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Indeed.com slash BlueWire, terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? You need Indeed. Good morning, everybody. I am Bart Winkler, although we are officially releasing this on a Wednesday afternoon. Good afternoon, everybody. And it's a little bit of a make good because I did not do my Tuesday live show. As I say, every Tuesday I'll do a live show and then the second Tuesday I say, nah, fam.
But there was a cavalcade of things, including cavalcade. Yeah, including Paul and my grandpa's are here, ladies and gentlemen. Hi, Bart. Hi, Paul.
Hello. And it was a cavalcade of things, including but not limited to no daycare services for the Tuesday. I know a lot of people griped about that. I think that the weather people mainly did get it right. They told you in Wisconsin afternoon storms. That's when the bulk of the snow hit over towards the lake. I never needed to get the snowblower out. I went outside to do it and there was no snow on my driveway because of the shift or whatever. And I got like the house blocks and so whatever. But I was happy about that. I'm trying to, I just bought a new snowblower. I doubled up in size.
Some might even say triple if you look at it. And my goal is to not use it. I don't ever want to use it ever in my life. I hate snow more and more with a passion as I get older. I never thought I'd be that way.
And you know, with your kid, it's like, oh, you got a kid here and it's so majestic and now he gets to see this. I don't like it. I briefly told this story from a national perspective, but I wanted to tell you guys specifically.
Hashtag hashtag from a national perspective. Yep. Very well done. So there's this, there's this park off of school that I've slept on with him before, but the Hill's not that big. And so the snow needs to be good for you to get some good traction. And we went this weekend when it was like packy and I didn't realize it was still wet.
I didn't realize it'd be that bad. So we got there, the sledding wasn't working. So there's a playground.
So we thought we'd play on that a little bit. And I went from real stupid to figuring out the situation. Every time he got closer to the moment of impact, which was, he went down a slide that was wet, wearing snow pants and the slide twists. And so as he's at the top, I think, oh, he's going to fly right off of this thing. And I have that thought right when he starts coming down and he torpedoes off of it.
And so there's a turn and the turn is like kind of forehead height of me. And I'm thinking, oh shit. And then like, I, I was able to softly guide. I didn't, I didn't catch them, but I was able to softly guide them down. And then I wasn't, we weren't, I said, we're not telling mommy this. I got home and immediately told my wife, I was going to say, we'll just tell the Winkler verse who needs to tell mom when you can tell the Winkler verse he fell off a slide.
I have some battle scars under my hair from my childhood of falling off slides twice. So Hey, it's okay. Neither one of you guys like snow at all.
Grant, I'm just going to answer your question by saying 13 years ago. I think that's a difference in our age. I would have said like, it's fine.
Why do people complain? And I had a moment this morning where I said, when it's possible, like in the future, like the whole snowboard snowboard thing, just like Bart's parents did, I'm fucking out of here. Like I'm not doing this forever. I'm not doing snow forever.
It's not, it's not meant to be this way. If I could like Microsoft paint and adjust the grass and the trees. And so you could get the beauty of a winter. Yes. But keep all pavement and roads and sidewalks and driveways clear. Yes. I would do that. Mm hmm.
I just I added there's something and maybe I'm an alpha and you guys aren't or maybe it's just clearly that isn't that is in fact, yes. There's something about tackling the outside world. Yesterday is I go to work. I leave early. I've prepared I have hat and gloves in the backseat. I have boots. I have a shovel in the trunk.
Like I'm ready to go. Mm hmm. I don't know.
But you are you are not you're an outdoorsman. Like that's, that's you. Yeah. No, I mean, but again, I would not have I did not feel this way. I did not feel this way in my 20s. Like I didn't. Well, give it a couple more years.
We'll never we'll never it'll go from rarely getting snowed and we'll never have snow. So it'll be well, I think like where I was at that age was the landlord hires a guy to move all your shit. Yeah.
Yeah, right. He needs land and a man needs to tend to his land. This is something that should be inherently you're both homeowners, you should have this in you. Yeah, but I'm a city homeowner, which means I got very, very little land, which means it's not a lot of work. But it's still your work. It's still your land. That's what says the guy who doesn't have to take care of his.
You know what, so my last two living situations about apartments, but three living situations ago, and this is the address that's on my Packers stock certificate, this house will always very near and dear to me on the south side, right by Snuffy's part. Um, there was a yard to mow and shoveling to be done. And, you know, I groaned about it.
I did. But I think it's important for a man to tend to his land into the space around him. I think it's healthy.
I'm a big I'm a big fan of calling people and paying them to do it for me. Hey, that's fine. Again, that was not true before kids. Let's just be so like, after that, like, I don't have any, it becomes the kid's job. You don't make them yet. Eventually.
I think Bart Bart's kid and my kids are too young. But one day, yes. Yeah. You asked about St. Nick's day. You know what I used to get every St. Nick's day leaning on the railing in our entry by stocking. I got a shovel. That's what I got as a gift. I got a snow shovel. It was my size.
That's what I got. So St. Nick, he knew what your situation was. Something to think about. Anyways, I didn't mean to derail the show. I just, yeah, I enjoy your sidebars. Yeah. Talking about that.
Um, I do later in this program, I do want to have a quick non spoiler review of echo, the new Marvel TV series. So stick around for that. I also want to shout out the sponsor of the which is Tupelo honey. And we already threw a great happy place M deal at you this week where because green Bay had nine wins, 25% plus nine promo code Bort gets you 34% off.
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Tupelo honey cafe.com. With that being said, um, again, the next show from this will be a live show on Friday, as long as daycare is in action. And that will give us proper time to talk more about Packers Cowboys, but specifically to review the bucks. 15 point loss to the Celtics. Uh, that is not happening yet.
