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We did the pics were kind of bad. Were they mine were. But I think last week kind of sucked, I had a bunch of money on USC and USC on the money line against LSU so I ended up doing good but I also had.
God I had one awful one. I took Clemson, I bet Clemson, that game was that was never close that was a big mistake, but everybody like all this. I mean, not all the smart people but like a lot of money came in on Clemson because they were 14 point dogs that closed at 10. I almost came back on the other side and bet some Georgia, but I didn't.
Yeah. It was a weird week we oh we had Notre Dame to though. Yeah, Notre Dame.
Well I took the Aggies. Ah, gotcha. Yeah, but I didn't bet any money on it like real money so I'm, I had a great week too I broke even. There you go. There you go. Well starts this week, the world officially begins right, the new world, the new any thoughts on Chiefs Ravens I think, I think the Ravens are going to look at that game and think.
All right. We're still close. There's things we can improve on. But by the time that they play the Chiefs again if they do the Chiefs are going to be way better. And they're already way great. The thing that's bothering me, and it is bothering me about people and how they're talking about the Chiefs is nobody wants to take the Chiefs, because they want to Super Bowls in a row. And so now they're not going to wear a third, but they are the best team in the league. So no matter what you throw at them they find a way to counter, and then teams trade them pick so they can get new weapons like Xavier worthy so I have a, I have a hard time already thinking that she's won't repeat three feet. And after last night, I mean it just seems more more likely.
Yeah, I got a couple takes from that game one. I think everybody's like, Oh, this is a good thing for Baltimore and I know like Isaiah likely after the game was like, you know, they pretty much are like oh, that'll be the only game we lose. I don't think that's going to be the case I bet them under 10 and a half wins I don't think they're going to be very good. And I never say this about Baltimore I love Lamar.
He's one of my favorite quarterbacks in the league I bet him to win MVP last season. Isaiah likely flowers is good I don't know these a number one though I don't love their wide receiver didn't add one, and then they added Derek Henry, and they're still giving Lamar more carries. Yeah, cuz like I like Derek Henry but like 31, are you going to give them 15 to 20 touches every single game and run them into a brick wall. And then on the defensive side of the ball they lost pieces they got three new offensive linemen and it's a tough division, you know if like if T Higgins and Jamar chase decided to show up to work the bangles are going to be good. Browns I'm kind of almost out on the Browns after like seeing the Sean, I want to see Jamis, we all do as a country I think, but it's not even that it's like Chubb's hurt, obviously we knew that was going to be the case but your replacement backs Jerome Ford.
I don't know. And then it's like you know i i don't know, but with the Chiefs I completely agree with you man. I said I'm going to bet the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl every single year until Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes break up because at worst you get a great hedging opportunity when they're in the championship game and they're six point favorites you could just take the other team get your hundred dollars back.
They're giving us five to one prices. This team is better offensively they're going to be better and last night. That's nothing because you add Xavier worthy who runs like a four two, but also you're going to get Hollywood Brown back, most likely next week, you know, so you don't have to overwork Kelsey until it's playoff time then he's Jerry Rice at the tight end position. On the defensive side of the ball they're so underrated.
The secondary I know they lost need. So I don't love the second corner position as much as I did last year obviously they're a little undersized, but uh, yeah man, I mean, what a shot, if anybody's going to do it it's going to be the Kansas City Chiefs it's going to be Patrick Mahomes because he's the greatest quarterback of all time, I like when I say that. And they like posted on our social account, and then people get in my mentions and they're like oh Tom Brady. Yes, Tom Brady is the most decorated quarterback of all time but Tom Brady himself is going to tell you that my homes like better overall player Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes. And here's another overall take for you talent wise Aaron Rodgers is better than Tom Brady as well do we have to do the top 10 scoring defense thing no to Tom Brady after throw balls in the back of the window to the equinamius St. Brown EQ equinamius I can't even say his name right now to tell me, yes, equinamius, good.
And then also, you know what, man, I hate to bring this up one more time. But I got a defender and Rogers just one more time, ever on this podcast This game was on NFL Network The other night. Not the Seattle game. He wasn't great in that game.
How awful was Devante against Tampa Bay? Yeah Jesus Christ catch the football and the Packers are in the Super Bowl, but I digress I just had to throw that one out there as you could see Packers 17 and 0 and it begins tonight But yeah, I think the Chiefs are awesome. I think the Ravens are gonna be like mediocre this season Can't wait to see who else is good in the AFC man. It's gonna be fun Eagles are what in Brazil a two and a half point favorite This is so weird because there was originally a three that popped up with Green Bay So I bet the Packers immediately plus three. I was like, okay, then we were down to one and a half one some shops Now it's back to two So yeah We'll call the Eagles a two-point favorite with a total of forty nine and a half Which I believe is the highest total all week in a game that's going to take place in Brazil We're just crap ever do you have like reporters can't tweet so their wives have to do the tweeting forum But all these other all these like Packer beat reporters are on their VPNs It's like every Packer beat reporters like or even podcasters like well, I gotta get to this game How Where who's coming up with all this money to fly to Brazil? Right? It's like well, we'll do it. We'll do a meetup You guys barely can even meet up in Green Bay.
What? Yeah, it's like I I don't I don't want to be getting FOMO to from a place I didn't even want to be at is do you think Michaels is at the game? No, he's having a party. Oh Really are you going no, I think it's at a bar. Oh I figured he'd like that's what I love about Billy just fly himself out there to Brazil He'd be on the beaches when they're telling you not to leave the hotel. It's sponsored by like it's sponsored by like some truck Repair guy and wasa pay for a whole trip.
Just the whole thing, honey. No vacation. No, no 40-year vacation for us this year I'm flying build out the Brazil Vacation no 401k He's bringing he's got he brings it easy he's got the whole crew Grant gets to go Clemens is of course there. I love it Anyway, why are they let's be honest.
