Week 16 NFL Picks with Ryan Horvat

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Good morning, everybody. I thought for this Christmas season, we would do one little bonus Ryan Horvat picks episode. Why not? Yeah.

Ryan Horvat, as you know, is on BETT MGM tonight, and he is a part of the BETTQL network, which- Oh, no. Now that you're back with the company, do you have to do this fucking read? You're not doing the sparky read right now.

Catch him for his West Coast. You're not doing that to me right now, are you? I forget. Now, before you even get into this, first, I'm going to congratulate you in a second. This is a non-Odyssey. This is a non-Odyssey production. Okay. Thank God. Okay. I was like, no, please.

It's like a two-minute spiel. Don't. Can I still take hidden shots at the company if we do these every once in a while, or are you going to be like company man now?

For those out there, hold on. I got a lot of good stories today because I'm proud of you, and congratulations on your new gig. I got you a gift.

I'm going to hold off on that, though. I think you're really going to like what I got you. It's kind of a Christmas present, kind of a, hey, congrats thing, but Bart was such a company- Does it get me drunk or high? What's that? Does it get me drunk and or high? No, no.

Unfortunately not, but it's still cool, and it's something I really think that you'll like, and it has a special meaning. Bart is such an Odyssey, Enercom company man that back in the day when I used to work nights and I would leave my coffee cups out, he actually sent an email to David Fields and the entire company ratting us all out. He's like, Enercom is nice enough to provide us with free coffee.

The least you guys can do is pick up your cups. I did that as a joke. Are we going to go back to those days now that you're- I did that as a joke. No, you didn't. Yeah, I did.

Anyway, sorry, go on though. I would like to remind people that you can stream the NFL on Westwood One for free, sponsored by AutoZone. Do you have to do this one?

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No. Yeah, no, we don't do any of those, unfortunately. Ours is all just like, hey, Nick and Ken will be on Saturday talking about the games, check them out and stuff like that.

Or it's March Madness, pick them. Nothing like that anymore though. Kind of miss those days. I miss some of the old reads. I miss reading the good old like Robert Specialty Meets read. I miss the jewelry ads around the Christmas season.

I miss our people, the fine, fine folks over at... I don't really remember. Rupina. What was that one? The thermometer read that I had to do and it was like 62 seconds long. I don't know.

The number one pediatrician recommended thermometer or whatever. Anyway, hey, in case I don't get to see you for the holiday season, I actually got you a gift for the new show and just for the holidays. And I know you're a big Milwaukee Brewer fan and I didn't want to do this because I hate the team, but I actually ordered you something. I got you a t-shirt actually. And there it is. Am I wearing that right now? Nope.

It's my other yellow shirt. Oh, you already have this one? I gave you that.

Wait, what? I gave you that. No shit.

I just bought this on brewersapparel.com. I got this for you. No, I gave you that. Oh, no, no, no.

I mean, I love this. I was just seeing if you remember that you got me this. I'm actually, I was going to wear this on the show tonight. Anyway, let's get to the NFL picks.

My bad. I'll get you something else then. So how about that Thursday? Do you remember this? Were you here for these days? The 105 7 Milwaukee sports report starts right now from the legends of the field of the SSB sports updates studio. I'm Bart Winkler, legends of the field, legendary memories that last a lifetime. Check out their sports memorabilia in Delafield, Greenfield and Mecwan. First time the fan, the Michael Carter Williams era kicked off last night for the box against his old team in the Sixers.

No, I think I was in like third grade. The Michael Carter Williams era era era era. Okay. Before we get into the pack and yes, classic Thursday night game. I do want to play this voicemail from Tony in Texas. He has a question for me.

And I think the answer, I think I could wait on this till the very end, but I'll just play it. It's a Tony in Texas, 60 seconds. Carl's plays voicemail, Carla vt.com backslash Bart.

Hey Bart, Tony from Texas here. Just want to say this morning's show was really good. Maybe it was, or is an unconscious bias I have, but he's referencing a show.

He was on for like 40 minutes. So okay. But it was good. Oh, you hit all the points. You talked about the box.

You talked about the Packers. We saw Matt's guitars. We talked to Christmas movies, colon roller popped in. I mean, you had it all. You had a smorgasbord of information there. Uh, Bart, let me be the first to congratulate you on your national show. I am very excited for you. It's been a good run doing the podcast.

Hopefully it continues, but you know, congratulations my man, you have been working hard. Here's my question I have for you today. Uh, Celtics warriors. I know you probably watched that game. Hell of a game. One of the products, I think it's the best basketball game I've seen all year in the NBA.

It was very entertaining. Steph Vinchette Steph hit a game winning shot. Uh, Celtics imploded at the end.

Tatum and Brown didn't know what to do. Just chuck it up threes. Um, great game. My question to you Bart is, will there be an NFL game better this weekend?

Will it be better than Celtics warriors? I know NFL is king, but the NFL has been a snooze fest this year. Bart, let me know. And congratulations again, Bart on the, uh, on the national gig.

Talk to you later. So I think the obvious answer for that is the Monday night game. Right? Yeah. Niners Ravens I think will be pretty good. As long as it's not a shitty game. Yeah.

Cowboys dolphins hell like Jags bucks might end up being pretty good. Yeah, I think we'll get a, I think so. I'm not under my phrase. I would always say that the, uh, people would get rewarded for bad behavior. Yeah. I've stole that. You did. Yeah.

