What Made The Wise Men Wise? 10 Wise Moves For 2025

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What made the wise men wise? Ten wise moves for 2025. I like that. Ten wise moves for 2025. We're going to give you those real quick. But here's the question today.

I would love for you to call in and share. When did your directions fail you or you failed the directions? However that worked. You went to follow the star and it didn't lead you to where you were headed. However that worked.

I would love to hear it. Maybe you didn't get directions. Maybe you didn't. And sometimes GPS will just leave you to a dead end. 866-348-7884.

866-348-7884. When did you have that experience? I certainly have had them. So here are these ten wise moves.

I'm going to repeat them in every segment just so that nobody misses out. Because I think they're fascinating. All these the wise men did, right? So if you go read Matthew chapter 2 you're going to see they did these things. So number one, they were looking. I mean, they were looking for the King of the Jews.

And you know, if we were looking for Jesus then, you know, the only way we're going to find him, obviously, is if we go looking for him. And where they looked was they looked to his word. In other words, they knew the prophecies that they were looking for. And they looked to the sky for signs. They followed directions. Literally go west.

However that worked. They followed the star. They had, you know, it'd be nice, right?

Sometimes if our GPS was just a star right out there you could see where you're supposed to come. They came to worship. That's number four. They feared God more than kings, right? They didn't fall for the Herod trick. Number six, they rejoiced with exceeding joy when they found him, right? They really—I love people that rejoice with exceeding joy, don't you?

I love happy people. And they didn't come empty-handed. You've got to give them that. I love that they fell down in worship.

By the way, I'm going to go through all these things throughout the show and some insights into them. They presented wise gifts, right? That's number nine. They presented gold, which was like showing that he's a king and the value of that. They presented frankincense, which represents prayers, and myrrh, which they kind of took up their cross. And then number ten, they left the back way, meaning, you know, they left the glory to God. How many times do we leave the front way and we have a tendency to want to grab the glory? Well, the wise men did not do that in any way, shape, or form, showing that they were wise.

So here's ten wise moves as we go through these for 2025. But when did you, you know, I was telling Nick before the show, man, I remember when I was about 18, my parents lived in Kansas City, or they'd moved to Kansas City, and I lived in Albuquerque at the time. And I hadn't driven a whole lot, you know, cross-country and that kind of stuff.

And we had maps back then. I got in there about one o'clock in the morning. I could not find my way to their house. I'm driving all over Kansas City. It was Christmas time. It was freezing cold.

There was ice on the road in places. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. I'd call my parents. They'd say, well, turn here, do this. Finally, my dad just said, stay right there.

I'm going to come get you. And then once you had a star to follow, right, my dad was my star. And once I had that star, man, that was the easy pickings. When did that happen to you?

866-348-7884, 866-348-7884. So they looked to the sky for signs. They looked to his word, obviously, or maybe not obviously, that came from Persia, that area where Babylon had been and where certainly Daniel had trained many of these magi. And so they were familiar with the Scriptures, but they were also stargazers. They were astronomers. And they would have seen some amazing stuff and really cool that, you know, in today's world, we have the technology to recreate star maps that show exactly what the stars looked all around this time. And they've seen some unbelievable things as people that study this kind of stuff.

And I was going to share a little bit about that. But before I do that, I want to refer to Genesis 1.14. And I saw this this week. It kind of astounded me. And when God made—this is the fourth day, right?

This is on the fourth day. God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide day from the night, and let them be signs and seasons and days and years. You notice that before he did days or years or anything else, he said that the reason for the stars was to be signs.

Like, wow. And of course, we've used them for navigation, you know, since being a time. And of course, in those days, they had a different night sky than we have, because we have light pollution, we have regular pollution, we have all sorts of stuff. And they saw things that we all don't necessarily see.

And they saw them every single night. And so the big question that looms out there for people that study this kind of thing is, What did the wise men see that Herod didn't? In other words, if this was some big shining star that come flying into Jerusalem, right? Why didn't Herod know it?

That's a great question. You know, most people, they picture the star of Bethlehem, they think it's like a comet that comes in there and you can't miss it, right? Well, clearly, Herod had missed it, because he was like, What in the world? And when these kings, when these wise men came, they would have come with, like, hundreds of camels. It was a big deal, because at the time, Jerusalem was occupied by Rome. But these people came from Persia that was not occupied by Rome. And so these were literally kings that were of their own, you know, domicile.

