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Restrictions apply. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome into the Winkler Verse. It is Tuesday. The 21st of August.
Wow. Nope. April. Jesus. Tim, Ryan Horvatz here.
This week will be done later in the week. Paul has a real job and he has real requirements of that job.
So it didn't work today. Gotta settle. Yeah, Ryan Horvat's on retainer for me. Whenever I need him, he pops on and we talk.
So, hey, buddy. Hey dude, really quick. I'm actually gonna. Microphone because it's like the only thing I got from Odyssey.
So let's might as well use it, right? I don't know if I was supposed to send this thing back or not, but I'm not going to. I also didn't send back my computer mainly because I have no idea where it's at. I never used it because my wife got me a Mac.
So, RIP to that thing. I'm doing pretty good. Right, fresh off of WrestleMania, I will say I thought um. Raw After Mania was a big bag of shit. I didn't enjoy it.
Did you? Not necessarily. My kid so Because we did WrestleMania post-games on Saturday and Sunday and then We did not do it last night. Done wrong. But my my kid is swimming from seven to eight.
And so on the way home, I hooked the phone through the Bluetooth and I let him watch how it started. And we saw Oba come out and then he saw EO and Rhea. team together Which he was like. Over the moon, about that they're back together as a team. And then I had to tell him, no, she left at the end of the show.
He's like, he's like, of all the things going on in wrestling, he's really invested in Rhea Ripley and EO Sky. teaming together. Which is crazy. And then I told him about FAT2 and Reigns and I mean, it was a good episode of Raw. But it wasn't like...
The Raw after WrestleMania. Remember when those crowds would be hijacked and they'd have to say, All right, you're going to hear some reactions that basically people are going to get booed that we don't want to get booed, but it's just a crazy night.
Now it's just like. Here's Ethan Page. Right? I don't even know who that is. Like, my kid knows who these.
He's like, you don't know Ethan Page? And I'm like, no, man. I used to have AEW. He was an NXT, yeah. That makes sense.
Makes sense, yeah. But I was let down, so now I'm looking forward to the NFL draft, man, because uh. I do watch. I do watch baseball. I watch the Cubs every day.
But I can't get into the NBA playoffs. I never wanted to be this guy. Right. Like, I just can't get into the playoffs, you know, blah, blah, blah. But I really, I can't.
They suck. When you don't have a dog in the fight. It's tough. Like, who are the likable teams in the league? I I guess maybe the Spurs if you like Timberwolves, but even like Like Timberwolves Nuggets is probably going to be the best series, and it starts at.
10.40 your time. And typically, I've not been a guy that's like, oh, woe is the East Coast. But there's so many people that just don't. And that was on real NBC. It wasn't like everyone got the game, but it's.
Even in Minnesota, your central time zone, this game's starting at 9:45. How you how you supposed to How are you supposed to get excited? That's the one thing I'll say about WrestleMania again: they ended where my kid could watch it and go to bed. And then if you're like getting your kid into the Timberwolves.
Alrighty, playoffs, buddy.
Well 945.
Well like I remember growing up, I really liked the Kings, as well as the Bulls, of course, but I liked that run that they had with Vladi. And their games were on really late, so that always pissed me off because I wasn't able to stay. Up and watch those. Remember that Kings team that actually got screwed over the league? Literally screwed them over against the Lakers.
That was bullshit. But yeah, I just can't get into the NBA playoffs. We'll see. Like, you know, when we get down to the. I haven't watched one minute all year, really, to be honest with you, man.
So, um I got my sabers too, so I'm going to be watching. I'm going to be watching hockey. I'll watch some hockey. Yeah, my kids are really into it. That's why we're taping right now.
I forgot that we got hockey practice at 3:20. It's crazy because we like just finished the season a couple weeks ago and we did the awards ceremony. And then my wife's like last Saturday, she's like, oh, we got hockey. I'm like, again, how? And it's like, the.
It's like for the next six weeks going into the summer, like a skills camp thing.
So, just ridiculous, but he enjoys it.
So, that's how it goes. I wish he would. I want to talk NFL draft with you, and I'm going to do it from as casual as I've talked about it. Ever I do have to run this story by another human being first, if you'll be that human being. For sure.
Um I need I need you to be a judge of my behavior.
Okay.
Now, I'm careful. I should be careful with the story because I've told stories. On air. Or whatever this is before. And it does get back to me.
Like, I'll talk about stuff at the playground after school with some of the parents, and then a parent will be like, Oh, I heard you say this, or my buddy listens to your show, and he's like, Hey, is Bart talking about you?
So I don't want The person, I did something to a person. And I don't want them to find out it was me. But for the sake of the story, I'm still going to tell it.
Okay.
And it's not the worst thing in the world. Let me just tell a story. There is a car. that parks on my street. Every day.
for about a year. The car always parks on the street. Which is fine. But it's always getting tickets.
So, this car is always getting tickets. They're parked on my street.
Okay, I don't know what's going on, right? Fine. But there's been more than one occasion where I've seen the car Parked in a driveway. Also on my street.
So this person. Either has access to a driveway or lives on the street. Basically, they do not need, they do not need to be parking on the street.
So, what's the big deal about parking on the street? No big deal.
Well, the big deal is. They've been getting tickets constantly for a year. And every time I see this car, there's always two or three tickets on it. And it bothers me because This person must have so much money. That getting a $25 ticket five days a week.
is cheaper than the alternative. And maybe that's just cheaper than Parking. I don't know. I don't know, but it's bugging the hell out of me.
