Week 3 NFL Picks Against the Spread with Ryan Horvat

Good morning, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler. Ryan Horvat is here. Welcome into the Winklerverse.

We're brought to you by Happy Place Hemp. Promo code is BART at the checkout. We do our NFL picks against the spread. I don't really keep track. Horvat does.

He makes a lot of money. I don't really actually bet. I did a DraftKings lineup last week that got fucking slaughtered. I was going to say, you do bet, though.

That's included in betting and wagering. This week, I'm stacking Panthers, so that'll be a disaster? No, don't do that to yourself. Oh, yeah. And last night, I made a lineup. I thought the Jets would run a lot. I thought the Patriots would run a lot.

That did not happen. The guy to play was Aaron Rodgers. And as I was on the air, I'm breaking down this Jets team. I don't want them to be good.

I don't want them to be good. But it's not because of Aaron Rodgers anymore. That year off was everything for me, because now I watch Aaron Rodgers succeed. I'm not happy. I'm not mad. I'm undaunted. It's like he was never even my guy.

The number change went a long way. The guy I don't like is Robert Sala. And I would like to give you... Well, Rodgers doesn't like him either. I know. Here's my description.

Here's how I described Sala last night. You know when you grow up, you run with a pack of neighborhood kids? I had eight people on my block, roughly the same age.

You could go outside, three of them would be out there. You were always playing. You were always able to do something. And you had a group.

But then there was always this other kid with you from four blocks over, who no one knew how he got there. He wasn't invited, but he thought he was a part of the team. Sometimes he thought he was the most important part of the team. It's clear the Jets are doing all of this independent of Robert Sala.

He is the kid from four blocks away. But your boy Aaron Rodgers, great last night. So Sala's good running the defense though. The problem is Nathaniel Hackett stinks. But yeah, nobody wants to hear me talk about Aaron Rodgers. I'll say this though, man...

I think today they might actually do. Well, the first two weeks of the season, I was a little bit worried that he was even going to be able to move in the pocket because he looked like a statue. But last night he had that bounce. He left the pocket a couple of times.

He was making throws on the run. I am cheering for Aaron Rodgers. If the Packers don't win the Super Bowl, I want the Jets to win the Super Bowl.

That would be my second choice. I love Aaron Rodgers. Everybody knows that. I see a picture of his head right behind you on the YouTube. I enjoy watching him play football. Last night, that was fun.

That was awesome. Allen Lazard out there catching touchdowns. I cheer for former Packers wherever they go though. As much as I hate Minnesota, I'm cheering for Aaron Jones. I don't want to see him get hurt. I don't want to see him fumble in big spots. I want to see him succeed.

It's a business at the end of the day. As a kid, I'd be like, Aaron Jones is in Minnesota. I hope he snaps his effing leg.

Then you grow up and you're like, I don't want that to happen to him. He's a good dude. He's got a family. He's just playing the sport that he loves. He would have preferred to be in Green Bay as Aaron Rodgers would have preferred to finish his career. It's different with the quarterbacks. So why do I have to hate Rodgers or Aaron Jones or anybody? All these Giants fans that were celebrating Saquon's drop the other night.

That's so weird to me. I would not do that if Aaron Jones dropped a ball in Minnesota. I mean, yeah, you want Minnesota to lose. But the way that they were, they weren't like, ha ha, screw you Eagles. They were like, ha ha, screw you Saquon, who wanted, and we saw the phone call.

I'll say this really quick though, dude. It also depends what kind of career they had and how they left. Rodgers always said he wanted to finish his career as a Green Bay Packer. Right. And then they drafted Jordan Love and it was time for him to move on. And so I don't hate Rodgers.

Right. Aaron Jones wanted to retire a Packer, Clay Matthews. So like those guys, when they go on, I don't hate them. Now, if you're like Zadaria Smith and you pretty much quit on your team and then you go and you're running your mouth, I'm not cheering for you.

Then I will cheer if you drop the ball or if you something happens, you know, I mean, you know, like everybody loves Brandon Bostic now and stuff. I don't, I I'll never forgive him. I had to look up. I couldn't have told you for a million dollars where Clay Matthews played the last year of his career Rams, right? Yeah. I could not have told you that he had one decent. I mean, like his problem was, well, I'm not going to say I, I, I think all those USC guys were, uh, were taking droids.

I mean, I know half of them were cause they got pot for it. Maybe Clay just worked really damn hard and gained all he had eight sacks in his final season. 13 games.

Yeah. Clay was a baller. Clay's a, I love clay math.

That's what I'm saying though. Now, Greg Jennings, I cheered for him to drop every fricking pass. Um, I don't like the way that he left, but most of these guys, I just, I like him as Packers. Devante Adams. I love Devante Adams. He's on my fantasy team. Oh, I have 10 teams. So I only have two.

I'm, I'm pretty, uh, sporadic all over the board. Um, I, we both have a favorite team. That's the green Bay Packers. And as we look at some picks, we'll start with them. They've got the Titans this week as of this posting, probably as of the next day, probably right until kickoff. We don't know for sure if Jordan love is going to play or not. Um, there is, I think a large part of us that are, I don't want to say twisted, but I'm like intrigued to see a Malik Willis revenge game against the Titans, but the Titans right now are three point favorites. Yep.

I mean, we're baked in the possibility that Jordan love might play. Yeah. And also I think the Titans are pretty bad. I have to, I, Oh, okay. But now we're in. Okay. Oh, I think Titans theory is dead by the way. Is that it? Or do we agree?

So I don't, well, yeah, the theory may be dead. I don't think they're bad though. I think they have one glaring hole or one glaring weakness. We'll talk about talk in a second.

Go on. But he beat out our guy who will Levis what? Who's our guy Malik because Malik fricking sucks, dude.

