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Packers Bye Week Blues, Week 6 NFL Picks with Ryan Horvat

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October 13, 2023 6:00 am

Packers Bye Week Blues, Week 6 NFL Picks with Ryan Horvat

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October 13, 2023 6:00 am

Bart Winkler and Ryan Horvot discuss various NFL topics, including the Packers, Jordan Love, and Matt LaFleur, while also touching on MLB playoffs and the Baltimore Ravens' struggles.

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Good. God bodied everybody. My name is Bart Winkler. This is the Bart Winkler Show. I I'm going to talk to Ryan Horvont.

We're going to go through some picks. Before we do that, We will talk about Jordan Love. And Matt LaFleur. And Brian Gudekinst. And Joe Berry.

The Mount Rushmore of mid. is what we will talk about. Coming up. We did Packers Mount Rushmore this summer. This is Packers Mount Trashmore.

Mount Trashmore. Those of you in the fondue. You remember Mount Trashmore very fondly. Right in front of the old little Caesars that I threw a rock through once. By rock, I mean brick.

That has got to catch up to me at some point. Um. I keep talking about it though. Nobody comes and arrests me. Yeah.

Baseball, baseball, baseball, baseball, baseball. I do not like the playoffs.

So here's what happened, okay? The Brewers lost. To the diamondbags. And it happened so quick, 27 hours. And I didn't know that it phased me.

And the next day, I said something to the extent of. Never have I felt so little. Reaction towards a playoff exit. Because I'm over it. I'm not even, I'm not affected by this in any way.

Little did I know. That I had Feelings buried deeply. I was very mad about the Brewers' playoff exit. I was. I didn't know it yet.

They're buried so deep, deeper than a secret. is where I buried these things. And they didn't come out. Until I started to come out a little bit Monday night. Monday night, I did say I'm kind of more mad the Diamondbacks won than I am that they uh The Packers lost.

And the Diamondbacks won. They had that four-home run inning on Wednesday. These top seeds are getting bounced. And I went all fucking balls to the guts about goddamn Baseball playoffs. And I get that you might think I'm crazy.

You might think I'm crazy. All I want is you. I just Don't think that it's a good format. I don't need like I'm fine with A team like the Diamondbacks having a run. That's fine.

I'm fine with a team like the Philly's having a run. Looking like the Rangers having a run. Upsets are going to happen. You know? But there's a week off in between games in a sport where.

Routine is part of it. Part of baseball is that you have to play every day. And you give these teams a week off? That's longer than the all-star break. These teams look forward to the All-Star break for two months.

Because they just need some downtime. Uh The week between the playoffs and the regular season is bad. It hurts you. It does not help. And really, you get another team that comes in with momentum.

Now, obviously, if you ask any team, Where would you rather start? Would you rather start in the divisional round or would you rather start in the wildcard round? They'll say, well, shit, I don't. The divisional round. But then they give them a week off, and it kind of neuters that advantage, I do think.

And it's not just the time, it's the fact that whoever then you have to face. Like Philadelphia coming into the Braves series. Already playoff storylines are being moments are happening. The Rangers. Moments are happening with these teams that are experiencing the joy, and then they come in like a little bit.

you know on top So, I do think the system is set up to give the advantage to the team that wins the wild card.

Now, of course, I Tweeted about this when I was. Uh up late. And so I was saying things like the diamondbacks are terrible and blah, blah, blah. Um all that stuff. I have just been blocking so many people.

That doesn't make me feel good. I just I actually hate blocking people. I hate doing it. Because it feels like a cop out. But also I don't need to talk about baseball and then have someone tell me to wash my hands like Fuck you.

So, anyway, I don't like how baseball is set up. But It is dumb. And I'm not rooting for, I'm not rooting for, I don't want to see the Dodgers and the Astros every year. I want the play, I want the regular season to mean a little more. It doesn't matter how you play in April, May, June, July, August.

Not even September. Diamondbacks had a bad September. But along the way they won 84 games and lost 78. They did enough to get in. And they got hot.

Six months after the season started.

So they're in the NLCS. Isn't that dumb? Is that. It's not that I hate the playoff structure. It's that it devalues the regular season, guys.

That's what I'm saying. Anyway. I'm getting pretty close to uh Leaving Twitter. And not because of Elon. I needed to promote stuff.

That's what I tell myself, but And I've connected with a lot of people, a lot of you guys. Maybe I'll just tweet out my phone number, and that'll be my last. If you don't already have it, that'll be my last. I just can't do this anymore. I'm getting tired.

of Twitter. Of social media. Just the constant barrage of I should talk to a psychiatrist about this. Or I should just take a gummy. That's what I should have done.

Should have taken a gummy. Uh got a voicemail from Matt in the Falls. Carls plays voicemail. See, that was that this is me like I'm just This is what kind of podcast is this? I'm just like literally telling my feelings.

And then I'm going to publish it. I don't know. Is that good? I guess. All right, here is Matt in the falls.

Carl's plays voicemail. Carlovet.com backslash Bart. Get your golf simulator. Oh, no, that's fine, Bart. I'll go golf this weekend.

No, you won't. Not with the rain coming. You could go right down to your basement. and hit a few balls. Carl of ET.com backslash Bart.

Hey, Bart, it's me. Um Been a while. Uh man, the Falls Fan Lee is on COVID round three, just coming out of it. Um, still got a stuffy nose, as you can hear. Um, I think people are really overreacting about my man Jay Love.

Um, not overreacting about LaFleur, because LaFleur stinks like big, stinky, floppy poo-poo. But, um, I mean, quarterbacks suck the first, you know, year, two years, whatever. A lot of them do. And, you know, not everybody is Patrick Mahomes, where they sit on the bench for a year and then step right in and they're awesome. You know, Patrick Mahomes is arguably the most talented or best, however you want to say it, best quarterback ever.

Like, he needs some experience. You can't just say, oh, well, he's had three years of practice against, you know, some. NFL players, like, practice is not a game. And playing against other teams, other players, other schemes, all that stuff, is not practicing against your own guys that you get familiar with and all that stuff. Like he needs more than five games.

He doesn't stink. He is playing stinkily, but he doesn't stink. You can see that he has some ability to play quarterback. I mean, there are guys that you you see them play a few games and you're like, Oh my god, what is this guy doing? Like he was good in college, I don't even believe that.

But you can see that Jordan Love can play quarterback. He just needs more experience. Um, so, you know, yeah, Hall of Fame, probably not going to have it. We're probably not going to continue the streak. But to be getting wildly upset and saying he's terrible and this Is who he is is I think that's a wild overreaction.