So Finally. The little Traffic person writes on the car. with an orange slip. You have 24 hours to move this car or we are towing it. And I'm like, thank God.
This problem's over.
Well, that was two weeks ago. And the orange slip is still there. And I saw someone get in the car, not move it, take the tickets off.
So I've seen this person, that's okay.
So I saw them get ticketed again yesterday. And then I ticketed them as well. I wrote a note. How many tickets do you need before you move your fucking car and I put it in the windshield? Is that bad?
Should I not have done that? I mean, it's a longer story than what the punch is, but I had to set up how frustrated, like, I'm so. Oh, just ignore it. I've tried. But this car will not move.
And if it, you know, even if it's the same car and it's the same license plate all the time, you're like, that's annoying. I see the same thing every day. But they've always got tickets, and I know that they can move. And it just drives me fucking insane. It'd probably drive me nuts, and I'd probably do the same thing to answer your question.
You wouldn't survive out here on the East Coast because, for whatever reason, people just fucking like park and abandon their cars for like weeks. And then everything gets down to like this huge traffic jam. because everybody has to try to change lanes because there's just this car. Parked there, especially where I'm at in Bethesda. Honestly, I don't drive anywhere anymore.
It's beautiful. I just walk everywhere. It's awesome. Yeah, I really don't drive much either. I dr I think the most Where have I in the last month I've driven to Soccer practice, which I could walk to probably.
Uh my kids swimming. And Pado. You walk the potto? No, those are the places I drove. Oh, you drove.
Gotcha. Yeah, yeah. Maybe maybe I could walk. I was like, how the hell would you get there? I don't know if you could.
I think it's 12 miles there and back. I could walk there maybe. I could build up to that at some point. I can see it. But that's my story.
So, short story long, again. I know that Mendoza is going one. I know that there are going to be some edge rushers going. I know that. Six or seven teams.
have multiple picks in the first round. I know the Dolphins have seven in the top 100 and people like give a shit about what they're going to do because John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Hafley are there like that is that is Packers That is Packer's self, like, but it's not. It's not like. It's not like, you know, friends spun off Joey.
Okay, that's a friend, and now he's got a spin-off. This would be like, not even if Janice got a spinoff. This would be like if. Tag, remember that guy that Rachel was messing around with? This would be like if he got his.
Who cares about the Dolphins because they have John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Hafley?
So I don't care about any of that, but. Mendoza to go one. He's got to I don't Have a feeling he'll be good. Maybe it's because of the Raiders. Maybe it's because he's like weird.
I don't know. I don't know. I I I I thought J.J. McCarthy was going to be good. I thought.
Panics is going to be good. I thought Fields was going to be good. Yeah. Maybe I'm not good at quarterbacks. I think Mendoza We'll be good to be honest with you, man.
Eventually. Um, you know, it's just the Raiders. I think they're probably a couple years away from being relevant, but at least they have some weapons for him to start off with, right? Like, Ashen Genti as good as he is. And is going to be.
Should the Raiders have drafted him? Is a top ten running back? I don't know, man, because that offensive line is terrible. Doesn't really matter like Josh Jacobs. I thought he was washed because that last year with the Raiders, he averaged.
I think like 3.5 yards per carry. I don't know. He was coming off a career worth season. Reason was. He was just destroyed at the line of scrimmage because the offensive line was getting no push.
The run blocking was terrible.
So they got to fix up the offensive line.
So I think that he's going to struggle probably early. Especially coming from a perfect system in Indiana. But they're going to go and got to go quarterback, obviously. You can't even bet this because it's like minus a billion. It's the safe pick.
He's like a PR dream because, like I said, he's weird. He's nerdy. I do think he's eventually going to be good. They got Bowers. They got some offensive talent at least.
So if they fix up the offensive line, he's going to be good. I think we already talked about this, man. I like Ty Simpson. I bet him a long time ago to go in the first round when it was better than two to one.
Now it's like minus 260. I looked at a couple bets before I jumped on with you because a lot of people are like, hey, what are you betting? Because usually I have like 60 to 70 NFL draft bets, but I've been in Florida for the last two weeks, eating mushrooms, watching goose.
So not as dialed in as usual. And I don't do this for a living anymore.
So it's like. I care about some stuff, especially making money. You know, like right now, I'm seeing it plus 260 that the Chiefs draft an offensive lineman. Sure, they could go defense. They need some defensive help.
They could always get another weapon for Mahomes. But last year, they fucking killed Mahomes. His ACL is torn. Two years ago, they got destroyed in the Super Bowl because Mahomes was pressured on 80% of his drop backs. I know they spent some money on the offensive line, but I think at plus 280 and it was even better.
It was like four to one. The Chiefs to draft an offensive lineman. That's a really good bet. But I didn't do like as many. I think I got like eight or ten.
I got Makai Lemon to be the first wide receiver drafted. I bet that nine to one. But I think that's down to like three to one or something like that. We could talk about some of these, but I do think that Mendoza will eventually be good. My hot take was, and Orlaski kind of stole it from me, and then everybody ripped him.
So I'm glad that I didn't have it first. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that I think Ty Simpson is going to be better than Mendoza, but let's say he actually gets drafted into the right situation. And right now, the two teams that are favored to take him are the Arizona Cardinals. In the Jets.
