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I'm Bart Winkler. Grant Bills is alongside. And uh Paul Ivig. Is here as well. For your random Tuesday.
I think a lot of people, I think this is a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday listen for a lot of people.
So whatever day of the week it is. Um I don't know. What has totally happened in the Brewers Cub series, but I know that I'm mad about it no matter what, because I'm either mad that the Brewers lost some games. Or I'm mad that, you know, the the Brewers put out a post. That said, won this game for the beautiful city of Green Bay.
Solid. And then I saw Cubs fans. The same way they did it with the elf leg to try to turn. uh the reverse pit bull, a positive into a negative. That's the song.
Turn a negative into a positive. I want you to give me everything tonight. We had one bachelor party weekend at the Dells where we just played that over and over on fucking repeat. My nano. That is a jam.
I'm sure you're shocked to learn I don't know what you're talking about. If like the overall of my friend group. Had a soundtrack for our lives. Three songs that would be on it is Give Me Everything by Pitbull. Return of the Mac by Mark Morrison.
Great song. And Timber with Katy Perry featuring pitbull. Wow. Those are three. Oh, and piano man, because we didn't make it way.
Or is that Kesha? Is that Katy Perry or Kesha? Timber's not Katy Perry. I mean, Katie Perry. Oh, Timber's Kesha.
What an incredible song. I'm not arguing. I just want to make sure I have the right one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry.
Timber is Kesha. At my wedding. That was the song that everybody. We like waited for it. That was my, these are still the songs that everyone waits for at weddings, all of them.
But we were like. You know, I invent everything. We were like the first wedding to marry me. I think Um So anyway, then I saw Cubs fans be like. Oh, your baseball team needs to stand up for your football team?
How pathetic. There's just so there's so many Cubs fans. There's so many of them. That you can't win a war. And they treat it like war.
They treat. They treat this like war. They they went from we're not rivals to We are enemies on the battle lines. And I don't really need to talk about it much more unless you have any, I just wanted to mention it. It infuriates me.
But this is another thing where I have to use the river strategy. I can't stop this.
So many things in my life, I think, oh, I'll just tweet about it and it will stop. The the answer should be I should stop tweeting is what the answer But then how then what will you do with your $36 each quarter? What will I do with the six hours a day that I will have free once I get off this godforsaken? Website. Anyway.
The other thing I wanted to mention is Thunder Spurs. Paul, I'm assuming you've seen it. Shut up. Shut up. Go ahead.
I'm just kidding. You are? I'm good as of More recently than most people. That's why he was six minutes late to start recording. No, it's not, but it is a reason why, amongst a couple of reasons, but.
I have to kind of stay. I'm always behind on NBA playoffs, and I really, really like NBA playoffs.
So I just. I'm not a text pile up guy unless I'm behind on sports because 80% of the text I'm going to get are someone saying something about a sports. I'm like, I'll look at this when I'm caught up.
So when did you watch the game?
Well um Well, Grant, this would be different than how I answered your question last week. But I fell asleep early. I was like first quarter in the game and fell asleep. Wow. Finish that thing at 4.30.
A.M. A.M. Yeah, you talk about text chains piling up. You were noticeably quiet last night when I was saying things like, I wouldn't feel anything if this entire Thunder team died in a bus crash because I lose so badly. And when I was saying things like, I think that Bree Chick is fine.
Yeah, Paul's MIA.
Sorry. She likes her team. What the fuck? We are caught up. She goes to games.
What's there to hate?
Okay, we're all caught up. Where were you going with that, Bart? Thunder Spurs? Yeah, so the Spurs, let's say they win this series. Is Giannis going to be the KD to?
Shay Steph? It has to be an option you strongly consider. Unless you're again, it's one game. But unless and Because why did the Warriors get KD? Because they couldn't beat LeBron anymore.
Correct.
So they need somebody to. Match him. And now, if they can't beat Wemby. You get Giannis. Jalen Williams will call Giannis from the car after game six of this series.
The Bucks are going to have to, and you know who we're getting back in that trade is like the fucking worst of the guys. Like, but even if it was Alex Caruso and no interest. No, but also but also that wouldn't even make sense. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh.
That was my Alex Caruso impression, putting the hand in front of the camera. Is that what he did? Yeah, the post-game, you can't fit enough thunder in the fucking. screen to do an interview. But they want to do a normal camera shot during the game.
Headband man says no sir. No sir to you sir. I haven't, you know, the cap math aside and figuring out the right pieces that make that trade work. If it was I mean, can can you, let's say the Thunder loses six, okay, and we're far, way away from that. But if that were to happen.
Is a Jalen Williams A.J. Mitchell package fixed? Feasible if you're the bucks. That's what Ozarski. That's kind of what he spitballed on Bill's show earlier today.
Loosely, loosely. But those names? Yes. Oh, I mean, I mean, that gives me some, because that's been the, those been the one. If the Thunder failed, this is even before the series started, but if they go down in the conference finals with San Antonio and you can get a Jalen Williams, A.J.
Mitchell package, you fucking run that shit to like the phone. Like, you got to get that into Adam Silver before.
