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I don't know that I should be recording an hour before I probably going to call in sick tonight but no I think I'm going to work. Welcome into the Winklerverse. It's our rendition of Mm hmm. We are back from our July hiatus, and it is good to be back. I of course sound like shit.
Like two or three times a year. This isn't even it. There's worse times. I have, I've been on the air in some really bad like why I don't call in sick I do not know.
This I still think I think this is probable. I you know I don't think I'm a questionable quite yet. How are you guys Hi Grant. Hi Bart.
I'm good. I've missed recording with you each and every week. Just getting to see Paul, and you Bart too but Paul, you know, Bart, how many, how many pounds are you down you look visually less than when we last did this. That's a compliment from a month ago.
Yeah, you look, you look, 510 pounds lighter from this angle. Unless it's just your cheat code Jones shirt thinning you. Well this is this is a shirt I have not been able to wear for a while.
I don't know. Take that Gary Ellerson. Oh my god yeah.
What did he say to me. You need to go up, need to go up one. Yeah, you need to go up one forgot about that. I did too. I since Christmas.
I'm down 30. Wow. Yeah, well done in a lot of intermittent fasting still intermittent fasting, and then walking less midnight cheese. Less midnight cheese still the same amount of 1 30am captains, only on the two days a week though right. I'm sure what you can't you're not intermittent fasting if you're drinking captain.
Well, my body doesn't take any calories and that doesn't count captain diet. Yeah. Okay, that's fine. That doesn't count.
That's fine. Even though Captain Morgan's like the most sugary thing on this planet. Besides those straws full of sugar. That's why I can't drink it and God I wish I could it just it just gin and tonic gin and diet tonic that's pretty clear. That's what I drink now because it does. How is your stomach.
How does your stomach lining still exist. I don't know. So I'm hovering around to right now.
Two bills. Really nice. Yeah, so I did see 199 the other day.
That's a fun one to get, isn't it. Well, thanks. I've been I'm humble about this. I don't.
Yeah, no good job. I want people to say something but I don't want to talk about it but then if I'm asked, I'll spend five minutes. I have you. It was it was noticeable. Have you been doing the Tom Segura thing where you are waiting for someone to ask how you lost the weight just so you can give the answer that you've been so excited to give forever. Well, I went into happy place hemp yesterday. And I haven't seen those guys in a while, like in person. And so as I was driving there I thought, I thought, I wonder, I wonder if they'll say something.
And then they did. And what did you say, and I was like, Oh, you think I don't know much just falling off. That's good. I'm not sure I'm not sure what you mean. Excellent. I get a lot of my steps in at night now after my show I'll just do laps in the building. Yeah, good. So I'll go to bed with like 5000 steps.
Perfect. Most people do them during the day but as long as you're getting your steps in I suppose it doesn't doesn't really matter when or where. Well, some would count it as that day. It's like I'm doing it that day. You're actually getting your work in before most people have waken.
As soon as my phone goes to midnight, we reset the counter. Yeah, I like that. All right.
That makes sense. Well, thank you for noticing. Good work.
You deserve the call out. But what if I get fat again? Well, I still am fat.
You're doing great. Well, 200 pounds. Wait, how tall?
Nevermind. I'm 5'10 and a half. And I am the half. Take the half of the half is there. Like, people are like, Oh, so you're 5'10? No, I measure exactly to the half.
What do you want me to say? I'm 5'11? I'm not. You want me to say I'm 5'10? I'm not fucking 5'10. I'm 5'10 and a half. I like that it's the adult male equivalent with height of like, my kids are five and a half. Don't call them five. They're not five.
They're five and a half. I feel like I'm at a very good height. Like, I feel like most guys should be my how tall are you guys? Are you like 5'9? 5'9 and a half.
Give me the half. It is true. Grant's like 6'1. Grant's like 6'3. I think probably 6'2. No, no. I feel like I should either be looking up to or at most people, most men. If I have to like slightly tilt down, so we're talking 5'7 range and lower. That's short.
That's disgustingly short. But Grant probably has to do that with a lot of people. Yeah, it's great. Why do you want to look at or up to people? It's way better to look down on everyone. It's so much better. Literally and... Yeah, physically and spiritually.
Looking down on the people. Paul was. I've only met Paul in person once. I'm not going to say he was smaller than I expect. That's unfair. It's not like he's small, but...
I have such a big presence and stature that it's like... You also angle your camera in a way where you're like lording over the whole show. This is just the height of the bar. I can't really like... You know, I didn't realize that. I know they're all shorter because that's what the sport pertains. But I was kind of shocked that Simone Biles is 4'8. Well, they're not. I mean, to be clear, like gymnasts are not usually that short. How are you 4'8?
Isn't she medically and legally a little person? Is that right? I don't know. I saw a tweet. I don't know. I saw a tweet. Who knows if it was true? Why would you lie about that? That's such a specific thing to lie about. Yeah.
Don't know. All right. With all that being said, we are back.
Once again, we came in saying we're just going to get right into it. And then I had to go and lose 30 pounds since Christmas. Those are usually the best openings, though, are the ones that are unplanned and it's just natural, organic. Oh, also I don't eat. Yeah, that's good. That'll help. You know, this is such a simple thing and maybe I'll conclude on this. It took me until my mid-30s for my doctor to use the phrase, you can't outrun your fork. Wow. Isn't that interesting? It's so easy and simple. It's not like but it really makes sense.
There's no amount of like working out you can really do if you're just going to keep in taking calories. Mine says you can't out crawl your bottle. Same shit they told me as a baby.