It was only 15. All right. The game is not having him, but I mean, it is trending. It is trending to be a very awful Thursday night with everything that's happened with the bucks. Anyway, uh, Paul as the quiz master, take it from there.
I do know it's Packers week, but we are going to have a bucks question and I think a really, really important one. I think you can start there. I think we can do it. That's all right.
Even on pattern. All right, let's do it. Yeah.
And then we'll take a little a pivot and then, you know, I'll do the fucking shit I do. Okay. Uh, I definitely knew the answer to this question two, three, four, five, six weeks ago for Bart.
I definitely knew the answer to this. I'm not sure I know the answer now. And grant, I don't have any clue, but Bart had such a strong opinion previously.
I'm wondering if it changed wildcard. There is something wrong with this season's bucks and it's time to address it either via the coaching staff or the roster or I'll say it again. There was something wrong with this season's bucks and it's time to address it or, well, let me quote, and yes, you can take that in multiple directions and big trade, small trade, fire the coach, trade him for Darwin ham. I don't know, but take it as you want. Let me, uh, quote the great American songwriter rehire bud. I've seen that. Go ahead.
Uh, Dido. Ah, cheers gun cold, but I will go down with the ship. I won't put my hands up and surrender.
There will be no white flag above my door. I'm in love and always will be the ship being, I think the bucks as constructed roster and coach. I think this team is capable of winning a championship. I think they are at this point in time.
That is a very hot take. Now they will probably make some trades. They do need to address some of the defensive, uh, problems. Something's wrong with Dame. I, I, something's, I think his personal life is creeping in, man.
Yeah. You see his post, like, I mean, and like he's sad, like, you know, he's, he's going through it. He's going through it in a new city, you know, different people to lean on. I don't think he's, I don't think he's upset about being in Milwaukee. I don't think he's upset about acquiescing to Giannis. I mean, that kind of stuff is, is crazy. He's posted about how he doesn't see his kids every day.
And that's not what dads want. I don't think they knew. I don't think, I don't think, uh, they need a new head coach. I think they can get it done with this one. I still think if there's going to be any pivot from the coach, it can happen as late as mid March. Um, you think you can make a mid March head coaching change and be okay. Yeah.
I think you can net use this thing. Oh, I don't think it's okay. Keep going.
Well, we're going to hide. What are you going to promote? Prunty?
You can do that April 9th, if you want. No, you, no, you would not promote Prunty. And now here's, here's the inherent, here's an inherent problem with Terry Stott's makes his comeback. Well, let me just, let me just be completely honest with you. I think that I've always tried to be honest at the beginning of this whole Griffin thing.
And I still 10 days in all this talk about firing Griffin. I mean, I understand that people really wanted to have that take and be first, but they did it at a real weird time. If, if there was a winning streak, if you would've, if, if those people would've just waited until now, then then it's a whole different discussion.
But because these people are con 14 Henning because these people had to do it as soon as they did it, I will forever say, I'm like, I'm not, I now I'm rooting for it now. Like I'm mad and I don't ever want them to be justified or vindicated. And so, and normally as a bucks fan, like as a bucks fan, I wanted a title very badly and we got one. And then as a bucks fan, I don't, it's not even that I want to win anymore.
It really isn't. It's that I don't want to lose to the Celtics or lose to the Sixers or lose to the heat. I don't want bill Simmons to talk about my team. I don't want like that.
It's, it's more about what I don't want to have it now. The calls in the house now, I like, I want the bucks fan. I want the bucks to win in title, a title in spite of the bucks fans. And, and so it's like, I can't, but can I ask, but do you, do you, all personal, all of that aside, you legitimately think that they can like, have you actually, is it, is it blind hope?
Is it blind faith? Because I think, I think they can, I think that this team can figure it out with the roster, with the coach. I think they can. I think there's, I think there's a way that they can do it. And if you play it out, I'm not, I don't think that they actually will, but I think they can, but I don't, I don't know that they actually will.
And I don't know why this is like this with me. You know, if the Packers would have lost to the bears, it would have been awful. And it's fun. You know, it would have been really awful, but still the team that I take the most personal is the bucks. And I don't know if that's the nature of NBA or if it's the nature of, you know, how crazy we act towards every single, I mean, there's Packer games, there's 17 of them where we, and we create, we go crazy, but we had, we had less psychotic after some of those games than after one out of 82 bucks games. I think it's because there's 82 chances for people to blow things out of proportion and Packers is only 17 chances.
I think if there were 82 chances for people to be irrational, they would, it would seem the same, but I think because there's so fewer opportunities, you know what I mean? Like I, I hear what you're saying, but like it's that three nights a week, you're having to see win or lose. You're having to read about angry bucks, fam, and why this isn't going to work.
So you're doubling down, even though you don't necessarily believe what you're saying, you're doubling down grant. There's something wrong with this season's bucks and it's time to address it either via the coaching staff or the roster. Or there is something wrong with this bucks team and John Horst.
I know the move that he can make to fix it. And I don't need to be NBA trade machine. I don't even need the NBA trade machine for this. In fact, I, you know, the bucks don't have a lot of resources to make roster additions.
They don't need any resources. This is independent from the salary cap or draft capital. What John Horst needs to do is go to a hardware store and buy a massive mirror and bring it back and set it on the floor of the locker room and have all of his players just look into it because I have yet to California. Yes. I have yet to watch a bucks game, at least one that comes to mind that was against a remotely comparable team with remotely comparable expectations and a somewhat talented roster.