I use that all the time about the, uh, nevermind people I worked with. Uh, I think the NFL got rewarded for bad behavior this year because their product has not been as great. Like the actual product has not been as great. You've had a lot of quarterback injuries. You have a lot of bad quarterbacks, but yet last Saturday there were all those games between shit teams that matter. You know, Steelers and Colts mattered. Bengals and Vikings mattered. This weekend's the same thing. You've got all these games between shit teams, but they like matter because there's so many teams still in the playoffs.

So it makes the weekend more exciting, even though the teams suck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I agree. I mean, and I mean, yeah, like these, some of these games, I just feel like are going to be like sneaky games though, too. The problem is, is the quarterbacks. Yeah. Like are terrible man.

And like all of these games, right? Like Cincinnati backup quarterback, Pittsburgh, backup quarterback chargers. You got East and stick going against Buffalo in the beginning of the season. I thought that was going to be a great game. You know, I mean, there's so many backup quarterbacks playing. I don't remember this many backup quarterbacks ever playing in the league.

Do you not at the same time? There's always a bunch of injuries, but usually not at the quarterback position, the way that they protect these guys. It's been a weird season. The NFL has kind of sucked this season. I kind of agree.

I grew with Tony. Uh, college football was great. Like every big game lived up to the hype man, from the red river shootout, you know, to, uh, both Washington, Oregon games, uh, Bama, Texas was great. And the NFL, like all these games, we look up, we like look forward to, they all kind of suck. Uh, you know, last week was pretty good. We'll see. I do think this weekend will be pretty good though. So we had a Thursday night classic, uh, Saturday we've got the bangles and the Steelers bangles are going to be without Jamar chase.

The Steelers are at home. Um, the Steelers are weird because everybody wants to fire Mike Tomlin. There's a, there's a, a thing I kind of stumbled on is that you can have a lot of success, but at some point the failure, how did I phrase this the other night? Like a guy like Mike Tomlin's had a lot of success and his success was getting to, you know, the super bowl, he won a super bowl. And then now, even though he's successful, because he's not, cause he's just not succeeding all the way that becomes an immense failure. So he has never had a losing record. He has consistently gotten this team to the playoffs, but now it's like, well, okay, you're successful, but you can't do this. Le Fleur can win all these games, best record, whatever, but he can't, he can't do that. Andy Reed was like that.

He got to the MSC championship game all the time with Philly, but he couldn't do that. And so I think Tomlin's in this area where it's like the success is almost like, okay, we know what we get and it's successful, but we need more and they're not getting that out of him either way, whatever the spread is. It's Mason Rudolph. If the game was on Christmas Eve or Christmas day, I might go with the Rudolph, the red nose reindeer tie-in, but it's actually on the 23rd.

So whatever the line you have for me is I'm going to take Cincinnati. I tried to use the Rudolph that, that last night, my co-host though, just right over their head. And so I said, Mason Rudolph, my breakdown was I think the same way that Rudolph, the red nose reindeer, had to throw the entire team on his back.

All those idiots. That's the same thing that Mason Rudolph is going to do. He's going to guide that sleigh all the way to a victory and maybe even save Mike Tomlin's job. No, I agree with what you're saying about Tomlin, but like my question is you look at the Steelers this season, like should that team even be seven and seven? You know what I mean?

Kenny Pickett, I don't think is the guy. There's a lot of teams that are like seven and seven. And you're like, no, no, no. They're foreign. They're foreign.

They're foreign 10. Like the Buccaneers. They're that's a five and nine football team. The Colts that's they're a five and 19. How the fuck are they eight and six?

Yeah. I like the Steelers here, man. The Steelers catching points. Tomlin is a dog. Everybody against Tomlin.

He called out the team earlier this week. You go to Mason Rudolph. He's no good, but he's better than Trubisky. Trubisky has actually gotten worse.

It's kind of crazy. Every year he's regressed. The Steelers defense also has been a huge letdown. Like when they actually get pressure, they're pretty good. But when they don't, you could just pick that secondary apart. They've had a bunch of injuries.

Mink has been hurt all season, but I do think that they win this game. So I'll take the Steelers plus two. I hope to get a three though against the Bengals.

I don't think it comes though. I bet it is a Freeman autoplay where uh, frames if the, if it's a divisional game and the home team is an underdog by three or less, he will always without fail take that team and the Steelers would be that team. Same here. That's a good play from frames. He's right on that system play from Horvat as well.

All right. The other game on Saturday, Saturday, Ooh, Bill's 12 point exclusive and just announced they're going commercial free fourth quarter. Oh, they want to, uh, they're copycats. Remember when we had to do that for an entire hour during the pandemic? That was wild.

There's a whole hour of radio. Now we're just do and then one, one hour I ended at 56 and not 58 and I added two minutes of spots cause I had nothing to say. I got yelled at. Yeah, I remember that. That sucked. That was, that was something man. Just another, just another stepping stone on the journey that's gotten me here.

Yeah man. You know, one, one day you're hosting Jim Rome show. Now you got your own show on the same network as Jim Rome. You gotta be like, you need, you need a, you know how da has like the d aliens and Rome has the clones.

You need something though. Well we have a little, the Winkler verse is part of what we have here. Yeah. I don't know if like the national Jerry came up with a great name. Jerry came up with cause he's, he, he refers to the warriors that but Bart after dark. So he abbreviated, he abbreviated it to bad boys. I like that.

