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I'm Bart Winkler. Ryan Horvat is here. Good to reunite with you. Been a couple of weeks of things going on, and I'm not even sure that we'll actually publish this episode, because guess what? I was having internet problems again, and so we'll see. If you're listening to this, what a treat.
Thank you, Jesus, for allowing this to occur. We'll go over the picks in the NFL, as we've been doing for years. There was a game last night in the least hyped return of a coach ever, with Sean Payton coming back. They're four and three, the Broncos. They're not good. The Saints are worse.
What a mess. Yeah, I wish Sean Payton and Dennis Allen could actually get in the same phone booth, like in Bill and Ted, and just evaporate into outer space. I hate both of those guys. Dennis Allen is the worst head coach in NFL history. Really quick, on last night's game, I only have one thing. Dennis Allen last night, they called a timeout with four seconds to go in the first half. I'm thinking, okay, we're going to let Spencer Rattler throw one in the end zone, try to throw a Hail Mary, because they're down in this game.
What do you really have to lose? They came out and they ran a quarterback knee. He kneeled.
Yeah, why did Dennis Allen call a timeout for Spencer Rattler to take a knee? It broke my brain, man. Everything I thought I knew about the universe in football was just right there broken.
It broke me, I think, as a man. Anyway, we're here today. We'll go through the picks. We'll go through them against the spread. We'll start with the Green Bay Packers.
How about that? I am talking to Horvat the week. We'll wait until we have the Jets game. The Jets made a move, but we'll fight about that later. All right, Texans Packers.
Packers do open up and come in. I've got them at two and a half as a favorite against Houston. Yep, two and a half. It actually moved to three. Let's call it two and a half though, because that's where I bet. I don't know what to think.
I don't know. It's one of those games where I'm trying to think if I was not a Packer fan, what would I think about it? Because I am a Packer fan, so I think, oh, they'll get the win. They're playing better. But Houston's playing well. This is the consolation bowl of teams that Minnesota has beat that are good. I think I'm going to just take Green Bay for the sake of the pick, but Houston can come and beat the shit out of us.
I don't know. Yeah, I'm excited for this game, man. I'm probably more excited for this game than any other game on the schedule, to be honest, just because it's like Houston might be a Super Bowl contender, or maybe they're not, because CJ Stroud, the team, they're a little bit too young.
They're right on the cusp. Then you got Green Bay, who, same thing, right? Longest team in the league, but I think both of these teams legitimately could win a Super Bowl. I think Green Bay is the better team, not just saying that because I am a Packer fan, because the last couple of years, I have bet against them.
I used to have a rule. I don't bet against the Packers, but you and I also pick them to win the NFC Championship game every year, and we were wrong, and then we'd be heartbroken, so I figured, why not profit off this bullshit in my misery when I started doing the actual betting show? I like the Packers, though.
It comes down to this, though. They have to protect Jordan Love. If Jordan Love's under pressure, then he's probably going to force some throws. Maybe we get some turnovers, but I think he could take advantage of that secondary, other than Derek Stingley. I don't really love the Texan secondary. The pass rush is really good with Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter and all those guys, but if they protect Jordan Love, I think he's going to torch that secondary. One thing that scares me, though, man, I think the Texans are going to be able to run the ball all day long. The defense is much better with Hafli, but we still can't stop the run. One good thing, though, maybe you could force a couple takeaways because they are number one in the league with 17 of those. I like Green Bay, though.
If this game's in Houston, I'd probably take the Texans, but at Lambeau, I think the Packers win. I think Jordan Love outplays CJ Stroud. I think Jordan Love's the better quarterback right now than CJ Stroud, and I love CJ Stroud. I think Jordan Love's ... He's up there, man.
Really? Because every time he has a turnover, you're all like... You're all tweeting something. You're all like, mm-hmm. Probably watching 40 different games. I don't just tweet about the Packers anymore.
Usually, if I'm doing anything like that, it's usually about Will Levis because I bet him every week, and he's a disaster. No. Oh, maybe the one that- The interception safety. Oh, God.
Yeah, that one. I was like, Jesus, Lord, what are we doing, man? That's bad, bad.
That's a- Do you mind? Well, one of the things with Packer discourse is people are taking some of these throws that he's made that have been touchdowns or completions, and then they're dissecting and being like, this was a stupid throw. Why did he do it?
A lot of them are. With Far, we were just like, wow. With Rogers, we were like, oh, no, no. He threaded the needle. He was brilliant. Now, with Love, we're like, well, this guy's a fucking idiot. Well, no.