Okay, so he can change his mind. That would be unbelievable. I don't want Jalen Williams, but someone else maybe would take him. I would ship him. I don't like him.
I mean, I know he likes OKC, so he's like almost like spoiled by, or there's. He's going to have a taste on him, right? You're not going to want because he was a Thunder player. He was an all-star, right? Last year, the previous season, right?
Um, this year he was injured mostly. Jet was an all-star. Right. In all seriousness, that would be a good trade. You don't even need draft picks then.
And picks, and you would get picks. I don't think so. I think at the I'm leaving here with some picks. I think at the very least, if the Thunder lose, it's one more potential team that could be interested in Giannis, which can only be good. That can only be good, even if the Thunder don't trade for him.
It can only be good that there's another team at least. Because now the conversation is. You know what? After all, it doesn't look like anyone's going to be able to trade for Yannis. No one's got the pieces.
Yeah, but I mean, it's like there are teams who have bowed out earlier than they thought they should have. like Minnesota where There's no There's no Minnesota package that makes sense. at all. And even like, okay, yeah, but there'd be a third team. Like, yeah, but then Minnesota is.
It just doesn't work. Houston buying out early. Wonderful news. Like, that's agreed. That's a wonderful thing to have happened.
Yeah, but again, again, that's the whole thing where the Atlanta Hawks three-way trade and Jalen Johnson in the pick, and whatever else comes into play. But The the Prime best version of any of this. For basketball And for the Bucs is that OKC loses to San Antonio. And then you get. You get the one guy who can fit.
If they win, we're just going to shit on him like we shit on KD. KD gets no. They needed KD. Oh, well, that's great. If he goes, he gets no credit.
Those titles won't even like no, those could get no credit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably because KD won two. They trained, he won two MVPs. Warriors fans don't even like accept him.
I don't agree.
Well, I mean, it's not. The part I don't agree with Is you don't agree with Warriors fans, Paul? Durand had a choice. and went directly to the team who he couldn't beat. with full autonomy to do whatever he wanted.
This is not yeah, remember free agency? God, that was insane. That used to be a thing. Wow, you're right. I mean, every July 4th was just like July 4th was just being at a.
Fourth of July parade and waiting for like the next. Twitter notification that there's an NBA signing.
So, but in this case, obviously, Giannis not only would be going to a different conference, but then, like, didn't say, I've got to go to the thunder. Or at least not yet. He hasn't said that.
So. He would get Less credit, obviously, than if he took. A team where he wasn't You know, like the last piece. Sure. But I don't know.
KD was younger though, too. How old was KD when he went to the 20? Yeah. Six? Yeah.
26 or 7, maybe. But again, even if he doesn't end up going to the Thunder. Let's say the Hawks are really interested, right? And they're like, well, we'd like him, but we're not going to blow the thing up to get him. And if the Thunder are in the market, it's like, well, we got.
You want more teams interested. Yeah. You don't just want it to feel like, well, it's the Hawks or nothing, because that's not going to get you the best return. And that's happening too. Like the NBA playoffs have played out nicely and would play out extremely well for the Bucs.
If the thunder lose in the conference finals, I mean, America would win, the Bucks would win, but America would win. We'd all win if the Thunder were let me ask that about the Thunder, and I've brought this up before, but like. I don't like them. And no one does. Even looking at the fans going crazy, like, no one likes them.
Um Is that because they're a one-team town for some reason? I think it's still. My theory is still that the Sonics haven't come back yet. But we liked the Durant, Harden, Westbrook. Everybody liked that team, though, right?
I remember them being cool. I did. I mean, I did too. Yeah, maybe. The colors were cool.
I always liked the. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't sure. The Sonics theory I had was. The Sonics theory I had was like, 'cause the Ravens, we don't. We don't look at the Ravens and be like, look what you did to Cleveland, because the Browns came back in three years.
But until the Sonics come back, it's been 20 years of look what you did to Seattle. That still lingers. Maybe that's. But you're right. I don't think people were really anti that KD Russ part in.
In fact, people liked them. This Thunder team. I think what's wrong with this Thunder team. Is like what's wrong with everything we hate. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Is that. It feels manufactured. For your enjoyment. No, it feels like it's. It just feels like corporate.
It feels like the NBA designed what they think fans would want in a team with guys doing commercials in the post-game. And maybe it's just not the right. guys for this like I don't know. I think if Shay's still on the Clippers, we like him. I think.
People liked Chet in college, didn't they? Were we not?
Well, kinda. He was always like, you know, the the They play hard. Dort, Lou Dort. Who hates Lou Dort? Everyone hates Lou Dort.
He's dirty. He's a dirty player. But see, I thought what you were saying is they're the embodiment of everything we hate. They tanked their ass off to build this team. We hate tanking.
They flop constantly. We hate flopping. I'm with you on the flopping, and obviously, the Shea follow-drawing nonsense. Wait, I'd have to go back and look at the history of their quote-unquote tanking, though, because they tried to build the Russell Westbrook Paul George Thunder. It went disastrously.
