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Details at Lowe's.com slash terms. Subject to change. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome into the Winkler Verse. It's a sit-down episode today as I go one-on-one.
With Rami McLoff. Please don't ever say that. In depth, one-on-one. I go one-on-one. I'm down at the ballpark one-on-one with Logan Schaefer.
Logan. Yeah. I always, I always, this is where the conversation always goes with you and me. There are so many things that annoy and irritate you, especially in broadcasting and expressions that people often use in broadcasting that. I can't imagine it bothering me.
I don't even. I can't imagine even noticing it. Like, I'm on to the next thing, man, and things that, you know, matter to get a turn on what? Tommy, you got to say that a little quicker. I'm up against it.
I'm up against it right now.
Okay. I'm up against it. Got a hard out. We got a heart out here at the top of the hour. Yeah, hard out at 59.
I mean, what are we supposed to do about that? I do. I want to start. I want to start with this with you. And it's a pleasure to see you, Rami Makloff, of course, now occupying the Nooner space.
On uh nine to noon. 1250, 1057. Wisconsin Sports Radio Network, the whole gambit. Wherever you get your pods. Yeah.
Yeah, and we're taping this during The Brewers finale of their series with the Diamondbacks.
So I'm going to lay down. Two different things.
So Tim, you can edit this out later. Tim Shea. Um That's a bit. I was going to say, Tim is Tim is your everyday on-site producer. I saw your eyes confused.
That is really blown up. I mean, I see the Carl's place. I see the Carl's place. And I saw who is up in the right corner. Dan Chaney Insurance.
Yeah. I know you got the weed one. Happy Place Hemp. Happy Place. CBD, Rami.
Sorry. RTHD. Rob Ed. And it's it's weed. Uh promo code Bart.
25% off. But I didn't know you had a budget for an on-site producer for every show. I'm still going to lay this down both ways.
So, the Brewers, hey, great series getting two or three from the D-Backs that win today. Good wind good wind Unfortunately, what looked to be a good series fell apart. Brewers losing the other night and Thursday.
So that was tough. You good?
Okay. Here's who I'm looking at. Thanks, Tim. I appreciate it. You're looking at a ring light.
You're looking at a ring light as we speak.
Okay. Whatever the fuck this thing does. Yeah, what the fuck is that? What is that thing? I've never seen that.
it's a bunch of water it's a water situation okay all right I don't know.
Well, thank you, Tim, the ring light. I appreciate that. Actually, you know who bought me that? It was Matt in the Falls, bathtub Matt. Nice.
Shout out. Hey, he sent it to my house. How do you get your headdress? I don't know, but I was doing a podcast one night and he was on it. And he goes.
He got an alert and he goes, Hey, Bart, did your door just ring? And I'm like, what? He goes, that's weird. Go check your. I unboxed it live.
It was my first unboxing. I don't know that I'd do that. I don't know that I'd open that box. I don't know what's in that. And why do you know my address?
I don't know. I think I fucked up with something. We're friends, and I don't know your address. That's right. I don't know yours.
No, you don't. It's it's on purpose.
Well, yeah. Yeah. That's funny. Although somebody, somebody does. Anonymously send me.
when they go to games and get like twenty dollar reward potto. Yeah. Someone does send me that anonymously with no return address to my house.
Well, you'll take that. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'll take a ring. I mean, if you want to send me cool shit, I'll take it, but. If you want to come rob the shit that other people have sent me, then no way, man. All right, so that's not. We don't have to waste too much time on that.
Is it public? Is your address public? I guess all of ours are on some level. Everything's public everywhere. True.
Yeah. I was just reading a text exchange that Steve Bannon had with somebody. Like, how is Steve Bannon's text? If people are leaking Steve Bannon's text, somebody's got my text. Oh man, if some of my me and my friend's group chat texts ever leak.
That's it for your boy. I'm self-cautious about the things I say. Just because the adage is: never write what you can say. Mm. Never seen it.
Never write what you wouldn't say. That seems more right. That seems more accurate. Why do you think it is that And I think I know the answer to this, but. I would say stuff, and I'm thinking strictly on my national show.
I would say stuff there that was pretty, I thought, like, no one else is saying this kind of stuff on the air, kind of controversial. And I get little reaction. I tweet it though. And it's like, oh my God, what have you done? And I think the answer is: no one listened to the show.