Malik, I bet Malik last week because nobody knew what the hell like Indianapolis had no idea what green Bay was going to do. And I knew Matt will floor would be in his bag because even though we get mad at them at times, that will floor is the top five head coach met before might like Matt will floor Kevin O'Connell Shani, all these, like all the, uh, all the yuppies, all the football yuppies are awesome. Right? Like this Kyle punk too frickin too frickin much on fourth and one at midfield.

Yeah. Like is McVeigh a little bit of a goofball, but they're awesome. They're all really good in the floor. If you give them extra time, me and you, he could have, we would have won that game behind center. Like Malik, look at his aid out in that game. Like he wasn't really pushing the ball down the field. He had a couple of nice throws. I bet Tennessee on the money line. I don't think Tennessee is a bad football team. He's going to win this week.

I just think Levis sucks. Here's here's where Tennessee would win this week is throw interceptions. Problem is Packers drop pick sixes now. That's like part of our thing. Yeah. So we're going to definitely drop a will Levis pick six, like the Titans.

I think it comes down to this. If it's Malik Willis, now there's tape on Malik Willis. Now the Titans got all the tape.

The Titans got a library. Like the Titans should be much better against the run than they've showed the first two weeks. And they've been decent, but um, I think that they'll commit extra guys in the box and force Malik to beat him with his arm and probably just match up their DBS one-on-one in coverage. That's tough to do against green Bay though.

I'll say that because their wide receivers are so awesome. But if Malik can't get them the ball or he's under pressure, they might be F, but I think that's what they're going to do. They're going to shut down Jacobs. They're going to shut down the run game and say, beat us with your arm, Malik Willis.

And I bet Tennessee. And if it's Jordan love, I don't want it to be Jordan love because I don't think that there's any chance that he's close to a hundred percent. And I think green Bay could, if they lost last week, it's a different story, right? If they're O and two right now, but right now, even if you start one and two, you can win 10 games, I think, and make the playoffs win 11 games. I don't want to risk Jordan loves future either for, for one game against Tennessee.

You know what I mean? Like I have nightmares of RG three, some of these guys playing through injury. We don't want to lose them for the rest of the year. Cause there's a good chance. You're not going to play.

You're not trending that way. No, I'm thinking Malik's going to play. And I'm thinking that Tennessee's defense is actually pretty good. Look at these games they've lost. They've lost because we'll, Levis is a nightmare with the football week one. They had a 17 point lead against the bears. The bears didn't score an offensive touchdown in that game. They lost because we'll, Levis wouldn't stop throwing the ball to the other team and special teams week two, they should have beat the jets.

Actually. We'll let us throw up all over himself again. So it was so bad that Brian Callahan, I do have to swear here because they showed it right on the broadcast. Levis throws this terrible interception. They show Callahan and he goes, what the fuck are you doing? And I had money on the Titans plus four. And if you cut a video of me on my couch, you would have saw me say, what the fuck are you doing?

So like, it was like the Spiderman meme. Levis is so bad, but any other stuff, how much does stay in Callahan? Like he doesn't even hide it. He fucking hates this guy. He said after week one, if we would have just punted on first and then we would have won that game.

And he's right. Cause Tony Pollard has been awesome. And that's what scares me. Green Bay's run defense is still a little bit of a mess. So I think it's going to be like Tony Pollard and Taji Spears running the ball down our throats.

We will is throwing up all over himself. I hate betting against Green Bay. If Jordan loves the quarterback Packers by 30, you're making a really compelling point to do it. Yeah. I mean like Titans are at home, right?

There's more tape now. Cause I think a lot of Packer fans are coming from the angle. Well, we, we, we won now we can do it again. Yeah. That's what makes betting hard, right?

I'm going to, I'm going to bet that I'm going to go like the market's telling you like, why is Tennessee a three point favorite? You know, nobody, nobody thinks they're good, but they actually are kind of fucking good. The problem is we'll, Levis is awful. He's bad.

That experiment. Like there's certain guys that can't play. Bryce young sucks. He can't play.

I'm sorry. Right. Mitchell Trubisky could never play. He sucked.

Get him out of there. Justin Fields. Everybody was always like Sparky would always be like, Oh, you said Justin Fields is good. He is good. He's in an offense right now where he's, I mean, he's doing all right. Like he is good.

We were right about Justin Fields. He could play now. He's not Joe Montana, Steve young.

You're not going to drop it. He's not Aaron Rogers. You can't drop him back 40 times, but why can't he be Lamar Jackson?

Why can't he be, you know, like some of these guys, you just have to put them in the right skillset. Daniel Jones sucks, but he doesn't suck as bad as everybody thinks he sucks. He's thrown to garbage men. His offensive line stinks.

Like, you know, last week, which is a seventh grade social studies teacher. Like everybody always told me, Oh, you were wrong about Sam Darnold. He sucks.

Does he, or did he play for the jets? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, Geno Smith, does he like, does he suck or people, people wrote him off and he did it right back. I have COVID. I'm going to be Homer and take the Packers. Yeah. I'm gonna pick against them. I mean, uh, you could at me when they win and I'll be making this bet now.

Or do you wait until you know about love? I pissed the bed on this one. I went like pretty hard on the Titans thinking that there's no shot that loves playing and there's no shot. Malik's going to look like that. And they're just going to stack the box. You already made the bet. Yeah. I'm already in on tennis.

Much better. I wouldn't bet them at two and a half. This gets to three.

I'll probably bet some Packers, but I bet Titans money line minus one 20. Yeah. All right.