I've yet to watch an actual bucks game this year where the bucks look as, or more excited to play basketball than their opponent. So like I understand. Okay. So maybe you guys don't really vibe with Adrian Griffin.
I mean, that's kind of tough because this is the guy that reportedly Yanis wanted and others wanted to. Okay. But you don't love your coach.
Do you take any pride in, in what you're putting on tape every night? Like, are you going back and watching this? And are you okay with that? Cause I guess if you're okay with always being slow to get back on defense and always being a step behind on rebounding and always having less juice than your opponent, I guess if these players were okay with that, then this is, then it doesn't matter what happens. It doesn't matter what they do with the coach. It doesn't matter what they do with the roster. Then, then this becomes about how much these players really want this and want to make it work. That's the issue that I see most of the time.
Yeah. Griffin can make some little tweaks here and there. He probably will probably shouldn't take them this long to realize Malik Beasley can't pick someone up at a half court, but whatever.
It's a long season figured out by Valentine's day. That that's not the problem. The problem is, is I watch a team of sluggish players that don't really look like they want it that bad.
And that's okay. But, but who's, I mean, okay, this is going to be a tough question to phrase because it there's more than one answer, but whose job is it to make sure the players are ready to play and excited to play the coaching staff, right? Like, like that's part of the job. Get your guys ready to play, whatever that means.
Emotionally, spiritually, physically, like, yeah. If you loved your coach, you'd play hard. And this is not my take, but I would counter by saying, if you love your coach, you'd play hard for your coach. Cause you want your coach to be vindicated in the public opinion.
You would bust your ass for that guy because he's your guy. And even some of this, like Joe Berry stuff coming out where the players are like, Oh, I know Joe has been getting it in the media, but we love Joe. Like, can someone just say that about the coaching staff in the box? Like, yeah, I know things aren't going right now, but we got to do this for Griff. Like where's, where's that?
Like that that'd be my counter to your, to your thought. I also, you know, it's a team of veterans and they, they know how this league works. They've been on long playoff runs. They've been in a finals, right? Dame has played now in two spots. They've had all star, they've all gotten their contracts. They understand how this league works and how an 82 game regular season works. And multiple times, once against the jazz the other night, once against the Hawks earlier in the year, I was at that game. They decided early on in the second quarter that we are not competing tonight, recent Pacers game, one of those recent patients. And I, and I don't like, I was not sitting at Fiserv that night when they're down by 30 to the Hawks before halftime thinking I wish Adrian Griffin would have given a little bit better speech. Like at the end of the day, these players need to feel like the way they're playing is a reflection of them.
And if they don't feel that, and that doesn't mean anything to them, then I don't really know that any of this matters. So it starts with the players. And to me, it starts with Dame. It's like, dude, this franchise really wanted to bring you here. And this fan base was jacked to have you and Giannis won it. They wanted you so bad. They traded you holiday for you because they thought you were going to be the piece. So are you gonna, are you going to struggle and stumble and kind of mote because it's not going perfectly.
Are you going to do something about it? Like I, this is a lot on the players for me. So we can grumble about Griff. I don't think he's perfect, but it's, it's the players. One of the thought is just like Griffin did pretty dramatic, very dramatically changed the defensive identity and scheme, right?
It wasn't, it wasn't a minor adjustment. I mean, it, it's, it's different from, but it's as drastic as like that Jason Kidd, like trapping thing where there was always a guy open in the far corner. Cause you know, like it's, it's a, it's an extreme NBA defensive strategy.
It's not your typical setup. And they've had at this point, 37 chances to figure it out. Clearly they haven't, they're really bad at it.
I don't know what's going to happen first. Like let's say, let's say, let's say by and large, the roster and the coaching staff stay the same at some point before game 82, the coaching staffs either say, well, listen, the guys just either they don't want to do it. So they're not trying hard at it, or they're just not good at it.
Like someone's going to something even within the current function is going to change. They're going to have to say, we're not good at this. We're going to change it, or they're going to keep doing it. And they're going to try to figure it out. And they're just going to beat their head against the wall trying to figure it out.
I, I, the problem is like, needless to say, this is not the Oklahoma city thunder where you have 10 years of like a window, you have like a two year window. Can you, as John Horst, I'm like, can you sit there and just like, if you don't do anything, you are just hoping, cause you've not seen anything to suggest that it's going to get figured out. So you would just be hoping and saying, this is a veteran group.
They're pacing themselves. They're not going to get burned out in January. Like you'd be just doing that based on hope.
Right. So I, if I'm John Horst, I, I admit, I don't know what I would necessarily do. I don't have an in and out feel of the team. Like John Horst hopefully does, but I don't think I could just sit there and just say, man, I hope this gets better. Like I, I would feel burdened as the general manager to do something about it that I, John Horst can control.
And I wouldn't just sit back and I think this will be fine. Like, cause it's, it's pretty damn broken. Isn't it? Yeah. Well, if this keeps up there, they don't have a two year window. This reckoning will come this off season.
If this is the way this keeps up, then Griff will lose his job after year one. And then the thought is that, well, if that's how it's trending, why didn't you just do it right? Yeah. You got an email here. I got an email here from Bart's devil's advocate. Interesting. This sounds real. It says, Hey, Bart, love the show.
Congrats on going national. Again, this is from my devil's advocate. So this is me.
This is me in another universe that has stepped in and sees me in this universe. He says, Bart, we've been very adamant about firing Matt LaFleur this year. We also were very adamant about firing coach bud. And before that firing Jason kid, it seems we have a pension for wanting coaches fired. Uh, that being said, you have all of a sudden shifted on that and have been really defensive about Adrian Griffin. Can you just admit to yourself that if coach bud did not get fired and the bucks were playing like this under coach bud, you would be the first one rallying for coach, but to be fired right now that is from Bart's devil's advocate. Well, well drafted. I knew you were drafting something in the middle of grant and I talking, I didn't know it'd be that, um, uh, uh, eight three eight Bart, uh, cause we're six one six. I would say, I would say, fuck off you stupid bitch. Why'd you even buy a gym membership a month and a half ago?
