Packers meet playoff atmosphere with playoff style choke job, split season series with Bears

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Welcome into the Winkler Verse. My name is Bart Winkler. And I'm back in my basement. All right.

So the Bears beat the Packers 22. to 16 in overtime. The thing that bums me out the most Truly Um, and this is probably a good indoctrination. Is My kid went to bed. He's six years old.

He went to bed at 13 to 3. He was like fading, and then it was 6-3, and then the Packers scored. Um I made sure to tell him, hey, it's 13.3. And he's like, yay. And I'll tell you in the morning how it goes.

And I'm not sure how to quite explain it to him what happened, the 22-16 loss of Chicago. Other than uh This is the kind of stuff that happens to the Packers. In the postseason. And I know this wasn't the postseason, but it had a playoff feel. And the playoffs are on the line and the division.

is on the line. And so, yeah, this is at least the sea, at least we're not on the offseason now. At least we're not on the offseason now, but um But we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks against Baltimore and Minnesota, and we can dig more into that. a little bit later. I will put up a link if you guys wanna join.

We'll probably be here a while tonight, live on the YouTube. You can also check us out on the podcast as well. Spotify, Apple, and the like. This is the live streaming brought to you by Dan Shaney. insurance Um, where do I start?

Well, how did that happen? I think is the good. You know what, actually, here's where I'm gonna start. Here's where I'm gonna start. Because What are we two minutes in?

Two minutes in. I haven't freaked out yet. I haven't freaked out. Uh I will freak out for this uh nice Chip in from Wisconsin Sports 24626. All-time choke job.

MLF needs to go. Guess we wait for Brewer's season to start in April. Going to be a dull and frigid Wisconsin winter. I'll get to that a little bit more in a minute. Uh as well.

I I look I I am not raging yet.

So it's not quite five stages of grief because, you know, it's not the playoffs. This was a very harrowing experience. Oh, another $1.99 Nixon as CB1 is so cruel. Thank you. Uh you know.

Buy yourself something nice for Christmas, but I appreciate it. Um I I I am I have to stay offline. I have to stay offline. I cannot possibly. Go online.

I cannot listen. to any I cannot I I personally Can't Ever. Here A Chicago Bears fan. Give their reaction to this game. Because, well, look, I did look up what my guy Danny Parkinson had to say.

And he had said that's one of the craziest. Um Most satisfying Bears Moments of My Life. Danny Parkinson's. First things first. Overtime.

Ray John Bart season is over. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. What makes me the most upset? What makes me the most upset?

Is this a game in this moment? That we will be hearing about forever. We will be hearing about this game forever. The same way that we talk about that NFC North Randall Cobb game, the same way we talk about the NFC Championship game. And it doesn't matter we beat him two weeks ago.

And it doesn't matter that Malik Willis played, and he played admirably. It doesn't matter that Josh Jacobs essentially got benched. None of that stuff matters. What matters is they lost. They were down 16 to They had that field goal.

And I was so pumped because it's like, oh, now they don't have the two-minute warning and they're going to kick, and then they kick the on-site kick. I'm like, fine, go ahead. You know, then they show four for 46 or whatever. And then it goes right to Romeo Dobbs. Everyone's blaming Versace, but Dobbs had it.

Dobbs had the ball, and then he. Didn't. Um They scored a touchdown with some guy whose name. Doesn't even escape me because I don't even know it. Jade Walker.

And then in overtime. Uh, there's you know, a great throw from Caleb Williams after a great throw. To get to overtime.

So, this will be a game that bears fans. Talk about forever, and they should. But the problem with that.

Okay, the reason it upsets me. Is And this was always going to happen. With Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams and them not sucking, because that's been what I've said about the Bears all year: they finally found ways to win this kind of game. You saw it against the Broncos, or yeah, no, against the Giants. You saw it even against the Raiders, like teams that they should be beating, but they weren't in the past.

