The Drive with Josh Graham - Roy Williams Lines

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Now back to the drive with Josh Graham. Today's show is being broadcast live to the Kickback Jacks on New Garden Road in Greenborough. Drop by and say hello if you'd like. We'd love to see you. Ahead of tomorrow's NBA draft, Roy Williams met with local media and conducted what I believe to be one of the most entertaining press conferences I've heard lately.

I was listening to it. yesterday and thought Alright, let's grab one or two of these clips. and replay it the most interesting stuff. But He spoke for about 30 minutes and Coach Williams just kept giving us golden nuggets. Funny stuff.

Enlightening stuff. Entertaining stories. He loves telling stories and being the chief entertainer. It's a stark contrast from other coaches we deal with. Coach K, coming from Army and his background, when he's talking to us, He's very sharp and Very particular.

Every single word has to be correct. It's almost like he's going to war when he's meeting with reporters. Roy Williams, it's like you're speaking with your cool grandpa, telling you awesome stories, and not caring what paint he's throwing against the wall. He's just trying to figure out what's going to stick.

So rather than pulling one or two of his best clips, here's a full montage of the funny things Roy Williams had to say yesterday.

So there's, what, 48 million kids on the transfer portal. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of third graders. I saw his names on the transfer portal.

So it's the world we live in. Come on, guys, you figure that out and tell me what the hell is going on.

So, no, I'm not in favor of any of that kind of crap. You guys are all intelligent.

Okay, that'd be like putting us in charge of our nuclear arms, because we don't know what the crap we're doing. Tattoos, I hate them. You know, Not think it looked bad on me, so that's the reason I don't have them. But I tell them why they're here as a student for us. Try not to get any more while you're here and you're on your own afterwards and before.

I can't do anything about that. But Dion's a special kid. I didn't, I think I would have remembered that sucker if I'd seen that before, so no, I haven't seen that one. You know, if you're the leading score in the history of North Carolina High School basketball, you're pretty good. You know, you don't have to be a nuclear physicist to figure that out.

Cam can shoot that basketball. In case you guys don't know, that thing that hangs from the ceiling or hang on the wall is called a scoreboard. It's not a draw charge board, it's not a dive on the floor, it's called a scoreboard. And Golden State could have used Cam. Because I've never seen a pro game where they play a box in one.

Well, he just got here Sunday.

So I said, Mondo, how you doing? He said, good coach, how you doing? And I said, all right, I'll see you. I'm at a loss for words. Do we have a non-conference schedule that's been released?

You're a golfing.

Okay, I was down in Pinehurst raising $1.5 million, so it was good. And I assure you, I don't have as much time as you do. Koozi, award, watch, list, list, watch, whatever the hell it's. This is June. You know, so no, that young man doesn't need me to stand up for him, or who made out that list, his name will be on the list.

I love Roy Williams. Asking reporters, what the hell is going on? This is what it would sound like. When Roy If Roy walked in when his kids were schooling. School age walked into their room to find that they snuck like a Playboy magazine underneath their bed or something.

If we have that sound. Come on, guys, you figure that out and tell me what the hell is going on.

So, no, I'm not in favor of any of that kind of crap. That's exactly what it would be, right? I mean, that's the same tone that he has here. Like, you're arguing with your sister. You and your sister are going at it, or you and your brother, and you're fighting who gets the T V for the next thirty minutes.

Come on guys, you figure that out and tell me what the hell is going on.

So no, I'm not in favor of any of that kind of crap. Yeah. No, we're not watching another episode of Fairly Odd Parents or whatever the kids' show is now. Is that show still in the air? I believe so.

I wish we had the younger intern who could help me out here. You got kids, you can reference that. The other thing here. from Coach Williams. Him just it's the most subtle of humble brags.

He doesn't know about a nonconference schedule, and he uses the opportunity to tell us why very casually in a weird flex kind of way. I'm at a loss for words. Do we have a non-conference schedule that's been released? You were golfing.

Okay. I was down in Pinehurst raising $1.5 million. Wow. What were you doing? Oh, you know about the non-conference schedule?

What were you doing? Telling the news, writing newspaper articles. I'll tell you what I was doing, raising money. For charitable reasons, 1.5 million specifically, in case you didn't have heard. Man, that's a big number.

I want to flex that, Roy. Oh, Roy. Yeah, that's what he's doing there. Also, paying homage to John Ropstein, the annoying college basketball reporter for CBS. I don't think he specifically was doing this, so don't come at Roy Williams for that.

But it's the CBS report, CBS sports reporter, John Ropstein. He's known to do this is March the entire month of March, and sometimes not even in the month of March. Roy Williams reminding us what month it is. This is June. That's what it is.

I look at the T V. I see. Nasir Little talking to ESPN commentators ahead of the draft, getting us excited for tomorrow night. This is Jean. Yeah, the World Cup's going on.

College World Series. Trying to root for Mike Martin, who's trying to make a run. This is June. Telling us nothing but facts. Me getting a tweet just now from Wake Forest head basketball coach Danny Manning saying that he's excited to be on the show tomorrow.

Thank you. That's great. This is June. Yeah. Usually the time Where coaches have time for us radio folk.

This is June. On Twitter at SportsHub Triad, if you want to reach out to us that way. Danny Manning will be on this show tomorrow. Look forward to catching up. with Coach Manning.

Obviously.

Somebody who played in the league quite a bit, but on top of that, coached against many of the players who were going to have their names called in the lottery. Roy Williams. He he's just A coach who knows he's established as a Hall of Famer. And You're not going to come after him the way. You would come after a coach who hasn't quite earned what Coach Williams has earned.

So he can sit there comfortably and not worry about: oh, is this going to come off right? Is this the right thing to say? I wish more people took his approach because usually coaches are starched, they're boring, they're cliché, they're not going to give you much. NFL quarterbacks are that way. Most of the stars in that sport are that way.

NBA basketball, it's a little bit different, but usually you don't know the names of most of the coaches in that sport. College basketball is all about the coaches. And a lot of the more established ones. Feel free to be loose. Coach K, while he does have a different approach than Roy, he's interested in other things than basketball.

I heard him last night talking to League Commissioner Adam Silver on his radio show, NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, who was talking about how the NBA is run like a business. Coach K interjects. Yeah, so is college basketball, to the point where Silver had to awkwardly recant and say, uh No comment on that. No comment on that piece there. Seeing the headlines the next day.

NBA Commissioner Adam Silver agrees with Coach K that college basketball operates like a business. I'm sure Mark Immert would be a big fan of that news coming out. Can we talk here? Can we talk here? Let's talk about this.

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Now back to the drive with Josh Graham. We're broadcasting live from the Kickback Jacks, New Garden Road location in Greensboro. Hayes Burmar of Sports Channel 8 kind enough to join us now. One of my favorites to talk to on all things that I think are significant to the North Carolina sports scene. But right now, Hayes, since I'm broadcasting to a bunch of people, and a handful of which have no idea what's happening right now in the way of a sports show and don't know who I am, say something nice, if you will, about me.

