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Learn more at Motorrad.com. We are back with you. I'm Aaron Clements with co-host Justin Courtney and we are back on the road and we were talking with George and George had one more thing he was going to mention to us. What was it, George? I wanted Justin's comment on tuning, a tuner for the 3.0 Duramax and I'll hang up and listen to his comments on that. Well, tuning is kind of a double-edged sword, George. Is your truck still under warranty?
Yes, it is and I understand where you're headed with that at that current time. I understand it may affect the warranty, but take that aside. It definitely will.
I used to work for General Motors. It definitely will affect the warranty. It will eliminate any warranty, I realize that. But the pros and cons of adding it is my question. There are pros. I'll put it bluntly. We have a Duramax truck too and mine's not tuned because it's certified and it's under warranty because even if you tune it back to the factory tune before you take it in, there's a record in there.
You can tell when it was flashed and reflashed and there is a way. We used to shoot people down sometimes and I hate to do it, but it is what it is. You can, in some cases, get – some folks say they get better mileage. You can tune out the def. You can delete the def, which technically I think you're violating the law when you do it. It is against the law. You may as well be out there cutting catalytic converters off. That's against the law too. So you are in violation of the law when you do that. But like I said, I haven't deleted anything on our truck because I don't want to break the law. Now, if I had an old 06 or something, 2500, that still ran pretty good and it wasn't under any certified or warranty or anything, I might tune it. It wouldn't have def on it because it's old, but I might tune an older one like that. But something that's under warranty, those things are so expensive to fix when they break.
I mean thousands to do anything. I'm not promoting anything like that yet, but I understand. In my opinion, if it was certified and you still got General Motors looking out for it for you, I don't know if I'd tune it, but you know, to each his own, I suppose. And I'm not – that's not my question. I'm aware of that.
Is there a probe on performance to tune it? I'm not going to throw away – I mean, that's a $25,000 or $30,000 replacement. Oh, yeah. No, you can get – no, those companies, those aftermarket companies, they're clever folks. They come up with big horsepower, I mean ridiculous amounts of power. And they can also give towing advantages because it could change the time that the lockup converter might come in.
And it changes the variable vane turbo and all this – yep. There's a lot of things that we're – especially if somebody is doing something special with a truck like towing or other items, you can make it do more what you want it to do. I will tell you, though, that a gentleman that I went to school with – well, he was an instructor at General Motors.
No, ACDelco. And I went to that class, and I will always remember something he said. He said, if you change something from the factory settings from what it is, you're going to give up something somewhere. Because they've got it all kind of compromised in to where you get the best of this for this. And if you change, you're going to lose something somewhere. Now, it might be something you don't care about. It might be something just saying, well, it don't run quite as well cold as gas mileage. Might be one or two miles per gallon down. But you usually give up something. Now, other way, you may lose some performance to gain some gas mileage or lose some power to gain some gas mileage. But it's a – they've compromised so many things in most cases on the vehicles.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Exactly. You're going to give up something somewhere. In that case, of course, you'd be giving up your warranty if you did it, which is huge. Yeah, I'm not – I'm certainly not promoting that.
The short answer is, yes, you can definitely get performance gains and towing gains. And the companies – yeah, there's lots of companies that do it. And it has a factory list on it as well, and that was another issue that, you know, you didn't see that very often.
Sometimes the list – the aftermarket list effect. Yeah, for sure. I thank you guys for your time. Yes, sir. Thank you for calling. Thank you. We appreciate the call. And the number to call is 800-224-9090.
If you've got a question about your car, truck, or your SUV and you want to ask it, now is the time. Or also, if you have a question or even a tip for us, we'd love to hear from you. We'd love to hear from you. We'd love to hear from you. We'd love to hear from you. We'd love to hear from you. We'd love to hear from you. We'd love to hear from you. And you want to ask it, now is the time, or also if you have a question or even a tip for others about towing items, that's the time.
And we do want to lay a tech tip quiz out on the table, and of course the winner will receive a prize package. I'll call it a grand – An extravaganza. Oh, it's huge. I mean huge. Life-changing. Yeah, life-changing.
I mean, it's just – I can't say enough about it. But you could win these beautiful prizes from the C&C Auto Show. And here is the question, Billy and a guy that lives in his neighborhood put something on the tailgate of his 2018 Chevrolet Silverado that cut his fuel consumption in half. I mean in half. And that's pretty much a true story. It can happen.