I see. I like it kind of, and I think almost if you could do it and survive it and keep coming back and coming back and coming back and throw it for 400 yards and four touchdowns to those two picks, five touchdowns to your three picks, whatever, you win that ratio at least. In today's NFL, man, you're going to be in the games at the end, right? Like Mahomes, throw some brutal picks too, so and Far, same thing, right? I mean, you can't be out there throwing a bunch of picks if you're Mason Rudolph and those guys of the world, Will Levis, but if you're Jordan Love, yeah, that's kind of what he does. I'm not arguing that he's good. He does make some decisions.
Sometimes, it's like, whoa, but he also has the arm strength to be able to do so, so whatever. They're winning games right now. Jacksonville's a six-point favorite in London against the Patriots.
I mean, I guess I could see like Drake May having some insane game. Six points, I'm not confident enough in Jacksonville to have them take the six points, so I'm going to take New England to cover. Yeah, if I was going to bet this game, which I might not wake up for this game to be honest with you, I would only- Oh, I would never put real money on this game just for the sake of the pick. I think I'd bet the Jags. If the Jags lose this game, I think Doug Peterson has to stay in London or get his own flight back. Also, remember last year, they went to London and then they stuck around.
I think the travel advantage is a real thing. Last year, they beat the living shit out of the Bills. The Jags were never and will never be a better team than the Buffalo Bills while Josh Allen's still alive, regardless of what Rami says about Josh Allen. Josh Allen's awesome. By the way, Josh Allen- I'm not sure. I'll have to ask him.
I think he gave that up. Okay, 10 touchdowns. No picks for Josh Allen this year.
Yeah, man. I can only bet the Jags. They stuck around in London. The Patriots are awful. Usually, you could make the case for the Patriots even at post-Tom Brady because of their defense. Defense blows. Look what Rogers and the- I thought Rogers and the Jets were back for a while against the Patriots. Yeah, Jags.
Yeah, I guess they're wearing teal for the first time ever in London. Maybe that's- I don't know. I saw that stat and I need to eject it from my brain so I set it here in an appropriate time. Well, you should use that on the show tonight. People like that one. Yeah.
No, I think you're right. I think I will. I need a day off, dude. Five days a week, four hours a night.
Christ. I'm doing seven days a week. Why? Because I do the show.
I do the college show on Saturday and then Sunday I just do radio hits so that don't really count and I get to do them with Gelb. All right. The Falcons are four and two. They have the Seahawks who are three and three. I think a lot of people are going to say, oh, the Falcons at home. I think they're better but I don't think the Seahawks are going to lose four in a row so now we're at the point of the year where I'm not even thinking of just the game. I'm thinking of, well, they're not going to lose four in a row but I don't think they are going to lose four in a row so I'm taking Seattle.
No, I think that honestly what you just said, I think that that's genius, man. I mean, I bet games like that. It's not like, oh, they can't lose four in a row because teams could easily lose four in a row, right? But it's a desperation spot where Atlanta is feeling themselves a little bit right now.
They are at home. They're comfy in this game. They're top 10 in EPA per play so the offense is looking good. During this three-game win streak, Cousins has the most passing yards in the NFL with 970. It helps that like remember 500 came in one game. This is a good game for Seattle. They start three and now they're three and three.
The problem for them, man, they can't run the ball right now. Geno's dropped back 165 times. Nobody else has dropped back even close to that. Their offensive line isn't getting any push but I like that because I think they're finally going to be able to get Kenneth Walker going and if you play player props, I like him over 64 and a half rushing yards. So far this season, really quick backs against Atlanta. Chuba Hubbard had 92.
Tampa combined for 121 yards. Kamara 77. Carson Steele 72. Saquon 72.
Najee 70. I think they're going to be able to run the ball a little bit here. So I'm going to take Seattle. Actually, I like them to cover but I think they win this game outright. I said earlier that we do.
Yabba dee bop Fred Flint. I said earlier in the week that whatever the bills spread was, I don't I haven't seen it yet. I said, I'll take it and double it. So it's nine.
I would take it up to 18. I think the bills smoke Tennessee in un or inconceivable ways. So I hate to do this because you know, yeah, no, no, I don't even there's I don't think that exists anymore because Will Levis is an absolute abortion. But I like right now, I don't even want to talk about Will Levis.