These people were very important people. They come to town, they're going to, you know, people start talking. Like, What's up with this camel brigade here?

You know, what's going on? And they say, Well, we've seen this, you know, star in the east, and we've come to see who's been born king of the Jews. And they're all like, Hello? They should have been the ones, right? They were the ones that should have been looking for their Messiah. They were the ones that should have been looking for the signs. But it's more like, Here come the Gentiles.

Realize who these are. And the reason why this is Epiphany weekend here. The idea is that Jesus is now being found by many Gentiles here, you know, clear when he's still a child before he goes to Egypt, and as the Gentiles come looking for him, right? And it's like, Hello, McFly, didn't you see this star? I mean, don't you know that you've got a king that's been born?

Now, what they actually saw, and I find this absolutely amazing, Nick, I really, really do, and I hate we're going to go to a break but before I can get too much of it. But back then, when they looked into the stars, they saw the same constellations we see today. And they, from an astrology standpoint, they had the same signs that, you know, that went through the 12 months, you know, so, you know, like Leo, for example, they knew that Leo, with the tribe of Judah, meant the Jews. And so when something was going on in the constellation of Leo, they knew that that was going to have something to do with the Jews, right?

Because it's Judah, and that's the idea, the sign of Judah. Well, in the constellation of Leo, there is a major star. The biggest star of the constellation Leo is called Romulus, and it is called the king, the little king, of all the stars. So it's a big deal, this Romulus that's in the, you know, the constellation of Leo. Well, the other thing that's phenomenal is that the star that's usually called the king of the stars is not actually a star, it's a planet.

It's the planet Jupiter for a number of reasons. It's called a king because it's the biggest of the planets, but also in their night sky, much more so than ours, but even in ours today, if you look closely through binoculars or something, you'll see that it glows gold, and gold being the sign of a king. You know, here's this great big star from their standpoint because, of course, they don't know that it's really a star on a planet. They just know this is a great big light in the sky, and it glows gold, and Mars is glowing red, and so, you know, red meant war and those kind of things, but when they saw this gold, they're thinking king, right, because that was part of the way that they learned to interpret these stars. And so the neat thing about the planets is they go through the sky a lot differently than the other constellations because the other constellations are moving, you know, as we rotate this way, but the planets are also in rotation around the sun, and so they move through the sky, and this is part of what they're following. Well, when they move, they come close to other planets, and when they do, they create a different kind of light, and they call this conjunction.

Well, back around Rosh Hashanah of 3 A.D., there was started a series of conjunctions between Romulus, the little king, and Jupiter, the big king, that was creating these lights in the sky that told that something big was going on. And so we're going to get to all that, the signs, but I would love to hear your story. 866-348-788, when did you follow directions? And it didn't work out. We'd love to hear from you.

Call us. What made the wise men wise? What made them wise?

And we're talking 10 wise moves for 2025, and when we left our heroes, you know, the three wise men, which, again, keep in mind that these were Gentiles, right? And, you know, they were the ones that came looking for the king, and here they were, and they had seen something, and boy, had they seen something, because, again, you know, based on the computer-generated star maps we have of what happened back then is it'll blow your mind, because what they saw, again, in the constellation of Leo, which, again, they follow this stuff, because the night sky was amazing back then, and it still is if you can get far enough away from light. It declares the glory of God in so many different ways, and, again, Genesis 1.14 said to look for the signs, and so they looked, and what they had seen was this star planet, which is Jupiter, and the star, which was Romulus, had come together, and they came together on Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish new year of 3 AD, which they can tell you, you know, isn't that amazing? Well, what's even cooler, when you think about it, is over the next few months, they came back together three more times, almost creating a halo, as you can picture this star, because the way Jupiter works is unlike, you know, a star that's in the sky. Every time the Earth and Jupiter, you know, goes by the Earth or the Earth goes by Jupiter, it changes directions, and so, you know, it can go up to Romulus, it can come back to Romulus, it can go up, and depending on its position in the sky, when all that happens, you know, they come together in this conjunction, and so it was like a starry dance.