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There are more games. I hate that we're at noon again or one o'clock your dumb time, but, uh, giants Browns here's here's. So I think the giants, I think dables the first head coach fired. There's a chance that the giants don't win before things, uh, not Thanksgiving, but Halloween. Um, the giants have the Browns and then Cowboys, Seahawks, Eagles, Eagles, Steelers. That being said, I think the giants are going to be the new benefit of Titans theory. Yeah.

I think it's now becoming giants theory. This team sucks. Their coach is awful. I am not confident enough. I've got six and a half on the Browns, right? No, sir, no, sir. So I will take the giants to at least cover in this game. Yeah. I'm with you, dude.

Um, I'm going to wait. Cause I kind of wanted to seven. I think the giants might win this game. I mean, we neighbors broke out week two, 129 yards through the air other than Saquon, Daniel Jones has never really had a playmaker and weak neighbors is awesome.

He can legitimately win rookie of the year and right. Like the Browns in current form should not be laying this number to Sean Watson. You know, if you look at the numbers last week, okay, you look all right.

But even you ever 5.5 yards per attempt. I mean, I'm not sold on their offense winning this game by margin with all their injuries. They're beat up on the offensive line. Jack Conklin and Jedrick Willis are out James Hudson right now, 65th out of 71 qualified tackles over at PFF. He's a mess and they miss Nick Chubb. Obviously a Mari Cooper looks like he's either lost a step or him and Deshaun just can't get on the same page. And you got Deshaun Watson right now 31st and passing success rate.

The only quarterback that's, uh, that's lower bonics Sean sucks. So yeah, dude, giants, the bears head to Indianapolis, India, one point favorite. Um, here's where I think the bears messed up or bears fans, at least after not wanting Caleb Williams and then seeing a little bit of him play well in the preseason. Then the bears all of a sudden went, Oh my God, Caleb Williams is great. And we're going to win 11 games. They needed to approach this season.

Like Packers fans did last year. What do we have in Jordan love? We don't know.

We'll find out. And then as the season went forward, Jordan love was good. And we're very happy in the beginning though. We didn't know when there were some games where we're like, I don't know. Was he good?

Was he not? We're charting every pass. Yeah. With the bears. I think they'll get to that point. Now they're there line needs to be better, but I think they'll get to the point where they're like, okay, Caleb, Caleb's good. We're happy.

This is fine. Cause the same way we were on Justin fields, I'm continuing to be on Caleb Williams. Um, but I think they lose this weekend.

I I'm going to go with the bears actually. I think you need that. They're going to go.

Oh, and three. Yeah. I think they might just be bad dude. And I like Shane Steichen. I think Anthony Richardson unfortunately might be bad. And I say, unfortunately I like, I don't have a dog in that fight.

I don't care. It seems like a good kid though. And I haven't seen him as my fantasy quarterback in one league. Luckily I got Kyler in the other Tyler. But uh, I think, I think they might be bad in the bears.

I think Caleb is going to play all right this week. And I think the bears have a pretty damn good defense. I think they might be, I think the bears might get real lucky this year.

Like be one of those teams that's top five and takeaways. Like every time the bears are good, they win bullshit lucky games. Like don't get mad at me, but I have this weird feeling they may win more games than us.

Like since love's all beat up and like they're going to get these, like, you know why I think that? Cause week one, Caleb, both weeks, Caleb's look like shit and they're one in one and they actually covered against the Texans even. And they're doing it because of their defense. Take like they again, going back to the Tennessee game, they were down 17, nothing at the half. Their first points came because Caleb should have thrown an interception. He threw it into double coverage.

It bounced off a dude's helmet. Like in Madden, when you quit into Rome's hands, he fumbles. It bounces like 10 yards and then Tevin Jenkins dives on it and they kick a field goal.

And that's how they get their first points. Then they block a punt. It's like, I just feel like they're going to be a lucky ass team that you hate this year. So I'm going to pick the bears here.

All right. I took the Colts. But if the bears, this is going to, if however the bears do that on the side of their season, if they win this game, all right, there are 10 win they're just going to win these fucking games.

Yeah. And if the Colts way, if the bears lose, okay, maybe seven or eight, but I do think Caleb's going to be good. Me too. It's just a matter of getting there.

Can I say something like maybe this is a hot take too. I want him to be good and I want JJ McCarthy. I want to like these divisional games to be good. I mean, it's fun just beating the dog piss out of these teams every single year. It's kind of like my high school Joliet Catholic though.

Yeah. They go nine and Ola every year. You went to Joliet Catholic. Never knew, but they're playing like these dog piss teams, like Marist and like, you know what I mean?

And we're, they're going out and recruiting and like Bolingbroke and Lockport, they're playing these like, you know, other public private schools with like 50 kids anyway. But that's how I felt about the Packers, you know, with Rogers. I mean, it was a great run, but then we would step up in class in the playoffs and play a team like the Niners.

And it was like seeing a deer in headlights. We'd be like, Holy shit, we've never seen a team with talent before and get curbed 48 nothing before we made a run in the second half. You know what I mean? And I feel like if we actually played real teams, that wouldn't have been the case. Maybe that's just a hot take, but yeah, we beat the Cowboys every year, but then we go against the Niners and they beat the shit out of us. And it's because we're pounding Kirk cousins twice a year, Mitch Trubisky twice a year, Stafford, you know, but not with like a real team around them. So I kind of want the division to be good, right? Um, yeah, there's part of me that agrees with that. A lot of Packer fans would say no, but it's also, you know, it's fun to get invested in these games. Yeah. Like, you know, I don't want the bears like ever.

I want to continue. No, I want them to be good, but I want us to win. I want them to be like 10 and Oh, and we're 10 and Oh, I want them to think, Oh, finally we're taking on the Packers and then they lose. There's like, hear me out.

