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Go! Bye, buddy, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler. It's the Friday, November 10th. Addition The show.

And Horvat. Off of his suspension. We suspended him last week. Yeah. It was a pre-suspension because we knew that.

I'd be pissed at him. You are like now the second biggest douche I know that likes the Cubs in Notre Dame behind Craig Council. Oh, are you even excited? Like, do you even care? Like Cubs fans, I don't even think Here they got a manager that they think is good.

They're just like. They're just like, fuck the Brewers. Because Chicago doesn't think they have a rivalry with the Brewers, but. I was the main character of Cubs Twitter all week. People like that.

It's a rivalry. It's a rivalry. We don't like you guys. You don't like us. I mean, like, it wasn't a rivalry because, like, especially for me, because my great uncle used to call games for the Milwaukee Braves when they last won a World Series.

Shout out to the great Earl Gillespie. But I didn't hate the Brewers because growing up, like, my Cubs were in the NL Central. They're sucked. They're harmless. I went to the ballpark every day and I was watching fucking Brian McRae and Kevin Ori and a bunch of losers win 68 games.

And then I had a couple of years of Sammy Sosa. Roy ended up hitting home runs, and that was the greatest time of my life. Like, we didn't, there was one year where we went to the postseason, and you know, fucking people blame Steve Bartman. It wasn't his fault that Alex Gonzalez booted that easy double play and they ended up losing to the Marlins.

So like You know, the Brewers were in the American League.

So, if anything, I kind of cheered for him. I'm like Team Midwest, especially now that I'm stuck here on the East Coast. you know, anybody but Minnesota, I'll cheer for. Uh but It's like Then all of a sudden Brewers come over to our territory, the NL Central, right? They start beating us, and that's cool.

We're like, okay, that's a cool story. Like, we got our World Series in 2016 with a bunch of young dudes. You know, we were like the scrappy underdog team, even though you guys don't want to believe it because we're from a big market. Like, the socks get more, the socks almost get more attention than the Cubs do. Like, growing up, all my friends were Sox fans.

They had like the cool hats and the cool. Nobody cares about the socks. Oh, I'm wearing this goofy fucking blue hat and blue and red jacket, looking like Bozo the clown. The White Sox hat. I always wanted to be a White Sox fan growing up, but I couldn't.

Like, here's the thing: I would love to be a Brewer fan. I'm a Wisconsin fan mostly. I like the Packers, but growing up, my grandfather and my dad were Cub fans. You know, even when we would go on vacation in Florida, WGN, the Cub games, were carried there. We'd go to Wrigley Field because nobody else was there.

And we rooted for a shit team. To eventually win a World Series, finally got that. You guys come over to our territory and then it's hang the L, hang the fucking L every time we lose. Like it sucks bad enough to lose a baseball game when you have a five-run lead and some asshole comes in and blows a save like Chapman. And then all of a sudden I go on social media and it's hang the L, hang the L.

You hang that fucking L, bitch. You hang that L. We got your manager now, bitch. What I've noticed is. Every time I get mixed up with Cubb's Twitter.

There's just an enormous amount of, you can't win. There's a million of these 55 follower accounts. Saying cry more, what's a Bart Winkler? Burt. I mean, it's just, it's the same nine things that 7 million people say.

Fuck all you guys. You know who I really blame? You know who I blame. Steve Bartman. We can blame Craig who we should.

Backstab bitch. We should blame Mar, we can blame everybody. I blame Bud Selig. Bud Selig's idiot ass. He's the one that wanted the Brewers in the National League all these years ago because he wanted.

I don't know, Cubs fans. If we don't go to the National League, we don't hate the Cubs. And the council's never, it never, this betrayal never hurts so bad.

So, fuck button. Like, growing up, I know you guys hate to hear this. Growing up, you could cheer for the Milwaukee Brewers and the Chicago Cups. I did.

Okay, then you just admitted it.

So why now is it like? I only, I don't, do I talk any shit ever? No, I hate my, I talk shit about the Cubs.

Well, you hate baseball. I like it when my team's good, so I've liked it for many years. I've been 24 years on this planet, they've been good. Like, I cheer for a shit team. I can't turn my back.

Like, this year, I hate this fucking Packers team. I have to talk about this team three times a week. I want to tear my fucking eyeballs out watching this team. And yet Like, I'm still going to be there every Sunday, dude. You know what I mean?

I'm still going to cheer for them because only a loser stops cheering for his team.

So I don't think I like baseball horror. I'm happy about Craig Counsel, but I also find it crazy because growing up, I thought it was so nuts that Michael Jordan came back for that final year and he made 30 million. And I was like, 30 million for one season?

Well, it is Michael Jordan. And then you look at Craig Council, the money he's making to manage a fucking baseball team. It's wild. I mean, I'm excited because it shows that the Cubs, these losers, the Ricketts family and Jed Hoyer are actually going to go out there and try to spend some money. Because if you're spending that money on your manager, you better be going out there and making a trade for Juan Soto or throwing the bag at Shohei Otani.

And I want nice things. I want to win another World Series. I deserve it. You guys deserve it. Like, I hope one day you get to walk.

Like this year, when you guys get in the postseason, every year that the Cubs suck, which is every other year, every year, pretty much, I cheer for you guys to get your World Series so you can experience that joy. Like luckily, my grandmother was still on this planet. My grandfather, like when the Cubs won the World Series, I was in tears on the phone. I was stuck in Iowa at the time, like with my family talking about it. It was one of the greatest experiences.

We're going to the graveyard like listening to the radio with their dead grandfather, dead dad. It was, it was awesome. I want you guys to experience that, but it is a rivalry. You guys, we got your manager. Mr.

Mr. All Wisconsin comes over to the north side of Chicago where the women are beautiful. The beers are expensive, but the atmosphere is great. That ain't a baseball game. That's a Jimmy Buffett concert every day at Wrigley Field, baby.

Every day. And I don't want to hear about the bathrooms. Don't tell me about the bathrooms. They fix the bathrooms. That ain't your grandfather's Wrigley Field.

There's a fucking sports book. I think you could get a lap dance. Right along third baseline now. Like these ballparks are becoming crazy in these markets. Not ours.

Ours, we need a new HVAC system and the city's got to pay $400 million for it. See, I always liked Miller Park, but it just smells like ass. Like right when you walk in, it smells like cheese and ass.

Well, yeah, 'cause we're all fat and we always fart. Like Wriggly Field though smells like piss. I currently weigh the most I've ever weighed in my life. I weigh the least I've ever weighed in my life. I'm a fat fuck.

All right. You wanna talk to someone? I think I actually probably start like bulking because, like, when I'm in the sauna, everybody's like, man, you're thin. I'm like, you saying I'm a pussy or something like that? Yeah, let's get to the games because.

Forgot I got like eight of these today, and I'm pretty sure.

So, really quick, tomorrow night. Um is going to be my forty first Dave Matthews concert. And my favorite Dave Matthew song is number. Forty-one.

So I'm pretty excited. You gotta let Dave know somehow. And so I've been like. Fucking in the sun all week, like wearing my mask. Yeah, we'ren't like.

You know, not because I'm one of those guys, but I don't want to get sick. And everybody in my studio every week is sick. Of course, today I get a text message from a shoe. He's sick. If one of those motherfuckers Gets me sick before concert number forty one.

Ooh, I will never forgive. You've really seen Dave 40 times? Yeah, 40 times. This will be number 41. And my wife.

Has seen him like 25. And then for Nathan, because he's coming, because. I'm not paying for a babysitter and we can't do anything without them, like anything fun, because. Like you'll experience this because you have an only child as well. This is why.

My recommendation would be to have another, but like Amanda, now our kid's 10, so we can't. It's like we've passed that. But he has to do everything with us. Like, if he had a little brother, like back in the day, I didn't get to say, hey, mom, dad, I want to go see. You know, Zeppelin, well, they weren't around.

You know, I wanna go see REM. I know they didn't see my dad only saw like good concerts, and that's why I was always pissed. Hey, Hootie's back on tour. Like My dad one time But anyway, so we got to take my kid everywhere. I'll never forget the most I've ever been pissed at my dad.

He was like, my parents got divorced, and he was like dating this 24-year-old smoke. And on New Year's Eve, I was a fan. Remember the bandouen? Push the little daisies and make them come up. My dad, like with this young chick, went and saw Ween on New Year's Eve.

And I was like 11 at the time. And I'm like, fuck you. I want to go see Ween. He didn't even know who they were. Did you go with them?