All right, so we got to be quick I know today but like why are we doing this in Brazil make it make sense if it's that Stupid to be over there. They want I mean the NFL nobody like capitalism continues to be because There's no limit to how much money you can get Okay, and and because of that no one's ever satisfied with the amount of money they have Yeah, no one on earth has ever been satisfied with the amount of money. They have no one's ever been like no This is good. I'm good There they always need more money and the NFL is Really going to like ice.
I really think it's hard to envision it ever happening But that's what they used to think in the Roman Empire or about when they used to expand and expand and expand They never thought they would fall. Well, you're right too big You allow for more cracks to come in Dude well speaking of this is not speaking of but That kickoff what a bust. Why don't they just move the kicker back ten yards? Oh, it's so stupid.
I know right? Yeah I bitched about that for like ten like the whole the whole game last night. I'm like, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah measure take measure take Oh interesting take measure take and the kickoff and I'm like, whoa Yeah, I gotta be honest. I hate everything that they change about the league every little thing from the 17 games I don't even like Thursday night football. I mean I for content for all I do it makes my show so much easier No, I say well see I don't like football on when I'm on the air. I hate it. I hate it I want to enjoy the game on my couch being left alone. Anyway, uh Excited we're working right tonight Yeah, during the Packers to see this what I hate it's Friday night focus on the high school kids, right? Like how many parents are like, you know, gosh darn it We got to go like I want to watch my team, but also want to see my son. It's the senior year Like no, I hate this.
This is what I'm saying, man. Fine Thursday night football stays Let's not mess with Fridays Fridays is for high school Saturdays until the end of the season when we need it cuz college football is for the season I like my football on all levels. I'm a high school football fan. I know it's weird. I like my college football I like my pro football. Let's not mess with it. And again, like there's parents there's Packer fans What if you're a season ticket holder?
Well, I guess that wouldn't be the case because they're all 95 doo doo doo. Yeah Whoa, anyway, I wanted I got some on this game. I think the Eagles are really good at this game I think the Eagles are really good at this game. I think the Eagles are really good at this game I got some on this game. I think the Eagles are good.
I still think they're good They're confused about if they like each other, but they are able to score points and they probably will score points But I'm as confident in a Packers win tonight as I've been in a Packers win in a long time I really think the Packers are going there to win a football game I think they are winning this game and starting 1-0 Yeah, yeah, I I'm really excited for this game to be honest with you because I'm excited for both teams I think this could honestly be an NFC championship preview, but I think both teams by like week 10 Maybe even week 8 look completely different, right? Cuz like the Eagles bring in Vic Fangio now is their defensive coordinator and I like Vic a lot Even though he's like 180 years old now But it always takes a little bit for his scheme like for guys to pick up his scheme We did this all year last year in Miami and they never picked up the scheme But they also had a bunch of injuries, but I like what they did in the draft. I love Quinon Mitchell I know everybody doesn't know about him because there's not a lot of psychopaths that watch Mac football But he's been probably the best corner in college the last two years. I wanted Cooper Dejean personally for the Packers I think eventually he'll be a weapon, you know, they could kind of play inside outside Maybe it's safety good special teams player and then on the offensive side of the ball, man I'm excited for Kellen Moore coming in because last year the Eagles were dead last and pre snap motion They were almost dead last and pace and the year it didn't make sense the year that they went to the Super Bowl Everything was up tempo. Jalen was snap Jalen was snapping the ball There was like 15 16 seconds on the play clock last year They were walking up to the line of scrimmage Defenses had more time to adjust I'm excited and I also like I like the moves that they made to to be honest I was a little bit worried who that number three wide receiver was you go out and get your Honda I think Saquon is gonna be huge. Saquon is gonna be awesome Ajay Brown, but I'm with you. I think Green Bay wins this football game tonight last year They gave up 335 yards per game and 128 on the ground Halfly is obsessed with stopping the run So maybe they can neutralize a little bit Saquon hopefully tonight and then I can't wait to see what they do with these blitz packages Right, um, that's what I really want to see if you go back.
I watched a bunch of Boston College last year I like his sub packages. He's gonna have like five six rushers And the only thing that scares me a little bit though because I gyres still a lock down corner You know, I still trust him for the most part Eric Stokes ever gonna be good because Eric Stokes even when he's been on the field has not has not been good And I don't know how good like the slot corners are Keishon Nixon Love the safety position all of a sudden. I think Javon Bullard is gonna be awesome I love going out and getting X but um That's the only thing that I worry about a little bit with this team Like I think this team could win a Super Bowl I would love for them to go out if they had to and sign a veteran corner I saw Jalen Ramsey just like like ten minutes ago got paid like a billion dollars the second highest paid corner He's gonna cook him every time we play him Like everybody does make it that's but I would like I would love like just like a Stefan Gilmore type guy You know like that that's and then the only other thing that scares me cuz I think the Packers offense is gonna be awesome I hated letting Aaron Jones go. I don't know if that's still a hot take I would rather have Aaron Jones than Josh Jacobs. Maybe I'm hope I'm wrong on that And then the depth in the running back room right now, and then just kind of like the reports Especially against the Broncos in that joint practice where they were like struggling to pass protect because last year They were number two in the league in pass protection, especially the second half of the season That's when Jordan love became Jordan love all that said though.
I think the Packers win a close one I don't know about that total though at 49 and a half I would like to say shootout and bet the over but you never know on these neutral site games, right? Like what's it? What's this field gonna be? Like?
I have no idea never been to Brazil So I just looked up a corner that I I've always wanted to be a Packer. He retired in April Logan Ryan, I always wanted Logan Ryan bring him in. I like a guy with two first names. It's only 33 first name But he just retired Yeah, and he probably don't if you just retired he probably doesn't want to come out of retirement Leave the beach and go to Green Bay, Wisconsin Although I do Super Bowl.
