay get to get to listen to this broadcast much I love I love to shop okay so did you feel that I have been insensitive or that I have failed. The African-American community in the way that that we discussed things on the air and tackle the issues to be totally honest with me.

I'm not okay now comment on your got it all right well okay I'm I'm glad to hear that cassette helps. I think of the type that was Flanagan's sister touching the truth. I think I got the unit sheet straight that that that gives me context. So in other words, if if you were seeing this being done more broadly in the body of Christ than you would feel this way you can. I that's that's very important that's very important to hear. So here's here's where maybe you can help your white brothers and sisters, okay, I was help me is hearing from so many African-American listeners who are law-abiding people, churchgoing recent godly families, hard-working, and they tell me about the injustices they've experienced, they tell you about how they're treated differently as black Americans a minute heard from so many. I remember it's only there for the tiniest fraction of people I call into one person calling could be speaking for $10,000. So that really helped deepen my understanding. Over the years to to tell me okay there something I never experienced that many find like Americans experience and so how much more you know is this something deeper in our psyche than we realize. What often happens on the white side is is this I'm speaking broad generalizations say that becoming a Michael Brown Ferguson last year and the whole hands up don't shoot for everything we understand that's not what happened. It wasn't hands up don't shoot, which is why even the Department of Justice of justice didn't indict him, but he becomes like that. The poster boy and always white Americans are best at what happened to the kid and rob the store and and and and and it wasn't the narrative so what has to happen is somehow because there are cases where the it's it's almost like hands up don't shoot.

You don't say it's there is no justification for the violence whatsoever those of the cases that we need to focus on big because what happens when happens is white Americans is asked to see it's it's an exaggeration. It's not accurate, and so on. Your thinking.

Okay, maybe that report is not accurate. But what about this and this and this and this might stay right there.

I will grab another second under the sun break but thanks for calling.

To be honest appreciate the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice aboard cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown joining us on the line of fire and thanks my faith listeners and or broadcast every single week 866-34-TRUTH so Lisa just this one.

One more point that out, to run whatever you can do to continue to communicate with bright white brothers and sisters to help us better understand your world, your experience, that's be patient okay because sometimes we just never grew up with it and never experienced it. I brought a racist home.

I did grow up in a racist community. You know I was in mixed schools and different things like that, at least at certain times and it just was was not on my radar in that I've administered in multicultural settings.

All my believing life that we have blind spots and we don't know if, and that's where she just lovingly and patiently remind us of the blind spots that's all the best, and then we would mention Pastor Saeed is a case of Peter's a pastor he's arrested in Iran.

It seemed kind of like absolutely clear and just a situation to the extent that you can find like Rosa Parks people know there was another young lady that refused to to to give up her seat in the bus.

In the early days of the civil rights movement and they were going to bring her forward, but it turned out that she was pregnant out of wedlock and the leader said if we put her forward. It's gonna bring reproach.

Rosa Parks was an older mature woman and good track record in all of that.

So when she became the poster woman of the movement. Everybody kind of rally around it and that that I think is the problem. Sometimes I'm just giving you an insight in terms of what you can get all in insensitive white reaction, justify anything but just giving you that insights that make sense because I noticed a number that's not true that's not accurate in what you have says okay have at this kid 13 years old, unarmed, interdepartment stairwell.

Why was he killed, ill, and that let him be the poster boy because I think we could rally around that, all the better. So let's work together. Amen we will make progress little but little by little and and and thanks for being so candid, I appreciated God bless you.

All right, 8663 Fortune set. Let's go to Charlotte, North Carolina Betty, welcome to the line of fire, a pocket cannot can I get you to try to speak right into the phone having a hard time hearing you and I will hear All loud and clear.

Okay, all the back Christian applicant graded market. Our member got at King all the things that went on it.