Josh Gran, how are you doing, sir? You are the best redhead, bespectacled sports host that North Carolina currently has. How about that? Wow, wow. See, there are some people who would say I'm not redheaded.

But then others, I mean, is Darren Vott is Darren Vott a redhead or is he strictly Brunette? Who who is denying the laws of nature and trying to claim that you are not a redhead? Uh you you you were just talking to him. Desmond Johnson doesn't believe I'm a redhead.

Well, he cuts it so short, it's like it doesn't really look red. Like, maybe if you grow it out or something, I I don't know. I don't see red when I look at your hair.

Alright, now it's pretty rare.

Now I've seen old pictures. He's got the redhead, the whole persona going to him. He's a redhead, Desmond. Come on. Oh, wait, dude.

Hayes, have you ever looked at Josh's driver's license before? No, I tried not to. Unfortunately, I have not.

Okay, to tell the story very quickly, and this is actually relevant to what we want to talk to Hayes about. Earlier in the week, I got denied a beer at an establishment I don't care to name because my face was smudged on my ID, so much so they didn't believe I was a, I guess, a 21-year-old man. Mm-hmm.

Okay. Wow. But uh That's tough going. But, you know, do you not have some swinging lady with you that made it easy to wink at the bouncer so you guys could get it? Here's the thing: I actually did, to be completely honest, still not buying it.

And the person sitting next to me did the joke where they said, oh, man, they didn't ID me. It should make you feel young to get ID'd. I got that joke before I got denied the beer. What is the threshold of where you go from being offended that they're asking for your ID to honored? Is it like.

Thirty four or something like that? Like at you know, somewhere around thirty three, if there's you know, they're still asking for your ID, you're like, Come on, man. But then when once you hit like thirty five, you're like, Oh, thanks. They're looking for my ID. That's awesome.

We gotta figure out what that age is. The ID. Tweet the show. Tweet the show at Sports Hub Triad if you have an answer to that. Were you just playing the piano?

Did I hear that correctly? Yeah, you know, I didn't want to do it when uh w when when I found out you were on remote, but I was trying to play the song you were coming into. Uh It's really good.

Something like that, right? Yeah, not the same Ben Foles. Pretty good stuff. North Carolina flavor here. But the reason why that last story is relevant to what I want to talk to you about is we just heard from Dave Doran, who was a little passive-aggressive, talking about North Carolina seemingly finally passing legislation that would allow for Carter Finlay Stadium to sell alcohol, beer, and wine at NC State football games and the same at Keenan Stadium and at public universities across the state of North Carolina.

My question to you, will alcohol being sold at these games significantly affect how many people are in the stands? I don't think a ton. It'll definitely significantly increase the number of comments we get.

Sole diet. It'll be tough to predict what it does to the stands. I mean, you know, there'll be some NC State fans where if they truly not only sell alcohol, but take away their pass outs. They'll claim that they're going to protest and not buy season tickets. But as you know from doing radio, a lot of times sports fans who make the claim, I won't watch this game.

I won't buy tickets because something, something happened, be it political, be it a coach they hired or fired they didn't like. But ultimately, you know, people end up buying tickets and watching games for things different than the things that they claim, you know?

So it's kind of tough to discern. There's going to be a lot of squawking on either side about what they should do and how whatever they decide to do will affect. I'm even looking forward to, you know, if Roy Cooper dares to either pass or veto this, are people going to start claiming that, you know, because he's a Carolina guy, he's trying to hurt passouts or he's trying to help Carolina. You know, I don't, I can't see what the angle would be, but leave it to sports fans to always find, you know, the rival having some angle on your business.

So it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I do think, you know, I think Doran's got a legitimate gripe. He didn't grow up here in North Carolina State. His only interest is trying to see giving his team the best. Chance of winning, so yes, he wants the fans in there, but at the same time, Fans are fans.

They're there for the experience. Like, yes, they'd like to see the team win the most. But uh again, ultimately Much like we were saying before, fans would vote, yes, my number one priority is for the team to win the most. But when it comes down to it, that's not really their priority. They want to enjoy themselves.

They would not give up tailgating, even if it meant an undefeated season for NC State. And that's true for all fan bases, not just NC State.

So it'll be interesting to see how it plays out at each of these schools. If they. If and where they add alcohol sales and if they do eliminate pass outs or try some sort of like Phasing out or doing it for some games. I'm not sure exactly how they'll do it. Follow Hayes on Twitter at DHPIV, Hayes Permar, and Sports Channel 8 with us here.

I think you're the perfect person to answer this question. What school does this news affect the most? What school does I'm sorry, repeat that question? What school does this legislation affect the most? Hmm.

Well, it's definitely NC State because of the tailgate culture. You know, um there there is an element at at UNC and NC State, and I'm and you probably know better what they do at ECU. Does ECU have uh I'm sure they have like a a private booster area where they do have alcohol sales inside the stadium. They do, they do. But the tailgate scene in Greenville, much like NC State, pretty rowdy.

And it just seems fitting that the first game of the year, ECU's playing at NC State. I I understand where universities have been using the the alcohol sales as like leverage to get people to donate to a certain level, then you could be sitting in the right place or whatever. But it does seem a little bit like you're separating the haves from the have-nots. I mean, I credit Wake Forest. I'm sure that they've had private alcohol, but they were one one of the first to at least try to get beer sales.

First it was like a limited section and now I think they have it in more places. But it it it starts to feel a little bit like, oh, you know, Again, the haves and the have-nots. These people can drink alcohol, and for everybody else, you just got to bring your own and deal with it once you get inside the stadium.

So in that sense, I'm probably pro put alcohol in the stadiums. Let the fans who are disgruntled about if they end pass outs, deal with it, and we'll see how it shakes out. But definitely all eyes are going to be on NC State for what they do. And you can already tell the B writers for NC State are going to spend more time talking about it because it is. It's a bigger issue.

Tailgating is bigger there than almost anywhere in the state, with ECU probably being in the close second and App State up there. And, you know, UNC will see. It should be a different scene with Mac Brown. But traditionally speaking, the biggest. Tailgate at any university in the state, I think, is NC State.

So that's the one we'll be talking about the most, especially when they combine it with the highest level of profile opponents. Hayes Permar from Sports Channel 8 with us. Another headline that's relevant to the sports scene here in North Carolina. The owner of the North Carolina professional soccer team, North Carolina FC, is set to announce, according to reports, a multi-year drive to build a multi-use soccer facility in hopes of landing a major league soccer franchise. It looks like it's going to be a 20,000-seat stadium in downtown Raleigh, a project that's set to cost $1.9 billion.