And that was a big enough deal, and, you know, the people that researched this, they believed that, you know, possibly, you know, that that was actually, you know, the consummation of the Holy Spirit, and Mary's, you know, situation where she became pregnant, because what happened next astounded them even more, right? The next thing that happens is Jupiter flies over into the, you know, the constellation of Virgo, which is the Virgin, which they knew that the Virgin would be with child, right? And here comes, here comes, right, Jupiter, this golden, this king planet, and it comes into Virgo the Virgin, and then it has a conjunction with the planet Venus, which is the mother planet, okay? And so, and it is, because it's Jupiter and it's two planets now, and they're both very, very bright lights. Jupiter's bright, I mean, excuse me, Venus is bright because it's close to the Earth, and so the brightness, obviously, is getting right there. Jupiter's huge, and it's bright, and it's gold.

And when they saw this conjunction, because this particular conjunction apparently is pretty rare, this would have been the only time they'd ever seen such a thing. I think we had one, like, in 2023, but they'd never seen a light like what they saw when Jupiter came together with Venus in Virgo, and at that point in time, when they saw that bright light, they were like, saddle up, boys, we're following Jupiter, right? And they followed Jupiter to Jerusalem, and then with these star maps, they can see kind of where it would go. Well, fascinatingly, again, about the time they get to Jerusalem, about the same time that they estimate that it would take them to travel to Jerusalem, the Earth went by Jupiter, and all of a sudden, what they would have seen was Jupiter head south, which is where Bethlehem is from Jerusalem. So, you know, they went to see Herod, and then they said the star came, and it stopped over Bethlehem. Well, when they can look at the star maps today and tell you that, guess what? Because of that idea that the Earth is now passing Jupiter, it went south for a bit, and then it just stopped for a few days, as, again, Jupiter and Earth were passing their two orbits.

And so there it stopped over the place where the child was, and at that point in time, right, what did the kings do? When they realized that here's the place, man, they rejoiced with exceeding joy. And I'm hoping, you know, following this Christmas holiday, that as we go into 25, right, every morning, you can get up, I don't know if you've thought about this, but one of the greatest stars that we get to see is the Morning Star. And you can find that Jesus is the Morning Star. It's mentioned in Revelation and other places that Jesus is the Morning Star, and by the way, he comes up every morning.

And it's always in the east. I'm just saying, as we follow directions, we go, okay, here's the idea. Every single morning, we can rejoice with exceeding joy because he's coming up every morning because he is the bright Morning Star. Okay, I mean, how cool is that? And, you know, if we really just follow directions, we'd see that, right?

I mean, how cool is that? So we look to his word and the sky for signs. That's the second one. They follow directions, right, and following directions has to do with obedience. And as you become more and more a hope acquainted with God's word and more acquainted through prayer with the Lord, the more opportunities you have.

And interestingly, it puts you in a lot of places. I've noticed through my life that, oh, my goodness, more and more opportunities to follow directions, more opportunities to be obedient. But again, when did you fail? When did your directions fail you, or when did you fail to follow directions? I would love to hear your story.

866-348-7884, 86634 truth. Number four I said before was they came to follow. Excuse me, they came to worship.

I find that fascinating. This was no short journey. And again, these were very, very important people. And the whole reason for the journey, right, is they're coming to church. I mean, they came to worship. And, you know, I had opportunity throughout the Christmas season to see a lot of people that I had never seen before actually come to worship, you know, in different church services that I went to and different denominations and all sorts of stuff. And I just marveled at how cool it was and how intent, especially, I saw more young people, I'm talking about people like 20 to 28 maybe, in that age range that were intensively worshiping. You know, yesterday I went to a funeral in Ashboro and met a young man who was in, he literally was going to Bible school.

And the intensity of his worship and his hunger and thirst for God became clear. So when we get back, we got six more of these wise things that these guys did, but we need your story. What about your following directions? 866-348-7884, 10 wise moves for 2025. Stay tuned. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com What made the wise men wise? 10 wives moves for 2025 and when did your directions work out or fail you?

You know, just following directions, that whole idea. We would love to hear your story. 866-348-7884, 86634 truth. We have a new listener in Michigan, it's Sid. Sid, you're on the Christian Car Guys show, so excited you called. Okay, yeah, great, love the show. I just discovered your station yesterday, really, and I've been listening to it ever since. So it's thrilling, exciting, and we are missionaries here in America, but we pastored in England for my wife's drive-in, and we've got to be somewhere at 11 o'clock. But it's just a great show, and what you're doing right now on the star is something that we've been talking about, so both of us will be chipping in if that's okay. I hope so. I would love to have that discussion with somebody that knows a lot more than me.