I'm just gonna he has a 26.1 passing grade in the fourth quarter that might go down as the worst in NFL history. But uh, I actually I got to take them man. I got to take the Titans here. I think that plus nine, plus nine. I think that's too many points.
I'm not a big trends guy. But Josh Allen when he's a favorite of more than four points, 26 times in his career, the bills in those games 817 and one against the spread 32% of the time they cover. That's worse than sex panther where 60% of the time it works every time. So I got to go Titans here. And I think it correlates with the under so I bet the under in the game.
It's a low total 41 and a half. The bills offense is boring as shit. I know that they just traded for Amari Cooper.
I think that'll help but I don't know that he's learning the playbook and getting on the same page with Josh Allen and for this bucket coopers down there somewhere that shit. I mean, it could happen and I lose the bet. I mean, I bet the Titans four times this year and I'm all in for it's you know, the definition of insanity.
I keep going back to it though. I hate Will Levis that asshole. He throws a stupid interception. And then I see that a commercial where he's drinking mayo and doing the splits while doing yoga. I'll never understand how that guy got endorsements before winning one career game.
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He's got seven he got here in that one. I don't know what anybody says Brady deserves everything. And, and I think people need to be a little bit nicer to Brady while he transitions into the booth and also everybody's like freaking out because he also here's my opinion on this really quick. Tom Brady could do whatever the fuck Tom Brady wants. Okay, who are we to stop? He criticizes a guy in the booth. They're not gonna be like, Oh, Tom, you've lost your ownership and your job.
They're gonna be like, I really don't give a fuck. Tom Brady was married to the most famous model on the planet. She wanted him to stop playing football. Now she's banging the jiu jitsu guy.
This the guy with the sword on the beach. Okay, nobody's getting in town Brady's way, including Giselle, but I digress. We have the Bengals and Browns Nick Chubb's return has a lot of Browns fans at least maybe perking up for a little hope and I had a caller call me and talk about the Sean and and I look I've had to Sean in some fantasy leagues and I remember how good to Sean was he was like one beat in the homes one a it is over he is bad he will never be good again the Bengals will win this football game and they will cover this field you know why to Sean I it all makes sense right and I'm not trying to make light of the situation to Sean Watson is an absolute creep he is sucked since he hasn't been able allowed to be a creep anymore with the massage stuff that's got to be what it is because I've never seen anybody the only the only thing I could compare this to let him start creeping again and he's violating people I mean like it's like this though if like you know Rogers isn't no longer as good as he was you know when he was 26 because he's 40 right like Peyton wasn't good anymore because his neck went to shit Breeze got old like Deshaun Watson is 27 years old and he can't play football anymore he was a top three quarterback in the league and he can no longer play the only the equivalent to this is in the hit film Space Jam 1996 when the Monstars stole the powers of the NBA players and they just couldn't play anymore I mean his foot where I he sucks for the head football line either sucks or they hate him and they're Willie Beeman them yeah what about what about Rookie of the Year maybe the guy hurting his arm was Deshaun getting Rookie of the Year and then and then his arm and he got hit again and then remember he threw a 30 mile an hour fastball yeah when he has to when he when he has to toss it up and he strikes him out maybe the worst fucking moment in movie history right you're facing a big leaguer you throw that shit up there like it's a beanbag and you K him in the biggest game to win to win the pennant like get out of here and and he's a Chicago Cub so zero percent chance that's ever happening to do except for in 2016 love you Brizzo what game oh yeah Browns cover though somehow Nick Chubb comes back Browns may win the band that Brown's theory well no it's there's rational and then there's now the NFL always throws you some curveballs and this would be a curveball game even though the Cincinnati's not got a great record he's gonna come back he's gonna be rumbling from let's let them blend into the end zone Nick gave me a job when he came back and he rushed for 220 yards everybody's like oh they're gonna limit his carries maybe but he's like if one dude two could come back from all these injuries it's Nick Chubb remember when Adrian Peterson would come back and he wasn't like beating the shit out of his kid with a switch and he would come back and he would like get two torn ACLs all eight he's got to be finished and then he'd gash us for like 185 yards yeah cults and dolphins cults are three-point spread who's starting Anthony Richardson so you already know what this is right the Dolphins are gonna win this game outright they the Colts want to go with Flacco clearly dude I think that they I think it's probably one of those things where Shane Steichen the head coach is like I want to win games so I want to go with Joe and the management probably goes on the