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NFL Sunday Ticket for out of market games excludes digital only games. All right. Ready for topics? How do we do this again? I say a thing you previously would have moaned or groaned. And now I typically have to remind you to actually say or no, I've been saving them up for a month.
I'm ready. Oh, goodness. I'll get after it today.
Well, OK, this one doesn't this one might not have like an emphatic because it's more of like you'll have to think about it a little bit. I used to at Fox Sports, I used to put together my like I would rank every packer. Most important. It was my most important series. It helped you get through like two months of offseason.
Slow time was like each day you focus on a player and number twenty eight. Most important is this guy. So I want to give you the five most important packers if the Packers are going to do better than they did last season, which is they have to get to an NFC championship game. These are the five players who are most important to that. And I'm going to say they got to look at the roster. I'm going to frame this as no particular order. So just maybe a maybe an obvious name will come up without having to look at it.
Let's find out the five most important Packers in some order. Who was that bell? Yeah.
For some reason, text messages are showing up like and doing a thing. That's me. Sorry. I don't care if I just wanted to know.
Yeah, I'm surprised that you could hear it. But apparently in some order are Jordan Love, Josh Jacobs, Jair Alexander, Rashan Gary and Xavier McKinney. You can rank them if you'd like, but in some order, if the Packers are going to have a better season than they did last year, which is to get to an NFC championship game, at least those are the five most important Packers for them to do so. Love, Jacobs, Jair, Rashan and Xavier McKinney or as you contemplate, I'm going to say, OK, I'm curious who's in that list. I am too. But I don't think I'm not I think I think I'm sort of scoffing at Josh Jacobs and Jair. OK.
I would put love in there, obviously. You said Rashan Gary. Yep.
I think Gary's my two. Yeah. McKinney is top five. He's got to be.
I think McKinney's top five. Do we put an offensive lineman in there? I wondered. I thought about it. I'm not putting a wide receiver in there because we feel like they're so interchangeable.
That was why I didn't. Yep. Kenny Clark thought about it. All right.
So I guess I will go. Could you say Quay Walker? Oh, and then when with Jacobs, who I love. I also am kind of buying into the A.J.
Dylan hype. I think I am. Whoa. Interesting. Yeah. I think he knows he's got a lot to prove.
And this is it for him. I think I'm buying into it. I also think I'm buying out of Marshawn Lloyd at this moment in time. Whoa.
That factors into that as well. You want some Lloyd stock? I'll sell it to you.
I would. Speaking speaking of stock, by the way, Big Ron called in. I tell you guys this. Big Ron called into my show two weeks ago and said, hey, you guys buy a theory.
Yeah. And then it went in the fucking tank. And yesterday he called in again and was like, I know how we can get our losses back.
And he recommended something else. I love Big Ron. So I do, too. I love when he calls in to the show and just gives me like bets. And he just gives you like the best Lebowski impression that you can do.
So round out your top five here. Did you see I had a guy tweet me the other day that I let a caller go on too long. I mean, that's the show. I don't know. It's always going to be the show. Yeah.
I don't like talking by myself. So when a guy calls in who says, yeah, I just like to park my car in the middle of nowhere. And there was some there was a mattress there. There was another car there. And I had it. And now I'm behind a motel and there's some lady walking around dressed a certain way.
I found a bear dead on the side of the road. Yeah. I'm not just going to be like, I did hear that call. I did hear this call that you had. I'm not just going to be like, yeah, yeah.
Tell me what you think about the Falcons. I'm gonna be like, excuse me, what now, sir? How do you how do you is that the parts unknown guy?
Yeah. Mark in parts unknown. Yeah, he's what's actually is perfect because the undertaker's name is Mark and he's from parts unknown.
Undertaker wants one more match. Don't. That's what he told Logan Paul on the latest episode of Impulsive, which, by the way, I did have that name trademark for my pod. And then that's do you think that's bullshit that he is using it because it's his last name?
Don't you think your first name should have more rights or your last name? Oh, good question. Because like when people are like, there's a lot of people that I've met in my life. They like, I'll go, yeah, my name is Bart. Oh, I know a Bart.
Oh, you do? Yeah. Jim Bart Thule. Or like, yeah, like Joey Bart. Yeah.
Yeah. Isn't that Bart? You call him Bart. I'm a fucking Bart.
But are you just far? What does that mean? Bitch? It's four letters, not enough to make a name.
Motherfucker. I think my top five, let's make this clear. Jordan Love is so far and away the most important player.
Oh, yeah. I was thrilled watching him last year. I'm happy that he got his deal. But if he comes in and plays mid all of the hype and all of the juice and all of the expectations lower drastically into love. I don't I don't know that.
I don't know that Jacobs is I don't know if he's that guy. But here's the thing, Paul. And this is explained to me.
Maybe this is why you put him in your top five. When Aaron Jones got hurt last year, they could not run the ball like half of their offense. Just they could. That was half of the playbook they couldn't use.
They straight up couldn't run the ball. Yeah. Part of the thinking, too, is that he is replacing Aaron Jones, a beloved figure. So you're kind of like in the fans eyes, in the playbook's eyes, you're trading one for the other. So you have to at least be as good as what Aaron Jones has been to, you know, not be like, well, if only they still had Aaron Jones and didn't do the Josh Jacobs thing. So in order to have that not be a thing, that was part of my reasoning. What about Anders Karlsson? On honestly, not a ridiculous suggestion.
Can I say something as a soccer player? Yeah. Yeah. I don't like how prevalent kicking is in football. I think it's really fucked up.