Well, but then again, he's already won two of them. That's the thing. Yeah, he's Like I'm good, yeah, yeah, yeah you want to come try to win a Super Bowl now, dude, I retired I don't care what though though, what did that guy call us last week the Though the Winkler very little did I send you he called us not the Winkler verse but Winger some way not verse wing nut verse It was into the wing nut verse.
I like this is pretty good. So I'm taking the Packers to win Would you? All right We'll do will spotlight a few NFL games Yeah, one of those is gonna be Titans at Bears.
Yeah Titans are getting three and a half. I do I did take the Bears as a playoff team. I took him as a wildcard team I lecture the Bears every night when I can I the Bears could win a Super Bowl and the Packers don't even make the playoffs and the Bears could win a Super Bowl and For 90% of the fan base their first sentence spoken after the Super Bowl The word Packers would be within the first 15 words that they say They are obsessed and it is in a sick.
And so I'm just trying to tell them enjoy your own successes Now you're trying to convince me one way here. I Think the Bears do come out and win Mmm, but you've got you you gave me a little two-word teaser. That is basically everything I stand for Before the before the taping or about reminded me of a little thing called Titans theory.
Yeah, which I thought was dead with Tannehill No, no, no, but it seems like Will Leviss is the the most complete and perfect successor Yeah, dude. Yeah under Titans theory The Bears are heavily favored The Titans are not supposed to win. It's in Chicago This is as Titans theory of a game as it gets I May have to sway and ride with that Yeah, I we talked about this I've known you've wanted the Titans on this pick for at least a month. Yeah Yeah, I bet this I bet this plus four We're down to three and a half which I think is telling I if you like the Bears do not bet the Bears until Sunday Morning, I think this might close like two and a half three. Like you said Bears could win 12 games this year I don't think it's happening.
I think nine Okay. Yeah, I mean what I'm saying is they could be a playoff team They could also just win seven games again Even if Caleb Williams is really good and then next year they win 10 11 games, right? Like Detroit went eight and eight then Detroit went to the NFC Championship game and blew a three-score lead I just think Detroit's awesome. I really do. My Super Bowl pick was Chiefs over Detroit.
Yeah. Yeah I I like Detroit a lot this year and I like Green Bay a lot this year It is usually if they're upgraded on the defensive side of the ball So it's like are we getting three teams in? Good thing though for the Bears is they don't even have to see any of these teams until week 11 Uh, but yeah, man, like I wasn't the biggest will Levis guy coming out of college But the one thing he could do is throw the ball deep and you bring in Kelvin Ridley, you know D Hops questionable right now, but you got Trey Burks. You got Tyler Boyd there. Now you have Tony Pollard and Tajay Spears Offensive line should be a little bit better you upgraded in the secondary just by bringing in Well a couple different guys the jury just need being one of them. That was a great pickup That's the only thing I worry about with the Chiefs. So yeah, man I kind of like him up front to Vondrais sweat Jeffrey Simmons I think they might be able to get after Caleb Williams and as good as Caleb Williams is when he's in the pocket Best quarterback in college football last year when he's outside of the pocket or under pressure.
He's a mess. He had a 39.6 QB rating that's where all this turnover worthy throws came from. He's a young quarterback. He's gonna throw one You know he is man Like my I feel like Jayden Daniels will protect the football Caleb might throw like I don't know 14 to 20 picks even if he is awesome because he's gonna take some risks with the football I think he's gonna throw at least one interception in this game. I think the Titans cover I think the Titans might win this game Bears are getting so much height They won seven games last year and I get it like Keenan Allen's old fat ass is there DJ Moore's awesome, you know cold comets good. I'm just saying like they were on hard knocks We do this every year with the hard knocks team. Yeah, nobody wants to believe in the Titans Caleb put his helmet on and said breathe.
Will Levis is bathing in Mayo. Let's go Titans Let's kick off the season with a Packers dub and a Bears loss and then rub it in their face a little bit one last Time I like the Titans theory here. Give me Tennessee.
I Wish Mike Rabel was on those sidelines. He would beat the Bears if Rabel's the coach you're betting the Titans, right? Well, I think I'm probably betting the Bears here on most any other team that they would be up three and a half against but It's the Titans theory. I can't run from what made me Tennessee Tennessee Tennessee yeah, they're gonna win. They're gonna win in Soldier Field Bears fans they're gonna be there in their Caleb jerseys tailgating all all hammered up only to watch Will Levis go in there and throw for 350 three touchdowns three picks and It's gonna be I kind of like the over. I feel like it might be a shootout, too The only thing that scares me though, dude is the Bears defense is good Yeah, well, they're good good. They are good The Cowboys are dogs in Cleveland Cowboys are dogs in Cleveland What do you got on the line two and a half two and a half if we get to three? So all summer long, I wanted to hammer the Browns in this spot and I did bet him it was a pick But now I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna go huge on the Cowboys if we get to three if we don't get to three I might just buy it minus 120. I don't feel as good about the Browns Deshaun Watson still sucks, and he's broken Just give us Jamis Nick Chubb, I figured he was gonna be out the first four games of the season, but it's official he's out I like Jerome for but like they were thinking about cutting them.
So, I don't know what's up there. How happy is Amari Cooper? They were just trying to trade him for Brandon. I you you know, like does he even want to be there throwing? You know, he's catching balls from Deshaun Watson rapist Offensive line still awesome.
But are they awesome? They got like a bunch of injuries going on defensive side of the ball really good I think Dallas is going under ten and a half wins I think the Eagles win the division, but I mean you got a pissed off deck who wants to get paid CD just got paid You got that defense like this is a tough one. I get I guess I'll hmm I'll stick with my original pick Right here at two and a half that the Browns win the game by a field goal because it's at home their home road splits Much better on the defensive side of the ball, but it won't surprise me if Dallas does win this game You know what? I mean with all the weird stuff that was going on now Nobody wants to buy into him and what if Deshaun just goes out there and looks awful and throws like three first half picks Like Cowboys don't have bland this season Diggs is coming back from an injury. You lose your defensive coordinator. Yeah, this is tough. I'll just go Browns I'll stick with my pick.