Browns they'd be foreign to right now yeah probably I don't know man that offensive line really sucks I think the Browns might just be a bad football team but yeah so I actually love the Dolphins in this game I bet the Dolphins plus three if Mike McDaniel's as good as we try to make him out to be like they got to win this game or at least cover he's had extra time to prep right I get no to uh but Tyler Huntley has another you know another week to get involved in the offense here so I like the Dolphins I will ride that with you the Dolphins made me cry made a bye last week right so yeah so that's what I'm saying like Mike McDaniel listening to me you know you'd see you'd hear that yeah I was just confirming oh yeah yeah a lot of people like the Lions to go into Minnesota and win the spread I've got it only a point and a half in favor of Minnesota I think this is one of those games where I can totally see the Lions going in to win and probably would ride with it but too many people are saying that and I do think and I know there's some stats that is like Sam Darnell it's gonna happen he's gonna suck I all these years that the Vikings would be like competitive I'm always like yeah but they're not as good they're good I'm going to take them to win yeah I hate to say it man because I'll always hate that franchise even though like we talked about it they're hard to hate right now because I love Aaron Jones and I love Sam Darnold still go pack go but I like the Vikings in this game to remain undefeated and also to the Sam Darnold haters here's my Horvat hammer boom play of the week Sam Darnold oh you bring the boom yeah I do I love those guys do you know what you do yeah are you are you a fan of them you bring the boom we do am I a fan of them yeah what do you think you probably hate him I fucking love those guys okay good yeah me too I love the what's the kid's name again I'm losing my mind the Rizzler the Rizzler yeah Jesus yeah love that kid anyway so Sam Darnold over 245 passing yards put it in your bet slips right now all right so he struggled week five against the Jets secondary but then they had their bye week also the Jets secondary really good you know and Darnold was a little bit dinged up now he's been able to get a little bit healthier and the Lions just lost Aiden Hutchinson for the season he's the NFL leader in pressures seven and a half sacks even with him and he was going to win defensive player of the year I bet that so of course he just couldn't stay healthy the Lions were 30th and pressure rate as a team their 12th in the league at blitz rate you can't blitz Sam Darnold he's number three in EPA when blitz also Sam Darnold struggles a little bit against zone defense but he's much better against man defense 68 great against man 57 against zone against man defense 12.1 yards per attempt against man that goes down to nine yards so I love 245 passing yards I think Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison both go over their receiving yards and the Vikings win this game yeah that's a bummer they're gonna Jesus Eagles and Giants I'd like the Giants I I think that they suck I thought Brian David would be first coach fired Robert solid took that so they're not good but Philly I think is I think Siri I like they got a there's all these coaches that should have been fired last year after the season and now you're gonna start to see them get fired as the season goes on it's so stupid yeah I think I think I think the Giants win come I keep I think the Eagles still are gonna be good man I still think there might be them would be I picked them to win the Super Bowl so I'm not ready to write just the other day pick them to still win the NFC East I mean the problem is that idiot Sirianni he shaved his head like he's Edward Furlong he's like going crazy that what why is Mike Vrabel not the head coach there I know that's a perfect fit honestly I would can Sirianni right now because I think he's mentally unstable and I would I would appoint Kellen Moore head coach I think Kellen Moore can be good I just think that he always has to work for these these dumb fucks like with all due respect to our guy Mike McCarthy that are like like don't really they shouldn't be in charge of teams anymore like if you want to argue me like I these are the days where I miss working with Gary because I know that he would be defending Mike McCarthy right now while Dallas is just going right down although you know it's more Jerry that team just sucks and we'll get to them anyway but yeah never buy we actually won't oh well they're a mess yeah they're an absolute mess yeah Jerry classic rich guy where you think you just like if someone's involved in your life you think you can fire them yeah but classic classic rich guy I do think that's Eric Mangini had that on first things first where he's like look Woody Johnson was with his friends from being an ambassador he got embarrassed so he fired Robert Salah I believe that yeah the man genius anyway I'm with you on the Giants though plus three oh you are taking Giants yeah I'm taking the Giants I think the Eagles are gonna be good but right now they're not a good football team and I never thought Brian table is gonna get fired I think he's really good like look what he's had to work with now they have Malik neighbors and Malik neighbors is back this week I think he's gonna have a monster game so yeah Giants Giants might win this game the Rams and the Raiders who both used