Okay our rate this way godly people every immoral thing that comes down the pipe we lack counseling really great that I come to the government politicians program for black people, which only that, but cripple the point can dictate doubt the hatred that they do Belknap get over that because a black guy, when you leave God out of your life and you got at your children's life like you have a hedonistic cutback but like people. Also you can't teach Adam murdering innocent people. Babies in the loan bank begun collecting respect life at the UK and break every immoral technical pain and think you going to requite Harvey. That's not what happened until America returns back to Jesus Christ. No hope for this country is only going to get more and how we can do is pray for each other and show each other.no that he got absolutely appreciate what you have to say and confirm that Jesus is the solution that the gospel principles of the solution and that we have to look at this in a holistic way it is. It's always troubled me that, saith if you look at the stability of the black American family before the days of the civil rights movement compared to after there was much more family solidity there was.

There were many fewer children out of wedlock, frankly, please go take a cook might affect away from your family. Give a program and thanks to the women. The hotels are Karen Oliphant and Matt in The rate of family and told them they would take over the hail and what came to the door but immoral pain and may out clean hardwood my correct spelling remedy did Meda mean man you didn't need to file the written all we needed out of thanks but make family and how he would have betrayed our children at Grab Bag Gellert pants down around her leg at rap thing. I'll bet negative stuff Infiltrated into these young people like that every parent at Baird back into the guy get your children into about believing church and try to figure live biblically. Thank you.grandpa that make me all thank you for speaking so loudly and clearly much appreciated by friends. Let me add a few comments to what what Betty just said this is this is what Rev. Jesse Peterson was saying last week on the year and if you listen to the shows Friday Monday Tuesday Wednesday so the week before last, and then that Friday, the Monday Tuesday Wednesday of last week. The great majority of the shows focused on race relations on issues of justice and reconciliation.

We had quite a few callers whose sentiments were very similar to Alisha's comments and sentiments that we had some that had a different perspective that focused on the breakdown of the family and every Jesse Peterson generated a lot of controversy. You can listen to my interviewees put up separately. We put the audio on YouTube. You can find it just like I asked Dr. Brown.org Cascade your brown.org and looking on latest videos. There, but but his point is that government programs as Betty just said Chuck black man out of the family, you're not there when government comes by this way, the mothers get certain payments and more prepared and so on, that that lies at the root of the problem and that then rather than practicing love and forgiveness for the very real injustices that have come against Blacks through history, including recent history, rather than practicing love and forgiveness. Other groups stir up hatred and anger and then rather than solving the problem.

It only gets worse. Check out my latest article is white America try to keep black America down is white America try to keep black America down. Check out my latest article it said asked Dr. Brown.org Cascade your brown.org latest article and you'll see that I address these questions had on as honestly as practically as I can and I also give 10 reasons why Christians should be the way racial reconciliation.

It's another recent article. They're all there on the website asked Dr. Brown.org hey on another practical note, have you ever wondered about how to hear the voice of God you wondered about how to be led by the Holy Spirit and to be guided by the Spirit working within you, and how that goes together with Scripture or dreams or prophecies or things like that one got a complete class a teaching series I did on this eight lectures 12 hours were virtually giving away this week, I mean remarkably low price digital download. In particular, go to the website. Check out this week's resource offer you really benefit by it you find it practical and rich in Scripture. So the tester could run. Ask your brown.org and you can download the special resource offers� With this very day. My bottom line go together have to learn to listen to one another. Humble yourself.

God, your brother and sister. The war on comps about the speak with an expert on the very subject's time for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown. We have been spending many hours on the line of fire broadcast talking about racial injustice, talking about reconciliation. Talk about what is real talk about what is perceived and now with more killing of cops. This time a black man killing two white police officers and a black police officer and then wounding three others.

One of them critically, questions come before us. What's really happening. What are the facts about police brutality where his dangerous rhetoric being used to just drop hostile emotions a few days back I was online researching some things and came across an interview that Heather McDonald did on the Rush Limbaugh show about a brand-new book of hers.

The war on comps, so I thought I'd of Rush was promoting it, it's probably pretty hot right now. I went to Amazon and lo and behold there was the number two bestseller on Amazon immediately downloaded it started to read it with real interest of Heather is the Thomas W Smith fellow at the Manhattan Institute and author of this new book the Juan cop. She's a frequent media guest on Fox and CNN and other national programs. Heather, I know your slant with interviews. Thanks for taking a few minutes to join us today. Now you have based your book on submaster research that's been done you're coming at this from an academic viewpoint. Did you have any clue that when your book came out, it would suddenly be one of the hot topics in America.

