Good afternoon, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler. Welcome into the Winklerverse.
Grant Bills alongside Paul Imig is here. We made it to the end of the Bucks game, me and my boys, for those of you following that riveting storyline. 9.30 on a Thursday. No school the next day. He was super into it.
You know what I heard the other day? Tuesday morning, I got him in. I think he's in basketball more than football because it's every night. I had to buy League Pass because of him. First time I've ever bought League Pass because he's like, Daddy, I don't understand why we can't see all the games.
Wow, this kid's ahead of his time. I go, well, we only get so many games. He goes, but I want to watch Bulls Kings right now. I go, all right, if you want to, I'll turn it on because he knew.
He looks at my ESPN app. I think it was yesterday, two days ago. I'm in and out of sleep. When they get up in the morning, she takes him to school. Some days, thank God, I sleep through it. Some days, it's like, I can't. I heard him down the hall going, or I heard my wife say, Daddy needs to sleep. He works hard for us at night.
Being just a great, thank you, honey. He's like, but I want to see the scores. I told him today, I said, even if mommy says, come in bed with me.
He came in and we looked at the scores. I don't know, is this a phase? Is this forever? I don't know. It's a good start.
Rossella Winkler, sounds like. Yeah. He goes to me, Dad, do you actually watch the games? If you actually watch the games. I had a guy call in last night, do you actually watch the games?
Max Crosby sucks. He's like, he didn't do anything against the Bills. I'm like, last time he played the Bills was September of last year, he had six tackles. It looked like he did just fine.
He's played the Bills twice in his career. I blew up at callers last night, mainly for saying the, oh, I was telling Carlos off the air. I don't care.
Yeah, I don't care. The biggest L I ever took is when we had Kevin Harlan on Bill's show and he called in late because the power went out or whatever. This was over the summer and something came up on the air that I was joking.
We were talking about it off the air. And Kevin goes, before I came in, before I came on with you, Bill, I was talking to your man back there. And I'm like, oh, fuck.
That's just, I don't know why that he was doing his best. He can't remember everyone's name. And I'm like, oh, I wish you would have just said nothing now.
Anyways. Why do, why is it when guests say your name? You're like, it's endearing, but it is Paul, but, but like you put these people on your show, you say, it's the name of your names in the show.
And then Kevin Harlan will be like, well, you know what, Bart? And I'm like, he said it. I can't relate to that, but with other people like Ken with Rob Reichl, I get it a lot, a ton, a lot of names in that one.
Robby gets you three names and answer. Yeah, he's good. It gets you. These are things, these are things you teach though. You teach this. Yeah.
You teach, say the host name. How are you gentlemen doing? Good.
Good. By the way, if you wanted to watch Bulls Kings, he's not like into the NBA per se. He's a junkie already. I'm pretty sure he likes Bulls Kings. He wanted to watch Wizards Jazz last night over, over Celtics.
No, not over, over maybe Heatmix. I don't know. There was a game that mattered more, but he wanted to watch the Wizards because he knows they have 10 wins and he knows they're in last place. So he wanted to see if they could get to 11.
Hmm. And he always asked me like, maybe I've told you this, but he always asked me, who's better. Who's better. He's obsessed with who's better because then he still thinks like it's an upset. So the box with 33 wins beating the Nuggets with 37, that was incredible to him.
He witnessed the miracle on ice basically every time he sees that happen. Yeah. That's awesome.
So I don't know. There's a game this Saturday. I might go to it again, but now I don't want to like overdo it. You know, I looked at Badger's tickets because it's their last home game of the year. It's their last regular season game and nose bleeds were like 220 bucks. I'm like, I'm not, I can't, I was going to take, I was going to take my kids to a college basketball game, but I decided I love them too much to do that.
That's just a weird, this is a you thing. Plenty of people like college as well. I'm not, I'm not watching St. Mary's and on bracketology.com. I just watch my team. And then when they're not on, if Marquette's on, I turn that game on and I cheer against them.
But yeah, it's probably more expensive or at least as expensive, but probably more expensive than a box game. Yeah. 220 for a nose bleed. Who is it? Who is it? Badgers who? Penn State. Penn State's the worst team in the big 10. They're terrible, but it's the last game. It's a Saturday matinee. So, but they're not cheap tickets.
That's really actually startling. What's the face value on those? I don't know, but my girlfriend's coworker, once upon a time when we were at a function was like, Hey, I have badger season tickets.
If you guys ever want to go, just shoot me a text anytime and I'll sell them to you for face value. And I'm like, that's not where I thought that that sentence was going. When you started, I, I, my hopes were high, but then you finished saying what you were going to say.
Like I, I thought you were going to offer me tickets sometime, but that's not, We ever won him 15% over face. Something you just said confused me. You said my girlfriend, when I was at the radio row before the Superbowl, I was told wife. I did say that to Jenny Taft and one other person. And I can't remember who the other person was, but it was someone with like twin cities, Minneapolis. Well, I think Jenny Taft's from Edina technically, but when they both women, did you go wife with the women and girlfriend with the no, no, if I did, it wasn't on purpose.
