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Good morning, everybody. It's okay. It's fine. Good morning, everybody. Ah, just my voice again.
Too bad it's like my instrument Whatever. It'll get better. Grant Bills, Paul Emig. It's mm-hmm mm mm day. It's also As we release this.
It is tailgate day. Yeah. It is tailgate day. A Matt in the Falls that asked me if I'm nervous. I told him I'm excited for it to be a memory.
Yeah. I just want it to go well. I think it will. I think we're going to be prepared. My alarm went off so I could wake up to do this.
I think we're going to be prepared. I think I'm gonna I'm bringing name tags Are you really? I think we should. That's that's sick. Let's go.
And uh And I'm bringing waters because now it's going to be like a fucking hundred. And they told us our Apple Weather app was wrong. Yeah, now they're telling us. We're still wrong. Cause feels like doesn't count.
Well, then why'd you post it? I'm a meteorologist. I'm also um What? I feel like Apple Weather's close enough. Like sure.
Maybe it's not the best, but... Ballpark is fine. It's going to be hot as hell. And they told us that we were wrong. Yeah, I mean, what's the difference between a hundred and a hundred ten?
Yeah. Yeah. Miserable versus a little bit more miserable. I think we'll be okay. I think we'll be okay.
Just fainting on me. I also like that you just scheduled it. Not only did, of course, you do it on like the hottest day ever. But There's an event happening downtown Milwaukee on the same day, so I'm sure traffic will be very. Easy for you all.
Well, who's like, can you go to the debate? I don't know how that works. I signed up to win a package from the Ron DeSantis campaign to spend the day with him and to come to Milwaukee to enjoy the debate with a front row seat, but I did not win.
So whoever won that is getting to go. I don't know about the rest of the crowd. I mean, I'll look right now for tickets. Is it a ticket thing? Like, you can just like.
Hmm.
Well, because I don't think they want They don't just want like a group of liberals to get in there. And like boo everything. The event is not open to the general public. There you go. You have to know someone politically connected to get in.
Your boys are Dan Schaefer. Aren't you? Can't he get you in? Oh, is Dan going his press? I don't know.
Or making it.
Well, I I'm I'm I'm busy. I have a tailgate. Post-game show, though, after the debate, a wrap-up debate wrap-up. That would be electric. Oh, like the spin room.
We'll do our own spin room. Mm-hmm. Uh cool.
Okay.
Well, speaking of anything else. Yeah. Great to be with you, boys. Grandpills, Paul Emmig. Mm-hmm.
Put my kid to bed the other night. My kid at night is getting like Weird that he doesn't want to be around me. Oh no. Only at night. Is that like mom time for him?
No, he says That's when daddy worked on his computer. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like cats in the cradle over here. Oh yeah, for sure.
That's rough.
Now, as I've mentioned, I'm in this period where, I mean, we have the tailgate, so. Oh my god, guys, how long can I ride this out? You sound like RFK. Right. Junior.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My son won't see me before he goes to bed. And I don't know why.
What was I saying? You were, I don't know, trying to chase. I have the tailgate. Yeah. I worked on Monday.
August 21. My next scheduled date that I have a sh Shift. is Sunday, September three.
So am I on vacation? Or unemployed. Yeah. You're you're on unpaid time off. Yeah.
I agree with that. I agree with Paul. Mm-hmm. Well, let's ask a couple questions. I have a I have one that I'm really excited with and I hope you'll let me start with it.
Can we begin with a Chuck and Winkler question? Sure. All right. This one. This one I think will be a good discussion at the old tailgate.
Yeah. And I preface this part, I shouldn't have to, but I'll do it for the sake of your audience. Uh Yeah. That all forms of Chuck and Winkler were things I enjoyed. All right, you know that.
Um The Chuck and Winkler show. Chuck and Winkler. was at its best. When Bart and Chuck did not like each other. Mm-hmm.
Or mm-mm. Bart, your thoughts. I've thought about this question constantly since the reunion episode last week.
Well, one thing that Jake had told me or or tweeted Once he thought It was too pleasant this last episode. But towards the end he thought he could feel And I I didn't I didn't I didn't agree with them, but. I think like there needs Maybe there needs to be the threat of it blowing up. Without it blowing up. If you watch, if you listen to Chuck and Winkler.
It needs to be like watching a guy on a tightrope. Like, walk across buildings. For sure. He's not going to do this. If he's gonna die in front of you.
But he's on a tightrope between two buildings. He might die.
So I don't I don't know. Maybe people like that part of it. Um Like, no, I don't want I don't I don't want to go back to that.
Well, so I'll just interject briefly just to say that I mean, some of that couldn't have, like, some of that could not have been good. Oh, it was all good. From a listener's perspective. Oh, it was very entertaining.
Now, having said that, my brief interjection is to say that. I remember messaging with you at the time where I said, I'm sure this is not good for you. Bart. Like, I'm sure this was it was not when the things got really, really tense. And I'm sure it wasn't good for your like blood pressure and your heart rate.
And I would not advise it as your friend to continue. It just wasn't probably, probably wasn't good for you. As a listener, though, oh my God. Those tense moments were Radio Gold. Uh, I thought.
I thought it was great.
Well, I don't I don't Like with all With all the entertainment options out there in 2023. I don't think that uh Listening to Too like Losers argue each other about respect, is what anybody needs these days. It was more like it was more when it was like the Now, the alpha thing has become a joke between the two of you, and between, you know, but when it was like a real debate, where it was like, no, no, no, player, like, this is what an alpha does, this is how an alpha talks, and when it was things like, You saying, like, your babe, no, I would say your babe Ruth stuff, but the one that sticks in my mind. And I I only think. I think you were only partially joking back in 2017 or 2018 in that time range when you said if it would help the brewers.
Go to the World Series or win a World Series, you would jump. Onto the field to grab the ball and get arrested. And like, it was this whole long story that you had. And Chuck was like, Bart. You don't mean that.
And you're like, no, I mean, like, if it's to help the Brewers win the World Series, of course I would. Why wouldn't you? And he's like, You can't say that. You can't say that on the radio part. It was the most wonderfully awkward thing ever, maybe.
He also didn't like when um I said, I want to s I want to turn over a car at a parade.
So yeah, that was another one. But I would buy the car. I remember the Yeah, that's right. Be responsible for its removal. That's right.
I just want to. Experience flipping a car at a parade. I was going to try to do my chuck. Ugh. Bart.
Ugh. You can't. You can't see it. That's pretty good. It's pretty good.
I forgot about the car flipping. You got it all laid out. I will buy the car. I will do this. I will do that.