I don't love this one, though That's why I kind of want to buy out and just buy the Cowboys plus three and have no money on this Oh, this is actually where my favorite better the week comes from though under eleven and a half rushing yards Ezekiel Elliott on the longest rush in what world and to make those Jesus yeah. Yeah, you could bet this a bet MGM, of course Anywhere, but bet MGM is where you should go core show sponsor minus 125 is the price He did this like three times last year. He's another year older. He's fatter. That's not his role They're gonna use Rico his role is gonna be short line our short line. Jeez short yardage goal line back Right, like line him up at center. That's 30 and it's the Browns front He ain't going for a 12-yard gain if he does I'll cut my arm off or I won't because I'll already be $500 in the hole. But yeah, I bet $500 on that Okay, quite a bit.
That's my favorite one that popped out. I'm like 11 and a half longest game No, I would say like six at the most is his longest game Zeke's not ripping off 20-yard runs in In 2024, but yeah, what are your thoughts? I think it's pretty bonkers that everybody's writing off the Cowboys because I don't think Big Mac.
I don't think that the Cowboys are gonna I Don't think they're gonna write back Yeah That's my eyes. I there are 12 and 5 football team no matter what they do. It's about the playoffs for them I was just a football coach.
I wish we had that drop right now. Oh, I don't think Belicheck's ever coaching again. I Think anybody would want to play for him, right McCarthy had a year between jobs, right? people like you he went to a Cabin at the back of his property invited all the other island of misfit toys coaches and And schemed out new ways to win football games in this new analytic era Bill Belicheck Dated the first young girl he could find and has six media jobs Now he's loving that is not coming back into coaching No, dude, because I don't think anybody like I don't think you could be like a hard-ass like that anymore, right?
I mean He's he was in there like rip. I like I like the Cowboys Yeah, me too No, I like the Browns. Oh We get the three I like the Cowboys but right now we're talking a consensus line of two and a half So we got to give the people the honest numbers Lions host the Rams on Sunday night Yeah four and a half Yep, I'm gonna be uh, I'm gonna be with the chalk here, dude I'm gonna be with the with the regular Joe's and not the pros because I'm sure at four and a half There's probably gonna be a buy order on the Rams. I don't I don't give a crap Um, I think the Lions are really really really really awesome I think they're gonna be as scary as this sounds kind of like Green Bay. I think they're gonna be better this year You know, I just the Rams Defense lost Aaron Donald and he's awesome and with with Aaron Donald on the field last year. They were doing all right It'll be good.
I think they'll be good too. But I like something they're gonna win this game either I think Detroit's gonna do whatever they want against them. Like the Rams were 23rd and sack rate with Aaron Donald Jared Goff is a top 10 quarterback when he has a clean pocket You have a new defensive coordinator for the Rams and Chris Shula who's never been a defensive coordinator The Lions have the best offensive line in the league. They're indoors Ben Johnson's back call in place The Rams actually I feel like might be a little overrated man right now Like who's their top corner Darius Williams is their number one corner last year. He had a targeted passer rating of 46 That's one of the worst in the league.
Imagine like what Sam Brown's gonna do to him He's gonna abuse him and then they bring in Trey White as their other corner. He hasn't been healthy since like 2013 Lions Lions win by a touchdown. I know the revenge game is there again for Stafford and you know They got beat in the playoffs, but they got beat because the Lions are just better. They're much better I I'm gonna take the Lions. I think that they have You know, sometimes you get to that point Sometimes teams get to that point and something happens Like you can look at that in 2014 and think how Mike McCarthy never recovered from that Seattle game Yeah, and it takes a while to realize it but then hindsight you can go back and think oh They should have moved on or changed course Yeah, but I don't think Dan Campbell's that kind of guy.
I think Dan Campbell is like he He's the stopper to that sort of slide. I think he takes what happens last year and They escalate from that So, I don't know that they would get to a Super Bowl and beat the Chiefs But they are still my NFC pick to make the Super Bowl and I think they'll be having fun on Sunday night Do would you say this really quick? Would you say that the Packers and the Lions are the two most fun teams in the league?
Like let's say you didn't have a team you grew up in, Iowa I feel like I would love Jordan love and all those receivers Just like Lambeau Field and the mystique and but I would like love the Lions If I didn't have a team like if I was playing Madden, that would be my mom I'd be very easy to like the Lions I mean, they just have so many weapons like Gibbs Montgomery like to like perfect compliments to each other St. Brown You could put them anywhere La Porta, uh, Jamison Williams, maybe On the other side Aiden Hutchinson, you know I hate that they're in our division because I don't hate them like I hate they don't really have a reason to hate them if They if they give you a reason Yeah, a little brother. I mean eventually we will hate them and we'll get annoyed but also like, you know We split with them last year and I kind of think we have the upper hand unless let's see how good that secondary looks because Remember, they were trying to play man that in that second matchup and Jordan love torch them He just ripped them apart and all the in like you had Terry and Arnold who I like but he's a rookie and Jordan love is probably gonna be better this year So, yeah the last NFL game will take a deep dive into It's also four and a half. I feel like Jets at Niners Yeah down to four in some shops. We could call it six. That's right about this I'm a little nervous about this one.
Now. I bet the Jets huge You know, but now Trent Williams is back and I uke's there and Deebo's healthy Christian McCaffrey It looks like is going to play even though he popped up on the injury report randomly on Thursday But I like the Jets. I think the Jets are gonna be good I think the Jets will play the Chiefs in the AFC championship game.