Well I currently am not particularly surprised that I'm deeply terrified by the cop shooting because they're just a more extreme version of what officers are getting on the streets in urban areas. Every day now, thanks to the lies of the black lives matter movement and assassination themselves that we had this summer are also not new outcroppings of black lives matter hatred because there were two cop that made it in December 2014 in New York City under the same hall of hatred spread out there so I know what what's happening now is just a logical conclusion to the narrative that's been put out there which is that black young black men are at lethal risk from termite officer.

We shouldn't be surprised if given the constant fomenting of race hatred and victim analogy by the academic establishment by the media establishment that people are turning out to violent and addictive, terrifying, terrifying moment for this country. We just got a minute before this first break that you speak of the lies, the black lives matter. Give me a for instance well. A larger percentage of white and Hispanic homicide victims are killed by police officers then then black homicide victims 12% of all white panic cool bye-bye homicide are killed like hot compared to 4% of black homicide victim two are killed by cops, so forget I have a anti-cop lives matter movement. It would make more sense to call it white panic lives matter. So you see land that even if black Americans can give anecdotal evidence from their own experience of reading that somehow things are being wrongly falsely inflamed and that that studies indicate that things be roaming falsely inflamed.

Absolutely and all, shooting tomorrow and have a negligible effect on the black death by homicide rate officers had saved tens of thousands of black lives is the last decade is black lives matter government is not I will be right back with Heather McDonald. The book the war on comps here on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown I'm speaking with Dr. Heather Institute, if not more, go to Manhattan � Institute.org\war on comps.

The new book national best-selling book the war on comps Heather right before the break. You said that the police have been the number one force in black lives matter for years, rather than demonizing them, or villain rising them that were vilifying them that we should recognize the lives there saving what happened in New York City under Willie Judy Ali and what's happened now under Mayor de Blasio 245 homicide in New York City in 2014 there were 333 that's a drop of 85% that virtually unprecedented unmatched in the country and what happened was when Mayor Giuliani with elected in 1994 policing was revolutionized nationally and competent great unprecedented mission which is to actually prevent crime rather than just respond to it and they became data driven held commanders accountable for crime and or jurisdictions and they asked officers to become proactive to go out and make stops at 1 AM on it of the known drug quantities that that's been hanging out hitching up his waistband as if he hasn't got get out of your car and ask a few questions rather than just drive on by and wait for somebody to get shot and and and this revolution that came to be known as the conduct at revolution spread nationally and and plaything across the country became data driven and accountable and we think the nation as a whole had a 50% crime drop it now at risk officers are backing off of proactive policing and crime is going up something that I've dubbed the Ferguson effect in New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio ran for mayor attacking the cops and and putting out live very similar to what Pres. Obama said which is bad.

Officers are a threat to his biracial son Dante Jablonski of this is preposterous Dante to Bellagio or any other young black men today featured pages a minute chance of being shot by a police officer. The risk to urban male today, overwhelmingly from other other black in Chicago, for example, as of July 9 this year. There've been a whopping 2090 people shot at the police Chicago police have shot nine people virtually all of them armed and resisting arrest at .4% of all shooting in Chicago that the people that are gunning down children at three-year-old boy shot on Father's Day is now paralyzed for life three children under the age of 11 shot on foot on Fourth of July there being there black kids in their being killed by other black and you're saying that with the proactive policing that really Giuliani helped implement that that saved many many many black lives in my spirit can do the math homicide remained there 1990s level and in the vast majority of people being victimized by homicide in New York City or black if we had had 2245 homicide each year without bringing it down yet 10,000 minority males would be dead today who are alive today thank the policing revolution that began in New York City and spread nationwide. What exactly did you mean by the Ferguson effect. Obviously, with reference to the hands up don't shoot a rhetoric that when out with the death of my namesake Michael Brown Ferguson last year.

What's the Ferguson effect, effective the combined phenomenon of object is backing off of proactive policing and crime going up in big cities last year with with large black population. Homicide increased anywhere from 54% in Washington DC to 90% in Cleveland.