I forgot about that. Yeah. I say I say I'm saying mm-mm. At its best, when you guys get along. Yeah.
I Both versions are great. Both versions are great. At its best, When there was hatred boiling. Grant tailgate attender, your thoughts? I don't think they needed to fight to be good.
Correct. I think they'd fight too much, and then it would just be like, ugh. And Bart would feel it. He'd be like, we can't do this again today, Chuck. We can't do this for a third straight hour.
But it was entertaining. But you guys were great even when you were in a good mood and you were getting along. Yep. It's not like you had to be arguing. And I do agree that if you did a show today, I think it would be different, Mark, because I I don't know.
I I'm with you. Like I j I th I I think you've evened out. I've matured. You've matured. You've matured so much, you're saying matured now.
Have you matured to the point yet where you call it an envelope? Yeah. I think I am an envelope guy. Oh, see now that's a sign of maturing. I need an envelope.
Yeah, yeah, envelopes. Envelope. Yeah, I go envelope. Oh really? Do you go nons or aunt?
Like for your uncle's wife? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Aunt is the most pretentious thing. All right, well, the answer is aunt, so you can take that pretentiousness and shove it because it's. You say aunt?
Uh let me think about in real um Yeah. Yeah. I can't even get my lips to do that. There's a U there, a U. And there is a U.
Paul is correct. No, what about anti? Auntie Ann's pretzels. Like, is that where you're going? Auntie Annie's pretzels.
I would say Auntie Ann. Oh really? Sound a lot better. Oh, I would not. Auntie is like.
Hi, Auntie. Uh say saying aunt. Is like going to the front door of your house and going inside. Saying aunt is like. Walking all the way around the house and then going, it's like you're stretching it out for no reason.
Okay.
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GRAANGER for the ones who get it done. I'm here with Grant Pills and Paul Emig. On today's episode, see my voice is better. How great is this? Wow.
Okay.
I did go to bed last night pretty amped up to get to talk to you gentlemen this morning. I don't know what it is. This week, I was just really looking forward to it. I was too. There are times, there are, there are honest, I mean this sincerely, there are times more than others where I'm just like, all right, let's is it is it time?
Is it Tuesday morning? This is one of those.
So uh I did want to say that if I'm going to do like some sort of show during the tailgate. We're going to be playing music, so it's not new. I am putting together a Bart Winkler Show Tailgate playlist on Spotify. I'm trying to remember all your old bumpers. And I remember some, but I'm sure there's some that I'm forgetting.
We'll make sure you get even flow. You gotta have Universal. You gotta have Rage Against the Machine, Bulls on Parade. Less I Know the Better. And that song by Caesar: Jerk It Out, Shake It Out.
Figure it out. Jerk it out. And then, though it wasn't bumper music, I think you'll need a few hits by the band called The Weekend. Yeah. Correct.
I think that'll be just, you know, for storyline's sake, that'll be important. Correct. Bart, you did bumpers very well. In my opinion, that's the sign of a true radio person. Because I listen to some stations, some shows, and it's like.
They just, they don't get it. They don't get it. It doesn't click for them how it's supposed to sound and how this is supposed to work. There's just a lot of people that don't get it. And before all of my coworkers get it, I believe, but I listen to other stations, and it's just like, you got, yeah.
Every time I listen to the brewers on the radio. I always catch The Gavin DeGras bumper. And it's good. Is it right? That's the first.
I agree. That's a tremendous. That's a great bumper. I like when they do. They do Boulevard by Jackson Brown.
I think that's a tremendous bumper. They have a country song that's a real raider. Real Rager. Shit. Which one is it?
Well, now I'm going to. I have a second playlist to make now. When I worked at KFIZ and we did high school sports, I would. Take the brewers, what they did as bumpers and use them for our high school bumpers to stay. consistent.
So the station has a consistent sound. See, this is beautiful. Radio guy. Not in radio, it's a travesty, anyways. Paul, I'm monopolizing your show, Paul.
Please. No, it's all good. All right, now I have a. Packers won. Uh not a Chuck and Winkler.
Verse Chuck and Winkler Verse. All right, Bart. Can I complain about Bob Euchre for a second? Whoa. Sure.
No, there's just one commercial now that they run too. Where it's like a QA, like Bob's asking like a guy about I don't know, setting up a deck or some shit like that. You know, those, those, those type of commercials. Trex composite decking.
Well, I don't know. But Bob It's re it's clearly recorded separate. And the recorder that they use for Euchar. Is way worse. Like this guy recorded it into a microphone, and you could record it like.
The phone was recording and he was on the other side of the room. It's just really sloppily edited. And I know that Bob's time. you know it's bob euchre But You can, you can, even if he's not gonna come to the studio. You can get a nice piece of equipment in his face for five minutes.
Okay.
Yeah. I mean, how old is that? Oh, yeah, yeah. I like it. I like it because it hasn't changed in years and it's just kind of shitty.
That's why I love that commercial. I hate the. Oh, yeah, yeah, you bet. You bet. It's just dudes being dudes.
We don't need to, not every commercial needs to be the world. It can be kind of silly. All right. So less a complaint about Bob and more of a. Yeah.
That's a production complaint. That's not a bot. That's not a talent complaint. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Bart, you suggested, and I wrote it down so I wouldn't forget. You suggested during the time. Does anybody want to know what's behind me on my Dan Shaney YouTube stream? Yes, very much. You can interject all these things before you let Paul start his question.
And then, when you're done, let Paul start. You wait until Paul starts and then you jump in.
Somebody left the pause so that you could have maybe said something else and then They made me a drawing of the Bradley Center. I see that. That's a planter's peanuts mirror that used to be at my grandma's. I just put the WBA award up. Nice.
That's the 1990 Packers with everyone's autograph except for. Brent Fulwood. Yeah. My wife got me this, and then I thought the Packers were gonna, she got me that in 13. Because then I thought the Packers would win.
It's a four-time Super Bowl champs. Uh. I thought it'd be outdated. There's some other shit.
Okay.
But uh should I try again? Yeah, ask Grant. I'm going to go give my son a hug. Goodbye before school.
Okay.
The only way Paul's going to get through his question is if you leave.
So maybe that's a good idea. Yeah. Okay, leave.
Okay.
I think I hear him stomping. Couldn't tell what that was. All right, Grant. Bart suggested during his Friday episode. And then he said the following.
He said, you know, maybe I'll, maybe, maybe Paul will bring this up.
So I'm like, oh, I will take the cue. He's probably since forgotten. He said Well, he was debating whether it was a more important season for Matt LaFleur. or Jordan Love. I don't know if you've talked about this.