The Winkler's the Wink, the Wink, the Winkler's. Yeah. Yeah.

The way we'll, we'll come up with something. So I bet the charger is actually plus 14. I just thought this was an inflated price. I like the over a lot in this game, even at 44 and I still kind of like Easton stick and the chargers not to win the game, but I don't know if they lose by two scores cause Brandon Staley got fired. Now we get the dead cat bounce and maybe they'll actually play hard. Like we're getting an inflated price because they got curbed stomped on national TV, but they went into that game with one goal in mind, right? Get the yoga freak fired and they got them fired.

Only problem with that. My prediction will finally fire that asshole Joe Berry and it'll come Brandon Staley doing his yoga on the 50 yard line. You know, you thought it bad when big Mike was getting happy endings during special teams practice.

Wait till Brandon Staley's and the walking dog, you know, while the defense is getting absolutely cooked, dude. And really quick on that, everybody keeps talking about like Robert Salah. Are we even sure that Robert Salah a would want to be a defensive coordinator ever again? And B does he want to go work for the floor when the floor just fired his brother?

No, I'm sorry. Robert just fired the floor brother. Yeah, he fired. We can't have no Robert Salah and the floor confirmed friends. They're still boys. Well, they were best men.

Yeah, no. I was wondering if maybe there was some beef because he fired his brother to bring in buddy Hackett and then he stole the quarterback. Aaron Rogers, the floor is Fred football man. But everyone's like, Oh, Joe, Joe Berry and Matt Leflore friends.

That's what, no, they're not. They had like no connection or relationship before this. And if, if Matt Leflore is going to defend Joe Berry this way, you think, what do you think he's going to do to a guy? He actually like knows he's going to have an unlimited pass to walk all over him. I don't want I'd rather have Staley than Salah. No, keep Staley away from this team. I'd rather have them than Salah. No, I don't want any of them. I don't want either of these guys.

No, I do want Salah. I don't think he's getting fired. To be honest with you, man. What the fuck was he supposed to do this year with Zach Wilson and Trevor Simeon? And you know, I know you hate Rogers and I don't want to talk about Rogers like at all. I'm so sick of Aaron Rogers, actually like the story needs to fucking die. I'm sick of Aaron Rogers, but I just ask like, what could the jets have done differently?

That's my only question, right? Like I think their hope was if they could get into the playoffs with that defense, Rogers might be back for the playoffs and do they kind of had to go with Zach Wilson because they drafted him number two overall. They couldn't even pay Mike white 4 million for this year.

You know what I mean? They had to let him go to Miami. They didn't want him to go to a divisional fucking opponent. And everybody's like, Oh, they could have traded for Josh Dobbs.

Spoiler alert though. Josh Dobbs fucking sucks. So like what could the jets have done at the quarterback position?

Nothing. They were always fucked. Rogers got hurt. Well, when Rogers restructured, they could have not signed Dalvin cook. They could have not given a contract to Allen Lazard. Like he was. I was just asking you at the quarterback position. Oh, like I don't think there's, I don't, I think Zach Wilson was the best option. As sad as that is. Yeah.

There was a lot of options out there. Who do you like Rogers or the, uh, the bills? Joe flack was available. He's playing pretty good.

That's true. There you go. I like the chargers. I like the bills to win, but it's the first ever regular season peacock game. There's a fourth quarter without commercials.

It's going to be a lot of Chris Collins worth who is the fucking goat. If I may. I mean, this man just loves football. Yeah.

He saw that Lamar Jackson plan Sunday night and his, his breakdown was, Oh boy. Oh God. Oh man.

Oh boy. Like that's great to me. I'm going to take the chargers to cover though. Yeah, me too.

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I don't know if they cover the three and a half now that it's past the key number of three. But I like Detroit here. I'll be I'll be chalky. I'm gonna bet against the lions.

A little bit of a run. They do have the lion or the Vikings, as I mentioned, twice who's sandwiched in between there. Oh, the Cowboys. Oh, that's gonna be a big Saturday night game next week.

Remember the last couple of years the Cowboys have been on like, Saturday night and games that didn't matter? Yeah. Well, that's gonna be a big one.

So I like I like the lines to at least get a dub here. And to cover some with you on Detroit. All right, let's go to we'll save the Packers as we usually do. So we'll go to Cleveland Houston. And I plan on betting Houston they opened his two and a half point favorites, which I thought meant CJ Stroud was going to play in this game. CJ Stroud is not going to play in this game. So it's case Keenum.

So again, home dog on CBS. I was saying it was Davis Mills. Or Davis Mills. Wait, why were you saying Oh, you're right. You're right. I thought it was going to be no last week. Yeah, I thought it was going to be. I was actually surprised. I mean, Davis Mills isn't good, but I thought he's better than case Keenum.

Well, I kept saying it wrong and no one corrected me. I'm gonna bet Houston at three at two and a half though. I like Cleveland. I think this might be like the Bears game last week where Cleveland wins by exactly three. So like if I could get, you know, Cleveland here at two and a half and I could get Houston at three and a half, I might try to middle this beast.

I can't. I mean, I liked Houston with Stroud, but I don't know if I can make the case against this Browns defense. I mean, I guess the home road splits are a little bit different. Like the Browns are a much better team at home and then on the road, but with a backup quarterback, like you just said, man, Joe Flacco is playing good football right now. I mean, he's one of those guys that's just always going to be able to sling it though.