Obviously it wasn't on purpose. You tell page sporadic that you're totally single. I got in and out of that as quickly as possible. Do you just say you got in and out of that? Yeah, clip that. I, I said hello and got a picture and ended that interaction as quickly as possible. Why? I just want the picture. I don't even care that I'm meeting you.
I just want the picture so I can tweet it. You know what I mean? Like, and she was very nice. Like, I absolutely I'll get a picture, you know, like, thank you.
We got to get you back to Milwaukee. She's like, I know. I love it.
Then I'm like, all right, I'm, that's, that's good. Remind me though. Did she know you were the one that made the thing?
The didn't ask. I told her people. I was like, Hey, I kind of, it's like, I am in Milwaukee.
We liked her bobblehead day with the brewers. Like, could I just get a quick picture? And I got it and got out of there. You didn't say you made a 40 minute podcast, mockumentary.
If you did that about a woman, would you lead with that? Where Kurt Hogue did some of the finest work he's done still to this day. It's unbelievable. He sounds like he sent a fucking discovery channel doc. Oh my God.
That's incredible. All right. I'll ask, I'll ask him here and then hit us, Paul.
Then I'll leave and come back. Oh, okay. Trey Hendrickson. Cincinnati Bengals star. I think he led the league in sacks this year.
Did he not? Pert near breaking news has is being allowed to explore his trade options. This being on the same day that the DK Metcalf stuff comes back. This being right on the heels of Max Crosby, resigning with Oakland. My question is all these big names that are coming up, you would encourage Packers fans to pay little mind to all of them. Be it Hendrickson, be it Metcalf sports radio job aside.
The fact that this gives you sports radio content Packers fans should pay these names of little mind or are you disappearing into the night in four minutes? Okay. And then you're coming back. Yeah. If you want.
Oh yeah. Okay. Yes. Okay. I do. When are you coming back?
Yeah. When are you coming back? When are you coming back?
Shortly thereafter. Are you sick? I'm fine.
Okay. I am sick. I was sick. And now I have a, I was like sick and it was like everything.
And now I'm like, I would, I would sacrifice a body part to be regular again, really struggling there. I do want to talk about this from a fan perspective, but grant from a sports radio perspective. I thought you were going to say owner perspective. I all speak to the owner.
You speak to the other two. But I mean, I want to ask you about it because I feel like, I feel like this is the time of year. This is the time where, you know, some nights are harder than others, but there is still football that you can like, you can get, you can make something out of it.
There's enough ingredients that if you need to, let's say you're, you know, market size number three in the city and need to, or in the country and need to talk about backup quarterbacks, you can get a segment out of that. A veteran backup, you mean specifically? Yeah. Other than Tyson Bajan, who I guess is not a veteran yet?
No, not yet. When does that happen? Um, I, I am just so, I feel like I said something to this extent the other night is as a 40 year old fan, I am beat down just from that in terms of, yeah, in terms of, Oh, we might get Randy Moss. Oh, we might get Marshawn Lynch. Oh, we might get Tony Gonzalez.
Oh, we might get T Higgins. Oh, like all this kind of stuff. I'm beat down from that where I'm already like, I don't want to play the game. Cause how often does it come true?
And then when you do get a guy it's out of nowhere. Like it's never like, Oh, four weeks after this DK Metcalf saga, we now have DK Metcalf. It's like, uh, guys, the Packers have Josh Jacobs. The Packers have Xavier McKinney.
Yeah. The Packers signed Zadarius and Preston Smith. You know, it's like, where did this stuff come from? The Brewers traded for Christian Yelich. It's stuff that comes out of nowhere.
But then also being a part of the hyper localized machine. It's one thing for me tonight, talk about Trey Hendrickson for 15 minutes. If I'm in Cincinnati, you better get more than 15 minutes out of Trey Hendrickson tonight in a four hour show. I mean, this is an indictment on the Bengals and their commitment to burrow. And what is your March? You got it. If you're only getting 15 minutes out of this year, continue though.
I think the Bengals, if they re they bring everybody back, they might be my Superbowl pick. Whoa. They bring everybody back. Okay. There's more than 15 minutes there. Okay.
Yeah. So I just, I don't, I don't like when the DK Metcalf stuff was happening last week, what was even happening? Some guy, it's always some guy that we've never heard of. And then it's like everyone else that we have heard of says, can confirm interest in fucking fuck fucks. So I don't, I don't care.
I don't want to talk about it at all. I understand it's a part of the job more so for you right now than me. Cause I'm national big time, even though I bet more people know who you are than me. I'm so fucking irrelevant. My Lord. Different battlefield. Yeah.
I broke them. So I just, I just, I did like, but you have to, the rumor mill is of interest is a lot of people. And so you can be the conduit of that, but I'm just like, fuck, I don't care. So that's where I am.
So you're, you're of the mind. You wake me up when it's over. You know what I mean? Like if we get them, let me know.