Here's what I'm interested in. How much are people in Raleigh behind this project and the pursuits of this owner? It comes at an interesting time, Josh Graham. And I am, for the purposes of this topic, I am actually the man on the scene for you because as I stand in my house just south of, or I'm standing in my front yard now because my new puppy is going to the bathroom, just south of downtown Raleigh, they are planning to build this new stadium almost literally. People overuse literally, so I won't say literally, Josh Graham.

Almost literally, they are building the stadium in my backyard of my current residence. It is right off the beltline. Most people, even if you don't live in Raleigh, Triad folks will know if you're coming off 40 or 440 into downtown Raleigh from that south side and you come up sort of over a hill and then it curves down and you're looking at the shimmer wall and the buildings and Red Hat Amphitheater. When you pass from 40 up to that point where you're seeing that view, almost everything that you pass. is is going to become soccer stadium slash downtown entertainment center.

Now there's a couple of interesting pivots they've made on this, and I haven't quite answered your question, but I'm going to. One is that Steve Malick, the owner of you know, bought the Carolina Rail Hawks, Bought the courage, it brought him down, made him the North Carolina Courage, rebranded into NCFC, made a strong push for MLS. And one of the big things he said, he sort of read which way the wind was blowing and said, we're not using public funds to build a new stadium. I've got the money. I'll fund it because that was the way the things were going.

In this time, people don't want to be spending tax dollars on stadiums, especially for billionaires.

So he said, we're not using it. But now he's teamed up with big-time Rally developer John Kane, who is very used to making deals with the government about how to get his buildings made. I think Kane got in Malik's ear and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy, buddy. If there's a, you know, if there's government funds that could be used, there's no reason for us not to tap into these.

So they are. They're going to be applying for actually Wake County, more than Raleigh itself or North Carolina. Wake County is one of the best government organizations to work with and funding different programs, be they arts, museums, or whatever.

So the Carolina Hurricanes and PNC Arena are going to be looking for some funds from the county, and Malik and Kane are going to be looking for.

Some fun.

Now, to your question of the reaction, I do think that soccer is strong here. I do think that merely moving the location from Cary, an area that people don't really go to, it doesn't really have good. A good commute and good parking already just by moving it to downtown Raleigh, where things are kind of popping off right now. I think the soccer community will get behind it.

However, it does come, and it is still an interesting time politically where not only is it sort of a poison pill to be taking a lot of government funds, it's a poison pill to be using up a lot of lands at a time where people want affordable housing. And I know that your sports. Radio listeners aren't that interested in hearing about affordable housing, but when the New York Times is writing about Charlotte and Raleigh and other cities around North Carolina, it's going to be an issue and it's going to be something that people use as a means to talk down the state.

So expect that to be the pushback of, wait, we're hearing about how there's so much need for land to build more places to live because people want to come to these great cities that North Carolina has. How are we just going to tear up?

Well, really, right now, is, I mean, it's just south of DeJash Graham, and in two hours, there'll be 20 deer running through it. I mean, it's surprising to some people that are there to be in this big old field just south of downtown Raleigh. But for the most part, downtown Raleigh's been growing sort of more towards the north end and a little bit east and west. And this is the first big project that's going to be south.

So it'll be interesting, and there'll be a lot of things outside of sports that there'll be the pushback. But the sports side alone, I think people will be embracing of like trying to bring soccer up. It's also an interesting pivot, and I know this is a super long answer to your question. I don't want to be one of those guys. Very long.

You and Desmond Dalton don't joke off air like, oh man, Purbar, we can't ask that guy five questions. He's going too long in his answers. But whereas initially Steve Malik was, you know, guns blazing all about MLS, he has backed off that language and tried to make it more of, hey, we're going to have a great soccer club whether we get MLS or not. And I find that to be an interesting shift. I kind of wish he would keep his foot on the gas.

But maybe he fears that he's not going to get that MLS team, that he doesn't want to Lose momentum for soccer just because it isn't MLS soccer.

So it may be a ways off if it ever is going to develop into MLS soccer.

So it'll be interesting to see how much fans are willing to invest in something that isn't at the top level of the sport. That'll be something to watch for sports fans. While he is unforgivably long-winded, Hayes Permar has very good information there, and you can follow him on Twitter at DHPIV. It's good to hear from you, Hayes. I'm sure we'll be catching up sometime soon.

Sorry, man. I'll let you ask more questions next time and I'll practice my piano pieces better too so that people always expect. You want to give us a closing note, something to close us out with? Play me off the break, Hayes Permar. Play something that can uh throw us to break with.

No, no, no. Excellent. We will play Joe Wilde's third volume of movie line calls next on the drive. Oh, look who's back. This is the sports hub at AM600, AM 920.

Now back to the drive with Josh Graham. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. It is time. For our weekly top ten list. Top 10 NBA draft term.

The draft is tomorrow. I'm reading this headline from the New York Post that ESPN has surrendered to Adrian Wojanorowski when it comes to tipping picks. For the NBA draft. Remember last year? They said he wasn't allowed to tip the pick.

So what he did instead was said that a team was tantalized by the opportunity, by the prospect of drafting somebody. You can't tell Woge not to break news.

So ESPN gave in to one of its top reporters and is essentially saying. If you don't want to know who's being picked, Stay off of Twitter. Yeah, good luck with that. Wow. It's that easy.

Yeah, not be on Twitter during the draft. Right? You can't tell Adrian Woja Narawski to not be Adrian Woja Narowski. I mean, Captain, you're holding me down. I'm a peacock, Captain.

You got to let me fly. That's what happens when you fire your entire NBA staff at that company, and there's only like two reporters left. Like, you kind of give them more reporters.

Well, we don't need any more reporters. You don't need anybody else. Woach breaks everything. Woach breaks more stories than all the other team reporters combined. I wonder what that dude's bringing home nowadays.

He's great. Maybe I'll ask him next week. He's going to be in Winston-Salem next week. Hey, we're going to be broadcasting from the NSMA. Seminar next week ahead of the Hall of Fame dinner.

If Woj comes up to us with Doris Burke, I'll ask him first question. Haven't met the guy before. What are you pulling in, friend? What are you getting on that weekly, Woj? What's up with that?

When it comes to the way we talk about the draft, it's often repetitive, it's lazy. It's used, it's just soaked in cliches, often that mean nothing. Words we just throw around. I think it's the bane of my existence. It's why I can't watch the draft.

I follow Woge on Twitter rather than watching. But. Just for these purposes, I'm going to turn the things that anger me, that annoy me, into entertainment, the way that Seinfeld, who a great comedian, would. And we're going to do this with our top 10 list. It's my top 10 draft terms.

We have a great team here on site at Kickback Jacks, our GML bunch, and also Heidi Pratt, who does a lot here. Heidi's on site to actually, I get to see her reaction in real time rather than in the studio, to hear what she belovedly calls bougie music that accents our top 10 list each and every week. Des, go ahead and hit it. Yeah, she's not a fan. Yeah, I didn't think she was a hand.