They wouldn't have, and now they're doing it now. This is the kind of game that they normally would lose, and this is also the kind of game that we would normally lose as Packer fans. We know we have done this a million times. I always tell people: you want to be a Packer fan, watch us in the playoffs. I mean, the national audience on a Saturday night, and no one was watching James Madison in Oregon.

Um So everyone's watching this game. And it did not dip into Bo and Yang's Saturday night farewell.

So everyone's watching this game. Uh but It's not just that they won this game. When they lost the last time, they said we're seven points away. We're seven points away from being good. We're seven points away.

Well, now, you know, now they think they're there. And they they think they've moved on. The Bears are going to be hashtag king of the north. Which the Vikings, Lions, and Bears all say. I don't think the Packers have ever said the phrase King of the North.

Correct me on that. I'll take the L, but I don't. really think that they have. They're just it's it's It's a lifetime of emotion that's going to be poured out into this wind. And I just have to understand that is happening.

I have to let them have it. You know, it would be it would be bit I look I'm just I'm not going to rage Because if I rage, I will die.

Okay, do you understand? If I rage about this game. If I let myself. Get worked up about this game. I will die.

My heart will. Give out. My brain will explode. I will be a shell of myself. If I don't physically die, my brain.

It will be, it will be, I'll be brain dead. I cannot. Rage About this game. At least we're not moving to Gary, Indiana. These games have to be outside.

I'll touch on that again in a second. Um I can't rage about this game. I can't. I can't. And I'm glad that I'm doing this right now.

Because I had a busy day. Did some stuff with the family.

So on and so forth. Watched the game, knew I would be doing a stream. Stayed away from anything that would get me in trouble. Alcohol. Because if I didn't have this stream to do.

If I didn't have this place to talk with you all, then of course I thank you for. Being here. Um I would be drunk tweeting Jim Rutledge at ESPN Madison and possibly getting an Uber. to go fight him. I I I would be doing that.

I I would. I would there would be something I would say. It wouldn't get me fired. I've been laid off again. But Uh there would be something that I would say that like would end my career.

Not just radio, but Everything. It would end. I would get myself canceled. I don't know what I would do. But It would be bad.

It it would be It would be Very bad. All right.

The other comment from Wisconsin Sports 24626. Beautiful cat there. They can throw their parade in Gary, Indiana. Please don't move. As funny as it would be to move to Gary, Indiana.

As funny as it would be to move. Please don't move. These games need to be outside. These games need to be outside. Minnesota's already inside.

The lions are already inside. You can't call this the black and blue division. If everybody's all frosty warm under a roof. Did the Bears turn off the heaters? I hope they did.

That that that kind of shenanigans should be going on.

Okay, that kind of stuff should be going on. in these rivalries, but these games need to be they need to be played outdoors. They need to be played outdoors.

So Bears fans, I'm pleading with you online. I will help you. The way that Hallis would come up to city council meetings and stand by Lombardi's side, not Lombardi Lambo's side. I will whatever you need from me. You gotta keep these games outdoors.

I will help too. Get yourself a seltzer, my guy Ben. I will Whatever I'm going to do tonight, I will do after this. I just can't do it.

Now, I have to put my phone in my safe. I have to give my wife the key. I have to put my computer. I'm just going to bury my computer outside and let it freeze and fry. Um I I cannot Let myself be anything other than focused A knot.

Raging. And just thinking of these Bears fans, thinking of the Bears fans were there, thinking of the stands, thinking of everybody that thought they lost and they came back and they gave out towels for a regular season game. Just thinking of any of that is going to drive me nuts. I might just tell my kid that we won. I don't know.

He doesn't need. He knows the standings by heart. That little son of a. That little son of a me. Oh, I love him so much.

I love 'em.

so much Mr. I'm Still Dead Unleash Hell on Bear Fans Bart. That will be done. Everyone's going, I personally will die.

Okay? If I get as worked up As I It I feel it right here. I feel it. Right here. It's like a little, it's like a little kind of devil guy.