I think it's really stupid. I think it's really stupid that you have 51 guys that are out there busting their ass. You know, running plays and trying to offense, defense trenches, all this stuff. And then you have this big part of the game that is just like, doink, blink. It's like they just fuck around, don't do anything. And now they're getting paid five million bucks to hit a couple of field goals like. I don't think that kicking should be why it's the ultimate team sport, Bart. I'd rather kicking was out of the game and they just went for it all the time. I don't know.
I'm still workshopping what I feel about this. I mean, you are far from the first person to bitch about how kickers exist. So you. It's like it's like the same thing is like people are like, how do soccer players play for 90 fucking minutes? And then they settle it on penalty kicks.
And I'm like. How do football players grind for 60 minutes and then it's settled on a 45 yard kick through to goalpost? That's the difference. Well, what is the difference if if a penalty kick is deciding a soccer game that was one hundred and five minutes long, including stoppage time, and it was zero zero. It's not it's not really the way that the game is decided. I'm just kind of pissed at the game in general, because I that's a long time for nothing to happen.
But it was like, oh, no, there's some great zero zero games that exist. You guys are so you're you're gone. You're gone. You get to the Steve sometime and watch a scoreless nil nil. I saw a loons game and it was basically nil nil. Nobody scored for the final sixty five, seventy minutes.
That sucked. Oh, I don't like that they're called the loons either. Because they're not. Minnesota United. It's Minnesota United. And then they just like because that's what happened in Europe. Teams were called something united and then they the fans came up with a name. But everything that happened in Europe is so organic.
And in America, we're just like trying to catch up to all that shit. There should not be teams called Inter Miami and Real Salt Lake in a league where there's three teams that are united and then the Chicago Fire and then the New York Red Bulls. That's fine.
Sponsored by Red Bull. I'll accept that take. That's fine. Anyway, you want these Packers? I think McKinney that you guys can I can I squeeze a take that I've been throwing out this week into this conversation because I think it applies to McKinney and Jair, which are two defenders.
And Gary, actually three defenders that are three of your top five players. I don't think the Packers defenses, the end of the Rogers era in the last few years. I don't think the Packers defenses have been nearly as bad as fans would tell you. I think in 16 and 19, they were so bad that the offense didn't have a chance.
So take 16 when they couldn't cover Julio and 19 when they couldn't stop the run. I think the defense baseline, basically speaking, the defense was good enough. What they were lacking was the one or two guys that could blow up a game. They didn't have Clay Matthews and Charles Woodson like they had. I think the foundation of the defense is fine, just like I think it's probably going to be fine this year. What they need is those two or three guys or maybe just one who can make one or two game changing plays in a close fourth quarter of a playoff game.
And I don't think they've had that. So that's why I would I would include I would include McKinney because they paid him a lot. And I'd include Gary because somebody's got to get in the backfield and and make the type of plays that Clay Matthews did when they were winning late in the playoffs and going to a Super Bowl. Grant, let me give you something to consider for that take as you bring it to the masses that I think if you were to go through individual defense player grades in recent seasons, you'd ultimately come out and say like there was a lot of the grades for individual players were better than the overall defensive performance that is. Well, yeah, because they have good they have good players on defense. Right.
They don't have good coordinators that know what to do with these players. Right. So you start that that was essentially my thought with that.
You know, you've been planning out your take and I'm just, you know, on the spur of the moment here. But I've thought of it as like they have better players than what they've had total team defense performance. And so, yeah, I think that has spoken to the coordinator situation. And so I agree with with what you're saying. But I think there's that nuance there. I'll also say the offense is allowed to go in a game, too.
You know what I mean? Like, I think in so many of these playoff losses in the San Francisco game this last January included, both sides of the ball had an opportunity. Go put the game away with a score or go seal the game with a stop. But we always only talk about the defense and how they gave up like the defense needed one stop. They couldn't get it. Well, why couldn't the offense go get one more score? Right. Rogers had lots of chances to do that.
Jordan Love in the offense had a chance. So I I don't know. I think we we are much more critical of the defense than we are of the offense. I understand it. When Rogers was here, because that's how we viewed the team and we wanted to build up Rogers and we wanted him to be supported.
I don't know. The offense had a couple of chances against the Niners this last January to go win that game. And they didn't. But then the defense gives up the game winning score.
It's all their fault, as if the offense couldn't have possibly done anything more, which isn't true. Yeah, I'm just saying. All right. I guess I'm going to go love McKinney, Gary, the kicker.
OK. And an offensive lineman of your choosing the offensive line battles. I couldn't I mean, I do not give a fuck. I don't. Oh, come on. The way that some of these people are like, oh, I just.
OK, so we saw the unit that they lined up with and this guy was placed here. I do not fucking care. I don't notice them. I don't care about them. There's only five. There's only five.
There's two tackles, two guards in a center. How does how is that too much? If they can start scoring points in fantasy, then maybe I'll give a shit. Wow. And I've already I've already broken the shattered glass on this one. But my whole persona of loving the trenches, that was a flat out lie. Why do you don't care? I'm hurt by this. I do not care. I'm hurt. I don't like trenches and I don't like kickers. I only like what gets me fantasy points. That's it. You're partially presenting this take as a joke, but I know that it is not.
I'm not it's not a joke. It's you're tough to sometimes decipher your you know, your tone. You ever watch a game of football and when the ball is snap, you continue to watch the guys up front battle. So never fucking never. But there's a period of time in between the snap and the throw where it's very important.
Yeah, I see the highlight like, oh, look at this guy's move. Oh, what's happened to you? What did you do in the month of July? Who have you turned into what I do in the month of July? I can touch grass for the first time in my life.
