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30-27. Brandon McManus again. Jordan Love hurt. Malik Willis 3-0 when he plays. Josh Jacobs every bit the running back I told you he would be.

We're talking NFL. Halfway point of the season. We're going to bring in my little potato wedge. Toby Altheiser. It's been too long Bart.

Been too long. How are you? I mean I just asked you before but how are you for the general public?

Oh I'm doing great. I was excited that you brought me on to break down Brandon McManus. The you know a couple month commander's kicker and all the scandal and everything that went with that.

I'm sure that's what you wanted to talk about today. Well Packer fans did want to talk about that until he hit two game winners and now nobody cares. You know what they did though? They did that thing because he had a game winning field goal.

And I think it was Chris Brooks. But he went down at the one. I get it but I hate when they do that.

Um it depends. Score. There are certain. I mean there was one where I think Isaac Gerendo did it for the Niners and was like dude just score. Like for his first career touchdown a couple of weeks ago and he slides down at the two after breaking off a 70 yarder. Dude just finish in the end zone. Like you're going to go up by 13.

You're not losing that game. I don't know there are certain situations that make sense. Other ones just run it in. Dude I don't like the teams when they're down eight they go for two. I don't get it. I get it but then I don't. I understand it but I don't know what's wrong with tying the football game. I don't like putting yourself in a situation where you can lose when you should be tied.

Yeah I don't get it. I understand the analytics of it but I just I don't know sometimes these things go a little bit too far. I guess it's all about winning which is what it should always be about and that's how they're looking at it with analytics but I think you're also opening a door for an easy loss. Especially when you run a two point play like the Giants did where they decided to block no one.

So you know if you have a good two point play maybe it's a little bit of a different conversation but if that's the two point play you're going to run kick the extra point please. How much that game did you watch because I think Brian Dable was like acting mad a lot of the game. Well I mean they were getting screwed to an extent but that was one of the most boring football games I've watched in a while. So I had it on. I was watching the Wizards. I was watching the World Series. Kind of had everything going on. Wasn't necessarily paying the closest attention to that game and I don't feel like I missed anything.

Well I tried to watch as much of the Packer game as I could but it was during Trick or Treat. I went as John Hammond from Jurassic Park. By the way, fantastic costume. Fantastic. I did. I had a few people that were like, is that.

Is she trying to. Oh yeah. And then we had a little party in the morning for like my kids friends to just do pumpkins and then nobody like recognize me, because I did my beard white and one of my friends are my kids friends dad's is like, I thought you were going I thought you were like this other kid we know as dad. I go yeah that's what I'm going as I'm going as I'm going as Ted's dad. Then my neighbor didn't recognize me he's like, I saw you around your kid and I was like is this guy what's happening.

I mean I didn't feel like you were that unrecognizable I felt like you kind of look like yourself, just with a little bit older. I mean I still have white in the beard but to have a full white beard. I'm ready. I want it. I want it bad.

I can't wait. But so we're, we're walking around and trying to Trick or Treat and I got the phone. You know, yeah. So I saw the Packers go up 2717 and then I kind of put it away and then and then it's like tied and I'm like what happened because I figured it was over then it wasn't. Well, so at the end, I tell my cousins all the time diehard Packer fans I tell them all the time, you know, I don't watch every Packers game, like I used to, but whenever I get the chance watching Jordan love is just chaos. It's fun, but it is chaos, you never know where the ball's going it nothing's ever thrown from a normal platform, even a basic throw across the middle it's like Jordan you ever heard of stepping into a throw before versus fading away.

Nope. Everything is chaos but one of the best quarterbacks in the league is fun to watch. Yeah, I like it. It's like just on the line because any any more worse. And he's like the shittiest quarterback in the league.

But if it's paying off I don't mind. I don't mind throwing three picks if you're gonna throw four touchdowns and have 280 yards and win. It's literally like, I don't know, I always felt like, you know, there was maybe a combination of Rogers and Farve in there and you're seeing it this year like the, the bad parts of Farve, and some of the good parts of Farve and then the throwing mechanics and mannerisms of Rogers. He's got a little bit of everything, he's, he's fun to watch. And then Malik Willis comes in there and he's just nails every time. Honestly, my one thought on this Packers season was I thought against that Vikings defense which they ended up, you know, doing well in the second half of that game but I thought I would have just left Willis, because that Vikings defense is so weird that when they brought love back from the injury love kind of looked a little bit confused, like a lot of quarterbacks have looked against that Vikings defense this year versus if you would just thrown Willis out there again but you know they ended up coming back making it a game in the second half but I don't know, love was very accurate that day so maybe it was a little soon, but but how in the world's like it. This is where it gets frustrating with Matt LaFleur, because he's such a good coach, it's obvious because no one else can win with Malik Willis and make him look like a good NFL quarterback and a unique system. And then there are times that his team just comes out completely unprepared. I don't know what it happens week to week. And also, I love Jeff Halfley what took so long to bring in someone like that versus keeping Joe Berry around. That's the frustrating part.

