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Sprite is a registered trademark of the Coca-Cola Company. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the Winkler versus Obar. Winkler Grand Pills, alongside Paul Immigas here. It is our weekly edition of Mm-hmm, in which Paul has the topics of the day, and then we say yes or no, but in a very fun way with mm-hmm or mm-mm.
How are you boys doing this fine, fine random ass Tuesday? More important, how you are. Oh, you dirty dog, you. Wow. Paul, how are you doing?
I'm alright. I'm excited to always chat with you guys. May not sound like it. It may not sound like you with my enthusiasm with my. current state, but Are you ill?
Yeah, baby need a diaper. Baby need a band-aid? What's wrong? I'm banky. Give me a banky.
You're a bit of a hypochondriac, though, aren't you? That sounds so negative. Let me phrase it as: you're someone that's very in tune with their body, and whether or not you're 100%. Yes.
Okay. I'm having a real hard time with the unemployment. Um Yeah.
Sorry, sorry. The thing that's bothering me right now today is I had a lot of productive time. And I did. Accomplish more than I. Cause I had the day in front of me and I thought, I'm doing so much fucking shit today.
That's good. I did not do anywhere near. What I wanted or was capable of, but I still did enough. To feel good. And the big W for me is that I did not take a nap.
I have been settling into naps. Just because I'm Brothers, I got to tell you, there's some days I wake up, and the number one thing I want to do is just go back to bed. Like, I want the day to be over. I believe just because of the void of meaning in my life. And now soccer's coming to an end.
This weekend, which has been keeping me going. No summer soccer? No summer soccer. Mm. Um baseball's ramping up.
So we've got that to look forward to. I am regrettably Going to one of the banana ball games this weekend. Where are they? Milwaukee. Where?
It's not the Savannah bananas. It's two of the other. Let's call them teams. Uh it's at Miller Park. Really?
How did I get it? And if you can't get there. The games will be both broadcast by CW Sports. Or maybe it's TNT, one of them, but they're both going to be on T V. Hmm.
Isn't it like the fun pops versus the magic dragons or something? I looked this up earlier this week. Yeah, it's like the jumping jacks versus the flaming dorks or something.
Something ants on a log versus the bungee balls. You are going this part? Yeah, we're going. Like, what's a ticket like for a Paul? Good luck.
You missed the lottery, Paul. No, there was a lottery. I think tickets are like 40 bucks face. Anywhere, like across like wherever you sit? I don't know.
I'm going with somebody who got us tickets. How much does a sweet cost for Banana Ball? This is the only way I'm going. You know what? They probably don't even offer sweets.
They're probably like, no, it's too corporate. Uh I hope that guy in that yellow suit's not there. Do you know that in the Banana League or whatever it's called, that if a foul ball is caught by a fan, it counts as an out? Yeah, and another thing is the bananas aren't even that good, they always lose. Has there ever been a way like Grant Maybe you Have we ever seen a If you're cheering for a team.
and the foul ball goes into the crowd. And the guy next to you is thinking about catching it, but you don't want that to happen. And you just like tackle. Like, that could. This has to have happened to some degree, right?
Where you take out I mean, if you're willing to grab Like if you're opposing fans. Right.
So you're an opposing fan and the fan of the team, you're like, he's about to catch it and give you get your team an out that you don't want to happen.
So you just knock the shit out of the guy next to you because don't don't give my team an out.
So let's say, and these are the teams. Is that interference? Is that like fan interference? And then so if I'm a fan of the party animals. If I'm a fan of the party animals and the guy sitting next to me is a fan of the one moment.
Yeah. Uh loco beach coconuts. Yeah, okay. I can be that no-no, sir. Mm-hmm.
I don't want this out.
Now, one issue that I'm worried about. Which I'm not really worried about. It'll be fine. But my kid already likes baseball. Mm-hmm.
So I don't want him to see this and be like, oh, I wish baseball was that. This is better. And all of a sudden... Fuck the Brewers. What time do the um I'm sorry.
Loco Beach Coconuts play. Mm-hmm. Anyway, this is. I'm Bart Grant Paul. We're brought to you by Carl's Place.
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Okay. I kept the email. I never got back to him. Should I just get back to him now? Shame like Hey.
What's my excuse for not getting back for two years? I'm a lazy fuck. I'm a lazy piece of shit. Do you have... I would assume NFL-related topics du jour today with the many trades.
That went down. Yeah. I guess I could just hand it over. Uh to you then. It might be We we we can keep it to all the you know, the football stuff that Some people who cover the Packers are not.
But I want to keep it strictly on the football aspect and say the Person on the Packers. who leads the team in rushing this year, is not currently on the roster. Mm. This is something that should be floated on every Wisconsin sports radio show in buy or sell, in fair or foul, in paper or plastic. The classic.
Player one, two, three, caller fold, player one, two, three is not on the roster. Yes or no? That's the perfect framing.
Well done, Paul. Thank you.
Now, I don't know much about the other backs available because, as a Wisconsin sports fan, I only watch my teams. I don't, I don't know. To me, there's one NFL team. I don't watch anything else. Um Okay.
The people There's plenty of people practicing. Today. There are. I would say.
So the leading rusher is on the roster? The leading the Packers the person who leads the Packers and Russian this year is not. On the roster right now. I'm going to go. He is currently on the roster.
Yeah, and his name's Josh Jacobs. I think I'm with Bart on this, yeah. I don't know what happened. I don't want to speculate things that I don't know. But I'm certainly not going to take my news background degree and try to investigate the story.
Leave that to Pablo Torre. And Bukowski. And I'm going to start calling him Pete Pablo, is what I'm going to start calling him. Good reference. Grant, do you know who Petey Pablo is?
I do not. I barely do either. He had a song 20 years ago. He had a song. I don't remember what it was on the top of my head, but he had a song.