I didn't say that just means you're reaching more people with your tweets than your show, Bart. That's what that would indicate. But I think my written voice Comes off much worse than my actual voice. And that's something I'm trying to navigate.
Okay. Was that was that was your was your uh Your mask experiment or your mask escapades? Was that an experiment to see? What kind of reaction the the social media is getting versus the the podcast? No, so here's the epitis, impetus behind the behind the mask, okay?
Um And it's kind of like. From a Well, you're a comedian. Sure. of sorts. It's kind of like it was a.
Coming up, I need to plug. Hold on, let me check my calendar. Yeah, what do you got? When are you going to be at the fucking. Pizza Hut on Kinickinick.
I'm at Falcon Bowl. I'm at Falcon Bowl for the Cowboy Killers show on May 13th. And then in June, I'm like, I don't know, I'm somewhere way out in the boonies. I don't even remember where. Yeah, I don't even have the location in the calendar here.
I just have comedy show. But I'll be out somewhere on June. Falcon Bowl at the Cowboy Killers Show sounds like I told AI, write me a sentence about where I'm performing comedy. The venue is the Falcon Bowl, and the comedy show is called the Cowboy Killers Comedy Showcase. And I'm headlining.
I'm headlining.
So come and check it out. I got thoughts, funny ones. Yeah, okay, good. I'll put the link down for tickets below. I don't think the link is active yet, but when it is, I'd appreciate you shooting that out if you could, please.
If you If you tweet it at some point, I'll RT you. I appreciate that. I'll appreciate it. I'm not putting a fucking link on my show. All right.
I don't know how. I want to get to something quick.
Okay. I wanted to get to that. I'm trying to think now, Tim, you'll do all this in post, but I want to. You never finished talking about what the epicenter of the mask thing was. I said, yeah, there we go.
So I had somebody. I just did a normal post about something. I don't even remember what it was. It was like Tuesday. I just posted, I don't, maybe a, I don't even know.
It was on Facebook. And someone goes. From the guy who told us to wear masks six years ago. And I get this a lot. The mask because during COVID I told people, well, you know, COVID's still real, but I told people to wear a mask.
Yeah, I told people to wear a mask. I told people to get the shot I said, I want the shot. I said, I'll go into the dumpster and lick. The remains of the rest of your shot that you didn't. Before I'm eligible, because I wanted this thing to be over.
I wanted sports to come back. I didn't want my infant son. To get whatever this is. Which I think he did before COVID even started. Um in most people's minds.
So then there was.
So I don't know if it's that. We also had paid ads at the time from Pfizer. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I don't know if that was it. Maybe, maybe that, but people associate me.
Like I want to be like, oh, people associate me with. My parade chairs and going from Milwaukee to National and being a funny hip young man. No, they just think of me for telling him to get the jab, is what has happened.
So some guy says it.
Some guy says it. And I'm like, well, fuck that. I'm going to, the next podcast I do, I'm just going to wear a mask the whole time. I'm just going to wear a mask the whole time. And somebody else.
Had tweeted something separate about me driving around. Oh, this Bart chick. Drives around in a mask.
So I did a video driving around in a mask. And then I brought my mask to the game. Because Well, first of all, I bought seats for Thursday on accident, so I had to sell those. That was a disaster. You know, I was going to ask you if you wanted to go to the game today, and then I saw you were at the game last night.
And I was like, Yeah, he probably doesn't want to go to the game today. I had tickets. Sure, yeah. I had tickets to about 9:30 this morning. Finally, they sold.
And then. I thought we were sitting. I thought. The ticket layout, I thought we were sitting on the dugout.
Okay. And I was excited, and I told my kid, and I got these specific seats because I also took my brother, and that's where we sat for the Zach Brown Sunday Night Baseball NBC thing.
Okay. That section, that dugout. Yeah. The visitors' dugout. Yeah.
So I figured I'm going to bring the mask because when the manager and the pitcher make changes, I'm right on the dugout. I'll be on TV. I'll wear the mask. And then We were by the camera, well, was the problem. We weren't even by the camera.
They had the boxes and the thing. Yeah. So then we're sitting there. And I hear someone shout. And this is where a lot of things I feel like.