I think Rogers will stay healthy Breeze Hall's one of the best backs in the league If not the best back in the league Garrett Wilson's gonna be a top-five receiver if you ever give him a real quarterback And that's the best defense in the league and Rogers I know for whatever reason can't beat the Niners in the playoffs sigh But he's really good against them in the regular season six and three and this just seems like a game where Rogers wins, right? I Can't this is hard. Yeah This is hard. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm sorry. I had to get it out. I love the Jets to this year I like the Jets and I like the Packers.
I how do I pick this? I I hate but one Rogers to succeed. Do you want a Jets Packers Super Bowl? No, no That's messed up. Why would you that'd be awful? Because I like Aaron Rodgers and I want him to succeed.
Well, I think the Jets are gonna win He gave his whole heart and soul to this organization. Just like Jordan Love will just like Brett. Nevermind. Why is farve everywhere? He won't stop tweeting Why is he everywhere? I don't think he has a job. I think he needs that Elon money Why is everybody just having a mother show nevermind I talked about this the other day I said I saw that Gelb had him on I could not have him on I Couldn't just do 10 minutes with far without being like so dude.
What are you doing to these pores? Right. I couldn't I couldn't how could I do it? I couldn't do it I'd say Brett I got two questions for you and they both involve the letter P. Let's call them the two peas pecker and the poor What are we doing here?
Right? I loved you man. You're the reason I love football so much Why'd you do this to me? You let me down No, I'm gonna be honest if I could have farve on my show. I wouldn't a heartbeat. I'd probably go on vacation with farve Well, yeah, I would too, but I'm not gonna interview him.
I'd have to ask him the hard question Me Farvin bill on a poker run. That would be great Can is it possible for us to rapid-fire the rest of the NFL? Let's do it without doing Doing nine minutes on each game Yeah, but there's week one Falcons three and a half over Steelers. I like Atlanta.
Me too. Let's do the dirty bird Russell Wilson's already hurt. Let's call him.
Mr. Limited. Yes, bill six and a half hosting the Cardinals I'm gonna take the Cardinals to cover. I actually I took the under in this game I think the bills office is like gonna be a mess and the Cardinals everybody's like, oh man, they're gonna score 50 a game Let's pump the brakes on that under for me Bengals eight and a half over the Patriots I Did I think the Patriots cover like seven or eight? Oh For my other pick I'm with you on the Cardinals though. I got to make a pick. Um, yeah, I Whoo, geez.
Yeah, uh, this is tough. I'm gonna say the Bengals actually cover problem is right How Jamar chase is not at practice and T Higgins like are these guys showing up? They should because I don't think anybody's skipping out on 1 million dollar game checks Give me the bangles. I think the Patriots are gonna suck Colts a three-point dog at home to the Texans. I Think I like the Colts.
Yeah, me too. This is one of my favorite bets I think the Colts win man Texans killed it this offseason. Everybody loves the Texans I kind of want to pump the brakes a little bit there, too They played a last-place schedule now a first-place schedule Colts always play him tough I like Shane Steichen.
I like Anthony Richardson. Sometimes I like Jonathan Taylor I like their weapons and they have I think the most underrated defensive line in the league So I think they'll be able to hold their own in this game actually and I still have some concerns about the Texans offensive line I like the Colts at three at home, too Dolphins three and a half against Jacksonville. I think I I think I like Jacksonville.
Yeah, me too I feel like we like too many dogs. I bet too many dogs I think the Jags actually might win that division man I've never been the biggest Trevor Lawrence guy, but I think he's gonna win it and Houston to do wildcard Yeah, I think I love what they did in the draft. You get the best deep threat wide receiver You know, maybe even in the league already in Rob like he's gonna average 20 yards per catch Calvin Ridley stunk in that offense anywhere anyway, and I think the defense is gonna be much improved I saw Mike Clay had them projected top 10. So I like Jacksonville to cover. I think Miami takes a step back I they went one and six against playoff teams with the point differential of negative 18 two of those losses were by more than four touchdowns including that curb stomping by the Ravens where all they had to do is Win and that home field advantage then they didn't have to go into arrowhead in a cold-weather game That's the only way Miami is ever gonna do anything If they have home field advantage because to I just can't play in cold weather.
I tried to buy it last year. Never again Jags The Saints are a four-point favorite at home against the Panthers. I think the Saints are the worst team in the league Panthers are gonna win me too.
Yeah, I like the fighting Eric. I just like a lot of these dogs on the road dogs I think a lot of home teams are like hyped up and we're not even thinking of like it's just see everything seems like it's so like oh this of course, of course, of course and then Jacksonville one Carolina one. Well, yeah, I mean these teams that like they're not the Saints are bad Yeah, the Saints are bad and like for their six time. He'll gonna lead the team in touchdowns though He may for their six linebackers are on the injury report today on a Friday to that.
That's the telling injury report. So, uh, yeah, I Like the Carolina Panthers in this spot I think other than Seattle going out and hiring Mike McDonald this head coach them hiring Eric Eager was the hire of the offseason to do whatever it is. He's even doing for the Panthers Has he even like said anything online that he's working there's even confirmed it. Yeah, he is working with them I that's why I feel like he's probably not doing a whole bunch else He's just you know, this is what smart teams are doing now You know, you're bringing in guys to consult because I mean you weren't off when you were like I could be an NFL head coach I don't think you could Personally, but I do think that like, you know, you could work a clock. That's what head coaches need You're doing so much already You know, that's why you know, you're you're and they it's the worst at and they never practice it Mm-hmm.
Yeah, never prac. They have all these drills for all their players. They don't have any practice ability for them because like Maden like my grandpa in in the 70s and 80s ran the double-wing offense no matter who the opponent was Now if you're a smart offensive coordinator or head coach, you don't just run the same stuff every week You you script a new game plan for opponent.