No, he went without me. But like, I take my son everywhere.

So, this is going to be Dave concert number three for him already. Wow, does he like them or is it? Yeah, I mean, like, he likes the experience. He likes, so Carter Buford, in my opinion, is the greatest drummer on the planet right now. Um, I'd have to fact-check that.

I don't know if he still is. I gotta check who's still alive, but he's awesome. I love him. I wear his jersey to the concerts, number 41, Buford. And Nate's into the drums.

He wears his little headset. We're fucking jacked.

So let's get to the picks. I'm so excited for this college slate. I hope I'm not too hungover because I also have to do my show, though, on Saturday. Do it beyond Saturday. Will you compete with me?

You still have an open invite to Pittsburgh. I'm going to Pittsburgh. What is that?

Next weekend. Oh yeah, that's who the Packers play. Yeah, I'm going. Oh, fuck. Are you going?

Yeah. Oh man, I might have to meet up. That's not too far from me. How far is Pittsburgh from the DMV? You know what?

Maybe I should go actually. I really hope if I have COVID, I will put fucking his shoes. What is up with you guys? Why, why? COVID's over.

It is never me. I can't help though when I'm in the studio, dude. Just go to work sick. What the fuck? Dude, they don't Well, I do.

That's the thing. Like, especially during football season, during baseball season, I don't want to be there healthy. You can't be over the age of 20. and not come to work because you have a tiny cough. Go to work.

Well, in today's world, like you kind of have to.

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Unless you're Gordon Bombay, then you just get pulled over, and instead of getting a DUI, they're like, Hey, you want to just coach a kid's hockey team? That made sense. And then, like, first day of practice, there's just a bunch of innocent children on the ice, and he pulls up in a goddamn limo. Like, not thinking, hey, this could break the ice and I could kill all these kids. But the greatest invention ever.

Are these like dab pens, these uh weed pens? Because then you just bring them into the concert. You know, 41, one sweet world comes on, baby. You just hit the pen. And nobody knows.

There's no smell. You know, because I can't, like, you know, back in the day, I'd bring some blunts or some joints into the Dave concert, you know.

Now you can't do that with Nathan there. Can't just sit there like, buddy, the first time I heard this song, you know, I was 16, had my, never mind. Let's get going with the picks. Let's get going with the picks. Check out the greatest adventure ever is actually the light bulb, but the weed pen is good too.

I should be. I should be um A spokesperson for Happy Place Hemp, he should hook me up.

Okay. The Ryan Horvat and Bart Winkler show, 9376, The Hog. Get the fuck out of here, Bob and Brian. The real renegades are taking over morning radio, you old farts. Maybe that's my way back in.

Maybe I can take over the hog morning show. I've been saying, so, okay, so that's what we should do. Fuck Sports Radio. I want the hog. You move back here.

We do the hog. We're the new Bob and Brian. Yeah, and then people will be like We'll get Chuck to forgive me for something I never did, and then he comes over because we got to have him on the show because. Like this time though, I want like a microphone. I don't want to be like shoved in a room.

But like, nobody, nobody, you can take over for Bob and Bryan because nobody's going to be like, who are these guys? I miss Bob and Brian because Bob and Brian have sucked for 20 years. Yeah. Yeah, who's gonna miss them? I Like, who listens to that shit in Milwaukee, by the way?

Everybody radio, like, guy radio. That's all we like. Like what guys? Like no offense, but like guys nowadays don't want to just like make dick and fart jokes and talk about boobs and degrade women. In Wisconsin they do.

We fucking go to the gym. Like yeah sure we go out and we have drinks but like you know we're trying to like better our lives we go to the gym we're looking out for our bank account We're trying to save up some money, take care of our children, be good dads. This isn't 1975 anymore. Get with the Times. Anyway, you can still be an alpha male, right?

All right, let's start with: are we doing the Thursday night game? What are you posting this? When do you post Malone in this? Um, Friday. What about those fucking Panthers beating the shit out of the Bears?

In what world were the Bears three and a half point favorites? In what world does my wife still have these mini pumpkins on my? I'm like, what the fuck is that smell? Oh, it's smashing pumpkins over here. We haven't thrown out any pumpkins either because I was told it's still fall.

You got fucking get rid of those things, turn them into pie. Are we starting with? Early slate Sunday. Yeah, we got a game in London. No, in Frankfurt.

We do. Yeah. We give Patriots Colts. It's the worst prime time or national televised schedule that's ever happened. But I, oh, I still got to do that.

I got to find. Pittsburgh's got all these tailgates. And one is like, one is with like normal pricing. It's like, hey, if you just want soda, but then food, it's 20 bucks. If you want some beer, it's 35.

If you want, you know, call drinks, it's 55. And then if you want all this with great seating and whatever, 75. And I'm like, oh, okay, I mean, that all makes sense. And then the one across the street is like, All you can eat and drink, $12. And it's like.

Uh I don't trust that one. Yeah, see what I do. But we can watch it. Yeah. So we got we got Patriots Colts.

This might be one where I don't need to wake up that early. You know what I mean? Like, for Friday night, going to Dave Matthews. Saturday, just an excellent day of college football. I got this weird feeling Penn State's going to beat Michigan, dude.

And then, like, Sunday, I like to sleep a little bit. It's the one day I have. Of peace, but I guess I'll wake up because I'll be betting the Indianapolis Colts who. Decent offensive line. Minshu Media could push the ball down the field a little bit.

They have two capable backs. I like Moss. I like Jonathan Taylor. And the Patriots are shit. They're two and seven.

They're shit. I'm starting to question. Like has the game passed by? Bill Belichick, a little bit. I thought there's some chatter that.

They might leave them in Germany if they lose. They should. They should leave his ass in Germany. Although Would that really be a bad thing, the way that this country is going? Nobody's ever done that.

We're always like, leave them there. I want some day, like. When McDaniels lost in Detroit, they should have left him. Don't come home and fire him the next day. Literally kick him off the plane.

No, dude, it was like when Lane Kiffin was at Alabama and he was doing a post-game interview. And like literally during the interview, he's like. Oh shit, I think my bus is leaving. Oh, my boss is leaving. And they just left Lane Kiffin when he was at Alabama.

Saban was just like, fuck him. Let's just leave him there. And they won. They won, but they like didn't score in the second half or something. And Sabin was like, fuck this guy, and just left him.

That's what you need. The problem is, the only person that would actually leave somebody in Germany. Is Bill Belichick.

So the only way that that happens is if he like leaves himself. He's like, fuck it, I ain't coaching this team anymore. I mean, Brady clearly has won the divorce. I think Bill's a great defense of mine. I just think, like, I'm not saying the game's passed him by.

He could go to Arrowhead and probably coach him to a 9-0 season, you know, but like. I just guys don't want to be like bullied anymore. You know what I mean? Like, that's why Brady wanted the fuck out. Like, he would even pick apart Brady in the team meetings.

Like, how are we going to win a Super Bowl with a quarterback that can't complete a simple bubble screen? And Brady's probably thinking, like, fuck you, guy. Like, I won you these Super Bowl rings.

So I. I like Indianapolis. I think the Patriots are dead. R.I.P. rests in peace.

Hey, how much better is WWE than AEW? I don't even watch AEW anymore. Yeah. Remember is Paul is Paul okay with that? No.

And I don't even read the recaps anymore. Where's the other one? Paul hit me up with the text message a couple of weeks ago and he was like. If you had to choose which of these guys to keep, and it was like Goop, Jordan Love, and LaFleur. And you'd be happy to know.

Actually, you would hate to know that Goot would be number one. Uh LaFleur would be or Love would be two and LaFleur would be three. For me. Anyway. I digress.

Let's move over to the United States of America and let's go out to Jacksonville. You know what I love about Florida? You don't have to pay taxes. Sure, there's a tremendous amount of hillbillies out there and there's hurricanes, but the women are beautiful. The weather is always nice.

And I love those like Jimmy Buffett type restaurant bars where you could like convince your wife that you're going to dinner, but really, you know, you're drinking like three of those fishbowl things and you're just going to get. Wrecked. Oh, I took New England. Yeah, I know you said it. Oh.

Wait, no, you didn't actually. Oh. I'm gonna take because Because America needs to reassert its dominance in Europe and the Patriots. Oh, yeah. Fuck, I didn't even think about that.

And yeah, like, yeah, you're right. They might. I'm going to stick with my pick. I'll go Colts.