Well, I got off of the Internet for two days. I'll still retweet stuff. Yeah. Grant your final five love Gary McKinney. I think Jair because I don't know that I trust anyone else at that position, which makes him important.
So we've hit all four here for me. And you know what? I'll say Watson.
Oh, you want to call it a specific one? I think so. Because I think when he's healthy and Jordan loves deep ball looks a lot better in camp so far.
It's guys are running under it. It just looks like he's taking a step there. And Watson not being good or being healthy, I don't think kills them. But him being healthy and being effective.
Remember, Rogers and Watson did not have deep ball chemistry. No. Remember that I you know, many times I picked up my kid and I like threw out a tweet at four thirty and then I pick him up at five. And as I'm picking him up, I'm like in Twitter fights. How many other moments of my life have I missed? Because I've been on my screen a lot, probably right. You know, I always when we did this more regularly before we took our July off, I got into the routine of just knowing I would come in with a couple of topics and then the rest would just be random random stuff.
Having taken the month off, I'm like, oh, that's right. I don't really have to prepare much because we're going to tangent off tangents off tangents. And eventually we'll answer the sports question. But yeah. All right. Sometimes I say we're going to sign over cosine and nobody ever laughs.
You're going to sign over. Say it again, because a sign over a cosine equals a tangent. That's nerdy.
Well, I don't consider this a tangent, but I would like to figure out how to go full screen for a second. Oh, that's grand. Off.
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We are all set up. Well, now on the Dan Cheney YouTube stream. Which we just saved a guy a thousand bucks over the course of the year. Speaking of Dan Cheney, I inquired yesterday about him taking over my insurance. Oh, good. Did he get back to you immediately? Very prompt.
Yes, he is very quick on the reply. Oh, and also I did remember what I wanted to bring up to start the show. Because when this happened, I thought, oh, this is what I'll bring up to start the show. I got pulled over again last night.
For unreadable license plates. And this guy was on me like a fucking hawk. So it was right after I left the studio. One thirty in the morning. I'm driving.
He turns around. I know he's going to pull me over. I mean, it's clear as day he's going to pull me over. For what? I have no idea. And then how do you guys get pulled over a lot like I do?
OK. These motherfuckers ride your ass for the longest amount of time. You know, the cherries and berries are coming, but they they ride it so they ride it long enough until you get to the point like, oh, maybe I'm not getting pulled. Just pull me the fuck over right away.
There's no one else on the road. Just pull me over. So my license plates are unreadable because they like fell off and I tried to sharpen back in. But I don't want the new ones.
Because mine have the three letters, three numbers and then three letters like the old ones. The story is not resonating with anyone. What what do you want me to react to here? I don't know. Yeah, sure. You know how all the license plates now are like a something something for numbers. Mm hmm. I don't want that format.
Who gives a that's the point. Every license plate looks the same. I want my three numbers, three letters. Wow.
Paul has got nothing. Of all the things that you could be bent out of shape about. It's license plates getting boring. I've been a big license plate guy. Used to be able to go used to be able to go in high school used to be able to go. Hey, Bart, what's what's Freddy's license plate? I say, oh, seven, eight, five p.m. to. I knew everybody's license plate.
How do you do? Some people are like, oh, well, he drives a Honda Odyssey. I don't fucking know that. I know what his license plate is. That's bizarre. You should get a custom license plate then. I was going to get Winx dogs.
W, N, K, S, D, G, S. You should just get a custom one with numbers and letters the way that you want it. I also that no one would I just paid for a renewal of these plates. Wow. I've never seen Paul less engaged with anything that you've ever talked about. I'm not sure what to do with this information. I'm not either.
This is a bizarre one for Bart. All right. Fuck. I don't even know what my license plate is. I have a picture of it in my phone.
I know it's ADL something. I used to know the license plate. What about when you go and go to a hotel and they make you write it for the parts? Well, I have a picture of it.
I did it last week. I sent you the picture of the hotel. Bitchin' hotel.
Oh, my quintessential Midwestern hotel and pool. But I typed in ADL in my photos and then the four numbers. I can never remember.
It's a combination of four numbers and I can never remember which order they're in. Yeah, that sucks. I fucking hate those. I'm waiting until it starts with Tim Shea next time. I'm waiting until it starts with B.
No, don't test this with Tim Shea. I want to hear the national audience yawn at this fucking thing. Well, this is a look at my my fucking hat is the license plate picture. I know. I mean, you're surprised I've invested in it. I bought a fucking hat of a license plate. You ever seen the logo for my show, Bart? Yes, it looks like this.
It very much does. Nothing. I'm good. Ready for another short topic? Bring this up in the pre-show meeting next time. Oh, my Lord. Let's see what Carlos with a K has to say about this. Carlos license plates.
Am I right? I want to hear him be like, sure. I think Charlie Baron's is headlining the state fair tonight. I'm going to knock him off stage and be like, Charlie, I've got a license plate bit.
That is better than any Fleet Farm shit you could come up with. Well, I think it must be that it's just two of us. I think you need it'll play better to a crowd. I'm sure that's the problem. I'm sure. Paul was on mute the whole time. Multitasking. And definitely, definitely enjoying the commentary.
Bart's talking about license plates. I'm going to send some emails. What do you got? This is what I wrote. How am I supposed to segue from that?
Okay. This is what I wrote down a month ago after Davante Adams was. Doing all his like, you know, media hits. And it started to just bring up the whole Davante conversation again. And. What I wonder is, is they were talking about like, oh, he goes to the Jets or, oh, he goes to here, but probably New York.