You know what I mean? Like that's what Green Bay did against Detroit That's when they tore him up in that second matchup Like that's when the floor last year I kind of hated him the first six games of the season and I love the floor But I felt like it was a really lazy job and he was oh I was on his ass last year He was setting Jordan love up for failure Then all of a sudden the creative stuff came more pre-snap motion and that opened up Jordan love Like early on in the season go back and watch man It was all just explosive player bust and then all of a sudden it became like oh, we'll take the intermediate stuff And then yeah, that's that's that's the thing that like all these guys all these quarterbacks can play I don't know about Zach. Well, I don't know about Zach Wilson. I think he might just suck but all these guys can play It's where you it's like Brock Perry's living proof of this. It's your situation. It's it's the pieces around you It's the play calling.
You can't be surrounded by a bunch of dummies. All these guys have the talent. They're in the NFL Giants Host the Vikings Vikings a point-and-a-half favorite. Give me the fighting Darnold's Yeah, me too. Um, I think this is gonna be a shootout I think both quarterbacks are gonna play good Danny Jones and Sam Darnold my favorite prop in this game Justin Jefferson receiving yards, he's gonna ball out. I'm gonna go Vikings Broncos go to Seattle. I think the Broncos I think I think you know What's the opposite of I think the world of somebody because that's how I oppositely feel about Sean Payton. Yeah I'm gonna take the Seahawks to cover the six Yeah, I think the Seahawks are gonna win this game 35 to 3 and my first Ryan Horvat Hot take of the Winkler verse the Seahawks are gonna win that division kids bet it now plus 750 nearly 8 to 1 Mike McDonald that secondary Devin Witherspoon, right?
Reek Wolin. Uh, I think Gino is gonna ball out this year. JSN is gonna have a breakout year Kenneth Walker's ex-chardonnay. Uh, DK Metcalfe Tyler Lockett They're gonna be good Pretty good and they're gonna beat the living hell out of the Broncos and I'm with you I hate not only that I don't like to say the word hate shouldn't have hate in your heart I think I really do hate Sean Payton. Here's another Ryan Horvat hot take We're Mike McCarthy's a better coach.
They have the same right? Yeah Yeah, that's Bill Michael's greatest take. Oh, he has that one. Shoot that Sean Payton is Mike McCarthy with a better PR team I liked Bill's take we're like it was like sugar each euro even be in the Hall of Fame half of his hits did come in Japan Well, what David Ortiz shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame because all he did was hit a Little too much bill on today's program. I miss it though.
We're not enough I was gonna say or maybe not enough some will appreciate it. Some will be like that's my bill, you know Do you remember that show that's my bush Weird yeah, like it was like the yeah Yeah, that's my bush Yeah, that was I loved that. He goes one of these days Laura. I'm gonna punch you in the face Yeah, if nobody's seen the show, that's my bush now I feel like nobody did back before like you could just purchase your edibles, right? That the Bush era was a different time man.
Yeah to make your own edibles We used to eat those and watch that show and watch South Park. Just just wild stuff. I love those guys Chargers three-point favorite over the Raiders. Give me the Raiders That's why I'm wearing black today for the Raiders pick hmm, I Think the Chargers are gonna be good in three years. I think the Chargers win this game I bet the under I think it's gonna be a low-scoring game. I don't really have anything on this one I gotta wait and see I think the Raiders are gonna suck. I want to Vontae trade it back to Green Bay The play for the Blizzard maybe I don't want him back shut up buccaneers three and a half points over the commanders I'll take Baker and the boys God, I kind of want to believe in the commandos man like the hometown I don't do but I kind of want to believe in the Buccaneers I just I really like Jayden Daniels. I don't I want the but I know I'm good I like baked but I just think they suck this year.
I think that's what it comes down to I think they regress Three commanders plus three and a half. Yeah, Jayden Daniels. He just won me a bunch of money I'll take some of that Heisman money and throw a hundred on this game in honor of them. All right I'll do quick college picks last week. We did all college picks this week.
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You're like is this That's how that works. Yeah I'm a big fan. I got a couple of those in my refrigerator and when I get off the air tonight Oh seltzer Friday. Yeah, I like to watch my high school on YouTube because I'm a weirdo Joliet Catholic Academy You go back after work and go watch the game Yeah, I do I do if it's gonna it's it, you know, it's nostalgia bad reminds me of my grandfather beat them You know, it's it's weird. But um, you know, it's a good way to relax on a Friday night It's football it's it's purists I still run against my high school football team I used to do it makes sense because they tortured you cuz you played soccer. I like my high school baseball our basketball team Yeah, our team I went to Catholic school we saw but I wonder if sure what YouTube is their game I don't think they do cuz they're pretty bad. Usually I used to do the ice to keep stats on the Wednesday or Thursday Whatever it was game of the week. I'm out in the Wisconsin area with Mike McGivern when he was on the sidelines Yeah, that was Thursday that was encroaching on the NFL territory That was the only thing that I hated. Yeah, as I missed the I would miss the game, but I like doing it I thought I was gonna move up into the ranks of doing some I'm a big play-by-play guy Actually, I'd miss let me get back into play-by-play you too. It's promise.
I do it's pretty good And then no one ever calls me back. So maybe not that good I miss guys like us are really like I'm way better at play-by-play than any of this stuff But I would never have a shot because I didn't go to Syracuse and my dad doesn't call games on CBS Happy place emp.com. The promo code is Bart's 25% off each and every order While Green Bay plays this season, by the way, keep track of that because at the end of the year we're gonna take the 25% we're gonna take the amount of wins Green Bay has and then in the month of January that will be the Percent off so get them in now and then at the end of the beginning of next year You ride happy place emp.com Quick college picks.
Here's some games. We want to talk about Texas, Michigan, Texas seven-point favorite on the road in Michigan. I think I think Texas had I don't know. I I mean Michigan's gonna fall apart at some point Why not this weekend? Whoo-wee, this is the Ryan Horvat College football special of the week. I do think Texas is good A lot of people like don't want to believe in Texas.