They got the shea package from the Clippers for Paul George. I forget exactly. I look back what the trade component was to trade then Russell Westbrook not long after, but like, yeah, they stung for a couple of years, but Sam Presty. I mean there It's one of those things where like, when you look in the history books of the way you build a franchise, like he did everything right.
So, like, the thing I give the Thunder credit for, and the reason I don't dislike them. As structurally as Bart, you seem to, for sure. is like they did everything right. They just happened to have a superstar. Who flops who like You know, it's very like the stuff that I always disliked about watching James Harden, which is like he's clearly trying to draw a foul, like Trey Young does.
But Shea is bigger than Trey Young and then James Harding. He doesn't need to do it. And it is bad basketball. Do we all hate the Thunder because we just hate Shea? I mean, again, when you're two-time MVP best player.
Who dominates the ball and has like a 35, 40% usage rate is the guy he is. Yes, it's going to reflect on the rest of the team. I don't have the distaste for the thunder that, I mean, I get the shade distaste. I don't know if I get the thunder other than like, Grant, to your point, some people, myself included, I don't like dynasties. I'm the the thunder beat i was ruined against them like the bucks were the spurs Like, I was surprised by that.
I was surprised by it. I felt a little bit of that. But again, that's kind of one of those things where, like, last year, Bart, I think I can speak for you too, because it was true of me. I was a big Knicks fan last year because it was fun. Like, it was like there was some underdog-ness to them, and you could kind of kind of see what had been made and the way that they had done it.
And then when I'm watching them play against Atlanta in the first round, I'm like, no, what series was that? Who was first round? Was that right? Yeah. Yeah, Atlanta.
I was like, oh, CJ McCollum with the game when he bucket. Like, let's go. Let's, you know, let's beat the Knicks.
So. I don't, I don't know. My Thunderdist taste doesn't match the two of you.
Well, and mine is too. I only have room. Um in my heart for for one thunder. And if I'm going to pick one, it's got to be. Country Thunder coming this July.
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Thank you guys. The real, the real trio there. You know, you know, something that I don't like about the thunder that stems from last year. I think we talked about this.
So, Justin Garcia. That Shabuzzi's not headlining. Friend of your show, Justin Garcia. UWL guy. He told me he likes dynasties because it means if you've beaten a dynasty to win a title, you've accomplished something.
It means more. It means more. You had to slay this dragon. And last year, I think we all watched Shay and the Thunders march to the title. We're like, okay, I don't think anyone wanted to discredit what the Thunder did.
But Us as Bucks fans, what we watched Giannis do, or what Cavs fans had to watch LeBron do, or Warriors fans with Steph in 22, like. We have normally the mountain to climb in the NBA is: you need to do something otherworldly as the best player on a title team. Like, you need to do something that, like, I'll never forget what Giannis did. That used to be the bar. And I watched Shea last year, I'm like, He was fine.
Like, even last night, you know what I mean? Like, he was their third leading scorer last night. He was kind of just mad. And that's never really flown before. That's never.
That's never been able to be the way the leading man on a team can win a title.
So that rubbed me the wrong way last year, too. It's not really his fault, it's just kind of the way the league has changed.
Well, good conversation, guys.
Well, actually, the two that I have are it couldn't, it couldn't have been more perfect. Great. I think are we getting into the topical portion? I don't know. We're.
A little clunky here, Tim. Tim? No, I mean I was gonna say Tim. And then I was going to have him here just on standby. Just in your basement.
But then that would mean I'd have to Like, have Tim here, and probably he'd come over earlier, and I'd have to entertain him and shit. No, I think you should just get a just shoot a 10-second video of Tim. Where it just says, I'm on it. What do you want me to do? You're so stupid, Bart.
I'm on it, Bart. And then, like, so every time you say Tim. You just quick insert the video clip. What is it you want? What is it, Bob?
Like a little Tim Shea had to pop up in the bottom. No, it's like Andy Richter sitting two spots down behind your desk, and we just can't see him in the frame. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um There's actually two topics that are close to this, and I'm really excited about both. Um, a bit off the have you tested these?
not tested them I asked. I asked a good, good buddy, like, does this what do you think who listens to the show? Yeah. What do you think about this one? And let me know why.
Why don't I just tell you exactly what he said? I think that's great, fun exercise, and Grant will have to change his underwear just thinking about it. Wow. So let's do that one first. And this is a Giannis topic.
But it's It's also not.
So if you were about to be traded. Slash forced to move to some currently unknown US location. And you have a weak. Left to have the Wisconsin experience. Where and how are you spending it?
I'm not even gonna try to mm-hmm this. I just want to have a conversation about, like, you know, Giannis, we talked about like Tom's drive-in and about the Milwaukee Zoo. I don't know if you saw the WISN 12 Instagram thing that he was at Cedarburg Gymnastics.
So, Like I saw it.
So Clearly, there's probably none of these would be in like grands. But you guys are like really We were all born and raised in Wisconsin, but you guys are.
Well-traveled Wisconsinite.
So let's pull out the map since I've got props at galore today.
So you've got a week. And you know, you're going to have people because you're a. You're a well-known guy in the state, and everywhere you go, people are going to take a picture of you picking up your ice cream. you know watching the flips and all the things so You've got a week. You're about to be living in.