And then if this ever happened, but at the time it had me thinking of. If you could trade, you get the contract, you get, so you get Davante's contract, which is obviously a big contract. You get his age, which is obviously like an advanced age for a, for a wide receiver. You right now could trade Davante Adams for Christian Watson. Or if you could right now trade Davante Adams for Dontavian wicks or I would like you to answer those two questions for real straight up trade.
The cap being what it is, the dead caps, all the fun stuff that comes with it. I'm just going to spoil it and say to both. So I'm curious where you guys are at. So let's so take whichever one you want to answer both or that you would, how about that you'd rat, you would not trade either wicks or Watson in a one-on-one. Why are we picking wits and not dubs or read?
I prefer wicks and what they would be like, I think dubs, dubs is. Who's the, who, who have we agreed? That's what do we, what do we agree is the order?
I don't think we do. I'm guessing you could ask several different people. Love was like, I liked that he said that he's like, yeah, I want them all to think they're number one. It's the, it's the perfect answer. It's the, it's the right question to ask. And he answered it the way that, and that was always, what was the thing we complained about with Rogers?
He would look at his one good guy, he had one good receiver and he stared them down and it cost the Packers playoff games. So they don't have that. And that's a good thing.
So all right. I don't want, the reason I framed it as those two guys and not, I like Romeo, but I think the ceiling is lower. I like Jordan, Jayden Reed, but this, but like you're talking about a slot guy.
So you wouldn't really like be a perfect sub, a guy in sub, a guy out, you know? So that's why I went with who would be my two most untradeable wide receivers would be Wicks and Watson. If I had to create my, not to say that they're the best two, but they're the two that I would say are the most untradeable. If it was me running the front office, I don't want, um, I trust love to get into a spot where he's like, you know, cause with Rogers.
Devante is always the number one read. Yes. But that's also because no one else is any good.
Sure. But I like, I, I prefer this way where there's, you trust every guy and you're going to throw to what's the best because like, okay, I'm going to bring up Madden. But in Madden, sometimes I like realize that I didn't get my number one receiver, any balls because they're on the outside and I like to throw in.
So then I'll force it to him. And obviously I throw picks all the time. When I do that, if I just let the play develop and find what's open, then essentially the guys have the receptions that they're supposed to have by the end of the game. I would rather have four guys that are pretty even than one guy who's way better than everybody else.
Because I don't want like, that's why I think the bills are going to do better. Not focusing on Stefan Diggs all the time with this particular situation. The same reason and the same just look like I read a really tiny arm there.
The same way that it looked like I had like Deadpool arm. The same way that I think I have a perfect read on Aaron Rodgers. I think I got a good read on Devante Adams. Devante Adams, you know what makes Devante Adams happy? You know what makes him happy? Targets. No. What?
Being somewhere where he can think he's happier somewhere else. Sure. Like the old garbage song, Paul. He's only happy when it rains. Wow.
Garbage rains. Yeah. He likes, his disdain is happy. That's what he likes.
It sounds crazy. Oh, you just want to be happy. Well, why isn't he happy? He's with Aaron Rodgers. Not happy.
He's with his old college teammate. Not happy. He's getting a bunch of money. Not happy. He's getting a bunch of targets. Not happy.
What's going to make you happy? Going to the Jets? No, you're not going to be happy with the Jets. Because you're not going to be happy when Garrett Wilson gets some balls.
Or there's one game where you get three targets instead of fifth fucking team. I don't, look Devante Adams was great when he was here. Excellent. I don't want, I don't want them.
I don't, I don't like that kind of grass is always greener. You got to, you got to, what's the expression? You got to. Fight for your right to party.
Water your own garden. Something about where your feet are. You got to be where your feet are. Oh, grow where you're planted. Yeah. Love the one you're with.
Love the one you're with. Be active in your own rescue. Is that CSN or CSN and why? CSN.
Okay. I'm pretty sure. You got to, something where your feet are, but grow, grow where you're planted. Oh, I was wrong.
It's Steven Stills. Oh, just be where your feet are. It's an old Bible, Bible proverb. That was what I said.
Be where your feet are. Oh. The only time I ever read a Bible is when I go to a hotel and open it to see if anybody left a hundred dollar bill in there. Sometimes people do that.
So they cut out the pages and put in a revolver like the movies. Yeah. But so your answer is to both for the reasons you said a pretty clear definitive. Yeah.
Do we, can I ask a question before I get my answer? Yes. Are we, are we all in agreement here that the Packers assuming Jordan love continues to play well and progress, which I think we just kind of have to assume. Like, I think that's the way we have to operate based on that's the contract game. Would we all agree that they have a very nice Superbowl window the next two to three years?
I think it's longer than that. I mean, I know the contract, like the cap number starts to get bigger. I get it. It'll be harder to. Without I mean, they will read I mean from everything I've read and seen and heard like they'll in four years they renegotiated assuming Jordan love is playing well, but the. I'd say okay.
Okay. The best window Yeah, it's maybe in the two to three years while his cap number is less exorbitant. And they were just able to bring in Jacobs and McKinney similar I think the Superbowl comes in 25 or 26. Yeah, okay, the next two to three years. Yeah, okay. I think we get a cheese lions this year that that could have been such a quick answer from both of you, which is what I needed, but that's fine.
We got we arrived at the place we need to drive to the super the Superbowl is the next two to three years. The idea of adding Devante Adams to that group and still having whether you to trade Watson or Wix, an awesome supporting cast of receivers and tight ends around him is a little insane. Like I like Wix and Watson a lot. But I just think that I don't think you can say no to that. No picks the salary actually isn't that bad relative to what I mean consider how much money Brandon I use about to be paid by a team that's still probably not going to compete you know what I mean like it's a lot of money but it's relative to other number one wide receivers.