I like Sark. I think Michigan covers I think seven and a half just too many points I get offensively like they don't even know who the hell their quarterback is But that defense is still really good and I could see Quinn you know, I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to do that Defense is still really good and I could see Quinn you were serving up a couple picks another Ryan Horvat hot take Quinn yours isn't the best quarterback on that roster. It's arch Manning and but they know it too, dude When he came in the game the stadium Electric the sidelines electric the huddle like the guys were Jack and he did you see he's he's fun He's not like Peyton and Eli just they're not gonna they're gonna ride you or is the whole year. He's got wheels He did like a little like that little like option pass thing for a touchdown. He's fun I know but you were struggles to stay healthy And if he does let's say this is the game where he goes into the big house Gets picked off a couple times and arch you could bet arch right now like 300 to 1 to win Heisman Like if you have five dollars laying around or you're one of those free bets might be worth it Cuz I think Texas is really good, but he scares me sometimes I would never draft when you were in the first round I would take shid or over him in a heartbeat, but I would take Carson Beck over both of them And that kid that just balled out for LSU.
I think is awesome, too. Anyway, give me Michigan plus seven and a half I like the under a lot in this game low scoring game big weekend for you last week in Notre Dame They now host Northern Illinois. There are 28 point favorite. They're gonna be favorited for a long time It's just about if they can cover or not.
Do you like them by 28? So back in the day when I went to Western, Illinois I had a buddy that would go to Northern Illinois and every once in a while We would go and visit him and I hated Northern Illinois. It was the most boring campus in my opinion We couldn't get into any of the bars. It sucked That said I think that they cover here the fighting Jordan lynches now I like it at 28 and a half wait till it goes back to 28 and a half I don't want 28 because that's only four touchdowns. Give me that fifth score though It's a lifelong Notre Dame fan like Brian Kelly would lose this game, right? Like they would always have a big win and then they would lose like Marshall and you'd be like Jesus Lord but uh, I like I I do believe in this coaching staff man and Marcus really needed that win. There was some pressure on him.
You saw it. He was pumping his fists He was jacked man, and I like him I do I do but I don't know that they're winning this game by margin I feel like this is the perfect letdown spot. You just went on the road beat, Texas A&M Now you come back home.
I feel like this has sleepwalk all over it. I could be wrong though I kind of hope I am and they went by 80 but just like History tells me they don't history tells me like maybe it's 13-7 going into the fourth quarter and I'm pacing around my house driving my wife nuts on Saturday on my kids birthday So that's the other thing I just want all these like games to be blowouts and just enjoy all my bets But I know that it won't be the case because it's Nathan's birthday. We have like people coming over everything I'm gonna be like bright red pacing around the house drinking in honor of Doug free the former Northern Illinois offensive lineman Then Dallas cowboy who once helped me keep a PlayStation 2 from being stolen in my college dorm I will take the I'm still gonna go in Notre Dame I think I think this is a different Notre Dame team and they're gonna they're gonna put the skis to the What are they called? I?
Don't know I was doing the fight time. What's what's in northern Illinois the what are they? Yeah, the ski. That's why I said that the skis to the Huskies. That's gotcha. Gotcha the skis I'm Iowa Iowa State is the SEC on CBS game of the week.
Oh, we don't do that anymore. I was a three-point favorite This is this is your this is your backyard Yeah, it is baby. It is Creston radio, Iowa scored 40 last week. It was insane So the total is the game where I see Mike wicket tweet more than I ever see him tweet the outside of when Kaitlyn Clark plays Big Kaitlyn Clark fan.
So the total in this game is like thirty six and a half. So I have to take the underdog I kind of like Iowa State. I'm a big Matt Campbell fan every year. They have a top ten defense Both of these defenses are gonna be awesome and both, you know The thing is I kind of like the skill position players a lot more for Iowa State and I like their quarterback 100 deckers more than I like Cade McNamara So I'm going Iowa State plus three and I'm betting it pretty big I bet the under but now like there's no reason to do that because like this thing just keeps going down It's gonna be real low scoring Iowa State for me. Go clones State number 24 host number 14, Tennessee. A lot of people pretty high on Tennessee after last week Or at least this game is in Charlotte Nine-and-a-half is the spread for Tennessee. Yeah, it's awesome This opened actually is a touchdown and I bet Tennessee huge at ten. I'm probably gonna play NC State I think that's like a crazy number, but I think that Tennessee probably wins this game by a touchdown by eight points That's right.
I would make this number eight. So I think ten advantage NC State if it goes back down around a touchdown Advantage, Tennessee, I bet Nico Imalayava the quarterback for Tennessee to win Heisman at 15 to 1 he's down to 10 to 1 I also bet Cam Ward 20 to 1 he's down to 8 to 1 but Nico's awesome and Two years ago Hennen hooker. They averaged 48 points a game and I think he's a better quarterback So I like Tennessee a lot.
They're really impressive to me. People are buying into NC State Dave Dorn always screws me I like Grayson McCall, but you know now we see and you see in better competition. I like I'm gonna stick with Tennessee. Actually, I'll go against everybody on this one.
Give me the vowels. So big weekend for us in Tennessee Tennessee Should we parlay the Titans and the vowels just the money line? I think you got a Oregon host Boise State This is a peacock inclusive cock Oregon's a 19-point favorite Oregon's got Oregon's got some steam to let out I think Yeah, like last week. They it's weird because they were they almost blew that game. I mean like they were favored by 80 touchdowns Wasn't even a good FCS team, but it was a weird game They were just driving up and down the field Dylan Gabriel actually played pretty good I think this week like Dan Dan Lanning. They don't really have a big game against a decent defense coming up for a long time So Dan Lanning has been trying to like oversell Boise State I think they're gonna go out there and just kick the living crap out of them and Show everybody that they're a pretty damn good football team.