So I don't know if he finds instant success, but he was lighting the world on fire at Bama. He was a Heisman contender, and then against Oklahoma and Georgia. They just pressured the hell out of him and he really struggled. I don't know how healthy he was. And Alabama's offensive line wasn't very good, other than Caden Proctor, who I think is going to be a really good pro.
So I do think Ty Simpson could be good and will be good. And I think he's going to be drafted in the first round. I don't think that was like the craziest take. Everybody destroyed him for it. Um, he had a couple stinkers, but it was against top five defenses with a shaky offensive line.
And I don't know how healthy he was.
So, everyone thinks he's going to be fire, dude. He could make the throws. They think he's going to be like the second quarterback taken, but it's not going to be until the very beginning of the first. Or the second round. Which, if that's the case, like you said, it's the Cardinals.
At 34, the Jets at 33. Then you could also factor in, though, if Ty Simpson's not taken. And I'm the Jets. And now I have an extra day. You know, because you only do the first round on Thursday, yeah.
So they gotta probably want Ty Simpson not to be taken because then. You can like work the phones a little bit and say, if you want your quarterback, we've got your ticket. You don't have to wait for the quarterback. If he goes later, round one. Could the Dolphins take him?
Could the Browns take him? Could I? I don't. I don't know where else he would go. Yeah, I mean, like any of those teams could and should probably take them.
Honestly, though, man, um,. I'm not saying this is you know what's funny is last year I said it. Everybody said it. Everybody's like, well, don't take a quarterback. Don't reach for a quarterback like a Jackson Dart this year because next year's class is going to be so deep.
There's going to be Cade Klubnik and Drew Aller.
Well, all these dildos are coming out. Luke Altmeyer. But none of them are any good. But you know who I do think could be good? Is I still have not Beck.
I think Carson Beck is probably a backup. I think Garrett Nussmeyer could be good. I don't think anybody should draft him in the first round. Maybe not even the second. But that offensive line stunk.
He did have some terrible games, but like... I'm going to be honest. I blame fucking Brian Kelly. No, I think Nussmeier could be okay. I think Ty Simpson will be a good quarterback if right system.
Mendoza's the safest pick. I don't know. The quarterbacks kind of bore me in this class, but I do really like. I don't like Mendoza because he's a nerd, but I do like Ty. I mean, I like the prospect.
I think he's going to be good. I like Simpson. I like Nussmeyer. I don't think any of those other guys will be any good this year, though. Big thanks to our sponsor, BetterHelp, for partnering with us for this important conversation about mental health.
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Well, you mentioned Genty with the Raiders taking him, and now we're going to probably have a back. Go top five. Again. And your boy, Jeremiah Love. Dude, maybe the best running back in the last 10 years taken.
So where does he fall? It's a good question, man. Jets are two. Cardinals are three. Titans are four.
Giants are five. You know what's funny? I keep seeing all these New York guys, and they're like, Don't take fucking a running back. You can't take a love. I'm going to be honest with you, man.
Um I think whoever takes them, it's a really good pick. Even the giant. I have the sentence, but by the end of the time, I say the sentence. I'll realize what I've just said is.
Well, why would the Giants want to take them when they have Cam Scataboo and Tyrone Tracy Jr.? Yeah, I mean. Oh, okay. Yeah. No, maybe they should.
One dude fumbles and the other dude is running his head into a wall nonstop. I uh I don't know how high he goes, right? I think realistically, he probably shouldn't go. I mean, I don't think that I'm with the Giants fans. I don't think that they should, but I definitely wouldn't be disappointed because I think he's the best and safest player in this draft.
Now, again, like I said with the Raiders, you have to have a solid offensive line or a decent enough offensive line, but not even just because I'm a Notre Dame homer. He's awesome, man. I think he's going to be an absolute stud. As long as he stays healthy, like you could say about every running back, every player in this draft, I think he's a lot to have 1,200, 1,300 rushing yards every single season, score double-digit touchdowns, catch balls out of the backfield. He's going to be an absolute stud.
I mean, if the Giants got it right, which they probably did with the hire. Harbaugh and if darts the real deal, they get neighbors back healthy. I eventually think that that defense is going to be good, dude. They just have too much talent up front to be that terrible. Um, they have a lot of needs, but I don't think that would be a bad pick.
I think the Titans. Here's the thing, I kind of want to buy into Tennessee, man, because now at first. I hated the Robert Sala hire because I was like, why would you hire a defensive-minded head coach? When you have a second-year quarterback, like you drafted the quarterback number one overall, get him an offensive-minded head coach, but then they get Brian Dayball, who eventually I think is also going to want to be a head coach again, kind of like Sala last year in San Francisco.
So I think that offense is going to be fun. I think it's way too early to take a fucking running back, but again, I think he's the best player in this draft. Arizona, any of these teams that take them, I think they did it right. I just hope that um you know It's not a terrible offensive line or a terrible organization that kills him because I think he could be really fun. I think he could be one of the better players in the league.
Here in the next couple of years, I'm only choosing them because I literally just saw it on Twitter.
So, I'm going to look at this NFL draft simulator from ESPN. Yeah, let's do it. And I'm going to put the Packers. Obviously, we'll draft for them. Uh we'll do three rounds.
But I want to see also what they're going to simulate. And I'm sure this is on 10,000 different.
So we'll start the draft here. Raiders take, oh boy, Raiders take. Jesus, I'm not fucking slow down. All right, Raiders take. Fernando Mendoza.
Jets in this take Arval Reese, Cardinals, David Bailey. I bet Bailey. I bet Bailey just because I love this because people like usually, you know, you're betting on information and. People that bet big money on the draft are going back and forth. Like, I know that there's some people that are locked in on Reese.