Yeah, it's crazy. Malik Willis. Jeff Halfley Brandon McManus the reason the Packers are six and two, and where they would be right now.

If the playoffs were today, they would not be in first place, they would be the five seed. And the number two seed would be Toby's Washington commanders, which I don't know if you guys saw Toby reacting live. This is with Lionel Willingham, what's he called himself the youngest in charge or something, he calls himself the youngest in charge but I'm actually younger so one of the guys out here, former Redskins loves to give him crap about that.

That's funny. But, so we all know the Hail Mary. Here's Toby and Lynell watching the Hail Mary. Is he going to really help. What is he doing.

Oh, we're gonna get a holding penalty on Wiley. Yeah, I love that you said that. Oh my god.

Oh my god, took forever. No way. No way. You gotta be kidding me. Holy cow. See, this is what's great about this.

You can't be serious. Is that now goes to the ground. He goes to the ground.

And so you have to be the only one talking because then he just is like dead. And then he gives a stare stare is great if you guys saw the video, it was good I think it was a perfect. It was a perfect duo there Lynell's definitely the more flamboyant guy is going to be much more reactionary and I think the on camera he did a fantastic job with the reaction. I was still in shock. I was the reason you know I had someone giving me crap because I said something about Wiley getting a hold, and I was still mad that they were going to lose that game. Oh my gosh, they blew this they should have won this game like 15 times already. They're going to lose it holds, and then you know just the, the roller coaster of emotions for that game. Incredible.

Absolutely incredible. Well it's crazy because Jayden Daniels comes back shouldn't have been back, but he, he was back. And then you guys had to settle for field goals a lot. And then the bears were doing the dumbest things I've ever seen that handoff to the running back, or to the offensive lineman Yeah, made no sense it wasn't even like it wasn't even like there were there was just, it was, it was over complicated just to be over complicated then the way that they were defending the bears, then on the Hail Mary they're running a linebacker in spy on the running back, and then you have Stevenson cocking off to the fans finally coming back. And then no brown just like, and he like I thought he was gonna drop it.

Oh, I've watched that play 100 times and I know for a fact I would have dropped that ball like it was, it was just floating there I would have dropped it but I think what I noticed. You know, Caleb Williams I think could be a good quarterback but the coaching in Chicago is horrendous. I mean, they did this too they did this when they had Mitch Trubisky they ended up firing fields, and then they fire I don't know why they like they they're doing the mistake they always do. It's like everyone wants to give Ryan polls all this credit and boy if he has not gotten bailed out big time by some other bad organizations and things really just falling his way time after time after time, because remember he traded a second round pick for Chase Claypool, don't forget that. Also, he traded away the number one overall pick, and the Panthers took rice young, what if they took shroud. What if they had taken a winning quarterback and they had no chance at Caleb Williams like he has gotten bailed out. And then the, I think the nail in the coffin is like you said, why would, why the heck are you keeping Eber flus you already kind of understood that he was on his last leg if you're going to draft a rookie quarterback, just go ahead and kick the coach out get a new one that can build with him and Shane Waldron bringing him in as an OC. He looks terrible with what he's asking Caleb to do.

I think, I think you know Jayden's look fantastic I'm not trying to take anything away from Jayden but like cliff has put him in a perfect spot to be successful. You're watching Caleb Williams early in that ballgame. He's coming up to the line of scrimmage like calling out the play like he's Peyton Manning, he's a rookie, what are you asking him to do it's way too much. And I think Washington understood that so they started disguising stuff they blitzed more than they have all year. He looked uncomfortable all game long. I think he finished with 131 passing yards 95 on the final two drives. He was horrible up until those final two drives so I just don't think they're doing him any favors and, you know, obviously as a Packers podcast I'm, I'm pretty happy that Chicago still doesn't know how to run a functional organization.