I don't know. I'm not usually up on all the latest Twitter conversations as well. To me, it was something I had not personally considered or thought about. I am going to ask you whether you think this is a more important season. For Matt LaFleur.
Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. Yeah, yeah, I think so, because I think he's under the gun in lots of different ways. Like, yes, he needs to call the right offense and set Jordan Love up for success. And that's really important this year because I think for years, Paul, we've said we just want someone who can run the offense.
Well, that means that your offense better be pretty good. Right, if you're getting rid of a quarterback, and there were lots of reasons they got rid of Rogers, but if you are moving on. For a quarterback that does less and simply runs your offense, that means your offense better be pretty good.
So, the offense better be pretty good.
So, Matt LeFlur is obviously the gun or under the gun for that reason. I think that He is going to have. His work cut out for him this year in getting some of the veterans. to buy in and to wrap their arms around a season. Where they'll probably take a step back.
Yeah, you know what I mean? Like they went nine and eight last year, or eight and nine, but there was the threat, there was the promise of them being a postseason contender right until the bitter end. Yeah. If they get to week 10 and it becomes clear that they're not in the postseason race. Then he's going to have his work cut out for him with players like Devondre Campbell and Rasul Douglas and Jair Alexander and Kenny Clark.
getting those players to still wrap their arms around the season. and be excited about working with the young guys and making progress with the young guys. That's not really something that a Packers coach has been tasked with. A long time. I understand that there were down years because of injuries, you know, 2017, 2018, but.
An honest-to-goodness team that just isn't good enough to make the postseason, possibly, and a coach needing to sell that to his players and to his locker room and still keep things building in the right direction-that's a big task, and that's ultimately going to be Matt LaFleur's task. And if Andres Carlson stinks and has some hiccups, that's something else he's going to have to sell to his team.
So I think not just from a schematic standpoint, Matt LaFleur has got a lot of different things on his plate this season.
So, yeah, I'll say Matt LaFleur. Barn, I'll reset this for you in a moment now that you're back, but I'll just respond to Grant real quick. more than likely. You know, you're talking about like the veterans in the the locker room who We'll have What type of thoughts will they have going on if the season's like three and six or something, and not like a three and six where it's like, things are turning around but like the three and six where it's like okay this is just what we are David Battiari is not a Packer next year, right? I think we mostly agree on that.
Is Aaron Jones? Probably, I know he said this four years in a row, but it's probably not. Is A.J. Dillon? He's on the last year of his rookie deal.
Maybe not a Packer next year. Is Rashawn Gary? Like, is he going to get the extension? I mean, I think we assume he is, but he's coming off the ACL. Are they going to, how long are they going to wait to offer him an extension?
Will it happen before March of 2024 when he's officially a free agent?
So if you start to go into business for yourself, because you're like, well, I don't, I'm not under contract next year. Or if you are under contract, it's a very lightly guaranteed situation.
So there's a lot of really key players who, if the season is not going well, will have to be Managed, coached in a particular way. Bart, to reset it for you, you suggested this. I'm curious if you remember saying it, but you said this during your Friday episode where you. contemplated momentarily of Who is this more important season for, Matt LaFleur or Jordan Love? And you said, Maybe we'll ask it during so I jotted that down and remembered it.
Do you recall this at all? I don't even know who you are.
Okay, so that's that. Then you definitely don't remember what you said four days ago. I do remember.
Okay, so I wanted to ask it. I thought it was an interesting thought that. That Grant just answered. Not sure how much of it you caught before you returned. This is a more important season.
For Matt LaFleur. Than it is for Jordan Love. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. My son was cats in the cradling me.
He's like, I don't wanna give daddy a hug. Oh no. I think, well, first of all, do you like how everyone is like? Oh shit, Jordan Love might be good now. Even McAfee had a.
I saw.
Now, grant, you wouldn't see this because you're blocked, but. I saw his three minute clip on Just how good Jordan Love looks. But let me say something. Hold up, but nationally. Nationally, the talk is how good Jordan Love is, and locally.
At least in some sections of the interwebs, it is like the Sean Clifford nonsense.
So, like, the national story is evolving in a positive direction. The local story is in a bit of a weird little moment here. But, sorry, go ahead. That's because we get like. There's so many takes in preseason, and we're all trying to extinguish this one.
Yeah. All of our energy is like.
So we're at we're actually amplifying it. Yeah. Like, just let it be. Yep. Um Okay, so two things.
One. Before I answer your question.
Okay.
I don't want McAfee talking about love. I don't like when he does it. You're a Rogers show. You're Rogers guy. Also, who's the guy that's a Packer fan on their show, Ty?
That sounds right. If he's a Packer fan, that's great. He's like become like the most notable Packer fan. I don't like that. I don't like that all Packer questions go through this man.
And then he gets to talk to Rogers and he's on ESPN like Him?
Okay.
Also. I Her I Watch Kurt Benkert on Twitter. And I understand what he's going through. He feels like he was wronged and he wants to be vindicated. And this was the story of my life.
But What Was he wronged in? This guy was released as the quarterback. He never complains about not getting a chance to be a quarterback. He's always complaining about. The social media dep the the social media department It's probably like The third string quarterback walks in and says, guys, I got all these ideas.
And they're probably like, ah, Kurt, that's not how we do things. And he's like, oh, they were so curmudging. No, it's the third string quarterback walking into the social media room. Yeah. Like, why are you here?
Go win the job, Kurt. Go try to play. What are you doing? You had a nice game in the preseason. Go.
Build on that.
So it's like Does he want to be a quarterback or does he want to be in social media? I don't It's just weird. Like every time I open up my for you tab. It's I would I told you so about this. And anyway.
You know what you could do. Mm. You could block him. Oh, wait, just kidding, you cannot. Block him.
Well Okay, well I can. Um I think it is a more, well. Is it a more important year for love or lefleur? I think because it well, if love sucks. He's done.
Wait, wait, wait. Say that again. If Jordan Love sucks, they will move on. What uh After one starting season? If he sucks.
You You think there's a scenario outside of recovery from an injury, like an ACL situation, that Jordan Love. Is not the 2024 week one starter?
Well, I don't think so because I don't think he sucks. But let's just, I mean, just play it out. Like, how. I don't Think there's a Zach Wilson level of bad, he would have to be. First 15 and 15, then they're drafting Drake May.
But would they start in week one of this rookie season when that has been when this whole thing is about all you sit? I'm not saying you would sit Drake May for three years. And I don't watch Drake May is, but like, you, I don't think you would. I don't, would you? I don't know.
Okay, so that's the scenario. If you're 2 and 15 and you draft Drake May, that's the scenario. Where Jordan Love is the starter.