That would not be hard. Yeah, we wouldn't profess to know a lot more, but we've certainly known the Lord a long time. But I was always fascinated with Johannes Kepler. He seems to have been the first person that noticed this back, I believe, in the 16th century, the combination of the stars to bring about that huge illumination in the sky. Yeah, I saw that as well.

Isn't that cool? And he was apparently a phenomenal mathematician. Yeah, that's right. And from what I can see, it's almost like God created math on the fourth day. Right. Because all of a sudden, when he set these things all in motion, which he did at this particular point, on the fourth day, which I find fascinating, because he'd already made grass and plants and fruit and all sorts of stuff on the third day, but here it comes up on the fourth day.

Now he sets the sun in place to obviously make the grass grow. Yeah. And all these things, but clearly it's almost like since all these star things happened at the crucifixion, and they're obviously going to happen again in Revelation when he comes back, that all this stuff was set in place, the math was put in place on the fourth day of creation. Wow, that's interesting.

Yeah, I never thought about that. Just the stars, the constellations and what you said there about the pollution that we would have in comparison with those earlier days when there wasn't that same pollution, and they could see so much clearly. I experienced this in Bethlehem once. I was in Bethlehem, and we actually stayed in the Star Hotel, of course.

Really? It was during Intifada, if you remember a time of Intifada when there was a lot of power cuts and strikes and stuff. In Bethlehem we arrived there, there were no lights at all in the hotel, and I was with a tour group, and so we went outside onto the balcony of this hotel after we stumbled through there with flashlights and someone finding where we were, and looked out at the sky, and it was amazing. I've never, never forgotten what the stars looked like that night in Bethlehem when there was no power in the whole town and that hotel. You could just see clearly, see clearly, thousands and thousands of stars.

So, you know, it would be something like that, because they didn't have the lights and the power and everything that we have nowadays. I've always remembered that. Well, you know, when you think about it, it's really cool, Sid, that that's what David saw when he said the heavens declare the glory of God, because you're right, when you get away from all the light, we can get that at the Outer Banks here in North Carolina where there's no light, and all of a sudden you see there are billions of stars up there. Like, what in the world is going on? I've never seen.

And so the obvious, when there are billions to choose from, the brighter ones stand out more, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. In fact, my wife has got something on there.

She's driving. I'm holding the phone. Okay, well, let's hear it. If you've got a minute, she's got something here.

Please, yes. As we were, you know, just looking at this whole, the whole story, the whole narrative of the three wise men, the magi, you know, spiritually speaking, I was thinking about how often the Lord gives us promises and He tells us something to do. And as we progress and we go toward it, it sort of like disappears.

And you could just feel like, oh, my goodness, you know, what did I really hear right? And that's the same with these men. You know, they began on this journey and then the constellations changed, as it were. And then it was like, you know, do we keep going? But they kept going. They endured. They were faithful to that promise of God. And as a result of that, you know, they completed their journey and their mission. And we need to be like that, not to give up when the Lord speaks to us. And then He'll come back and continue speaking to us. But sometimes He's waiting for us to walk by faith, not by sight.

So I love that piece where they said they were so excited when they came out and they saw the star was right there, showing them where to go. You know, and that's what happens in our own lives. And I was thinking about that this morning. And what's your name? My name's Liz Doyle.

Liz, okay. So, Liz, I was thinking this morning, you know, that clearly the sun does come up every morning. And He is the bright morning star. And I was thinking, but sometimes the days are cloudy, right? And you know the sun is there, but I can't see it, right? But you know it's there, and it's the clouds that are—the sun is, you know, obviously doing what the sun does.

But it's just not always the same. And based on that, you know, I do—I agree with you, you know, wholeheartedly, Liz, that it's a faith stretcher. Like, are you still going to trust me? You know, it's going to come through.

It's going to be there. And so you guys are driving out there in Michigan. What's your mission? Well, we are—it's called Nations Light Ministry.

I gave it to the guy earlier. Yeah, we're Nations Light Ministries, and we actually are in leadership training. We were in church planting, but then we've been to over 60 nations training leadership. And we work a lot with the Muslim population, too, in evangelism. And also, I have a thing called She Leads America, and that is honoring Christian women in leadership across the United States of America. And now in the UK and in Pakistan, it's been quite incredible what the Lord has been doing. And so, yeah, so we're busy doing all kinds of things in the Kingdom.