It can happen. Okay. If you know the answer to that, you give us a call. Let's go ahead and lay our first tech tip quiz.
We got less than a minute, but we're going to go ahead and mention this part. That is to review the towing capacity of your vehicle. If you plan on towing something, you want to know how heavy it is and what your vehicle is capable of carrying, and going over the maximum towing capacity can result in a dangerous handling of the vehicle, insufficient braking performance, or some serious issues to your vehicle's suspension system, engine, and drivetrain. So know those specs, and if you're buying something new, they'll normally go over that with you.
It'll be in your owner's manual, your gross vehicle weight rating sticker that's inside your door. Sometimes you have to do some math on that one. Exactly. Okay. I'm here with automotive expert Justin Courtney. We need to pull over for a few minutes, but we will be right back with you. The CNC Auto Show is brought to you in part by Behrman Products. Your vehicle a little sluggish, experiencing poor fuel economy, try Behrman's B12 Chem Tool. Featuring its exclusive HEST or high energy solvent technology, Behrman B12 Chem Tool helps clean your fuel system and can result in higher compression, fewer repairs, and lower operating costs.
Learn more at BehrmanProducts.com. I'm here with automotive expert Justin Courtney, and we are back on the road ready to answer your automotive questions and share some towing tips. We could say towing toys. Towing toys, towing for work, whatever you're doing.
Yep. Whatever you're doing, we will talk about it. We will give, we will share a lot of great tips on doing that. And we, uh, we got a little bit of a slow start, but we, we're going to catch up with a lot of our tips. I do want to lay that tech tip quiz back out on the table again. Uh, I mentioned it beforehand, but this is, um, it's, it would be good to give the question. Billy and a guy that lives in his neighborhood put something on the tailgate of his 2018 Chevrolet Silverado that cut his fuel consumption in half.
I mean in half, but what did he do? If you know the answer, give us a call and we will go over to Pat. Welcome to the CNC auto show morning, Pat, what can we help with? I've got a, I've got a 71 Buick and the passenger is no longer working on it as th 400. Uh, electronic dropdown, it is, I believe it is turbo flow is electric kicked out, right?
So is that my first, what should be my first diagnosis? Did the car have a turbo 400 in it originally or is it something that was added? Oh yeah, this original car actually, uh, in the, in the, uh, on the carburetor or I think it's on the carburetor, the little switch, I believe so too. Uh, that comes from the, you're going to, you're going to get 12 volt, some from the fuse box going to the switch on the carburetor. And then that switch, when you hit wide open or get close to wide open, it's going to close that switch and it's going to send the 12 volts down to a little male spade connector on the side of the transmission. Uh, and you've got either a bad switch or you're not getting the 12 volts from the fuse box that feeds that switch.
When you turn your key on, uh, you've got some reason you're not completing that circuit or the linkage is not pushing the button or the linkage isn't pushing the button or the little solenoid in the transmission may have, uh, that could be pretty easily with a power probe or a volt meter. You should be able to sort, uh, you know, narrow it down fairly quickly. It's pretty simple system that worked very well. Pat, I don't think, I don't think the computer's gonna be the problem on that one. You don't need a reflash or your ECU.
I don't think that's an option, is it? No, that's a good, the old turbo 400, that, uh, the system worked real well, but you know, being, uh, you know, 50 years old, it's probably got a few little kinks here and there. Yeah. Yes, sir.
But it should be fairly simple with a test light or a volt meter, you should be able to figure it out pretty, pretty quickly. And started, you said start at the carburetor switch? Well, what you might do is, do you have actually, can you, you can jack it up and get under the vehicle, right? Yeah. Oh yeah.
Okay. Well, get under there, turn the ignition on, don't start it, turn the ignition on and maybe have a helper. You go underneath there with a volt meter, a test light, unplug it from the side of the transmission and have your helper push the accelerator. You know, I think I want to say it has to be in drive, but you don't have to have the engine running. It goes through the neutral safety switch in some way to make sure, you know, it might not matter, but it either way, try it in park or drive with the engine not running, accelerate, push the throttle all the way down and see if you get 12 volts down to that connector on the side of the transmission.