Okay. The Jags are three-point dogs against the San Francisco 49ers, who are five and three, but all three layers. Three-game losing streak. They're all coming in a row. Three-game losing streak.

I like the Jags, the cover. I think the Jags are a good football team.

So, like, you can't really run on the Jags. San Francisco likes to run the ball. Trent Williams, most likely not going to play in this game. They get Debo Samuel back. Here's a hot take for you: I think Trent Williams is the most important player.

For the San Francisco 49ers. I know Brock Purdy's getting rid of the ball quickly, but if you look at like Pro Football Focus, they have San Francisco's offensive line graded number 22. The reason that nobody ever talks about it is because of Trenton Williams, everybody else grading out really poorly. Um We're Packer fans. We see what bad offensive line does to a young quarterback.

So I'm I like the Jags in this spot. I think San Francisco is going to have to push the ball down the field. And Purdy might throw a couple picks here, make a couple mistakes. And I like this Jags team, man. I wouldn't be shocked if they're in the AFC Championship game, maybe even the Super Bowl.

I like T-Law, I love ETN. They gotta get the defense figured out. They really fucked up not drafting. Hutchinson going with Walker. They should have drafted Hutchinson.

I thought he was the for sure thing. But I like the Jags that covered the three here. Maybe even win this game outright. I like the Niners only 'cause they've lost three in a row. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.

Can they lose four? I like Jacksonville a lot, a lot, a lot. And I agree with how far you think they can go. But for this game in a vacuum, I'm going to go against you again, and I'm going to take the Niners, and I'll take them to cover even. Just the three.

Yeah, I like that too. All right, let's move on. You're with me? I'm of the Jags. Oh, I'm on the Niners.

I know you just said I'm listening to you. And then you said I like that too. No, I get your thinking. Like, that's why I keep going back and forth with this one. I mean, I took the points with the Jackson.

Are the knowledge really Yeah, thanks. What do you think about the Houston Texans, as seven-point dogs, taking on the Cincinnati Bengals? I'll tell you what I think. I like the Texans. I bet them plus seven.

And the Bengals are playing great football right now, but how about CJA? Big game Stroud. Oh no, he didn't do good on the SG2 cognitive test. We still don't even know what the test was. No, but I watches it.

It was just a report that, like, he failed a test.

Well, show me the test. What's the test? This is a test. I know. I agree.

I think that we're A little too Premature. To take The Texans here. I'm going to disagree with you again. And go with Cincinnati. Even with receiver questions about health.

I like this. We got some head-to-heads this week. I know. I. I think like I don't feel great about this week, so I wouldn't be too worried.

I like to- I feel like next year. The Texans next year would be like Four and a half point underdogs in Cincinnati. And I would take them then. But I just feel like we're We're skipping ahead a little bit. And so I am going to take Cincinnati to cover the seven.

That's a high spread, though. Wow. Yeah, dude, that's a really, really, really, really big number. And the Texans, I think this Texans team is pretty good, actually. They got a solid pass rush, they got CJ Stroud.

I like them to at least keep this one close. All right, we go out to that dump, Minnesota, three-point dogs. I I don't hate the. I mean, I hate the Vikings, but I fucking hate that they have Dobbs now because I love the Josh Dobbs story, man. I mean, he goes earlier this season.

What game was it? I specifically rooted for the Vikings. When did that happen? I was rooting for the Vikings. Was it against the Bears?

Oh, the Niners! Yeah, I was rooting for the Vikings over the Niners. I despise the Vikings, but. I don't know that I. I d I hate the Vikings.

But they're like as likable as they can get right now. Even Yeah, that well even before Dobbs. Kirk's all like everybody's best friend now. Yeah. Jefferson rules, Addison rules.

I mean, I still hate the Vikings. I mean, you know, I think they're not bothering me because they're not good. If they're like this little fun. eight nine win football team whatever If they're a 13-win team that's winning bullshit and their fans get all fucking cubs about it, Then I hate them. Oh Another shot to us Cubs fans, huh?

I don't like it.

Well, anyway, they're three-point dogs against the Saints. I'll take a favorite here. I actually like the Saints to cover. Saints are playing some good football finally, they're five and four. Figuring some stuff out on the offensive side of the ball.

I like Camara to go over his receptions every week because Derek Carr just dumps it down to him. And like Minnesota is a fun story right now, but. You know, I just don't know what Dobbs is going to be able to do against a legit defense. Granted, this game's at home. It's a tough place to play.

Give me the Saints, actually, minus three here. Was two and a half. Um, yeah, you know what? I'll ride with you on that one. I'm not totally confident about it.

I think the Saints are bad. I think the Vikings do end up making the playoffs even with Dobbs. Really? Yeah. There's nobody left.

The defense has been a little bit better than I expected. It's been a little bit better than it was last year. I just think that Steele, this on your show, this is what I've been saying on all my shows. I say, I'm going to give you the following teams, ready? Rams Tampa Bay.

Atlanta. New Orleans, Green Bay, Minnesota. Washington. Two of those teams will make the playoffs. Two of those games are making the playoffs.

You want me to name the teams, or do you think that's like a hot take? Because I agree. No, I want you to highlight that. That's because the because. That's in the NFC.

The Eagles are in the Cowboys are in the Lions are in. The Seahawks are in and the Niners are in. The Cardinals are out, the Panthers are out, the Bears are out, the Giants are out.

So there's two spots left. And the teams that are left for those two spots are Washington, Minnesota, Green Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, and the Rams. And one of those NFC South teams is going to win their division.

So, everybody else sucks.

So, let's say the Saints from the division. One of the following teams is getting in. Washington, Minnesota, Green Bay, Atlanta, Tampa, or the Rams. That's going to be the worst seven seed of all time. I know, I bet Atlanta and Tampa both to make the playoffs.

I liked Atlanta more coming into the season, but. I like where Tampa was heading and then they lost three in a row. Arger Smith sucks. But I need a lot of Baker this weekend because my Chiefs. And my Eagles.

That means my Patrick Mahomes and my Jalen Hurts. Are out with buys, and I didn't plan for this.

So it's Baker Mayfield time in all of my leagues. Oh no.

Well, let's go to that game, actually. That's what's next on our schedule. Baker, a one-point favorite over Will Levis and the Titans. Ooh, dude. Um hmm.

Fuck tough. Wouldn't bet this game. If I had to. Let's see.

So there's been some reverse line movement. Titans Flipped here. Give me a Tennessee. I actually like Tennessee. I will.

Will Levis has been pretty damn good, dude. I think the Titans may have found something. I know that there are a few. Yeah, but he throws weird. Yeah, I mean like he throws like like he loves him Mm-hmm.

And so I can't tell if you just watch before the camera goes down the field. I can't tell, like. Is that a throw deep or is he. Throwing it out of bounds. I don't know.

And also, like, if you look at it, he hasn't really been good on like standard downs, down to downs. He's just had a couple like explosive plays in both games. But I'm going to suck her into. If I was putting, well, what does Titans theory say? I don't think it applies this week.

Yeah, it's like It's not sure it applies with Levis. It's a pick against Tampa. Yeah, this might be a whole new thing where we have to watch it. Titan theory might have been, we might have to retire it. I like, how about, how about Tampa theory?

Is don't take them. They suck, but you take them anyway because you're an idiot. Every time I bet the Bucs, they fucking blow. Like they have the ball for like five minutes. Like I bet them against the Eagles.

They had the ball for like three minutes in that game. The Eagles just ran it down their throat the entire game. It was the most uninventful football game. And Mike Evans always finishes two for 83 with a touchdown. Yeah, and he catches the touchdown though in like the fourth quarter.

You really gotta wait for that fucking thing. It's like already down two scores. Yeah, I'll go Tennessee, but I don't really love this game. No, not at all. Man, what about this one?

Because Baltimore's on fire right now. Best team in the league, in my opinion, on both sides of the ball. They're seven and two, but they're six and a half point favorites over the Browns. I'd have to take the Browns. Like, I know the Ravens have been covering these numbers.

I've been betting them every week, but the Browns have one of the best defenses in the league. Deshaun's back now. You know, they still have Amari Cooper. They got Njoku going. One last week.

I don't think this is a six and a half point spread. And I know Baltimore's taking some money here, but I'll go Browns. I mean, I'll wait and bet this on Sunday, see if we could get a seven. But I like Cleveland to keep it close, I think, here. Maybe even win outright.