Miami or Oklahoma City or somewhere else, but you've got to get in all the Wisconsin stuff. In the next week. Where are you going? What are you doing? Are we doing one city a day or can we?
I mean, it's got to be a realistic day, right? If you want to like say, you can't magically my first answer is seven straight days perched at Dell's. I wonder if you're going to know. Fully up in the north. Just do a bender.
Just lock in for seven days at Dell's. Not even leave for sunlight. Sleep there, poop there. I guess not shower. I don't know how you're going to clean yourself.
That's not, I mean, that's not part of the equation.
So, if you want to just rock all seven days showerless at Dell's, like. I think you're a lot of people.
So I'm thinking. Um You gotta hit all the spots. You're not gonna live here for a while.
Now it's the question is. Are you satisfied with what you've done? Or do you need to do it again one more time? Like. Do I need to go to Fondu Lac one more time?
I was in Fond du Lac this week. The answer is no. Although, when I drove through Fondu Lac, they have like America 250 signage everywhere. Nice. It's like the one town on earth that is celebrating it.
Um What would I do? I think one thing I would see, one thing I would want to do is I would want to go to my buddy's cabin. Off of somewhere over in the red granite area. Because I really love that area and that lake that he's on. I'll keep the lake to myself.
I would want to, I would probably. I think I might just spend two days. One thing I say is that I've been to 90% of the roads in this state. Like I said, like you two are so perfect for this because of the way you've traveled the state.
Now there are blind spots for me. I think like I've been around here, but like this is a blind spot for me. Oh, that's well, we can go together. That's my fucking strike zone. Superior, I think I was at, I was there was a long time ago.
Mm-hmm. I think I would just draw so I would get on 94. 50 go up 53 for Ma'a Claire if you want to hit that. That'll take you where you need to go. La Cross would absolutely be.
How many days? Out of seven? Out of seven. I don't know. I would need an overnight.
Yeah. Because of the drinking. Good delivery. I would, God, what else would I want to do? By the way, don't forget, you're also moving your wife and kid.
So, like, if there's any things that they needed to see or they needed to do, I mean, you can be a selfish asshole. That's a different equation. That's a different equation. The whole family's moving. The whole family's moving.
Because then I'd want to be like, let's go see where your mom used to live in Wausau. Let's go see Mildhouse. I think that has to be part of the equation.
Now, Grant can do whatever he wants. We would have to account for. you know, what like, okay, the the kid's gonna wanna do this one more time, the wife's gonna wanna do that one more time. I'll tell you where I would not go. Tom's driving.
Cedarburg Gymnastics. Yeah, all of the things that Giannis has been doing. I would go to Okay, does it uh is it week specific? Yeah. Because, like, I'd hit up the Cheese Festival in Monroe and some shit like that, you know?
We can be a little bit, we can be a little bit more. Like the strawberry days and wherever that fucking that is. Play fast and loose with that. Yeah, I like that you can play fast and lose. Yeah.
It's got to be like a summer thing, though. You can't say a winter thing. You're getting traded this summer.
Okay. I would skip Door County, absolutely skip. Ball Noah. Good. In fact, I don't want to I don't want to even If I have one week left in Wisconsin.
One week. I don't even want to accidentally, like, I want to, I don't want, I don't even be on roads with like traffic where people that. Breathed in air in the Fox cities within hold onto it, like breathe it out wherever I am. I don't want to fucking touch. Fox Cities.
My whole life's been in the Fox Cities. Sure. This I with a The fuck with not the be all PCA, but the Fox Cities can suck my dick. The fuck cities. Grant, good call back.
The Fox cities, these fucking people.
Well, that was, you went to New York on that.
So I don't need to do much in Milwaukee, but I would. I would have one last great Milwaukee day. Go to some of the places I have. I haven't been to Wolskies and shit like that. Would you close it?
Yeah. Isn't that the bumper sticker? I'd be like, put on one of those bumper stickers. Would I need to go to Madison? I think I would.
I would want to do, so without being, I would want to hit a small town festival of a place I haven't been. Oh, interesting. I would want to hit a Northwoods League game at a stadium I haven't been. Oh, wow.
Okay. I would want a Milwaukee Day. I would want a Madison area day. I would want A lacrosse day. I would want a day where I just like.
start down in the north or the southwest corner. And just like drive up. Around just meander. And then I would come over. I want to like ride the border, is kind of what I want to do.
Take two, go up to two over, and then come back down. Yeah. You gotta hit the Grant Bills interchange. Oh yeah. How do you think I'm getting a little cross?
Is that what it's called? Basically I would, I didn't name it. Basically, the the the state's my playground in that scenario other than Other than really the 920, I want to Totally avoid the 920 where I was born, raised, and spent way too much of my life. And Sheboygan, and all of that. That was a long answer, but hopefully a great one.
Grant, you're about to be traded this summer. You're moving to parts unknown. You've got a week in Wisconsin. Where are you going? What are you doing?
What's on your agenda? I think of seven days. I would spend Two full days and a night in lacrosse. I would go there by way of, I would go from Madison to Veroco and come up the underside through the beautiful hills of the Driftless region. Would you spend any time at Norse Gedallion?