to play in LA the Rams then went to st. Louis moved back the Raiders then went to Oakland and then moved to Las Vegas this game is pretty gross Rams are a touchdown favorites yeah god this huh we're I can't believe we're already at the point of the season where games are just so utterly disgusting yeah I couldn't bet the Rams minus seven though so I'll just for pick sake take the Raiders plus seven I'm not I have no yeah that's the Cubs back that's cool yeah all right next commanders eight-point favorites over what over the Panthers that's a lot I think the commanders I I think they learned I think like that was a loss that against Baltimore that they're like all right well we lost but we are good I'm gonna take them to cover the eight you know I'm gonna take them to win but not cover but shout out to our guy Toby who I ran into last night in the bathroom at work I agree I agreed to go on his show tomorrow at three o'clock so if you're in the DC area or you want to pop on the Odyssey app check out Toby here in DC he's on all day tomorrow he's doing work with Virginia Tech killing it by the way not Virginia Tech they blow but Toby is killing it and I would never ever agree to go on anybody else's show on a fucking Saturday during college football except for you Toby and PJ glass or those are the only people I say yes to but I'll be out with them that's too many points though but the commanders are fun man I I want to I might start buying some Jayden Daniels apparel since I live here I like him Toby I gotta get a Toby appearance back on the show I'll do that in the next couple weeks yeah Niners and Chiefs oh love this game you love this game I'm gonna take regrettably the Niners yeah me too Brady's on the call too it's gonna be awesome I uh here's the breakdown Super Bowl revenge game and it's in San Francisco they lost on a walk-off touchdown I think the Niners even though they have their own issues and health problems right now or the healthier and better team uh yes San Francisco wins Kansas City first loss this season Kansas City though the thing I always say about them is they have my homes well they've got all these things that are going on around them that would crush any other team if they have my homes but you could turn you can turn here's the thing about the Chiefs at the risk of wading into any waters you can turn on the Chiefs and you could see oh there's a Chiefs player on Amazon Prime hosting a game show oh there's a Chiefs player on NFL Network oh there's a Chiefs player on the Patrick Mahone show oh there's a Chiefs player on Fox News oh there's a Chiefs player that just got arrested oh there's a Chiefs commercial it's like there's how much can you throw at this team that would be distractions for others and they're just like I don't know we put on the jersey we don't give a shit yeah but that's probably what people were saying about the Dallas Cowboys in the 90s and they weren't just like you know hanging out with Taylor Swift they were like doing booger sugar and like getting caught on high-speed chases and stuff but there's something to be said for that like I don't think this Chiefs team has the best they don't hang out all the time I mean Mahomes and Kelsey do and that's yeah you know I don't think Kelsey's washed either I think he'll retire early but I think I think we still got a big eight touchdown year from Kelsey coming up yeah well he's just like you know eases into the season he's there for the playoffs it's like it's like how the NBA is right some of these guys yeah yeah that's the Chiefs are Chiefs can win 11 games it don't matter right like last year proved that they led the league in dry loss of the Raiders on Christmas I was like well they're done yeah no they're gonna win another haven't lost since yeah all right Jetson the Steelers I can forgive I you know what it's funny I kind of think I don't like Devante more than I don't like Rogers why because Devante was always a diva in disguise he was always a diva in hiding he's gonna come out yeah I know but then he then he's like oh I don't like this the last dance Instagram yeah that pissed me off then he goes to the Raiders somewhere safe and familiar with this college buddy he gets hurt and bad and leaves now he wants to go somewhere else he's back in New York the way that Rogers was on McAfee and goes and then Devante comes in like it's an SNL cameo Grant has a tweet that's gotten a million views where he says cuz then Rogers crashed on Devante on Kay Adams is like honey we're expecting it looks like they're doing an announcement and that's that but that's what they like that's what they're doing I love it I know somebody I saw somebody tweet how special are we as Packer fans that we get to watch this Packer team as good as they are as young as they are and we can still watch Rogers to Devante I'm not I don't want to see that I do I do I like watching great players like I'm not ready for those guys to retire I enjoy good football I enjoy good it's gonna be awesome it's Rogers and Devante back together I'm excited for it hater I hope we get Packers Jets in the Super Bowl right I mean and if the Packers don't win the Super Bowl I want the Jets to win the Super Bowl I want Rogers to get it I mean I want the Packers to win it every year they can't I want Rogers to get one more I like Rogers still 2 million views yeah that's good that's good that is funny that is a that's hilarious too I like I like Devante I like Rogers and