If not, I'll just save, save my time and energy. Yeah. Like if someone I love is in surgery, put me out cold too, to wake up when they're done, honestly, that hits way too hard for me because that's how I feel that way. Like I don't, I don't want to, you got to wait for the doctor to come in and then you're judging the walk.
I can't even, you just caused a significant amount of anxiety for me because of how hard I relate to that. All right. I mean, I'm not kidding. Yeah.
That's the same thing. It's like, if someone's doing surgery, like I can't know just, I don't, don't tell me. Yeah. Just tell me like after like, Hey, there's a surgery. It went well.
Oh, interesting. Thanks. But yeah. My wife had surgery. I was in the waiting room with her parents and I was like, this is like how some movies start. Oh Christ. This is why people like us take the pills that we do. Or order the pills to your house and then think you're too good for them and look at them every day and say, not today, fucker.
And then live to regret it for the remaining 23 hours and 59 minutes. Yeah. All right. I'll be right back.
Okay. Follow me, ladies and gentlemen, follow me. This DK Metcalf thing.
I'm getting a lot of run out of this. And now that Trey Hendrickson is available too, it just gives another lane. You know, you could pick a lane really. If you're a caller, you could say, I don't want DK Metcalf. I want them to add to the defense. And up until this point, I've said, okay, but DK Metcalf is available. So that's who we're talking about right now. You know what I mean? Well, now Trey Hendrickson is also on the table.
So that's another avenue. Is he though? I mean, the Rams and the Bengals are not the same. The Rams have shown that they're serious about this thing. But even Max Crosby, Max Crosby was never not staying.
No. Uh, that was always wishful thinking, but a lot of sports radio is wishful thinking. So I, that was never as real as what DK Metcalf has become or now what Trey Hendrickson has become.
You know what I mean? Max Crosby, that's just off season fodder that we're kicking around. That's nothing more. The DK Metcalf thing.
And here's what I keep going back to on my show to try to legitimize whatever stupid rumor it is I'm talking about. Brian Gudekins, unprompted at his end of season presser said, it's time to up our sense of urgency. It's time to contend for championships. And then after the super bowl, we're all looking at the Eagles and how he Roseman like, yeah, that dude's a lot better than our guy.
Rob Damofsky puts out a story. That's like, guys, good. He's the man with the plan. This has always been a three-year plan for those of you who were excited about this year. Why it's always been about next year. And this is the off season leading into your three. So between what goody has said and what's been reported, this is the time this is the place.
I love accidentally coding, which I know you also do. It's the time it's the season. For DK Metcalf, he fits their measurables. They liked him in the draft. He enjoys blocking in the run game. He slots into Christian Watson spot.
And if I can ship out Romeo Dobbs in the process, fuck. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well about it. And the Packers have been tied to this thing from the beginning. So I think that's very real Trey Hendrickson. I don't know.
That's very fresh. We'll see what progresses there, but DK Metcalf. No, I don't think that's a waste of time at all. But if it doesn't happen, I think you get bogged down with, I don't also know where we need it. Okay. So DK Metcalf specifically. Okay. Do we like, he would be the number one receiver. Yeah. Deep threat. You know, guy who could, a guy who could definitely take the top off the defense, but is that a number one receiver?
A burner for sure too. I guess I'm asking, is he still a number one receiver? He wasn't in Seattle. Sure. He was.
No. Metcalf got four targets a game. Like the last set the last seven weeks, he didn't have more than four catches in the game. Last year was his worst year for sure in a while, but he's a veteran. He's proven you're not waiting on him for to develop.
He plays a role. I mean, how many true, let me ask you this then how many true number one, name all the number one wide receivers in the NFL off the top of your head that you can. I'm going to not do that. And instead, well, it's not that many. That was the whole point of the exercise is you were supposed to get to like four and then be like, I don't know. And then I'd say, see, is Devontae still a number one. Well, okay. A number one big picture.
And no, I don't, I don't think he's a number one, but I think he could make number one plays when number one plays are required. Let me go over what I always go over here. Okay.
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I have a number one guy on my team and he's the guy that I'm trying to like make his progression go. But I never throw to my outside guys because I only throw over the middle. I only ever run to the right and I only throw over the middle.
Okay. Or also to the right or maybe sometimes to the left if I'm crazy. I'm like an out. But so I end up using my slot guy the most and then I'm like, no, I need to focus. I need to focus on my outside guys because I only throw over the middle.
I only ever run to the right to focus. I need to focus on my number one receiver. I create my number one receiver into a diva. You just assume it.
You bake it into the way you play the video game. Yeah. Like I'm playing one with the giants and Wandale Robinson's getting 12 catches a game and Malik neighbors as two. And I'm like, I need to get the ball to Malik. So then as soon as I drop back and think about Malik, I'm always throwing interceptions because I'm always focusing on one guy and making sure he gets his. And I do think that Josh Allen, when he stepped back, thought, oh, I need it. I need to, I need to know where Stefan Diggs is.
Okay. There was a game that Stefan Diggs with the Texans, he was like six for 36, two touchdowns this year. And he was still pissed because he didn't get the ball enough. Then he got hurt.