Baltimore's just been so good. Yeah, Lamar is awesome, man. I mean, he's like running when he is running, he's running into light boxes. Three receiver sets, four receiver sets. OBJ finally caught a touchdown last weekend, and it didn't even come from Lamar.

It came from fucking Tyler Huntley because it was a blowout. Lamar was on the sideline watching. That's how good they are. I think what I've been saying about Baltimore is, I think that they can win in any setting more than any other team. I agree.

Because they have a strong run game and they could rush the pass. If they're on the road, if they're in snow, if they're in heat, if they're in. Wherever. Um I'm going to take Baltimore to cover. I'm going to go against you again.

All right. I don't hate it though. I mean, I get it. Baltimore's my Super Bowl pick. Atlanta Wait, hold on.

Let's make sure we don't get another one o'clocker.

Okay, Atlanta, Arizona. Have you transitioned? What do you mean? Because I call them noon games. Oh, yeah, there one.

Yeah, I've transitioned. Brutal, man.

Well like big noon kickoff here college football is really a noon kickoff for me. I mean now we're actually I can't fucking, you know how I get confused with these things. I have to. I can't wake up. Yeah, how are you doing with daylight saving time?

Because. You're the, you're honestly the. You're very smart and knowledgeable, but Time zones, you just, it doesn't work and your brain won't do it. No, I just like, I don't want to. You know what I mean?

Like, I could probably, but I just don't I only care, I'm selfish and I only care about myself. I just need to know when I need to get from point A to point B. When I need to pick up my son, when he's done with school, what time I need to be on the radio, what time my radio hits on. Which Speaking of, anyway, I digress. We move on.

Let's go out to Arizona. Where the Cardinals are one and a half point dogs, and I bet. The Cardinals. I'm worried about Atlanta and my playoff bets, my over eight and a half win total, because Arthur Smith sucks. They don't have a quarterback.

They're not using Bijan for whatever reason. Like, here's the thing. Right. If There's a game where Tyree Kill has three targets. And Mike McDaniel goes to the podium.

And he's like.

Well, we'll get him the targets next game. You know, it was a Jalen Waddell game. He had. 10 catches, two touchdowns. That makes sense.

Use Tyreek Hill as a decoy to take the top off the defense as your speed guy. You know, if the Raiders are even like, we didn't use Devontae, it was a Jacoby Myers game. Makes sense. If you draft a fucking running back. in the top 10, top five.

He needs 25 to 30 carries a game. Like Adrian Peterson, Derek. Yeah, they're treating him like we treat Aaron Jones. Or you better be fucking 9-0. You know what I mean?

Because, like, when Arthur Smith, I hate Arthur Smith. You're not smart, dude. He's like. You're doing more as a decoy. You're not winning football games.

Get the ball to your best player. Arthur Smith thinks he's one of these, he should be a high school coach because he's one of these guys that think, like, Only I can understand football, and you guys aren't privy. Oh, fuck you guys for reviewing tape. And the fact that, like, pro football focus is a thing. Fuck you.

You know, fuck everyone. Fuck you off if you doubt me. I'm I'm the Fucking Wink did fuck my girl. I'm still standing here saying fuck the free world. Yeah, yeah.

He's like, Yeah, yeah, Desmond Ritter did my girl. That's why I benched him. But I know something about you. You went to Cranbrook. That's a private school.

I think Arizona wins this game. I kind of think Kyler is going to ball out the next couple weeks because he wants to get out of his shitty situation or prove that he's a starting quarterback so he continues to make that money. Give me the Cardinals. Yeah, I hate. I don't like the Cardinals.

I don't like the Kyler Murray Cardinals. I don't like Kyler Murray. I think he stinks.

Okay. But take them to win because they're all coming back, I think. Connor's coming back, maybe. Yeah. Yeah.

Big old party. And then their fans are going to be like, I wish we would have lost because of draft pick. Kyler needs to win. That's the thing. Kyler needs.

Oh. take take cardinals what's the over under right now take the over Tyler needs these wins so the Cardinals can get out of that draft position.

So they're not tempted with May or Williams. Kyle Murray. Second half MVP. Take it to the fucking bank. Because he has his job on the line.

Okay. Yeah, but like, what if he wants to get himself into a different situation? You know where he'd be perfect? Atlanta. Uh, yes, anyone fast, like Lamar, anyone like that would be fast.

Well, yeah, they could have, they didn't even make Lamar an offer. They're fucking dumb. They're like, We got our guy Desmond Ritter. Oh my God, Dallas is a 16 and a half point favorite over the Giants. In a divisional game, give me the Giants plus 16 and a half.

Give me Danny DeVito's son, Tommy. In the New York Football Giants. If Brian Dayball was really coach of the year, I get he's coaching a shit show right now. If he was really coach of the year last year over. Siriani, who took a team to the Super Bowl.

He should be able to cover 16.5 in a divisional rivalry game.

So give me the Giants plus sixteen and a half against the Cowboys. Um, no, I think the Cowboys I think they go pedal to the metal is a phrase that I made up. That means like when I hit my gas pedal and go really fast, I'm like, well, I'm going to the metal. You didn't make that up though. Oh, that's literally been like.

I did make out Blackout Wednesday. I fucking know I did. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. They were saying that in Jilliade, Illinois: Blackout Wednesday at large.

When I mean Well, we were going to the bars in the sophomore year of high school for Black Wednesday. I made it up before that. No, you didn't. Fucking no, I did. No, you didn't.

You heard it from somebody else. Nope. It's like when my cousin thought that he had this great idea and he took it to try to take it to Shark Tank, Mark Cuban show. and it was a toothbrush. With toothpaste already in the toothbrush.

And he told me about the idea. And I looked at him in the eye. And he's my cousin that's 10 years my elder. He's older than me. I looked up to him growing up as a role model and I said, This has literally been a fucking thing for like twenty years now.

Cool. You didn't come up with this invention. You've seen this somewhere. And in your head, you know what? I invented after I got kicked off the radio.

I invented being able to deliver audio and video in a different platform. I invented podcasting. I invented. Nothing. Uh You invented Nathan.

I did.

I did that. I did that. I did that. Um, all right. Let's go out to Seattle.

Even flow. Gotta set the tone with some grunge music. Ha hee! No bees. Yeah.

The toll Still alive in that survivor pool, dude. Wa what? I'm still alive in that survivor pool. Oh, me too. I got a different name, though.

Yeah, I got a different name on there. I forget because I don't mean to do it. But like I use different aliases and names now. I was going by Johnny True Love because what I do is, and I'll give you a little, I'll give you a little taste of it.

So I bet women's college basketball. And I have an uncle who used to coach. Um And like Like this year we're 15 and one So for example, I mean, this will be too late, but you could go back and check if we won this one.

Southern Illinois over 145. That game's coming up at 6 p.m. on Thursday night.

So, Southern Illinois, Edwardsville, we're taking the over 145. But I keep getting shut down from all these books that won't allow us to bet women's college basketball.

So sometimes I accidentally will put like Johnny True Love or one of my other three names on something. You know. 'Cause we want to keep winning the monies because I got braces to pay for and All types.

Well, I'm taking the Seahawks, is why I bring that up. They're my survivor pick. Who are they playing again? I just, I uh, the Seahawks. This is the one literally talking about.

Yeah, yeah, I like the uh I'm with you, dude. I had the commanders last week, I had the commandos outright. But I think they get bounced here. Seattle needs a win. And Geno hasn't looked very good.

You know, what Detroit did. Detroit went to Baltimore, got their ass kicked, came back home and won. That's exactly Seattle's going to do the same thing. Yeah, it'll be uh the headline here in DC will say Sleepless in Seattle. This is Stackless in Seattle.

This is the Gino sitting there like. This is the longest I've ever been in a survivor league. The previous high I held was week two. Wait, so who's your pick this week? I'll tell you if you're going to lose or not.

Seattle. Let me look real quick. No, Seattle. You should use the Panthers against the Bears. Last week I used the Steelers on Thursday night football.

It was so nice to just get it over with. Oh, I would have used him this week. Who do they play again? The Steelers. They play us.

I know, exactly. All right. The other team I was thinking about was none. I was thinking about none other teams. Yeah, you're right, dude.

I think, have you used the Cowboys? Yeah. That's the obvious one. Um Yeah, Mills are good. I think Denver might beat Buffalo.

I think it's a good idea. I think Denver is becoming like a good football team. Yeah, we'll get there in a second. I don't really have much interest in this game. Raiders, Jets.