This should be. I hope I hope Donald Trump makes this a major theme of his speech tonight. It went off. Back off of proactive policing black lives are lost that there are major studies that you based your your book on and there were some surprising facts that when covered in the studies. What about the likelihood of a black officer pulling the trigger on a black suspect as compared to white officer doing the same remarkably completely set white black lives matter of white bad white out there and like the thick Justice Department, no less, came out with a study in March 2015. Looking at the Philadelphia police officer Police Department and found that black and Hispanic officers were more likely than white officers to shoot an unarmed black person under the mistaken impression that that person had a gun. The acting director of the national Institute for Justice found that in the New York Police Department black ops adjuster 3.3 times more likely to use their weapons that shooting thing in light off. And last question your again approaching this from an academic viewpoint runs the care you made reference to be terrified that what you're seeing now that you got degrees from Yale and Stanford University Law school. You testified before U.S. House and Senate committees, but I imagine that your work is not just being responded to an academic way. Are you getting some visceral hateful responses because your narrative is going against the grain of of overhearing. I am absolutely denied by academic by the media, the black lives matter chapter and often doctrinaire term. I hadn't heard of before. But that would mean post my personal information on the web. My home address and home phone number with the message braces journalists don't get it past the free path so yeah no I this is this is a true war out there been people to support the copter are also in the crop tire did you know this might happen when you put the book out. Yeah, absolutely. I mean there's nothing more risky today than then questioning Dave to live in America remains a profoundly racist society that too many people with an investment in an racial victim analogy will Heather, especially in that light, I appreciate your courage in putting this out us on the been tremendously eye-opening and the more readers the more serious discussion gets, the better the best. Thanks much for joining us, Michael, thank you all right of friends listen to the specifics. Listen to the specifics without reacting. Look into the points that are raised and then come draw conclusions again.

The book the war on cops, the author, Heather MacDonald, so to just review some stats that you mention under Rudy Giuliani's leadership in New York City homicides dropped from 2245 year down to 333, a drop of 85%. It was by proactive policing that we had a black officer called the show. Oh, few days back and say that racial profiling is different than prejudicial profiling little words you give this example it's two in the morning you are in a heavy black drug area, a white guy comes in, pulls up in his car to in the morning gets out of the car runs up into apartment comes back down two minutes later. What are you thinking probably drug purchase. What else is out white guy doing there and out of an apartment tomorrow. This is the example, the officer gave you. Then the officer then goes up to that person skews me. What were you doing here all out work such a such a place. My colleague can committees get a hard drive, a flash drive. I needed for work so I just came by to pick up here. It is always an apartment 2C, etc. and okay all clear. Good.

So he said that would be proper profile vanilla with something look suspicious.

They; this person skin at this time in this neighborhood something looks suspicious so check it out prejudicial profiling, though, would be reason I would have you started mistreat the person you start immediately of find them guilty. You don't you don't even check the thing out and and you are looking at them through biased eyes that would be different. That would be different. I've been to Israel.

Many times, and especially when you fly L all there in question. You and suddenly you feel uncomfortable and there is the probe you and your is going for trip Hilliard go there with Seif friends or family or gum for me. I'm going there to speak to congregations or something. Next thing I mean there will and and and it's true. If my skin was a certain color folic more Arab and if I had a certain accent and if they found the slightest thing in my story, they were comfortable with them next thing that might be taken my luggage report literally taking it apart and it saves lives so is there right way to do things in a wrong way to do things and Heather MacDonald has all this data, you might say hey she has data but I am a life experience when you tell them a life experience. I get treated differently because of life.

So the discussion continues the discussion continues.

But if by effective policing homicides cut down most of those homicides would been against black Americans have been saved by five for the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown, the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown tried to make some statements on their Facebook page that accused the Israeli government of somehow being in cahoots with what's going on with regards to the conversation about racial injustice in America with police brutality in the African-American community and I'm just like thinking to myself like, wait a minute.

SGP, less the real the majority of people in your organization. Where are Eric's SQL day Arabs still engaged in the African slave trade that is Chloe Simone the very she's a pro-Israel political activist Zionist and African-American. She is a Robert L.