Well, I'm just trying to think like where the urgency is.
So Is there a scenario where Jordan Love's not the quarterback next year? Is there a scenario where Matt LaFleur gets fired? Yeah, I think they're both. Here next year, we're Probably regardless. I think that's I think that's.
I would agree with that. But if If love looks good. And they're like six and eleven. I mean We don't know if Jordan Love is good. We don't know if Matt LaFleur is good.
Who do you think is more likely to prove to be good? Love. I agree with you. Whoa, interesting.
Okay, say more. I don't know. I think they'll get guys open. Did you hear my great? I don't know if you caught.
So here's my great. Take that I brought to CBS Sports Radio. And when I do so much CBS Sports Radio, I used to think of it as. Yeah, play around here. And then flesh out the thoughts and give them to the masses.
Now, when I did so much CBS radio for a week, and it was a Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday afternoon, Monday morning swing. I just felt like I was there the whole time. A wraparound series. It really was.
So when I'm doing that primarily. I just flesh out thoughts. As they come there with no filter. And one of the things that I said was. Coaches should be required.
Once during training camp. to play a game of Madden in front of their team.
Okay.
Because I want to see. what your strategies are and and what you like. But I also want to see you. Clock manage. I want to see you clock manage.
I think there's some coaches that. Scoff at the idea of Madden. Where else do they get clock management practice? Everyone's so bad at this. Yeah.
These preseason games that are ending in ties. You're already there. Play it out. You have something to play for. That Washington-Baltimore game was exciting.
It's on the play for they beat the streak. Paul, I don't know if you tape that and watch it later. I'm aware of what happened. Yes. It's it's like You're already there.
Do something. You're already there. Good song by Lone Star. I just don't think Madden is a very good game, but I do like the idea of them needing to put it on the line in front of their players. Like the boss needs to find a way to occasionally remind those.
Under him That he could do any of their jobs better than they could, more efficiently. Like they, that reminder needs to be there. I'm a big fan of every once in a while the boss showing up and just. Showing everyone what's up. I don't know if Madden's the way to do that, but I also don't know like when Michael Scott would go to a client and just kick ass.
Yeah. It's like, oh, you suck as a boss, but But you got to be the boss because you were such a good salesperson. Yeah. So why I'm saying all this is. I still think there's a lot where like LeFleur I do believe he knows a lot about football, and I do believe he understands some of this stuff that I.
at a different level but He is doing a lot of the coaching stuff, especially in the game. for the first time. Mm-hmm. And every time he screws it up.
So maybe he's got four years now. What are you talking about first time? It's his year five, isn't it? You're five, four. Yeah, but he's still doing things last year where he's like, ah, you know, I got to prepare for that better.
And there's a whole thing with when they travel in the playoffs. He just doesn't know what the fuck's going on. Yeah, I think if he tries to play those excuses this season. I think it should fall on extremely deaf ears because to Grant's point. He is new at this, relatively speaking, but you can't be this far into your head coaching career and still be like, yeah, you know, I guess I got that one wrong.
And I got, we probably should have left a day earlier. Or, uh, like, I would not, hey, Matt, I would not recommend you going that route this year, buddy. I mean that's Yeah. Keep it to yourself with that stuff. Like, I don't, if you guys mess up the travel, I don't care.
Like, I don't want to hear, I don't want to hear about it. If you should have traveled a day earlier and you think you lost because of that, keep it to yourself because I don't want to hear it. Another thing is that I always thought he might have been doing some of that, saying some of that. Not just the travel stuff specifically, but some of his like. Falling on the sword stuff.
I thought he might have been doing that to protect Roger's ego. Totally. Yeah. And no, that does not make sense. It totally made him look shitty, and I think he accepted that.
To Keep the relationship with Rogers as strong as possible. Which is absurd. Right. Right. And I think if things work out perfectly, Rogers will play a few years for the Jets and then Zach Wilson will step in, and there'll be 18 to 20 years of elite quarterback play.
I just think that's okay, sorry, tangent. But yeah, so wait, so Bart, you're saying Oh, keep going. I interrupted.
Sorry. I think there's more. There's probably more pressure on love. I I I agree with that. Oh, Grant, Grant, Shakespeare.
Love's gonna get dissected every goddamn throw he makes. Yeah. Matt looks like. floor is not. Maliflora blood sucks.
He'll get a pass again. No, no, no. We're also going to look for every reason under the sun to prove to ourselves and to say that Jordan Love is good. Like, we're going to comb over every Jordan Love play and we're going to be like, see, there it is. That's why, like, I don't know.
I think Matt LaFleur is more under the gun this year, or at least that's how I felt. We talked about this. I remember filling in for Bill with his former producer, Ben, for two weeks in April and May. We talked about this nonstop. I think LaFleur's under more pressure.
And something we didn't even mention, he brought back Joe Berry. I was going to mention no one believes is a good defensive coordinator.
So if the defense gets off to a crummy start through six games and everyone's looking around thinking, we're doing this again. We're wasting another season again on a guy that We're all but sure is not the answer for our defensive coordinator. What are we doing?
So that's another thing that Matt LaFleur has on his plate. I was going to grant. If you hadn't mentioned it, that was my next thing: it's not just about how LaFleur manages in-game. It's not going to just be about how he runs the offense. It's going to be about the success of Joe Barry's unit because if it's not good, Guess who not only brought Joe Barry back, but had like this staunch defense of like.
This is an accomplished, good defensive coordinator in the NFL. Yeah. And he I mean he stuck his neck out there by bringing him back. But also then the The defense of Joe Berry. And so, yeah, I totally agree with you, Grant.
I think the offensive coordinator stuff. Will be there for LaFleur. I think we'll see the scheme. I mean, go back and watch highlights from 2020 when Rogers won his first MVP. And you can see, oh, there's a LaFleur thing, and that's different, and I haven't seen this before.
And like. I think the offensive coordinator stuff will be fine. It's a lot of the other things that I think have been the question with LaFleur. But by and large, I think he's a very good coach. If you have confidence in LaFleur to win week one, I would suggest picking the Packers as your survivor entry in the Splash Sports pool.
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So Get your friends to sign up. Splash sports.com backslash Winkler. Good read, good read. Any other thoughts on love, LaFleur? Um I actually, I think we hit most angles there.
I don't think we missed anything. Good conversation. I agree. Breaking Monday News. was about Jonathan Taylor.
There are at least Three teams that should trade a first round pick. for the services of Jonathan Taylor. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. So, what I saw was they were talking about this maybe during the Monday night game.