We can give you our websites if you like. Oh, yeah! You're Robert, right? I'm Robbie, yeah. My website is nations-light.com, nations-light.com, and Liz's website is sheleadsamerica.com.

Really? And we've just launched in UK, launched in Pakistan, and my wife launched She Leads Michigan in 2019, and it's now in 20 different states in America. Well, since I have you guys and we're talking about light and God's given you a unique opportunity to bring light to that community, what might you tell our listeners, you know, if they encounter a Muslim, you know, what are some of the things that they can say that would be engaging but not offensive? Yeah, I mean, we've been going caroling for 20 years in one of the largest concentrations of Muslims. Yeah, in Dearborn, Michigan. I don't know if you've heard of it. Oh, yeah, I do.

I know all about it. That's the highest concentration of Arabs outside the Middle East, and it's here, just an hour away from where we live. And we've been ministering there through caroling as well as training university students how to approach and reach Muslims. And so the first thing is be friendly, be courteous, don't be led into any kind of red herring such as, you know, oh, you guys worship three gods and this kind of thing because that's what they believe.

Try to get them to know them on their own individually, because if you talk to two of them together, they will always defend each other and they won't really speak honestly as to what they feel. So it's possible, but also great prayer. And we'd love to be able to help anyone in doing that because we believe that in these days in which we live, those countries are inaccessible to the gospel. We work a lot with the nations that are here. And I believe that it's God's heart for these folks to come to know Christ. It's the largest on-reach people group in the world today. One person in every five is a Muslim on the planet. But what does God do?

And I think in his strategy, he's bringing those people out of the Middle East, out of these closed countries, bringing them to the West. I hate to jump in, but that music means we're going to go to a break. Will you guys stay with me? Because I love it. I love it.

I love it. Can you stay with me through the break? Oh, yeah, you guys got to be somewhere at 11.

That's all right. We're on our way. We've lost our way, in fact, but we're going to find the end. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. If you can hold the storms in place, you can hold my heart the same.

Whenever I fall away, whenever I start to break. So here I am lifting up my heart to the one who holds the stars. What made the wise men wise?

What made the wise men wise? Ten wise moves for 2025 today on the Christian Car Guys show. And when we went to break, we have Sid and Liz in Michigan, that they have to be somewhere at 11. So I wanted them to have another opportunity.

You've got two different websites, nations-light.com and sheleadsamerica.com. And so what's the difference between those two, Sid and Liz? Well, the first one we started, when we finished pastoring after 23 years in the UK, we asked the Lord, where do we want to go? And so we started the first one back in, what, 98, was it?

98. And then this new one, She Leads America, Liz started, I believe, 2019. But she could tell you the main difference between them. The main difference was, first of all, we needed 501c3 for when we came to America. And then she started, She Leads America.

So she'll tell you the difference that she does all the paperwork. All right, Liz. Yeah.

Hi. Yeah, what nations-light is our global outreach where we train people in evangelism and do leadership training. So that's nations-light. So that's, Sid does a lot of work with Indian pastors, for example, training them through Zoom. And then we travel all over the world training people and encouraging them. And then She Leads America is, we honor Christian women in leadership across all sectors of society because honor brings validation, validation brings courage. And we have just found incredible things happening as the women in this country who love Jesus across all ethnicities and denominations, as we say, link arms and lock shields for biblical values. So we've been doing that. But you know, if you don't mind, I have a story I'd like to tell in regards to our work with Muslim women.

Please. OK, several years ago, I used to bring, you know, up to 40 to 50 women to my home at Christmas time because they had never been out of Dearborn, Michigan. And we live in a little village about an hour away. And I wanted them to experience a Christian Christmas. And so I would always give them a gift. So this particular year I was asking the Lord, you know, give them. And I felt he said, give them all a nativity set. Well, I thought, well, it's a lot of women.

It's a lot of money. If I can find something under five dollars, then I'll do it. Well, I went into Wal-Mart and there was these nativity sets, four dollars ninety nine. So I bought a whole bunch of them. And I brought them home. And when the women came, I, I began to tell them the story of Christmas.

And as I unloaded them, as it were, I had to open the package. I found that there was Joseph, Mary and the baby. But there were no shepherds, just, you know, the wise men.