I mean, Petey Pablo over here. Trying to fucking break it down. Um If it's not him. There are other guys. I know the Marshawn Lloyd.
Crowd Is there a hype train for martial arts? Is there a whole crowd? We lost Wilson, right? Is he in Seattle? He's in Seattle.
But do we still have uh Chris Brooks? Yep. Great. I don't know who else there would be.
Well, so I mean, here's the reason there's a segue to it, and then keep going. But if there was. you know, the uh Josh Sweat trade. And then along with that comes James Connor or Trey Benson. I mean, there's multiple iterations where you can't.
Yeah, we've seen the Braylon Allen rumors too. Um, but like Jonathan Taylor, I've seen Alvin Kamara, but even if Josh Jacobs is on the team. Is he a seventh or eighth year running back at this point? I mean, there are other things that can happen with injuries and. underperformance that could lead to him not being the leading rusher beyond the outcome of you know what's happening off the field So It you could still go acquire.
you know just will keep you the james conner tray benson type of running back And then That but you don't see that a lot. Like the Packers would trade for sweat and then also get a back in the deal. That, like, well, again, they never happens in football. It's also very rare that in late May, early June, you're all of a sudden, like, oh shit, our starting running back might not be available.
So, like, unique circumstance. I've also seen reports. For whatever they're worth, that the Packers would not do both. Meaning, if they have to trade for a running back, that essentially takes them out of the Josh Sweat. I won't call it a sweepstakes, but the point being, if they have to do a running back, they're not going to do this other thing.
They can't. Yeah. Which they could. I mean, Jesus Christ, the Rams just traded for Miles Garrett.
So the idea that we're like, well, you can't, if you have to trade a fourth-round pick for Josh Sweat, you can't also do this. It's like, well, you could, though. You know, they could, but it's also just presented that they won't. And also, realistically, I know we keep. There's many teams that you could trade with a running back, but the Cardinals just used what the fourth overall pick on a running back while having Trey Benson, while having James Conner.
And I I should have Is Algier or is Tyler Algier? Is he also in Arizona? Or is he somewhere else? He might have gone to Arizona. I think so.
I'm like, oh, they have four running backs, is what I kept thinking. And they who coaches the Cardinals?
So it is. It's Tyler Algier. Coaches the Cardinals? Yeah. Remind me.
Dickhead's brother. Oh Well And the Cardinals and Packers are going to hold joint practices. And what a fucking circle jerk of a week that's going to be. I'm gonna be fucking insufferable. You will be.
More insufferable than normal. Fucking Matt and Michael are. Playing tiddlywinks at practice. Oh, we never imagined playing as kids that we'd become coach. Nobody fucking did.
Your parents didn't, 'cause they saw the two biggest dorks of the fucking elementary school somehow have fucking jobs. They make up one sixteenth of the goddamn Football League, a league that was founded on blood, sweat, tears, and guts. Men used to coach this sport. And now it's a bunch of fancy haircuts.
Now it's a fucking bunch of La Fleurs.
Okay. Tom is not using LeFleur as a derogatory term. Hey. Quit acting like on the floor. You piece of lefleur.
Watch, watch it. I'm gonna start it. Watch it. I I feel like Josh Jacobs will be the leading rusher at the end of the year. I e-practice today and I.
Spitballing? I don't know anything about anything. I'm no Pete Pablo. I'm no Peter Bukowski. I'm not even.
Scott Grodsky or Bart Winkler in his heyday. But I feel like the Packers would not put him out there if they New Well, this is about to get worse because there's a video. Or there are pictures, or there are charges that are about to be pressed. I mean, maybe there are charges that are going to be pressed, but. I think the Packers probably know a good amount.
I feel like they probably got some ins with the local Uh a heat. PD, what's the word? Agencies? I feel like if they thought this was about to get worse, they would not have him on the practice field. Could be wrong.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know either. I do talk. I do have uh I do have some insight. Into the into what's going on in Green Bay.
Do you? Yes.
Uh I have uh the the main Detective on the case, I'm told, is a Packers owner. Um It's this gentleman right here on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. I don't think I trust him. Can I just say you don't look as bad in that picture as you think you do? I think I look good.
Yeah, I'd go so far as to say you look good.
So, I have been flirting with the idea of shaving my beard. For the summer. and having a mustache. And my wife has never seen me. Maybe one time I had like a Fu Man Chu.
It was when I went skydiving after I went rocky mountain climbing. Um,. And I did 2.7 seconds then on the bowl afterwards. Who coincidentally was named Fu Manchu? Yeah, well you love Deeper and you...
Love sweet. Um I was just living that was the period in my life where I was living like I was dying. Yeah. Paul still is. I don't know the reference.
I went skydiving. I don't think so. Tim McGraw. All right. What's this?
When he sings, he sings. He doesn't scream. Oh, that sounds really lame. Yeah. But anyway.
I don't sh I've I've had a beard because when I got done with TV, let's say. I had to shave every day and I hated. I said, I'm never going to, I'm never shaving my beard. And so I've had a beard for 16 years. And some people call her my wife, but I also have this beard.
And I was going to go ahead with it. And she's like, yeah, I don't care. But then I asked my son. Oh, with the on with the mustache you asked him? I showed him a picture.
And there was a similar situation. I think. My dad had a mustache growing up. I think everyone's dad had a mustache growing up. But then he shaved it, and like we didn't know.
I don't know. I might have the details of the story wrong. Like, we were. We were more like we're like this isn't my dad So he looked at this picture and he's like, that's not my dad.
So I'm going to, I can't go with the mustache. Listen, you've been talking recently on our. discussions Are mmms. That There have been a slight transition, sadly, from like him calling you daddy to dad more often. A lot of dad.
If you go full mustache, daddy's gone. Not necessarily. Not if I meet up with some of the four. Not when I get to that playground and see some of those other moms seeing me stroll up with. I'll be called daddy all the time.