I, I just think there are people listening to this podcast right now who are like guys. I like Wix and Watson to but this is nuts. Obviously you trade them for Adams and I think I have to side with those people, but it's not but it is, and I know you're not saying this grant but it's not to say that Watson and Wix are individually better now that they will ever get to the point that Adams is that, but it's the two fold idea of the contract in the age, so I get why you're saying okay but there's a window so like hit the window and if Adams is better in the next two seasons than either of those guys is in the next two seasons, then it's an upgrade, but to the thing that part reference with the Jordan love interview and like the, I want them all to think the number one. If Devonta Adams comes in.
There's no more question about who's number one. Like, I don't think I don't really, I don't think that there'd be a situation where we've seen the video of Devonta Adams on the radar sideline last year and like how furious he is at Garoppolo and at the, at the bed that Devonta made for himself by making the free agency decision that he did. But I promise you Christian Watson Wix read these, they are not coming to the sideline and like just like I just, but Bart used to call Devonta Adams. The, what was it the quietest diva or the leaky diva sneaky diva, I think his diva in the league, Nicky Steve in the league is like he never was assumed as a deal and I think I still think for a wide receiver which is a very diva ask position I think that he's still not top 10 in that category but he used to be very like unassuming in that regard and then it was like oh like, never mind. So, I do like as Bart referenced granted one of the reasons I wouldn't do it, other than the contractual aspects and the age aspect even though I agree with your window thought at the is I like that the young quarterback the young developing quarterback does not feel like he has to feed the number one mouth.
I think Devonta Adams is excellent. Yes, but I think if you were to come back to Green Bay and rejoin this team. I think there'd be some element of when you go back to your high school, like I used to run this ship.
And then you walk around, you're like, you're expecting everyone to know you, and you're expecting everything to be just like it was in the olden days, and it's not in your like it's actually a little uncomfortable. Yeah, but I really not the same, but no not Adams would be coming back and joining a way different team. I like your analogy, actually, I just think that these wide receivers would say, Whoa, whoa, they would be big eyed with like Devonta. They would do a lot of stuff with love to like. Well, when I was with Aaron, what he would do is, oh, that would annoy me that that's a good point that that wouldn't he would, you know, he would he would wait a couple weeks and then he would, this is also speculative. Yeah, wait a couple weeks and then he would go like, Look, Jordan, I wasn't going to do this and you've been playing great. Don't get me wrong.
Like I'm loving it. Okay, that pass you had last week that I dropped was great. They probably Packers price should have cut me or trade me for a six rounder like Bart said in 2016. They did this thing with me that if you could work that in. Yeah, I don't want it. Sorry. Did you did you guys hear the fresh start aspect of this really important part? Sorry.
Go ahead. Did you guys hear the quote when Devonta Adams was on with who's pod cake? Keyshawn Johnson.
Do you guys see any of this? This is the type of sound that I like. I don't miss the sound bite because I have multiple shows and basically like Keyshawn Johnson. You might have seen this clip. I might come back to you was like, I think you're pretty stupid.
You were with Aaron Rodgers, and you left that to go. Do you guys remember this clip? And Devonta Adams is like, No, no, no, you got it all wrong.
Like, I'm actually the opposite of that. Like, and his quote was, I'd like I actually like to think I'm one of the smartest people that I know. Like, I think Adams and I know I'm going to I'm going to try to find that clip.
I think it's in my Google Drive somewhere. Johnson Adams. If you're trying to talk me into the trade that you like for the Devonta, you're not doing a good job.
You're proving why another reason why I would keep him away. Johnson and Adams edit in all caps. This is it. I actually want to play you guys because this is when I first played this.
I thought of I thought of you, Bart. I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to this and find it. Just give me a sec. Can I play it on the show?
I can do that now. Well, is there a tweet? Forget it. Did you see Kay Adams was asking the Packers how many songs you can fit on a CD? I did not see that. Yeah, and Rashaan Gary said 400.
By the way, can you fit more though? And you just they don't know it was like that you could get 80 minutes. You know what happened to me once? You remember when the Beatles came out with that one CD one that was like all their greatest ones? Oh, you're saying like, sorry, I was thinking like, sorry, I was thinking you were thinking you're talking like burned CDs, like how much room do you have on a burned CD? Right? That's what you're saying?
Yeah. Okay, sorry, go ahead. So I tried to burn it but I couldn't burn it CD to CD to put the songs on and then burn it on a CD. I did save the songs that it took me two CDs to do that, even though it fit all on the Beatles one. It took me to kind of like how Titanic was on two tapes. And if you're just in the mood for the crash, you just watch tape number two. So how many songs is it? By the way, is it like 12 to 15? Yeah, 80 minutes.
I used to burn CDs. I found the audio. By the way, this is about a 20 second clip of Devante Adams response to Keyshawn Johnson. I thought you want to play a little game called Guess What He Said? No, it's just Keyshawn Johnson being like, I think you're a game. It is.
This is Devante Adams like pushing back. We got this Netflix thing coming out. But when the real One 7 documentary come out, it's gonna be a lot that make you feel a little bit different. Hopefully you don't think I'm quite as stupid as what you do right now because I'm the complete opposite of that.
I like to think I'm one of the smartest people I know. There you go. That's Aaron Rodgers.
When the One 7 documentary comes out. That's what I'm saying. So if my answer before wasn't already definitively, it's very, very, very strongly. And despite this, Grant, you're sticking with. He's amazing.
He's a Hall of Fame. Look, there's there's building this perfect cutesy little team where everyone's the same age. I love that. But do we ever think Dontavian Wicks or Christian Watson are going to be as good as Devante Adams? I'm higher on Wicks than the other guys.