I should, because it should be Aaron Rodgers against Devontae Adams, but instead it's. Lebetard's taking that conspiracy that he never really heard is Achilles mainstream. I've never given a fuck about less of a fuck than any of this stuff, even like the Rodgers stuff anymore. God bless college football and things I actually why did the Jets keep Zach Wilson? He sucks.

The Jets are like. Hey, I'm married to my high school sweetheart, but I'm going to go off to college and find the college girl. But along the way, I'm also going to be with you, but I'm just fucking this college girl. And then I'm going to. Come back to you.

Like, I'm coming back to you, but I'm just gonna fuck this girl for a while. They should have paid Mike White and cut Zach Wilson if they couldn't get anything. If you're bringing in someone because Zach Wilson sucks, you don't try to have him learn under Rogers.

So he's still going to suck. It's not like Rogers is going to be like. Yeah. I mean, I'm with you, dude. He's no good.

He's not good at all. If they had Mike White, they'd be able to win these games, they'd be able to move the ball. Problem is, I think they just they couldn't get anything. I'm all in on the Antonio Pierce bandwagon, so I will take the Raiders. Me too.

At home, the Jets are a half point favorite. I've honestly never seen. A half point is a favorite. Yeah, I like the. I'll go with you on the ring.

How are they a half-point favorite? I don't know. That doesn't even make sense. Is that a typo? No, it's just who wins.

I mean, it's different in different books. Like, I got them as one point dogs, the Raiders. We'll take that. Let's go with that. Half point?

Take the one point in case it's 28, 27. Get the push at least. All right, let's head out to Save Green Bay, right? Yeah, and I don't want to talk too much. I've talked way too much about Buffalo on the radio, so I'll take the Bills to win, and I don't want to talk about this game.

Okay, I'll take the Broncos to win.

Now your trash game of the week. Which I am spending. Money to go see. In Pittsburgh. I'm getting there.

And then I think on Saturday, I will be going to the Penguins Sabres game. Wait, dude, we hold on. We forgot to pick one of the best games of the week, and it's because I bet it was at the top. Chargers, Lions. I like the Lions to beat the Chargers.

Jerry Goff. Usually, I bet against Jared Goff on the road, but he's just going to be able to get it. Is that a one o'clock game? No, it's a 405, so it snuck up on me. Oh, so I can watch it?

Yeah. Yeah, I like the Lions in that game. It's hard being at NFL games on the early slate because then you got to wait until they do their red zone updates every fucking. Yeah. That's, I don't really like going to games.

I kind of just like sitting on my couch, to be honest with you. Yeah, me too. But it's nice to go with the boys. Oh, it is. You're right.

Like, you got to go to one game a year. Don't get me wrong. But yeah, I like the Lions, dude. Like Jared. And I've never been to Pittsburgh.

And what else would ever get me to Pittsburgh? Like, all right, so I'm taking the Steelers. I'm not like the Steelers haven't lost at home to the Packers since Bark Star was fucking quarterback. Which is a little bit of an overrated, like misleading stat because they don't see the Steelers and when they do, like sometimes, you know, obviously they play at Lambeau, but still, I mean, tough place to play. Mike Tomlin, a way better coach than LaFlower.

Uh, Kenny Pickett and Jordan Love were like the Spider-Man meme, where both are shit for the first three quarters of a game, but then they could turn it on in the fourth quarter. But I know one thing about the Steelers pass rush: TJ Watt actually gets home, and I love Rashawn Gary. But other than that, you know, the Packers defense played a little bit better last week. Granted, it was against the fucking Rams and Brett Rippen, Wisconsin. But I like the, I unfortunately have to take the Steelers here.

Well, Aaron Nagler had a tweet about the last Packers team to win in Pittsburgh. And I'm gonna I'm gonna go, I'm quote tweeting it and say. I'm about to make this all about Me. Going to the game this weekend. If the Packers haven't won.

In Pittsburgh Since Bart Was there I'll rectify that. On Sunday. Gary on T Dublin. for the green and gold. Really?

Because I'm going to be there. Bart's going to be there. That's a good point. I didn't even think about that. This is the way that you have to pick games, Ryan.

Let me tell you. the one who does it professionally. I'm taking New England and Germany because USA fucking rules and I'm taking me in and I'm taking me to win because of me, me, me. I put the me in media. I put the me in.

Uh, me going to Green Bay Packer game. I put the me and pierogi sandwich. No, you don't. I put the me in I put the me in, oh daddy. The fuck is going on?

All right, so my official bets for the weekend. I like the Saints, I like the Texans, I like the Jags, I like the Lions, I like the Broncos. College football exclusive. No one actually fucked that. You gotta listen to my show.

But I do like um Penn State plus four and a half. There's a little bonus pick for you. I don't have anything else. We talked at the beginning. About the Brewers and Cubs.

Sometimes we use that to talk about the Packers. I don't really have much else to say. I think anything to say is just kind of repeating ourselves. I do hope that this game on Sunday. isn't like Like I'm checking my fucking watch kind of bored.

On some of these games. Like that game was. For three quarters, just boring. All these other games, I have no, I'm having the time of my life. I watch Bears, Panthers, I watch Patriots, Colts.

And this guy right here is having the time of his life. And I I'm just like, wow, football's so cool. And then when I watch our team, it's kind of the same thing. Grant always says this with the Brewers, Grant Bills, is he watches baseball and then he watches the Brewers and he's like, there's no way the Brewers play that sport that I'm watching. I'm watching these playoff games in Philly.

The Brewers do not play in the same sport, and the Packers are like boring as fuck. And I'm gone. Yeah. 'Cause that's what that's what fans do. Fan is short for Fantastic time.

That's what happens when you trade away your Hall of Fame quarterback for Lucas Vaness. Guys, Lucas Vaness, when you put it that way. Is that Dutch, Venice? It has to be. I don't fucking know.

Remember the flying Dutchman Rick Smitz? Remember Dutch from uh The shield? My best friend's name is Dutch. His last name is Duchesne, but we call him Dutch. Doesn't really, I never understood it.

But um That's when you know it's time to go probably on the podcast. Ryan, appreciate your service. Hey, man, I appreciate you having me every single Wednesday or Thursday. You know, whenever we can make this work, hopefully, we could get on a more routine schedule. But that's up to you.

Shit's been crazy around here, man. Shit's been wild. Hopefully, everybody in my studio stops getting sick. And hopefully, next time we talk, I could give you a review of my 41st, count it 41st day, Matthew. Spooning spoon.

Dude, he opened with that last night. Fuck yeah. It's a good song. Awareness on that song? Is she there?

No, but she's on the song. That's her. Did you ever do Halloween? Yeah, he does actually. I'm hoping to hear it.

I phone that song. Barry own, bury on, barry own, barry own. I'm not gonna stack this fire. Oh, walk away. I'm talking to you.

Oh, I love when he screams. I know. It's like, where the fuck did that come from? That's what I love. Like, you know what?

When I go and get my vitamins from the vitamin shop, they're always like, You got any plans this weekend, bro? And I'm like, Yeah, I'm going to see Dave Matthews. And they're like, Dave's still touring? And I'm like, Fucking Dave still touring. Dave would come in here right now and put his sack right on your chin.

Very underrated musician. And like, I don't get the people, like, all of a sudden, like, the cool thing is to like hate the day Matthews band. Don't get the people who are playing perfect harmony on that stage. You get the guitar, you get the drums, you get the fucking saxophone, you get the clarinet. Funny the way it is when you think about it.

Yeah. Not a good job, but he had to move out east. Yeah. Love the east coast, man. Love it, baby.

Love it. You know what I miss most about the Midwest? You guys don't understand what you have. N the pizza. But Italian beef and jardoner.

They don't have any jardoner out here. I have to import. No, I have to import Jardiner from From back home. Funny the way it is. When you think about it, Craig Coffin wants to manage the Cubs because it's a short commute to work.

Milwaukee's become a suburb of Chicago, thanks to Craig. Shout out Spark Guy Take.

Well, and when you think about it, you got the Brewers who were a couple years ago were in the NLCS, the Bucks who just won the NBA Finals, and the Packers, but there's no sports radio station in Milwaukee. Funny, though. Bob and Brian were taking over. Yeah. Hey all, you know what I watched the other night?

Law and Order. Did you see the tits on Sandra? My god. Funny the way it is. When you think about it, I'm embarrassed by a little pit stain, so I'd rather take off my shirt.

Oh, dude, I came from the gym. I got like the sweats going on. Yeah, looking good. That's a funny. Watching over the sea, or whatever the hell they say.