I was going to say, Paul, it just won't be coming from Bart's son. I didn't know you were Christian Cage. He looks like Louis C.K.'s half-brother in that picture, is what he looks like. The scowl, too. But to be clear, your son would probably go, like, yes, father.
Like that that mustache you can only be like Yes, that is my father. Sir. Hugs are out. You handshake now. And you'll be lucky to get that.
Maybe on graduation day. Yeah. Yeah, you're I think you might have a bit too much like You might be a bit too like Reel of like a human, like, yeah, like, how can I phrase this? Like you you you feel deep feelings. Right.
And that man with the mustache does not. I also think if I'm going to shave to a mustache, I should probably wait until... I'm not at a playground every day, and I'm done coaching my team for the spring. Didn't want to say it, but you said it, so that's good. Yeah.
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Because we've known it was going to happen since before Rossini became Infamous.
Well, yeah, should this make people more mad about Russini? The first thing I texted to you guys was: gee, I wonder how she knew about this five months ago. How did she know about she never wrote? I'm it's you see, but that see the problem.
Okay, should we go? What's the Rossini part of this? Clearly, did she report something? I must be missing it. She's been putting AJ Brown, she put past tense in this case because of her no longer being employed, but like she put a lot of AJ Brown to Patriots into the universe repeatedly.
But a lot of people did. That wasn't, it wasn't like, no, no, we're talking about the this. I mean, this is the equivalent of Shams talking Giannis out of Milwaukee. Like, that's what this. No, no, no, it is.
I mean, like, we've we see the Giannis Sham stuff. This is the equivalent of it.
So who's Shams fucking? That's what we got to discuss. Get Petey Pobble, get Petey Pobble on the case. Yeah. By the way, this song was Freak a Leak.
I just looked it up. I don't remember how it goes, but the Petey Pablo Saw was Freaka League. It's live like you are dying. And I'm pretty sure it was on the album of the same name. I think we can referenced on the show.
Now they're Coming together. Yeah, so to be clear, the Tim McGraw song was not freaky leaked. No. I don't believe it was called that. It is the studio album by the same name.
God damn, do I know my country music? 2004. All right. Is country music your favorite genre? Right now it is.
I'm back. There's nothing else that's touching it. I don't know what it is. It makes me feel like a man, I guess. Death Cab is a new album coming out this week, and I'm just I think I'm full of Death Cab.
I don't need another album. You know what I mean? Didn't I tell you months ago, I sent you like right when it went on sale. Are you not going to see them in Milwaukee? No, I'm not because I have decided to not only, and I do this every time, but.
Not only is the World Cup going to be my priority over the next six weeks. It will also be my personality. When is that starting? How is it not started yet? I've been hearing about it for years.
It starts next Thursday.
Okay. Mexico plays South Africa. And then South Korea plays check. Chechnya? The Czech Republic at night.
No, no, it's Chechnya now. That one. Is that the same country? I don't know. I went through this with hockey too.
I don't remember.
Now everyone's spelling turkey a new way. How? It's not Ukraine, it's the Ukraine. Yeah, Turkey is spelled T-U-R-I. K-Y-E-S-E-E- What?
Yeah, with the little talking about. Turkey. But like not not the f not not the country turkey is Here. This wasn't the best way to do that. I could have Googled it on my own screen.
Okay, there we go. Oh, team. My calendar. See, this is flag day. There's four games and there's a brewery.
June 14th, flag day. How could I forget? Yeah. You grab um Big UFC fight might be that weekend. Mm.
That would be my first UFC fight to watch. Have not gotten ever got into it. But So, the World Cup games are spread out all across the U.S. These are things I don't follow, so I have no idea. You said something.
What questions do you have? Hit me. For soccer? Yeah. Where the fuck are they playing the games?
All over the country. Why? I don't understand.
Well, there's 48 teams in this tournament. They can't just. Play at MetLife every fucking day. There's games in Seattle, there's games in LA, there's games. The closest is Kansas City.
We don't get it in Chicago. Wouldn't you pick a region at least? I don't know. Maybe I don't, maybe I'm.
Well, the whole country's hosting. I understand that, but along with Canada and Mexico. From sea to shining sea. I saw there's a game in Tijuana, actually. There was a big to-do about that.
Yeah. Okay. Canada plays their games in Canada. And the US is the blank best team. in the in the world soccer stuff.
Probably Low teens, high 20s. All that good. They're they just got it they gotta The dream scenario for the U.S. is to get out of their group. And then win a game.
Who's in their group? Paraguay Can you beat Paris? Can you beat Australia? And Turkey, I think, is the other one. Is that are those winnable matches, games, pitch, pitch, play, pitch plays?
Okay. First of all.
Okay. This fucking guy that I was coaching against last week, total American. Totally. America? Patriot?
If you have like if you're coaching against somebody from a different country They'll use the soccer words. Once people know that I like soccer, they go. What was the good score? 0-0. Oh, I'm sorry, 0-0.
No, don't be sorry. The score is fucking zero to zero. And while they do refer to it as the pitch. This coach kept being like Get up the pitch, get up the pitch. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Field. If you're gonna call it soccer. Right.
Everything else is the the thing. Yes.
You can't be like. Oh How many like I ran I ran a 40-yard dash and then measure everything else in metric system. Sure. You gotta be full on board with one or the other. I like it.
That is what we do, but yes. I'm not a soccer guy that will, I mean, I'm not a soccer guy that will ever say pitch. Or nil nil. Or any of that shit. Keeper versus goalie?
Oh, good question. I think goalie sounds a little affluor to me, so I go with Keeper. He would say keeper. You know what? He'd say tender.
LeFleur would say keeper because he's a fuck. I'd like to. My big issue with the Josh Jacobs situation is LaFleur. LaFleur's just up there, like, what are you going to do? What are you going to do?