Like, was there, okay. So like beating the bears on a Sunday where Aaron Rogers is just running up to their fans and being like, I fucking own you like old hat. Well, you know, it was more fun when we beat him in the NFC championship. Jay Cutler didn't play in the second half and we're going to the super bowl and they're drinking their sorrows away and we're celebrating and then be in the shit out of the Steelers two weeks later, you know, and they're at home watching us, you know, they're watching the pregame coverage and it's, it's Clay Matthews getting interviewed, not Rex Grossman or whoever Jay Cutler.

Yeah, that, that feels better. So let them be relevant. So then they get their hopes up and then they get let down, you know, like the Vikings. It's, it's so sweet when they actually are relevant and they get to a championship game and then there's a hit out on Farve's head and he's doing all over the place.

That's more fun than them just being the six win team. You mentioned your high school. I want to talk about my hometown for a second. Oh, Arrowhead. I don't remember where you went.

Fond du Lac. Oh yeah. And I want to show you the most bonkers radio lineup that is out there today. My hometown station where I used to work.

Okay. K F I Z. What do we got here? Where we go from Sean Hannity in the afternoon to the news to KFIC sports night with Chuck Freeman. I'm in on that to Mark Levin. I don't know who that is. Uh, he's like Hannity only Whiney or somehow.

Oh, the Rams. Dave Ramsey is like, that's a Dave Ramsey to Bart Winkler. Look at this bonkers lineup. I love how frames is in there for a half hour.

Oh, frames is frames. This show is great. He interviews like local legends and I'm not gonna lie. I got really excited. I thought that said Nick Van Exel was out at noon. Nick Van Knocker. Not as excited. No, Nick, Nick is not doing morning radio. Green Bay Packer fan though. Yeah, well he's not doing morning radio in Fondy.

He should, he should be. If there's some of these guys are not going to name any names. Butch. Um, there's another AFC South NFC North matchup. Three of them Vikings at home against the Texans. Vikings a two point underdog. Yeah.

Skull. Do we think the same thing on this game? I think Minnesota is going to win this game.

Yeah. I think we think the same thing on this game. I think Minnesota might be the team that we should be worried about. Dude, Kevin O'Connell is a really good, I think I rooted for them to beat the Niners and that it was a mistake. I don't get, I don't care.

It could be, it could be ISIS against the Niners and I might be rooting for ISIS. Dude. I hate that fucking team so much.

I do. How do you, that's the one team I always will hate. I know they're all hurt and Purdy's going to suck so bad. I told you about the Seahawks, man. I told everybody, just like I said about the Bengals, they've been too healthy the last couple of years. These deep runs, they're not sustainable. Look at the Green Bay Packers, you know? So I only get a couple of them.

That's why you got to capitalize. Um, yeah, I think that the Seahawks are going to win that division, but I do think that the Vikings are good. I really don't know that they win the division. I still think that's the lions. Like they just had bad luck last week.

They went one for seven in the red zone. But, um, I, Brian Flores right now is in his bag and I think CJ's job might throw a couple of picks in this game. And Justin Jefferson's plan, man, and Texan secondary, not all that great other than Derek Stingley.

And I don't even know how good he is. So yeah, I mean, hate to do it, but school, I'm taking the Vikings along with you. Um, I don't really have a read on this one cause I'm not, I dunno. If you look at the Eagles the last like two games and then back to last year, they've lost like six of their last eight, but then the saints all of a sudden I thought they were bad. And then they beat up on the Panthers.

Okay. But then they beat up on the Cowboys. They're two and a half favorites against the Eagles and the saints.

I say this on my show. I'm like, I like you guys. I, I hate the Niners. I tell people that I hate the Niners, but I have reasons for it. I don't like the saints and I'm not sure why.

Is it because they play on a carpet in that? Do I hate the Superdome? No, you have reasons why you hate the saints.

I got a couple. I mean, Sean Payton was their coach forever. He's a real piece of shit. Um, I think Pete Carmichael sucks. Can we agree on that? So I'll never, cause here's the thing I'll never hear the argument ever that bill Belicheck or Tom Brady, you know, is the reason Belicheck had those rings. They needed each other bad, but Sean Payton has a Superbowl ring and all those career wins for one reason and one reason only. And it's Drew Brees. That's how good Drew Brees was with Drew Brees. He was seven and nine, three straight years.

And Pete Carmichael, Pete Carmichael sucks. And we're figuring that out this year because there's no new weapons really, man. Right? Like she heeds all of a sudden.

Awesome. Derek Carr is playing like the MVP of the league and it's because Kubiak knows how to run an offense right now. Derek Carr is thrown out with play action, like 50% of his drop backs. They're using more priests in that motion than any other team in the league. They're using all the cheat codes for Derek Carr.

They're moving guys around. That's what you got to do. Like, that's why, that's why Mike McCarthy had to go away and learn the relearn the game. Right. And that's why Matt Leflore came in and won 13 games, three consecutive years, preset, like this stuff matters, man.

Yeah. And so now all of a sudden they've scored 40 points. I like the Eagles though, to cover the three, because now all of a sudden we're pricing the saints, like a top five team in the league after they beat the crap out of Arrowhead high school and the Panthers week one. And then like they honestly, they should have won that game against Atlanta. They just threw up all over themselves on that drive play and prevent coverage.

And Kirk cousins had wide open guys to throw to. So I still think the Eagles are going to be fine. It would be a lot better if they had AJ Brown, but give me Philly.

We're getting Philly plus three. And now the narrative is they suck. Cause Nick Sirianni now Nick Sirianni does suck.

He's like Kellen Moore and Vic Fangio. And I do think like the Packers, the teams I think are going to be much better than their current form Green Bay. Cause I think it's going to take Jeff Halfley some time. Although I worry that like quay sucks and some of the pieces run deep. A lot of people are worried about quay. I think quays just bad.