Not a fan at all. Intern Aaron, since I'm in a restaurant, don't really want to embarrass myself. Do you mind doing the duties of what I normally do at this point? I got you. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Very well done. A great amount. Impression of me, I recognize that. My number 10.

Draft term. Deceptively quick. Hmm.

Okay. Oh, I forgot the newest wrinkle to this: that we're just gonna play random sounds, which might also be Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson making an appearance on the show. How does that work, Dez? I mean you you said R.

Kelly should be canceled. But you're still playing Michael Jackson music on the show? Because Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson sounds. Michael Jackson was acquitted and he's dead.

So there's, I mean, it kind of ended the whole thing. R. Kelly's still going through it. Like, right now. Was he found guilty?

Who, R. Kelly? Yeah. Not the first time, but I believe he's got charges on him right now, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, but kidnapping.

Last I checked, last I checked, we're in the United States of America where you're innocent until proven guilty. Unless you did it 25 years ago, until he's found. In which case, until he's found. Guilty. I'm going to allow I Believe I Can Fly and Dar Kelly sounds on this show.

I don't uh popularity be damn. That's what I gotta say to that. Uh receptively quick people. I've always found that whenever deceptively quick is used, We're talking about white guys most times, right? He's uh He's quick.

Get this! Luka Dunkish. Deceptively quick. Just a deceptively quick player. You know what?

You never really hear that about African-American gentlemen. Yeah, it's true. We're just fast. Yeah, we're just fast all the time. Alex May, another deceptively fast guy.

That's right. He's deceptively fast. Luke May, very deceptively quick. Number nine. My number nine draft term.

Can't miss. Mm. Oh, hey Kawaii. Hey, Kawhi Can't miss Prospect. I think there are only Three players I know for sure are going to be great, but I think there are five who have potential to be like.

mega stars. I think it's Zion RJ Barrett, John Morant. Darius Garland and DeAndre Hunter. I think those are the five who have chances to be mega stars. In terms of can't miss players.

I think it's Zion RJ. and DeAndre Hunter. Those three players, I know for sure. They're going to be good players. See, I'm looking at the rest.

There's a chance it's going to be. Between 10 and like 17, somebody's going to come out of that group that's going to be that Kawhi Leonard, nobody saw it coming type of guy. And there's a lot of guys that are all the same. Yeah, I think so. This draft?

I do. I really think so. See, that was a loaded draft with Kawhi and Giannis when they were taking to the team.

So that usually happens every five years. Every five years you see something like that happen. I don't know if that is the draft where we see something like that. Maybe a Bull Bowl or someone like that. It could be somebody from our backyard, like Nas Little.

I mean, we don't know. We won't know for another three or four years, you know.

So we'll come back to that then. But I just feel like there's going to be somebody late in that first, or mid-first, that's going to end up being like an all-star kind of guy that none of us saw. I can't see Intern Aaron's face right now, but I can imagine what it looks like when Dez takes the opportunity to say a tar heel for the one that's going to be the star picked 10 to 17. I can't see his face right now, but that doesn't surprise me in the slightest. He came in the year ranked number three.

I mean, it's not like I'm making it. Eight! Number eight on the list. Cam Reddish was picked a little bit higher than Nasir Little. Notice you didn't bring him up.

Number eight on my list, top 10 draft terms. No comment. Checks all the boxes. Oh wow. Da-ba-da-da!

I mean more Michael Jackson. Yeah, man.

So Checks all the boxes. What are the boxes? They just box. Like, no one ever goes to the box. What are those boxes?

Like, Zion Williamson, he checks all the boxes. You got physicality. I mean, athleticism. He's got the size. He's young.

He checks all the boxes. Hopefully, you find someone in life that you want to love forever who checks all the boxes for you. I don't know what your boxes may be, but it might be: I need somebody who's tall, or I need somebody who's smart, or I need somebody who's sweet, or I need somebody who holds a pretty significant job that makes a lot of money. That's ladies. I wonder if any announcer called Zion deceptively quick.

This season. I don't think so. They should have. He's built like a left tackle. I've heard deceptively good packages.

Passer. With Zion Williamson. I mean I have some bounce pass. Deceptively good passer. I think Zion lacks one particular characteristic.

For the deceptively quick category, I'll let you piece together what that might be. Number seven, my number seven draft term. Intangibles. Angel. You always want somebody who has all the intangibles.

You know.

Somebody who's mature. Cam Johnson has the intangibles. Mature kid. He's a good locker room guy. He's a leader in a locker room.

Leader of men. That's a good one. These are other ones that could make the list. Leader of men, locker room guy. All pretty good.

Number six. By number six draft term. Basketball IQ. Ooh, that's a good one. No!

That's a good one. I feel like J.P. List is somewhere writing. Nobody has low basketball IQ. Nobody goes there, but they make sure to point out if they have high basketball IQ.

That would be refreshing if they did. No, I really like that. Dr. Villa sounds like the guy who would. Yeah, I know, right?

He's got a really low basketball IQ, though. I think I'd stay away from it. Who's the player? I really like the Sear Little. I really like the Sear Little, but he's got low basketball IQ.

See, that doesn't even fit him. He's like a straight-A kid or something. You need someone like a K-K. We're talking about basketball IQ. But it's what like Listen to the people who tested the best.

Listen to the people who tested the best in the Wonderlick, for example. We're talking about football. Jameis Winston, who was one of the best in the history of the Wonderlick. Uh-oh. That guy sounds like he can't read a book.

He does. And before you come at me and say that sounds racist, listen to Jameis Winston, the content of what he has to say. Not what he sounds like, it's the content of what Jameis Winston has to say. Don't come at me. He grew up in Alabama that way.

He grew up in Alabama. No, I think the best proof of that is the Eat the W clip. Have you seen that clip? Video clip? Uh-uh.

Or what he said when he stepped on a table inside a dorm eatery. That led to him being suspended for a half. I can't say that on the radio right now. But you have an operatable Google account, or you could just go to google.com and search that up, kids. Number five.

That's great. My number five draft term: high motor. I motor. Was that Kawhi again? That's Kawai.

Is that who that was? Yeah. Let me hear that. Yeah. Mike Langdon said, J.R.

Smith. Was someone labeled with low basketball IQ. Good point. That actually panned itself out.

So, yeah, that's it. Number four, my number four draft term. All the measurables. He's yeah. Zion has all the measurables.

All the measurables. That's a word that ticks me off. What are they doing? It fills me full of rage and wants me to get into a fist fight right outside the kickback Jackson. Parking lot.

Number three, my number three draft term. Student of the game. Mm. It's really good. Student of the game.

Yeah. If there was a book for basketball just reading. Every single day. How do you even get this? How do you get that title if you're a player, that you're a student of the game?