So I thought, oh, well, that's why this was cheap, you know. So anyway, I talked about Mary and I said, and Mary was a virgin. Well, they all shouted, yes, she was.

No man touched him because they agree with us that Mary was a virgin. And then as I carried on, I began to talk about the wise men. And it was interesting because I said and I had to the Yemen and we had been to the bazaar. And they are they say they have the best frankincense in the world.

So as I began to speak with these ladies, many were from the Yemen. I said, you know, they brought gold because Jesus. The Lord of Lords, they brought myrrh because Jesus Christ died on the cross to forgive our sins and to cleanse us and to make us right with God. I just talked to them like that.

I tell them the truth. And then I said that frankincense, I'm not sure why he they brought him frankincense. But I know you ladies know all about frankincense.

And then I explained I've been to Sana'a and to the bazaar and I actually had frankincense from their nation. And I said, why do you use it? They said, well, we use it to drive out evil spirits from our homes. You know, that was the main reason they used it. And I said, well, that says this to me.

Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. And I was able to, you know, bring the gospel in a way that they could understand it even culturally to themselves. And when I was done, they all took their gifts. I wasn't even sure because they don't believe in images, you know, that they took their nativity sets. And I heard that one lady in particular, she had hers right there.

Pray to place 20, you know, 12 months of the year because no one had ever given her a gift from America. And that's what I say is, you know, we just tend to be honest and truthful about the gospel. When the gospel of Jesus comes to us, we understand who he is through the revelation of the Holy Spirit, whether we have been brought up in a Christian home or in a Muslim home or in a Hindu home or in an atheist home.

When we hear the gospel, the Holy Spirit causes that to be truth to us and we can understand. So that's my story I wanted to share about the wise men and the Muslim ladies. Thank you, Liz. Thank you, Sid.

What an amazing call today. I'm so, so grateful for your calling in and hope you guys have a prosperous visit with whoever the God blesses it and gives you great favor with what you're doing there. Thank you guys so much for calling in and for listening. All right. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Bye bye.

All right. I wanted to catch these last few spots that I didn't get a chance to. As I said, number seven, they didn't come empty handed. When you go to worship, you come empty handed.

Right? They had something to give with their worship to actually show the value. And what they did was they just—we talked about the gold, the frankincense, the myrrh.

They covered all that for us. That's wonderful. It really is in so many different ways. And I also think of frankincense as prayers. And I actually burn frankincense and myrrh every—most mornings, actually—as part of my—the way that I worship.

I love that stuff. And I think that the myrrh has a lot to do with us taking up our own cross. Right? That it's a burial kind of thing.

And if we die to ourselves, it's one of the ways that we can worship God. Right? And then number 10—I don't know if you ever thought about this—they left the back way. In other words, they knew that if they went back through Jerusalem, Herod was going to jump on that and et cetera, et cetera. But, you know, they just slipped out of town. They just went about their business.

You know, not taking any of God's glory. And I've often thought about that as just, you know, really, really an amazing thing that wisdom gave them. And again, these were Gentiles. Right?

These guys were following in their own way what they knew about God's Word. But here's what they got to see. They got to see the baby Jesus. Right? Herod didn't get to see him. Those people in Jerusalem didn't get to see him. Right?

All those people that weren't looking for the star, they didn't get to see him. And they didn't fall down when they worshiped. I wanted to spend my last minute with that.

Okay? The way they worshiped in Persia at that time, they literally pressed their forehead into the ground. They stretched their arms out in what we would call today a child pose. If you go do it, you're going to find that you're going to have to get down to the ground. And the point of it is, in so many ways, if I don't understand my position, which is basically dust, then I don't understand how amazing God is. And so I spent some time this week as I thought about it. You know, getting down there with my forehead on the ground to say, Lord, you know, the ground is really, really blessed because all mankind came from it in its own way. But it has so many limitations compared to what God is. And when I add water to dry ground, I can bear fruit.

But if I don't relate to good soil, you know what I'm saying? It's one of those things. So all this is at my website. If you go to ChristianCarguy.com, there are the 10 wise moves for 2025. And a little bit on the star there that you can see as well. And one of the wonderful things is all of you that joined us today. I'm always so grateful for another year for 2025. And to share with you guys, I appreciate so much. Sid and Liz, their websites again are NationsLights.com.