I do get assisted a lot of times. Like, I have a good idea. But something else always puts the cherry on the top. Because I heard someone scream, let's go, Brandon. And I'm like, why in the fuck is someone saying that tonight?
And then I'm like, oh shit, Brandon Sprouts on the mound. Yeah, it was an actual Brandon. Yeah. I have a mask in my pocket. I think tweeting a picture with a mask saying, let's go, Brandon, it's funny.
Yeah, that was the universe speaking to you, is what that was. That was the universe giving you the old alley, and it was just a youop for you. You know, just throw that thing down.
So then I posted it and um People are like, why would you wear a mask in 2026? I don't know why are I posting pictures of Officers that are wearing masks in 26. I go, that's a great question. But then people keep being like, You have a mask on, and I'm giving a different answer every time. I say, I desit.
It matched my outfit. Um you know.
So that was, did that answer your question? On some level, yeah. Can I reveal too much of my scheme? No, that's fine. It's good.
People like a little peek behind the curtain at how things were. Is that another expression that you hate? A peek behind the curtain? I don't know, but my wife does like. She'll say um She'll say something.
And she'll go, oh, I bet you hate that phrase.
So, I'm not the only one who notices that you have a lot of phrases that you hate and things that irritate you that really don't matter. I hate how quickly, like, a phrase will become a part of someone's lexicon. Gotcha. Like if if people start saying, I can't even think of one. Like all that in a bag of chips.
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In theaters, May 22nd. Get tickets now. Do you have any phrases that you're convinced that are part of the lexicon now and like popular phrases that you're like, that was me? I started that. I created that.
Nobody was saying that before me. Are you joking right now? No, I'm asking you, genuinely. I made a blackout Wednesday. No, you didn't.
Yeah, I did. When? Uh early 2000s I've got no doc. I've looked. I've got no documented records because I went.
I The the internet will tell you it got popular in Chicago bars. 08-09 or something.
Well, I was just going to say, the first time I heard Blackout Wednesday was when. It was like, I don't know, freshman, sophomore year of college, which I think predates. When you're saying you coined the term, and it was when friends would come back for the holidays. And we'd go out the night before Thanksgiving and we'd call it Blackout Wednesday. And that would be a good time.
Yeah, remember you first heard it. I started it two years before that. It was like around 2000, 2001. Yeah, I started in 1999.
Okay. And you were how old at that time? Yeah. So I think I just dispelled the notion that you created that. And it maybe didn't start in the Chicagoland area because that's where I was the first time that I heard it.
There's no proof. It's a he said he said. Why is it taking Woody? They're taking Woody out of the game early. Yeah, his velocity was down.
I saw an 89-mile-per-hour fastball, so there might be. There might be something up there. I don't wanna. I don't want to manifest anything bad, but there might be something up there if they're pulling him in the second inning and he's throwing 89 mile per hour fastballs. I was going to play him.
I'm trying to like make money back on FanDuel and DraftKings. Sure. So I'm trying to make sure. You're always trying to make money back on those. You're never, you're never like.
I'm playing these $15 lineups and putting no research into them. Yeah. Um And I went with I was going to go with Woodruff today, so I'm glad I didn't, but I went with Peralta today because I did hear on your show today, you said, I got a question. I haven't really thought about it. Do the Brewers miss Freddie Peralta?
And the other guys are both like, no. Like as fast as possible, yeah, I got killed for that one. People absolutely destroyed me for that. And it wasn't even an opinion, it wasn't you just asked a question. Yeah, I was like, it was just a question that occurred to me as I was driving in this morning and thinking about the brewer's struggles.
I was like, maybe this is Freddy Peralta, maybe they missed Freddy Peralta. I'll ask that question today on the show. And apparently, I shouldn't have from the reaction that I got just from asking the question.
Well, Brent, Brandon had like enough research ready for you someday to ask that question to fucking tell you no. I was fascinated. It was fascinating. But I have two expressions that I'm convinced. That I coined, that I invented, that I never heard anybody saying before I sent them, Bart.
One is a punchable face. I think I invented the notion of people having a punchable face. You absolutely did not. By no fault of their own, it's just their face. They were born with that face, and you look at it and you go, ooh, I'd like to punch that thing.