But what Jonathan Taylor wants is a contract. Which is not so you have to like If you're trading for them. Are you going to give them that contract? But then. Oh, yeah.
But but then you have to You have to get him.
So you're essentially paying him. But you're paying a team for him. You are paying to pay him. You're paying twice. Which is almost always the case in these situations where it's a Star player, a well-reputable player who's like, that's what that's how this works.
And then there's the. There's the like. The Colts don't want to pay him. Money. but they want a first round pick from like they don't want they don't value him a certain way.
But if you want him, you need to value him. that way And so it's like, I have this thing I don't want. Oh, can I have it for a fair price? No, you must have it for the most price. Yep.
Yeah. That's a good breakdown. Yeah. Are there teams that should trade for him? Who's a Jonathan Taylor away from the Super Bowl?
I tried to do this on air the other night on my show, and I'm like, I'm just reaching for the fun, like, what would be the most fun destination? Like, what would make the most sense? Dolphins. Yeah, dolphins would be cool because they would have A base they would have a track team between Tyreek Hill and Waddle, and like it would be great. And Bart is drinking out of a mug that has a B for Bart, I'm assuming.
Yes, I've used this mug before and they also These were the mugs they used on Will and Grace. Mm. Is there Mountain Dew in there, or are you drinking coffee and a Mountain Dew right now? I'm drinking both. This is Pete's coffee.
Nice. Promo code Pete at checkout. I think the dolphins would be the most fun. I don't know if it makes a world of sense for the dolphins. Why not?
Well, because it's Mike McDaniel who hails from Kyle Shanahan's tree. And what do we say about Kyle Shanahan? You just plug in whatever running back, Raheem McDonald.
Well, but, but. What in what in What did Shanahan go out and trade for last season? And it completely changed his offense. I don't know that it did. I don't know that it did.
It was fun. It was great for fantasy owners. I don't know that it completely changed his offense. It changed his offense. I'll do today.
I thought that was a dumb trade. But you were wrong, right? You agree like you, I remember you thinking it was a dumb trade, Bart, but you changed your tune, right? No, they don't need them. Oh, okay.
Why do the Niners need McCaffrey? I didn't like the trade either. I would not have traded all that for Christian McCaffrey if I was San Francisco. Then I saw it happen in front of me and I said, oh, now I get why you did that. Why do the Niners think they can win a Super Bowl with Brock Purdy?
Because that's all you sometimes need. In that type of system. No, everyone's going, everyone's going established, everyone's going quarterback that we've drafted and developed. Or We have a good team, and we're going to get an elite quarterback towards the end of his career. Which is a dumb way of team building.
But yes, but it's worked recently for not to call Stafford elite, but it's worked recently for the Rams, Buccaneers. Broncos. It shouldn't have worked. It shouldn't have worked for the Rams. We should not use the Rams as evidence for that as a good thing.
But those are the two ways the teams win Super Bowl, and now the Niners are like, nah, we can just throw any fucking guy, quarterback, and win. I love the plight of Kyle Shanahan and the Niners. There's something, there's a Greek tragedy to it, and that Kyle Shanahan probably sits at home at night and thinks, if I could just get the quarterback. That my fellow coaches have, then I would win titles, but he can't because. The fact that he doesn't have a great quarterback is why his roster is so good.
So he sits at night and thinks, I have the roster, I have the offense, I need the quarterback. But if you have the quarterback, then you don't have the roster. It's like trying to keep two dogs in a bathtub at the same time. And this is the plight, this is the tragedy of Kyle Shanahan. And I love it that he's stuck.
and that he can't, he can't get out of it. I enjoy it a lot, mostly because I don't like the Niners. They've bounced our Packers from the playoffs a good number of times. Very good. Analogy Thank you.
See how much analogies held. Yeah. Oh, analogies are the best. Aunt versus aunt as walking around your house. It it helps to visualize things.
I've got a breaking weather update. Lindsey Slater Of channel 12 said big heat coming. Excessive warning in effect for Wednesday. There's a heat dome covering a good portion of the greater United States right now. It's a term that I had never seen until the other day.
Mark, who is coming to the tailgate. Wait, the mark from all the emails throughout the years? No, this is a real mark. Any chance for a lake freeze during the Brewer game? He responded to Lindsay.
And Lindsay responded.
Southeast wind 5 to 15.
So, not much. I'm bringing, I think I'm going to bring a fan. I think I'm going to bring one of those clip-on fans. Can you bring those into the game? Is there a way I can plug a fan?
Into Like can I can you do you uh do you have a Can I plug like a A power cord into my car somehow. You were gonna We are going to get the pleasure, all the tailgate attendes, are going to get the pleasure of watching. A man sweats more than any man in the history of the world has ever sweated tomorrow. Me? Yes.
I know. You hate hot weather more than anyone I've ever met.
So, this is the Greek tragedy. Is that I have this tailgate and it's the hottest day of the year. The hottest day of the year. I wonder if people will bail. I wonder if people will say, ah, fuck it.
I'm not going to go to this. Oh, I would never. In fact, the vacation day I'm taking tomorrow is going to allow me to also get drunk tonight.
So I'm Ubering into Madison and I'm going to get into some trouble. And then I'm going to wake up at 10 tomorrow and make my way down 94 and Do it all over again. I'm gonna bring a big old cooler. I'm gonna I I need to bring some cash for for you and and Whole M and the F because you guys are doing too much. I mean, maybe you're not.
This is your tailgate after all. you are seasonally unemployed at the moment, so maybe I don't know, but. No, I've I've spent money on this. Yeah. Yeah, you should be reimbursed.
So, I'm going to bring some cash, bring some beers. I'll bring Captain for you, Bart. That'll be it. No, I'm not doing any hard liquor. You shouldn't.
Neither should I. Let me just be clear, Grand, counter to Grand, if I was going and then I saw the weather was going to do this, I would bail. Look, I'm on the phone now. Oh, come on, Paul. All right, I'm just a little heat.
I do think Bart and I would probably be. Top contenders against each other for this. I think if people are going to, I think if you're on the cusp of bailing. On the come? Come to the tailgate.
and bail on the game. Isn't Corbin Burns pitching Wednesday? Yeah, go watch him at Kelly's or some shit. Tomorrow. Go spend money in Milwaukee, go support Milwaukee.
Oh, look at you, Bart. Yeah. Good for you though.
So if you're thinking of bailing Come to the tailgate. I'll go see our friends at Stenny's instead, but Kelly's bleacher sounds nice. Stanny's Coaches Third base? Fourth phase.
Okay, JP. Mm-hmm. Yeah, go to fourth base. Go to fourth base. Say say hi to CJ.