And I don't know where the fuck he's going to go. But if I'm thinking that in video games, I do feel like when there is a number one receiver, what, when, when does that happen? And when does that not, when can you have a number one receiver and not like think of him on every play? Rogers clearly thought of Devante on every play. He didn't have anyone else. There was no, no one else doesn't think about Jefferson on every play.
Yeah. Cause Jordan Addison is fucking awesome. And so Jefferson's not a bitch.
It'll get a little, it'll get a little spicy. I don't know. He doesn't need to read a book on the sideline like A.J. Brown, but like, no, he'll show some frustration. I just, I don't know like that you need a number one receiver. I don't, I obviously number one receivers are great. I thought I just told you that I don't think DK Metcalf is a pure number one league wide. It seemed like you were concerned, like, is he even a number one? And then I'm like, eh, not really.
And now you're like, but when you have a number one, you have all these issues. I'm trying to figure that out too. Cause there's so much Devante back to Green Bay nonsense. This for guys at the end with Rogers, it was Devante Adams and a bunch of bums is strong, but like what's his motivation.
What's his angle. I got to feed Allen Lazard. I got to feed Malik Taylor. Remember him? I think that was his name. Like I you're going to feed the hell was even playing tight end. Then I don't know, Robert Tanya, like no one else was there. Look at my eyes.
The fuck happened to me. They look bloodshot. They do. And they're baggy as shit. They're more baggy than normal.
They're like being transferred to fucking Delta's hub in Dallas. Would you here's the, here's the topic I'm already seeing this for Joe since all the spark, you know, this Sparky know about that. That's it. He just wanted me to do that. Radio Joe wanted you to do that. Yeah.
And I couldn't find a way to fit it in good. So I just did it. Well, that, that much is very clear. Um, would you rather pay 30 million for Hendrickson or for DK Metcalf Hendrickson?
Really? Why do you say that? 30 million for DK the cap just went up. He's 27, 30 million.
I don't even know if I'm just asking the question, would you rather put the resources into one or the other Hendrickson? Why? You know what somebody asked me last night? They said, do these number one receivers even win Superbowls? I just told you, I don't even think he's a, a true number one. He's just a really nice piece in the prime of his career that fits exactly what the Packers need, especially now that imagine Christian Watson, but even bigger and even stronger and even better. And he doesn't get hurt. Like that's, that's what we're dealing with here. How active is his family on social media, dude?
I get so sick of his dad. Uh, I'll take DK if he promises not to try to wear number 14, cause that's retired. Well then that I'm sure it won't be an issue then. Yeah. I mean, if DK Metcalf became a packer, I would be excited about it. You should be.
He's very good. I also don't want to go through two months of if we mean, if that could be two months and if they don't get them, then we'll rip the Packers or we'll do the next topic. We'll go on to the next thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. So what went wrong with the Packers being in a spot where it was like, Oh, look at this guys.
Devontae is gone and that's better. Here's why. Uh, we've got six guys that are all number threes and by their powers combined, they are captain planet. Like what, why did, why did we think, who's that for? Who's that reference for? Whatever that's referencing.
What is that? Is that a Marvel thing? No, uh, captain planet was a cartoon in the nineties. Yeah. Okay.
So it was for you. Okay. Earth wind fire. Walt. Uh, I forget the other one.
Wind winds one. And then they'd make, and then the kids put their hands together and then fucking captain planet emerges. No, it's sorry. It does sound Marvel captain planet.
Um, I had a great run of comics in the sixties. I, I still really like Jaden Reed and Dontavian Wicks. I just don't think this is an off season for all the reasons that I already mentioned, what Gooty said and what we've been told it's year three, the plan it's time to have some urgency. You can't just sit back and say, well, we're just going to wait for the next season.
We're just going to wait for the young guys to develop. You can't do that. Yeah. So, I mean, that's answer any of these questions.
Um, I think Paul's original was, should we get excited about any of these guys? I mean, you can do what you want. I just hate being the conduit of it. And I personally don't want to see the sausage be made.
I personally don't want to have the conversation. I just add you work at a sausage factory. You literally work at a sausage.
Your job is to see and describe how the sausage is made and to engage with how the sausage is made. I know, but none of the sausage we ever make ever gets sent out for distribution. Okay.
All right. Um, I guess wasted a bunch of meat. I guess then I'm here to tell you that I, I think that this batch of sausage could be different. That's what they say every year about every sausage we make. This one's going out guys.
I promise. I promise the Randy Moss labeled sausage is coming out. Look, I don't have all of that PTSD. I don't, I don't, I miss the Randy Moss boat. I kind of remember Marshawn Lynch.
So I guess those are your demons that you have to battle. I think this could be different. And I think Packers fans are getting angsty demanding that it be different a little bit. And it fits the Packers timeline and all of the different reasons. I hate to just repeat the same stuff over and over again, but I think this off season could be different.
Maybe it won't be. All right. I got a question for you. Okay. Uh, and this is regarding a Bartle meter that I'm trying to put together okay. For Thursday's show from a national perspective.