He throws a beautiful ball. So I guess here, my pick for the show, Texans gross. The Browns can keep finding ways to win with Flacco. And I like somebody like that. I like somebody that's steady and reliable and you know, they're going to come through when you need them.

They do exactly what you're hoping for. And so I'm going to give him my happy place and performer of the week, Joe Flacco. When I want to fall asleep, I take a gummy about an hour later. Night night. I took one the other night. I took one the other night and normally I like sit in bed and do some DraftKings lineups. I was so tired. I had, I had to do the DraftKings lineup the next day. I was like, God, fuck.

I'm tired. It was a good thing. They gave me the 50 milligrams. I got to dip into the 50 milligrams of the THC Delta eights promo code Bart. It's good.

25% off each and every order happy place, hemp.com. So I'm going to go with the Browns. I'm going to go with the Browns. Browns. Yeah. Probably the safe pick.

All right. The Toby's are on the road. They are a three point underdogs against the jets. We don't really need to spend a whole lot of time on this game.

I don't think I will take the Toby's the cover three. The jets are shit. Hi. Fuck. Yeah. Well, this game off the map. I don't like that preset came in there and was kicking ass. He looked good.

I know I kind of was rooting for howl because me too. But I don't know, man. I feel like if you're in Washington, especially with a new ownership group and a new coaching staff coming in, most likely you got to check those there. I think it would be the, they're the chargers, right? Because I don't think, I don't think he's going to the chargers at all. See, I mean, I don't, that's, that's why I wonder like if you would be maybe a broadcaster, that's why he did the college game day stuff because the chargers have been a mess defensively, but they have the offense figured out. You also wonder like who's going to be Bella checks, offensive coordinator. Is he going to bring along? Is Josh McDaniel is going to come back and they're a package deal.

I have no idea. I could see it maybe being Washington though. You know, just because you got a new ownership group, you want to make a splash the local ties here, but I wouldn't like it. Like for these young rebuilding teams, I really wouldn't like it. I would like it for the chargers just because I think he could fix that defense and I don't think Justin Herbert needs to be fixed.

I think he needs healthy weapons, but we'll see, man. Um, I think it would be a mess with the commanders though. If Bella chick was in like his fifties, then I could see him. Then I could see him Don draping his way to California. Yeah. But he's 75 or whatever. He's got basically the island of Nantucket is his sanctuary. He fucking moving across the country to play with a chargers team who Eckler is a free agent and sucks.

Their wide receivers are both old 30 million bucks. Someone's getting cut. Herbert. That's it.

He's the only piece. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. It's a good question.

It's a good question. I think the best options were the bills and the jets. They've rallied around fucking McDermott. Yeah, I know.

Yeah. The jets. That would be really interesting, especially with Aaron Rogers. See, the thing is though, Robert, you're going to have to trade a pick. I don't think anybody's trading. That's why it hurts. That's why it hurts.

You know what I mean? Like maybe it's a second round Carolina Carolina. Are they going to trade a quarterback for a coach? That would be so stupid.

They need so much on that team. All right. Well anyway, we'll get to them in a second. I like a fuck. I have to pick. I actually have to pick. I have to make a pick. I'm going to pick the jets.

All right. Go jets. Colts. One point dogs. Here's one of my favorite bets of the weekend.

I like Atlanta. They're going to Heineke. I don't know if you saw his press conference yesterday. He was wearing a Bush light hoodie and they asked him why. And he said, cause last year on the team flight when he was with the commanders, he was pounding Bush lights and he got fined by the league. Cause I guess you're only allowed to drink bud lights and he's a Bush light guy. I think it tastes like watered down piss, but to each their own, like all my buddies drink Bush light. That's what we drink in high school. We would do what we called fishing, go to the liquor store, wait for the most desperate person looking and say, Hey, here's an extra five bucks. Get yourself a 40 and we want a, you know, a 30 pack or, you know, two thirties of Bush light.

Anyway, though, I thought that was a pretty cool story. Atlanta goes back home. Desmond Ritter. I'm actually kind of surprised he's getting benched cause he's a little bit better at home. I like Atlanta with their season on the line to beat the cold.

It's one of my favorite bets this weekend through the dirty bird. Well, I just can't trust Arthur Smith. I think he's terrible.

He is. So I'm going to take the Colts on that one reason alone. Your stories were great. Your rationale was great. I feel like you do a good job of picking the spots where a guy like me would take the Colts, but you see Atlanta. I feel like you, you have like a sixth sense in that, but Arthur Smith, I am not, I'm not picking him.

That's fair. Cause he's, he's bad, man. He's got to go next year too. He's got to be gone.

Him and Joe Berry could be working together at a, I don't even know. All right. Seattle, Tennessee, the Seahawks, two and a half point road favorites. Is this the Titan special? I actually have to take Seattle. Seems like a trap. Gino's back. Emotional win with Drew Locke. Maybe Drew Locke should be the guy. I just, I can't do it with Tennessee this year. Levis, I know he throws like a decent deep ball and he's won some games, but they've all been like lucky ass games that they've won. I, I got to go Seattle. It seems like a trap. Give me this, give me the Seahawks. Here's what I can't bet though.