That's my wife's favorite song. I gotta get a photo of that. Oh, fuck. This is the perfect way. I should put in like my tabs.

Sometimes when I take like screenshots, I like to put like xvideos.com and I send it to my wife. Just, you know, like things that you wouldn't want to do, I like just do just for the shit of it. That's why you're horbut. Thanks, buddy. You're goddamn right.

All right, man. Hey, I'll see you later. Funny the way it is when you think about it. That was fun. Ryan Horvat.

Great to have him back in the saddle. Oh boy, boy, boy. I got some voicemails. As these proceedings continue. I also do want to tell you about.

Tupelo honey. They are downtown. And they are I don't know if I'm. Hmm. I'll have to ask.

Because I wanted to say, like, it's. I want to swear. I want to emphasize how delicious it was. By swearing. You know, because I'm on a podcast, I can swear because I'm cool.

But I wanted to be like There. Good. you know I could never do that before. And I want to add that um to it. Because I had that sriracha chicken, the honey chicken.

Bam! And I got to try their breakfast. I've talked to some people about Tupelo Honey. There was somebody the other night, Clyborne on Broadway, across from the public market, downtown. Make reservations at tupelohoneycafe.com.

When you're making your reservation, Then you can put, like, there's a message: like, any notes, any special put Bart Winkler show or Bard or something or. Whatever.

So here because of the Bart Winkler show. And then you'll get 20% off your food. Up to six. Um So do that. And then Show me pictures.

Do you want to do some sort of like get together there? Probably we'll try to take Tim Shea there next week. I don't know if he knows or not. Or if he thought that that invite I extended to him was fake, which at the time it was, but then I thought about it, and I do want to. Go back there, but I also do want to treat him to a nice meal because he's a really good friend, Tim is.

Um But I haven't had their breakfast.

So I've talked to some people like, oh, I've had their breakfast, but I haven't had the other stuff.

Well, I've had the other stuff, lunch, dinner, but I haven't had the breakfast.

So I got to get out there. for that. Man, country-style fried chicken and waffles, and fried chicken thighs, and I had the grits and.

So much great stuff. I haven't even gotten into like the beverages yet, booze or otherwise.

So I'll want to try that when I get there. Uh basically, it's just going to be um a once a week thing of me trying new foods. Um At Tupelo Honey.

So check them out: tupelohoneycafe.com, get your reservations in. Downtown Milwaukee. Like right where the downtown meshes with the third ward. It'd be nice if that big highway wasn't there.

So soon it'll be torn down. And then we'll build a park right in front of it. It'll be called Bart Winkler Park. I got a few voicemails I want to get to. Carl's Place, Carl of VT.com backslash Bart.

Thanks to you guys for always. Sending me these. Uh let's start with landmark. Who is calling in? Landmark.

Good morning, Bart. It's Landmark. I wanted to weigh in on the two primary topics you've been talking about this week, which are the Jordan Love situation and the Craig Council situation. We'll start with Jordan Love, because I've got a little bit more to say about that.

So with Jordan Love, the thing here is it doesn't have to be the polar opposites. It doesn't have to be he's going to be amazing, and it doesn't have to be he's trash, garbage, hot mess. But what we can do is what the brewers always do, which is be the b-boot boys and look at the stats and what we see with our eyeballs. Right now, with Jordan Love, what we're seeing is this man is someone who's going to have a lower completion percentage and some other things that are a little bit scary. Could that change?

Yes. You know, there are players like Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts who took huge jumps in their second and third years to improve their completion percentage and improve their play. Do we think that Jordan Love has the same tools as those guys? Out for debate. But the reason that I bring this up is to say that if we're looking at Jordan Love, Right now?

He is sitting in the tier of quarterbacks that includes Rux Grossman, Gardner Minshew, Lake Bortles, Baker Mayfield. That's a wide range of guys. But if we think that's where he's going to be, and again, we don't know, but statistically and what we see with our eyeballs, that's where he's currently falling as we're here today. And essentially, a decision's got to be made. Curious in a while, we're still gonna figure it out, but that's That's the way that I look at it.

We can do some projections and make a decision from there. The other thing with Pride Council, come break off the old parenting speech. I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed.

Now, people will say, oh, you can't blame Mark, you can't blame Craig, you can't blame anybody. Everybody's got some blame in this. The brewers never should have let it get this far. That was one thing that your boy Chuck said. It's like, if Craig said to them that he's going to be out here in the streets looking at jobs, they should have been out there looking at new managers.

They could have made a very competitive offer to him early on and not let it drag out this far. You know, it's disappointing that he went to the rival, but he played out his contract, so he used that wild card to go do what the end man needed to do. But anyway, Hope you have a good time in Pittsburgh and. I'll catch you later. Bye.

See you, Landmark. No, I'm still fucking furious. Craig's a bastard, and I'll never root for him again. But at least I don't have to like pretend to root his kids on. I'm not going to root against them.

I just, now I can go back to not giving a shit. Craig Sunwon State. Who? Who fucking cares? Uh Craig.

Different different Craig. This is our guy, Craig Thompson. Hey Bart, Craig Thompson. Hey, I'm just calling to weigh in on the whole crack. Yeah.

to the cubs thing and I couldn't agree with you more. Um but I don't understand I've been a Brewers fan my whole life. I love baseball. I have a suck. I cannot play baseball.

So I've always been a huge Brewers fan. And when I found out David Sterns are going to the Mets and there was a good idea that councils are going to the Mets, it took all season for me to come to terms that there would be a good chance that Crack Council might be holding up a World Series trophy as a New York Mat it starts could somehow not. go crazy stupid things like mutts from offices usually have. The problem I have is him going to the Cubs. You were talking the other day about us being cursed.

If there is a curse, can the baseball guys please curse the Cubs again? It's just not fair. Give me what the highest paid Manager in the history of baseball. He's going for a team that could very easily become a contender within a season or two. Then what, you're gonna win the World Series and still be able to live at home?

and drive eighty miles or whatever it is to games, like it's just not fair, like If there is a guide. A baseball guide, please curse the cubs. Please do not let this happen because it's just not fair. I've suffered. I'm 52 years old.

I've suffered my entire life. I was never so happy as a human. Like when I was like 12 years old or 11 years old, I needed to My God, I can't wait to watch them. It has been forever. And the only hope we I had was that our team, like he's a good manager.

He was able to create. a lot with nothing. And just wrap hair. I agree with you 100%. Like, I am now turning.

I'm just pausing it for a second. I'll have that finished, but. That's the kind of guy, Craig Council, that you're... That you're fucking over. That's the kind of guy you said fuck you two.

Guys like Craig. That's the kind of guy you said fuck you to when you said you're born a brewer. And it it The more I think about this, If Craig Council Had it in the back of his mind one day that he wanted to manage for the Cubs. I don't know. Just like this May fucking flower truck at midnight bullshit.

Would it have been better this whole time if he said, God, you know, I really respect the Cubs. I could see myself there someday. Yeah, probably. We'd probably be like, ah, fuck you. Be a brewer.

And be like, look, I grew up watching the Cubs too. They were different leagues. We'd be like, oh, so did all of us.

Okay. Like I just talked about with Horbot. But it was so out of nowhere. It's like Fucking pisses me off. Cubs fans telling us to get over it.

Yeah, that's because you're on the good side of it. Look at these Brewer fans. Look how upset they are. Look how happy you are. Every action has an opposite and equal reaction, you dumb fucks.

You're happy, which means someone's sad. Funny the way it is, someone's happy, stealing a manager, and the Brewer fans are sad. Come on. Thank you, my God. I can't wait to watch them.

It has been forever. And the only hope we I had was that our team, like he's a good manager, he was able to create. a lot with nothing. And it's just right here. I agree with you one hundred percent.

Like, I am now turned off on baseball. Like, I don't even know if I tin watch baseball next so Game of that. And the only other thing I want to touch on are these window rippers. Who want the Packers to uh tank so we can be in the get it a top 10 draft pick.

So right now If we were to finish out in what, we were going to jump up to say number four. North Carolina, Chicago. And Arizona are all good, you're lucky in the top three there, and with Chicago getting at least two of those kits.

So what are we going to move up to number four? Then what?

Well, I'll tell you what our number four pick is going to be. We'll either be Dan Jackson. Javon Bullard Junior or David Daniel Savan Jr. You know who those are? They're Georgia safe teams that no one's ever heard of because that's what we do.