Um, I don't know what to do for a Bartle meter. So I'm, I think I settled on, I mean, it's too late now. I have to, it's like writing an SNL sketch and it's Friday and this is the idea you have, and you better make it good because you got no more time. Okay. The teams that are most likely starting now, any sport to win multiple championships by the end of the decade.
Okay. And all I have right now is the Dodgers. So any sport most likely to win multiple titles, I think, and if they won this year, it doesn't count. So I kind of want to put Eagles in there still, but they just won. Are they going to win two more Superbowls as anybody? The NFL team that I was thinking of was the chargers, the chargers.
I mean, you can do what you want on national radio. I probably wouldn't step into that bear trap. Give me your reasoning though. I think that, you know, the playoffs, if they can get through the West and the chiefs go down and they can start to like get home field, they're never going to have to deal with elements. They got Harbaugh. They're continuing to craft this team. They're, you know, making sure they've got cap room.
I think Harbaugh, when he came in, that was kind of a three-year thing where it was like, okay, I'm going to Institute my team first or my style. Now I'm going to have to fit my team. So I do think by year three, they'll have a shot. And then I just, I guess I like their path because I think the chiefs are going to, I think the chiefs, I think the chiefs are going to miss the playoffs. You like the chargers path that goes directly through the division of Patrick Mahomes and the conference of Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. I think they're going to have to go through the division of Patrick Mahomes and the conference of Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Joe burrow. Well, the other team I would take is the bills to win the bangles, but you know, this Hendrickson thing, but I got it. There's got to be an NFL team in there.
I don't think Detroit makes a Superbowl, Dan Campbell. I'll say that. I think they've I don't it'll be really interesting to see.
I know this is a really like overdone take but it will be really interesting to see what he looks like with two new coordinators and you know what I mean. Well, yeah and then people are gonna say, well, Nick Sirianni figured it out. Hmm.
I don't think so. So, I think in the NFL, as Paul Immick returns, I've asked Grant about a barometer I need to get my **** **** gear on. I wanna take by starting now till the end of the decade, any sport which teams are the most likely to win multiple championships. Ooh, over the next decade.
I love it. Which is till the end of the decade. Oh, through twenty, including the 2029 seasons. Yeah, 2030. Okay, 2030. So, like five Super Bowls, five, uh oh. Remember that era of the Bart Winkler morning show where he just had a cough for like an entire year? Me? Yeah. Was that 2020?
Yeah, might have had long COVID. Alright, this is great. Which which ones are like what are we considering? Oh, in the NFL, I said Bills. I said Chargers. Oh. Now, you didn't just say Chargers.
That was the first name that came out of your mouth. And your and your point was if they can get home field advantage, they play in a dome but they don't have any fans and getting home field advantage means winning a division over Patrick Mahomes. That's uh. Then I said the Chiefs are gonna miss the playoffs. Yeah, I just don't think that that's like, I don't think that's that crazy.
The Chiefs missing the playoffs. I think that's. Why?
Really? A decent bet. Cuz I think what's gonna happen is there's gonna be like they had a nine and eight season. Yes. So, they're already on the down. Mm hmm. And if they have an eight and nine season, it's gonna feel so shocking but really last year, they had the downward season. Yeah.
It just didn't look like it cuz they didn't, they won. Yeah. That makes sense if you want it to. Well, I mean, it does make sense. That I agree with. If you want it to make sense, yeah. You're not supposed to statistically ever win that number of close games especially in the ways that they did. Like it's a statistical improbability.
The bills and charges are two really interesting. I think the Celtics should be on this list. I think the Lakers should be on this. Well, let's finish with NFL first. I don't even know.
Like that's Eagles. So, are we, again, are we saying starting now? Starting now so it didn't count.
What? Starting now. The race starts now. I don't care. I would nominate the Ravens.
I would nominate. Why are you guys so obsessed with all the AFC teams who are allergic to advancing in the post season? Cuz it's gonna, I mean, cuz you get a six-year window here. Cuz the Chiefs are done now.
It's open. No, they're not. I think. They're not even close to done. They're just getting started.
They're not even close to done. I'll take this bet. Um you know, Bart, you always say like you wish you'd put money on the things that you feel strongly about but you never do. Put money on the Chiefs not making the playoffs cuz you you believe this one strongly just like you have other takes that you've made no money. Like the Niners last year.
You you never put money on the things that you have bold takes about. Um I'm gonna nominate the commanders. Um they have a I mean they have a three-year controlled cost-controlled quarterback. Four if you include his team option.
So, they can build. And I had, see, I gotta think about this too, Paul. Where are my listeners? Okay. I got Buffalo listeners and I got DC listeners.
I don't have a lot of LA. The Marta meter is a machine. It should not care about this soft skill stuff. Dead factors in everything. Now, I'm gonna say it's not the Lions. I think they are.
Soft skills. I don't think the Lions make a Super Bowl. It shouldn't care about the human element of this.
It should just. Lions don't make a Super Bowl. They're they're gonna take. I mean, it's hard to not take a step back when you're fifteen and two but you can't lose both coordinators and then be like, oh, we're fine. Um I don't think the Vikings is I I just don't think it's that Homer to say the Packers.