I know some people that are locked in on Bailey. Like I said, I've been. Um, you know, uh, chasing in your eyes, a Peter Gabriel cover the last 15 days.
So, I just for fun bet Bailey, which I still think you could get two to one right now. I think that whatever, dude, I both of these guys are. I think Reese has the higher ceiling, like, he's a genetic freak. I think Bailey's the safer player, if that makes sense. Like, I think Bailey could be a pro bowler year one.
I think Reese could be like the best defensive player in the league in year two or three. You know what I mean?
So, Maybe they go higher ceiling rather than safer player, but I don't, I don't know. I'm going to take the two-to-one bet rather than lay minus 275 if I'm betting that. But I think both guys are going to be studs. Yeah. And here, like, I could probably reload this and get different picks, but I do see these guys.
They're going one or two and three, though, I think. But then everybody else, like Caleb Downs. Is going to be a top 10 guy. Ruben Bain Jr. is in there.
Jeremiah Love in this mock is six, but could go anywhere.
Sonny Styles. I see Jordan Tyson. I see Carnell Tate. I maybe the Chiefs don't get involved on the O-line. Maybe they go wide receiver.
Maybe they go maybe Saints go I receiver.
So I don't I don't know. This is where I'm trying to figure out here. Is this draft? Less predictable. Or is it less predictable to me?
Because This is like the most extensive draft preview I've done up to this point.
Well, like usually, man, when I'm betting the draft, I'm laying like minus 300, right? I'm betting information, and I'm like, this is a lock. I know that this team has taken this guy this year. I think it's like more fun just to kind of throw some darts at the wall. That's why when it was nine to one.
I took um Shit. I took um Losing my mind here. Uh give me a context clue. Wide receiver from USC. Jesus Christ.
Oh, Makai Lemon. Jesus, man, I'm losing my mind. I really am out the game. I took Makai Lemon to be the first receiver off the board at 9-1 because. His yards per route run.
We're the best in all of college football against zone defense. And what do NFL defenses all play right now? Nobody's going to line up. You know, they're going to, they're playing more zone than ever.
So I know he didn't have the best combine. I know he's a little bit undersized, but I think that he is. I'm not a player comp guy, but if I were, I would say Makai Lemon. Is Amon Ross St. Brown?
I think he could catch like 120 balls every year. He's not going to blow you away with his speed like he didn't with the 40, but he's got reliable hands and he could make the catches and he could run all the routes.
So that's nine to one. But see, on this board, they have Jordan Tyson. who a lot of people like. You know, so that's what I'm saying. Like If Carnell Tate is minus 250 or whatever it is to be the first receiver taken.
Take a shot with Tyson. Take a shot with, you know, Lemon, because I do think that there's some stuff that's up in the air here. I don't think that there's like a whole lot that's known. What I'm saying is, I think that the Chiefs have to draft a lineman. I know the defense wasn't very good, but.
You know, you're getting almost a three to one price there. We know Mendoza is going number one overall. We know those two edge rushers are going two and three. After that, I don't know, man, because I love Caleb Downs. But are you really taking a safety number four overall?
I love him. You could put him in the box. He could tie it. I just don't like when you're like, you can't take a safety. You can't take a running back.
And then they end up being one of the three best players from the draft, you know? Yeah. Like, you can't take Saquon and then he goes two, and then the Giants lose him. And then. He helps the Eagles win a Super Bowl.
Like, why can't you? He's going to be a top three player. Take him with the top three pick. And he was a stud as a rookie and he uh well like when he was healthy and then he um the year that they made the playoffs with Dayball, his first year with Daniel Jones, like Saquon was kind of the fucking offense, obviously.
So I'm with you. I think you take the best available player, you let the smart people make the decisions. I do think. We're not drafted. I think a lot of times people would draft, like, okay, we're going to draft this guy and have his rights for 12 years.
You're going to draft this guy and Hope you get the fifth-year contract out of them. And then he's probably going to go somewhere else. You're drafting for a lot shorter term window than I think you used to. And I don't, I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure teams have caught up to that, but I don't know if when we're thinking that.
We're thinking, oh, we're drafting Quay Walker. He's going to be here forever. Or drafting Rashawn Gary will have in the next 15 years.
Well, that's not going to be the case. Yeah. Also, uh, programming note, uh, we don't really have to rush through this. My son is actually getting a ride to hockey practice. I don't have to be team dad.
Being unemployed, like, is actually kind of cool, dude, because I miss so much, you know, no big deal, but like Entercom Odyssey made me rush back from my grandma's funeral and whatnot. But uh, now that I don't have a job, dude, um, like I actually get to like spend time with my kid, but now I'm relied upon to be like team dad. Wife needs anything, I gotta go do it.
So that part sucks, but it's actually pretty cool to hang out with my family. But we got some more time, which is good because I'm with you, man. Like, let's say that the Titans at number three do take love. I don't think that's a bad pick because you got to get Cam Ward some weapons. Sure, the defense fucking sucks, but you could spend money on the defense.
And again, like you can't take a wide receiver.
Now, I am gonna say this year, you can't take a wide receiver.
Next year, if you wanna take Jeremiah Smith. Go ahead and do it at number three overall. This year, I don't think you could take like Tate or Tyson or Lemon, number three, but like get Cam Ward a weapon, right? Like help him out and get him the best running back in the draft. I will say though.