And I think even one year. Um, if he has a if he has a bad year, I don't think we can Just say that's that's the end of it. I don't we obviously can't pay him a ton of money, but Um, I think you gotta give him more than seventeen games. I mean Peyton Manning was I like it. his first year and he's Peyton Manning now so Just just pump the brakes, everybody, please.

All right. That is Matt in the Falls. We will dive more into those comments really and the Thoughts behind them with Ryan Horbach coming up momentarily? This is Craig, our new buddy Craig. Our old buddy that's a new contributor.

Hey, Bart. Craig Thompson. This week of all the Packer podcasts that I've listened to, I Yes, I've been wrong. I'm supposed to give Joe Barry a break. And I completely understand because when you're the defensive coordinator, who goes for who allows 14 plays at 62 yards for eight minutes and twenty eight seconds for a touchdown and then allows eight plays for forty one yards but ended up in a misfuel goal.

And then 10 plays for 75 yards and a touchdown, and then 8 plays for 73 yards and another fist field goal, which should have put the game at 20 to 13 rather than. 1713. I guess I was wrong. He's awesome. His own 16 passes really made him awesome.

made them great. That being said, the other thing I want to bring is the last three coordinators that we've had, Capers, Cutton, and Barry. At one point I've all been in the booth. Pettin and Berry started on the sidelines. They were not great, but their defense seemed to have a little bit more.

Energy, a little bit more of an attitude. And when they went to the booth, it's gone. Dom Capers was always in the booth with his reading glasses on, licking the window. But he had Kevin Green. And Kevin Greene was on the ground getting those guys hype, giving and giving them a little bit of an attitude.

Now if you look and I'm not saying these are apples to apples comparisons but if you look at these defenses between our Super Bowl defense of 2009 I think eight, seven, something like that in today. You can kind of see there's a little bit of similarities. Back then there's DJ Raji. We have Candy Clark. There was Yeah, yeah.

Matthews, we have Smith and Gary. I just think that they need to have some sort of attitude. It gets some kind of, they just don't, they seem flat, they don't seem excited. I honestly believe I'm by no means my uh JV referee. Cooper.

Uh T V referee. Yeah. Rough or a I guess a former player athletic college athletic player who always brings it up that doesn't want to talk about it, but My guess is that maybe we should simplify that defense and let them let these guys play with some athletic ability rather than worrying about them taking six and a half steps at an eighteen and a half degree angle to watch the center to make sure if he's gonna pull or not. But then if he pulls and you have to go twenty seven degrees and fifteen steps to the left way and then Just let you guys play. That's all I have.

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Well. I'd uh start With you About, like, the baseball playoff format, but I don't think you give a fuck.

So, no, please do not talk about that. Why? Yeah. I mean, my team sucks. Your team's not around anymore, so why are we going to talk about it?

I don't care about the format. You were cheering for the Dodgers. I found that very weird. I don't cheer for the Dodgers.

Well, I was. I was in this particular series. The Brewers' streak thing: every time they lose, the team goes to the World Series every time. It's so awful.

Well, wouldn't you rather say you lost to the team that won a title? When is that ever come up in conversation? I just can't cheer for the Dodgers.

So I would cheer for the Brewers. I guess I honestly don't care who wins the World Series. I don't want to talk about it. I'll talk anything. I just don't want it to be Arizona, but.

I don't know. Maybe it wouldn't affect my life as much as I'm Tweeting that it would. NFL, obviously, my main thoughts after the Packers were. Look, I am out on the floor. It's the same thing.

I brought this up with Ty Windish on the Eurostep. Um podcast. I don't Like Coach Bud? The same things that pissed me off about Bud in year one pissed me off about Bud in year five. He didn't change the things that were bad.

And that's kind of where I'm at on Matt LaFleur. I understand that he's like a good football smart guy. His game management's terrible. The other thing is. A big part of this year is trying to figure out what Jordan Love is.

Yeah, and I don't think you can find out what Jordan Love is if you don't let him.

Somebody was telling me that. LaFleur must think Jordan love stinks. Because the game plan, they're like kind of holding them back or whatever.

Well, if you think he stinks, then you know the answer. They don't play them. How they hold Clifford and win one game. Like, if Jordan loves, if you know that Jordan Love is not the guy, if that's what LaFleur and Goody think. If they think that, then don't play them.

The Moose Games.

So I don't know. I just think it's like it's week five and people are trying to tell me. Bart, this is who Jordan Love is. Can we say that we know who Jordan Love is already? I don't think so.

No. And I don't want everybody to come on, come at me, come on me. I don't want that either. I don't want everybody to come at me on Twitter. But like, this is what I was always saying about Jordan Love, though.

Like, um.

So first off, Yeah, LaFleur has been shit the last couple weeks. I still I'm not out on LaFleur. But I mean Yeah, dude, like. Everybody blamed Aaron Rodgers for the offense looking like dump and not being creative. Maybe, like, that's why Aaron Rodgers was like, fuck these guys.

I want to go to New York. And maybe that's why he was always crabby. I mean, he's a weirdo, don't get me wrong. Like, the JFK shit, I don't even want to talk about. Like, I can't believe I woke up.

from a nap and saw that and I was like. I don't know that I could defend this one. I think I'm just going to have to let this one go. Oh, RFK? Dude, what a weirdo.

But so that that's that.

So I tweeted something about like. He's the only guy bringing this up in 2023. And then it was like, I put out the bark signal. I just want to be like I just I just wanna be like, hey Aaron, like Travis has games to play, but He's got things to do this year.

Okay. Can I just say about myself? Like, if you have. a gripe with me either Get me out of your life or get over it. I'm not having the same fights I'm having with people three years ago.

Is this about the COVID thing? Yeah, I'm getting real annoyed. I uh Anyway, really quick, back to football though.

So, like, this is why. I didn't really understand the Jordan love pick for Green Bay because he was going to have to sit for a couple of years, and that sounds great in 1993, but it's just really not the league anymore, and the only way to get better. Is the play right away? but I'm not all the way out on the floor. I'm just not a big goop guy like everybody else.

I don't understand why he gets a free pass because it's like we look at this defense. And it's easy to blame Joe Berry. And don't get me wrong, Joe Berry sucks. Joe Berry should not be the defensive coordinator of any team. Let alone the Green Bay Packers.

I didn't hire the guy though. But you can't just blame them every week. The Raiders were gifted short fields, really good field position off some bad turnovers. But yeah, like LaFleur's been shit. I worry that Gooch shit.

Even if you're not a Rodgers guy, I completely get that. But Devontae Adams is still a top-five wide receiver in the NFL. You should have just. Like, made him feel loved a couple years ago when he wanted to feel loved before the year where everybody was going to need to get paid. You know what I mean?

Like, Tyreek Hill and all the and AJ Brown and all the top wide receivers were going to get money. He should have just paid Devontae. Yeah, instead we paid, instead, we played Clay Neebaktiari. That's what I mean, dude. And that's weird because Green Bay usually lets the offensive lineman walk.