What are you doing to become a student of the game? Working on that basketball IQ? That's not your first in the gym. First in the gym and black gonna leave. Best friends with the coach, CK, coach's kid.

Number two. My number two draft term. Big board. Got your big board out there.

Okay. That sound just always brings me back. Number one. My number one draft term. Gymrat.

Ooh. Mm. I always picture when I hear gym rat, I picture this five foot six white kid with like a rat tail that's just running people off the YMCA court like all day. Has a black man or woman ever been labeled as a gym rat? Has that ever happened?

I don't think so. It's always the white guy. It's always the short white guy. It's the short white kid that never gets picked. And he's just like, he's got the headband on, he's got an armband, he's brought in like a jug of water.

Like, he's red. He's got the new Jordans on. Grayson Allen's probably a Jim Rat. Grayson Allen is a Jim Rat. Other ones that were on the outside looking in, like physical specimen freak, usually.

Uh I mean... These all In a racial direction, if you want it to. If you want to go in that category. I don't know many. White athletes who are labeled as freaks.

Yeah, freakish. Freaks. Freakish jumping ability. Freakish strength. Maybe Christian McCaffrey.

Maybe. I think I have heard that with him. Freakish speed or something like that applied to this CMC. He's deceptive. Plus, the arms.

He's deceptively quick. This would have been really hard to do wordplay. Like the Chicago Intangibles. Yeah, or Mike or Mike Quick hands. Yeah.

Or rather than Jim Rat, Jim Kelly. Nah, you did all right. You made the right choice. Plus Sir Douglas. I'm surprised I didn't hear a low floor, high ceiling.

Mm. Ceiling, I I had written down ceiling. I didn't get to that prototypical Outside looking in the pro body. Yeah, throw body. He was pretty close.

Fun stuff. Up next. The most entertaining press conference I've ever heard in a while. Or wait, those two don't check out. It's the most entertaining press conference I've heard in a while.

Ever in a while? In a while. You get the point. Keep it on the drive. Come on!

You're on the drive with Josh Graham, the Sports Hub, at AM600, AM 920. I thought he's the best player on our team. during the summer. And so yeah, I think it was at that point. You know, if you're the leading score in the history of North Carolina high school basketball, you're pretty good.

You know, you don't have to be a nuclear physicist to figure that out. Hehehehehehehehehe Delivering that line only how Roy Williams can. That is the North Carolina basketball coach talking about Kobe White. Who is? set to be a lottery pick.

tomorrow after I think the past year, last year at this time, he wasn't even projected to be a first-round draft pick, let alone somebody who left North Carolina. As a one and done, I do believe he's the best one and done North Carolina's ever had.

Now, I know Marvin Williams was drafted a little bit higher than where Kobe White is going to be taken. He was taken second to the 2005 draft, and I know Marvin Williams was a part of a national title team, even though he came off the bench, but Kobe White. Mm-hmm.

He did more for his team. His team needed him more than that 05 team needed Marvin. Regardless of where you think he belongs among the five one and dones at North Carolina, Kobe White's my favorite. Person to get the know, and my favorite story of somebody who's had success with the Tar Heels in recent years. I'm interested in how he's going to be remembered, though, since he was only here for one season.

despite him maybe being the best one and done. UNC's had, and maybe the best scoring point guard Roy Williams has had, and that's. coming from Roy Williams himself saying that during the season. It is only one year.

So 15, 20 years from now, are we going to look back and still remember what Kobe White did even though North Carolina didn't make it? To the Final Four, and North Carolina didn't win a national title like Marvin Williams' team did. Altogether, I think this team's going to be, this year is going to be fascinating for us to remember. Kobe White at UNC, Zion Williamson. R.

J. Barrett and Cam Reddish at Duke. This is going to be a year. Even though neither the Blue Devils nor the Tar Heels won the title or even made it to the Final Four, it's one of the more memorable college basketball seasons I can think of in the last ten years. I I think that Kobe's definitely got a shot, and he's going to have the size coming right in.

He's 6'5'190, so he's built to go ahead and start right away at either guard position. Although, I think eventually he's gonna settle in at shooting guard and just be able to handle the ball and spells. I actually I want to put an all-points bulletin out for Tony Bradley. Because the dude had the skill to really excel. His main problem is that he got traded to the Jazz, and he's behind Rudy Gobert and Derek Fabers, and he can't get out of the G-League for it.

It's almost like he needs to get traded to a spot that could use a good young post player that could grow. And I think he would have an opportunity, but he's on the verge of being forgotten. I think a lot of people have forgotten about Tony Bradley even being a one-and-done player. He came off the bench and he wasn't drafted very high. Marvin, here are the five one-and-done North Carolina Tar Heels: Marvin Williams in 2005.

Brendan Wright in 2007. Tony Bradley, as you mentioned, then the two this year, Nasir Little and Kobe White. Everybody loves him, Kobe. The Players' Tribune story about his dad earlier this week. Brant Wilkerson knew spoke with Kobe's mom for about 40 to 45 minutes, and that's going to lead to a story that you can find in the Greensboro News and Record.

And knowing Brant, him being an award-winning writer, that's going to be something you're not going to want to miss if you're a Tara Heel fan or even somebody who doesn't care as much but likes the human element of things. Then there's this anecdote from Roy Williams at his press conference yesterday, talking about. His impression of Kobe after getting to know his father, who passed away a little over a year ago, and also. Just the family altogether, his early encounters. One of my favorite moments from with Kobe White was when we went into home officially.

You don't do that in the kids until his senior year. And so we go into home in the fall of his senior year, and his dad had passed a couple of months before, and he'd been committed to us for since the summer after his sophomore year. But I stand in the middle of the room and I'm looking, I say, Mom, where do you want to sit? Because I don't want to get your chair. And Kobe's sitting in this nice, comfortable recliner.

She said, Get up. Bam! He jumped up, and I thought, My kind of kid. Because mom says, get up.

So she said, you sit right here, coach. His dad was pretty doggone neat, but the mom's strong and sister and brother, it's a great family. Kobe White, I think he's going to be a lottery pick. I think there are still some significant questions with him. I think he's 6'5.

He has a great handle, great shot, great speed, elite level speed. And he has a lot of the tools, and he's, again, going to be taken in the top 10 tomorrow and should be. But. We don't know if he's a point guard. We don't know if he's going to settle in and just be a shooting guard.

We're trying to figure out those questions. He doesn't have a big wingspan. He hasn't been that good defensively.

So there are some. Holes in his game, but there are holes pretty much with everybody's game here, just some a little bit more than others. And you parse differences when you look at the NBA draft after you get through the first three or four picks. How about today, though, being a significant day in North Carolina and ACC sports history? In a positive sense, 13 years ago today, North Carolina won its first and only major professional championship in professional sports.