Don't Trade up. For, like, the sexy social media project. Let's. Let's call out everybody last year. I always liked Travis Hunter, but I remember even saying it here: I said he's going to be a part-time wide receiver, full-time corner, and he's not even going to be the best corner in this draft.
He's going to be not even the best corner on his team. He's going to be cornerback number two. And everybody was like, no, man. Watch the tape, he's Justin Jefferson. That is the most insane comp ever, and how wrong.
Did they get it, man? I know the Jags made the playoffs, but Travis Hunter didn't, he wasn't even healthy. That might be the worst trade-up draft pick ever moving up. To number two, to get this guy that you think is this ultimate unicorn that, at the end of the day, isn't even a top 15 corner, and now you gave up so much. And now the Browns have two first-round picks.
Obviously, the Jags did better, so Browns are picking at 24. Um but that could be where they get Simpson, where does Simpson go? I'll put the thing back on screen.
So, in this, in this, just, I just did one out of 15,000 simulations. Ty Simpson, they're going to put at 19 to the Panthers. Why would the Panthers take Ty Simpson? They have Bryce Young. Look, this is, I don't know if Bryce Young finally showed up to him.
Maybe that maybe they're using John Lynch's AI system. I don't know. No, dude, the Panthers are building something. There's no way. I think.
Here'll be my mock draft, okay? Here, I'll give you the Ryan Horvat one really quick. And this is just kind of like throwing shit at the wall. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Mendoza.
Well, this is a very casual preview. It says so in the title. Good, good. I'm going to go Mendoza One. I'm going to go Reese 2.
I'm going to go Bailey three. I am going to go Jeremiah Love 4 to the Titans. I'm going to say that the Giants take one of the receivers. I'll go Carnell Tate. I'm going to say that the Browns take, I'll go flip.
Now, hold on. Do you change your Giants strategy because now they also have 10, or does that not matter to you? Um trading the Dexter Lawrence. Trade. Oh man.
Because they just had five and then they'd wait, but now they have five and ten. Do they not take a receiver because they can get one at 10? That's a good question.
Now I got to think about this. Right. Because Yeah. I don't know, man. The Giants, what a great move for the Giants, by the way.
All right. Let me redo it. All right, I'm going to go Mendoza one. I'm going to go Reese two. I'm going to go Bailey three.
I hope I'm wrong on that so I can make some money. Four, I'll still go Jeremiah Love. Five. You know what? No, I'll go with the Giants taking Sonny Styles, the linebacker for Ohio State.
Okay.
I'm going to go sh I'm going to. Hmm. I'll say the Browns are tough. I think the Browns actually move out of the pick. I think the Chiefs.
I hate being a trade guy, but I think the Browns move out of this pick. And I think a team like Kansas City moves up. I'll say. I'll say best tackle goes number six. I'm going to say the commanders stay put at seven, and I'm going to say they take Carnell Tate.
They could use another wide receiver with Terry McLaurin. I'll say one of the DBs goes number eight to the Saints. I think they need somebody in the secondary.
So I'll go with the Delaney dude from LSU. Number nine, where the Browns would be, I think, regardless, I think that they go guard or tackle.
So I'm going to say two offensive linemen right there. I'll go Fano from Utah at number nine. I think the Giants probably go offensive line at 10. I think they'll take the guard from Penn State.
So I'll roll with that. Number 11 is the Dolphins, right? Oh, we're still going past 10.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll say Caleb Downs doesn't go past there. I thought you already took downs. No, I didn't take him. I changed it up. Oh.
And then I'm going to go Ruben Bain.
Next at 12. And that uh is that our pick? No. No, we don't have one. We don't have anything.
Well, ours would have been 20. We would have been 20. Yeah, we we traded that though. All right, so I'm going to scroll down here and we're the Packards. Fifty-two.
I bet them plus two eighty to take a defensive lineman or an edge rusher, dude.
So here are the guys available. Get me a big, fast 6'3 motherfucker, 240 pounds that runs a 4'4, 4'5, and let's fucking crack some heads. No more bullshit. If they draft anybody from North Dakota, South, I swear to Christ, if they take a guard. I won't watch a game this season.
Then I'm fully out of the game. Then I don't even watch. football anymore. This is who uh would be available in this mock. Chrisbrazers.com from Tennessee, the wide receiver.
Yeah. Gabe Jackass. That's not how he say it. Edge. No Illinois guys.
No. That's a Jacob Rodriguez linebacker, Texas Tech. Fuck yeah, little dude, but he's a he's a killer. Keontae Scott, Corner, Miami. You can get, I mean, this guy looks like a Packer, Jennings Dunker, Iowa lineman.
Tackle who's probably a fucking guard, of course. Yeah. Malachi Lawrence Edge. Jake Golday, linebacker.
So, yeah, you're going to look at defense or wide receiver here.
Somebody asked about the big. Citrus Dominique Orange. I don't know where he is. Oh, there he is on this list. Yeah.
So, what would you take here? What would you take? Would you take a wide receiver or a linebacker, or do any of these guys pop to you? No wide receivers. I don't really want a linebacker.
I would take. I would get like The next Kenny Clark. You could use a nose. A defensive tackle, I would take an edge rusher. Honestly, I wouldn't hate them going secondary because the secondary makes me want to throw up, and I like to believe that.
Micah Parsons is going to come back. Like the whole season depends on does Micah Parsons come back as Micah Parsons? Because I know the haters want to call me out for this take, but. Packers make a run, I think, at least to the NFC Championship game if he never gets injured. Like, you can't rely on Rashawn Gary.