If you don't, just start following it back and you should be able to find it pretty quick. And Pat, I'm the official safety manager of the CNC Auto Show, so anytime we're talking about things to do with working on a vehicle, I have to make sure that I give all that information. If anyone's working on a vehicle and they get under a car, use wheel chocks and put it in park and do the emergency brake.
And of course, if you do have to jack it up to get under there good, make sure that it's on a good flat surface and use jack stands. I'm going to record that. So I can just... Yeah, that's good. Good, good, good information.
Especially if you're taking the thing out of park. Right. So you don't want to hear back from my lawyer. No, no. I don't want to hear back. Exactly.
Now you're covered. Very good. But yeah, it should be pretty simple to work out. One other quick question if you have time. Is there anything, replacements for the Freon, if the AC isn't producing on the older models, have they come up with anything that will replace the Freon?
Oh, sure. We could retrofit it to R134A. Now that probably uses the old POA valve system, I would assume. But also there's a few things on the market that is supposed to be a drop-in replacement for R12 and... Factory air, it sounds like.
With factory air. Wow. And...
I'd like to see that. Well, you're more than welcome to. I'd love for you to look at it, all original, still has the points and condensers and everything. Yeah, yeah. Now, if you decide to do away with that, you could, Pertronix makes a drop-in so you don't have to change your whole distributor. You know, there's just something about being able to say all original, including just the AM radio and having the points and condenser in it. I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you 100%.
Just from a reliability standpoint. Oh yeah, no question about it, but... I still remember setting the dwells to 30. Yeah, 30 degrees of dwell with the Allen wrench through the little hole in the side of it. Yeah, you had to turn it. You had to open the window of the distributor. The little spring-type deal that goes in there with the Allen wrench on the end.
The little metal door you open on the distributor so you can reach in there. Yeah, and it wasn't, but about three years after that, that they started, they did the uniset points where the points and condensers were made together. And that was about 74, they started that. And then right after that was the ATI.
75 when they went to... And those were leaps forward back then. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. Thank you for calling. Good talking to you. Thank you gentlemen.
We enjoyed that call. Thank you very much. Yes sir, thank you.
The number to call is 706-863-5800 or 800-224-9090. And we will, let's give some tips on towing real quick. Yeah, absolutely.
While we got a minute. How about tires? Well, when you pull your trailer out, first thing to do is make sure if you don't want your tire to go flat while it's sitting either.
Either, oh, I'll air it up when I get it out. Well, that flat is going to dry rot. It's going to get a flat spot in. It's going to compromise the integrity of that tire. Don't let them go flat.
But when you pull it out, make sure you get your pressures where they're supposed to be. The main thing you see people do, I follow behind folks and you can tell they didn't check the trailer tire. They look flat going down the road and that's dangerous. That's what causes that and tongue weights where it causes trailers not to tow very well.
Yeah. And have you ever ride down the road interstate or just even on a regular road and see the poor fellow with all the tubes and the skis and all that in the back of their boat and they're on the side of the road with the tire jacked up and don't be that guy. Don't be that guy.
Don't be that guy. Check your tires. Make sure they're not dry rotted. Check the pressures.
They're so commonly overlooked, tire pressures and check the tire pressures on your vehicle too. And a tire that may have been sitting up for a long period of time or a person that their vehicle may have been sitting there for a long period of time, the tire may look good, but you really want to look at the date if those jokers are like six, seven, eight, nine years old. Yeah.
They've got a date stamped in them. Okay. That's all over a minute.
It looks like. Check your tires if you plan to tow it. That's whether it's a boat, a camper or a motorcycle trailer. Check it out. Okay. Uh, I'm here with automotive expert, Justin Courtney, and we are having a great time and I hope that you are, we'll return shortly, ready to answer your automotive questions and share some tips on towing.
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That's what we do all day and we love it. I want to lay the tech tip quiz back out on the table, Billy, and a guy that lives in his neighborhood, put something on the tailgate of his 2018 Chevrolet Silverado that cut his fuel consumption in half. What did he do? And this could very easily be a true story.
I mean, it's I'm sure no doubt in my mind that it has happened at one time or another. And as I was talking about this tech tip quiz first, Mason wanted to answer it. He come in and our producer, Mason Rogers, he come in here and he mentioned something. He wanted to take a stab at it and said, get a microphone. And but what was it that he said was his answer? A tonneau cover over the cover over the back of his. Yeah.