This podcast is like the Bucks Toby it's got no identity. But you got to be feeling like obviously your team's good so that makes you feel good especially when a lot of this is a surprise and then you're getting these kind of victories. So where are you at, like what are you letting yourself think or are you just one week at a time. It's growing more into letting myself dream a little bit it's definitely more so now but it's still kind of one week at a time because of all the years of ineptitude that this organization has had but I mean they're doing what good teams have done really like they found a way to beat the Giants early in the year when they didn't score a touchdown they finished with seven field goals they win that ballgame. This Bears game was ugly.

I mean, obviously there's some luck involved with the Hail Mary but they found a way to win that one. And then when they played some bad teams they've absolutely destroyed them like it has not been close, and you look back and you know they're a player two away in Baltimore, and week one you lose to Tampa Bay it's a rookie's first start so you know I feel like they're doing what good teams do and it seems like the defense is starting to come around a little bit and I don't know, obviously not in Washington, I've never seen a rookie quarterback like this but man he looks so comfortable, it looks so just in control of everything going on it's, it's impressive because, and we were talking beforehand I got to go out to training camp and watching him out there and he didn't look like a rookie. But he's carried it over to the game field, and he's doing stuff that we hadn't even seen him do in training camp he just, he's so impressive, so impressive. Well, and even with him playing at LSU like I think people, you get so much more of a picture of who these guys are that and he won the Heisman and you know they're that he had high profile games, but it just feels like when you watch the NFL you watch it, you're maybe more, you're more in tuned.

And, you know, you see more highlights and it's more of the conversation. And I think that he's gone from like, there was just a lot of, I don't know, a lot of the attention was on Caleb and you knew he was good to go to, but he didn't, even with Drake May, you know, we're finding just you get a better picture of these guys, and man if we knew he would be this, and maybe some people did but I still think Caleb should have gone one but there's a lot more discussion on it. And, again, I think, you know Jayden has been, you know, so pro ready and everything that he's done, but it's also that cliff has just put them in a spot to be successful like the, the offense that he's running and bring this up all the time because it was a big talking point before that Monday night game against Cincinnati, when Cam Taylor Britt called it a college offense, and everyone viewed it as a slight but if you just watch this offense.

There's a lot of college style stuff that they run. It's a lot of options it's a lot of RPO stuff and, you know, Jayden is doing it as well as anyone possibly could, but they're not asking him to do too much and they've continued to throw more and more on his plate and it's not that Jayden can't go out there and be a regular quarterback like he goes out there and he goes through his reads and he does what's necessary but Cliff isn't asking him to be Superman he just, he gives him a bunch of options and Jayden has to make the right choice and so far he's made the right choice and a lot of them like I went back and watched the second half of that Cincinnati game where they had to score every single time they touched the ball to win the ball game, and they did. And the second half of that game there was out of all the decisions because every single run play that Washington has, there's a there's a passing option, you can keep it like every single one there's no such thing as just a simple handoff up the middle for Washington's offense. I went back and watched, and I was like, I think out of all the decisions run plays pass plays where he threw the ball to how he threw the ball.

I think there was one decision the entire second half I was like, maybe he could have made a different choice there otherwise it was like he was 100% like 95% of his decisions that half were perfect, and it's been that way all year it feels like it's with the exception of a, you know, a half here or half there once he's kind of got settled in it's his processing ability, his ability to go through his reads, he just looks so much more like a veteran than a rookie it's, it's been incredible. One of the things I've been saying is I don't think I think the league can like collectively miss on quarterbacks, in terms of what their talent is like a Bryce young, who's struggling, Bryce young, everybody had him as a first rounder everybody had him as a, you know some as a number one pick, and for good reason because he's good. I think a lot of times what happens is when these quarterbacks get in the league, and then they look bad.

I think it's the situation that you're in. You're seeing a lot of guys like Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield Geno Smith. They go somewhere else, and maybe it takes a long time but you see that they have success. I don't think you can just put Zach Wilson on the jets and be like, Oh, Zach Wilson's bad or put Bryce young or put Mitch Trubisky, and some of these guys don't pan out some of these guys maybe aren't as good as you thought but even like, even like Johnny Manziel and Jamarcus Russell like if you thought they were number. If you thought they were first round picks, and you only give them one team to try it with, and the team is bad. We just we i think i think so often we just look at the quarterback and say, Oh no, this guy, this guy sucks like Anthony Richardson 22 played five games. And now people are like, by the way, him getting lumped in with all these other quitters was garbage. He needed a breather. Big deal. I don't care about that.