Bartley fell at the Wall Street journal and she's commenting on some post from the students for Justice in Palestine ready for this. I ready. This is posted on Facebook July 7 the past 48 hours of the two black men have been lynched by the police. The total number black people lynched by cops in 2016. Now totals 136 must remember that many US police departments train with the Israeli Defense forces. The same forces behind the genocide of black people in America are behind the genocide of Palestinians. With this means that postings Mustang with her black comrades. We must struggle for the liberation. It is as important as our own Sterlings as important as Ali Del Upshaw, Palestinian liberation, black liberation go together, we must recognize this and commit to building for talk.

Talk about a statement that is riddled with errors from beginning to end and appreciate Chloe voluntary, pointing out that there Arabs still engaging in slave trade from Africa.

Yet there are Muslim countries that quite openly practice slavery and slavery of of Africans quite openly in so II appreciate her taking exception to that. But that to refer to someone being lynched.

When you have a battle someone resisting arrest allegedly going for a gun and being shot in the weather.

That's the facts are not God knows the details to credit some "lynched and then to speak of the genocide of black people. There's no genocide black people except in the womb, except in the womb. That's where this genocide taking place and that's were all Americans need to stand up together and say let us help stop this genocide. It is satanic assault on the African-American community and there's no genocide of Palestinians. Palestinians who don't want to murder Israelis are thriving Palestinians who don't want to murder Israelis have more freedoms than anybody else in the Middle East. They've grown from 200,000 to 1.5 million in Israel they are in the parliament Israeli Knesset date.

Serve on the Israeli Supreme Court.

They have levels of position and influence throughout the country right let's let's listen to another comment from Chloe will grab click number 10 as she continues to interact with some of these statements you are seeing excellent Democrat and other minority groups. You understand that aftermarket history is such that when we marched we preached we spoke, we spoke with the language I was informed and cultivated in the Jewish community.

We spoke with the language and rhetoric that was very much rooted in Jewish texts and in Jewish identity and social you to like charter right some on your Facebook page and try to like inject this this racial animosity is ironic.

Number one because you know anything about this in the times you know the role that Israel is an idea is a symbol slave not only as a collective. But specifically, in the speeches but moreover like Yahoo are the same people whose people are trafficking slaves in the art world today. Great points and try to get one more clip and the city will describe the click number 11 Joey this is great stuff that's kind of critical and like you know ironic that you think the yuck yellow stuff and write stuff that makes no sense whatsoever that is disrespectful, my people's history that is disrespectful of the legacy that we have and at the same time still belong to a people who are enslaving people just like legitimately.

There are Ethiopian Israelis in Gaza today that are still held by Hamas like when you have found when you outline like you about that or are know that that's that doesn't really fit into their whole narrative of the stuff in your paradigm of course not, because to admit that the people you love. Terrorist organizations that you like are all buddy buddy in your life. Those same clinical providers are literally engaging in the African slavery today and you want to exploit my people's history you want to exploit Jewish people's history and you want to twisted and turn it into something that you can use for your own clinical no ma'am not happen will done. Chloe is refuting the rhetoric, the nonsensical rhetoric of students for Justice in Palestine where there is injustice, let's address it, but for them to sale were standing with black Americans, then basically your saying that black Americans calling for justice on a par with Hamas try to kill Israelis of the kind of equation that some black leaders want those who understand with the rhetoric saying and then, yes, let's point out the slave trade that goes on imports, the Muslim world to this day, most often exploiting Africans our friends. As always, our goal is to be constructive as always, our goal is to inform and equip if I ever say anything that makes you uncomfortable, do the same thing as I do, when you say something that makes me uncomfortable. Ask yourself as I ask myself is true. Could it be that with this person saying is accurate and before you dismiss something out of hand. Often it's good to to see how much truth there is much accurate information there is and what the other person like me saying maybe someone says to me hey Mike have you seen this verse in the Bible and been studying at the last year and I've studied it intensely in the original languages and and and I believe has some insights in the time of the insights I merely saved someone says wait. Have I even studied it for a minute. Maybe if they stated a free year. They're seeing something I'm not seeing because I only studied it for a minute maybe your life experiences such that you can talk to me with some authority or vice versa. So this will your life. I would commit to listen to each other learn from each other grow together some good fight. We've got a lot more. Stay with us.