I think you got to find his replacement if not this year next. And then I think the Eagles will be much better. That's a really young secondary. I don't know though those three dudes from Georgia on their defensive line might suck, but yeah, give me Philly. Plus three. I'm not ready to go there with the saints and Dennis Allen quite yet, but they look good so far.

If it's three, I would run. I would take the Eagles with you, but I'm still thinking the saints might win. Yeah. I think the Eagles win this game. The take that I had on the Steelers was that Mike Tomlin's getting so bored of just being better than 500 all the time that now he's trying to do it with Justin Fields and Russell Wilson.

Yeah. Steelers have only scored like 31 points, but they've only given up like 13 or 16. They have the chargers at home. They're a point and a half favorite. You got Harbaugh against Tomlin. I think this is one where I ride the home team regardless. So I'm going to go Pittsburgh.

Me too, dude. And I feel like everybody's going to like the chargers here, but I think they're going to be in JK Dobbins. Like Justin Herbert has two straight weeks where he's went under 150 passing yards. I never thought I would say that it's the hard ball seeing JK Dobbins.

He's not scared of JK Dobbins. That's what I'm saying, man. He's got the most rushing yards though. The first two weeks in chargers history.

I was shocked to see that with, with, with Amy and Tomlinson there all of those years. But like I said, the chargers not really throwing the ball, not pushing it down the field. And like you said, the Steelers, I mean, they've seen them and their defense when TJ Watts healthy, they're a top 10 defense and through two games, I always look at yards per rush before first contact. You know, and I like to see really what the offensive lines are doing, if they're actually getting pushed. Cause a lot of these guys, you know, like some of these guys, the offensive line sucks. They're just breaking tackles all over the place. But through two games, the Steelers defense has held running backs. Bijan Robinson week one, 0.7 yards per rush before first contact ridiculous Denver's running back 0.5. Then you saw what Bijan did against the Eagles.

It was like 4.3. So I just think that that's a really good defense. And Mike Tomlin owns Greg Roman. So I'm with you. I like the Steelers. Steelers might end up messing around and win that, winning that division with Justin Fields.

And I have a hot take. I think the plan always was to start Justin Fields. I think Russell Wilson's healthy, or he's just the goofiest son of a bitch on the planet.

He's signed, he dresses full suit when he's inactive. I mean, in the photos he had, uh, he had the eye shit on. I go like, what are we doing? If you're a fan and you wear a full costume to a game, are you actually less douchey than an inactive player still suiting up full on the sidelines? Isn't that a little more douchey from... I would never be the fan that dressed up, but I get a kick out of it.

I usually end up getting drunk and taking pictures with those guys. I don't fan shame, but I do. I do shame the quarterback that's supposed to be hurt that's sitting there in his helmet. Like that reminds you of the kid in high school that is never going to play, but he like thinks that he's the most important part of the team. And it's like, be cool with it. But like before the game, he's coming up and he's like slapping you in the fucking helmet and the shoulder pads.

And you're like, guy, all right, I'm already like, I'm good, man. Like get out of my face. That's Russell Wilson.

That's him on the team flight doing three step, five step drop backs. Like just chill out. I hate it. I don't have room in my heart for hate. Even like weirdos that send me text messages, call me a liberal. Like I don't even hate them and I'm not a liberal, so I don't get it.

And how did they get my number? I just want to toss that out on this podcast. But I do hate Russell Wilson for everything that he's done to my life. And I hate that Seattle Seahawks team. I no longer hate the Seahawks, but I do hate that version.

Earl Thomas. I'll always hate Richard Sherman. I'll always hate Pete Carroll. I hope he chokes on that fucking gum. I hate him. But Russell Wilson, I hate him.

One of the lowest points of my life. I hate that I have to bring it up even. But when I was sitting there in tears and he was saying, well, Jesus Christ, God wanted me to win this game. I'll never forgive him for that. He's the corniest SOB on the planet. And I hate Russell Wilson. I hate him.

And I'm so glad our guy, Justin Strawberry Fields forever won that job. You think it's bad people got your number and are texting you. I some, some, some assholes trying to take out a loan in my name the last two weeks. Yeah, but that happened to me too.

I would rather almost have that. I appreciate the hustle of somebody out there trying to scam me out of a bunch of money. I don't appreciate somebody like texting me about Trump. You know, like I don't even have like, leave me alone. I don't tweet about this shit. I don't tweet at all.

Me either. I hate Twitter. You tweet all the time.

I don't. I retweet my promotion tweets. No one even tweet. No one, no one tweets for me. I did tweet out that I was going to beat the, beat the Colts.

And I was right when everybody else was writing the Packers off and they weren't writing back. Kind of like, I haven't felt this irrelevant my entire career and I'm on a national show kind of how it goes. Right. It's a better feeling when you're local. Yeah. You feel the connection in the grocery store. Yeah.

National. I mean, you're talking to some truck driver out in like Tennessee. That's awesome and all, but like, you don't know him.

You're never going to, you know, he don't give a fuck about you. Yeah. Like the collars. Like I had really, I had like, I had like drinks with the collars, you know, like me and shit. I met cone roller and at Lambeau field, we took shots together.

And one of the other guys, I can't remember which one because I don't, I can't keep up with all the names. I got to meet cone. Yeah. I love him.

I love cone. Yeah. All right. So we took some shots.

I don't remember what shots we took though. He's really tall in real life actually. Or maybe I'm just fucking shrinking that. Yeah.

I think both. Yeah. Fuckin here. It's six and a half point favorites over Denver. Oh yeah. I got to take on this game. Okay.