But I do like the Seahawks. So once again, Lisa Salter's doing this interview where I commend her. She did. It's not like she even asked like the one question to unlock. It's just, she kept, she kept them there with Gina last year.

Gino didn't give that answer right away that I right back until like the third question. And when drew Locke, it looked like he was going to do one question and leave and then she kept them there and got more out of them. And like, I almost started crying. Drew Locke was making me emotional, dude. He like really thought he didn't have it anymore. Yeah.

And him and Gino are buddies. See how good it is when you support people, even when you have the same job. I like the Seahawks to win. Me too. Me too. I think that was a big motivational, like without Russell Wilson, they are completely, I hated them more than anything. But now, well, I mean, we hated the league. I almost bought that blue.

I almost bought that blue sweatshirt. Yeah. I mean like, you know, we weren't Richard show. There was a tough team to like at the time, unless you were a Seattle Seahawks fan. Cause I mean, they beat us a lot, beat us in the playoffs, beat us in the Falmeri. So yeah, like why I, I still hate the Seahawks and fuck Pete Carroll to the death, to be honest with you as a Notre Dame fan and as a Packer fan, Pete Carroll, fuck you, you old piece of shit. That's me.

It's Christmas season. He did ruin an entire year of my life though. Yeah. Oh, they've scarred me forever. Yeah.

Bush Bush, one year. And then the whole NFC championship game. So yeah, I can't come around on Seattle. Sorry, dude.

I can come around though on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at home. One point favorites against the Jags hot take Baker Mayfield right now is playing better football than Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence looks like shit. Baker Mayfield was Trevor Lawrence's stats. Did you see that tweet Lawrence's stats through like the first 40 games or whatever, like Daniel Jones?

Yeah, dude, I don't. And he's due up. Are you giving him like, I keep asking this on the show and like my co-hosts are like, Oh, it's Trevor Lawrence.

You got to give him all the money. And I'm like, do you, are you, are we sure Trevor? I'm not sold on Trevor Lawrence. He does get more of a benefit of a doubt. Like he's, Purdy's playing better than him, but more, everyone would take Lawrence over Purdy. It's like, it's always excuses. And I mean like the last eight weeks of the season last year, he was good, but I mean, even in the playoff game duty through four picks in the first half, I mean, I just like that football IQ stuff, the end of the half where they don't even get a field goal last week. He just seems like he seems like the dude, like in the movies that like goes to class, like in his shoulder pads, you know, like in Daria, like the boyfriend that's just like, dude, like, I don't know man.

I mean, he's got, yeah, I don't know. I'm going to take the box here. Um, I am going to take Jacksonville to bounce back. Tampa's no good. We gave them that. They're going to have the same come down that happened with Tommy DeVito.

I don't know. I think Baker Mayfield's a little bit better than Tommy DeVito, but noted. All right, let's get to a couple of these shitty games so we could get to the good ones.

All right. Bears are four point favorites against Arizona. Everybody likes Arizona in this spot. I actually liked the Bears in Chicago to bounce back. I think they're going to play well down the stretch.

Ibra flu's coaching for his job. They covered for me against the Browns. So I'm cool with them losing that game. Justin Fields actually should have thrown a game winning touchdown pass. Fucking Mooney doesn't even have the courtesy just to let that thing. He bounces it up in the air so that he gets an interception on his record. Defense for Chicago though, top 10 all of a sudden. So that's why I don't understand how you fire Ibra flu. He's in charge of the defense. You could fire get see Luke get see, give me the bears though.

Minus four. I want to take the bears. And so I will, I think that they could have had a nice run. I, I like that the locker room is like rallying around fields now. And even if they do make the decision to move on from fields, it will piss a lot of people off.

Yeah. I still think fields is good. So if the Packers had Justin Fields, I'd say, let's keep riding fields.

Maybe you can back up Jordan love their toys. Fields is going to be good somewhere. Atlanta.

But he will go somewhere and be good. My only like, the only thing is like, if you're Atlanta, you know, or some of these teams, do you draft Michael Pennix or Jayden Daniels and get him on the cheap on a rookie deal? Or do you take fields?

That's the problem. Even if, even if you know fields, like if you rate it out of a hundred, let's say you rate it out of a hundred and fields to you as an 88, at what point is that better than the money? Cause if, if like Caleb is an 83 and Drake's an 83, that's only five points different. So you take the cheaper guy. What if you think they're like a 78, like in terms of the percentage that you think they are, the scale can be whatever you think.

Where's the cutoff where you stay with the guy. If you assume fields is better. If you like fields, it almost seems like yeah, you have to go with the cheaper guy is the thing that they're going to come into. And Justin Fields is going to start, he's going to play good down the stretches. He has been, and it's not going to matter because the Panthers gave him that pick and he can't even like play for his job.

It's really messed up. Yeah. I just think if you're the bears and if you're Ryan pulls and you really don't have attachment to Justin Fields, you have to take Caleb Williams too, because if he ends up being Mahomes and you passed on fucking Mahomes and then Caleb Williams and for Trabiscuit and fields, that's a bad look and you might be, you know what I mean? You might, you might be working wherever it is. Ryan pace is working right now.

So that would be my concern right there. Yeah. I don't really have a breakdown cause I don't know how it happens, but new England is going to beat Denver. So plus six and a half Patriots and money line. Everybody like loves Denver now. Told you whore about Sean Payton still has it. New Bella checks going to fucking teabag them. You know it too.