I guess Bakhtiari was still somewhat young when he got the deal, though, but. Yeah, I would have paid Devontae because that's a guy that like is everything that you love about um You know, like being a fan because We talked about this last week. You know, he worked on his body. He got bigger every year. He got stronger every year.

He had a case of the drops the first couple years. He had to deal with shitbags like you calling for his head, asking for him to lose his job. He just kept working, working, working. He's a family man. I like that about him.

And, you know, I know he wanted to go home, but I wish we would have just taken care of him. I Devontae hurts me. It hurts me to see him play for that shit organization more than it does like Rogers is gone.

Now it was time for Rogers to go, I guess. But yeah, that was why I didn't like it. I just wanted to see what Jordan Love can do right away. Instead, he had to wait a couple of years. And now, right, he's not even being set up for success because.

Aaron Jones has been hurt. And the one thing, though, about LaFleur, I don't like how he used that as an excuse again. It's always all Christian Watson went down, and we had, you know, this was all drawn up for him, Aaron Jones, this and that. That's his issue, dude. Like the scripted stuff, like you said, he's a smart football guy, but the in-game adjustments are shit.

And it's like. You still had extra time to prepare. You should have had that in your back pocket. Aaron Jones hasn't been healthy since week fucking one. And even when he is healthy, like, don't give me that, man.

because you don't know how to use them. He gets five touches, and they all come when we're already down three scores.

So, yeah, like he's right now. If I'm grading everybody, I still give Jordan Love an incomplete right now, probably like a B minus, C, you know. And I know that sounds tough, but the interceptions against the Raiders were really bad. And I have to really mark them tough against that one because it's the Raiders and their shit. Like I told Steve, Steve was like trying to defend the Packers.

He's like Joey Rah-Rah right now, Jordan Love, you know. And I'm like, let's just pump the brakes a little bit. Just because the Raiders may not have three interceptions the rest of the season. Like, I love Max Crosby, but if I walked on the street right now and asked everybody to name the other 10 Raiders on the defensive side of the ball, Like, people would probably say Chandler Jones, he's fucking mentally insane right now. DMing other players, telling him that he's gonna kill him and stuff.

So. Uh that's why I gotta I didn't like what I saw from LaFleur. How many Raider defenders can I name? I just watched this game. How many can I actually name?

That's what I mean.

So, Jordan Love can't throw with three interceptions against the Raiders.

Some of those picks were really bad. You can't throw it. Do they still have a. Oh, one more thing. Is Bill Romanowski still there?

No, but did you hear a couple of years ago he was actually at the Super Bowl? Bill Michaels had him on, they talked about his book. Isn't Bill Romanowski like literally a piece of shit? Didn't he like beat his wife and take steroids? And I was always like, why?

Like, why do I want to hear Bill Romanowski? Like, why would I want to hear this guy? He's an awful human. Really quick, though, what we got to stop doing as fans, I don't do it. I've been pretty nice about the Jordan Love stuff, even after I didn't tweet anything or say anything bad.

Dude, I told you there's going to be some bad games and there's going to be some good games. Like, I would bet that Jordan Love has a really good game next week. Probably like three touchdowns, no picks, and looks good. Unless LaFlower. Sets him up for failure again.

Ball of flour. Good one. Also, Elton Jenkins. Terrible the other night. It's easy to shit on like the other guys.

I mean, he didn't give up a sack, but he gave up three pressures. I know he's not healthy right now, but he didn't look very good for an all-pro guard that just got paid. But we got to stop doing the. Oh well, you know, he's a gunslinger like Brett. Like yeah, Brett was a gunslinger.

But a lot of the like bad Brett, the interceptions and shit, were later on when Brett just didn't give a fuck anymore. But like in the 90s, when the Packers were winning games, like, yeah, Brett threw picks, but there were a lot more good throws than bad throws, right? That's why he was the MVP and played in back-to-back Super Bowls and won one of them. It's don't do the Will Rogers through three picks because you go back and watch that game that everybody's referencing. I know the game that they're talking about against Tampa.

You remember that game? Like they're down 20 to 6. He throws that ridiculous touchdown pass. His shoulder's fucking dangling. He hurt his throwing shoulder, and they should have won that game.

So. Like staff comparing Jordan Love to Brett or to Aaron because Bad news. Like, Joe Love could be really good. But he's not going to be Aaron or Brett, and nobody else is because I don't know what the fuck you people are smoking. And hate me all you want.

Those are two of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game. Like, hate Aaron Rodgers all you want because he wants to, you know, do a debate show with JFK Jr. against Dr. Fauci and fucking Travis Kelsey, which I can't believe is a real thing that's coming out of my mouth. But on the field, One of the greatest quarterbacks of all fucking time.

I know he won one Super Bowl. Give him a real head coach. Give him a fucking defense. Ever. You know, maybe one game, he doesn't have to go out there and fling a fucking Hal Mary off his off his back foot 70 yards.

You know, just to watch the defense, shit the bet. He doesn't even touch the ball in overtime, but I digress. It's not fair to compare Jordan Love to these guys. It's not fair to grade Jordan Love. It's not fair for people in Chicago to go on their radio shows and say, oh, Jordan Love sucks.

We don't know that he sucks. We know that he doesn't suck because he's a starting NFL quarterback. We don't know that he's good yet. But we know that when he throws into zone coverage, he doesn't. I like expect there to be people there, and he just like that, that he has to work on.

I need you guys to tell.

So, like, Jordan Love, I'll give a pass to. The goot love needs to be explained. Who do you love on the defensive side of the ball? Like, Quay, to me, you could say you love, but he's still an incomplete grade. I like Jair.

You know, Stokes, we haven't seen in a year. I like Rashawn Gary, but I thought Andy Herman had a really good tweet. There's a difference still between like a Rashawn Gary and a Max Crosby or a Miles Garrett. He's really a good player, and he's coming off a torn ACL, and he's young still. But.

Yeah like you said, dude Jordan Love hasn't really been set up for success. Is that all on LaFlower, LaFuck, or is some of that on goot? Because. You don't trade away guys like Devontae Adams, especially like if you have a young quarterback that you want to play in the next couple of years. That's who Jordan Love should be throwing the ball to.

Instead, he's throwing the ball to wait for it, Willie Lump Lump out there. Like, I like Jaden Reed, dude, but he's 20. You know, I like Christian Watson sometimes. He can't stay on the field. I like Romeo Dobbs, but he's like a number four on a good team.

Luke Musgrave didn't help Jordan Love out. Catch the fucking ball, guy. J Josiah DeGuara may have better hands than him. And then the offensive line. Don't get me like shit, just shit.