If you've only gone five times, you fat slob. Yeah. You told him, um, to what level is the house on fire Bart and grant, or is it not even, has it not even been lit?
Smoldering smoking, smoldering. Yes. Do you fucking watch this team? Like not to be emergency guy, but they're fucking terrible right now.
I love this grant. Keep going. They don't care. They have no energy. And even when they win, they do the bare minimum. Like they make the most amount of mistakes and care as, as, as little as they possibly can while still winning the games. I will say that as they have been about as bad as they've been all season, this is the period where I've actually watched this team. The least that makes sense.
They've been on during playoffs and college football and during your radio show. So Thursday, and I already prefaced this to Shep, cause I said, there's going to be times where I turn the show into, I just think I'm on 1250 again. And you got, you got it. You got it.
You're on 1250, but it's just others. Yeah. Yeah.
To shovel the satellite last night. But you got it. Like I said, I am, I am worried about what kind of performance I will do on this show. Cause the bucks and Celtics play at six 30 on Thursday.
My show starts at nine. If the bucks have lost to the Celtics, I'm going to be a fucking disaster. But much like when the Yanis, when we came from last week and you were on the national show talking about it, Shep confirmed to you, like this is not a Wisconsin centric angle. This is the story of the night. The bucks, the two seat in the East playing the Celtics, the one seat in the East is the story of the night.
No matter where the host of the show lived. That's the, that's the story. Now you might take a more Milwaukee centric angle within it and have more frustration than a host in a different state might.
But like I'm preemptively telling you, it's the story of the night. It's the one in two seats in the East. I'll just basketball game at one o'clock tomorrow. Really weird.
Yeah. Cause last week, last week there were only two games. So I thought it was a bigger deal and there's two national TV games Lakers. And Oh, it's the, it's the Paris game, right, right, right.
By the way, I'll just say that we don't have to debate this. The NBA sucks this year for the most part. And that's separate of the bucks kind of being mid. I think it's been pretty good. Joe was suspended. Now he's done the rest of the year. The warriors were non factor, I guess like did the sun.
Hey, I'll be there Saturday night. The Lakers are being gifted games against the Raptors. And we have head coaches in Toronto going off on the NBA. When I don't know what his fine's going to be, but it's going to be a record setting.
The NBA is rigged level fine, which is what he basically said. Did you address that on the national show part? That that's, that's something where you wouldn't be like, Oh, I'm from Toronto. I don't know if you like, that's a story. You know, I don't know. Yeah. My last okay. Grant radio thing. My last, first of all, let me just, my last segment, I saw it. He had talked right during the last segment. So we were able to play it on the last segment of the night.
And I think that's cool. Cause it's fresh and it's happening. But I said, segment, a lot of people in the radio business call segments breaks. I view break as the commercial. Yeah. Segment in sports talk break in music, right? Like I just did a break on this and it was 60 seconds on a time.
Cause you're breaking into the music. Yeah. I just did a break about Aaron Rogers on Z 93, but I almost said my last break, but my break is a break. I'm taking a break.
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Hobie Milner, Hobie Milner returns. Is that the title of the live video? I mean, all right. I do want to review on echo if I can. Can I do a quick sports one and then you do your echo review?
Yes. My guy spoke got $120 million today. Let's name all of the head coaches that have won a title since Eric's bolster.
I think you'll be blown away by some of the names that's on that list. Just saying, did you, did you guys see why the heat randomly in a day in January did the extension now? No, they waited until he finalized his divorce. Really? Yes. He got divorced too. That's so, so say at the NBA reports.
So no, no, no cut of that 120 presumably is, was the thinking there. Do they have kids? I don't know. I don't know how to respond to this. It's clever. It's smart. Yeah. Yeah.
So who addressed that first? Like he spoke, we want to give you 120. We got a contract for you.
He's like, eh, let's offer. Still be good in January. Cause I'm about to tell my wife I'm out. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Echo five episodes dropped on Tuesday night. You can binge it.
It dropped. Yeah. The Marvel Marvel's got a thing that's weird on Disney plus where like the first couple episodes are 50 minutes and then it's 40 and then it's 39. And then like the last episodes a half hour. So a lot of people are upset about that and it is weird, but every story is kind of episodic. This might've served better for people if it was here's two giant mini movies or here's three mega size episodes. I think some people are griping about that.
Obviously it's not a like white man story. So people in the MCU people on the online call it now the MCU because they believe it's too woke. So that's great. That's really funny. It's clever, but it's really good.
Oh, that's good. I liked this show. I thought this was a good show.
I would say it was a little more than fine. Um, and I like the fact that this show exists. I'm somebody who you have the whole Marvel thing and there were all those movies and they all connected. I want the side stories. So I want stories that don't necessarily, you need, like you don't need to watch them to know what's going on. But I also want to know, I want to know what else is going on in this world because we get so little, what actually is going on in this world where there's aliens attack and people get smoked out of the air.
Like I want to know how everybody else is dealing with this world. Um, this is also kind of a extension of the Netflix daredevil punisher, Jessica Jones universe. Um, and they have made those on the Disney plus timeline cannon, which is a huge w for a lot of the people that like what they call the defender verse. Although iron fist was kind of bad. Um, I liked the show.