You both have LDS, LaFleur derangement syndrome. That's a fucking lootly, I do. I don't. I just know who I I make judgments on people of whom I trust or don't trust. very quickly.
And they can prove me wrong. And they can like, but like he hasn't.
So like, it doesn't matter. I'm sorry, Paul. Go ahead. No, I would just say. He's a He's a there's a type, right?
Everyone is a generally speaking a fits into a general category. 20 different types of people. And you and you say, like, oh, I've met people like that person. And that doesn't necessarily mean like that LeFleur is whatever he is. And he I could be wrong.
I just know that is a type of person of whom I'm like, I don't trust you. Matt LaFleur could be my kid's teacher. I would have him move to a different class. Matt LaFleur could be a police officer. I would not trust him.
He'd be corrupt. Matt LaFleur could be a doctor. I would get a second opinion. There's nothing about Matt LaFleur. that I think is I think he I think he's a terrible human being.
So I don't know. I don't know about that. I That's okay. You're obviously allowed to have that thought. I'll share more than I intended on sharing because maybe it'll spark an interesting conversation.
That That's the Paul Credo. You get nothing from me. You get nothing from me. Unless We can get 10, 15 minutes of convo about it. But that by the way, that's how I do life.
That's not just like recording with you guys. Like, if you want to go, I know, that's what I'm saying. We can go deep on something or you can fuck off. I'm not going to have a one-minute conversation about anything. You can't even get Paul's favorite color out of him unless he knows.
Let's not be ridiculous. It's it's clearly light blue. Yeah. open and shut case. If you pull up an old, here's why, here's what I knew I didn't trust LaFleur, and it was long before I knew how he was as a coach.
Find an old picture of him as a coach. And he's the nerdy guy with glasses. And like, he's a totally different person. And what I always distrust. from a distance Is someone who, once they get money or once they get status, drastically change the way they look?
It really bothers me because I think, like, why aren't you just you? Just be you, be confident in you. If you take cosplaying. Oh, yeah.
So that bothers me. And that's stupid, but like, I'm a fucking human with flaws. And like, I see that. I'm like, All right, like Maybe you can prove me wrong, but he's yet to. He's only affirmed what I thought, which is like.
Oh, like it's not, you're not you. You're a version of you, but I don't, you're not being authentic. And as soon as someone's not authentic, I'm like, ugh. I don't do with inauthenticity. I just, it bugs me.
I mean, I lose my haircut. That's really, it's a lot more than that. It's a lot more than that. I am a wreck. I am lazy.
I am a piece of shit. I am a nice guy. You're a real fool. I am Bart Winkler. Authentically you.
Matt LaFleur is Matt LaFleur is whatever. We can move on. Nobody likes this. Grant, is is there Grant tried to homer Simpson into the back wall over there. No, I just stretch, I stretch, but I hunge over.
Just like stretch every once in a while. And I'm sure a lot of these little oddities are why Bart and I, you know. I don't mind your theory, Paul. It's not like he got his, it's not like he got a facelift, he got a haircut.
Well, did he though? I mean, do you have, did he not get a facelift? Who knows? I don't know. Again, this is just, this is, this is just me.
And I just, I struggle when I feel like I'm being sold to. And I feel like I'm always being sold to with LaFleur. And so it's a much different reason than Bart. I think, or at least there's maybe some crossover, but that's he feels invincible, also. He feels like he thinks he's invincible.
Well, and then when that person, again, I'll speak generally. But when that person, in this case, it happens to be LeFleur. Is then, I'll borrow a phrase from a guy I know, rewarded for bad behavior. That bad behavior being. Fails.
on a very public stage and then his boss is like Bro, like I was always going to give you more money and more years. Like, what? Like that's one of those like Zoolander, like I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. We're seeing the world, Ed Policy and I, like in two totally different ways. And maybe Ed Policy was just saying what he was saying about like, it didn't matter the outcome of that Bears playoff game.
But again, he's there day to day, and there's more to it. And I have my own. you know, ways of looking at the world, but like that. To me, it is challenging when it's like that guy. failed in a very epic, grand public way.
and was reassured publicly like that it didn't matter. That that It didn't change the outcome of his future. And that's yucky. I don't like that. It's just yucky.
Two things. One, uh Jake recommended a new deodorant for me. Two. I'm happy to announce it is. not working uh to Two, Is People, the thing I've been, because I shit on the floor again.
But people keep saying, and you wonder why you're not on the radio. Like somehow, my Matt LaFleur opinion. Is like the insult they go with. No, I'm not on the radio because I got laid off. Yeah.
Parlayed that. Immediately. into a national job. Then I got laid off again. The reason I'm not on the radio right now is because I'm not worth the trouble that I provide.
Oh yeah.
Well, no, but to be clear. Nobody wants me to be their problem. But that could be my own problem. Who wants to be held accountable for the things I say, do, and tweet. I'll defend you for a moment though and say you're not currently on a national show because of the networks being merged and purchased.
You would have been in your third year of the national show if that didn't happen. Yeah. So maybe now that that has happened. No one wants to maybe, what as you know, I'll let you use your own words. If they offered me my same time slot.
I'd be like, actually I'm done with radio. No, you wouldn't.
Well, maybe you would. You're very principled. I just, I can't believe I worked those hours. Grant, is there a person you have not met but who is a public figure? Who you just saw, you didn't even hear him talk a lot, but you saw this person and you're like, don't trust him.
Like, I know Jimmy Fallon's a fuck. Never met him. I just know he sucks. I know that. There's no way around it.
Jimmy Fallon is a fucker. Like, he just, you just like, oh, I don't trust this asshole. He's putting on a performance. He's inauthentic. Go fuck yourself.
I can think of a couple. Yeah. Would you mind naming them if it's appropriate? I would mind. Yeah.