We overreach. We don't take the best available player. Athletically, we take what we think Good that good kid thinks he needs ran away and See them where they fall.

So key things we need is safety and for some reason the last few years The Georgia G Okay. Uh oh. Let's finish. I'm sorry, I'd have to finish this slide. I was hoping to get under three minutes, but...

Again, this is current.

So what I was saying was is that just because Georgia pays licensing fees to the to the Green Bay Packers for the use of the G doesn't mean that we have to draft. First round Georgia players every year. And so, to all you guys who are singing there, oh, wow, we got the number four pick, we're the fourth. Blah blah blah blah blah nurses. Marvin Therson Junior or whoever else and go next or whoever.

Yeah. All of a sudden you hear one of those three names gone. Oh yeah, I didn't warn ya. Because like I said, we don't pick. Because we have there is nobody Above good events, who cares?

He doesn't They don't care. Grass. Mark Murphy does not care. He'd rather finish Lambo World. and make sure that he has the amusement part set.

before we put another Super Bowl trophy in, what does he care?

So that's my two cents. Enjoy your time in Pittsburgh. And we'll look forward to hearing from you on Monday. Have a great meeting. Thanks, Craig.

I probably won't. I don't know what I'm going to do. When I went to Buffalo, I brought all my equipment out there, but I drove. I'm not. Putting all this shit on a plane.

I might just do a YouTube. I don't know how I'm going to get it on Spotify. Also, why am I acting like I'm the most important show ever? If I don't have a Monday show, I'll live. And so will all of you.

I'm always like, should I do a show? I've been dancing around it all week. Like, am I promoting myself? Am I promoting myself not doing a show? That makes no fucking sense.

Here's Matt in the Falls. Hey Mark. The Um listen, there's there's something I want to point out because it keeps getting Brought up.

Well, it doesn't keep getting brought up. That's the thing. So this counsel versus fav thing, as far as like who's the bigger betrayal, and all these things about all the times that you've said fav went to the Vikings, blah, blah, blah. You never said that he went to the Jets first.

So counsel going straight from the Brewers to the Cubs is inarguably worse than Favre going to the Vikings because he went to the Jets first. It wasn't like I'm leaving, like, you know, it wasn't the direct fuck you of going from the Packers to the Vikings. That would have been worse than Counsel. But since Favre went to the Jets and he was like, ah, you know, yeah, yeah, I guess I'll go play with her the Vikings. That'll be funny.

I'll go fuck the Packers. But it wasn't, it didn't have a direct cutting effect.

So let's keep that in mind. And with that, I think we can. Say that council is definitely worse, yeah. The quickness of it all.

So, I was asking: is it like at least with Fav, there was that long, there was that long buildup, there was the animosity. It all sucked. I'm not making it it all sucked. But this is so sudden. I don't even know that.

We've fully processed what happened yet. Maybe we won't until we see him in that Cubs jersey. Jesus God, that's going to suck. Odds out for the next brewers manager, betonline.ag. Don Mattingly, three to one.

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Bucks in action on Thursday, and they lose to the Pacers coming off of a back-to-back. And it's one of those back-to-backs where you. Are home and then you have to travel.

So it's two games in a row, but You do have to have a little bit of travel. Not that Indianapolis is super far away, but. Travel is travel. The Bucs lose 126 to 124. There was a last-second.

Chris Middleton make at the end.

Now they lose by two points. And this isn't Really Reflective on this night. I'm going to use this night as an example. But it is something that I. Always question.

There were two points that the Bucs gave. The Pacers tonight. That was when Adrian Griffin got ejected. He had two. Technicals in one sequence.

and then got ejected. And I just, I have a hard time, and I understand, like. Why coaches sometimes want to get ejected? It fires up the team or whatever. In this case, the Bucs were leading.

And Yannis just made a bucket. And the Bucs were leading, but Griffin. I think had it in his mindset. Based on post-game comments on Wednesday. That he wanted to Show Giannis that he was defending him.

That he needs to do a better job. And this is something that we wish Bud would have done. Giannis got officiated, he hasn't been officiated maybe the best. of all these like superstars. And Bud would always just kind of like sit there.

But if Griff was going to do this, I think the time to do it. was when Like things were happening You don't You don't get ejected the next day. It's like in baseball, if you're mad that. The Chicago Cubs showed you up. You don't then fly to Pittsburgh the next day.

And being the pirates. Like, it's happening. You're mad at the wrong set of refs. You're mad against the wrong team.

So. I thought it was curious. I did see a lot of people online being all pumped up, saying, Hell yeah, Griff, that's exactly what we need. We need that fire. And I'm thinking, I hope those two points don't come and bite us.

In the ass. And I think they did.

Now we don't know how the game would go. And, you know, it's always, it's hard to take those, but I'm not totally keen in situations saying, All right, here's points. I'm going to do something to get back at you. Here's points. I'm gonna do something to get back at you.

Here's first base. given these things up, I I don't necessarily like doing that. The Bucs did have a lead, and it looked like they were going to extend that lead. And then we're missing some shots and the Pacer shots went down. which tends to happen when you have a lead and then don't have a lead.

That tends to be the sequence. And then the Bucs had a nice look from Chris. He kind of leaned into a three-point shot, but. I thought it was a decent look and then you got that look again and then made it. But time had expired, and they lost by two points: 126 to 124.

Again, no Damian Lillard tonight. I'm not sure if I actually referenced that or not, but no Damian Lillard. Tonight. You know, resting him. This was the first time that we didn't see him.

A great comment here from Captain Cool's man. If you don't know why we did, if we don't know why we got Dame, this game should explain it. And they probably win that game with Dane.

So, this is what I think we need to take stock of at this point in the season for the Bucks. How what kind of What are you going to take away from the game? What do these games mean to you? What is what did you see tonight? Did you see a team that Out of back-to-back without Dame.

Griff got ejected. Prunty's out there on his own. Giannis did everything he could, putting him 54.

Some nights at Not Your Night. Did you see that? Did you see, hey, this is a winnable game? Even with all those things stacked against them. Bucks Bluet at the end there.

Did you see that? Did you see. Uh, what is happening? This is pretty bad. Wow, we really need dame.

Holy shit, what happened? Did you see that? It's just kind of like, what did you see? Did you see another game where the Bucs, like, Never comfortably have it. They are trying too hard to get these wins or even be in these games.

And I'm worried about that. Because it seems to be a little harder for the Bucs than it is for a team like the Sixers, who the Bucs beat, or the Celtics. Who finally got a loss?

So it's like. What do you want to make of these games? I think is the question for me. I think that at this point, you know, with the Bucs, I've always been like. We'll see what happens.

The record doesn't bother me at five and three. This loss kind of sucks. They'll look to get back on track against, I believe, the Magic on Saturday. But again, long-term view. I don't know.

What this is going to mean. But then if I look at my own logic, Hey. You gave up two points in the third quarter. Don't know what it means. You gave a game to the Pacers here.

Don't know what it means. And you'll just kind of see as far as how the team's playing. Um I think that I think that they're playing fine. I still, I think I thought they'd be playing better. at this point, with or without Dame.

I thought they'd be playing better. That's just my expectations that I put on it, the excitement of getting Dame. Giannis, when Damon's on the floor, took seven three-pointers last night. Uh on Thursday he took one. I don't know what The rationale is behind that.

Jake says Prunty mismanaged that fourth quarter. Texas Badger says Griffin is a shit coach. and then hits the caps button to say what the fuck is wrong. With this team. Dave says, I'm pissed at Craig still, so I'm going to take it out on Griffin.

Tonight instead. Uh John. They have to trade for a perimeter defender. It's apparent they're playing to score off layups and threes, and no one outside of Giannis can make either. Bobby would be the guy that gets traded in that, right?

If we're going to trade for somebody. Bobby Portis would be like our last remaining guy. That would provide value to a team that someone would want. And Bobby, like the other night, he had that great end of the first quarter, and he's mayor of Milwaukee. and you don't want to trade them.

And I'm sure the bucks are going to have to take a hard look. At that, because it's the same like. You got dame. Are you so if you got dame? That precludes you to maybe not rest on your laurels.

If you got Dame and you see there's an area to improve. Like you already got dame, so now you better. I mean, we're on this path. I don't know. I do have a feeling that they do make a trade.

At some point, I mean, we're again, we're three months out, but I do. have a feeling that uh this team as constructed, will have a new face or two. on it. Al Farouk Aminu for three says, guys, I'm a Blazer fan. I've watched every Bucs game this far.