Yeah, yeah. I hit that on the way in. Oh, yeah, okay. The Wesby ski jump. Um I would probably then go up to my hometown.
I'd spend a day and a half-ish. Around Eau Claire, the Chippewa Valley. I would go straight up to Superior on 53 and over on two. And then I would probably swoop down. I don't need to ride the border of the UP.
I don't need to be that far up.
So I'd get around midway and then I'd want to come back down, kind of. Gone toward Marathon County. I want at least one day.
Somewhere up in that top area. Mm-hmm. Where when you put a radio out. You only get like one station, and it's country music, and it's either the wolf, the eagle, or something like that. Mm-hmm.
And then on Saturday mornings, they do swap shop. See that. If you go a little bit farther south, it would be the bog. You know what I mean? If you're somewhere around Toma.
I would end in I would end in lacrosse. Yeah. By yourself or with the fam? Don't make him answer that. Why?
Okay. What? Every Yannis trip so far, again, this is the reference point, has been like. With the families, we don't know, we haven't seen any Gianna Solo adventures. That's what I'm saying.
True. We don't know if he went up to fucking. Spooner for a day by himself. Yeah, he drove up to Wausau by himself. You know, neither of you.
Well, okay, Grant's still building his, so I won't. No, I, it's mostly a. I don't know. I'd wanna spend a day in Madison. I I do really like Madison.
How many cities in Wisconsin do you think? Giannis could go to where nobody fucking even knows who he is. I think it's that whole upper region that you're just referencing. I think he could walk around in Sulan Springs or Minong around the Jack Links beef jerky factory. I think he could.
He wouldn't blend in, but I don't think people would know who he was. Hi, I'm Giannis. I'm with the Bucks. And I'll tell you what, there, the only buck I know is the 30-pointer I shot last two summers ago there. Uh, two with my buddy Tom Dow.
You know, Tom, he lives down the street there. Allergic to ice cream, this son of a bitch. Can't trust a man that's allergic to lactose. We always for his birthday, we always go and give him ice cream sandwiches. Oh, it's a hoot.
I was literally gonna, if you didn't say what you said, I was like, oh, it was a real hoot. Neither of you guys mentioned anything about Lambo Field or or like the the And they're done that.
Okay, so you don't need one more trip.
So it's not your Giannis. It's not your Giannis' time driving. You've had your fill. You're good. You've had your your Lambo experiences.
Okay. I like going to Lambo. I don't ever need to be there again. Yeah. Interesting.
I'm actually surprised. You're a shareholder. I mean, own the team. Here's the thing: Wrigley is cool in the same way that Lambo is cool. The thing about Wrigley is.
It's summer, and before and after the game, I can walk around and There's things. going on. Sure. Lambo is just, it's there. And I know, I know, green.
It's got to be a game, though. But what if it's like a training camp day where you can go by the bleachers and then. Grant's nodding. He didn't seem as. Annoyed training camp day, but I need people.
It's like going to Packers training camp is like. The l the Duh. No. I don't enjoy that. There needs to be parties.
There needs to be people like way too often when I've been at Lambeau, admittedly not for gays. I've been there for work the last couple of times. It's like, let's go to Anduzi's and have one. And then you go over there and it's like. It's just bleak.
It's just fucking bleak. They come alive on Sundays, but every other day it's like. Oh, so this is just like an Applebee's in portage on a same crowd you'd get in the church basement at the Knights of Columbus fish fry. It's the same.
So, yeah, being there for a game is great. You know, this is why this is why I see what I said the other week ago is like. The other week ago? Yeah, the other week ago. He's still the guy up in Toma right now.
I think I'm always that guy. With the friend who's allergic to. What if I moved to Cleveland? I was on a station in Ohio. What are some cat-missed things you'd have to do in Ohio, Bart?
Uh I would go to Canton. I guess I would see the Rock and Roll Museum. Yeah, I get your point. I mean, I'm wearing a fucking dock spider's hat and a Luke Combs. I brought my, this is actually a really comfy shirt, and it's a great like shirt to wear around the house before I put out a shittier shirt to wear outside that I can sweat through this one.
See? You are the sweatiest man I've ever met. And it's getting worse. Yeah. I didn't tell you.
I was talking to Grant before. You know, you were finishing the Spurs game and got in here. I had to go, I took a shower. When did we start? Two?
I took a shower at 1:30. I even tried not to take a hot shower. And then I got out, and I have this big fan I stood in front of for. Five minutes. It's never enough.
It's never enough. I had to go into my car, turn it on, and just blow the fucking AC in my face to cool down. It has been muggy, to be fair. This must just be torture for well, I wasn't going to turn the air on, but I did. Of course, all my windows are also open.
It's not the heat, it's the gosh darn humidity. It really is.
Sorry, this is a. stream of consciousness thought. Happy birthday. Is it your birthday today? Oh fuck.
Happy birthday. Happy birthday. That's true. Yeah. Oh shit.
I was going to text you and then I said, well, I'll just tell them what I. When we do the podcast, and then I forgot. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.