I don't know. I don't really have a breakdown, but Denver is going to win somehow. So we're in this time of the year where, because it's only been two weeks, a lot of opinions are like, like, that's why I think the giants are going to win because the giant's opinion is so like, okay, they fucking suck, but then they go and win and same with Denver. So this is, this is definitely a spot where they can win, but I, I'm not, I, I'm going to take Tampa and to cover. No, I'm not. I think, I think that they're going to come back.

This seems like a perfect spot too, right? Like they won last week as touchdown dogs against a good Detroit team. Now they throw up all over themselves. I'm going to go with Denver here. I, it sucks. It's on the road, but yeah, give me the Broncos at least the cover.

Plus if I'm going to use my, you suck, but you're going to win ammo. I'm going to give that on the Panthers six point dogs against the Raiders in Las Vegas. Am I crazy to think Andy Dalton's throwing three touchdowns?

Yes. See, cause Bryce, here's the thing with that. And this is what I said they should have done. He might not throw one. Bryce young should have, first of all, to get a new quarterback coach, new coach, new scheme, reteach your footwork new, new offensive coordinator, one series in the preseason. It's okay to use the preseason.

Yeah. So they should have played him the entire preseason and then said, okay, do we like him? Is he ready? If not, we'll sit him.

We'll inverse red shirt him. There's no big deal, but the plan for two weeks and then bench him, the Panthers aren't benching him because they think Bryce young is bad. They're benching him because they think they have a shot at the playoffs. If they salvage their season, they are wrong, dude.

I think they might be benching him. Cause I like legitimately, right. It's almost like you love your, you love your son. Like right now, my son wants to be a WWE wrestler.

I would never actually really want him to do that profession and break his neck or anything like that. I feel like they may be benching him to save them. Yeah. Like I think like I've never seen a quarterback legitimately in the NFL want to cry when he threw that last pick, like tears were coming down his eye. He looks nine years old out there, tears, dreamed down his face. Tyler's like a fucking baller dude. And he's like thick, you know what I mean?

Like Bryce looks like, like your little brother out there. Um, he can't play the position. He's cooked. He's done. He might be, I really mean this.

I really mean this. He might be the worst quarterback in NFL history. Like, and we had, and we like, look at our guys like tolls in like, you know what I mean? I think he really might be rubily. Look at his numbers compared to Jamarcus Russell.

We shit all over. Jamarcus Russell had better stats. Compare their numbers. The first two seasons. He's awful. Like if you don't, if you don't have a ticket and you only watch the red zone channel, you probably don't know this because you've only seen them like three times. They never crossed the 50 yard line.

Yeah. Three and out after he sucks. I can tell you this cause I bet that team probably eight times out of the last two years, they, he's the worst quarterback I've ever seen in my life.

At least the worst top pick. You know, we're in this era now where Sam Darnold's getting another chance. Baker gets another chance. Gino gets another chance. Yeah. Um, Darnold, did I ever say Darnold?

Yeah. Car gets like all these guys are getting another chance. He won't, but I feel like Jamarcus Russell should have gotten another chance. I think the problem was he was, he was drinking the purple drink and that like they were sending them home with film and he wasn't watching it. The T like the talent could have been there.

Right. I mean it may have been there with Ryan leaf, but he was doing drugs and breaking into cars and stuff. Johnny Manziel.

I have this take. I think Johnny Manziel would have been a pretty good quarterback in the right system. Like Johnny, these guys could be, but they go to the wrong system and it's like you only get, you only get one shot. Manziel was drafted. Manziel was in the boom boom room doing snooters until 3 a.m. Still throwing for like two 50 occasionally and shit like he could still, I think he might've been able to play.

He was, he was just too whacked out. But uh, if you give him film, he takes it home and watches it. Not goes home and watches all the scary movies. Yeah, exactly.

You gotta, you gotta watch the film, not the Wayans brothers. Exactly. Exactly.

That's the key to success. I'm still taking the Panthers. I'm going to ride that narrative. I'm going to take the Panthers at that number too, but I don't think any Dalton's throwing three touchdowns. Uh, Seahawks play the dolphins, Seahawks at home, four and a half dolphins of Skylar Thompson. I, I think this is a Seahawks move on unless you have anything else to say. I think the division, they better, if I think they're going to beat out the Niners in the division, they better beat Skylar Thompson and the dolphins at the crib. I do think the dolphins might cover. I didn't bet this game because it scares me a little bit.

I stayed away. If I was doing radio in Baltimore this week, I would say is week three, a must win for the Ravens. I'm not going to say it's a must win, but I will say it's a can't lose because the Ravens have the Cowboys this week and then the Ravens have the bills and then the Ravens have the Bengals. We've got a real realistic shot here that Baltimore could be own five. Yeah.

I think they're going to lose to Dallas. You do. Yup. Really?

Yup. I, uh, I bet the Ravens under 10 and a half wins and the Cowboys under 10 and a half. So both are a win for me. I think, um, Baltimore wins this week though. It's hard to envision them going on three, but I just, Mike McCarthy took a year off to live in a shed to scheme for days like this. They're going to play a bunch of like Zimmer's going to play a bunch of two high shell and Lamar's like the one quarterback that could feast on that. And I think this is finally the week where like Derrick Henry and that run game are going to take off because the Cowboys can't stop the run. I almost think man, like the saints still might just be an okay team. They just beat up on again. Yeah, I think the Cowboys suck. I think we exposed them in the playoffs last year. I mean, look what we did to them when we were young as shit. Like that was Jordan love's first roadstart.

He went in there and he looked like Brett fart. Okay. I'll do they make an amendment. The Ravens will win. If one of these topics, I'm confident and I'm curious and I'm concerned. I got it. I'm confident that Harbaugh is a better coach than McCarthy.