I don't care about that. He's tired. I got him running around all the time. Running backs take a breather.

I just took a breather by asking you a long question. I think you're 100% right about this by the way like Bryce young. Bryce young. They brought him into a situation where he was going to have to be Superman and he's not that kind of a guy, he reminded me a lot of how to has to play and you remember to early on in his career was like, Oh, he's not very good. And suddenly you get the right play caller and the style of offense and you put some playmakers around them. And yeah, that can happen with any quarterback but you put Tyreek and waddle and what he's able to do with those sorts of guys versus what he had before, and the play calling and style of offense look at what to look like now.

And by the way, if you're doubting to look what the dolphins look like without to like they're not even functional. So I think his skill sets unique I think Bryce young is unique, and they just, they haven't found what he needs to do I think the only exception there is like a guy like a Richardson, you're taking a big swing hoping that the potential pays off versus like Bryce young there's plenty of college film. There wasn't as much so on Anthony Richardson, and then the other guys you mentioned like a Jamarcus Russell and Manziel have the, they have the talent.

They clearly didn't have the work ethic so if you get a guy that's willing to put in the work, and you've seen enough in college that they've been successful. Yeah, I think in general you're right that a lot of it comes down to the fit and style and then some guys just aren't going to work out sometimes it happens, like a Richardson situation I think you're more so taking a home run swing. And unfortunately it looks like the Colts swing and miss but I think with a guy like Bryce young. If you put him in a different situation honestly, if you plug him into the dolphin situation.

I think he could be successful that's why I almost felt like it would have been smart if they were, you know, considering like to a might not play again, then maybe you trade for Bryce young and just see if you can find something because I think he can run that style of offense where he's basically playing point guard, you know, versus trying to be the playmaker like some of these other quarterbacks are. The other team that we need to talk about here is the guy that we've talked about a lot back in our heyday and that was Aaron Rodgers with the New York Jets. I'm not even like taking joy in this from the Rogers perspective that the Jets are so bad. I'm actually bothered I always find a way to be bothered. I'm bothered and upset at whether it's New York media or national media. I'm like, Oh, Rogers takes it down to one all the time and they burn timeouts Oh Rogers is like a lot of work to cover because the rest of the when for 15 years. I'd ask these people questions and they'd say, Well, as long as you have there and Rogers, you'll be fine and I say no we won't.

He, we won't be and it's too much work. I was like, Oh, you look like they're discovering America for the first time was already been there. Yeah, I just, that's what I'm mad at so the, the Rogers struggling isn't bringing me joy. I'm really upset at people acting like they're finding out this stuff that Wisconsin new forever. And also, I think the Jets should trade Devante Adams again. That would be someone week. That would be something yeah I mean it's trade them going back whenever you watch the Jets it just reminds me of watching the Packers those last couple years with Rogers it's it's.

That's what it is it's one thing if, if it was working and even when it is working. You know you watch an offense now with the Packers you watch, you know I get to watch the commanders every week. And sometimes it is hard to move the football, but a lot of times when they're going well, it just looks easy right like I mean, Matt floor is getting guys open wide wide open across the middle you're running the football you're successful, moving to Washington, like I said running a lot of different stuff and it looks easy at times like almost too easy. And then you watch the Jets, and even a 10 yard completion looks like the hardest thing they've ever had to do. That's how Rogers looked in the end. It's hard.

Everything looks so difficult nothing is easy. And that's why they're two and six because they're putting more on Rogers his plate as he did with the Packers, and more and more is going on his plate. And I think the issue is Rogers still thinks he's 25, and he's not when he was 25 maybe he's able to make these offenses function and easy because I think, you know, it's one of those things you talk about all the time in your life like you know my dad still thinks I can do this but I'm older I can't write like I think his mind still thinks he can do all the stuff that he did when he was 2526 27. He can't he's 40 years old he can't do that stuff anymore.