There's no, there's, you don't need to, I mean, you don't need to do anything. The big four, too. I wasn't going to do anything, but I could have, I could have said it. Could have said it. You being here.
With me.
Okay. What what I got a great day. I took my kid to school. I took a fucking nap immediately. I had a lot to do today, but I just was like, fuck it.
This is my day. I'm planning out my one week before I get traded Wisconsin map. You know, you know, my mother-in-law sent me a $100 check, which I really need right now. Honestly, I feel like I'm 21 again, like, needing money. And I haven't cashed it yet because I'm like building up for the moment to take the picture.
I'm like, you know, because once you cash, it's like, oh, that hundred bucks. I got 100 bucks upstairs. I got soccer practice tonight. I still got to figure out what to do for that. It's big.
Oh, you know what my kids said? My kids said. Because he's so in the WWE. And the 2K video game. He's like.
Daddy, Daddy, I got something for your birthday. I got an idea. Great idea, Daddy. What's that, bud? You can pick what kind of match we play when we play 2K today.
I was like. The real present would be I never have to play this fucking game again, son. Do you not like it? I just wish he could, he can't. I just wish he would play it by himself.
You will love it. No, you will long for the part. I know, I know, I know, I know. I know. He's already calling me dad more than daddy.
Fucking sucks. God, it sucks. Anyway, thanks. Pretty soon you're Can we dropping them off at college? All right, let's move on.
33 years old today. Anything else for the state of Wisconsin, what you do, or should we call it there? I would like to hire a boat captain to sail me around one of the Great Lakes. I love it. If you didn't mention the Dells.
So, a couple of things that were mentioned, and I know I didn't like, we can kind of take this premise, you know, there's some. Ability to why don't you guys drop in the comments what you would do? For Bart's birthday, let's really engagement farm this motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bart's birthday.
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Well, people are like, how can I contribute? Be able to, I don't know. I never want to charge for my content, it's not that good. And then they say, Well, can I give you like five bucks? Sure.
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So $399. Precisely. What did we miss, Paul?
So, again, what I was going to say is: you are someone of notoriety. Paul's probably like, I would do a brewery tour. I would go to the Dells. Wow. I would eat at Wild Tomato.
Is that in Door County? I think you know me well enough to a brewery tour would not be on my list. Root Beer Tour, Sprecker. Sprecker, sorry. Yes.
Brewery tours would be so great if they didn't become America's daycare centers. I'm mostly out on breweries for that reason, but that's a secondary thing. Continue, Paul. But if you're a person of notoriety, as you would be if you were in this situation, like. I would absolutely sorry, but I would absolutely have like.
Okay. Brewer's box seat to throw out the first pitch, like get a sweet at the game. I would. You can't just sign up to throw out the first. You're not adventuring.
You're doing a retirement tour, Paul. This is different. You asked how Giannis would do it, not LeBron. No, I said, How would you do it if you're in the situation? Throw out the first pitch.
I'd play five snaps at tackle for the Packers. I couldn't have that power. If you're a person of notoriety, you couldn't. The charts. You know you're being a stickler because it actually does.
Giannis is a he bought into the ownership group of the brewers, did he not? That's true. Are you asking? He's also Giannis. He can go throw out the first pitch for the next week if he wanted.
Every single day. You asked us. You didn't ask what we would do if we were Giannis. I said you are a person of notoriety who's being traded to a place unknown in the United States. All right, it's fine.
We figured that because we're radio hosts, we already are persons of notoriety. We already operate in that space. We are persons of notoriety and means. Oh, okay.
Well, that was. Uncalled for. Can I tell you my gas station fuck up? Yes, but then I want to get to a second topic because I'm excited about both. Go ahead.
I have that. Met uh Kroger card or whatever. Sure. So I went to fill up. And I found a station in Fond du Lac that was 417.
And then I put my card in and said, Do you want 60 cents off a gallon? And I said, oh, baby, oh, baby, I do.
So I put it in and then I tried to pump and it says you need to prepay. And for some reason, I was like. I got to go to the guy inside and give him, you know, like give them a 20, and then they put 20 on the thing. I'm like, I'm not doing that. That sucks.
So I put the thing back in and I drove back and. I was driving away and I go, wait a minute. I never put my credit card in. That's what they meant by prepay.
So I went back and I was like, and I've done this before where I put my card in and I take it out. It's like, oh, you still have your rewards there. Not this time.
So then I just got the standard three cents off a gallon. Anyway. Yeah. All right. Last next topic.
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I was listening to. The guy who steals half of Bart's takes and then claims them at his own podcast, Bill Simmons. And he was interviewing Ryan Smith, owner of the Utah Jazz. And as I was listening to this, it So the back story very briefly is that Ryan Smith was a season ticket holder for the Jazz. He had an opportunity to buy into the Timberwolves, but then ultimately, the last second said, like, no, I mean, I'm a jazz fan.