New England is going to win this game, man. Or just get like Bella check Bella check, like like Sean Payton, I feel. So that gives him more incentive to just completely embarrass. Yeah. Like if he doesn't like a guy, he's probably like my, just take my foot off the gas. But if he's like buddies with a guy, you know, and I get that, like I love Bella check. Would you fire the floor for bill Bella check? No. Yeah, you would.

I don't want 20, 20 story would bill Bella check. I think you do though. I want to neither.

All right. Vegas 10 point dogs against the chiefs. This one's tough, dude. I feel like the chiefs probably win by exactly 10 and it's a push. I'll just take the chiefs to bounce back. I think they're taking pushes. I wish you could bet pushes.

I always try to middle these things. I'll take the chiefs here. I don't really mean chiefs are fine. Everybody's like, I'll freak it out about their offense and shit.

There's still like top 10 and all efficiency numbers. My homes is the new, like, you know, like Rogers Brady where the wind like 11, 12 games and have like really good years, but they won't win MVP. And everybody will be like, Oh, what's wrong with Brady? What's wrong with Rogers? What's wrong with my homes this year? Well, he's throwing to Rishi rice fucking sky more MVS, the same way that Brady for a couple of seasons was thrown to Chris Hogan and you know, some of these guys, Rogers was thrown to the common, the common denominator.

I'm realizing when offenses that were once like torch start to struggle is MVS. Yeah, he's having a bigger role. He's bad.

But he is bad. And actually I'm not sure I liked the triple header on Christmas ever too. I don't like this triple header on Christmas.

Me either on a Monday. I'll tell you know what, because it's Christmas and it's going to be, well, it's not going to be as cold. If this was 35 degrees or below, I can take the chiefs cause I don't like those Raiders whites in the cold. Yeah. The jerseys. Oh geez. Uh, I'm going to take the Raiders to cover the 10. The Raiders. All right.

Uh, I actually forgot about the biggest one on Christmas Eve. So let's do this actually. Let's go. Uh, Dallas is a one point dog. So this game is a pick. I like Dallas to finally win a big road game to bounce back. They had the flu last week. That's why they played like shit against Buffalo. Miami is going to be without their starting center. Who's one of the best for the entire season now.

And Tyree kills dinged up and yeah. Give me the Cowboys here to bounce back. I like big Mike and the Cowboys. You know, you know, it's at this point in the year that big Mike needs one of these like where he brings in like soupy sales or some fucking comedian from yesteryear. I think soupy has left us years ago. Um, yeah, I like big Mike and the boys on the ride.

Do I like big Mike on the boys? They got embarrassed that they, you don't, Hey, fool me once. You know, shame on you. Fool me once again.

Fool me again. Not with these Cowboys. Not with my cowboys. Yeah.

Give me the job. All right. Let's roll on with, uh, all right. So we'll bounce the Eagles. 12 point favorites over the giants.

Hmm. Eagles are fine. Eagles are fine. Eagles had a playoff schedule in the middle of their season.

They just went Dallas chiefs, bills, Niners, Dallas Seahawks. They lost three in a row. I remember when the Niners lost three in a row and everyone's like, Oh, they're fine. And then the Eagles lost three in the row and everyone's like, what? They're fine. Eagles are fine. I need a big Hertz and AJ Brown week, a little Goddard too, and guillotine league. So they're going to come through for me. Yeah. I like the Eagles here to bounce back to, I think they're going to beat the shit out of DeVito and the giants at home.

I'm going to take the Ravens plus four and a half. He's trying to, he's trying to, you know, get the, what is it called when you copyright the, the, the passing Paisano and the Tommy cutlets. Here's a, here's a, here's something he should copyright. The he's nuts. Yeah. The fucking massacred mozzarella.

I like how when they were sacking them, they were doing it though to him. I like it. He's going to get beat up out in Philly.

That crowd's going to be all Italian. I can say that I'm sticking with my boy Lamar and the Ravens. I think they're going to beat the Niners outright. I think the books are going to need the Niners.

I think everybody's going to bet the Niners best team in football. And I think Lamar is going to show the world who the real motherfucking MVP is. It isn't Bob Purdy throwing to the best weapons on the planet. It's Lamar. Who's been carrying the Ravens for the last couple of years. You know why Lamar is the MVP bar? Here's my Lamar argument. Every year, the last three years, Baltimore has been the number one seed in the AFC. Then what's happened. Lamar has gotten hurt. This year Lamar ain't hurt. And who's the number one seed in the AFC right now. So are you with me?

Because I think here's what happened a long time ago. They wanted to determine, Hey, we should have given award to the best player. And they call it the most valuable player, but they still treat it like who's the best player. But if you're going to do that, you have to name the award. Who's the best player award. If you name it MVP and put the V for valuable, then I want to know who is the most valuable player in the league. You're telling me who's the most valuable. And if you're saying, well, it could be McCaffrey and it could be Purdy.

Well then guess what? It ain't neither of them. It's Lamar.

It's Lamar. If you want to say Purdy is the best player, or you think he deserves an award, but if you want to tell me who the most valuable players, like I think Tyreke's odd should have skyrocketed. Cause when he left the game, they lost. I think, I think even Aaron Rogers is in consideration. What about McCaffrey?

You can't step without him. It's true. But that's what I'm saying. Like in Lamar, man. Team remaining 2 and 14 should have won it.