So, yes, Jordan Love, it's not really fair just to say he sucks. But uh you can't say he's he's he's good right now either, fair? I don't think that you can say he's anything. I think that he had a bad game. He had a bad game.

He needs better. He's had bad moments. He's had good moments. He's had moments where I'm like, This guy can be the guy. Like, there's an it factor there.

And then he's had moments where it's like, Uh okay, but also we are comparing it like We gotta get that out of our heads that, oh, this is like, you know, even the comparisons to like. Rogers started 2-3. Favre started 2-3. Even the comparisons, like, oh, that was a more Favre game than a Rodgers game. We got to just pretend like.

The last Packers starting quarterback we had was Don Makowski. and eliminate All of that, because we're comparing. people to like It's like, I don't know, man. It's like going, it's like being married for 50 years, the love of your life, such a passionate love, and then she passes away. And then on your next blind date, you're like comparing this random stranger to the fucking greatest thing that's ever happened to you.

Like, let's not do that. Yeah, and you know what I don't understand really quick too is like the people on social media that hate me because of like the the Jordan Love stuff and they come at me about the Jordan love stuff. You know what I don't get about it, man, is like. I like Jordan Love. I've said this a million times.

Like Aaron Rodgers and everybody else says, he seems like a really good kid. I wanted to see him go somewhere and play right away to see if he can play, right? But I saw when he was at Utah State, there was good. And there was bad, and the bad was bad. Like, he led the whole country in picks.

The good was awesome. It was like, oh, this dude looks like Patrick Mahomes. But I don't know why I have to have like this loyalty to Jordan Love. Whereas everybody's like, oh, you fucking you a Rodgers guy, you a Packers guy.

Well, it was like Brett. Like, no, I was more of a Brett guy towards the end because he was the starting quarterback for the first 16 years of my life. And now I'm more of a Rodgers guy, yeah, because he's been the quarterback like. Since I could first get into bars, that's I watched him win a Super Bowl. I watched him play with a broken leg and get hurt and.

I fucking loved watching him play. That's the best part about being a fan. I don't yet have an allegiance to Jordan Love.

So, what I'm saying is: hate me all you want, if it's going to be bad. I want it to be bad. I want him to lose every game the rest of the season, and I want Drake May because I'm 100% sure Drake May is going to be an awesome, awesome quarterback. Caleb Williams, I know, is going to be good, and we're comparing him to Mahomes. But I guarantee, in blood, just like I did on.

You could check the stamps. Just like I did with Justin Herbert. And just like I did with some of these other guys. Uh That's going to be Drake May. He's going to be awesome.

Do you think, and maybe you do see somebody? I think I might need to see a person to talk to. I think I might need to, I've got, I've got all these anger issues. Like, you know, you're worried about like, oh, these people that hate me because of Jordan Loves. But so I kind of, I feel like we're in the same boat there.

Like, I put my, if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna put my name and my, my reputation around passion it takes about the MLB playoffs, I don't need while we're talking, I have to scroll through my Twitter to see what the comments are because people are just, I mean, anyone with a clown emoji is getting blocked. Uh anyone that tells me to wear a mask is getting blocked. Yeah, I just don't understand. Like, oh, you're fishing for clicks. It's fucking Twitter.

No, I'm not. I don't have a blue check. Fuck you. I'm not losing sleep over like people not liking me, but like, I mean, I just some of it I don't think is the Jordan Love stuff, it isn't fair because I never came out and was like, fuck Jordan Love. Hope he snaps his neck.

Hope he throws 30 picks. Rogers forever. Instead, I was like, no, it's probably time for Rodgers to go. How many times did I say that? Like after the game against the Lions, I was like, he was shit.

It's probably time to see what you have in Jordan Love, and it's time for Rodgers to go see if he could win with a good defense. and young skill position players he likes. And then Rogers died week one, but I'm cheering for Jordan Love. But You know, I don't know if he's good yet. And I think that's fair.

And I actually watch college football, I watch all the games. Like, okay, for example, like Sparky brought this up because I was defending Sam Hartman because Notre Dame's receivers suck, and like his ear was bleeding on the first play of the game. He's got the shit kicked out of him last three weeks. The athletic director, there's a reason he's gone. Worse, and now you play USC this week.

But that's for their advantage. No, they're going to beat USC, but that's a break. I agree. I'm with you. I told you, but you lose to Louisville.

So now it's like, who gives a fuck because you're not going to the playoff anymore.

So But like I told Sparky Man, I like Sam Hartman, the kid. But yeah, like I don't want him to be the Packers starting quarterback because he's six foot tall and he can't see over, he's yeah. I like them. But If there's another dude behind him that could win games. I'd rather see the other guy because I want my team to win.

So that's just what I was saying with the whole Jordan Love thing. But it's way too early to say he sucks. I I lean he's still going to be good. More than I do that he's gonna suck. I lean that Matt LaFleur may suck.

I know that I don't like Gouda kits. I know you guys all love them. And then I know Joe Berry sucks. In fact, I'm pretty sure the entire coaching staff I think it's more likely Jordan Love wins a Super Bowl with the Packers than it is Matt LaFleur does. Like what makes Matt LaFleur suck other than his terrible in-game decision making and his like allegiance to some of these guys like A.J.

Dillon? And here's what I was telling Sparky: you know, because people keep telling me, well, you got to run AJ Dillon out there, there's no other options. Dude. How many fucking times do the Ravens like have a running back and they're like, nah, fuck this. And they'll just go pick up somebody else off the street.

And it's, you know, like, there's a bunch of dudes. Like, they just worked out James Robinson. I'm not saying he's the answer. But we watch XFL, USFL football, and college football. There's a bunch of good running backs.

Out there, at least like work some of these guys out, you know. And AJ Dillon's actually coming off his best game of the season.

So, this isn't three yards of carry, it wasn't that great. Yeah, at least like he found the hole, though. I mean, that's what I don't get. Like, there is a literally a gaping hole, a big gaping hole. Oh, you know who else I'm out on, and I just then we could get to the picks.

I like McAfee the person. But I think I'm out on the show. And like, I love AJ, but what's AJ just like the Zordon of the show? I'm out on McAfee's crew. No, I kind of, I mean, like, I still like it.

It's just now that they're on ESPN, they're everywhere. It's too much for me. Way that he well, I guess I do it too. Never mind. Where he like says something controversial, and then people get mad at him.

And then I'm then he's like, oh, geez, what are you? I guess I'm doing that with this baseball thing. And COVID. Hey, I want to talk about the Bucks Pro Shop first. Baseball thing is not controversial.

Like, I don't who like you're just fighting with like baseball dudes. Look at this sweet hat on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream that I got from the Bucks Pro Shop. Very pro, but this shirt I bought. The collar is already like Like I've been wearing it for 30 years. This is a brand new shirt.