If no one of like, okay, fine. All right, fine. Bart, there must be. I mean, okay. All right.
I can I can I can s I can end with my Jimmy Fallon. That's fine. I mean, I've already said to everybody that I, there's not anybody that I don't like that you don't know about. Yeah. Okay.
This was somehow about the Packers leading Russia and then other trades. Fine, we'll just ask this: the NFL has seen its last major trade before the season. Or mm-mm. of the Miles Garrett A.J. Brown variety.
Mm-hmm. Or mm the NFL has seen its last major trade. before this. I'm going to not answer that question and instead say something else. Yeah.
These trades. Grant gave me a nod of like, good time. Does Josh sweat count? No. No.
Then I think, because I think anything from here on out will be kind of secondary. But I would say, but I would say, like. Elvin Kamara is not as highly paid nor as consequential. Yeah, but that's like but Kamara is a bigger name.
So, like, you would say, okay. Is he go at this point? I don't know. I think it's a bigger name. Again, is he as consequential to wins and losses?
I don't know. Let me put this in 90s TV for you. Wow. Like only you could. Yeah.
Elvin Kamara. It's like, you know, when a show's got its tent pull time, like. Eight o'clock on Tuesdays, Frasier or home improvement or whatever. Um If in like the seventh season, they're like, we're actually going to move it to Fridays at 7:30. Like to bury it.
It's like, okay. It doesn't it doesn't pop the same way it used to. It's fine. That you moved it. It's still on the network schedule, but it's not, it doesn't, that's like whatever.
Oh, Alvin Kamara got traded? has turned into Yeah, I guess Elvin Kamara got traded. I mean, even A.J. Brown did agree. Not Miles Garrett.
Myles Garrett, that piece of shit. I still think the reason that Miles Garrett's trade was a big deal. I'm just, he was all like, I'm never playing in Cleveland again. And then he got the money, and now he's fucking out of there right away. Again, reinforces the point like I messaged you guys yesterday.
Always take the money. The trade will happen at some point. Yes, it sucks because the NBA found this out years ago. And now the NFL is probably catching up. Although, to be fair to Miles Garrett, based on what's been reported, it's not like he was.
Dying to get out of there, and it doesn't sound like the Browns are dying to trade him. The Rams were trying forever and finally had to offer Jared Verse, which they probably didn't really want to do.
Well, how many guys on defense, though, can you have that are that good? Because remember, there's only one ball on the field. It's true. There's only one ball carrier to tag. One quarterback, one running back.
Grant, did I see you? Reply to something about Aaron Donald. I probably replied to something Bukowski said. Was it because it was Bukowski, or was it because it was Aaron Donald? Is there like smoke to this fire of Aaron Donald?
I don't know. This came up on Bill's show. I think that's a good thing. Pat McClough texted Aaron Donald, guys. Aaron Donald, I feel like, is unretiring.
You think he's unretiring? He's in play for three years. If I had to bet on it, yeah. Why not? He's still only like, what, 32 or something?
He retired a year. He was young, though. He's not he he's not coming back to play for the Detroit Lions. He can live in Los Angeles and play next to You know, he could be a rotational guy on a really good team. Get him on the Roger Clements schedule.
Remember when he pitched for the Astros where he only pitched home games? Yeah. Get him on the Brandon Woodruff schedule, which is, oh, I can't feel my arm. Let me take three months off and try to be ready for the playoffs because that's really all I want this year, anyways, which is fine. But that's totally what's happening.
Anyways. I asked a question about the last major trade, and then Bart asked a pivot. Oh, yeah, what was your pivot? I don't even remember now. What was the pivot?
My pivot didn't say it. Must have been real good. Yeah, I didn't say it. My pivot was. These trades happened.
But I was so consumed over the weekend with Milwaukee Panthers baseball. Mm. Um I stayed up late. On Sunday. And did a little thing, but I was like.
Had they won these games, I was going to be the post-game show. I was going to have players and coaches come on and shit. Oh, wow. And then they fucking lose them both. It's like I'm staying up late.
I'm like, I got to watch this game. But it's a great ride and I'll connect with them later in the week again. But that was my focus. Just like The weekend of WrestleMania? I was so focused on that.
That I miss like everything that happened with the Brewers. I can only do one thing at a time right now. I could like There's too much going on. Yeah. But you.
There's the Brewers. The NBA finals are starting. Almost thank God the Sabres aren't in the Stanley Cup because now I don't have to watch that shit. But the World Cup's starting. I'm like, I'm not going to know what happens with the Brewers for a fucking month.
I'm watching every single minute of this World Cup. I will miss. Grant, nerry a minute. Nari a one. Um I'm going to sound like I'm being an asshole.
I'm not. I was pointing out, like, you do have more time than the average bear to keep up with one. or two events at once. But it's more of like to me, what you're describing is like you are switched into soccer mode. Whether or not you have time to watch something else is irrelevant because your brain is all soccer.
Is that what you're saying? Yeah, like if you're at work and then someone texts you Hey, can you bring the coleslaw to the party on Friday? I can't fucking think about that now. I get it. I relate, by the way, I relate to what you're saying very much.
Hey, you see the brewers last? I can't think about the fucking brewers for the next month. I'm World Cup. Grand, it's how would I explain this in different ways? But like, if you have more of like, and don't let me speak for Bart, but I can speak for myself, like an obsessive.
Personality, if you really like to be consumed by a thing.
So since mid-April, my thing has been the NBA playoffs. Like, it was now strange to not have three nights of games. Like, that was, and you know, like, What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? Um Oh, there's a brewer's game on it.
Well, yeah, but... That's not what's happening right now. It's that there's supposed to be an NBA game on.
So. I can relate to like the on and off switch and like the so I can relate to this too. It's just I don't work that way with sports. Like I, when I go either. This is very new.