The Carolina Hurricanes won the Stanley Cup, Game 7, against the Edmonton Oilers. Justin Williams hitting the empty netter to make it 3-1 with a little over one minute to go in. What was called RBC Center at the time, now PNC Arena. the building mostly standing for most of the game. Pretty neat.

The Hurricanes winning 13 years ago today. I'm trying to remember exactly where I was. I still kick myself for taking a vacation. When The hurricanes were Hosting a game seven, but also being on vacation when the parade happened. I missed that.

The Hurricanes and the Orioles are the two teams I love the most. The Orioles haven't sniffed the title in forever. And the Hurricanes, when they won. I was out of town. Didn't get a chance to go.

To that victory parade. That's the positive of June the 19th. That was in 2006. June the 19th of 1986, not a very positive headline. Lynn Bias.

Passed away. Lynn Bias died. Shockingly. The great Maryland player. And was likely, it's one of the biggest what-ifs in sports.

That was already a historic Boston Celtics team that had just won the title in 1986. They were gonna add Lim Bias to the mix, who anybody, historians from the ACC in the 80s, will say. It was Jordan, it was Ralph Sampson, and it was Lynn Bias. And parsing details to figure out who the best of the three was was almost impossible. But 23 or make it 33 years ago today, Lynn Bias dead.

Right after being drafted by the Boston Center. Man, Lynn Bias, man. In 86, I was. Eight, nine years old, and old enough to kind of start recognizing players I really liked and attributes and whatnot. Lynn Bias was Jordan like year two or three with the Bulls while at Maryland.

Like he was that much more advanced than what Jordan was, and he was just.

So good. He was good at everything. He had maybe the purest jump shot I've ever seen. He was super athletic. He wasn't scared of anybody.

Guys were scared of him. Like he was going to be Jordan before Jordan. And if you picture putting him on that 86 Celtics team, which many consider maybe one of the best Celtic teams of all time. I mean, it just would have taken them into another decade of just Celtic dominance if he had been there to be able to kind of take the torch from Larry. Just a sad situation.

And that's a really good 30-foot on him. You can vote. Yes, it is. You can vote on our Twitter poll. for what is the best movie call From Volume 3 of Joe Wild's Movie Lines.

He's been finagling movie lines from the audience into his play-by-play for the Dash. All first half, and we're trying to figure out what the best call from the first half is. Let's go through the final four. I believe this to be the best batch we've had so far. Let's start with the dodgeball reference, making it into the dash broadcast.

2-1 Fayetteville top of this sixth inning, but Scowk's shot went way over that wall in right field. A solo blast to make it a 2-1 ballgame. Saying with the bat to the pitcher JP France, Ouchtown Population UBRO. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. It's the best color commentator in all of sports movies.

Jason Bateman. Pepper's going to need a new pair of shorts. What's next, Des? The set from Togner and the pitch. It is a fastball away.

Count is at 1-0.

Well, just as one does not simply walk into Mordor. One does not simply walk into a first and third one out situation and try to dominate. It's just so applicable. He nails it. It's so smooth.

You don't just walk it to a first and third situation the same way you just don't walk it to Mordor. It's really good. This Pulp Fiction line, I think, is the favorite. You can vote on this on Twitter at SportsHub Tryad. This Pulp Fiction line, I think, should win.

Man, it's low and outside count is at 1-2. Close pitch there from Kim Cannon. But Canon's got a big enough frame that you could See him off the field riding a chopper, saying to his loved one: Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead. Yeah.

You could just picture that person riding a chopper. Heavy, big, big set guy, big muscles. Not riding a bike, not riding a motorcycle. Making sure to clarify, much like Bruce Willis did, that it's in fact a chopper. What's the last of this batch?

Daniel Gonzalez now with the AA Birmingham Barons, but Connor, he is the sweetest guy. Have you ever stared into his eyes? It was like the first time I heard the Beatles. Is that those? That's my favorite out of this batch.

It's such a quotable movie. I still don't think. Superbad is more quotable than Anchorman, but it's close. I think it's that one. Those are that one for that generation.

Those are the ones you can vote on, right? Vote on those. Figure out which one's the best. You can tweet us at Sports Hubtria, but make sure you vote on that, and we'll tell you what the winner is tomorrow. One of our favorite guests.

Is ESPN's Ryan McGee, who's going to be covering the College World Series in Omaha? On top of that, he wrote the book on college baseball and the road to the college World Series. He tells the best stories.

So, Ryan McGee will tell us incredible baseball stories on this show.

Next. Let's begin. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. You're on the drive with Josh Graham, the sports hub, at AM 600, AM 920.

ESBN's Ryan McGee with us now.

Somebody who's going to be covering the college world. series in Omaha. We're going to be co-sponsors. We already call it. Co-publishers, I should say, on Ryan McGee's next book, if he writes one on minor league baseball in the state of North Carolina.

The last time he was with us, he told the story where he was working with the Asheville tourists, and when they hit BP and hit home runs out the center, apparently there was this man who was fearful of nothing, and there were snakes biting his arm as he came back with baseballs and sold it back to the team. Ryan belovedly referred to him as the mountain man last time he was with us.

So the standard is set pretty high, Ryan, for this visit in terms of stories. But how are you doing? I'm good, yeah. Uh you don't understand the the uh the pride I take in the fact that the legacy of the mountain man lives And he j he just moved a little down I forty, but now people now people an entirely different market. Know who the mountain man is.

and that's uh that's big. It's really big. What does Omaha and the College World Series represent to you, being somebody who's the son of an NAIA national champ at East Carolina in the 60s? Yeah, well, it's funny too, because. I'm not going to compare my dad to the with the seventy two Dolphins, but You know, they're torn because the guys that played on the last East Carolina team to play in a college World Series.

Okay. so disappointed when East Carolina is inevitably good. Yeah. short of making it to the College World Series, but I think they're also a little relieved because they still get to say we're the last Yeah. And made it to a castle series, but no, it's You know, I'm very fortunate in that uh ESPN pays me to go to a lot of awesome events and My favorite Certainly, among my top two or three favorites is the College World Series.

And that goes back to. I mean, my dad, I I grew up in Raleigh and uh as you guys know I mean Right there on Tobacco Road. It's such a great place to grow up. And and you know, I grew up going to college baseball games. And so we always Dreamed of, we'd watch the Cause Royal Series on the ESPN.

you know, in the eighties, than we dream of going out to Omaha one day. And dad and I finally got to do that in two thousand one. And we did it several years in a row. And um And I was I loved it just as much. Much as I thought I would.

I loved it more than I thought I would. And I wrote a worst-selling book about the College World Series because I loved it so much. And so it's I'm getting on the plane Friday. and I could not be happier. I did not get to go last year.