Yeah. I'm curious to see if Derrick Henry gets more than 20 carries, then they win. If he gets less, they lose. I'm curious to see if Jerry lasts the whole four quarters in the press box or he leaves to get a hand job or makes his way down to the field. The fire McCarthy after the Ravens beat the living. I'm concerned that I'm going to check online to look at like Twitter and because the Indiana fever playing at the same time that this game kicks off, my timeline is going to be flooded with Mike wicket hyping up Kaitlin Clark. I'm curious if I'm going to have a good enough day, but in college football that I'm going to get like $1,200 on the Ravens. Cause I think they're going to beat the shit out of the Cowboys actually in this spot.

Rams host the Niners. Yeah. Favorite.

I hurt. Yeah. Uh, you know, I bet the Rams, but I think the Niners are actually going to cover this one.

I think I'm still like the Niners. They're going to, I mean, it's in LA, which means it's in, it's going to be a sea of red. They take over. Yeah. Yeah. I like dumb game.

Okay. Cardinals host the lions. Cardinals are three point dogs at home. Dan Campbell got doc so bad. He had to move. People were sending, people were sending a repair people to his house to fix things that weren't broke. It didn't do it.

No, no, he had to move. Oh really? Yeah. I didn't see this. Why? Somebody called last night and told me and I pretended like I knew. Well, I Googled it real quick.

Hmm. Um, I like, uh, I actually, I like the lions, the bounce back. I think that loss was flukey. They were one for seven in the red zone last year. They were the best team in the red zone. I think Sam Laporte is going to score in anytime touchdown, but dude, I've been really impressed with Kyler Murray. He's been awesome. Also, I like Greg Dorich over two and a half receptions. Kyler Murray is pushing the ball down the field last week on throws 20 or more air yards was five for five with three touchdowns.

Marvin Harrison finally came alive and I'm happy because he's my fantasy quarterback. I think there's going to be a high scoring game, but I think the lions bounce back. I bet them on the money line. I didn't take the three points. I could see it being a field goal game, but I bet Detroit.

Okay. Uh, the Sunday night game is Atlanta against the chiefs. Atlanta is a three point dog. I think the chiefs could easily be owned too, but so could Atlanta. Yeah. I'm gonna take the chiefs. Travis Kelsey is getting in the end zone too. Let me take Atlanta to cover here.

Yeah. I, uh, I thought I was going to be really excited about this chief's offense and now I'm a little worried because Hollywood Brown went from being out like one week to now. We're not going to see him this year. Um, everybody loves Xavier worthy. I actually agree with cam Taylor Britt that he just like, he's like just a vertical guy right now. Speed version has to increase that route tree a little bit.

Pacheco's out now. Love my homes, but, um, yeah. And I'm, I, I gotta, I, I hate Kelsey. I so here's the problem with people when they get to this level. It's, it's, it's, it's like they're, they're very visible. They're very Hollywood elitist to me.

No, Jesus. They're very visible and the visibility is fine. Where people begin to get overexposed is when they're in too many commercials. Travis Kelsey's popping in a new commercial every week for a new brand and that that's where, or Jason and they're getting tied together. Hey, Jason Kelsey doing a quarter of Monday night football's one thing him popping up on a burger King ad or whatever the fuck you, Hey, you don't want to hear this and you don't want to hear when Aaron Rogers and the boys talk about this, but I think there might be something to these weirdos in Hollywood and now Kelsey's you go read the puff daddy shit. Look who's puff daddy's been hanging out with. Everybody's been hanging out with puff daddy. So I'm just saying, man, I ain't saying, but I'm just saying my dad was telling me this when I was in like the third grade and we own the video store. I'd be like, dad, Tom Cruise is so cool. He'd be like, Tom Cruz is an occult and he's a weirdo and he's three foot tall.

All these things turn out to be true. Holly is not in the Hollywood circle. Kelsey's I don't like I Kelsey and Taylor Swift and they're always like partying with all these other goofballs.

I don't know, man. I didn't. Here's when I cause I was actually team Kelsey cause I listened to the podcast. I was like, I liked these guys. I stopped liking them when he grabbed Andy Reed in the super bowl.

I get your competitive and stuff, but like you're grabbing like a 70 year old man like that all hyped up. I don't know. I just, I don't, that lost me a little bit. I wasn't into that. But then you like when Aaron Rogers shoves Robert Sala. Yeah.

Fuck yeah. I don't, don't you. So I am going to take the cheese.

Robert Sala is younger than Aaron Rogers. I think cheese Falcons got into Hollywood underground rings. I was just kidding about all that. I don't believe in any of that. I do believe that puff daddy is a huge weirdo though.

And I hope that he rots in hell. Uh, but yeah, Madison is not playing breaking news. Oh really? It's actually a huge, huge news, but yeah, I like the Falcons Falcons to cover Monday night. We got two games, which is fine. Cause they're on two different channels, but they'll do the dumb thing where they put it on split screen.

We have Hollywood. Sorry, go on. Uh, Bill's host, the Jig Jacksonville Jacksonville. I can't say the team name Jaguars.

Okay. So bills, bills, five point favorites against Jacksonville Bengals, seven and a half point favorites against Washington. Does either home team not cover? Yeah, I think the Jags are going to beat the bills. That's a lot more likely than I, the Bengals are not losing. I think the Bengals win, but I can't lay like seven and a half with them.

The thing is the commander's pass defense is bad. So a burrow and those guys don't figure it out this week. They're going to win five games this season. So they win, but I think the Jags are in desperation spot down or down on two.

Yeah. I mean they're Oh, and two on the season and the bills are all beat up right now on defense in the linebacker room. They're still without Milano.

They lost the Bernard or whatever his name is. So I think the Jags will take advantage of that defense and win this game. So Jags for me, bangles for me. All right. I got a fan dual thing here where you can like, I get guys I like this week. I get up to 10 shuffles. Okay. And I have to lock it in when I like something. Okay.