And unfortunately for him. It looks like the worst offense you could possibly run because there is no offense the offense is Aaron Rogers and Aaron Rogers frankly just isn't that good anymore. Yeah, and I'm not even taking joy in it like last year I wanted to take join and being bad and I'm not even taking joy in it now thankfully Thursday night they're on prime time again and that'll be the last time. There is a Sunday night game against the Colts which I think is going to get flexed out and it might even get flexed out for Packers bears, like I know it's a, I know it's New York but can we please stop putting them in prime time both those teams are going to be terrible. I know they're on like every week twice I don't, I don't need to watch Daniel Jones again. I am so sick of watching Daniel Jones. I don't need to see table mad all the time I don't need to see Rogers, given the death stare to his sideline like I'm done with all that. Like, the Jets at least had Rogers and you're like okay people are interested, what what drawer the giants is that they're in New York, no one cares about them. I know and they like neighbor Malik neighbors is literally the only player that you care about like it used to be at least it's like all watch Saquon Barkley, now it's all your watches for Malik neighbors, that's it. Well I used to be a big shock head with Jeremy Shockey. Well I mean, if we're going way back yeah but recently. Shockey in prime time I know I got the chips and salsa out and I departed for now I will say if we're going way back Brandon Jacobs was fun to watch back in the day. Brandon Jacobs, I'm more of an Otis Anderson. Well now you're gonna pass my time. Yeah. Toby it's good to see you. Great to see you Bart always fun. Anything else that you need to get off your chest to these noobs that are listening.

Not that I can think of Oh, I will say this. I know the Bucks aren't very good right now. But my gosh if I don't miss cover in that team versus the Wizards. It's a it's nice to see an organization that has a good player, and at least has some aspirations, our general manager out here, said that we're still in the deconstruction phase of a rebuild.

We're still on the way down. What do we like what was what is a Wizards fan even go to watch. Nothing, nothing, there's nothing to watch. I mean it's.

There's a couple young guys. No one cares about coups. And you know what coups is like one attraction he said he's not even doing this year. He said he's not going to dress up coming in anymore he's not worried about it. He's game one of the year he shows up in a in a full gray sweatsuit like it was like what the heck I'm expecting some dumb looking sweater or some exotic looking jacket nope he just showed up in a full gray sweatsuit.

When did Valen Tunis get there. Yeah, signed him this offseason. He'll, he'll probably get dealt to the deadline. There's so many Wisconsin connections Patrick Baldwin Jr. Davis, Malcolm Brogdon I got to interview him at Wizards media day and I will say he spoke fondly of Milwaukee. Everybody's like, I always wanted to be a wizard.

This is a dream come true. Yeah, no, it was that he did say it felt like a homecoming because obviously went to UVA. But, I mean he guaranteed the wizard to win more games this year but I mean they won what 15 games last year so congratulations you win 16 that's more but he spoke very fondly I gotta mention Jordan pool. Yeah, another Milwaukee guy.

Yeah, there's plenty of stuff. Wisconsin related stuff out here. But yeah, there's no draw to the ways I mean it's such a difficult watch, I'm watching last night they're playing the Atlanta Hawks of all teams and three of the first four possessions were turnovers and they all look like they were running AAU play, it's just bad, just bad. Well, enjoy, enjoy, enjoy these bad days while you can have the cheap tickets in the apathy because someday I'm telling you those Washington wizards will be the talk of the town.

Yeah, let's not get carried away about that I don't know that someday they will. Toby good to see you buddy. Good to see you Bart. Well, we're gonna talk some wizards we might as well talk some bucks, as I was hosting, essentially a bucks postgame show.

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They had one. So last time we talked box they beat the Sixers, and I got to see a good majority of that game. I did get a voicemail in 402915 BRT the Carl's place voicemail line.

You can call it to 278. I got a message from hot take Jake. So it's about the bucks and also Paul image viewing of the games where he realizes pretty much only the fourth quarter is important.

Winkler verse What's up, it's your boy hot take Jake. In a minute, let me talk to you. Just a couple quick things after listening to the latest edition of with our guys, Paul and grant.

First things first, I want to talk about the box a little bit. Great opening night when honestly they beat up a team they should have beat up so good for them. But I just want to say if I never see Brooke Lopez shoot a three pointer again, the quality of my life will improve legitimately because when I watch him now when he squares in squares up to take a three square up he like rectangles up to shoot a three.

And then the laser beams this thing, and I'm literally just in despair, every time I see him raised for that shot so Brooke. I love you, buddy, but it's time to stop, just get inside the arc or at least just move the ball. Anyways, I have a solution for Paul's problem about watching an entire NBA game and just read until I'm just watch the fourth quarter.