And the other one is, and I coined this during the Prince Fielder days, and I would describe myself this way as I was growing up playing sports: FitFat. Fit fat, like a guy a guy who's heavy, a guy who's carrying a little extra weight, but who who can who can like hang with people who are in shape in whatever sport it is that they play and and will surprise you with their athleticism from time to time. And I'm I'm convinced, I'm I'm sure that I invented and coined those terms before anybody else said them. I mean, I'm not going to push back. I gave you mine, which I clearly did not invent, but I want to believe I did.
So, if you guys want to look those up, the origins and put them in the comments. Down there. Right down there. That'd be great. I also saw at the game.
And this is the question I did want to ask you. And I'll edit this out if the answer is no. But have you taken pictures with like fans before? Yeah, sure. Like, hey, Rami, can I get a picture?
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Why? Yeah.
I didn't know. I do. I didn't know if people liked you the way they like me. Yeah, I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure if you were asking, would anybody want a fucking picture with this guy?
Or if you were asking me, are you against taking pictures with people? But yes, I have. I've taken pictures. You've been in pictures with me, with fans and listeners of the show. We've done that together before.
At the toy drive and things like that. Yeah. I so I it's rare. But it happens. And I appreciate it every time.
But I'm Bart Winkler. I'm not like, you know, Elton fucking John. Right.
So From that standpoint, I am not somebody. that likes to go ask people for pictures with them. And okay. I had an opportunity last night. The last time that I took a picture with somebody.
Like, hey, can I get a picture with you? Was Mike Silver? NFL writer? Yeah. Yeah, because he we went to a Packer pep rally in Denver, and he was there for some reason.
Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck is Mike Silver doing here? And Mike Silver was there. And so somebody was already in line though. Like somebody was already.
Getting a picture with him. And so I just jumped in behind. I don't think if that was happening, I would have taken a picture. Like you photo-bombed? Like you just inserted yourself into the picture?
No, someone's like, hey, Mike, can I get a picture? He's like, absolutely. And then I was right there. And I go, oh, could I get one too, man? Oh, okay.
All right. Yeah, so you just piggybacked. You piggybacked off them. But that wasn't that so he doesn't know what the fuck happened. He doesn't There was not an experience that was had there.
It was just a picture for whatever. Yeah. And so uh last night Last night was insane at this game. We looked to our right. It was a guy I went to school with and had coached soccer.
And then I look to my left. And you don't know like jack shit about anything college. No, very little. But do you recognize this guy? I'm trying to.
Yeah, he's the head coach of Purdue.
Well, yeah, his neck is Jew.
Now I don't know who the fuck that is.
Okay, so I said that it's Matt Painter.
Okay. The head coach of Purdue.
Now that you've said that, I have heard that name. And he's been the head coach of Purdue since. 2005. Oh wow.
Okay. So I sit down, I look. I go to my brother. Matt Painter's behind us. And he, like, you know, sometimes it'll be like, hey, I saw some woman at the grocery store the other day that looked dead ringer for John Kerry.
So I was like, hey, it's John Kerry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You saw a woman at the store who was a dead ringer for John Kerry? Dead ringer for John Kerry. Fair enough.
I just wanted to make sure I heard that right. Fair enough. You know how some of these, some.
Some men, as they get older, they start to look like Yeah. A butch version of the opposite sex, sure, yeah. I think JK is one of those. Yeah. So he's like, I don't see anyone that looks like Mad Painter.
And I go, no, fucking Mad Painter. And there it was. And he was sitting on the aisle with somebody else. Don't know who it was. It might be an assistant coach.
It wasn't like a recruit.
So Mad Painter's in Milwaukee right now and I got no fucking idea why. And I don't mind. Like Talking about it here. And if you look, I tried to find us on TV last night. I didn't, but I saw Matt Payner.
And at one point, the camera came down the well because I'm like, oh, they're going to put Matt Payner on the Jumbotron. Like, look, who's at the game? And the guy sat right behind him. And I'm like, oh, Matt Painter is for sure going to be on the screen. I'm going to get behind him with my mask on.
I have this big plan. But the guy went down on the field for the sausage race.
So the the hot the chorizo bigger than Matt Payner. But this guy's here and like a few people came and took pictures with him And I could have. And I think there were times where, like, I look back at him, and there were times he was like looking around. You know how you look around people that you're sitting by? Sure.