It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown, one of the things you have done from the stack of the controversy. NetSuite done for years before the which means we will wade into uncomfortable waters wade into difficult situations wade into things that could potentially offend, but doing a way that glorifies the Lord this Hon. that speaks the truth in love, and that listens as well as speaks by God's grace we build trust with our listeners by God's grace we have had lots of fruitful discussions that a been tremendously helpful and edifying and we had many guests on to talk about many different issues from many different perspectives. People I agree with every word.

People I didn't agree with the Civil War people somewhere between and that's part of the discussion. Part of what we do here on the broadcast I am never trying to provoke things for the purpose of listener ratings God for bid. I am never trying to do something on the air. This can be sensationalistic just to get people to listen. That's immature.

That's caramel will raise issues and if it's a controversial issue more people listen. Great. I believe we have something to say but the goal is to be constructive. The goal is to advance understanding.

I got a call from an African-American woman old less than an hour ago. Earlier on the broadcast. This is Michael Brown the number to call to get into discussion today 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884 and she was African-American woman from New Jersey and she felt like the body of Christ has let down the African-American community. She felt that there is not that understanding is not in empathy there's not been a stand together for justice and then I asked her did she feel that way about me in the broadcast.

He said no that's why still listen.

That's why interact with your Facebook posts so that was helpful for me to hear because if she said the same thing to me that without that would trouble me, because I believe before the Lord. We've sought to address difficult divisive issues with compassion with understanding and to feel the pain and the frustration of of the body across the board and that we learn from each other listen to each other.

That was really helpful for me to hear. At the same time.

I understand that there are things we can say on the air that is no way you're always going to agree with me almost agree with you. So the question is, is, as we have more bloodshed now and is we we see the blinding power of hatred here. You have a black man who murders three people and wounded three others, one critically, and of the three police officers that he kills two are white and one is black is a picture we have on Facebook of the. The black cop with his little baby boy to to show the blinding power of hatred. We're in a very volatile situation here in America and were committed to continuing to address the issues here in the line of fire to do so in a way that brings light and not just heat and to do so in a way that is responsible so that what we cultivate is an attitude of greater love towards God and a greater love towards our neighbor a few days ago we had on the broadcast Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson earlier in that same broadcast we had on Janet points African-American minister and she wants to talk about the lack of understanding and much of the white church to the struggles of black Americans had Prof. George Yancey on African-American professor talk about transcending racial barriers in River Jesse Lee Peterson on who basically said that the whole of the of racism is a myth which is a controversial statement, but I believe understand what he saying behind it and then said that black lives matter is worse for the black community than the Ku Klux Klan. Obviously this was upsetting to some, and I slept really back on, so my listeners can interact with you for a whole hour and is willing to do it but I got an interesting call came into our voicemail or office and I sit down on the play.

This play this for everybody to hear that we can interact together stay to call her mouth file line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH dear again is Dr. Michael Brown and Ashley had my sister reach out to them and they had a great chat so this is not from a critic of the radio show.

This is from a friend of the radio show, but he was very unhappy with my guest, Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson listen to what he had to say. Inflammatory and warm throughout our absolute humor radio, though I don't know if you are near inflammatory are listed below. Dr. mouth shut them off.

Nobody agrees with you. No black person, the great Taconic, Beaumont, 100 people waited for the doctor show the everyone would be great if you have, no one got video data you give accurate not supported any feelings about that back in what it Dr. Brown's biggest job. The question MA dark brown got it on the children.

He's an idiot. Nobody like you know if you return parameter revenues more for you.

All express computer black people don't have very thick warm dark brown. Thank you. So what I so appreciate someone taking the time to call in and to share that so pictures just want to discuss with you. I choose I want to discuss with you number one Jesse Peterson is not Dr. he's is reverent.

Number two.

He's been on media quite frequently. He had been on the Kelly files with Megan Kelly the night before. As part of a panel discussing black lives matter and so he's is well known in that respect. Now interestingly interestingly we got the phones lit up at full eyes lit up and I was only able to get to one call one conversation with one caller and we were at a time. That's why said to Rev. Peterson. Let's do this again, for the purpose of my call is being able interact with you over the course of an hour switch. We just have to set that up make sure that we retirement appropriately in terms of their times. One can be best to do in times not just do it. Depending on what's happening in the world is but hopefully we can do that within the next few weeks begin the purposes that your listeners can weigh in with him directly. There's no question that the way he says certain things can be inflammatory. There's no question that his goal. I don't know. I do know his messages that the Al Sharpton's and the Jesse Jackson's of this world have made the situation. Black America worse that when you play into victimhood.