Like, this is. Like, very romantic, right? Like, very like sports romantic. This idea that, like, well, I mean, I'll always be split. I'll never just not be a jazz fan, but I'll be the owner of the Timberwolves and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And the way he was describing, like, how he grew up with Utah and the struggles, and they've never won a championship. And having that backstory is like kind of like how we've talked about. The idea of like, you can't just, Bart, you said it earlier in this episode, you can't just go to Cleveland if you were a radio host there. And then they'd be like, well, what would you do, Bart? And you say, like, you'd have to name all of the stereotype things because you're not actually from there.
And it had me going down this path of like the importance. Really ultimately means nothing, but just being the way, at least I am. I was going to say the way that we are, but the way that I am, where it would feel more romantic if. Like the team owner of the teams. Was one of us.
So I guess my like my question is There is value, there's a lot of value, significant value. If you're Teams' ownership, you know, the Packers are such a unique thing, and I think that adds value, quite frankly. I really do. That would be, that's an important thing. You'd love to see your teams be owned by.
a Wisconsinite through and through. Like I'll even say like on the Atanasio front, like it's been a long, long enough time now where I kind of sort of think of them as like half and half. don't know if they deserve that credit but i kind of think they do The Bucks ownership group thing, like I said, Mark, and the Bucks one's different. Mark invested here. Yeah.
So, like, but the Bucks also did help do the downtown and the deer district. But, but, but that's a, but a lot of them. But it did seem like they were coming here, like. As as as um Like to develop for them, not for us. Like tycoons of industry type of thing, like it didn't feel It felt like I'm here to make money, and that's fine.
But I will say I feel. more close to the Packers and the Brewers. In my own value of the worth of it, then I do the bucks because, and this goes back to something I actually remember, I didn't pre-think of this, like, like. I don't know, seven, eight years ago, and I think it was a Chuck and Winkler segment, and it was. The discussion was basically they were doing all of these Pregame activities and things that were very They're trying to figure out how to get people to the arena and like get more excitement.
And it was all of these ideas that I just fucking hated. And to me, it was the Wisco jersey. Probably not too different from. But, like, anyway, to finish the thought, and then I wanna go to you guys. But it just felt like a bunch of New Yorkers came here.
And said How do we New Yorkify this Wisconsin sports team? And I hated all of it because none of it felt real, none of it felt organic. It felt like you going to Cleveland and then pretending and like bringing your Wisconsin stuff there instead of saying, oh, like this is how a Wisconsin team would do this.
So I honestly felt it's okay. It's okay in radio and it's perfectly acceptable. And even if the person still moves, they can still do TV hits on Channel 4. Other than that.
So, I will say, maybe this is a me thing. Maybe some people don't care, and the bucks are the bucks, and the brewers are the brewers, and the pack, you don't really care. For me, it's like it just kind of cheapens a little bit because. I mean, Eden's and Haslam, like, these aren't like, they're not us. It doesn't.
Let me tell you my thought. Yeah, go ahead. And like, as soon as, as soon as. Um Lazarie could get out like he did. You know, so like that's what they're doing.
Like, this is the only reason that I would ever want to own a team is to run for Senate. First of all. Are you being actually serious? You're joking, right? That's a joke.
It started as one, but I stand by it, I guess.
Okay. Um. If I were to suddenly be granted ownership of the Bucks. You change. Like the money will change you, is what I'm saying.
So, here's what should happen. I'm sorry. Go ahead. The owner can be from wherever they want. That is the monarchy.
But what they need to have is a prime minister. Oh. Where teams have a The owner needs to be a figurehead. They have the money. They can rubber stamp shit.
But a team needs a prime minister. To run the day-to-day. Sure. So I'm not, I'm not thinking about millions. I'm getting my.
Fat 80 grand paycheck, but I'm the prime minister of the goddamn Bucks. Yeah. And I'm the one out there cutting ribbons.
Well and even as you were saying, telling Congress. Guys. It's cheaper to keep them.
Okay, cool.
So I'll give you an example. That's why it's so funny to me. This just occurred to me though, but like. Herb Cole owning the box. That's the same slogan Milwaukee does for the potholes.
It's just cheaper to keep them, guys. Nope, all right. City planner humors for my other friends. Herb herb cult or owning the bucks felt Like he would always go to that same breakfast spot in Glendale. Like he was just, he was Wisconsin, right?
And if he wasn't, he could have sold the Bucks for more money and he sold them, as the story is told, for less because part of the contract and part of the deal is you have to keep them here. Does the next ownership group of the next thing like it's cheaper to keep them again? Once again, it's a bucks model. I mean, Herb Cole lost probably hundreds of millions of dollars by having some of those parameters in there.
So to me, that just has that value.
So, like, even like the shareholder thing for a Packers thing. Like it's just it creates a sense of community that I I don't think exists if it's Somebody's investment property. You know? And like, I think it's part of why Mark Cuban regrets so much selling the Mavs because now it's not like us anymore. It's these other people, and do they have secondary ideas about casino?
Like, whatever. I'm going to spend 2x just to try to get the Mavs back. Oh, they won't sell them back. I don't know. Maybe I'm.
I'm finding myself to be very passionate about this as I say it all out loud, but Grant, you've not said much.