Yeah. Hey, what is up with that? Like, that's my one, that's my pet Pivon shirts. I need a good collar, man. That's why I always, somebody doesn't like that I do this sometimes, but I pull my shirt back up so it looks like the collar.

Is a real collar, and then it just drags back down. I do the same thing, and my wife's like, You look fucking stupid. Maybe I'll do one of these. Don't. I'm gonna throw up.

I just showed Horvot some nip. Oh yeah, the podcast community. Um How about that Thursday night game? Yeah, I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

I can't believe the Broncos beat the Chiefs outright. No way. Yeah. Wait, dude. I know.

Well, once once my homes went down. Uh And wow, five touchdowns for Russ. What a game. He might be back and Yeah, I think a lot of it had to do with just the God likes him way more than any other quarterback. The worst part about the game.

Taylor Swift. New money suit and tie. Let's start with this one. No London game this week, right? No, there is.

There's one more. Jesus fucking Christ, man. All right, the Baltimore Ravens. Four point favourites out in London. Taking on the Tennessee Titans.

I don't know what to do in this game. Is Titans Theory in play when we leave the United States of America?

Well, Titan's theory only is in play when Tannehill starts. He's there. I don't know about international games. Mm. Let's see.

The Ravens need so what I said last week. Like, I got a bunch of picks wrong, but what I said last week about the Ravens and Steelers was true. We thought the Steelers would win that game. Because the Steelers are a team that should win seven games, they'll win 10. The Ravens are a team that should win 13 games, they will win 10.

You gotta, I don't know. Like The Ravens are better than this, but they're playing like. They're playing almost like. They're playing like uh A dad playing his kid. I just In basketball in the driveway, but the kid's like nine.

And so the dad still wants to instill some confidence. You know, once the kid's like 15 and he's on the You know, he's on the JV team. Then, then dad will try. I mean, you'll get a good one-on-one game, but right now, it's like. They're not giving their all, it seems like.

Something's...

Something's not right there. I don't know what it is. You know, I don't even want to overthink this, actually. It might be the wrong side, but I'm going to trust Baltimore. who's getting a little bit healthier.

to get right, more than like Tennessee's being for real. Cause like when it's like, hey, every week when we're like, let's make the case for how Tennessee wins this game. Like, oh, they could take away the football. Oh, Mike Vrabel's a good coach. Oh, Derrick Henry still got some tread on the tires.

Oh, sometimes Tannehill actually hits wide receivers. Oh, they have D-Hop, but. I don't know, man. Like Baltimore coming off a loss to the Steelers, a game that they probably should have won. It's Lamar has a lot more haters than most quarterbacks, I feel.

I love Lamar. His fucking receivers that we were all excited about, hang on to the ball. Obj can't complete four quarters. He's the new he's the David Bakhtiari of wide receivers. Like, he'll start the game, but he's not playing four quarters.

And he's getting 15 million to do this. Right. It was actually like a good deal for the Ravens, though, because they're not committed to him for next year. But nobody could catch the ball. Like, I like Zay Flowers.

He can't catch the ball.

So many drops, but I think they'll get right. I'm going to go chalk. I'll take the Ravens out in bloody London to kick the fuck out of the Titans. What do you think? I am going to take.

Wash your hands. I just noticed that. Um I'm going to try to take all bird teams this week. Let's see how that works.

So my first bird Because bird is the word. I will take the Ravens. I like the Ravens to win and It's not just London, it's London Town. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going to wake up. I'm going to have myself. You know, one of the games overseas this year is wait for this sports media story when it's Dolphins Chiefs overseas. I think they play in Germany. People are gonna be like, Why are we giving him our best games?

Mm-hmm. Just wait. Just you just you fucking wait, man. I think I'm getting uglier. That's what happens when you get older.

You don't get better looking. I actually would argue I'm getting better looking because I had like this phase, but no, that's not like a brag. I had like this phase where I was just, I feel like ugly as shit. You know, like I discovered Red Bull vodkas and. And it was it was Like after college though?

You know, when you don't really know what you're doing with life, and especially in radio, because you know It was hard to make money. Thank god for Chuck cooking me up with the AP from Miller Park. This is Ryan Horvot here at Miller Park, where the Brewers beat the Reds seven to six behind a three-run blast for Creshen Yelich. Freddy Peralta picked up the victory, but had his tits lit in the fourth. All right, anyway, let's move it on.

Let's move it on. We move out of London. We come back to the United States of America. Thank God. Where the Indianapolis Colts, I know, USA.

USA. USA. Let's call this the Bill Michaels Classic because we're going back to the USA. I might just wake up. Cracked.

No, I'm going to wake up. I'm going to crack open a bush light. You know, I might head out to the tiki bar, maybe fire up the grill. I don't know. We might do pork chops, maybe some ribs.

I don't know. You know, I was actually, let me remind you, okay? Coming up this Saturday at Stenny's, I'm going to be there, right? Mike Clemens is going to be there. We're going to be doing a little Packer show, right?

We might have a Packer. We haven't had it announced. We're hearing maybe David Bakhtiari if the station could gather enough money to pay him. If not, probably just going to read. Oh, hey, I brought this up.

Let me, you finish your thing. I got to say something. No, that was it. I just wanted to work in the Jerry. You knew.

Remember working at the fan when Bakhtiari was on the big show? Yeah. You knew the Sundays like watching the game. You knew the days like.

Well, he's got now he's not going to do his Tuesday hit. Like when he had a bad game or when he got hurt, you knew right then and there. box not coming on Tuesday, then they get the call at 1130 on Tuesday. Yeah, this is uh Peter and this is David's agent. David's feeling a lot of weather today and he's not going to be able to do the hit.

Still pay us for the hit.

Well, we'll make it up, you know, but we can't he can't he can't come to the phone today. Imagine being David Bakhtiari, right? You just lose to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You get the fucking shit kicked out of you by Sue for three and a half quarters. And then you got like.

you know, Mandela or me. Or or Toby calling you. Hi, uh, Mr. Baktiari. And then he's gotta answer fucking Bakhtiari.

And then he's gotta answer fucking questions from Steve, Gary, sometimes Zinzola's filling in. Is this Mr. Bakhtiari? Are you ready to go on?

Okay, and then you're like, you call, you don't want to come too long before because, like, you're only going to have to wait for 30 seconds on the air. They'll get right to you, David. I'll say this. You know who actually is a good interview? Like, when he gets somebody like one-on-one, though, is the big unit.

He's big game Bill, though. How do you keep bringing up Bill? Because I feel like Bill, we haven't talked about, because I kind of forget about Bill sometimes. I don't, I listened to a show the other day. Was it good?