And when you provoke anger that you don't solve the problems that the solution to the problems is not the welfare system and not to take the black man out of the family and then incentivize the families to not have the male presence there, so that there can be more money coming in.

Rather, the solution is offer love and forgiveness towards white Americans that have sinned against black Americans be in slavery. Segregation the injustices since then to offer love and forgiveness to rebuild the family to mentor young black men to help them be leaders of their families and communities which is a major thing that he engages in and to not fall into an entitlement mentality or a victim mentality that would be what he argues for an in his book the antidote he really lay set out well.

In other words, what he presents as the solution is really an excellent Christ centered solution and one that kills the flesh and one that causes people to step into something higher and better now.

I again I understand how statements he made could could sound incendiary to be incendiary or could be inflammatory and will have to ask him. Does he say it for that purpose, or does he say because he's convinced it's accurate. Now there are plenty of listeners who agree with.

I click that I just played from a caller plenty of listeners would agree wholeheartedly and see it where you dig this guy off and he doesn't speak for anybody I know there are others, though I can think of a call just earlier this broadcast about almost an hour ago from an older black woman named Betty in Charlotte and she was basically pointing finger at those trying to stir up anger and saying the whole problem is and broken homes and the homes of been broken because of the welfare system and getting the man on the sheet repeated almost verbatim without hearing it.

She repeated almost verbatim what Jesse Peterson said got another call fight remember from Denise in Houston and see another African-American college, he said, look what Anna says I can be popular by this was maybe two weeks before or since, is made. A week before Jesse Peterson. She said the F in the ring that was talk about is the breakdown of the family and that she's we have to rebuild our families and then things will change in society around us. Now I just wrote an article you can read it by going the website asked her to Brown.org a SKU or brown.org and read my latest article to white Americans want to keep black Americans down and my conclusion is that in a large-scale societal way. I don't believe that's the sentiment or desire a large-scale societal societal intentional way and in generations past under segregation, slavery, and perhaps in some parts of America today, there are those certainly many individuals that want to keep black Americans down. But is that a national sentiment and national desire something that corporate America desires corporate white America. I personally say absolutely no say will hang on. We look at other minorities like Jews listen to percent of the population there was discrimination against Jews in the past in America.

There, there was Harvard University try to keep accordance with number Jews would be down the president want to do that was was overruled. There has been there or there were beaches would say no colored snow Jews, things like that.

There has been discrimination and yet Jews have an end and then the terrible suffering and in Europe the Holocaust sort of two thirds of European Jews and yet Jewish Americans have overcome discrimination opposition risen to the top in every area of American society. Same with the Asian Americans think of the mistreatment of Japanese during World War II here in America and the prejudices that would arise against other Asian Americans. In particular, Japanese, and yet they've overcome it with the top and in so many ways and then we had callers who were recent immigrants from Africa as one caller called himself a AAA African African-American of Tanzania and Kenya. They come over to America and they fared much better. They have done better. Educationally they have done better vocational and they said all we are. Our situation is very different from our black brothers that have been here three generations. So what is it then that's keeping black Americans down that have been there through the generations. Why say the average income for black American family. Maybe like one third of the average income of a Jewish family or Hindu family there that the top of the list in America. Why is that how can it be to me it's the system. It is the welfare system and this entitlement victimhood mentality that's been breed it saying it's up to the government to fix things for you and this welfare system that is contributed directly to the breakdown of the American family because the black American family was much stronger, much more stable in the days before civil rights then after that possibly be. It should be the opposite. Yeah, but I believe the policies kept the people down that with the policies the.

The goal of the policies to keep black Americans down. Some say yes, some say that that the policies of Lyndon Baines Johnson others that that the civil that the welfare packages and things like that that that was another way, and overt attempt to keep black Americans out on a look at it that way I look at is a misguided attempt to repent of the sins of segregation and all the injustices that were taking place so it's systemic but it's not systemic in terms of promoting people's hearts or intentional policies.