I would recommend it. Um, I just, I liked the show. I think, I think the problem with Marvel, I think the problem with Marvel is if it's not Avengers end game, then the MCU is a stray. Everyone goes into all these MCU projects now thinking they have to be the savior.
Nothing can just be like, there were some MCU projects in phase one and two, like some of those store man, you know, you kind of just, you know, you cut out a little bit. Your Thor hot take might've been lost in the interweb. So you might want to say that Thor one again. Yeah. My fucking internet piece of shit.
I think you said something like those storm movies ain't it, man. That's what I did say. I love that. I'm going to try to work from home here. I can't even fucking do an internet. Yeah.
I don't think you're ready for the work from home yet with your, with your internet. Oh my God. I'm doing like the world's best AJ Hawk impression while you talk about Marvel. I am listening intently, but I am providing next to nothing. So I think it's good. If you're, if your expectations are, I mean, I think it's good. I watched it. I was satisfied with it.
I always want a little bit more, but I was satisfied with it. I did like the Marvels. I can't wait till that's on Disney plus to see it again. Secret invasion is one of the worst pieces of fucking media I've ever seen in my life. So I can be fair with Marvel. Secret invasion was fucking terrible and an insult, really an insult to the franchise to all of it. I can't believe it got greenlit and echoes another one of these things where it seemed like there were, they had an eight episode than a six and a five. So some people are complaining about the editing, which they can't even tell.
They just saw somebody else say that, but it is good. The thing that I wish happened more in Marvel is I wish there were more references to the five years where everyone vanished the blip. I wish there were just more even subtle minor references to that in any project after because it wasn't just on earth. All of everyone everywhere disappeared. Half of people disappeared for five years. And I always think like, if there was that kind of event that happened in our lives, don't you think we would always talk about it and always talk about it and never really be able to move on.
And then I remember that Aaron Rogers is the only one talking about COVID three years later. So maybe, maybe they wouldn't continue to talk about the blip. I literally, I wondered if this was a setup to hit that though. And I assumed, and I was ready to add it if you didn't, but assuming you would, and then you hit it.
Yeah. Well, if you guys got blipped out of existence two years ago, three, four years ago, and we sat down to do a podcast, I guess we wouldn't talk about it like everything's normal. What more is there to say? Be like, Hey Paul, remember when you got blipped?
What was there to say? Or I bring shit up and be like, yeah, there was no baseball for five years because of the blip. Remind me when they got blipped, did they know, like, did, was it just like a second to blink in time for those who got blipped? Like, did, did they remember? There's nothing to remember, right? No, they like felt queasy or disappeared. And then in an instant for them, they were back. Yeah. For, yeah. So they, there's nothing to remember because they just, There's a lot of unanswered questions.
And we're assuming that when health flipped everyone back, they were all safe. But like, what if you were like in the, like, what if you were in a car driving, do you wake up? Where are you? Are you still in that car? Or are you just like, wherever?
Well, I assume you're, What if you were, what if you're having sex with someone and they didn't blip, then do you just come back in the thrust? I mean that last example aside, this is like, these are, these are thoughts that I want a whole show on this. Yeah.
Well, at least like a one hour, like beyond the blip, like fake mock entry thing, 30 for 30, the blip, blips effect on sports for real. Have you seen the leftovers, the HBO show? No, I do need to see that. That's right up my alley, right up your alley. And it's very similar to what we're talking about here, especially season one of the leftovers.
Grant is Googling the leftovers and from 2014. Yeah. It's phenomenal. And it's very like blip adjacent.
Oh, well, I'll put it right. It's not, it's not Marvel, but right to the top of my list, then. No, it's, it's excellent. Um, I, there's, okay, all I'm going to say, I won't go into seven minute tirade about it, but there are two shows that everyone needs to watch that are of the dramatic variety. One is the leftovers. The other is Fargo, the TV show.
You watch the first three there. It's I believe far, like I love Breaking Bad. I love Better Call Saul. I will, I will top try Fargo every season of Fargo, especially season one, but all is better than Breaking Bad and better calls, which for me is really hard to say because they're both so good, but Fargo is for me elite and the leftovers though, very maybe a difficult watch given the subject matter, uh, is just so good. I'll, I'll, I'll put in first.
I rewatched the first season of severance this last weekend and I think it was anything I've seen. So good. Well, speaking of leftovers, if you don't have many leftover gummies, now's the time to order it. Happy place, hemp.com promo code Bart, get your CBD, CBNs, help you go nine, nine, 34% off promo code Bart, Bort, Bart, 25% off still works. Promo code Bart. If you want, but you want to save more money 34% promo code Bort as long as green Bay's alive.
Speaking of green Bay, I assume we can talk about them for a moment. PI. We can. Here's, I mean, there's so many, like try to find a different, your wife call you Magnum PI. I'm God damn it. I was going to say, I was going to call him Magnum.
The next chance I had, uh, one of my, I, one of my nicknames was in fact Magnum. Yes. That kicks ass. Yep. All right. Here's the angle that, uh, I'm curious about and it's different than like the Packers can beat the Cowboys in Dallas, which whatever, if you want to answer that question, you can, you can pack as well. I will say seven. I mean, I don't know what was seven and a half and I'm not a, I'm not the gambling man. Like I was like, whoa, like yes, Dallas is 16 and oh at home the past two years, but seven and a half.
I don't know. My prediction on that is I think there will be a time in this game. I don't know when it will be, but there'll be a time in this game where I think, Oh fuck, we might win this. Now we might lose.
It might be the first quarter after we kick a field goal, but yeah. Is this the most mismatched field goal kicker up a matchup of all time? So you're, you're really down on Anders. Well, yeah, you got drafted cause the guy coached his brother. It's ridiculous. I mean, it was, it added to the familiarity.