This is very new for me. I don't like it. I'll obsess over something, I obsess over things outside of sports all the time. Like that whole thing. But I I don't know.
I also like don't really care that much about the World Cup, so. I'll pay attention to it, but only if I can find ways where it serves my political agenda. I don't really care about the sport itself, which part I'm sharing. Yeah. So because it's in the North American Area that it won't be at strain.
I was like, business in the US, and then I remembered you said it was in Mexico and Canada, which I didn't know. North America. North America. That's what I changed it to in mid-thought.
So the game's going to be.
Well, it's not going to be like at 2 a.m. That was going to be my question.
So they're not going to be at strange times because they're going to. Europe's pissed.
Well, Europe also has been acquiesced to. Because, like, their games, I think the England games are going to be at 9 or 10 o'clock at night.
So there'll be about three o'clock here.
So they're going to.
So, like, you mean, so where's England playing? Which state?
Okay, cool. Or which area? Hopefully, New England and Foxborough. That'd be funny. Because I asked that question because, like, if you had a 10 p.m.
Mexican only plays in Albuquerque. If you had a 10 p.m. game on the East Coast... Can you even do that? Denmark plays in Denmark, Wisconsin.
Can you have the stadium open? Until 1 a.m. local time? Why not? I don't, there's there's things about that.
You couldn't do that at the Steve in Madison, that's for sure. No, Steve, don't go, don't have a speaker on past 9:30. There's gotta be, there has to be curfews. But like France.
Okay, so let me look at let me look at a day with four games. Um All right, Wednesday, next week, Wednesday, or two weeks from now, Portugal and Congo play in. Texas at noon. Got it. Those are words that have never been put together before in the history of human beings.
England and Croatia play at. Uh play in Dallas at three. Ghana and Panama.
So Ghana's got to stay up late. That's a six o'clock game in Toronto. And then Uzbekistan faces Colombia in Mexico City at nine. What's interesting with the United States games Is They played late as fuck. The 12th, they play at eight o'clock, I believe, in Seattle.
Eight o'clock central? Yeah, then they have a Then on the 19th, they do have a 2 o'clock game against Australia on a Friday. But then on the 25th, they play turkey at 9 p.m. Sure. On a Thursday night.
Yeah. So I thought those were looking because I thought they'd be. Oh, USA is going to be in fucking primetime 70. I'd love to know the reason that it's not. Like, who decreed it as such?
That doesn't make sense. You would think any sports bar Or sports restaurant in the country would want to have like it not be at 2 p.m. on a Friday or 9 p.m. I don't know, maybe that's okay. I don't know.
Well, if you want to watch the games at Tom's Watch Bar, affiliate link coming, and you can get. Tickets through me soon. Don't doesn't a bar where soccer is on isn't doesn't that become a pub? Isn't it don't you watch games at pubs? This goes back to Clark's comment about pitch versus field versus.
All my friends that live in Minneapolis that like the Prem, they go to the pubs on Saturday mornings and I have to read all their shit in our group chat.
Well, it depends. I would say the other, the ones I've been to, um, For previous World Cups. Three lions. I would say that's in River West, right? Kind of Shorewood.
Oh, red line. I'm thinking of Red Lion. Red Lion is a That's pubbish. Yeah, but I think three lines is more of a bar. The Nomad is a bar.
Bar. Is that on Brady? Highberry's a pub. There's no question about that. That's in Bayview.
Yeah. Anyway. I don't give a shit about this occurrence. I know. I like our country.
And I'm going to go fucking balls to the walls with World Cup coverage. And Subscriber rates are gonna plummet. I will learn from your podcast. But you will be my resource. I'm thinking about doing Maybe even pre and post.
Jeez. Count me out. Yeah. If the city of Milwaukee can do three different Brewers pre-games and a couple different post-games, I think we can do one pre- and post for World Cup. I think.
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Like the Packers pregame, you're driving home from church, you put it on. It's pretty self-explanatory. If it's on the affiliate that has the game. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
I understand what you mean then. Sure. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.
It's a pre-game. The post-game is. Conversation and let's not wait till the next day, and our listeners want a place to go. The pregame is just a fucking It's just an excuse to, I mean, it's just an excuse to get sponsors. for something they think no one's listening to this shit.
You know any Z-bard on deck shows I did that I could have said. I had sex with a banana last night. And no one would fucking hear it.
Now what? Did you ever test that theory? I don't want to talk more about this. I think he's testing it right now. All of those post-game and pre-game shows are just loaded with: let's go inside the box score presented by Palermos.
And then the host reads the numbers. It's like, I don't know. That's why I like Tim Allen. You know, like. Let's go down on the farm.
Yeah. Like, I liked when we did it, we had the roundtable where you'd call two of the different hosts and maybe somebody else. But it's like, oh, it can only be 10 minutes because we have to. We have to uh Play eye on the enemy. Yep.
Bart got an interview with Bronson Arroyo that we have to play.
So you guys have been play pretty well for the Reds. This year, is there a secret to your success? What about the Brewers? And you guys come here. Is there a big rivalry between you and the Brewers?
It's about the extent of it. Yeah, you know, every team's the same. You just get out there, you try to play. And you know, we see Milwaukee a lot, and they've been good. You know, we kind of see what's going on over here.
I had sex with a banana, and then we just went on from there. Oh, thank you, man. You should come up with a segment, I think, called Guess What They Said. In which before you play the clip. You use your Years of knowledge in the biz.
I thought that'd be copied by more people. That's a good fucking segment. It is. You should do it with Bill. Do it with Bill.
Guess what he said? No, guess what? Do my segment with Bill. Guess what they said? Have sound lights and see if Bill knows what they're going to say.
Bart, okay. We haven't mm-hmm in about 12 minutes, so let's just keep not mm-hmm. Um Oh no, what a deviation from our normal show. I know. It's your fault.