Vanessa had a decent season, but like, you can't rely on those Jabronis to get pressure on the quarterback. And again, Who won the Super Bowl? Seattle, why their defense? Who won it last year? The Eagles.
Why? Their defense.
So. Defense, defense, defense. I almost wish Goot would call me up and let me draft. I so all right, you're drafting right here though. Keontae Scott is probably going to take Scott, dude.
Yeah, I mean, you got to fix up that secondary. I'll tell you, Schneidman took Jennings Dunker. No, he didn't. Yeah. Weird on the athletic?
Yeah. God bless you for how much is that a month? Um Like ten bucks, but I'm paying 1999 for the year. Oh, okay, good deal. Good deal.
I told Eric the other day, I said, name. Yeah. I said, I love the athletic. I get 10 of the newsletters. I always reference it when I'm talking.
But I'm never going to pay full price for it. And he said, Thank you for your subscription.
So So we're, but I'm not going to let Schneidman dictate what I want to do here, but you're not kidding. He really hasn't taken Dunker. I'm looking at it right now. But before I looked that up, I did say that. He looks like a Packer.
He does. I mean, and again, like, you've got to fix that. Put me through your mind. Put me through your mind. It's Friday, Ryan.
It's Friday. It's Friday night. Packers are 52. They take an offensive lineman or they take a corner. What are you happier about?
A corner, honestly. I don't trust Goot. Without with these offensive linemen, I mean. But again, I won't crush them if they do go tackle because Jordan Love has been murdered the last two seasons. And you're not going to win a playoff game.
As much as everybody thought like Malik was the option, was the better man.
Well, now he's gone, so it don't matter.
Well, the Scott guy's 81 on Mel's big board.
So, why does Mel have him 81 and then ESPN's giving him 52? I don't know. I didn't even realize Mel was doing anything this year. I thought he was still bitching about Shador from last year. Yeah.
So do you want well where's the no where the fuck are the nose tackles?
So like what I like about Scott dude is he could he could tackle. Or you could take big citrus. Like he could tackle, but I don't know how like I feel like I feel like he's more of a linebacker. That's the only thing. I can see him getting burnt.
I can see him being ultra-aggressive. And, like, you know, a lot of DPIs, especially at the end of these games, and us kind of hating them, but I could also see him just being a dog. I don't know. I'm trying to see where Keontae Scott is going in other mock drafts. Do you feel like with the Packers not having a first-round pick, this is like the most like.
The most least the least interested you've ever been, I should say.
Well, I think there's two things at play. Yes, the Packers don't have a first-round pick. How are we going to get juiced up for Thursday? Also, you and I historically. Not only are covering football.
But we are working during the actual draft. I was at the draft last year. You and I have done many. Friday night shows together. Shit.
This will be the first year I haven't done a draft show in like 10 years. Me too, but I still might do one Friday afterwards. I'm still Friday night, is me and my kid watch SmackDown Night. I'm not changing that. Yeah, maybe I'll hop on with you if they take like the next deguara.
But after Friday night. And I think I'm going to hop on on Friday night. Any chance that they try to move up and get into the first round? 414-799-1250. Do the Packers move up for Mendoza?
Are we taking Scott? Yeah, we'll take Scott. See what they do they give you grades on this one? I don't know. Our next pick is down to pick 84.
Oh, give me Deion Burks from Oklahoma. A wide receiver? Fuck yeah. Let's see where our defensive tackles went. Oh yeah, a bunch of them.
So Dominique Orange. He went to the Vikings.
Somebody, uh, Mason asked about him.
So I was going to see if we couldn't get him in the second round, and then he goes two spots ahead. All right, you want your wide receiver? I'm happy with any DB, to be honest with you guys. And I'd be really happy with Orange as well. Like, I'd be really, really, really, really happy there.
We're going to take Deion Burks. Yeah, we'll go Burks, though. I'm a fan. How tall is he? Was it like five nine probably?
510 maybe. Those are the two picks we got. They got him at 5'9, 180. I thought we had more third-round picks, don't we? No idea.
All right, we got a C plus.
Well, we got position value good. We didn't make a reach. It says D on fulfilling needs, but who knows the Packers' needs better than us? Packer fans. Yeah, I mean like what do they want us to take there a tackle?
Not doing it. Should I start over? Yeah, let's do one more real quick. We'll do one more. We'll just do one more guys.
one more We're up against it. I do have to go buy a whistle today. For what? Practice unless I can find one. Also, this one has okay.
Wow, Ruben Bay going to the Giants, even though he killed the guy. Love at four to the Titans. And then I'm curious where Simpson goes. In this one. Do you see him anywhere?
42. To the Saints. Why would the Saints take him? They got their guy. All right, so at 52, we are going to pick Brazzers, it is still there.
All the same, guys. We could get a guard now. We could get Emmanuel pregnant. Gadarian Price? Let's fucking go, baby.
Notre Dame, no. Go up actually. I'm going to take Schneidman's boy, Judd Dunker. I want to take some, I want to see something. Take um.
Let's take a Jacob Rodriguez. Yeah, I just want to see what they give us. All right. And then we're also picking in the third round. Let's go with, let's take an edge, let's take Crawford.
All right. We could get orange. Oh, no, let's go orange. Yeah, now we're Now we're fucking cooking. All right, grade my draft.
See. Fuck them. What do they want? All right, do one more. Let's take a look.