I like my J E T S because they're winning they're winning 10 games still I need that I need that ticket to cash so I think they lose this week though and then they go on a run no I don't that the Steelers are gonna tank this one if Russell Wilson's starting which has been like the number one topic on my show this week because I'm so mad about it why why what are they doing I keep saying that Tomlin is friend zoning Russ because he keeps saying things like that aren't definitive like oh he's working his way back it just feels like I've been working my way back to you babe I think what happens is everybody they're just like some none of the Steelers want Russ to play dude they're gonna let him get sacked and shit I don't know I mean they're foreign to football team that's why I don't know what they're doing you know I'm taking the Jets I'll take the Steelers all right Monday night the Ravens a three and a half point road favorite against Tampa yep I've taken Tampa yeah I kind of am too I think Baker is just gonna throw another four-touch downs yeah me too I think I mean like the Ravens as good as they are right now they're number 27 in the league defending wide receiver number one so I think Mike Evans is gonna carve him up and if he doesn't Chris Godwin's going doing the slot Tampa's at home here Ravens are on a run this isn't like a huge game for them I think Tampa at least covers Tampa's for real Baker's for real so Cardinals and the Chargers Cardinals are two and a half point underdogs at home it's a double Monday night game they're on ESPN plus I am going to go with my new Cardinals theory where they win games that nobody cares about or yep so I think they're gonna win this game dude exactly right like the Chargers are a good football team but they're like boring ground and pound Arizona's probably I mean I know their defense is good right now but this seems like a game Arizona finally wins I'm with you and those are our picks Bears and Cowboys have to buy yeah yeah in college I think Texas beats Georgia but I think Georgia covers I think Bama probably beats Tennessee cuz Nico e Maliava is just not ready for this oh Tim Tim Shea says he does a parlay with his dad five bucks every Friday or every Saturday I told him to take Miami Bama and Texas I think they all win and I said cover but you know more than me well here I'm a nice guy if anybody hears this before Friday night at 7 p.m. I like Florida State plus 3 tomorrow I like Nebraska plus six and a half oh do you like him to win no I think I love Indiana man I can't pick against that team that's a lot of points man I think this is the best team they've seen and a really good defense I like Auburn plus four and a half I think Auburn beats Missouri Auburn's like top 20 in total offense they just can't stop turning the ball over Missouri's a disappointment I'm taking Michigan over Illinois they're going with Jack Tuttle he could actually throw a forward pass Maryland plus seven and a half against USC USC loses in heartbreaking fashion they had a two score lead they lose in overtime now they have to make a trip here I kind of want to go to that game but there's way too much football on to miss Arkansas is gonna be LSU Texas like I said wins and yeah that's what I like in college this weekend oh and Kentucky my number one bet Kentucky's beaten Florida dude Florida without Graham Mertz not great Bob Graham Mertz turned into a real quarterback when he left Wisconsin this lagway kid I think is going to be good but right now he's got like two touchdowns four picks so Kentucky it's Kentucky theory beat Ole Miss lose the Vandy yeah right now they'll go into the swamp and win this game for sure there is a Kentucky theory yeah you're right that because they've always something with those little Appalachian states yep it's like they'll never I do like that Nebraska Indiana because that is a classic Big Ten Network who gives a fuck game now I like when those kind of games are like but dude if there's one game you have to see it's fucking Nebraska Indiana yeah that's probably going to be game one on my TV I think Indiana is the better team though and I think that they have the better quarterback and Curtis Rourke I know everybody wants to talk about Dylan Riola because he's a weirdo and he thinks he's Pat Holmes Curtis Rourke he was a really good Mac quarterback he just he had some injuries and then also dude we shout out to Indiana's head coach Kurt Cignetti one he's a badass he got the job he's like oh these buddy right in Google me and then he just brought over like his whole JMU super team and now they're just beating the living shit out of all these mediocre Big Ten teams I can't wait to see what they do against like some real competition here though so excited wait who is McCarthy's buddy Frank Cignetti McCarthy yeah he was the quarterback coach for a while Frank Cignetti in 2018 he was the Packers quarterback coach Frank Cignetti yeah and his coach he's at these oh he's the offensive coordinator at Pitt right now Frank yeah but that so Kurt's I was thinking you said Kurt Cignetti I was thinking okay so they're brothers though they're brothers yeah yeah he didn't have the good one though no but we had him in 2018 yeah that's the year he got fired though McCarthy uh yeah I think it was wasn't it I had to have been whoops all right Horvat good to see you buddy hey great to see you man Go Pat Go big win this weekend Go Pat Go we'll talk to you next week peace