I yeah, Bill, you know, Bill's a pro. He really is. I want back in on Bill's life. I do. I want him.

I want to be on a show and I want him to come on mine. You know what would be great? You know how, I mean, controversy sells. I would love to see. The Bill Michaels Show featuring Bart Winkler.

Oh, sure, yeah, they'll come right on over. Kinda like when the Bloods and Crypts got together and like made a rap album in the late nineties. Mm-hmm. Yeah, hey, I've built I'll I'll work for free. If if if Scotty Pippen and Dennis Rodman swung the same swung their dicks in the same shower in the nineties after what went down when he was with Detroit, I think you and Bill could work some things out.

You guys both are m men of fine taste, a good cigar.

Some red wine. Right? What's the one last Bill story? Remember when he literally made up a fake sandwich and then he would have us go and try to order it? And they'd be like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, dude.

I'd be like, yeah, the big, the big unit with the radio joint. No, the thing that the thing, the thing that I brought this up, he did a video. Asking the driver for it. Like, if you're gonna do a video saying, hey, I'll get the big unit. You have to like, and they don't like prep the person, say, all right, I'm Bill, I sponsor a show.

I'm going to order this and you say, oh, is that the pepperoni melt? Right this way, sir. Instead, he goes, oh, the Bill Michaels. And then they're like, what is that?

Some 17 year old kid. He's like. And then they go, oh, they didn't like, come on.

So I just see, these are things I could help Bill with. I'd love to be his person. Point man on social. I think I found it from eight years ago. You did?

Po-bod. Hold on, we're doing this. The one thing I love about Cousin Subs, they're everywhere in the state of Wisconsin. We're out here in Madison today going to the fishing expo. Before I do that, though, I gotta stop at Cousin Subs, get some lunch, heading into the studios over at the zone, and then we're heading over to the fishing expo later on.

Come with us.

So, Michael's here, welcome back. I promise you, we'll be back in the studio at the zone in Madison. And as you can see, we're here hanging out in the studio. No, it was a drive-through. Ah damn it.

Maybe I don't like it. Maybe I can. Yeah. Bill Michaels. I can't look for it because he blocked me.

This says Bill Michaels show intern Brendan at Cousin Subs. Wait, hold on. I got to see this. Oh, yeah, that kid. What's he doing?

It's cousins. I don't know, but That kid was like his friend's son. Hi, welcome to Cousins. How can I help you? Hi, can I get a Phil Michaels with a cider radio joe?

So that's a half a pepperoni milk with a cheese skirt. Perfect.

So he did have him do it. Side of Radio Joe. Thank you very much. The intern, the intern set the guy up better than Bill. Yeah.

Woo! Yeah. Mm-hmm. Alright, let's get to the picks. All right, well, I take the Ravens.

Jesus, that was the first game. All right, we got to get moving. All right, so then we move on to Indy. You brought it up, man. That was awesome.

Indian, I can't believe that they had the intern just go and do a lunch run, fucking tape it. Um Well, Indianapolis, the Colts are four-point dog down the road against the Jags. I bet this game. I bet the Colts. I don't think there's much of a drop-off from Anthony Richardson to Minshew.

And I think the Colts are actually pretty good. Their offensive line's playing good. Their defense is playing good. Jags probably win this game, but. That's a tough travel back to the United States.

They've been in London for the last month, for the last two weeks.

Now they have to come back. Yeah, that could be a play. Tough divisional game. Yes, I'm going to go with that angle. I'll take the Colts here plus four.

I'm going to take Jacksonville. They've already played, they played week one of the season. They're both in first place in the AFC South. Jacksonville is the tiebreaker because they won. I think they're going to uh Keep that tiebreaker.

And again, I think they'll win by the four.

So I will take. One bird and now one Tiger Cat. This is one where I feel like I'm dumb for it, but. Yeah. I'm looking at it this morning.

And it's down to two and a half. I think the Bengals might be back. I want to believe that the Bengals are back. I like Joe Burrow. You know, it's a fun thing to do.

Watch Joe Burrow press conferences. He doesn't give anybody shit. It's just one-word answer after one-word answer. But Jamar Chase had, what, 15 catches last week? Seattle's coming off a game where their defense looked like the 85 Bears because they were playing the Giants without the entire left side of their offensive line in Saquon.

They sacked Daniel Jones 11 times. I like Seattle. I just don't know how for real they are. And I feel like this is the best buy-low spot on Cincinnati. I bet them last week and they worked out for me.

And I'm going to do it again this week.

So I'll take the Bengals, two and a half point favorites. Where's the game? Incense. If it's in Seattle, I'd probably take Seattle. But I so I'm I'm not I'm already pivoting off my birds.

Yeah, this is a game I take the home team. You're going bangles? And I'm with you that the Bengals are back. I want them to be. I like them.

Well, I need to see. My fantasy leagues, I'm in like 10 leagues. Five I took Joe Burrow and five I took Lamar Jackson. God, I'm in this one league where I should be one and four, but I'm one and nine. because I love also loss to the median score.

Fucking loser thing to do. I found a Joe Burrow 50-1 to win MVP. I'm going to bet that actually right now, just because if he does get hot, and he looked healthy last week, and they're going to get T. Higgins back here. Um You're never going to get a price like this with Joe Burrow, so I'm going to lock that one in.

I like the Bengals, I could be wrong, though.

So, small bet for me on this one. I've been doing much better in college lately than the NFL Cowboys last week, man. Um, Saints Went from being three-point favorites down to one and a half. I think that's too much love for the Texans. I like CJ Stroud.

I love him. We talked about this last week. I know he failed the test. Don't care. Don't know what's on that stupid test.

Don't care what's on that stupid test because I know that he's a laser fucking show. The Saints' defense, though, might lock him up a little bit in this game. I'm going to buy low on the Saints here. One and a half point favorites on the road. I'll take a road favorite.

I like the Texans, and they should have probably won that game last week. But uh Yeah, I'll go I'll go Saints here. I think they're the better team still. Good details. Are they?

I mean, I mean, I don't think they're good either. Remember, I said I would put several hundred dollars on New England to win that game? They didn't score a point. Yeah, we both took New England. Mac Jones didn't even make he's He got the David Bakhtiari award last week, too.

The start of the game didn't make it all four quarters. Let's make that a new award on the show, the David Bakhtiari Award.

So, what's the like, is Mac Jones done? Is he done? I mean, he's starting again this week. I think he sucks. I think he sucks.

They brought in Bill O'Brien. I know he sucks. Because they didn't suck together at Alabama. I'm going to take Houston. I'm going to take Houston.

Okay, that's fair. Why though? Does you think the same suck? Uh I don't know. I was gonna flip a coin.

Ooh, fuck that game. Let's move on to this one.