I'm gonna get the shaved steak sandwich. That's what I like. Yeah. I mean, they'll make whatever. I mean, that's the cool thing about it is you can kind of just.
Specifically, point to things in the hot case and ask for, and they'll make it. CJ will make it for you. Hard case. All right. What were you saying?
That was a Nelly reference. We all got it moved on though. Thank you. I don't know if Grant Tailgate attended and got it because he's. A young man.
Grant, you don't remember the song Hot Shit? No, Nellie, I remember just a dream. And that's about it off the dome at the moment. Just a dream. That's your Nelly reference, huh?
What about no, he probably likes, well, it's all in my head. I think is that the one with Florida, Georgia line? Tim McGraw. Yeah. Tim McGraw.
Oh, I like Tim McGraw. Yeah. I'd listen to some TMG at the tailgate tomorrow. I'm just disturbed that your Nelly references are not like Oh, you're bent out of shape because I referenced the incorrect Nelly song. Oh, I'm going to be this is going to ruin my day.
It's not. Tim McGraw's dad was a two-time world champion. Tog McGraw, people forget. You know? Are there any other Jonathan Taylor teams that you throw out, Grant, on your show?
I'm looking through a lot of people. They were throwing out the Bears. Yeah, I mentioned the bears. Um What's their, I mean, other than Khalil Herbert, who did they? They let Montgomery go, but they added Dante Foreman, right?
They've got this Johnson kid. Oh yeah. W how where was he picked mid to late? I don't know. Herbert seems to be the guy, right?
Their quarterback is a running back, so you don't really want to take snaps and carries away from him. Disagree. I kid. I kid. I kid.
I said Pittsburgh would be kind of cool. What about Najee Harris? They just drafted him in the first round. He gives a shit. I don't know.
He's stinky, but he was drafted in the first round. They have a bunch of UW-Madison guys there. Nick Herbig looks great. Keanu Benton, TJ Watt, would be kind of cool. Oh, I gotta buy Madden yet and do my Badger team.
I always buy Madden and then make a team All Badgers. Really? Yeah, but then I have to fill it in with like Because there's like 40 badgers that were in camp or 35. I could should I be a should I be a Kurt Bankard? When you realize, never be a curtain maker.
You should stream. Video. I think people would watch you stream video games. I just don't know if Matt. I won't watch you.
Well, I'll probably watch whatever dumb shit you put out, but. I don't like Madden. I don't think it's a good game. I want to stream NFL 95 on Sega. Whoa, wow.
I saw this Kurt Benkert video last night where he's like Look at this play I found a do in the red zone. It works every time. This I should be in jail You're doing the thing you shouldn't do if you don't like someone's Twitter content, and that's. amplifying it every other Phrase you said. All right.
Um. Any other thoughts on Jonathan Taylor or next? There's not a it's gonna be a weird team that gets him. I don't know. I wish there was like an obvious, oh, New England, what about New England?
But But the thing is, Andre Stevenson or best player, they don't have any great Great skill position players, I think, as we talked about last week. Or maybe I talked about this with you on my show, Bart, where it's like they have all those guys who are like. If those are your fantasy football players, you're kind of up a creek. Like they just, there's not a lot of special there, but the best guy they have is already a running back.
So, are they getting that much better if they acquire Jonathan Tale? Probably not. Any anywho, we can move on, Paul. Brewer's question. They were off on Monday.
By the time people hear this, they will, of course, play Tuesday night. Things could change with the rooster between now and then. Ah, that's roster. I made the roster! Did you get the reference?
No, I thought you meant when we were like Uh, what were we saying? He should be off the roster. That one needs to be on the playlist. You know what else should be on the playlist is when Bart and Horvat did, Jordan love, you'll be the worst quarterback ever. People forget how much their tune has changed over the years.
That's right. We need a little g-force. G force. I think that's on Spotify. Let me check.
Mm-hmm. Okay.
So Brewer's question for you about the about the roster. It hasn't come up to this point in our conversation, so I think it should. As Kestanhira continues to absolutely rake. Player of the week. And Nashville sounds um First ballot Hall of Famer.
There's more and more, and as we get closer to September, there's more and more things that I'm seeing of like. Fans wondering, like, seriously, what is the deal? Like, where is he not coming? Why is he not coming up? Um, so September when the rosters uh how do roster expansions work now?
Is it two do you only get two more spots? I know back in the day it was like up to like forty, right? But now you get twenty eight in the month of September.
So Castanhera will be Called up. This season Eventually, Finally. By the Milwaukee Brewers. Or actually, let me take that back. Not Willby.
G. M. Winkler, G. M. Bills.
Casinohera should. Owner. Please. Owner should be called up. In your opinion, he should be called up.
He's done enough. You got to find out if he can, you got to give him one more chance a crack at this. Mm-hmm, or they should call up Kashmira this season. Maybe it's in September when they can do the two extra spots, but this season. I don't see them using him.
And if you're not going to consistently for at least like the first week or so, you probably don't do it, right? I mean They just got rowdy back. You're not going to play him in the field, so you're not going to DH him.
So you're going to bring it in for pinch hit spots and Council will probably find a different reason to go with someone else. Maybe because he prefers playing good players. I mean, Council's an ass, but maybe that's one of the reasons he would find. I just.
Well, you're not in the KH train? Why would you be? He can't play himself out of triple A. I don't know. Well, he's probably done everything a player possibly could in AAA to get called up.
The problem is that we've. Seen this a couple times, a few times. Plenty of players have been great at the AAA level. And it happens at every level where there's players that are killer in AA and they can't make the step, or players that are killer in AAA and they can't make the step. If you want to call up Kesson Hero, cool.
I think it's worth a shot. I think the way that Mark Canna and Carlos Santana have been pretty nice additions and Roddy Tales is back, I think there's less of a need for him now than there was a need for Kessen a month ago.
So I think the dying need is passed. But if you make the argument, Grant, I want to call up Kessen Hero.
Okay.
That's fine, but don't preach to me that he's been a killer in AAA and that's why we need to bring him up. We've seen this a dozen times now, you know. And by the way, not that I'm going to advocate for Jesse Winker getting a ton of at-backs, but he's on his way back as well.
So, I mean, it's just another. person in the way. Potentially, where you're saying, oh, this guy or that guy.
Something in the way. Hmm.
I don't know that song. Keep going. Is that Our Lady Peace? Um Bart, they should call up Castanahiro this season or give him another, give him one more chance.
Well, I think so. I I mean I look what he's doing at Triple A. Just call him off. He's good. They should have called him up a month ago.