Yeah. I mean, Lamar it's year one, new offense, Todd Munkin calling plays, you know, OBJ hadn't played football in a year. And now he's starting to finally look like himself.

He had some young guys, Mark Andrews got hurt, his number one option. And like, he's still balling and they should be undefeated. There are a couple of plays away from being an undefeated football team, point differential, number one quarters, first through three outside the top 25 and quarter four, they got to learn how to close out games.

But I think they do that against the Niners. Who you, who you going with here? I'm going with the Ravens and Lamar is going to win this game and he's going to win MVP. Fuck yeah. I got that plus 800. You can still bet that right now.

Plus 600, if you want to roll with us over at bed MGM, the King of sports books. All right, let's get to the Packers. My breakdown is if they don't win this fucking game against the Carolina Panthers, I can't watch the rest of the season. This Panthers team. And I like Bryce and I bet the Panthers every week.

They've they've made me, they made me money last week. I had them on the money line, but they need a whole new coaching staff to figure out what, what to do with Bryce, how to get the most out of them. Cause I think he could play, dude. I mean, we did this with guys.

I mean, you know, I think he'll be fine, but Carolina sucks. You know, if you watch the red zone channel, you probably have seen them like six times this season. Cause they barely ever crossed the 50 yard line. I like green Bay to cover the five and a half. I bet them last week against the bucks. It was a big mistake.

I did it last minute. I said, I was going to take the bucks said I couldn't do it. Had to bet the, but the boys not going to bet the Packers, but if I had to, I did bet the over in this game over 35 and a half. I think we get some points. I'm going to pick the Packers to bounce back. Bright is not going to cut up the Packers defense. I know, I know, I know everything about Joe Berry, but Bryce Young is not, it's not happened. The Packers are going to win.

They're going to win by several points, possibly even many. Is my internet shit? A little bit. I don't know what to do.

Well, it doesn't matter anymore because now you're moving over to the big time. You're going to be in the CBS studios. Yeah. But if I want to build something in my basement, I can't be on CBS with this internet.

Although sometimes I listen to these, like before I get in on Saturdays, they play countdown too. And it's like one guy's doing it on a tin can. I swear to God.

Who JB sports brief? No. Oh, uh, grant, grant Paulson does the show.

And then the guy that's on the show with them is like on the other side of an office. Yeah. Yeah.

There's some get a microphone. All right. Well, Hey dude, good luck with the new endeavor.

Is that what we say? And maybe I'll see around the building here on the East coast. Cause you're moving to New York, right? So I'll see you here on the East coast. You're going to be at East coast. I got to figure out what town I want to live in. Uh, we might be one of those families that lives in Connecticut. There you go.

You could come live in Bethesda with me and Scott van Pelt. Funny enough, my wife today, uh, sent me a text message at nine 13. I don't like any of these shows. I don't like any broadcasters other than you and Gelb only show I have to watch. And I DVR it is SVP and he lives down the street, but I never get to see him.

And my wife texts me today and she said, SVP ordered to watch for pickup here. Maybe you can run into him on the street. So I might just go like pop in, you know, Hey Scott, can you hire me please? I just want to be your new to Silo man. Get me away from these freaks.

How do I reach these genes? So you live right by him? Yeah, but he lives. I don't ever see him though. And we work at a similar schedules.

Cause we both, we both worked the late nights. Has he ever tried to get McDonald's and then wound up in an army base? No, that's me though, dude. That was the craziest shit ever.

Just guys with machine guns. And the worst part about it, like I told you was my license was fucking suspended and I didn't even realize. I didn't realize when I turned, however, whatever birthday that was 35 or whatever.

Yeah. I had to go get my license again. I just, I didn't pay attention. And so then when I give them the ID, they're like, this is expired. And I'm like, Oh shit, it is.

No, no, that's not even what happened. That's the last time I got pulled over by the police and I got a ticket. I didn't have my wallet or anything on me. And so I didn't have any identification and they were looking at me like I was like ISIS. They're like, how do you not have a driver's license on you?

And I'm like, cause I didn't, I thought I was going to get a fucking Baconator. You know, I didn't think I was entering the movie Congo. Anyway. Good luck. I'll see you around. Yeah. The next podcast episode will be sometime in 2024.

I don't know when, so stay tuned. Yeah. You're just me.

I worked the same ship, brother. You ain't going to be, you're going to be sleeping until about three new new. It's a new day.

Yes it is. I was like, Oh, I'm going to get all this stuff done during the day. Yeah.

Right, man. I feel like a zombie until like 4 PM around here. Like look at my eyes. I look like I'm on heroin right now.

Anyway. I've had a lot of people. I've had a lot of people. The reactions have been like very similar. People that listen to the pod reached out and say, Hey, congrats.

Are you still doing the pod? Friends are like, Hey, just congrats, man. And then people in the radio business are like, Hey, congrats, dude. Brutal fucking hours.

But congrats. I'm like, no, I want these hours. Yeah. I mean, yeah, exactly. Have you taken any shots?

I want 10 to noon in the middle of the day. Okay. I mean, fucking Jim Rome's sitting there guy. Have you been the better man or have you delivered any shots to your boys like KB and KP and all those guys, the guys that said something about you being in the basement? I saw when you, when you tweeted it out, a lot of people like me, they're like, don't take the high road bar. You tell those mother efforts that you're national. Now, are you going to do that? Are you going to be like, Nope, I'm just going to be the bigger man here.