Fulfilling needs, F. What do they want us to fucking take? Let's take a lineman. and see what they give us real quick. All right.
Yeah, we're just gooping around. Actually, I got an email. This one comes from Mark. All right, let's take Emmanuel Prague. No, let's take Dunker.
Yeah, good dunker. And then in the second round. Let's go uh Edge. Let's get Crawford again, I think. What about the safety, Kilgore?
Or w want to go with Ted Hearst? Everybody always wants the Packers to take a wide receiver. I think Matthew Golden's going to have a monster year. All right, now we got a C again.
Alright, so fucking the Packers just we can you just can't win man. What do they want us to do? No, we'll win. Let's see what happens now. Can we trade up in this?
No, I'm going to take. Garrett Nussmeyer. There we go. Fuck out of here, Jordan. And then I'm going to take Carson back.
Yeah, there you go. Grade my draft D plus. How's that done in F? I just took two boners at quarterback. I took Brian Braum and Matt Flynn.
Maybe they see what I see in Dustman. All right, run one more. Let me pick him. I just shut it down. All right, never mind.
Fuck it. Uh All right. Craig says, please stop talking about wide receivers.
So stupid. That's absolutely the last thing we need.
So annoying.
Well, I mean, they did like lose all their receivers, but I do think that Matthew Gogan's going to have a big year, too. Like I said, I plan on betting his season-long touchdowns when those drop. I think prediction: I think he scores at least seven.
So Dobbs is an eagle, yes? Yeah, Dobbs is gone. No, Dobbs is a patriot, or am I losing my mind? Who'd we trade to the Eagles? Wicks?
Yeah, Dobbs is a fucking patriot guy. Dobbs is in a paper. Wicks is an eagle. Vrab will talk today, you see him. Yeah, I did.
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So right now, the Chiefs, the draft alignment, plus 260.
Okay.
Mm-hmm. The Texans to draft an offensive lineman. Minus 160. The Packers To take a defensive lineman is plus 250. They're now the favorites to take a corner, plus 150.
Offensive lineman, plus 150. Defensive lineman, plus 215. Wide receiver, 12 to 1, plus 1,200.
Okay.
We don't have wide receivers. We have Watson, Reed, and Golden. I'm going to bet just a little like. Pizza money on wide receiver because it's fucking plus 1200, dude. The Lions are minus 325 to take an offensive lineman.
I'm going to bet 325 to win 100 because I really need money. The Broncos are plus 260 to take a defensive lineman. I like the Bears to take a defensive lineman, even though it's minus 140. I think that's a good bet. And then one more I saw.
What do you think about Where's it at? I don't think much. Again, I'm very casual about this year's draft. I might not even watch Thursday. I might watch the Sabres game.
I kind of like the Ravens to draft a wide receiver plus 185. What about that too? There you go.
So, our receivers are Watson Reed, Golden, Savion Williams, Bo Melton, Sky Moore. Yeah, I mean, I would assume that they probably like look for a receiver maybe later on. If Watson could stay healthy, he's probably wide receiver number one. Matthew Golden, I think they're probably going to have high expectations for year two. He's not a rookie.
Bigger roll in the offense, a full offseason. I'm not accusing Craig, the comment of this. I'm not accusing Craig of this, but I. I wonder. Like if you're a Packer fan How many Packer fans?
Know that we don't have Dobbs or Wicks anymore. Probably all of them. I don't know about that, dude. Packer fans are locked in, dude. Come on, no.
I don't know, but we have so many like receivers that We have like a Swiss Army knife. What is he talking about? None of them could catch the fucking football. Yeah, just because we have a lot doesn't mean they're good. What I was going to say was: we have a Swiss.
We have a Swiss Army knife of receivers. It's just that every. thing you pull is the corkscrew. They're all the same, but the knife works really good, but it's always fucking hurt. I think I'm going to bet.
I think I really am. I think I'm going to bet 100 on the Packers to take a receiver. What is the plus on that one? We're not going new, but it's 12 to 1. In the second round?
And it's in the second round. Like, what if one of these guys falls? I could dance with you in that. I mean, it's probably not going to happen.
So, if you're going to bet it, I'd say, like, pizza money, but like. You know, I mean, yeah, they probably go corner defensive line or offensive lineman. But if the right guy is there Again, I mean, we have high hopes for Matthew Golden, do they? Probably. They drafted him in the first round last year, but.
I don't know, it just never really clicked. Mm-hmm. I'd like to make a personal announcement. Uh-oh. I think I'm going to retire from DraftKings.
Yeah. So there was one night, I've talked about it, where I won a contest. I won. $17,000. Really?
A $5 contest. No wonder that you, when I asked you what you're doing lately, you're not rushing to hit the job markets. No, no, this was a few years ago. Oh, okay. This was the night LeBron broke the scoring record for the first time.
Oh, yeah, I was in Arizona, I think, covering the Super Bowl. Because I had him, and I didn't know what's Jalen Williams to take on the Thunder that night.
So I took them both. And then they both did well, and I won.
So I want a big, I'm only telling people this. Because would you like to know my career earnings? With that win in mind. From DraftKings. Negative $125.
I'm still in the green.
Okay.
I'm at four grand.
So with the $17,000 win. I'm at four grand overall. And I think I'm just going to dip now. I'm going to say, okay, I won on this. You know, I've lost about $1,300 betting the fucking NBA.