It's not why he got drafted. That doesn't mean that you, that doesn't mean like you put, Oh, Oh, I want to, I want to call it a program against Bart's show. I'm going to put one of his brothers on the radio. So you're, you're, you're off Anders. Carlson's a problem or yeah, he's bad.
Hmm. Right. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm with Barton. So many other Packers fans. We should just have Mason Crosby till he's 80. That's that's all Crosby. You saw him this year.
Like he's done. I, I did. I did.
I did. I at no point wanted any part of Mason Crosby this year. It's time to none. I want off the ride. I want, I want onto the next thing. I'm I will stand by this young kicker. All right.
I will too. The Packers are set at wide receiver and should not invest significant draft or cap space resources on that position. The Packers are set at wide receiver. They have their guys. Now they might, you know, there might be like, you know, wide receiver five ad or something, but like the core of the wide receivers Packers are set at this position and should not invest significant resources on it. This off season or I guess I'm going to say, I mean, yes, they are.
Mm-hmm. They are set. I don't know if I have much to add grant. I think if, if the Packers believe the Christian Watson can get it together and play a lot more games than yes, they are set. If this is Christian Watson, then they need a, they need a number one guy. You know, some people say like, Oh, I would give my Achilles to Rogers so that he could have played this season. Like I would not give my hamstring to Christian Watson.
Cause he just fucking find a way to ruin that too. See, but like, even if Christian Watson is a guy that plays eight games a season, which would suck because he's the highest, get them out of here. Not where I'm saying like, let's even say that we're, let's say that's the worst case scenario, which it probably is at this point between Wicks and Reed with Dobbs as your James Jones is obviously the frequent comparison is it doesn't mean you don't like ads. Like I said, some wide receiver four, some wide receiver five, some depth, but like, let's say you went out and traded for a wide receiver one, then you're not, you know, T Higgins, let's say they go pay T Higgins this off season.
Someone of course then gets bumped out. Like, so, you know, Wicks or Reed or Watson or definitely Dobbs and Dobbs, I would put at the bottom of this current Packer roster list, Bo Melton. Now he's not playing for sure.
He's not playing. I don't know that that's, you know, he's really good, but T Higgins is better. So like, let's just imagine that T Higgins was like, Hey, I want to come to Green Bay. Just, you know, give me the 20 mil a year and I'm yours. Do you, is, is that really where the Packers should invest? Or if like there's a wide receiver who's dropped to that jets pick in the second round and the Packers are on the board, they draft a wide receiver. Like it's going to be exciting because it's a pass catcher and it's people that we know more than we know trenches guys. But like, I'd be like, huh? Like if they did that, I would say, Oh shit, Christian Watson's just not part of this team. Like if they did that, I believe so much in Wicks and so much in Reed, but if they did something like Higgins or a second round pick, I would say, Oh damn, like they're out on Watson because I think Watson right now for sure Dobbs Dobbs would be the first man out, but then Watson would be the second man up. So I don't know.
It's, I don't know. So anyway, they're set at wide receiver or say more. It's it's kind of funny that the 23 year old wide receivers are like the old men are not going to get out on the field.
They're going to lose their jobs to the 22 year olds. Well, when Dobbs got hurt against the bears, I like, I, and I tweeted at the time, I'm like, are we sure Bo Melton like can't do more with those targets and touches like in this game right now, I, man, I, I don't know. They have a lot of depth. But you, you do need, I mean, Watson makes Watson's good and so good when he's healthy.
He's so, so good when he's healthy. So the Packers are just going to have so many picks in this draft, right? They're going to have two twos, two threes, which by the way, it's funny. They're they're composite draft value. If you put together all the picks that they have, they rank third.
Yeah. Which is hilarious. Given that like six weeks ago, half the listeners of the show wanted to take the season to get a slightly better first round pick. They, there's only two teams in the league with, with a better collection of draft picks than the Packers. So I only say that to say that they're going to have so many picks.
A guy might fall to them and they, why not? I guess I would like, I'd sign Mike Evans. That would be interesting. Well, we, I mean, with the money that like, that's going to go to Jordan. Jordan was going to get a lot of money.
Yes. But once they do clear the Rogers dead cap stuff, once they make a decision on Bakhtiari, if they cut him, they can save at least 20 million off Bakhtiari from what he's currently making 20, 23 cap versus 24 cap. They can pay love and still, because all the wide receivers aren't making money. Aaron Jones is a free agent. If Aaron Jones comes back, he'll make less. AJ Dylan comes off the books, even though it's not a big number, but like they can, they can and will give Jordan love and astronomical amount of money, but that doesn't like take them out of the T Higgins sweepstakes. For example, like they still have plenty of money. All I'll say is like, if they are in the serious running for T Higgins for Mike Evans, they use that early jets, second round pick that they have on a wide receiver.
I'm absolutely going to be like, wow, let's talk about this emergency pod. But I would also be right now. I say this in January, very surprised because I'm going to answer my question and say, I think they're set well in terms of like their one through three, one through four guys. Well, and that's just not a, you know, they could use a pick in the second or the third round or whatever on a wide receiver. But I think if they do that, it's going to be because a great wide receiver that they didn't really expect to fall that far fell or like, wow, we like the fact that he's available, we have to take him. And the Packers actually, that reality exists. I think mostly across the board, probably in all the rounds, if Rashid Walker hadn't played well this year, well then no, no, no.
Then you actually have a need, like you need to go get tackles. But if the board falls away in such the, in the first round where, you know, there's a great wide receiver, there's a great safety. There's a great, like the Packers don't have to take any perfect position. They're, they're at least decent just about everywhere.