So I bet it I bet Oregon I'd bet him up to 21 I think they win this game by like five touchdowns go ducks Why maybe the game of the week? It's unranked matchup to one and oh teams Colorado goes in Nebraska Big Ten Saturday night Nebraska six-and-a-half point favorite Yeah, I I think Colorado is the exact same team that they were a year ago. They beat, Nebraska. I Don't believe in this Colorado team So, you know, it's crazy. I waited all summer for this game like Nebraska revenge game They lost this game last year with Matt rule and year one much better Nebraska team. They got Dylan, Riola He looks just like Pat Mahomes. Everybody loves them But then I went back and I watched the Colorado game. I agree like Dionne sucks. That's the problem He's not a head coach in Division one football in my opinion not in the power five conference Secondary still not great even like Travis Hunter is awesome He's the best player in college football hands down but at the next level II I think he's a wide receiver and not a DB They give up way too many big plays, but I don't know I'm gonna pump the brakes on this one for pick picks up pick Sake, I'll go, Nebraska, but I'm not gonna bet Nebraska as big as I thought in that game, Colorado The offensive line was a mess last year.
She door got sacked the second most in the country over 46 times But they protected them. You have like three seconds in the pocket. The offensive line looked a little bit better I don't know this one weirds me out because I feel like now this year everybody's like screw, Colorado We're gonna bet against them and I can see them maybe like one in this game Colorado is so good for college football because they're like so So interesting in September and then yeah, you can move on to the real teams Yeah, I just like I think the obsession with them is a little bit weird. Like Mark Jones should never call another Mark Jones calling Colorado football games is the absolute worst Pairing of a thing that could happen. I Just I mark Jones is like he gets invited to a place.
It's a pretty exclusive place He gets in it's a couple hours there. People are accepting of Mark Jones being there and then he decides I Need people to make sure that they know I was accepted to be here and then he just mark Jones the whole thing like what I hate about him is It's what is this prep just studying lyrics of the latest songs that came out. That's not it. That's what I was about to say Like I love like a good pop cultural reference, right?
Like we all grew up That's why we watch Sports Center, right? And you know, I was a killborn guy and and you know Not everybody was but he's over the top, you know And Stephen Curry says like Young Jeezy I put on and you're just like what? Like what? That's that's my friend and then was he like defending neon against the I don't know oh god He sucks. I said it he's not good.
I don't think he's good. I Love Gus Johnson, even though he's like the but another he loves frickin Colorado, dude And Joe Klatt obviously like Joe Klatt loves Colorado because he went there So I heard him Joe Klatt went on Colin Cowherd show and said that Colorado could be in the playoffs this year And I almost put my head through a wall. There's defending Dion and loving Dion Then there's like saying just crazy crap like that I just feel like that Fox crew line are all those guys just love Dion love, Colorado Yeah, like he had a bunch of his games last year both Here's another hot take for you both of those shows suck now The only thing that saves college game day is watching Nick Saban, but they got to get McAfee I and I don't like hate McAfee or anything, but he's just not a college football guy Sorry, I mean he brings good energy.
I just why is his shirt always off and stuff though. I thought the thing about me about him is he Wades into these territories and then people like criticizes it criticize him and he's like, I'm not I didn't mean to be No, and I love I love McAfee. I think he does a really good show I like the show but what he brings is then it's like it's like both shows are terrible. Thank God I got my own show which yeah, watch me 9 to 10 a.m. Instead.
I'll get the kickoff. Boom But what I hate is it's like a giggling like it's like like a bunch of seventh grade girls then because like, you know He's telling his jokes and Herb Street's obsessed with them like Herb Street has turned like Herb Street turned to cook He is one of the people in media that I used to like the most This thing with his dog. Oh my god, no cares. Yeah, and people are like people are like Kirk leave your dog at home He's oh, no, I love my dog. He's my best friend, dude you said why do you think get this elevation where you can bring your Aging dog who just wants to sleep You have to cart him up these college football facilities where these dogs these dogs cower at the first sign of thunder You're bringing him to like Death Valley and shit Yeah, it's bad.
What are you doing? It's bad enough. They're dragging Corso out there. Still that makes me so uncomfortable Like let him do it. Let him do it from his backyard, man I'm always worried like last week when he got up to go dress as the leprechaun to do his dance I thought he was like going to die. I thought he was going to perish. He looks awful.
I'm sorry I hate to be this guy. I love him. I love coach, but dude. He's he's pushing like 250 years old you got McAfee up there ripping his shirt off. Oh, don't even get me started on des Jesus Christ the worst thing that you can see on a Saturday morning is when they're doing their picks and you're on the same side As does or when he's picking like the ACC.
He's like, I like Miami and you're like, no Money on fire. The first God is he he sucks like thank you for the for the for the Super Bowl and whatnot For your special teams effort, but get him off the air immediately. I Liked all the other guys that they got rid of I like David Pollock. I think he was really good Yeah, well, then they got that and then what like the peloton girl.
What is her purpose? Oh One shout out though on that show that remains consistent and awesome. Jen Lotta does great work every Saturday I'm in frickin tears on my couch.
My wife's in tears my kids in tears and it's because she does awesome work more Jen Lotta West dance More Jen Lotta Desmond Nada with all due respect to our good good buddy Obviously Well Horvat we had rapid fire and quick picks But we just love to talk to each other 55 minutes and 41 seconds. There goes my gym time today No, no lat work for me So if you see Odyssey's best-known secret is that we are great together and we are on different parts of the island Well, it's good that they don't listen to this podcast though, because they probably get mad at me for like something Yeah, every time I make a stop. Yeah, so let's say let's just keep this under the radar not exactly street-legal Yeah, like and subscribe but don't share too much with like when zach yelp asked me to host the show and they even shut that Oh, okay.
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