I come in ready with like an itinerary, and then you bust it up.
So we can go rapid fire by ourselves. No, no, hold on. I'll just ask you this while we record, and Tim can cut it and post if you don't like it. Wha why have you not carried through more of your National show segments that are so good. Like, you should be doing guess what they said.
And the bartometer and Like it's great. It was great content. It would still be great content. Like keep doing it. I think Shep was too load-bearing for a couple of them.
I don't know that it would live.
Well, yeah, Carlos did a lot of the work also on those. I know that's the part that scares you is like the the work of it.
Well, I just took you through my day. I had to take a nap. I know it's busy. I'm not sure. I step on the scale after everything I ate today.
Never do it after you eat. Do it in the morning. But, like, okay, as you should, as someone who listened to your national show, like, bring back those some of those segments. Bring back Barnack. At least do that.
Or what's in five for freemes? Jesus Christ. I will. There's really good stuff sitting there waiting for you. It's gross in there.
I'm getting refocused here. June 1st was my refocus day. Summer apart. Good. And I put all my eggs in the Milwaukee Panthers and then.
I got one 15-minute video out of that. And so, sure, I'll fucking, sure, sure. My soccer season's ending, I'll have more time. This is what you said. You said you needed something to like.
consume your brain and challenge you and Start bringing back all the classics. What else you got on your itinerary? Did we out to the Paul game? You should be an outback. Yeah, Horbot's in.
Speaking of a lot of work. Oh, I would, I'd pay for money for that episode. Not a lot, but you know, a couple of bucks. Like a solid $2.99. Yeah.
I'll put it together. Do you want?
Okay, Liza, okay, let's just talk through it. Tim, cut it and post if you want. Do we want it to be there are there are other versions do you want like the singing version? Do we want the radio clip version? Just fucking time is precious here.
Oh, like I would rather talk about this live. There's people who listen to this who think Tim's doing stuff. He's not. Um even flow right so right so Jordan Love There was the version where it was more like where Horvot one day named every single player on the 20 2006 Eastern Conference All-Star Roster. There was that version.
Then there was like the name that clip where I would play a clip of a broadcaster, and you'd have to name who the broadcaster was. There was the version with the songs and the singing. Do them all, Paul. Do them all. All right, we'll do them all.
Do we answer?
So, we don't think, Grant, there's no more big NFL trades coming. Was that where you fell? No, I think we're good. I don't even know what they're unless.
Somehow we hail married Jonathan Taylor or something stupid. That would be a major trade. And that'd be good for my fantasy team because then DJ Giddens can take over the snaps.
Okay. Of course, yes. We don't have to do too much on this, but I think there's been enough discussion about it that I did want to do my check-in with you guys. Giannis is a buck in July. Or mm-mm.
God, Jesus Christ. July 1st. The honest is a buck. Or but it's Seems more likely now than it did two weeks ago, or three weeks ago. Is it just because Haslam hasn't opened his mouth.
No, no, Giannis said something the other day. He's walking around. But I think I'm just buying his BS. I think he's mostly just given a slip service until the trade happens. Why is he everywhere?
I don't think that's an accident. Why he's how I mean, I feel like a fool that he's not on the Winklerverse. He's talking to every other fucking guy in the world. Yeah. He's everywhere.
He is. Everywhere. I've never seen Giannis this much, ever. Certainly not this season. Ask your brother about this and his NBA your NBA PR brother.
Giannis is controlling the message. But there's not really any message that he needs to fight back against. He's just out there. There absolutely is. I've seen enough people on Twitter now say, like.
Oh, you know, like it's clear to me, like, if Giannis gets traded, it's not because he wanted to. This is clearly not a guy, this is clearly not a guy who was requesting a trade, he's absolutely. Controlling the message and telling you what he wants you to think is the case. When he gets traded, he wants to be able to say, Well, I love it here. They didn't want to keep me.
Like, that's that's sure. Yes, he's trying to spin that. I don't know if he needs to drive in to see him. He's getting ahead of it before it happens so that he can say retrospectively, like, well, even before the trade happened, I was. Really excited about this restaurant of mine that they said they were going to open.
And, you know, like you're planting seeds. By the way, odds for Chet Holmgren's team have come out. Bucks four to one are the frontrunners. Cavs five to one. Ahead of staying with OKC.
Are the Bucks ahead of OKC? If traded, if traded. If traded, okay. Azure box number one on that? They're number one on that, then the Cavs and the Raptors.
There's only one reason I don't want Chet Holmbren on the Bucks. Jalen Williams, 3-1, and Bucs, 4-1. I know the reason. Say it. I will, because I will say it.
I think you're going to get it right. Yeah, I am gonna get it right. I see it. Because no one here can pronounce homegrown. Absolutely fucking lootly correct.
Ding, ding, ding. Even Reggie Miller and his r fucking homegrum. Like someone produced this fucking guy. Like, Reggie, Holmgren, Holmgren. Here's a couple of children.
It's not that hard. Here's a good topic. Reggie Myler, like fucking it. That's what you should get. You should be Reggie Myler.
Which announcer? Cause Reggie Miller is this guy. My Which announcer Who does not have the skills? That he should have to be. In his But when he's on the game, it's like, oh, this is a big game.
Like Reggie, when Reggie Miller's on the broadcast. Yeah, he might not be that good of an announcer. But it's a big fucking deal and he's it's Reggie Miller man Who's on your team? Who's the NBA? I want to answer your question, but who's the NBA Finals broadcasting crew?
Breen like Breen and Legler and Do they have a third with them? And Richard Jessian loves that we don't know that, by the way. Is it Richard Jefferson as the third with Legler and Breen?
So I'll say this before I answer: I love Jamal Crawford on broadcast. Have you guys watched? I mean, I like it. I obsessed in the NBA playoffs like I do every year. It's a great product.