So Mason first put it on stage. All right. Now what was his answer again?
Tonneau cover. Okay. Mason now give you the button. Yeah. Okay.
That was a self-inflicted button, self-inflicted that had to hurt. Okay. Let's um, let's go over to, oh, and if someone knows the answer, give us a call. Yeah, call.
Call number two. Let's go to Ricky. Hi, Ricky. Welcome to the CNC auto show. And we get a little silly sometimes, but what can we help you with?
Well, I got one little quick question. It's about, I've got a 2008 Volvo C70, you know, our top convertible, really a beautiful car. I've had it eight, nine years in a echo situation, like in a parking garage, I'll occasionally hear some rattle, which I'm assuming is a catalytic converter. You know that you need to replace one. Well, if it rattles long and bad enough, it's going to break apart in there and the cakes in there are going to turn sideways and you're going to be sitting side to edge. But usually like, we'd see that a lot on Jeeps and stuff, but they'll rattle for a couple of years before they'll break apart. How do you know when you need to replace one?
Clearly. If it rattles bad enough that it breaks and it won't run, clearly that's a good clue. But you know, you may get a check engine light, a catalyst efficiency, you know, in the short answer to that is that that cat has reached its end of life. It only does its job for so long. And then will we see it all the time in the business that will, you know, a car with a couple hundred thousand or 150 or, you know, whatever mileage it's time for, you know, it starts that cat is why the computers, no, that's not even a lot of Ricky. What I normally do on those is I just take my fist and hit the converter. But from past experience, I would let that joker cool down a little bit because I've hit on it and it don't take you, but just a second or two to, uh, like, like, uh, like, like Justin mentioned that you get a lot of your DNA on the converter because it melts your hands.
Yeah. So let it cool down and kind of hit it a few times or use a rubber hammer and hit it a few times, uh, or be underneath it if it, if it rattles at idle, um, have the vehicle running while it's on a lift rack and look under it and see, uh, if that's what it is. It's rare, but I do, you know, the first time I heard it, I thought something was dragging. And then, then I heard one of your shows when somebody said something about that and you said, oh, you got to get a little burner going outside. It could be rattling around in there. Could be a heat shield. A lot of those Volvos and they have turbo charges, uh, and they have all kinds of heat management stuff going on under the hood. There's a little all the way underneath it. There's a downpipe that's got heat shields on it and all that stuff can rattle over time. Uh, you know, it could be the cat, but it could just be something simple too. Okay.
What is that involved me that much that I just didn't want to get stranded one day. Like for sure. It'd be very doubtful. It used to be many years ago, we used to run into a fair amount of them that would turn sideways and block this is all, but I bet we might see one. It's not very often. I hadn't seen one in a year or more. Yeah.
It's not too often. They make them better. I think they make it, they just make them better.
Yeah. The way they're designed. They're not as likely to do that anymore. And extremely expensive. I noticed they are, uh, some of them, especially those European, especially that like a Volvo something European, some of those Mercedes and other stuff from Europe, they get real expensive.
Real. In fact, that's what the thieves are cutting. They'll sneak underneath, they'll sneak underneath European cars and cut them. In fact, Aaron, during the break, Aaron was telling me the new thing, the thieves are doing.
Yeah. What they're doing now. And now of course we're still going through the issue with people cutting off catalytic converters, especially a bus or a truck, something like that. And they can just easily get up underneath there, take a saws all boom, cut it off and toss it in there. And some of them, they get two or $300 a piece for it. Well, now the big thing is they're doing the same thing. Only they're taking a drill, drill in a hole in the gas tank and letting it, uh, just gravity feed into a tank and then stealing the gas. You got to figure you can, you can get a $5 a gallon tank of gas and get a couple of hundred dollars right there. Pretty quick. I didn't know that that was a thing.
Aaron said, told me about it. That's the big thing now. Oh, and just like a catalytic converter, it costs the person a huge amount of money to replace the converter with the gas tank. You have to, you can't repair a gas tank, you have to replace it.
So you're talking a thousand dollars or more to replace it just so they can get a hundred dollars worth of gas. Quickly. Yeah.