And my wife declared, That uh I have to figure out a way to go every year because Because she's sick of me moping around the house while I'm watching games and not there. I'll be honest, though. I love the College World Series, but it just doesn't feel the same with TD Ameritrade Park versus old Rosenblatt. I know I sound old, curmudgeon guy like Grandpa yelling at the kids to get off his lawn by saying it that way, but it just feels like the fences are too deep. I know NC State fans still remember when they went and they're convinced Trey Turner would have a home run in any other ballpark except for that one, but.

Speaking of Rosenblatt and the history there in Omaha, what's the best story you could tell me you experienced there?

Well, it's why I wrote the book. I mean, I wrote a book 10 years ago now. It's called The Road to Omaha, and the reason we wrote it. 10 years ago was because Rosenblatt was in its final days. I think the book my book opened with the deal that was announced and the cutting of the tape and the shovels in the ground and all that.

in the parking lot of what is now T D Ameritrade Park. And I'm with you. Listen, I I always have mixed feelings. I always drive up the hill. On 13th Street.

You know, what used to be roads. Rosenblatt is now the parking lot to the zoo. All the Rosenblatt, you always see that kind of weird dome over in Wright Field. That's the zoo, that's the aviary. The zoo bought that land and it's a parking lot.

But what they've done is awesome because The foul poles from Rosenblatt are still there. and home plate is steel there. And what they did was they actually made a little T-ball feel Yeah. Built around the original home plate for Rosenblatt, and there's original seats from Rosenblatt. that are all around uh that little t ball uh It's awesome.

It's also sad. Yeah. That's Rosenblast gone. But DD Ameritrig's getting I'm really curious to get out. There after missing last year.

and see what it's like around the ballpark. Because what TD Ameritrade never had that Rosenblatt had was the neighborhood. Rosenblast sat in the middle of a neighborhood. And those are the best stories. I always think about that year in 2008 when Fresno State won.

and some lunatic Ran across The field with no clothes on. And uh you know he was arrested. Yeah. And apparently, in the 70s, that was a pretty frequent thing. The guys that worked the ballpark forever told me.

One guy walked up in the middle of a game and walked up to the plate with a whiffleball bat completely naked. And then like ran around the bases. This is like in the mid-70s, ran around the bases and jumped. Over the fence and disappeared and never saw him again.

Well, this guy. Who jumped the fence, arose the bladder, and ran around naked, got, I mean, got blasted. I mean, he got depleted by a member of the grounds crew. And they dragged him off and they take him to jail.

Well, There was a place called Stark. Right across the street from the ballpark in the old neighborhood, and I went over there at one o'clock in the morning to get a beer before I went back to the hotel. And there's this guy With his shirt off, bragging to everybody in the in the That he was the guy that was on the field. I'm like, there's no way. Turn out it was him.

And he had to go back to. Court because he had gotten a citation and they were going to put him in jail for like a day or whatever. and the attorney who defended him in court successfully. was another drunk guy he met in the bar that night. Across the street from Rosenblatt.

And I witnessed the whole thing. I was like, all right. There you go, dude. You should know that story. I know it hit well because we're broadcasting live from the Kickback Jackson Greensboro, and I see a lot of people laughing and turning around at the idea of somebody walking up to the plate butt naked with a wiffleball bat and then escaping the authorities to brag about it later on.

ESBN's Ryan McGee with us on Twitter at ESBN McGee. Mike Martin, though, I would argue probably the best story in all of sports right now. 40 years at Florida State, 40 win seasons, and he's here in Omaha after we didn't know if Florida State was going to make this field of 64. Just how wild is this run as somebody who's covered college baseball as long as you have and is certainly familiar with Coach Martin? Oh, it's incredible.

And what's even more incredible is I think about all the great teams. That I mean, almost twenty teams now, in the ballpark of twenty teams that Mike Martin has taken to Omaha, including when he was a player at Florida State and was an assistant under Dick Hauser at Florida State. Those teams have never won a championship. And some of the teams that he took to Omaha I mean, you go through the list of players, the the All-Americans and the Golden Spikes Award winners. I mean, I was there in 08 when Buster Posey was clearly.

The best player there. And they lost in two games. 2 and Q is what Mike Martin is the one who coined that phrase. Like, as in 2 in a barbecue, you play two games. Have a barbecue and go back to the house.

For this team which looked like it was going to be his only team not to win forty games, And made a quick exit out of the ACC tournament in Durham to this team. to have gone on the road And won in two very difficult places against two nationally ranked teams, two nationally seeded teams. Mike Martin never coached at LSU. And they went to LSU and won Super Regional. And so, yeah, no, you're right, it's a great.

And I think that I've been working with our USB and TV people. Mike Martin was the guy who did our open for the entire College World Series. I wrote a script that he read. And uh and I also wrote a script I helped him write a script Kind of saying his goodbye. And when I talked to him on the phone, he goes, You know what?

Let's just make a deal and let's just Why don't I just not ever have to run this on TV? I go, Coach, I'm all about it.

So listen, he's a North Carolina guy. You know, ESPN keeps saying, my TV buddies keep saying he's from Gastonia. He's from South Charles. Two years at Wingot. university when it was a junior college, is in the North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame.

And um, you know, he's lived down there in uh Tallahassee. There's a tower. but his family's still right here in North Carolina. I want to get to a couple other quick hitters. You cover a lot of college football, and there's a big headline in your home state here in North Carolina.

The North Carolina Senate is just okayed a beer and wine sales piece of legislation, and it looks like this bipartisan North Carolina House bill is going to make it to Governor Cooper's desk later on tonight. He expects to sign it, and that means I can't think of a better way to consummate this piece of legislation coming into fruition than NC State hosting East Carolina the first game of the year. But the SEC, they okayed this with a rule a month ago or so. Just how big of a deal is this, you think?

Well, I mean, listen, I say this all the time. I got no problem with people having a good time at a football game. My concern is they have too good of a time. You know, I have a fourteen year old daughter. And a lot of her memories of going to college football games aren't good ones.

And the reason is because I mean listen I I used to go to NC State East Carolina games in Raleigh in the eighties. And my memories of those games Aren't so much about the actual game as it is the drunk guys fighting in the parking lot at midnight trying to get out of Carter Finlay. And so that's what I worry about. Listen. If if you won't drink at the game, you're gonna drink at the game.

And you're going to tailgate and And all that, but I also don't mind that guy not being. Been able to buy more alcohol when he gets in the ballpark or in the stadium. And so I have mixed feelings about it. My concern is, everybody knows that. attendance is softening in college football.

That's not a secret. But Everybody keeps trying to convince me that being able to buy beer in the stadium is the magic bullet that's going to solve that problem. And I don't agree with that. But. That being said, Yeah.

We'll all survive and uh obviously somebody's gonna make some money, which I think and and and hey, we finally found something that both sides of the aisle and Raleigh could agree on, which is drinking in a football game. Another thing, I mean, one thing that people won't really agree on is just how entertaining the person I'm about to bring up really is, and that's Roy Williams. Yesterday, he spoke for about 30 minutes. It was one of the more entertaining press conferences I've ever heard. He was talking about non-conference scheduling.