We made eye contact once. At one point, I was thinking, at one point, I was thinking. Did he maybe ever hear me in Fort Wayne, Indiana, on the radio? Is he gonna want to picture with me? You thought Matt Payter was a fan?
You thought Matt Payter was a fan of the program? I didn't give it more than three and a half seconds of thought. Sure, yeah, but there was a second or two of that thought. I must have. I had a.
Were you done with it? Was that the end of your story, or was there more to it? No, but I'll then, but I just, I did not go up and get a picture with him. And there's been a lot of people that I've had. I was at a hotel and Mick Foley's chilling in the lobby once.
Nice. Yeah. I don't go up and get a picture. I just I don't know.
Now, do you do the thing where you take a selfie with them in the background?
So people believe you when you're like, Yeah, I saw McFoley at the hotel. I didn't that day. I did with Matt Painter. I had a similar experience at Dodger Stadium. Do you watch the TV show Barry at all?
Yeah, I've seen it. Uh, with the with Bill Hayter, starring Bill Hayter, the actor Anthony Kerrigan, the the bald guy, the guy, the guy who's who's bald, he was sitting right in front of me at Dodger Stadium. And I love Barry, and he's since been in the Superman movie, but I also could not bring myself to ask him for a picture. I don't know what that is about us, that they're used to it. Like, it's probably something they do all the time.
So, because we've also gotten like, we're not. Nearly I don't even want to say we're local celebrities. Unless you think you are. I don't know. Okay.
If you're out and people recognize you and they're like, hey, Robbie, I love the show. And we're not like David Gruber. No, no, we're not on the level of Gruber. No, not at all. I've had a lot of instances where I take a picture with the guy.
who is like excited And his wife is like. You basically took a picture next to a tree. Like, what the fuck is this? Who is this person? Do you remember when we were in the booth next to David Gruber?
Where were we? We were getting brunch or breakfast. Yeah. And David Gruber literally in the next booth over. We couldn't do anything.
No, nothing at all. We are both frozen. We are both frozen by his fame. The the aura that he emits. My kid, Giannis, I've seen Giannis and my kids swimming.
Half a dozen times. And I never Now that's weird because early in his days, I did cover the Bucs more. Yeah. And I've interacted with him. I watched Duke UCF.
uh in their locker room once. Like with the Bucs team, because they wouldn't do interviews until the game was over. And then I had him go up. I gave him a piece of paper to say. You're listening to Sparky's Bucks Weekly on 105.7 FM the fan at a media day before they put the clamps down on that kind of shenanigans.
So I don't know. He sees a million people. I don't think. But he, there was like, I never got a picture. I never had my kid.
I almost did that. I almost said, Hey, Matt Paynett, will you take a picture with my kid? Nice. Use the human shield. Yeah, human shield.
I like that. I like that idea. Pat Murphy does every day. Yeah, exactly. That bothers me.
Yeah. I knew it would. Why are your kids there? He likes spending time with his kids. It would bother me if there are some guys who only, when they have a bad game or a loss.
they'll bring their kids out and sit 'em next to 'em to to to like discourage The hard questions because who wants to ask a guy a hard question when his kid is sitting right next to him? Pat Murphy does it win, lose, or draw. Like he brings the kids out with so, unless he's very calculated and he knows that it looks better if he just brings them with him up there every time or damn near every time. That that that could that could be a possibility, but I've I have a little bit more respect or or like some some leeway for somebody who's going to do it every time. And I feel like their motives aren't just to use their child as a human shield from difficult questions to answer.
So I didn't say anything to Giannis any week. Like the six or six The the Seven or eight weeks he was there. Yeah, all right. The seven or eight weeks he was there. Um But there was one week where my kid.
was there was a there's a table when you wait till like you can do some coloring Before you swing. And you understand. Huh? You or the kid who's coloring?
Well, Giannis was coloring with his kid. Oh nice. That's a good idea. And my kid went to sit at the table to color.
Okay. And eventually, like it got to the point where It was almost like Giannis was babysitting my kid.
So I could have come up to him and been like, hey, thanks for the babysitting. You know? Yeah. That's a fun little Yeah. But instead, the only time I engaged with him was after they won the NBA Cup.