That thief doesn't care about you. That's a heads up that's coming. Watch out. Yeah. All right. Thanks for calling. Hey Rick, we appreciate the call.
Very nice of you. And uh, it is, um, it's, it's going to be amazing now. Of course, many years ago, uh, vehicles were putting on the locking gas cap so they wouldn't have to worry about people stealing their gas cause they'd stifle it out. And of course now they got the flaps in there to where it's very difficult. The rollover valve and the check valve is that you can't hardly get it, you'd have to drill it to get it out. Gravity feed and um, I don't know, I'd be a little nervous drilling into a gas tank.
With an electric drill. Yeah. No thanks. I don't think I'd go with that very well. From a safety standpoint, nevermind the moral standpoint. Yeah, exactly. Okay. We're going to, tech tip quiz, Billy and a guy that lives in his neighborhood put something on the tailgate of his 2018 Chevrolet Silverado that cut his fuel consumption in half.
I mean in half. So if you know the answer to that, you give us a call, but you're going to have to do it during the next hour because the fuel gauge is on E and we need to pull over. I'm Eric Clements here with automotive expert Justin Courtney and our show producer who got the ah button, a self-inflicted ah button in there is Mason Rogers will pull over and fill up the tank.
We'll be broke, but we'll be back on the road shortly. Thank you all for tuning in and a special thank you to all you that called in to be with us on the CNC auto show. Yes sir.
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Always use blaster products and work it like a pro. And we do welcome you to the CNC auto show. I am Eric Clements here with co-host Justin Courtney and Justin. We had a great hour last night, man. I had a good time. We're going to have a good hour this time too.
I look forward to it. What makes it really good for us is when the people call in. And they ask questions and we're able to talk about cars.
That's what we do all day. We, we work around cars and we work around cars because we love cars. We, uh, and it's a, um, it's just so American.
I mean, it is the cars are very steeped in the American history. They are, uh, and plus we're here to give information on ways to make a car safer, dependable, and to make it last longer for less money. And are we ready to crank this bad boy? We're going to crank it up. So we want you to give us a call 800-224-9090. And we'll also be talking about towing items like boats, campers, trailers, whether you're towing for pleasure or towing for work, uh, we want to tell you ways that you can do it safely and, uh, come out good on that.
We do have a tech tip quiz that we laid out on the table before. And we will go ahead and mention that again, Billy and a guy that lives in his neighborhood, put something on the tailgate of his 2018 Chevrolet Silverado that cut his fuel consumption in half. What did he do? And we'll be looking for an answer for that. Let's go to the cause. Let's go over to Eric. Eric, welcome to the CNC auto show.
What can we help you with? Good morning, Eric. I want good morning. Good morning, Eric, you know, we need to put you on stage first, right? And Eric, be careful because Mason, our producer, Mason Rogers, he tried to give the answer a little bit earlier during the first hour. He had to give himself the odd button and he's been sitting in the corner, uh, every sense.
His fingers hovering over it right now. Oh yeah. That's that's him. That's him right now. You see what I did?
You don't, you don't want them to be you, Eric. That would be, that would be bad news. Okay. What is the answer to the day's tech tip quiz? Well, I actually back in, I had a three 50 blazer. Well, I had a three 50 motor with a quadra jet in it back in the eighties and you could, if you left it idling at the gas pump, you couldn't get it to fill up.
So he had to turn it off to top it off. But anyway, I bought a Honda. I load and cut my fuel consumption quite a bit.
So I would imagine that he bought a vehicle from his neighbor, an economy vehicle that, uh, you have him less drive time for his truck. All right. All right. Now say that one more time. I didn't quite grab that one, Eric.
He probably bought a vehicle from his neighbor, an economy vehicle from his neighbor, and probably while they were standing there talking about it or after they made the deal, he laid the keys to that vehicle on the tailgate while they finished their conversation. Oh, I think it, well, um, wow. Eric, you put a lot of thought into this thing. Yeah, it almost makes me feel bad doing, yeah, doing what we had to do. It kind of makes me feel bad, but, you know, I think it made Mason feel good because he was able to shift that over to somebody else because legally he was the last person that got the odd button.
Now you're the last person that got the torch. Yeah. And, uh, so now you will have to hold on to that until somebody else calls in and gets the odd button. So thanks for calling though. Yeah.