He's fucking great. He's the third with Reggie Myler and... Um my ter Mike Tarico. Um He's really, really good. Jamal Crawford, I wish he was on the game.
I think as someone who genuinely just fucking hated Mark Jackson. and him just ecstatic that he's not in a game. When he had a game with Van Gundy, it was like, oh, this is a big game. No, they ruined it. No, they ruined it.
But it felt big because they were together. I think If we're crossing over another sports, The way they produce Sunday Night Football with Collinsworth always feels big. And he's good. He's good. Sure, I understand that.
Okay, so I guess that's outside of your question, Lane.
Well, you don't learn anything from him? Fucking nerd.
Sorry. I learned from Collinsworth.
Okay. I like Collins Words. I don't I just with Collins Words, I don't think that anyone sees a play. The time before what he sees and what he breaks down is quicker than anybody. Ooh, I like that.
That's what I've always liked about Collinsworth. Oh, look at this. Like, he's here we go before they can get the replay on the screen. He's rearing to go. Like, I don't think Tony Romo sounds big game even anymore.
See, I was going to say, I don't think Romo has the skill, but that game's big. Really? Roma's on it? I think he could if he wanted to, if he tried. I can't believe you're.
Favorite duo In the history of sports grant hasn't been mentioned yet. Don't we think Buckman and Aikman sound like a big game feel? Oh, they do, but they're elite. Aikman's elite. They're also on ESPN now, which like hampers the music doesn't feel as big, the time slot doesn't feel as big, the matchups oftentimes don't feel as big.
Troy is so good. I regret ever hating him as a player. He's so fucking good, man. Again, I'm ecstatic that Doris Burke is gone. Like, they've gotten rid of a lot of people.
Who have ruined big games in the NBA?
So, Mark Jackson. They did Doris Burke dirty. I don't give a fuck. She's a good analyst, and they tried to, like, they wanted her to be Mark Jackson, which is where, like, you just need funny sayings and, you know. You think that was produced to her and not just her own, like, I'm cool now?
I'm going to call it getting to the cup every fucking day. Are you saying she had a LaFleur arc to her? I'm saying, I, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to, I haven't thought about it. I don't think you're giving Doris Burke enough credit.
Why did she have to so what you're saying though? Is you're saying that you think she was told to be fun and come. They needed someone to do it. Who was she always with? Breen and was it Reddick?
Were you watching the night Breen had to call back his bang? Yes.
That was the Sam Merrill thing. That was fucking like, I'll remember where I was. He upholded a bang. You said it, and I immediately remembered it was Sam Merrill. Oh!
Which which was the difference between the calves getting swept? And like limping into the postseason or into very inconsequential play for what it's worth in the grand scheme of the NBA. I'm a I don't know. I mean I'm a journalist, so I don't do predictions, but do you guys have an NBA finals prediction? Good.
This feels like uh Celtics, warriors, and 22. to me. In what way? In that the Spurs are the Celtics, and then I think they're younger and better. But I don't know that they have the No that they have the makeup.
The Warriors had the makeup. I'll answer the question in the sense of this will tell me a lot about NBA playoff attrition. Like I'm gonna leave this NBA finals deciding like how important. sweeping your way through and just being super well rested is. I think this is like a A very important moment for that because you have the Spurs who are Should be exhausting.
They're so much younger, though. That's the thing. Like, does the lack of rest or the rest efficiency affect the Spurs the way that it would a normal opponent? To me, it's going to come down to the guys like we're going to be talking about Brunson and Cat and Wemby. It's going to come down to like the Darren Parkers versus the Josh Harts.
Which of those guys can do the things that show up not necessarily in the box score? That's going to be my X factor in this series. Why do people listen to this shit? Why? Why do fucking people do that?
Why do people listen to that? What the fuck? Why do we do it? Which coach do you make that at? Who's more adjustments?
Who's making adjustments? I would like to know which goes. And also, it's a make or miss league.
So, I mean, it's probably going to come down to who makes more threes. The less kind of shit we say, the better this is. Paul talking about attrition, that's something. Me talking about matchups? I don't fucking know.
Why don't you play? And then I'll. I hate pregame. I fuck see. Maybe I just hate pregame because I go, oh, who's gonna?
Where's the linebacker going to go? I don't fucking know. Why don't we just see what happens? Then we'll talk about it. I used to love, as a younger, a younger person, love the NFL.
At Sunday at 10. Till noon, pregame for two hours. And in the past, I don't know, 20 years, I. I And I mean this literally, like, there's a number on it. You could pay me to watch it.
The number exists, but I'm certainly not doing it for free. And there's not like a low amount where it's like, I'll give you 10 bucks if you watch two hours of pregame. But I'm like, no. You have a family now. But regardless, there's other things.
Pregame is for the person who wishes football would start, but it hasn't yet.
So we settle for the next best thing. I guess, but like, it's just not good content. Go to church, heathens. Yeah. Let God be your pregame.
Yeah. Guys, I got to wrap this up. My basement is flooding. For those listening on pod, we just had the pleasure of seeing Bart with his arms out. Dude!
I don't get it. And I used to be very secretive about this, but. Like, there's no way I'll go to the park like this in person, but I'll broadcast this to whoever wants to fucking see it. Are you warm? I'm just, I'm leaking.
I am fucking leaking. Is your, this is, so, is this like a genetic thing? Please. Do your parents and brothers all have this affliction? No.
Really, it's just you. Look at that. That's ghastly. Yeah, I would really appreciate like. All right.
Bring back classic shirt has fucking eyes, dude. It's coming into your neck. I know. I got a cold. I know.
I'm fucking sweating. Bring back classic segments, please. God damn it. What about Bart Kreiser? I was just wondering why he hasn't made an appearance, but okay.
He has to. He's been forced to. Yeah. Thanks for stopping into the Winklerverse. Snoring?
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