I walked by him and go, Hey, congrats. Because they won the cup in Vegas. He was then swimming the next night.
Well, I think you're doing the right thing because one of the things Giannis likes about Milwaukee is he can live his life and he's not constantly packing. I didn't want to advocate for that and be part of the problem. Exactly. You don't want to fuck up a good thing.
So I think that was the right move. My ex once. Was picking up some food for us. I think it was at a Bartolotta's, and Giannis was there, also picking up food. And she didn't want to ask for a picture, so she did the selfie thing with Giannis over her shoulder.
And over one shoulder is Giannis, and over the other shoulder was the woman who I think worked at the restaurant looking straight into the camera, like with a look on her face, like, I know what the fuck you're doing. I know exactly what you're doing right now. And it is a hilarious picture. It's a really, really funny picture. Oh, I just saw Woodruff's velocity was like no higher than 85.
Oh, geez. That's not good. I hope he's all right.
So here's where my bigger issue comes in. Or another, not a bigger issue, but another layer to The um the conversation. If I take a picture with Giannis. Or Matt Painter. Or whoever.
Mm-hmm. People will say, Well, why didn't you get him on the pod? Yeah. Get him on the show. Yeah.
Even when it wasn't, you know, the show or whatever. Why don't you get him on the show? I have a sports show. Where I would go. I saw a big cat do this once to um Mark Davis of the Raiders.
Because they got the number one sports podcast in the world. They can hit anybody. But there's some guys they can't get.
So he had to hunt down like Mark Davis and was like, hey, Mark, Mark, will you come on my pod? And you just can't say that sentence. You just sound like a douche. Yeah. Yeah.
Will you come? Hey, Matt, nice to meet you. I run this pod called Into the Winklerverse. Mm-hmm. I would have never thought to have you on, but.
You're Six seats behind me at a brewers' game? Yeah, and what are you going to ask Matt Painter anyways? Do you really have like Are you interested in Purdue basketball? Do you have real questions that you want answers to about Purdue basketball? No, and if I, if I had, if I had a, if I on this podcast had the Purdue men's basketball head coach.
It would probably get less views than just me talking to you. Probably, yeah. I mean, I'm me though. Like you're comparing apples and oranges there. You know what I mean?
I'm a local celebrity. Robbie Maclaw. Then I thought. Apples and wrenches. That's what I came up with.
Yeah, okay, I know. Apples and oranges bothers you too. That's another one. They're both round fruit that are young. I get it.
Yeah, I get it. I get what you're saying. It's just a common expression, Bart. We don't have to let it be that way. Yeah.
Then I thought. Then then I thought Yeah. I know Bart Lundy a little bit at UWM. Yeah. And they played Purdue last year.
I'm gonna text him to Tell him that Matt Painter's at the game. And then I thought. He won't give a shit. No, he doesn't care. Why would he care?
I don't know. I don't think anybody cared that Matt Painter was at the game except for you. I think you're the only one who gave a fuck that Matt Painter was at the Brewers game. I bet nobody else sitting around you even knew it was Matt Painter. I bet very few people, if any, knew who that man was, as I didn't know who that man was until you showed me a picture of him in a Purdue zip-up.
I'd say there were. Probably there were like four or five people that did come and approach him. Yeah. And they were all like. 65 to 75 years old.
Matt Painter just looks like. Can you put that picture up again? Do you have that? I may, yes. He just looks like a stock photo of older white guy.
Like. But he like Like, if I was looking for somebody to put in like a cholesterol ad, like just there, there's Matt Painter. You know what I mean? Nobody knows who that guy is. That's a funny picture, by the way.
The one, the one that you found is a really funny picture. But Yeah, he just looks like. Stock photo of older white dude. Matt. Matt Payner looks like the Republican state senator candidate that keeps losing but running in a Democratic district.
Well, let's just run Matt Painter again. Maybe if we can get the down ballot voting, he was up three points from the last one. He was up three points from the previous election. Maybe he's got momentum. Maybe Matt Painter's got momentum.
And name recognizability at this point. I mean, we do have congressmen who were former. Oh, I just took the wrong screen off. Go ahead. Yeah, that was me.