No, here's what you got to do it, you need to amend your. I only watch live sports rule for that. Start the game, hour and a half after it was actually started like on your DVR. You fast forward through all the commercials all the stoppages all the free throws. When you get caught up to live, there will be like seven or eight minutes left of the fourth quarter it's live and you're perfect. Give it a shot.

I'm telling you I cracked the code on this thing a couple years ago, and it's perfect. That's all I got for you guys I miss the Winkler verse man the falls where you've been, man I miss you buddy. Q Stop taking stuff so seriously, Sean O'Connell you're the goat and Austin, man I hope you're sober wherever you are buddy, just kidding. Thank you guys all. Nothing but love for the Winkler verse.

Alright, I'll take Jake, good to hear from him. So he called in after the Bucks had won. I think that there's a lot of frustration with the Bucks since then they lost to the bulls which was kind of lame they lost to the nets I didn't see a lot of that one with it being Sunday, and the football. The Celtics they lost to which I was kind of buying a lot of Bucks fans were thinking yeah we might win this one. I kind of bought that too and then they had a decent first half. I saw a lot of complaints about Bobby Portis I didn't see too much of the game so again I just swoop in here and give my opinions on it. I saw but I saw complaints about Portis I saw complaints about Janus. There was one tweet that stuck with me Bucks breakdown says this might be an ugly finish but I thought the Bucks have played solid almost the whole night, rough stretch then the half from Janus but outside of that he's been solid Dame to Bobby's third quarter stretch was brutal they've showed me some things tonight.

I would normally be guy that says. The regular season. That's my imitation of myself, and it is in the regular season is pretty irrelevant I mean they are one in three and I don't think like, I don't think anyone's freaking out. Sure, sure no one's freaking out but what what I think Bucks fans are thinking especially if you've watched each and every these games and what I'd probably be saying if we were doing the postgame show is but this is this is not this is not it. Like, okay, the regular season fine, but they're better than this. Losing to the bulls. No, losing to the nets. Come on, the Celtics, owning you to the point where Peyton Pritchard knows he can just put up 28 against you.

I mean he. What is it with these guys that come in and there's like the Bucks are their team that they dominate. I don't get it, but it is fucking annoying if I may say so.

Myself. So you want to aim and be honest to get better together and I think in listening to what they said at media day like I think that their understanding of the assignment but it's just like they're a better team than this and I know Middleton's not back yet but they're a better team than this and they haven't played like it yet and again it is still early. Nobody's freaking out that they're not going to make the playoffs. Nobody's freaking out that they're not going to like the title hopes are dashed. They've got the Grizzlies coming up on Halloween. They've got a couple against the Cavs.

The Texans driving into apartment structures. Pretty good summation of the season up to this point. It's just this isn't this isn't this is better than this. This is I think I think because of how good they're supposed to be and because of like their performance on some nights and some nights you do bring into question their effort and they're getting beat. They're getting beat but if you're watching and you're like what is it just it's a waste of your time and I think that is something to try to stay away from. Again, I'm not I'm not I'm not, you know, worried so to speak. But I get it. If you're if you're a Bucks fan and you're pissed right now. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you how to fan on that.

Because it is it does it is it's just it's like lame like oh they fucking lost Jesus, that kind of reaction. This has been into the Winklerverse. Thanks Toby Altizer for stopping by again. The show the Bart Winkler show weeknights nine p to one a central and you can catch it on your favorite Odyssey station the Odyssey app and 1250 AM. The fan if you are in Milwaukee also many different stations statewide do enjoy that, including my hometown of KFIZ.

You should drive around Fond du Lac if you get the chance in the next week. The billboards politically. This is about 5050.

But they're fucking huge. Like, it looks terrible. The town looks like trash. The town already looks.

If anybody's in Fond du Lac. What happened to Johnson Street. Johnson Street was like the place where all the businesses were.

It was great. I think they redid it and now there's like no trees on there so it looks very desolate. Plus you have that shop go which turned into a big lots which turns into a hobby lobby which turns into a spirit Halloween. That looks terrible. Then they tore down the mall, and it's just a big pile of rubble and a Meijer store that's been rumored to be there since I was a senior in high school.

And then every vacant lot is just plastered with political signs and not like little yard signs, but giant massive signs for both. And it just looks terrible. But maybe it'll sway. I don't know. One week away.

I'd like to talk more about it but I also shouldn't. It's important to go vote. Bart just said it's important to vote 37 minutes into this podcast. I'm gonna go vote now. See, what's the point. Anyway, do vote. While you still can. This has been into the Winklerverse.