They need talent everywhere so they can approach this draft wide receiver included with, with the attitude and with the approach you want to approach every draft. It's like, we're just going to take the players we think are good position be damned and they're gonna be able to do that. That's exciting.
It is. I would say like, I've been thinking about this. I don't, I'm certainly on the week of a playoff game against the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy. I don't want to go too deep into it, but I have been thinking about like, what is their weakest position as you go into the off season, they won't have any running backs on the roster, like cause of Dylan and Jones safety Savage comes off all these other like, you know, Ford and Owens. So like those are open positions, but like there's so many young players at so many spots.
Like I guess I'd say draft another edge guy early, you know, because like those too though. Yeah. I don't know.
They they're very well set up. VAR. Do you have any, I know like you were almost like at a loss for words on the package or set at wide receiver and you have anything else to say on this topic? No, I just don't want to, well, I guess yes. But I don't want to stray too much from the fact that we're able to have these kind of conversations because we answered the main question of the season and that was, is Jordan love good in the answers?
Yes. And I think that there were a lot of people that, you know, didn't like the pick. I was very animated in that you could still argue whatever would have happened, but I'm glad they're in a position now that they have this guy for the foreseeable future. And I think if you ever like thought that Jordan love wasn't going to be good and you saw on tape and you didn't like it and you were, you know, skeptical and, and now you see that's one thing, that's one thing. But if you ever for a second advocated for Sean Clifford to be the starting quarterback of this team in 2023, you are a fucking moron.
And, and I don't, and I don't ever think that you have anything else ever important to say that was the worst part of the season for me. Worst take Sean Clifford should start or after five games, Griffin should be fired. Which take would take pissed you off more.
They both have you fiery. Yeah, probably Griffin. Why are you going out of your way to defend this guy? It is very odd.
It's a very, I'm not even defending him anymore. Paul Paul grants Magnum. Thank you. It's just whiny young bucks fans.
You don't want to see, you don't want to see what you want to avoid is bucks fans getting rewarded for bad behavior. That's, that's really at the root of the, okay, I see. Fine. Sure. This is just because, just because you go and you know, you happen to sit third row one night, you think you're a fucking insider to the goddamn team.
You can like hear conversations. I contribute to brew hoop. Thank you.
By the way, I read a blog every week. That was mean. Tim cut that please.
But God seems pointed at someone and it wasn't. Sorry. Let's say this about Mike McCarthy. I think we at least need him.
He won't want it. He doesn't want to talk about the Packers and the, and the, and the, his past, but here's my take. And then I'm going to or it, if the Cowboys go to the super bowl, like McCarthy is going to be glorified away. But if the Packers go into Dallas and win, the Cowboys will have an open head coaching job this off season, just like the Seahawks, just like the Titans or I don't think there's any question. I think he's getting fired if they don't win this game.
I agree. It's been, it's been four years. If they lose this game, he will have had one playoff win. And is that really, that's it right?
Just the one. And I hate to say this, but Jerry Jones is 81 years old. So what's he going to do at 81 at 81? Are you going to ride out Mike McCarthy? Are you going to say, Oh my God, this, this coaching market has Bella check. If I want to give him an offer, I got Jim Harbaugh sitting out there.
I got Mike Vrabel now sitting out there. Pete Carroll. I mean, for now, Pete Carroll's in an advisor role with the Seahawks, but like if Dallas said, Hey, Hey Seahawks, like we, we want him to come coach. Like I think Pete Carroll wants to coach, but they don't want to fire him. They would probably, I don't think Jones, I don't think Jerry would be like, well, this Ben Johnson guy out of Detroit.
I think that he's got a good, he wants, he wants to win immediately. Yeah, absolutely. And then Johnson might be the better answer to that in year one, but probably in year three. But yes, Jerry Jones would go for Bella check Vrabel, Carroll Harbaugh. Like for sure. Grant, you seemed again, you seem not convinced that this is a, if you lose your fired Mike McCarthy game.
No, I think that's, that's probably the case. They can't lose this team at home with everyone healthy. Like, like this is the year where I think water found its level where most folks realize that, you know, for all the shit we talk about Dak, he's pretty good. And for, you know, as much flack as Mike McCarthy gets, he's still really successful NFL coach and he won 12 games again. So I think we all kind of found the truth with the Cowboys. And the truth is this year is they're probably better than everyone except the 49ers. And even that, like, I still think they could beat the 49ers.
Cowboys fan told me last night, he would Gary, he would take a loss right now. If it meant Mike Vrabel the next five years. Yeah.
That's no, this is the year I got water. This is your best chance at a Super Bowl since the 19 hundreds. Yeah. The quarterback that you have to beat the quarterbacks you would have to get through include Jordan love Baker Mayfield and Brock Purdy. Although those are the types of quarterbacks that knocked Aaron Rogers out of the playoffs for years. But no, I think if, if the Cowboys lose this game in it, of course it matters. I actually, I take it back.
I don't know if it matters how the game looks. I think if they lose this game, he's got to go. Yeah.
When you start talking to yourself into like, well, yeah, it was a meltdown, but it wasn't exactly no, no, you got it. And I would add to that, that I think McCarthy would get a job a week later. Do you guys, do you guys think that that coaching hirings like should have to wait until a point where everyone can be involved at the same time? Yes.
Just like the transfer portal. Yeah. We were texting about this, the three of us as mentioned by a friend of mine, but like the Packers don't have to worry about any of their coordinators or assistants being, taking interviews right now. But like, if you start looking at this list of all the prominent teams, there are coordinators that even some of their position coaches are, they're thinking about where they're going to work in a week, in a month, because they're about to get more money, more title. Like there, it is a problem. It's a problem. McCarthy gets hired within a week.