Coaching is slacking. I think you've come to the right place. I think a lot of people in these chats. Agree with that. And again, it's a young coach.

And I think Griffin made a young mistake tonight. where he felt bad that he didn't have Giannis' back. And then he wanted to show Yadianis' back. And then he got ejected. I think that was an unnecessary ejection.

I don't think the situation called for it. Giannis looked confused. Just back of your head. Like, you don't have to. It's like in sports radio.

You know, I've got these four-hour shows I would do, and I would have this one take that I really wanted to get out there. And if I did a six to 10 show in the morning, I would think. When do I want to use this take? I'm very excited to use this take, but when do I want to use it? I'd say, when are the most people going to be listening?

So I think, ah, 7:30, 7:45, that's when I can hit it. And then we'll get some calls and reaction that can carry us through the morning. I'm not going to go right in at 601 and be like. Rogers is faking as Achilles. No, you gotta make sure the audience is there in the settings right.

Griff, the very first day that he can. See an opening, just like the ref. Just like the ref, the very first chance he could get a technical on Giannis. Good to see the NBA media, especially Stephen A. Smith.

saying he's going to call the league office and put in uh support to that. Q says, what a game. That was wild. Bucks battled back from the first half. Sad waste of Giannis Fifty Burger.

That is always sad. 50-40 night for the Greek freak with 12 boards. Matt says: another thing to remember is that the Bucs are the number one target in the East. Teams want to beat us bad. as they should.

Pacers did that. Tonight. Dave throws in $1.99. To say hi, Dave. Basement Dave?

Zach wants to know how far we are away from a new mic. Oh, yep. We're good. We're good. I I'll take care of that from now on.

Any other money that would be contributed to the stream will now be for Pittsburgh drinking money.

So. I'll probably keep it in your pocket. Jerry said, Yeah, yesterday, Griffin said he was basically going to get tossed. Why why why choreograph that? You made a mistake.

You feel like you made a mistake. I don't know that Griffin had to be. Ejected. Texas Badger says, Why the fuck have a young coach with an experienced team? That's a fair question.

That is a fair question. Adrian Griffin comes into this setting, and when he came here. Dame wasn't here. But it was already going to be a pressure-filled situation. And so I think the Bucs got the guy that they think they wanted.

And I'm not I'm not being out on Griff Guy yet.

Okay. November. But The clock that he has is going to be different than other coaches. And especially because he doesn't have experience.

So if like If, like, Nick Nurse came here, who would want a title and was having a Start where we could criticize it. And he's a veteran, he's coached. Griff's never done that.

So, Griff, like, Has to do well on his first try. And he would get a second job because, you know, once you're in, you get recycled, but. I don't know. I think that it's way too early to be talking about what I just was talking about. But also there are concerns about If he was the right guy, and I don't know the answer to that.

And I think the only way that we're going to know the answer to that. is if they win the championship. Or make the Eastern Conference finals and get fucked in some way, whether it's injury or bad luck. But if Griff doesn't make the Easter Conference finals. I do think his job is up for grabs.

And this is not reactionary. To a loss tonight. This is. Consistent with what I've been saying. The whole time is that his pressure.

is different than anybody else's. Dave says, if only we could trade for a Drew Holiday.

Well, we don't win last night. That'd be true. John, I was thinking Bobby for sure could get traded. I've liked his defense more.

However, Pat and Malik have disappointed me. I don't think it's a conversation right now, but maybe Brooke in the future. I don't know. I mean, we'd have to get somebody back. Brooks still is not being used as a scorer.

Brooke Lopez points by game 13-13 11-6 13-4-14-2. I thought maybe tonight he gets some more buckets. With dame out. And maybe they revert back to kind of how they played a little bit without Dame. 54 for Giannis, 19 for Middleton in 20 minutes.

So his minute usage is up. We'll still see like when he's good good good to go And that's part of the starts of the season also. Malik Beasley, 13 minutes. I still I like Malik Beasley. Campaign was seven points.

Thirteen points for Beasley, I should say. And 11 for Portis off the bench. Not a lot of Andre Jackson, which a lot of people are, it's like that meme where. We're walking with Bochamp, but we're looking back at Andre Jackson. You know?

But we want them both to play. And at least they are playing.

Okay. If this was bud God, who would have got the minutes tonight if this was Bud? Beasley and Payne probably would have played 39.40 instead of 29.30. Bochant might have got five. Coneton would have got thirty for sure.

Jackson would not have played. Beauchamp might have, again, played like five. Robin Lopez would have come in in the first quarter for like two minutes and then not the rest of the game. That was a classic bud move. Here's a guy for three minutes.

And then not the rest. This team will be just fine. That's from Tony Thurston. And I think long-term we agree. And I think that, you know, where I was very excited looking at this team.

When they first got dame, I think that like. This might not make sense, but I think the regular season is going to come harder for the Bucs than the playoffs are. And you might have some teams that coach to the regular season, kind of like the inverse of what we've been. Regular season, the Bucs coast. And then it's playoff time and it's like.

They step on their own dick. At least it wasn't an IST game from Q? Absolutely. This was not a tournament game.

So we only lose a game in the regular season. We did not lose. A game in group play. Wayne says, as great as Giannis is, he has to be smarter in certain situations. Matt says Griff will not be our coach in April.

That's Matt in the falls.

Now, Griff did get kicked out of this game.

So. Are some of the issues about Griff tonight? Griff issues or Joe Prunty issues? That might have been Terry Stotts coaching tonight. When Griff got kicked out.

I think Griff choreographing his ejection and then going through with it. was a dumb move. Rookie dumb, Matt LaFleur-like move. That's what I thought. JR says, Bud won a championship, dude.

Ripping on Bud while watching this team, LOL. I think what I was doing there was I was looking at a box score and I was looking at the minutes played. And then I was thinking about. what the minutes would have been like. If Bud was the coach.

So I was taking the knowledge of how Bud used his rotations and comparing them. To how Griff and Prunty use their rotations tonight. I said the young guys wouldn't play, but other than that. I didn't add too much more commentary to it, and I don't feel like I was ripping on him in any way. Again, what I've learned over the years is that When people have an issue sometimes with what I say.

It's not What I say that was wrong, it's what you heard. And that makes it a U problem. and not a me problem. Justin says, Pacers didn't beat y'all. Bad.

We literally had to shoot 40. Is this a Pacers fan? Yeah, they shot forty percent from three. Justin says, Pacers didn't beat you all bad. We literally had to shoot 40% from three from the team.

40 shots just barely to beat y'all. Giannis, a top three player, I was reminded today. Yeah, don't forget. Don't forget. Top three player.

And we didn't have Dame. But congrats on the win. Six and three for the Pacers. And you got our guy Halliburton. Just up the road from Oshkosh.

So Um Mutual admiration, I hope. We can have. Um Q says 10 minutes to Loki. Loki's already finished. Loki comes out at eight.

Mat9. You can go watch it whenever you want. It's 9 Eastern. We're Central Time. JR says, Buddha.

won a championship. And then all my fault. Yeah, well, I was being a dick, so. As being a dick. All right, so the Bucs win.

Is what I would like to say. They actually did lose. They will play again on Saturday against the Magic. Would I prefer Bud to be the coach now or no? No.

No. Now they needed to move on. They need to move on. Robert says, Gosh, darn, I'm disappointed in the results of this basketball game. That seems condescending to me.

That seems like a Cubs fan that got in here.

Now is making fun of me. I'm on high alert. Cubs fans have infiltrated. They're very scrull-like.

Okay, I don't know where they are. I can only assume. I can only try to make you bleed. Taylor says, love the hat. Yeah, I got this at the Bucks Pro shop.

You can get it there. Hashtag not an ad. I am going to Pittsburgh. I do not think I'll have an audio show out on Monday. But I think I will have one out on Tuesday.

The next live I'll do will be after Bucks Bulls. That will be on Monday. Night. That'll be on Monday night. Ry Guy says this season has felt like a roller coaster already.

I see a bunch of exciting things. Jay, Marjan, Giannis, et cetera. Then they crapped the bed. I'm excited to see Chris when they're full strength. It has been a roller coaster because you get a little taste of it.

Then Chris doesn't play. Dame didn't play tonight. Uh Griff gets fake, ejected.

So, or fake man, at least real ejected, fake man. And we'll wrap things up here tonight with Dave saying F the Cubs. You guys have a great one. We will talk soon. And have a good one.

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