There I am. I'm back. You had Hootie Waddy now? I said we have former college coaches that are that are in our House of Representatives, don't we? Tommy Tubber Bill.
Well, yeah, he's a senator. Yeah. Bruce Pearl did not run, but he was thinking about it. Was he really? Paul Feinbaum was going to run.
But then But then they found out that, like, they did apple research on them, and they're like, you've said too many things that. Would destroy you in a general campaign, and it was things like. I support everyone. And be nice to your fellow man. You were not divisive enough, sir.
You were not divisive enough. Yeah, exactly. The only marginalized territories you go after are Big Ten country. You need to actually. Uh, be a little harder in general.
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Not that like Okay, well, we've done our fun.
Now we have to talk sports. That's not what the point of this is. The point was. You asked me yesterday, why am I wearing a mask? And I said, come on my show tomorrow.
And you said, okay. Yeah. Anytime I need a reason why. Yeah. Yeah.
Did you guys get into the NBA lottery thing? We did. We did. We talked about that. The reason why this is better than anything, like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
I think it. The thinking is. It That teams will not want to be in the bottom three.
So then they will compete. In the second half of the season. Rather than, you know, sitting the top seven guys on their roster for no good reason. I think that's. That's the thinking in it.
I don't know if it works, but that is that is the thinking in it. There's something that Adam Silver is doing, and this is not your wheelhouse, but if you want to sound smart. You can use this, he is he is trying to English premier legify the NBA. I've said this. I said this, and I don't know anything about soccer, but I know that the in-season tournament.
Is something that they adopted or took from the European soccer world. I wouldn't have said Premier League because I don't know where all these things come from, what their origin is, but I said, like, this is a European soccer thing, they're trying to emulate. European soccer, and why? Why are we like if Nobody Very few people here care about European soccer. If that was something people wanted, then that would be popular here, and it's not.
Well, the concept the concepts that he's trying to emulate. Are good. In the English Premier League, there's 20 teams in the Premier League. And then there's a second division. and a third division.
You know, you know, fourth, fifth. In America, any instance we have of that is the minor leagues. Right.
where you are locked step with an organization.
So because it's not that way. The like Manchester United, if they have a minor league team, it's their development academy. It's not. Nottingham Forest or whatever the fuck, okay?
So you can do that. And then they also have a separate tournament where the best teams in Europe play.
So there are There are tournaments. that go on in season But when he when you try to adapt that to the NBA The only way you can do that is if you play the teams you're already playing, which is nonsensical. Right.
Or bring the G League into it, which makes no sense either because those are minor league teams.
So there's no way to do it, but that's why he's trying.
Now he's trying to make it where. The teams at the bottom still are playing for something. Like The bottom three teams In the English Premier League, they are going to get relegated. They're going to go down to the second level. Which I actually like that.
I've proposed that. And again, I've said essentially what you just said. I don't know exactly how it works. I don't know who you're replacing the teams, who you would relegate. I don't know who you're replacing them with.
Yeah, but like you just said, like those are, those are, those are your feeder systems. It's not like here they are, but there they're not. No, that's what I'm saying.
So I don't know here how you do it because you're just promoting your feeder systems. And I don't. Like, I don't think that makes a whole lot of sense. But that is one thing that If you could, if there was a way to make it make sense for baseball and basketball, the two sports where it people not competing, teams or organizations not competing seems to be a problem. Relegation seems like the best solution to that problem if you can make it work, but I don't know that you can even make it work with the way that things are structured right now.
I mean I also don't get why, like, the NFL is just like, what spot were you? That's what pick you have. Yes. And then the NBA's got a... You're having.
Dude, you know how long and my kid is loving sports. Almost to the point where it's like Not even a cute party trick anymore. Like, I'm mad he knows more than me. Yeah. And he asked me to do a podcast with him the other day.
I'm not putting you on the fucking TV. He said, We could do one for your grandparents if you want. Not putting you on TV. It'd be cute, though. I know I could have been exploding the hell out of this kid.
You really could. Yeah. Like Bart and Son, it would have been great. Yeah. But then he grows up to a certain age, and then he's like, Daddy, this is you stole my childhood from me.
Little Winklerverse. I can't do it. All right. I don't talk to a guy once who works for YouTube, and I was like, How do you make it? How do you make it on YouTube?