Oh, I do. I think like he either has to sit out another year or, or teams are going to be like, fuck, we didn't get our guy. Now your boy Tepper would give McCarthy a bajillion dollars. Now wouldn't McCarthy do it?
I don't know, but Tepper would pay. McCarthy already cucked himself to Jerry Jones. McCarthy would kind of rip on TV. If you do a pregame show at the desk, like he, so kind of here, let me, let me put a, Hey, do you guys want to spell media? M E. So let me stop you there. The rest of the letters producer can fill in the rust.
There is, there are some great, that's a high level riff that many people won't appreciate enough. Thank you for that part. McCarthy off the record, McCarthy away from cameras is so entertaining and such like, I, there were times I encouraged him to be like, Hey Mike, why don't you just do this? Like when the cameras are rolling, Oh, I got on the coach of the Green Bay Packers. Like, but it's, he's awesome. Like, so I act like as a personality, as a guy, if he just talked football, like candidly, he'd be awesome. But I think he's a, I think he's a football coach. I think he needs this right now.
He might not always need it, but he needs it right now. All right. Last thing, call your shot right now.
The Superbowl matchup is Cowboys chiefs, Cowboys cheats. That was my pre-season pick. I'm sticking to it. I still feel good. This is like Bart sticking with his Griffin take.
He's just not, even though all the evidence is to the content, you're going to tell me, wait, which, which part of that prediction do you have a problem with? Wait, wait a minute. The chiefs, Andy Reed, Patrick Mahomes and amazing defense. Well, they're going to play in the cold and they're going to play at Buffalo. They got their number. They're going to play at home.
Yes. They're going to play at home in the cold. Let's yeah.
Chiefs could get in. See, I think, I think Niners Ravens is what everyone's going to say. What say, but that's, it's just too obvious. You're you had a call last night. I was listening. He gave all his predictions for both sides. He just picked all favorites and it ended with Niners Ravens. It's like, I said, that's very chalky and he goes, no, it's not.
Then he's like, well, I guess I don't understand what chalky means. Yeah. You turn on the favorites Cowboys chiefs, but the Cowboys see what's going to happen is the Cowboys like the Packers in 2010 are just going to squeak by the Cowboys are just going to sweep by the Packers and that's going to jolt.
That's going to jolt them into the mode that they need to be in from here on out. I still think the Eagles have a bullshit run. Wow.
Now that's another evidence to the contrary. Like by the way, Nick Sirianni, if the Eagles lose, he's fired. He's done. Matt Eber flus is keeping his job through all this, by the way, just that is, I think that's fine. Honestly, I think like that's fine. Oh, sure.
Yeah. If you want to keep up a fine coach, I suppose. So I mean like even as a pack, as a Packers, like, Oh, I don't think Eber flus is the problem. Well, no, I think he's, I think he's fine, but I don't, I didn't Vrabel wasn't the problem. I don't think that girl was the problem.
I don't know. As a Packers fan, as a Packers fan, I think it's ridiculous. Maybe a different perspective, Bart, a nationalist perspective, perhaps maybe feels differently, but from a national, from a national perspective, from a national perspective, I'm kind of leaning toward the Rams beating the lions.
Love, love Rams dude, but from a national perspective, I would not be surprised at that outcome. And I, the way I'm trying to give real takes now is if it's like, Bart, if you get this wrong, you will fucking die. Say, say what you mean, say what you really deep believe.
Don't just like say it like your life depends on it. If my life depended on it and I had to make a prediction for this super bowl Ravens Niners. Yeah. I hate it because of the Niners. I still think the Ravens are my pick. I know Lamar's one in three in the playoffs, but guess what? This is a new playoffs.
I don't think that man, are you more con in that pick? Are you more confident in the Ravens making it or the, or the Niners making it? I am more confident in the Ravens making it. However, the Baltimore's got me on my little skittish. Yeah. That happens. Although maybe we see the Texans win.
Maybe we see the Texans win this weekend. I want them to just to keep proving me further. Correct. Oh, about CJ Stroud. My guy. I believe you guys that, um, was it you that said a team should offer a Ricky Williams type trade to trade all their picks for CJ Stroud. Yes. I think you said that that was very negative take of you.
A lot of people didn't think it at the time because of his test score. And I said, I'm telling you, he said, I don't even know that the test exists. All right, boys. Thank you.
Thank you. Good to talk to you guys. Nice to see you both. Nice to see you both. Thanks for not forgetting about us, Bart.
He's contemplative from a national perspective. Trademark. You know, none of these affiliates have been like, Hey, will you come on promote your show? Yeah. That should happen.
Shouldn't it? I did. Yeah. Grant's the only one. I got to introduce him to all his new listeners.
We knocked out. I'm getting less negative feedback than I thought at this point. So either one of three things, people are already aware of me on CBS. Um, they don't hate me as much as I thought they would, or they're doing a real good job shielding it for me. I think you're just more appealing to a nationwide audience rather than the people you live in. And I am.
Yeah. Milwaukee, Milwaukee people listen to me like, like this, say something, you fucking lib, say something, you fucking lab. And I'd be like, ah, geez. I was wearing my mask, fell off at the grocery store. There it is. Winkler, you liberal mass wearing fuck, trying to protect my eight month old kid on this virus, but sure.
Tim duplicate this in post. I dunno. There's some, there's some, there's some parallels, uh, with, with Bart and Rogers, both revisiting the pandemic from very different angles.
I, of course it is interesting. All right, boys, got to fly. See you. We will be later. Gentlemen. Bye. Bye.
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