Maybe it is. I can't put the Packers in there. I don't believe it. Not even in the top eight.
No, but Justin Herbert's gonna storm the the AFC multiple times. Oh, sure. Yeah. You know what? I I think my number one choice in the NFL is the commanders. Okay.
Um here's why. Like when the Seahawks were like in year two of Russell Wilson, I was hell bent that like this was the perfect recipe. They had a good quarterback, a very good quarterback with a young Russ that they didn't have to pay anything to for a long time. So then even if the the benefit that the commanders have versus those Seahawks is like you can also pick up that fifth year option on Jay and Daniels and yes, it gets more expensive in year five but it's still not like in present-day dollars, a 60 million dollar quarterback commitment. So, you can build such a good team and if Jayden Daniels is even a top ten quarterback for the next three to four seasons, if they build a good team around him like Seattle did with their defense and with some of the supporting cast, that is really that they've already come this far in his first year.
Again, I'm super sold on the idea of having a rookie, a rookie contract controlled great quarterback already and having a window to build around that cost control, I think is huge. I think the Bartle Meter could argue that. Sure. Okay. Basketball, you wanted to say Celtics? I just think they're not, I mean, I hate saying it.
I don't want to say it. Thunder, Cavs? I think the Thunder could arguably be the top team.
No, Grant's. Grant doesn't like these small market teams. I did complain on my show the other day that like, hey, man, I kind of want the, I'm kind of happy the Lakers are good. Like, good for the Wolves and the Thunder and the I'm going to put the Lakers in there. So, I said the Lakers and I initially branched the name but I would also say the Thunder should probably be number one on the overall list or the Dodgers. Dodgers are one.
So, then I'm going to put Thunder two. I don't know why. I'm not, I mean, do I even, do I even pretend like the NHL exists? You don't, well, maybe you need like one like Carlos O'Meara just to help you there.
Carlos O'Meara. Apparently, there's there's real rumors to Brad Marshand and Sidney Crosby teaming up on the Avalanche. Yeah, that like got me interested.
Have you heard about this too? Yeah. That'd be sick.
And then I'm like, what? When the **** is the trade deadline? And it's not till Friday.
Yeah, it's this week. What? How do we feel about, I mean, there's the unknown of when Banyami situation but there's there's there's spurs.
Well, yeah, if he doesn't die, I mean, people are like, oh, well, there's there's a good chance he'll survive this. What? Yeah, scary. It was up for debate. Have you really heard that?
Has that really been said? Yeah, people are like, oh, blood, these kind of blood clots. It's okay. These kind of blood clots are 97% survival. Oh my gosh.
There's 3% chance it's not? Oh, that's right. What about I was going to put for college football. I was going to put Ohio State.
Now, we've now you've lost me. I don't know how to answer college football. Because I feel like the big ten is we love the big ten, right? Oh, hey, by the way, another one you should have as I look at these NBA games that you should have put your money where your mouth is.
The Pistons making the playoffs. I know what the **** dude. That's a great take.
I thought it was nuts and you were right. And what I gotta find the show I said that on. I'm going to put the show for it other than nothing. Because Ohio State and the big ten like they're the only ones that are really acting like an SEC team. They're the only ones like and the SEC, you know, they're going to **** around with each other and now Ryan Day's got this monkey off his back.
He's just going to go ham. Ohio State has more money than all those teams in the SEC. He's more than the SEC team itself. Ohio State's on the list. I am going to put the Indiana Fever on the list. Are they good?
Are they terrible? If there's one sport where the commissioner is going to fix a championship, guys. Yeah. I won't complain about it. There's a lot of people that call in that think that think the NFL is going to fix this Dallas to Luca trade. I heard you have a pretty insane call the other night about that. I've got a lot. They're really I at one point I hung up on something.
I go, you guys are really testing my patience. Like this is getting absurd. The kind of calls that I'm taking. You you could be just that you could be the host that like hates his callers and like always just is at the end of the rope with him. It's kind of a fun, but also I'm the host that like I do feel. That I'll cosign that I am as good with callers as anybody in the game. You are I agree.
It's I'm talking any level. That's your that is your thing. That is your niche. So, if I create this new dynamic where I'm very inviting and engaging, but then if you look at me the wrong way, I go **** nuts on you.
Well, here. Can I just can I do an example of exactly that? Here's and here's the typical Bart Winkler show interaction with Barry in Boston. Barry says something crazy. Bart says, Barry, you're so dumb and then Barry says, I love you, Bart. Have a good night. I love you so much, man.
He was the dumbest. Yeah. Yeah.
So, there's like a charm to your, you know, yeah. What station are you on in Boston or does he just like stream it or something? WEEI. You're on EEI? Damn. For two hours a night.
It's **** sick. Yeah, I'm on, I'm on in Boston for two hours a **** day. Different planes.