And these are receiving props. So the first one I got is Tyree kill four plus reception. Should I just lock that in or not? I wouldn't play that.

I mean, who's throwing them the football shuffle. Okay. Yeah. My next one is DJ Moore four plus receptions. I kind of liked that one, man, because I'm Keenan Allen's still all banged up Roma Dunes a sucks right now. Like he's the worst out of all these first round. I'm gonna keep it.

They're going to hit him in the flat. Okay. Yeah.

I think, I think Caleb's gonna have a good game. All right. Good. Yeah. It's a little dumb thing on FanDuel. Yeah.

Uh, if you could find any, um, I'm really high on crystal lobby this week. It's been mostly Shaheed, but he's got a 35% target share, meaning he's still like the first read guy. I think Chris a lot. He's just catching 70 yard bombs. And then everybody from Seattle, if you're stacking, that's, that's the lineup I would stack JSN DK against that Miami secondary Jalen Ramsey dude is graded out like cornerback number 35 right now on the perimeter. And he's going against DK. DK is going to expose his ass the same way Davante did in that playoff game where the floor had to like break them up.

That was awesome. I missed Davante. I don't, um, Ryan Horvat. You don't miss Davante? No.

You are a fucking hater, man. The Rogers Davante era hated the whole thing. You want to take Davante today? No, because then where are my zero targets a game to Christian Watson going to go?

I'll take Davante in a heartbeat. You're a lunatic Horvat with Brad Evans on bet MGM tonight on the bet QL network. Yeah, I have COVID. So I get to work from home tonight. So I'm pretty jacked about that. You did this show without a mask.

You've asked her pretty ridiculous for, for a lib, right? One time somebody saw me wearing a mask while in my car. Oh God, you were that guy.

That was never that guy. I was going between like Walmart to festival. It was just in, it was right there. When COVID first came out and I thought it was going to kill us. Remember I was wearing gloves into the studio because I was the only person that had to still go to the studio for whatever. I wore gloves. I wore gloves and not a mask. I thought it was like the movie outbreak.

Like I was going to touch something and melt. Turns out it's just a, I feel like ass though. I do feel like just absolute shit. And it sucks because this weekend is so awesome for college football, which by the way, vendor. Yeah. You want to give a pick or two?

Yeah. Let me just throw out Vandy plus 20 and a half against Missouri. So Missouri was in a fight with Boston college last week, man. And they're heading into the buy and like, I like Missouri, but I don't trust their defense. They lost five starters to the NFL.

And like I said, they're going into the buy. Meanwhile, um, Vandy is coming off a loss. They won their first two games. They beat Virginia tech who had a lot of people like to win the ACC, but, uh, they lost to, uh, Georgia Southern last week outright. So they're going to be motivated here. Like I said, Missouri goes into the buy and then they have their gauntlet of a schedule on the road to Texas saying them, and then, you know, Auburn, Alabama, uh, Oklahoma, all the good teams that they have to play this season.

So give me a, give me a them. And then I like Arkansas plus three. And then I like, uh, I hate to say this. I think Oklahoma state beats Utah since cam rising is most likely not going to play. Who do you like in Tennessee, Oklahoma? I'm excited for that game.

Yeah. So I mean like the number tells you, you should probably bet Oklahoma, but I cheer for Tennessee every week because I bet Nico Maliava to win the Heisman it's 16 to one. And now he's down to like eight to one. So if he balls out, I think he might be one of the favorites. I bet him. And then I bet cam ward for Miami 20 to one. He's the favorite now plus four or 50. So I don't bet against Tennessee this season.

I don't bet against Miami. I just cheer for him every week. And I've got five straight Heisman's right. So I love those paydays. The end of the year, you're just sitting there and all of a sudden $1,800 $2,200 just pops up in your account.

And you're like, Oh yeah, it's Saturday night. Thank you, Caleb Williams. Thank you, Jayden Daniels. Thank you, Joe burrow this year.

Thank you, Nico Maliava. Remember the name he's counting. He's Colin Kaepernick. If Kaepernick could actually throw the football. Another one of Fondy's finest Colin Kaepernick. Hey, he deserves another shot, man. If Colin Kaepernick would have stayed in Fond du Lac, he would have played soccer for my dad. I love that story. I'm glad that he didn't stay in Fond du Lac. Oh, you know what?

I wish he would have stayed in Fond du Lac because then he wouldn't have rushed for 185 yards and kissing his fucking biceps all over my team. By the way, my soccer team is one and Oh, we got a big win. Oh, let's go.

Yeah. We need an update every, every what was the score? I didn't keep score. Pussy. One dad told me it was eight to two. Another dad told me it was 15 to two.

So I don't know what these fucking guys were looking at. One lot score up. Hey, Wayne Kiffin runs that score up.

He's trying to get Jackson dart the Heisman and cost me money. That's what you should be doing. Right. It's always good to see you.

Yeah, you too. What position really quick? What position does your child play? Is he a they all play scrum? Did he score any goals?

Or is he more like the sis man right now? He scored. Oh, good. My kids first soccer game he got hit on the on the face off the kickoff right in the face with the ball and he cried. There was one problem because as a coach, you get to be on the field.

Yeah. And so I was backed by the goal and there was one kid that was on the ground, like clawing at the ball and like holding it moving it. And nobody saw that. And then he got up and kicked it and it hit me in the leg right in front of the goal. So the other team's parents were mad at me.

But this kid's pushing the fucking soccer ball, man. Yeah, get it together, dude. Learn, learn the game, right?

Grow the game. All right. Have a good day. Go to the game. Thanks, Harvat. Yeah.