So with no Justin Jefferson, right, I think the Vikings are going to be bad. And Desmond Ritter won last year. Dude, all of a sudden, the Vikings are in play for fucking Caleb Williams. Don't want that. No, do not want that.

Do not want that. I'd rather have. See, I want the Bears To keep winning, I like Justin Fields. And I kind of know what his ceiling is. He's a good quarterback.

I think he could be a good quarterback, but I don't think he could be Caleb Williams or Drake May.

So I think the move is actually: we're cheering for the Bears. But fuck, man. That means we'd have to cheer for the Vike. They might end up with Caleb Williams, dude. And you know what's.

I think if you're the Vikings, you know it's the play.

So Justin Jefferson doesn't like Kirk Cousins. Justin Jefferson doesn't like Minnesota. Do you blame him? The stupid horn. The stupid chance.

The Vikings be shitty and then allow Kirk to still throw for 350 yards and 45 touchdowns so that next year he can get a nice contract somewhere. No, you lose and be one in 15.

Well, all these yards will kind of be like Matt Stafford in Detroit for all those years. You you you'd have five fantasy points from him through three quarters and then he'd lead the week. I'm picking the Bears plus three because the Bears all of a sudden have an offense. Justin Fields is pushing the ball down the field. DJ Moore's had a hundred yard back to back games.

And the Vikings defense can't stop anybody. The only thing I like about the the Vikings, other than Jordan Addison, who's a rookie, who's now going to see more double teams, Is Justin Jefferson, who's out for at least the next month. I think the play for Minnesota should be lose this game. You're one in five. You try to get anything for Kirk Cousins.

You know, you try to get. And you know, you call Atlanta, Desmond Ritter won last week, but I think they'd take Kirk Cousins. Call the Jets, I don't know. But you lose every game the rest of the season, you get Caleb Williams, and that's what convinces Justin Jefferson to sign a contract to be the highest paid wide receiver in the league. That would just be my thinking because Kevin O'Connell, I think, could coach, but that team ain't gonna win with that defense.

But man, I mean, if you get a Once in a lifetime quarterback, you turn that around quick. But I'm taking the Bears at home, plus three. What about you? Do quarterbacks ever get traded like that, though, in the middle of the season? Every once in a while, not much.

Uh I'm gonna take the Bears as well. The this is uh The Bears are vibing and the Vikings are not vibing. Yeah. Vibing in the locker room. There used to be a bar in La Crosse called the Vibe or Vibe.

That's where I watched Tony Rumble fumble the extra point snap. Oh, in the playoff game? Yeah, it was on fourth and J, I think. Really? Yeah, now it's something else.

It's been like eight things. The vibes, huh? Yeah, it was a big pool hall at the time. There's a lot of pool space. Yeah.

Yeah. The Vikings. And you know what? You know, when I, when I used to go as a sports bar, So, I used to go in there and I would like hear people talking. And I was like, you know, this just kind of sounds like.

Sports radio. It's just people talking about sports at a bar. And that's how I've always tried to, ever since then, I tried to, that's what I tried to do on the radio. It's just, it's just two guys at a bar talking. That's all it is.

Yeah. I like that. I like that. You know what else I like? I like the Miami Dolphins offense, and that's why they're a 13 and a half point favorite over the Panthers.

But I look at this injury report. As we record here on Thursday for the Dolphins. I Don't think I could take the Panthers at 13 and a half. Don't think I can take the Dolphins at 13 and a half. We got to make a pick, got to pick every game.

Give me, oh, God, what do I do here? Carolina. The number's too high. Carolina's bad, dude, but uh. Give me uh Miami.

No, I'll give you Carolina. Here's my new rule: if I can't count to that number in Spanish. I do not take the favorite. I like that. He can't get to 13.

Uh, dos tray, no, say siete otre natural dies. What the fuck's eleven? I don't even know.

So we go with Carolina plus 13 and a half on that notion right there. Yeah. They backdoor it, maybe. I don't know how they cover in that game. I mean, well, the Dolphins, all these guys missed the game.

Carolina goes in there and keeps it close. Bryce Young plays his best game as a pro. There we go. Panthers plus 13 and a half. Lock it up.

Niners are seven and a half. Jesus, that moved all the way to seven and a half on the road against the Browns. Problem for the Browns is we already know no Nick Chubb. Maybe no to Sean. DTR is not going to start.

You're going to PJ XFL legend. Uh p Mm-hmm. PJ Walker's starting. Possibly. Give me the Niners until we know otherwise.

What's the spread? Seven and a half. Over the Browns? Yeah. So I opened my eye.

I finally like Brock Purdy is good. This sucks. Yeah. I know.

He was pushing the ball down the field last week. He looked really good. Shit, this is tough. Give me actually. I think the Browns are going to cover, though, man.

Seven and a half. Do you know that there's nicknames I have for teams that I don't like that I've made them up? For instance, the Vikings, sometimes I'll call them the Vik Queens. Yeah. No, the seahawks I call the sea chickens.

I like that one. The Cowboys I call the cowgirls. Do you ever just call players by their numbers? And the 49ers, guess what I call them? I call them.

I call them the 40 whiners. Do you ever just want to call him The Dicks? You know what I mean? Sorry. The dick.

No, but I will take them. Seven and a half, I'll take the Niners. Although, what's the weather gonna be like? What's our weather? Who who can we remember?

Who's the guy that was Security Day and the one that did the weather on the fantasy football show with Tim? Yeah, it was great. You do the winds and everything. Yeah, that's the thing. You're gonna have to check the weather report on like all these games, man, especially like the Midwest type games, because it's gonna be a bunch of rain and wind.

It's gonna start raining here Friday morning and not stop until like. Halloween. That's why I need Notre Dame to actually win a game with Halloween.

Sorry. USC is out there like spraying their players with hoses. All right, we got to wrap this up because I got to go to work.

So let's rapid fire these bitches. Washington, the fighting Tobies. Two and a half point dogs on the road against Atlanta. Atlanta, a two and a half point favorite. Anytime Atlanta's at home, I like Atlanta because Desmond is a real quarterback at home.

I think the fighting Tobies suck. Like. Atlanta could stop the run. Washington's not going to be able to run, meaning they're going to have to drop back Sam Howell. Their offensive line can't protect Sam Howell.

So give me Atlanta. Give me the Dirty Birds, two and a half point favorites. What about you? Yeah, I thought Washington had something there, and then they are bad. They are.

They are very bad.

So I will take. Begrudgingly, the Atlanta Falcons.

Well, are they going to move to four and two if they win? Jesus. Yeah. And that's what I need, baby. Over eight and a half wins.

That's what I told everybody to bet. All right. New England's a three-point dog. Does that make you want to take them against the Raiders? It makes me want to take them.