Well, if I say it out loud. Yeah. You know what you should do? You ever seen a Jay and silent Bob?

Like where they just, anybody that like critique them, they just buy point tickets and they just go to their house and they hit them with a sock full of quarters. That's what you should do. You should, uh, I would feel like if, and I, I mean this one sincerity. Good question. I don't feel the need. I had to do the Larry King thing here and make it uncomfortable. I have to ask the tough questions cause nobody else in Wisconsin does. We find that out with the Packers beat.

We got Shneidman telling us Jair is going to be out there and yay. Had to sneak. Yeah. He got away with that.

No one costs. Do you want the answer Larry or not? Yeah, sorry.

I had to make this about me. Um, I honestly don't feel any itch to take any sort of anything. You think that I would, but I don't. And I feel like if I did start delivering shots, it would diminish. The shots already been delivered is what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Plus like, you know, kind of makes you look like an asshole. Not to us. We all get a kick out of it, but like, you know, the higher ups are probably, they don't, they don't need to hear you. They don't want to see you given the, the suck at sign to, you know, some schmucks.

So good for you. They'd be like, Hey, did we just give this guy a national job? And now he's like trying to make someone's life in Wausau living hell. Yeah.

It's still got to feel pretty awesome though. You know what I mean? Like when people were trying to tell Kanye West that he couldn't wrap, that he was just a producer, he did a whole song last call and he says, I'd like to propose a toast. I said toast. I forgot we canceled Kanye. It's kind of like when, uh, you know, they wrote off Geno Smith.

He didn't write back. You know, I watch, I watch all these other guys out there. I wondered if I could even do it anymore. I wondered if I could even do it anymore. And then I got in a little bit that last game and I thought maybe I still have a little bit of this and I just got to thank the guys.

Like I think everyone that's joy and all the sponsors. Oh, that's why you were talking about that fucking shit that I didn't care about where you were like, Oh, I was so proud of Drew. I was so happy for drew lock.

Cause he was like, I was like, I don't care about drew lock. And then now it all makes sense. You were putting it.

It was like your redemption. Come back story. All right. I get it.

I get it. All right, man. We'll all see you around. Take care. Hey, have a good time. If I die on my plane in the plane, if my plan is going to be here. Yeah. Can I say my, yeah. If my plane crashes, uh, maybe I won't. So have a good Christmas.

Everybody out there in the Bart universe, all the, uh, all the Twinklers, all the Winklers, the Twinklers, the Twinklers, all it took was two hours of sleep for me to come up with something good. Finally, are you bringing him? Are you bringing Tim with you? If I, if I brought you with me today would have to move to New York to do the job.

Not me. You'd be like, I see these like guys Gelb has on. It's like coming up tonight. It's Tony Romo and McCaffrey and then Ryan Horvai, you know, you get timid to be like coming up tonight. We got Tim Allen, you know, not, not, uh, the tool, man. Uh, he'd be trying to get ahold of Emmett Smith. Are you going to get those same kind of guests at 10 at night?

That's what I was wondering. Yeah. You got, you should, you should make some demands though. You know, you only want red Skittles in the building and you need Tim, you need Tim with you actually fucked him.

Bring me with you. I need a new job. We're producers. It's David Shepherd. Oh shit.

Money. I know him. Can I tell you something?

Can I tell you something? Uh, like radio? Yeah. The way I look at it, I've been doing morning shows up my whole life. And in morning shows I prep a lot cause you got to come up with all the content these nighttime show. I can just be like, I could really just stroll in at nine and be like, all right, what's happening? Let's talk about it.

I don't feel like I got to do any prep at all. Yeah. You should come up with like, you should make it original man. Like what I always liked about da show when he was on at nights was there was like a theme, right?

Like he beams you up into his little like, you know, UFO type thing and he's got his d aliens, but they would always have like bits. It was like funny. It wasn't, but he would like get to the, you know, you get the sports, but uh, yeah, I don't know. It's pretty cool that you just have like the freedom to do whatever you want.

I miss that a little bit. Not that I don't love, uh, you know, my job and whatnot, but it's a studio show where everything is preplanned. So, you know, at nine 20 I probably don't care about Draymond Green. I got to talk about Draymond Green.

If anything, here's a hot take. I love Draymond Green, right? Like Draymond Green isn't in the NBA. If he's not the kind of guy that'll choke a motherfucker, right?

He's not Steph Curry, John Moran, right? He's 20 years ago. We glorify these. We still do.

You know, it's always like, Oh, the bronze, a pussy. Imagine if he ran into bill and beer. First things first, LeBron would beat the shit out of bill and beer. Second thing. Second now all of a sudden like Draymond people take this stuff way too over the top. He should be in jail jail. Like you see the same shit at like, you know, the park district on a Sunday.

So I don't know. I'm team Draymond. There's open up your show with that take on CBS. Be like, I love Draymond, you know, whatever happened to get in your shoes, coat and your ass whooped like, or whatever Eminem said. That's like, people are saying like Steve Kerr should have done more. What should he have done?

This is exactly what you want from Draymond. Oh, he's quick to talk about guns. Uh, anyway, that's when you know it's probably time. You're not talking about the weapon that you deploy every night, Steve. He's gonna, he's gonna kill somebody out there. It's like, he's not okay. I promise you he's not.

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