That's why I don't even watch the games, but I'm like, eventually, one of these underdogs has to win. And then finally last night We got two dogs home, and I'm still in the negative. I'm done with the NBA dude. What I was going to do last night, I was betting a little bit on Kelchie. You know?
Yeah, I can't hear.
So The Timberwolves were down 20 points or whatever. I'm like, I'm going to throw 100 on the Timberwolves. They won, correct? Yeah, but then I was like, oh, fuck, I don't have anything in my Bitcoin and I'd have to use a card. I don't want to do that.
So I never made the bet. Wow. And then they won. And they won. Are you going to bet anything NFL draft?
Unless you can convince me on something. Chiefs to take a lineman. Join the party. Is there a fruit parlay? Like someone takes Demetrius Orange, the same team that takes Lemon, the wide receiver.
Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe a bed MGM. Can you can I build my own props?
No, I wish. Fruit parlay. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna do uh I'm gonna wrap up with everyone's favmit favorite segment.
What's that? We're going to do a bit of a card break here. If you don't mind. Oh, little hockey? Yeah, so my wife.
Bye-bye. Yeah. Well the She she likes to go to goodwill. And I just need to get the link here to send to my phone. She actually go to Goodwill.
Whenever she sees cards, she'll send me a. Picture and say, Is this worth anything? And I told her to buy this 'cause If I do it on the show, I can at least write it off on my taxes. Oh, nice.
Okay.
When you When you lose $13,000 on DraftKings in the last two years. Yeah, what the fuck are you betting? It's all the lineup. Are you taking the Beck QL advice? Like, how are you losing all that?
Winning. Yeah, I got one of those emails the other day. Yeah. Winning is the worst thing that can ever happen to you as a gambler. That's what they say.
I decided. You think you can do it again? I do. And you can't except for in the NBA. NBA Fox Me.
Yeah, you can't. But I also don't really bet it unless I'm desperate and bored. Mainly board.
Alright, I need to set up my card cam here. Card cam. Do that. Card gam's really just me. I have to stand up and flex for a minute.
Stretch for a minute. Ah, that's hard to do. Card Cam.
Alright, card cam fell.
So. What she found. Was Yeah. It's a huge box of cards. But all I know is that on one end.
Normally they put the good guy in the front. Right. This is Randy Wood. Oh, let's go to card cam. Card cam won't work.
Jesus Christ. Card cam. Randy Wood. Randy Woods sounds like a porn star. And then on the back.
There's an official. It's a hockey official.
So I'm pretty sure $6.99 for the sleeve. Card game. Card game. Card game. I'm pretty sure.
These are going to be all hockey. And I'm pretty sure they're all going to be. Yeah. You know, Bobby Hole used to beat his wife. Yet the black ox outered them.
I didn't. Um My mother in law used to know some of the Blackhawks. Hopefully not him. I think it was.
Okay.
I think it was now.
Alright. Card cam fell. If there are any good cards here. There's a shop opening up. Near me the slab.
I just want to see if I honestly, I'm excited to see if I know any of these guys. They've got cards at the slab.net that you can already buy. It looks like this is all hockey. This is a bust. Card cam's also a bust because of uh Because my internet in this house is dog shit.
Yeah. Keith Acton. Tough acting, Keith Acton. Yeah, I remember him. You do?
I do actually, yeah. How what what year is this from? Score 91. Fucking dope, dude. The 90s were so cool.
Today I was on the treadmill at the gym, Flex Me, and they have like the long form network or whatever playing. They just play 90 movies all day. 90s movies, it's so great. And like shows. It's like Boy Meets World, and it was like the Babysitters Club, which, you know.
Wasn't really into that, but I did take my sister to see it.
Something like that. I'm still trying to think of these wide receivers fucking Craig is talking about. Christian Watson dies every year. Matthew Golden didn't score a touchdown until the playoffs. I don't know what to do.
These are all hockey. This was a bust. No, let me see a couple of these guys, though. Here's two I do know. Frank Zombo, Rick Zombo.
Frank's uncle, Rick Zambo. I always like playing the game, porn star or former 90s NHL player. Former Brewers are lever Brent Sutter. Wow, how about that? The raptor, right?
I know this guy, Peter Nedved. Yeah, Ned Ved big guy or it's Peter Patar. Patari. Yeah. Dude, these are all hockeys.
This sucks. What have I done? Yeah, Tim Shea says, uh, this show sucks. Mm-hmm. Oh, here's what I can flip on eBay.
New Jersey Devils Team Facts. Throw me out a couple. Huh?
Okay.
Do they have any of the facts on there? Oh, I don't care. I'm just gonna show you some cards.
Okay.
Fuck, these are all hockey. This sucks. Yari Curry. Yari Curry. Troy Gamble.
Troy Gamble, great name. Wasn't he in the movie SWAT? I don't know. Callen Farrell was though. Yeah.
Remember, L Cool J is just at the grocery store getting shit for his kids, and he gets the call. He's like, I gotta go. He just leaves his kids at the grocery store. Nathan will lafiat. Richard Something All right, my stream's going to shit because uh Something's wrong with my internet in this house.
Oh, I know this guy. Bobby Clark. All right. Well, seems like I'm going to end there. Since everything just fucking died.
ATT is going to get a nasty email from me, as is Goodwill. I don't know if I'm on or not, but thanks to Horvot. And thanks for stopping into the Winklerverse. Liberty Mutual customizes your car and home insurance, and now we're customizing this rush hour ad to keep you calm, which could help your driving. And science says therapy is great for a healthy mindset, so enjoy this 14-second session on us.
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