I hope, I hope it don't last too long. Hey, thank you for calling. We do appreciate it. Um, I will say though, that, uh, Eric was kind of on the right track. Really? I'm not, I don't even know where the answer is, but I, I could, I think I could see where I thought he was going with it, but it kind of went the other way a little bit.
And I was like, we're going to have to send it to the judges on that. Yeah. I'd be very happy to tell you the answer, but the biggest thing is, well, I like to tell you, listen to the caller. You can't answer. Right, right. I don't want that.
And so in doing that, you won't stand the chance of winning the CNC auto show official. I'm going to put my hands on it. I'm holding it. It's one side of it to where other people will see this as you're doing it.
It says official tech tip quiz winner, and everybody in the room will be looking at you as you're, as you're standing there. Okay. Let's give a quick trailer towing.
Yep. And then we will go straight to the phones right after that. We'll be going to Todd. Yeah, we'll go. We'll be going to Todd.
Mason won't make my letters bigger on the screen. So I have to, I have to go with it a little bit. Um, what I mentioned a quick thing about transmission fluid and towing, the thing that causes transmission fluid to lose its lubrication ability is the heat. The hotter transmission fluid gets, the less viscosity it has, and it don't lubricate as well. Now, if you were able to run, uh, 195, 175, 195 degrees temperature on transmission fluid, you could actually drive it a hundred, 150, 200,000 miles, because you don't have any combustion gases going into the transmission, but what breaks it down is the heat heat. So, and there's a, a very, there's charts that you can see to where the hotter it gets, the faster it loses its ability to lubricate as well. Ability to lubricate the fast moving parts and actually a fluid, uh, that gets, uh, when it starts getting up to 220, it's, uh, yeah, it starts losing it quick, 195 degrees, you start losing a lot of it at about 50,000 miles. When you get on up there to 220, it drops down to about 25,000.
Yes, it is. So you want to make sure that you keep an eye on that transmission fluid. If it, uh, I'd recommend replacing it on a regular basis.
If you're doing showing like 20, somewhere between 25, 30,000 miles, depending on how heavy the item is, you're towing. Uh, but if you, uh, one thing you can do also is look at the color of the transmission fluid. It'll take on a bad smell.
Even if you get to that point, it might be, you might've overstepped. Exactly. Right. And your engine oil too, is when you're pulling a big, heavy trailer, your engine oil also is going to take a little bit more of a beating than, than it normally would in normal condition.
You're exactly right. So make sure that's not good. Another thing is a lot of those towing vehicles, like a truck or something, that's got a towing package. We'll have a big transmission cooler on it just for that reason.
But it's still, it's still, it still puts more and more and more. When you look at a maintenance table that says normal conditions, heavy duty conditions, you know, when you're pulling a big fifth wheel or something, that's, that's extreme conditions. And that builds up a lot of extra heat. Your maintenance table needs to be cut like in half. In short, maintain your vehicle for towing.
If you are towing. Okay. You ready to go to the cost?
Yeah, there's a, yep. Let's do it. Let's go over to Todd. Hey Todd, welcome to the CNC auto show. And what can we help you with? Yes, sir.
Thank you. I have a 2005 Ford expedition with the three valve 5.4 liter engine. And it stalls every time you come to a traffic light, it'll sit there and idle a little rough and then just shut off. If you put it in neutral, it doesn't stall.
Lots of things could cause that. Um, that you said it's an 05? It's a 05.
Yes, sir. Check engine light on? It is not.
It's not. It is not neutral. I changed the timing chain. I've changed the lash adjusters. I've changed the fuel pressure sensor. I've changed the oxygen sensors. I've went through this thing with quite a bit of detail.
There's a, there's a little small nut in the, on the bumper in the rear. Have you done that? All right. Have you, have you, just for, just for giggles, have you cleaned your throttle body on that?
That was my thought. Have you cleaned out? I have cleaned the throttle body. Okay. Did it help at all or did it make any difference whatsoever?
It did not make a difference. It runs when it's running. It runs like a sewing machine. You can't even hear it, but only at idle when you stop at a light and it sits there and idles for, you know, more than a minute or 20, 30 seconds, it'll start running rough and then just, just shut off. Todd, we're going to put you on hold just a second and we're going to come up with some good answers for you when we return, but be right back.