A month ago, when everyone was hurt and they were playing three or four replacement level guys every day, you gotta look at the theory that he doesn't want to come up. What if they're like Keston? We're going to bring you up. For in a inhale he's he'll prague I ain't going up for a month and a or a week and a half Gotta live at a hotel. Just let Toro go up this time and don't play him.
Yeah. He's like, I got a lady down here. I got You know, I I got a great apartment. Nashville's great this time of year. I I don't wanna go Milwaukee.
Get to go watch The Reese Witherspoon and Nicole Kidman led Nashville FC anytime he wants. Giannis. Giannis, also, I mentioned him third among this trio of celebrities. And it's Nashville SC. Oh really?
They call it soccer and fo Are they lying to a source? That feels controversial. Castanhera is quote not open. to leaving Nashville. He is quote, not open.
To moving out of tennis. What happened to that guy? That's all it takes to get a national radio show. Mm-hmm. Well Open.
He had, remember that guy, what was his name? Jared? Was that Jordan Schultz? No. No, it was Jared Stillman.
Yeah. He had the quickest uh what are these Air quotes. He is quote open. This is like the quickest ever. I like that his realtor was a source and it was just some some random dude.
Yeah. I had a source. call the Thrill Michaels show last week. Didn't want to go on the air. Nothing pisses me off more, by the way, than when people call during commercial breaks.
I don't want to go on. I just wanted to, man, this is my break. I'm sitting here for three minutes. Let me itch my nuts and scroll my phone for three minutes before I have to go back on the radio.
Okay.
They'll be like, no, I don't have time to go on air. I just wanted to tell you. This guy lives up in Tomahawk. And Mason Crosby apparently has a cabin up there, and he spends his days. Up north, snowmobiling in the winter, of course, but in the summer, getting in his practice kicks at the local high school.
And this caller swears that Mason Crosby is waiting idly by for the phone call, and he's staying close by, waiting for the phone call. I don't know if there's any truth to it. I tried to get off the phone as quickly as possible because I was on brain. It was a five-minute commercial break. A five-minute commercial break, Bart, that's everything.
You can do anything and everything during a five-minute commercial break. Wow.
Then this guy wanted to call and tell me about Tomahawk, but I don't know. A source of money. I had someone tell me. And it it they may be listening to the show right now and they know who they are, but I knew that Brad Leonard was going to Illinois two weeks before he went. Brad Leonard?
Brad Leonard is a guy I went to high school with.
Okay.
Jim Leonard. Oh, Jim Leonard. I thought I was like, oh, yeah, that's before my time, obviously. Brad Leonard. is the guy I went to high school with.
Jesus Christ. Jim Leonard. I think I know who your source was on this. Jim, I don't think y you do. I'm just kidding.
Oh. Jim Leonard went to Illinois. I knew he was going there. And he could have broken that news and he didn't. What am I going to say?
You can only read it. Let me write your script for you. Jim Leonard is quote open. Open. to joining the Illinois program.
How great is it that Brett Belema hired him, by the way? Because Brett Belema made up an analyst job. And sold Jim Leonard on taking this analyst job. Jim Leonard could work an hour a week. Brett Belema does not give a shit.
Brett Bielema just did this, and he's thrilled, and he should be because it's funny that he got to be the reason that there was a headline out there that a Big Ten West rival had hired Jim Leonard. He did all of this just to do that. And that is let. I am so back in it. Kind of like when the game hired Chuck just for the headline.
Yeah, yep and then buried them Yeah.
So I have two more Brewers should call up because these you know, we're getting close to that time of year. I'm going to ask them in tandem. And this, this is a I'm sure I saw this. At least partially through either Brett and Tosa tweeting about it or responding to tweets.
So I'm going to ask them in conjunction. The Brewers this year should call up Tyler Black. The Brewers this year should call up Jackson Shurio. Mm-hmm, or mm-mm, on those two. This season Uh Grant, you might know more than me.
I I say no, I I I'm not like Following Tyler Blacks at bats. With like obsession like I feel like I'm the only one not Churio, you can wait on Churio. You can Should you? I mean, this if AA? Yep.
So, you don't think Keston can hit big league pitching after smashing double-A? And you think this 19-year-old kid is going to hit bombs off Spencer Strider? Yeah, Paul. What are you saying? I don't know.
Um I think like I th uh Well, so I'm actually surprised by your answer, Bart, because I would have thought in this era of like you have Burns, you have Woodruff, you have Peralta, you have Devin Williams, you have this pitching staff. that you would do anything you could to inject more pop into your batting order. I am always the patient one. I think a few weeks ago, Bart, you asked me, like, dude, how long do you think you're going to live? I would just say I'm you did, remember this whole thing where you said you're always maximizing your You asked that question.
It was awkward. Um I would take the patient approach. I'd be very worried that I would make it. You all hit 85. If I make it past 45.
So there's a there's a okay, you got to get past 45 to get to 85. Um I would take the pace. I mean a little touch and go here.
So I'm going to say as I zoom past your Almost. forty you're almost forty, so you're almost at your your midlife crisis. I'm going to say to both because I would take the patient approach and be worried that I would mess something up. You ca you can't Mess these up. Um, by the way, they also might get Garrett Mitchell back, so like that's a name we didn't mention in this string of possible 2023.
late season editions from injury.
So, I'm going to say, as much as I would be very, very curious and glued to my TV if they did get called up. Not that I'm not watching regardless, but like it would be like absolute must see TV. I'm going to say, mm-mm, take the patient approach. But that's typically how I view these things is to take the patient approach. Grant, your thoughts?
I am in 2010. 2016-2017, Jason Kidd Radio Joe Bucks post-game show mode. With this Brewers team, in that I just want them to get in. And anything that happens after that is icing on the cake. And I know that kind of sounds like a loser mentality, but if they can get in and have an awesome, rough and rowdy first or second round series that they lose.
But Joey Weimer and Bryce Trang and Sal Free all get this experience, and Christian Yelich feels like he's kind of. Back into the swing of normal things. Then we can hit the ground running next year in the year after when hopefully a lot of these young guys are starting to. Come in the time. But, but that's also the time that Burns leaves and Woodruff leaves and like.
You're preaching to the choir on that. You're preaching to the bites of the Apple choir. I understand that. I do. Um But I don't think calling up Jackson Churio or Tyler Black gets them any close to a title this year.
I just think then you're adding in another young player's mouth that you need to feed with the bats, and you need things to go well for that player. And if not, you're actually doing more harm than good.
So I would just stay focused on the young guys they have up here. And if Kara Mitchell can come back, great. Get them meaningful baseball reps in September and hopefully October.