Different battles. I'm on in Chicago for three hours a night. II tell you what. Don't you think one of these stations would be like, hey, you take up one eighth of our day's programming. Can we do something with you? I don't care what **** time of the day it is. I take, they give me an eighth of their day. This day which is so, you know, we gotta you can't. Oh my god. I I didn't get. Mom, dad, listen to the radio. I'm about to do my first update on WEEI. Meanwhile, I just stroll in there and throw my **** nuts out on three hours and it's no one gives a ****.
Barry and Boston. I'm on some of the biggest, most prestigious stations in this country and I am as irrelevant as ever. Let me. How? Well, I'll give you one way you could change that and that would be to promote your show on social media which you don't do. I ain't paying. I ain't paying 50 bucks a month for **** Twitter.
That is the extreme example. You could just tweet about your show once in a while. That's coming up.
I put up some reels the other day. Can you just let me run it for you? I'll do it for free.
Just to help you. Run your social. You're so bad at it. It's not that I'm bad. It's that I'm not doing it. That's bad. I shouldn't need to.
But it would help your irrelevance become, you know, somewhere. Tonight's show is on affiliates all over the country. Jimmy Fallon's got no problem.
He doesn't have to go and say, oh, I need to spend three hours helping my algorithm game. You know what? I bet if you go back to the beginning of Jimmy Fallon's show, when he was new, he did do that.
I'm not new anymore. Fallon took a lot of slings and arrows on Twitter this week for his interview with um who was it? I everyone is complaining about the video and I felt it would be too cringy to watch, but now I can't remember who it was. I think Jimmy Fallon's the worst talk show host ever. I am a Conan Stan. I like Conan a lot. I just think there's no one worse than Jimmy Fallon. It's so fake.
It's been fake the whole time he's been. It's just like everything is the funniest. Everything is the best. Just **** off. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.
Oh my god. I mean it's just inauthentic. It's gross. You don't have to like bend over for every single thing that your guest is promoting. It's like, oh yeah, I thought it was fine.
Oh, it was Jack Antonoff, which I think he kinda is whatever. Yeah, he makes music that sounds like oatmeal and I don't like I don't. Did you just like easy to digest? Is that what you're saying? No, do you? I don't even think you digest oatmeal.
Doesn't it just pass through your body? I don't know. I'll watch the clip later, but there's a large contingent on the internet that doesn't like Fallon and they'll mobilize when he opens the door for him. I saw it this week. Have you ever met anybody that like loves Fallon?
That's impossible. That's like oh. I did teach her in high school.
Yeah, I did teach her in high school. He would bring it up, but this is before Fallon took over. He's like I just think Jimmy Fallon's great.
I think he deserves a slot. I remember him saying that and he showed us his video where Fallon did this nerdy bit about the Gadsden purchase that strip of land in Arizona. I'll send it to you guys. There's one one person I actually can think of who like multiple times brought it up, but your point remains. Like the way that I go out and try to get people to watch Severance. People are not doing that with hey, do you guys buy the chant? Do you do you do you watch the tonight show? That I mean imagine it's also a bygone product from a bygone era. Here's the thing.
I think no hold on if you met somebody and that person you're talking about sports and you're and the conversation pivots too and that person says. Hey, have you seen the newest Fallon? It's really good. What is it?
What are they on Staten Island? If said person said that you'd be like well conversations like Jimmy did this bit with Drew Barrymore. Me and the wife were in stitches. You should have seen it man.
You'd have to end that conversation. We had to rewind it a couple of times just to get all the jokes. I just I just think I am especially even more than you guys like anti late night because I don't have these fond memories of Carson and Letterman when it was actually Carson's an asshole.
I hate him. I know you do, but you were at least around when the format was strong like I don't I don't have anything to grab on to like yeah, this isn't great, but I remember when it was this like you know my mom's best friend and babysitter taught me as a secret. Uh oh.
This is how old I am she goes she goes. I've mastered it where I can flip what they do on Leno and Letterman is they announce the guest like you can switch back and forth to see the guest so at 1036, she's like on Leno and it says Mel Gibson and then she goes to Letterman and says **** who in the 90s the other guy she times it and it's like Ted Danson like before TV guides and anything. That's how you would find out and then she decided which one to watch. I just it's it's the whole I understand they're there to tell a story or to do a bit and I understand there's a little discussion backstage like hey, how can I set you up, but it's just it's just so obvious even when it's good.
It's obvious. I think in the era of like long form podcast, so I understand you recently you recently been to the airport. Is that true and it's like you just got like this perfect story ready to go about the airport trip you made but don't you think though like I think the change grant. I think like what you're referring to I agree with and it's because we've gotten accustomed to this long form dialogue where you can just talk and it's authentic and it's real and you guys don't know my question. Sometimes I do one. Sometimes we do five. It doesn't. We don't know what topic it's you don't ask and you leave sometimes I don't even come back and it's fine.
But also but also. 30 seconds so people are either seeking out content that hold their attention for an hour true or that they can scroll 15 seconds true. Nobody's watching 8 minute clips of jack **** You're right. It is. It's either long or it's super short. You're right. It's a good thought. You should share that. That's what she said.
Referencing cock size. Alright. So what what teams are on your finalist list for the barometer? I guess the Dodgers, the Lakers, the Fever, the commanders.