Well, I I think this is a microcosm of just the way our world is trending. Like, I think ownership over this, that, and the other thing is going to become more detached because it seems like private equity is finding opportunities to buy anything, including like youth sports and You know. I think Bucks fans and Wisconsin sports fans in general are going to have an interesting. test with Jimmy Aslam. I'm almost intrigued to see how it goes because we don't really have ownership issues with the Bucks.
We're not left complaining about an owner. We can nitpick Mark Murphy and Ed Policy, but there's not one eccentric billionaire nut job or some son or daughter, spoiled son or daughter of eccentric billionaire nut job running the team. Mark. Atnacio gets disgust. But we kind of know what he does and why he does it.
And then the team wins.
So we just kind of spit our wheels talking about the ownership. Jimmy Haslam running the Bucs could be something that a lot of Wisconsin sports fans don't have. Any recent experience with any at all? At all. We're not, we're not.
We like laugh, like, ha ha, Jerry Jones. Ha ha, Jimmy Haslam. Ha ha.
Okay, well, now we're in the mix, man. Totally.
So, this is not something that we are equipped for or to handle. Um, so I'm almost interested to see how it goes. I'll also say, like. You know, it was funny. Clemens did some hits on our network because he was at.
Taylor Jenkins introductory press conference, which was the first time that Jimmy Hausum spoke. And he's like, you know, Clemens or somebody asked him, what do you think of the building? They did it at the art museum down on the riverfront. And Haslam's like, when they told me we were doing it at an art museum, I couldn't believe it, but this place is beautiful. Like, it was clear he was joking about how detached he was.
Yeah. That bothers me. That just doesn't. They're going to put Haslam up on the board next year and be like, hey, Jimmy, pronounce these cities economic walk. Like it ain't that yet.
I did too. But I mean, you should look at this. This is from sitting here. I also just don't think that's the same thing. God damn it.
Tell me if you resonate with this too. Guess who I am? Wait, guess who I am? I know exactly who you are. Nick Swartzon.
You're Kreischer, obviously. I'm Clark Kreischer. Hey guys. Yeah. Yeah, fucking artists love fucking and being fucking everywhere, guys.
He actually looks a little bit like him with the hat on, like that. I'm Bart Kreischer, my new character. Is his real name Bart, by the way? Bert. No, his name is Bart, Bart Winkler.
Oh, yeah, his name is Bert Kreischer. You're right.
Sorry. I've convinced myself it's He's combining the two. I see that. Nice full mad girl. Uh Did you just spit that hell on the floor of your basement?
I'm Bart Kreischer. I'm fucking crazy. you you know that he's going to be on the packers broadcast the wednesday before thanksgiving You got you yeah you spit all over the floor Yeah, that's crafty. Can you change the angle, please? I think we should stop.
One last comment, and then I'll leave you alone. Yeah. To me, like, and Bart's off on his own Chriser world, but Grant, tell me if you resonate with this at all. My birthday. Mark Murphy running the Packers felt very Yeah.
Approachable, relatable. Like I built a snow hill. Aw, shucks. But right though, and like I might be at the WIA Girls State Tournament and say some crazy shit that gets me on Sports Center. But I didn't even, I, Mark Murphy, didn't even like consider that that would be national.
That's endearing. Like, we're gonna that is being lost, and maybe I'm feeling more nostalgic than I expected in saying that, but um. I don't know. So I really liked this Ryan Smith story where if the jazz Strike rich with the number two overall pick in the draft, and things go well. I just think that means more.
Than it does if it's just like some investors who fucking bought a team and you know, one of them sold the moment that he could and made 2x on his investment. Like, I mean, like, I get it, but also fuck you. Like, I don't know, I'm not sure. It's private equity. I'm sorting through my thoughts, my thoughts, or venture capitalists, you know.
Give a chance to buy a certain stake in the team, or what happened with the Celtics, you know, this offseason? Yeah. Um, with Pag Liuka, the guy who had been there forever, and then Bill Chisholm, you know, like coming in, and they immediately slash payroll. Yeah. We haven't really had to contend with that in Wisconsin before.
So I think that's why Jimmy Haslam is. Going to be an entertaining experiment, it feels granted. It feel different with like the Haslam Edens, like that, that it doesn't. Am I out in left field? Yes.
No, I don't think you're wrong. I don't think you're wrong at all. Yeah. Lazari, I mean, they were so, to Bart's point, they were so passionate about this bait. Burnt.
Burnt, they were willing to become public servants. Alex Lazari, it wasn't enough to own the Bucks. He also wanted to represent the Wisconsin people. Maximum contributions from Mike Budenholzer, among others. Remember that story?
Don't you think this is the last time you've seen this character, by the way? Bart Kreischer.
Next time I'm on a boat. I'm going to be looking for. Baseball's in McCovey Cove. Lambeau Field. I hope they'll send Burt Kreischer down the sledding hill.
Speaking of Mark Murphy and his. I hope neither of you get traded and you do not have to spend your last week of Wisconsin time. That's how I spend every weekend. This is currently how I'm living my life now.
So they can trade me at any time. And in this business, they probably will, except we don't get traded, we get cut, designated for assignment. All right, I'm going to take my third shower of the day. Stop showering. That's not going to help.
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