So they have a feeling for what that's like. They have a feeling for fighting off a division team and locking down a playoff spot. And then they have that experience going into next year and the year after. I don't think bringing in more young guys helps. By the way, since we last, was it a week ago or two weeks ago where we talked about The lefty, righty split stats for Joey Weimer.
I don't know if you've noticed how pronounced. It is now where council does not use Weimer. Against righty pitching anymore. Like he like fifth inning, what game was it where Freelich came in for Weimer in the fifth when? Whatever team it was changed pitchers from a lefty to a righty.
I mean, I think we're already finding out. What? Weimer is and isn't, which is. A great Great hitter against lefties, and someone you cannot play against righties. Bart, any other thoughts?
So I don't think you've answered yet, Bart. Are you calling these guys up? No. No. To use an analogy.
Oh, uh y you're good at these. You have brought home Some really delicious Take and baked pizza. that you know is going to be She is. People are gonna be like Is this delivery? Yeah.
It's fucking Dijorno. That's right, I thought you were going. You don't take the pizza out when it's Not fully cooked. Then then it then it You're like, wow, it was gonna be great. Shoulda let it cook a little more.
Let these guys cook. By not Letting them cook. We all agree.
So we all went with mm-mm, don't call them up. But I do think it's interesting. What team was it that was it? Oh, the Angels just called up their 2023 draft pick, who they drafted a month and a half ago. Yeah, anything they do is fucking stupid.
Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, don't take your cues from the Angels. Yes. The Reds just called up yet another young player, Marte. To add to their collection of guys who I think like historically would have been left in the minors longer, either because of service time, BS, like you know, the Chris Bryan situation back in.
Whatever, 2013 or whatever, with the Cubs when he was a rookie and they stalled it until April 15th or whatever. Teams are doing this more. They're just saying. All right, bring them up. Let's see what happens.
Which I think is. Interesting. I think that's a good thing for baseball. But I would take the conservative approach with my team. And I think, Bart, it's actually, I like what you said, too, about.
Or was that Grant, sorry, that said about like too many other young mallets to feed. That was me. If they had a veteran late into the Dijorno bit. Yeah. Sorry, how could I have mistaken?
Like the guy who went for the Dijorno's analogy versus the fucking Dijorno baseball analysis. If they didn't have all the other. Youths. on the roster. I think you could.
You know, somewhere in America there was like a Mm-hmm. You're you're kidding me. This isn't delivery? Like it was like. 'Cause, you know, somewhere it happened.
And he's like, I'm taking. Telling you, I'll show you the box. This is a DiGiorno pizza. You're you're you're fucking with me man. You had to have delivered this It's not delivery.
It's a journal. It's in the same family as the, that's not a Buick. And then the person. That's what I told him. I also enjoy the Buick commercials.
I will say that every time. I don't splurge for the Dijornos. I get the Jacks. And no one has ever, ever accused me of ordering delivery when I've served them at Jacks. They're well aware of what kind of pizza they're eating.
Love Jax. I do as well. I keep a jar of banana peppers in my fridge, sprinkle some of those on there, take it up. A notch. Not an ear.
Jardonier, yep. Italian. That's my Italian recipe. Italian frozen pizza. Mm-hmm.
So, Grant, I'm guessing we're getting close to the end of your time allotment. I do have to go in a couple minutes. I have.
So, I have one more question I'm gonna ask the two of you. Mostly, I'm gonna ask this to Bart. But then, Grant, when you leave. I'm going to have Spartan some wrestling questions, some programs. I'm going to save those for later in the week.
Oh, you are. Probably.
Okay.
I don't know what Friday's show is going to make note yet, so.
Okay.
That is disappointing. But okay. We'll see. We'll see. The last question.
The last one off to two of you, which is non-sports. Bart, Monday night, other breaking news. Nicolas Cage is back as Ghostwriter in Avengers' Secret Wars? Is this the big thing? Come on to your boy.
Is that happening? You didn't see I'm breaking Marvel news to you? What Nick Cage. Ghost Rider Avengers Secret Wars.
So what they're I think what they're doing Is yes, Nicolas Cage making MCU debut joining the Avengers as Ghost Rider. Yes. So I've done a lot of the MCU rewatch. I'm up to the post-end game stuff.
Now I'm on What If and then WandaVision. But then when I get to Spider-Man I'm going to watch all the Sony Spider-Mans, the Garfield and the Tony Maguire. Wow.
And then when I get to. Like when I finish Then I'm going to have to go watch all the old, like. Because I think Deadpool 3 and I haven't seen the first Deadpools really Oh wow. But I think Deadpool 3 is going to be like them mm taking that timeline of the X-Men and Ghost Rider and all that other shit. and bringing it in and like killing the timeline.
See It's pretty extensive.
Sounds like it. It's the greatest. I love it. I can't wait. But yes, it is happening.
Well good. I I gotta go watch Ghost Rider then. Have you seen the old like the old ones? No. No, I gotta watch a lot of these movies I skipped on purpose.
National Treasure is Nicholas Cage's alma mater, Magnum Opus. I am one of the greatest.
Some would say family man. Which is kind of just like a ripoff of Mr. Destiny. What was the one movie I just What was the movie? Which Cage is married to T.A.
Leone, and then they like. What if I would have done this? Kind of movie. Did you guys see? I gotta make sure I'm gonna tell you the right title.
That recent movie that he did, The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. Oh, so, so, so good. You saw it, Grant? No. Oh, it's wonderful.
I have a lot of movies. I really like Nick Cage movies. No, no, this one, he is like, he's Nick Cage as Nick Cage. I just think of Abed doing him in community, and that kind of ruins Nick Cage for me. It's a wonderful movie.
With Pedro Pascal. I do like Pedro. He is daddy. What about Renfeld? Was that good?
I didn't see it. Like, kind of a funny movie. Renfield. I did not see it. I know my buddy, not my buddy, I wish.
Ben Schwartz, the guy I really like. Ben Schwartz is in there. That's why I would have seen it. Good good buddy Ben Schwartz. No, but Yeah.
I think we I think we'd be good good buddies when in reality we are not. Uh that's all I got except for wrestling questions. Which I don't want to minimize because I have an elite. Pun unintentionally but now intended. Question for Bart on wrestling.
I think it's going to be a great question.
Well, I'll let you guys loose. I'm going to go to work. Yeah, I'll see everyone at the tailgate. I can't wait. I know this will air on the.
Yeah. But I can't hold back my excitement. I'll break down the fourth wall or whatever it is and say I'm very excited for the tailgate.
So. Yes. I'll talk to you gentlemen next week. Bye, Grand. See you soon, pal.
See ya. Bye. Yeah.