Did I put another baseball team on there? Do I go Mets or Yankees? Celtics No. Never the Mets. Mets will never win ****. I think I think the Thunder the Thunder will peak. It's just maybe an unpopular opinion. I think the Thunder will peak the same way and in the same place that the 2018 2019 Bucks did regular season machine, but when things slow down and teams start trying in the postseason, I just I don't think they're good enough. Well, Peyton Prichard's scoring 40 **** points in a game.
Why is everyone? You know what? Okay. Go ahead, Paul. I was gonna say the thing with the Thunder is like as good as they might be now and are right now, they still have as many draft assets in this span that Bart's doing the barometer for than anybody.
They're still stockpiled. So like even if you wanna do something crazy like the thing I heard Bill Simmons say the other week like well, the Thunder should give up eight first round picks to get top pick and get Cooper flag. They could. Yeah, but no one will ever do that in the NBA. That's the problem. I disagree.
I think big big swing. I mean the the the NBA is where major unpredictable trades big swings happen more than any other sport, but I'm saying if you're a terrible team and your franchise like if you're the Wizards, I don't care if the Thunder give me a thousand first round picks. If I'm about to pick Cooper flag, that's the only reason I would call it this way.
The only reason I would take a thousand first round picks on instead of drafting Cooper flag is so I could turn around and eventually try to use those picks to acquire Cooper flag. You know what I mean? Well, I agree with you. Nico Harrison disagrees with you cuz like are the Mavericks ever gonna get a player as good as Luca as they try to get back to being as good as they were with Luca like they won't.
It's almost you're always looking for that. I agree with what you're saying. I'm just saying even without the ridiculous example of eight first for Cooper flag. They have so much to play with the Thunder to improve so as good as they are now if the idea is they can win two titles between now and 2030. How good are they in 2028 2029? What have they done with those picks and if they're as good with them as they have been in the past 5 years. It could be tough and that's why I like the wildest thing about the Mavs. They don't even own their picks. It'd be one thing if they had a lot of draft picks. I know they don't they don't the other NBA thing that I wanna mention.
Maybe you guys have seen this. I keep seeing segments this week, you know or like teasers from radio accounts on Twitter where it's like and coming up next so and so we'll talk about this. Why do I keep seeing radio shows or like I'll tell you why Jason Tatum can't be the face of the league. Who on God's green cock is out there trying to say that Jason Tatum should be the where's that coming from?
Why there's who are we pushing against? Should I should I draw you the straw man like well, I mean like I guess the Celtics people but like Jason Tatum is like the fifth best player in basketball fourth best player sixth best player like I'm I'm more comfortable with six than four but okay. I am as well, but I'm I just wanna be you know I'm not trying to be biased against the Celtics.
Have you guys watched Bill Simmons new Celtics documentary? No intention to. I feel like he just made that for himself and trust me.
I've done that with lots of content, but I'm also not on HP. He got presumably paid handsomely to put together something that he cares about more power right. Yeah, I suppose one last thing.
Do you think when all is said and done? The number one part of Devin Williams legacy is they got the Yankees beard thing to go away. Yes, he did that punched a wall got the Yankees to drop their facial hair policy. I would have tried to do it before shaving my face, but in his team picture, he had a beard.
I don't think he did did he he had at least a goatee with enough scruff to be where if you showed a kid and you were teaching them the concept of beards, he would say that is a beard interesting Devin Williams. All it took was one guy your tater tots are done. Boys appreciate you. This is fun nice to chat with you both Paul. Sorry you had to dip out, but I enjoy my time with you always yes same. I'm excited to hear oh Grant. Let me ask you this real quick before you go sure how many minutes of the next 2 hours of your show.
How many minutes is Trey Hendrickson probably 60 probably 55% Trey Hendrickson DK Metcalf Wow 20% badgers beating gophers and then a little NBA stuff. So you kind of answered my question that you might have answered when I was away for a little while, which is like pay it no mind or you're saying you're going to. I mean you're going to pay the hell a lot of mind.
Yeah. What why else do I exist? Why why does this room in this microphone exist if to not pay these things mind no, but wait though like I said sports radio wise pay it mine, but like Grant said I said I'm tired of waiting for the sausage to be made and he said you're a sausage maker.
Yeah you work in a sausage factory like I there. I don't know I said, but we're recalling all of our products. I've I've become less interested in what the correct topic is and I'd rather just do what's interesting and fun. I mean like today.
Maybe we should be talking about why are the Bucks so much better without Bobby Portis? I don't I don't know is that really moving the needle for 2 hours. Maybe a little bit. I'll throw it out there sprinkle it. You know, see if anyone bites see if anyone calls, but like I'm probably not going to lead with that.
It'll be football. No alright cool. Bye guys stick around for our patron only podcast in which we'll break down the Brandon McManus contract extension. Mm hmm. That's see the other day someone commented. They're like they just signed McManus. I'm like I already had McManus. What the what's already here and now he's here longer. What's the story? Gentlemen appreciate you bye bye. Thanks for stopping into the Winkler.
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