This is it. This is the final time I bet the Patriots the rest of the season. I think they win this game outright. A little bit too much love. For the Raiders for beating a shitty, sorry, I said it, shitty Packers team.

Give me the Patriots plus three. Season on the line, Bill Belichick, life on the line, Mac Jones, career on the line. It's like Ric Flair versus Sean Michaels. Probably not a great example because Ric Flair lost that match. But well, I don't know, I was going to say if he was like a protege, like Belichick's not going down to Josh fucking McDaniels, so I will take New England also.

What if it is? He's like, sorry. I love you. And then he just hits him with sweet shin music, though, just knocks Belichick out. That'd be fun.

Yeah, maybe. You know what? Belichick's, yeah, he's Ric Flair though. Are we rolling with that? Yeah, Sean Michaels, Ric Flair moment, Josh, Josh, McDonald's.

All right. Here's a good one. Velichek is going to retire on Monday. Hey, here's two games. Two games.

Two guys that they tried to write off, but they didn't write back. The Fighting Bakers are at home and they're catching three against the Lions, three-point favorites. This one scares me for the Fighting Bakers because they can't really run the ball. But here's the thing: you can't run the ball against Detroit anyway. It's going to be Baker trying to hit explosive plays.

You know what? No, no, no. Give me Tampa. I'm taking the fighting Bakers. Bakers for real.

He's at dive bars with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin during the week. Give me the uh box at home. Plus three. Dan Campbell, the coach of this team, Campbell's soup, very delicious. You can warm soup.

You can cook soup. You can heat up soup. You can't bake soup. Stretch of the week is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah.

I think they're for real. I want to hear Baker's all charged up because he just went to the Red River shootout and got to see his boys win. He's going to come and bring that mentality back. Fuck yeah. Yeah, Dylan Gabriel season.

Eagle seven-point road favorites over my Jets. Not happening, Bart. Give it to me. E T S Jets, Jets, Jets. They win this game outright.

That's my Horvot hot dog. Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog. Special of the week. Jets with a couple picks in the game. Come on, come on.

No problem solved. Brees Hall scores not one. Not to. Not three, not even four. Five count of five touchdowns.

Jets win that game 42-17 in a route. And you know why they do it, Bart? You know why they do it? Don't you dare. Don't don't you dare.

That love is that. Lovely. What is that? Are those speakers? That love will find a way.

My two teams, my Super Bowl. We got the Packers. No, it's a check it out. It's a light. Oh You got a jet light in your living room?

Well, I had my Packers and then I had my Jets.

So when the Packers are on, I turned my Packers light on. And then when the Jets were going to play, I was going to turn my Jets light on, but then they killed my guy. And so now I don't really care about the jets, but I have this fucking light sitting in my living room if anybody out there wants to make me a deal. Uh I'm going to take the Eagles with all that being said. And that's, I think, what I will clip for YouTube.

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin'. Into the future. I want to fly like an eagle. Crashing down. Fly like an eagle let that spirit carry me Want to fly.

Like a motherfucking eagle, baby. Oh, no, no, we can't sing. People got mad when we singed. Oh no. That was on the radio.

This is on the podcast forum and the YouTube page. Take off your shirt. There you go. Yeah. Yeah.

Dude, is this the sweetest mirror you've ever seen? What is that? Yeah, I like that. I like it. Yeah.

Yeah, probably $3 too much. But we move out to Los Angeles, where the Dodgers got eliminated. Your Dodgers, they go down in heartbreaking fashion. Oh, darn. Rams, seven-point favorites over the Cardinals.

Cardinals are starting to come back down to earth, and all their good players are dead.

So give me the Rams minus seven. I like the Rams actually quite a bit. Cups back. Puka's still Puka. I think Tutu's the odd man out if you're like playing props or fantasy.

I don't know. How they treated Van Jefferson. Brian Jefferson, give me the Rams. Seven-point favorites. The Cardinals are as disgusting.

As that little spider hanging off there. I like it. This is where I broadcast. Looks like where they had the boiler room inside SummerSlam when it was Mankind against Shawn Michaels. Yeah, that's where that's where I'm that's where I'm doing the show.

Okay. I like it. Who you take it? Uh what game? The Rams and the Cardinals.

The Rams. Cardinals are gross as the spider over there. Oh, gotcha, gotcha.

Okay. The Giants are 14 and a half point dogs against the Bills. The Bills are at home in this game. Survivor pick of the wee. Yeah, I'm taking the bills to cover, if anything, in this game.

I'm not going to really bet it, but give me the bills. Did you see that? Yeah. What was that? I don't know.

Streamer has been doing this weird shit. If I do thumbs up, I think a thumb will pop. Maybe not. The other day I said like. Whoa, celebrate, and then like fireworks went off.

I don't see it. How did those guys go? What the fuck? What about double birds? Double birds aren't showing up.

What about suck it? All right, so I do know what's the spread, 14 and a half. Yeah. So I don't know 14 in Spanish, but I know 15 is quince, like quince in era. Yeah.

So I can count to 15 in Spanish.

So I will take this spread. I will take Buffalo. Yeah. All right. All right.

What about the Cowboys? Two and a half point favorites over the Chargers. I got to go with the. Cowboys actually to bounce back. Everybody's writing them off, but they ain't writing back.

They're not writing back.

Now. I'm going to take the Cowboys here. I did a whole hour on CBS Sports on uh Wednesday night about how people hate the Cowboys for no reason. How'd it go? Uh I don't know, I think viewership, listenership.

I think I think CBS Sports Radio got bankrupt 'cause of it. At least you weren't talking hockey. Oh, I didn't mention hockey once. Good. One time I tuned in.

Yeah, we had tried to jam a triple header down my throat the other night. I was like, bitch, I want to watch part of my take reruns. Or uh around the horn plug. Hello, man. How about my Blackhawks with uh Conner Bedard?

Okay. All I know is that Brad Evans says two and a half shots on goal. Always take the over. Also, I'm not sure if it was Brad Evans, but I saw he was on your show. Oh, and I saw that he was on stadium the other day, live on the line.

Yeah, I think that's his show.

So it's like we're at. Maybe I'll get Brad on. Brad's a friend of the old show. One day though, you guys could reminisce. Who are you taking in the game so I could go to work?

The game. The Cowboys and the Cowboys. Cowboys, Cowboys. Cowboys. All right.

Well, hey, man. Virtual high five. Thanks for having me. Another successful week, hopefully. Although last week I lost the best bet with the Cowboys.

So hopefully. Hey, if you want. Feel free to join our next live stream, which will be Sunday night after Bucks Lakers' preseason, Damon Giannis, for the first time. I don't, I don't, I'm not going to be watching pre soon. All right, sir.

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