It was the most humble of brags you're ever going to hear. The entire thing was great, but here's a piece of Roy Williams' press conference. I'm at a loss for words. Do we have a non-conference schedule that's been released? You were golfing.

Okay. I was down in Pinehurst raising $1.5 million. Yeah. You know, just letting you know that the reason I didn't know about that schedule is just, you know, $1.5 million, raising that nothing. And put a specific number on it.

Yeah. that's what you know, y this one coaches will tell you all the time they were at a fundraiser. Uh but I give Roy credit because he went on and just tacked an actual number onto it. But yeah, it's uh Um but I'll say this, I mean I'd say for football, I'll say it for basketball. Uh don't complain.

in college baseball. the seating comes out for the tournament. Don't complain to me. In in March or in the case of college football in in the fall when the committees won't give you the the uh the the you know, all the credits that you want. And you played New Mexico City.

State and some school I've never heard of and Athletes in action. Go play somebody, and then you got a pretty good resume. Even if you lose the game. In the room, it means something to somebody. And if you're in the room, you can raise $1.5 million to do that too.

What makes Roy Williams different from other coaches you talk to?

Well, to me there's just a frankness to 'em, you know, and And I I think that Yeah, the all shucks. thing is he's fully aware Yeah. with that. I think that's honestly who he is. The first time I met Royal Williams, interestingly enough, was at Rosenblatt Stadium.

Uh I was out with my dad or college World Series. And North Carolina was in this run where it went like three or four years in a row. In the old Zesto Milton Shake place right outside of old Rosenblatt Stadium. I was standing in line to get a milkshake and have a. hamburger in between games.

And there was Roy. Yeah. There to support North Carolina and Mike Fox and those guys, and I had my first kind of casual chat with him. And what struck me was. Was it talking to Roy?

Stay in the line. right there completely off The record, no tape recorder in my hand, he didn't know who I was. When I talk to him just standing there talking about Kansas and North Carolina and baseball and whatever else. When I talk To him in a formal press conference situation about an academic scandal, he talked to me the exact same way. And so in the end, as a as a as a writer, That's all I can ask for.

It's ESPN's Ryan McGee, somebody I rely on on all things baseball, football, and whatever else we're talking about, quite frankly. If we're talking about food, see, we're here in a kickback, Jacks.

So if I take that off the board of good restaurants that you could have here in Greensboro, tell me the spot, hole in the wall. You're going to Greensboro, you need to get food. What are you getting?

Well, I'm a Stamy's guy. I mean, my daughter just sang in like an all-state middle school chorus like a month ago. And no one was hungry, and I made them walk across the street from the Greensboro Coliseum to get stands anyway. I know that's not exactly something nobody's ever heard of, but But yeah, I also listen. No offense to Grainsboro.

When I get to Grazborough, My truck just automatically kind of points itself toward Pullems to go get a hot dog on Western Salem. I can't get anywhere near the triad. without my truck just automatically driving itself up there. And so I've been known to do that. maybe seventy or eighty times on the way to Martinsville.

I think you directed your colleagues well, though. When we were in Charlotte for the ACC tournament, Rhys Davis, Jay Williams, and friends stopped by and hung out with us a little bit, and then afterwards they said, Hey, Here's how you're making it up to us.

Next year, when we're in Greensboro, you're taking us to Stamey.

So people understand it. I mean, you coached them well. I think I'm going to give the credit to you or Marty Smith there. No, hey, Marty, because Marty doesn't eat barbecue. Marty doesn't eat anything that wasn't hand-milled by some woman in Nepal or something.

He doesn't eat real food. And so that was absolutely me. In fact, I walked into a production meeting. Um It was, I drove through Greensboro on my way to the Triangle for a football game, and I walked into a TV production meeting, and I threw a big old stack of stamina stickers. Like on the table.

And I said, Who's been here? And I got one guy, one director. One fat director raised his hand, everybody else happened, and I go, all right. you know, steel trip. And so, yeah, it's uh no, that's my hey, uh, you know, I lived in Connecticut up in ESPN as a Death Star.

for a couple of years and and what they try to what I try Yeah. Barbecue is not, it's actually just a steak. I'm like, y'all don't even know, it's not even a verb. What are y'all doing up here? Ryan, enjoy the steak in Omaha.

Enjoy the zoo and the baseball. Appreciate you visiting with us. We appreciate it. Anytime, thanks. You got it.

That's Ryan McGee of ESPN. Great as always. Always seems to deliver. Um Can we? Let's hear from Dave Doran if we have a second.

Dave Doran. You I sense passive aggressiveness. in the way that he's talking here, the way that he's speaking about this legislation going through and what is it seemed to be an inevitability that we're going to finally sell beer and wine at NC State ECU, North Carolina, Appalachian State football and basketball games. It had to happen. Dave Dorham was asked about it, and I sense a tinge of passive aggressiveness here.

Well, it definitely gives them the option to not leave, you know, if that's why they were going out in the parking lot, then. I have that option not to. It being a 15 minute halftime, you know. save their legs a little bit, let them relax and watch some of the halftime stuff on the TVs. obviously generates revenue for the university and for the program as well, which Everybody's in favor of that.

But you know. We have one of the best game days in the country in the first, second quarter. It would be awesome to be able to keep it that way in the third. Oh yeah, people were just leaving in the third quarter. Yeah, we have some of the best environments in the first half.

I think people are leaving because it's a noon kick, Dave, and you're losing to Wake Forest and Syracuse. That might be the reason more than the fact that, and now I know Wake State fans, the game was played in the carrier dome last year, but you get the principal. Thursday night, losing to Wake Forest when half. their rosters out. Maybe worry about that.

A little bit more than about the fans staying in the stands for the first half and then remaining there for the third quarter. I don't know how much that has to do with beer sales, though. I don't think anyone's going. You know, I've made it all the way into the stadium, but I really badly want another brew, so I'm going to leave this game that I would have otherwise been staying at if, by some miracle, I can pay $8 to $10 for a beer and wait in line for 20 minutes and already miss some of the third quarter. Like, it's just ridiculous.

Tomorrow, Danny Manning is going to be on this show. We're going to chat with the Wake basketball coach. We'll also visit with Joe Weil as well from the Winston-Salem Dash. Continue to vote on those lines, by the way, on Twitter from his most recent volume. We're going to be sharing with Darren Vaught on Friday, Mike DeCourcy from the Sporting News later on in the week.

Dez, what do you got in Ticket to the House Stories today? A Eddie Murphy sequel that will be landing in theaters next year. Has added to their cast, it may not be the movie that you want to have a sequel of. We'll talk about that. Eddie Murphy still making movies?

We'll find out.

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