Like, how do you like get the views and make the money on YouTube? He was like, two things. He was like, two things. Put out your content in as many languages as possible and anything for kids. Just make content for kids in as many languages as you possibly can.
The first, the former, I don't think you only speak English, right? You and your kid. But the latter, if you wanted to exploit your kid, that would draw in other kids that were sports fans like him.
Well, there's the one kid that started opening boxes.
Now he's got his own aisle at Target. Yeah. Yeah. But what's his life going to be when he's 24 years old? His life is going to be sitting on that pile of money that he made as a kid.
That's what his life is going to be. I do feel like Not exploiting my kid. Uh-huh. Is the greatest decision that I've made as a dad? I also feel like it could end up being my biggest regret.
Yeah. You got a cash cow sitting right there in your house. That you're not that you're not using. What I should have done. Oh, Contreras Homer.
Good, because he was close. He was warning track last night twice. Look at that. What I should have done. was Had a second kid.
Exploit one kid. And then give the other kid the real life. Just a normal life. Fuck. Is that out of the question?
Is that not in the works? The second kid? That is so far out of the question. For like every possible reason. That's a good thing.
Whatever reason you think we're not making another kid is, they're all right. Every one of them. Fair enough. Okay. That's one.
Okay. They got something for that. Your old co-host used to do endorsements for that. I think that. Uh Bluetooth deliver right to your doorstep.
I never take it, player. I don't need to. But if you want to be like friends. Get some blue choke. Roach.
And then I was going to go into one other thing. Tim, you'll have to edit this too. God forbid any sort of pause here. I guess I don't remember. Matt Painter, YouTube.
I forgot. All right. Oh, he knows so much. Yeah. Fuck.
Yeah, that's where you were going. He knows so much, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Somebody maybe at school. You know what? Must not have been important. All right. Yeah, Paul McCartney once said that if he didn't remember a song that he thought of.
Probably wasn't that good to begin with, so he didn't let it bother him. He also said the love you take is equal to the love you make, which is honestly true. It's brilliant. It's brilliant in its simplicity and truth. Yeah.
Uh anybody that you want to bitch about or gripe over or just me? Um, no, I got, I got no gripe. I got no gripe with you. No gripe, really, with anybody. Things are good.
Things are good, Bart. Yeah. Yep. I heard he had a migraine on Monday. No, that was just a load management.
That was just a load management day. Just I got I got a lot of jobs and things going on in my life. And I was like, you know what? I need a break. I need a little three-day weekend here coming off the NFL draft.
So it took a day.
So it took a day on Monday. That was my favorite part about. Chuck. is he never worked the day after a draft. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yeah. And I always call him on it. He'd be like, that's not true. No, that's not true.
Okay. Well, it's summertime. I got to go. I can't believe it. He never owned up to it.
He never fessed up to it. He tried to make it seem like it was just a coincidence. Yeah. Fair enough. He'll send me messages like we talk, but he'll send me messages.
You've had him on the show, right? Yeah. Yeah. When he sends me a message. Like, oh, I saw what you did.
That was a great bit, or that was funny, or good job with that. Mm-hmm. It's it's like um It's like a little guardian angel reminded me that I'm doing okay. Nice. It really warms.
I would say hearing from Chuck makes me feel better than hearing from anybody else.
Well, that Look at me, I'm almost crying, aren't I? I'll hit you up with one of those every once in a while. Hey, I saw this thing you did, I thought it was funny. Good job. What would you do about this?
What is that? Let me see. Hold on. I'm going to go full screen. Let me go.
Oh, you know what? My wife has a cream that I stole and started using for that. And it's natural, it's avocado-based. cream that you just just a little dab before you go to bed it goes a long way And helping with that. Not tube again.
Yeah, I'm not looking good right now. That's not I got I got bags. I got bags under there. And my ring light. What's that?
I was on a walk the other day, and a fucking robin came and just sat on this little perch here. It's like, get off there, bird. Skincare is important as we get a little older, Bart. Skincare is important. Hydrate, moisturize.
A little retinol is a good thing for the skin. Mm-hmm. And Arami's a little good for the soul. I hate when people say that. Fucking Christ.
All right. Rami, thank you. Anytime, Bart. Tapping into the Winklerverse. Love you, buddy.
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