I really like Wicks, but I think Devante Adams is like the dream is Wicks turns into Adams one day. Yeah, see, but yeah, we're just we think that's okay. We think of this topic differently.
Imagine I trade for him in real life. I don't want to. I don't I don't think there's there's the interpersonal elements. And again, I'm not not trading Watson or Wicks for Adams is not a declaration of those guys are as going to be as good or better than Devante is or was. It's not saying that it's it's the the aspects that Bart addressed.
It's the contract element. It's just having the non not having a number one wide receiver. I think part of what will benefit Caleb Williams in Chicago is that it's not like, well, you you have this very obvious guy.
Like, no, he's not like three or four really solid wide receivers and tight ends to throw to and just pass catchers, I should say. There would still be that in Green Bay. There would still not.
Yes, there would be. There's two tight ends that you love. It's not like everyone else turns into chopped liver when Devante Adams shows up.
I love how much fan fiction we've written, like how he would act with love and like what he would say. Well, right, though. I know. I know. I think we are, too.
How can something that won't happen and hasn't happened be objective truth? But we've we've found a way. Grant, you have messed me up this week when you said something about Iook. What's that? What did you tell me that?
Why are we paying this much attention to this kind of guy? Well, no, I saw it earlier. I've just gotten annoyed. There's like an hourly update with Brandon Iook. There's more shit. And I've just been bitching about it on the show. I know.
And I thought earlier this week and I thought, oh, this is a mark take. It's like, has there ever been a player? And he's good.
He's very good. But has there been a a worst player who's garnered this much attention for this long of a time? And the Michigan story, it's like, Jesus, how do people like this stuff?
By the way, I have read no details. I just don't think the NCAA should be able to punish anyone for anything. It's like you guys don't even know what the hell's going on. And you want to be like, oh, Harbaugh broke the rule.
You don't even know what the rules are. I. Whatever. Can you can you see my screen? What the hell? Can you see it?
Yeah, I don't want to talk about this. I just was wondering how you say that word. Well, so I was talking about the 19 or the 1889 Louisville. And I think that you would say colonels, colonels. You would say colonels. But I'm because that's the word.
But I am willing to at least put out there that that particular baseball team may have pronounced it colonels. Did you get pushback on this? If like other than me, nobody cares about the tiny words I say wrong besides fucking you. First off, I do it because it's fun. And I, I think despite it sounding like you take offense sometimes, I think you actually are taking it in good spirit. And I think you like almost are like, you know, Grant texted back. I think he's doing it to test the listeners. I sometimes think you're doing it to like if Paul's listening, this is how I'm going to find out, because he's going to he's going to text me about this. No, you pronounce that kernel. I'm I'm I'm at least I want you to consider there's a chance that that particular I'm willing. Colonels like colonials.
If you were like the defense in this, I would say like you've put doubt into the jury's mind. Yeah. You weren't around in eighteen eighty nine.
We don't have any record of the language from then. There was a show we do. But the thing is, we definitely do, though.
It's not that long. Oh, you know what conspiracy I'm starting to believe more. Is this the right venue for this?
Go ahead. Yeah. Is that we were a much more advanced society. And then the library of Alexandria, I believe, got burned down. I believe that about Africa.
I think I think Africa had some I think Africa had they had air conditioners, man. Like, yeah, I buy into that. Yeah, I think so. Bart, what you basically just are talking about right now with that is have you been on Spaceship Earth recently at Epcot? No. I just I just you know, I haven't gotten around to it, Paul. Just not on my list. Not recently. No, but it's just that I do got to pick up some stuff for my kids party.
I got to get a haircut this week. And then if I if I can circle by Spaceship Earth at Epcot. Yeah, I'll get right in there. I was kidding, obviously. But they have a whole thing about how language was advancing and then civilization was libraries and it doesn't we had a dark ages. Bart, have you tried to explain to your young and about like, how long ago dinosaurs lived and why then they didn't overlap with humans. And then, like, as ever, is this Have you gotten to the dino stuff yet? It's really a fascinating new chapter that we're on the birthday party this weekend is dinosaur themed.
So have you gotten into like the nuts and bolts of like dinosaurs are? He knows they're all dead. Yeah. And he says, Are they dead like Rudy? And I said, Who's Rudy? Oh, no, Rudy's the guy that used to live in our house. Well, before we moved here, Paul, he didn't like living in our house with us. He knows the name of the previous occupant of your home. Yeah. That's right. Why do you know that name?
Yeah, no shit because I get mail for him all the time. You had a piano service here. Was he a piano tuner? Yeah, but I also think he was blind. You can tune a piano, but you can't tune a fish.
That's probably that is probably why he was so good at tuning a piano and elevates your other senses when you lose one, like Daredevil. Sure. I have a bucks question that I've been holding on to for a month.
Should we save it? No, I just I have no capacity to talk bucks. How is it that Yanis Antetokounmpo plays basketball in our state and that team feels so so backburnered right now.
That's unbelievable. They have a top three basketball player in the world. And it's like, and dame.
And it's like, why would I? Paul, if you'd like to, it's not my podcast, actually, ask Bart. No, I don't want to talk bucks. The basketball team on my mind right now is the Raptors because for my kids Dino party, I'll be wearing a Tracy McGrady Raptors jersey. Is it Saturday? I could come. I my significant others out of town all weekend and I actually don't know what I'm going to do. I actually DM Jerry Windish and is like, Hey, have you ever fished in this spot? I'm thinking about going.
Oh, yeah. Go fish with Jerry. I want to. He doesn't. I'm getting left on read by Jay.