It systemic as far as faulty systems. In any case, these are my perspective these discussions, we need to continue to have, but at this point. With so many Americans grieving was so much pain and upheaval. We need to come together.

We need to renounce all rhetoric on all sides that leads to hatred, anger, or God forbid violence and need to forward is the body of Christ leading the way and calls justice and calls for racial reconciliation will be right back.

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Speaking of all lives matter. I tweeted out yesterday I tweeted out yesterday. We find the exact quote with policeman being gunned down in the streets. Don't tell me it's racist to say all lives matter. There is a time to say certain things without question when when the black community is is in pain and crying out and saying it feels like our lives don't matter, it's feels like the nation doesn't care if he feels like our lives can just be trashed and no one cares at all to sit well at all lives matter know that would be insensitive, that would be denigrating when you now have cops laying there dead in the streets killed in cold blood ambushed when you have that it's I believe important to shout out together. In that context all lives matter in a concerted way to stand together for justice for all. That's what I mean by it.

Now I I just tweeted out a pole earlier.

Let's see, it's maybe an hour ago, our behalf, in light of the recent killing of cops is racially insensitive to sterilize matter of 87% say no. 13% say yes but demographically my twitter feed or demographically. If we look at black Americans compared to the rest of the population could be about 13% so what does this. I wondered some of you. I don't know in the voting whose voting which way if overwhelmingly white, said not insensitive, flaccid, yes, insensitive that that would be very interesting. That would be insightful if that was not the case and Blacks overwhelmingly said no. In this case it's it's not racially insensitive to say all lives matter and they were a good part of the 87%. That would be enlightening as well and I put these questions out to try to understand where people are coming from and to try to get into the hearts and minds of those whose background may be different than mine. 866-34-TRUTH we go to Brooklyn, New York Jeremiah, welcome to the line of fire. Dr. Brown, I appreciate your program for you really got you, you have one thing to have a problem with this issue. I'll probably go this route. I was born in East New York in the ghetto. My mother always used to say number because you're born in the ghetto but you have to have the mentality of the ghetto. My question. Every time a wife cop has a situation with a black person and now nothing in a bad way, but they always use the word is a racist issue, not a black African-American friend that you got to play with it.

You have a lot of people that were in the time of slavery that went through that situation. African-American group today was not there back in slavery time.

But even though that they will endear distal screen is a racist issue now my thing is my my number person to a black mother when her child is in the stroller and she really got shot by African-American. All my love of person got beat up in the street of New York by two African-Americans like they screen the same way with that issue as when a cop suits a black person in general what your own ethnicity non-Hispanic Puerto Rican guy that's honest people kind shot and when we get persecuted or anything.

Puerto Rican people think all you know is a racist Puerto Rican thing, but when it comes back African-American. I thought that the court named David Manning from how he speaks on people in Brooklyn be put up a statue of computer you just to ration yet. Jeremiah just to say this, and I haven't heard that the pastor spoke just a couple things many Americans of all color have raised the same issue I've had black callers on my show raise the same issue. Where's the outrage in our community. When a three-year-old child gets shot. I guess I know you're talking about, you know, gang violence, and there's a three-year-old paralyzed for life. Where's the outrage in some of said look were upset about that but were dealing with that internally. It's when we feel something is happening to us in the system is failing us that we raise our voices so I understand that perspective. The key thing is where or where the majority of lies being taken where the greatest number of casualties and what's interesting is that studies indicate that it's 3.3 times more likely for a black cop to shoot a black suspect as it is for a white cop to shoot a black suspect. So what I think we have to do. Jeremiah is do our best to get all the facts on the table here one another out just as your calling passionately and explaining things to hear one another out and to see okay where is there race baiting taking place on any side, where is there a divisive speech taking place on any side where it is there is this mentality of victimhood being cultivated where his anger being stirred to the point of violence on any side. Let's all work together against that.

Let's commit where there is injustice will address it and where there is misunderstanding will bring clarification and were committed to get the truth out no matter what with people like it or not he, Jeremiah, thanks for calling and I do appreciate it friends. Make sure you take advantage of the articles on the website.

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