I don't think you read it. Oh, Jerry. He'll hear this. Jerry, get back with Grant. This was actually the fastest way to get in touch with Jerry.
I could have his cell phone number. This is probably the fastest way. That's funny. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Jerry, please respond.
If you say you have Winkler Wednesday, right? Yeah, we're going to wrap up. We got something else.
Let's just, I'll hold the other ones for next time. We'll keep this one entirely Packers and. Oh, wait. We got Packers roster move announcement. I saw it. You want me to read it?
The Packers have signed DL Brevin Allen, kicker Alex Hale and DL Zach Morton and they waved Rory Starkey and the Don Callis family. That's the one that hurt. Bummer. Bummer. All right. You watch SummerSlam, Paul, or don't you care now? I, I'm aware of it. I watched the whole thing with my kid all four hours.
He loved it. You want to go to Smackdown? I'm going to, I'm going to take him to Smackdown. You are going to?
Yeah, November. Wow. Okay.
I'm taking him. I only show my kid real wrestling. You guys got a new Japan tour that you're going to see right after I swing by Epcot, I'm going to hit up Tokyo Dome. You guys just in harmony hit Tokyo Dome? No, he said Tokyo.
I said Tokyo Dome. Okay. Okay. I'm a little more knowledgeable about Japan and its history. Yeah.
If Grant would have come up with Tokyo Dome, that would have been pretty cool. All right. Well, it's good to see you guys. We've been off for a couple of weeks. This is fun.
You know, license plate. I don't know what to tell you, Bart. Normally, I love, normally I love your thing of I get mad about things no one else could possibly get mad about. I was more mad about the cop riding me.
That is true. They get you to the point where you're like, just do it like you like you want to be pulled over like you want. They just torture you. I almost pull myself over.
I know. It's just like, I'm just going to. But if you pull yourself over, do you do they have to keep going? I actually don't know how that works. Yeah. How would that work?
I don't know. Have you ever thought a cop was going to get you on the highway and you're like the next exit and you're bouncing around fucking. I've done that before, but not on the highway.
Yeah, I do it all the time. All the time. What are you doing that you're constantly beating very fast. I drive very fast. You go on 94. A 94. Where do you set your cruise control when you're going on 94?
Okay. Very specific on 41 up and down. I go 80.
What's the speed limit there? 70? Yeah. Okay. On 94 Madison and Milwaukee.
I go 85. Jesus. Okay. I'll indulge you with this conversation for a minute because you just found a spot that I think is interesting within it. What I'm about to say will not surprise you. I think you guys know me well enough to know that what I'm about to say will be like. You plan out the speed limit you have to go on each trip you make.
No. That one also would not be a surprising take, but I don't do that. I am happy that you get a lot of speeding. I want you to get pulled over if you're going back. I like when I've been pulled over 20 times. I only have one speeding ticket. Well, that I think you should have 20 tickets, but I at least want you to be like. I want wrongdoers to be like, okay, well, you sped like the rule is this and you broke the rule and now this is the punishment. So I wish that all 20 of those results. I'm sorry for your bank.
I wish those. I don't like that. You shouldn't do that.
I wish you wouldn't do that. There's a speed limit. Follow. How fast do you go? My guess is 74.
You set your cruise control. It's 74. Sounds like he doesn't go over 70.
No, see, I'm not. There's like, you know, there's like, there's about right. You know, 74. That's the speed my dad goes. So that's that's that.
Yeah, that's what I would bet for you. Yeah, but there's like an agreeable over it where it's like, okay, yeah, that's fine. No one. No one minds the four over. But well, so we were driving back from Appleton the other day. It was just slow, slow down.
There's the rules are the rules. I can't. We're driving back from Appleton. My kids back there. And he's gone. Pass more people, daddy. Pass them. And then I pass someone and he just goes like.
It's the greatest thing that's ever happened in his life. So not only did you not speed. Okay, that's a little bit. Okay, you shouldn't still do it, but that's fun.
Not only did we talk for an hour when you're sick, but you have you've like exerted your voice on several occasions. I'm really wondering how much you're going to pay for this at midnight tonight. Do either of you. I have a passion for Interstate 94. I drove to the western terminus of Interstate 94 last week, which is what it's called.
Billings. I don't know what that means where it begins and ends the western beginning and ending the terminus of 94. I saw it. I drove through it. I drove past it, actually.
So I got off and then got back on the come back. There's a there's a there's a ninety four booth at the state fair. Someone said it's just I ninety four. There's people there on behalf of the interstate. And I I kind of want to go. What are they promoting?
What are they? Just I ninety four. Paul, I don't know who benefits from promoting of ninety four. Well, it sounds like Grant might go buy a ticket just for that alone.
I think that's a bit. Well, I got a lot going. I got a lot of real estate this weekend to do things.
I might try to go fishing with Jerry and I might go to the state fair just to see what the I-94 booth is all about. And you might have possibly gone to Bart's kids birthday party, but when he brought it up, Bart completely no sold it in. It's just kids in his class. It's just kids in his class. I've been told by adults your age that adults do go to kids birthday parties.
Have you grown out of that? They're parents. OK, OK, OK, fine. That's fine.
I mean, Grant showing up in his mustache to this kids party when no one knows them. I suppose I said that's fair. I threw it out there. I I didn't say I didn't bring it back up. Paul did.
Paul did. I was I was willing to skate right by. That's fine. This is fun. I missed you both.
Same. We will talk next week. Bye, guys. See you guys. And thank you all for coming into. Bye, Paul. The Winkler verse. No sell Paul McGee, my fucking cry.