It's like a little kind of devil guy and he's like You want to do it, you want to get drunk, and you want to drunk tweet. Everybody you know, you want to drunk tweet everybody that works at the score. You want to say, Hey, I should be on your station still, and you suck. Good job, nice win. First time in 20 years, you reloved it.

I want to do it all. He's in there, he's in there. Maybe the only way to kill him is to drink him away. With a fridge thig. Dietok.

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And if the Packers are going to blow on-side kick games to the Bears, oh, hell yeah.

Well, hell yeah, this will end up. Thank you, backers. Not thank you, Packers. It fucking sucked. Finally, a swear.

The rivalry continues. I'm so ticked off. They gave up that game. Avie wants to talk about the wave. At least we got the wave going for us.

The wave. One last night in overtime. Yeah, they scored with like 38 seconds left. They were down 6'4. Then it was 6'6.

Then they scored in overtime, and then the game was 6'7. Tom Brady threw a 6'7 out there today. Tom Brady's really good. You knew he would be eventually, but last year he just needs to be Tom Brady more. When he's talking about DJ Moore, gonna get tired and then he didn't get set.

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So appreciate you for doing that. Uh Leo. Buckshot Bobby, I think we could all use a laugh. Do an impression of Chris Collinsworth if he was calling the last two minutes of that game. And by the way, the Bears fans, Green Bay sucks his real child.

Like, well, no, it went off Dobbs' hand and it just sat in there. The Green Bay Sucks chant. And this isn't going to make sense, especially the Bears fans, but it maybe won't even make sense to anybody. But Green, like the Bears still suck. is exponentially better then Green Bay sucks.

I don't know why. Maybe it's because they say Green Bay. And not something with the Packers? I'd rather they say like, fuck the pack. I mean, Green Bay sucks.

And they were chanting it as we go to overtime. Against our backup quarterback. And our backup running back, and whoever the fuck was playing wide receiver. I don't know. Dobbs, a total wimp, and stands on the sideline the rest of the game.

That's from Tom. No, that's what we call a, you fucking cost us the game, you're not going back in injury. That's what we call that. You piece of shit. You are not fucking up again.

You are not fucking up again. Lazarbro, he said, I recently watched a video about the recent history of the on-site kick. This is the first game winning on-site kick in like three years. Yeah, tonight was a very consequential day in football. The too shitty.

College football games today mean no group of six teams ever getting in. And the onside kick being executed and then leading to a win means we're never going to go to that fourth and fifteen thing. Uh which would be Sweet. No team finds a way to lose like the Packers. Fuck.

Packers aren't making the playoffs. Sigh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not, I'm not. Is that what we think? I'm not there yet.

I'm not there yet. Let me look at the playoff simulator. And I will toss out the link. It's gonna be in the comments. If anybody wants to join.

on video.

So if you can dig to the newest comment And you want to get on. I'm probably going to talk. I'll be on to at least, what is it, 1053? I'll be on till at least midnight. I may need another fridge sick.

So you might have to uh help me With that one, should we take a look at the playoff simulator? Real quick, let me take a look at the playoff simulator and then I'll bring you boys on here. with a little bit of what we call the share the screen. All right, we thank our friends at The Athletic. There's the Packers 9-5 and 1.

Right now they have an 82% chance to make the playoffs. If they win their next two games, they're pretty much in. If they lose to the Ravens and beat the Vikings, we're at 85. If they lose to the Vikings, okay, so 85% chance to get in. If we lose a game.

If we lose both, there's still a chance we get in. But I don't know. Tonight would have just been better if we were able to. Fucking get it done. All right, here's the Lions right now, a 22% chance to make the playoffs.

Let's say they went out. They're at 90. They look yeah.

So we need, I mean, okay. All right, that's what it comes down to. You know who I love? Is Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers.

Have always loved him. Aaron fucking Rodgers. You're going to get it done tomorrow, buddy. You are gonna get it done. tomorrow.

I'll go through some of the comments in a little bit. Uh, hot take Jake is here. Hold your horses, brother. Craig Thompson is here. And Tyler is here.

Gentlemen. Ben, I'll get you in a second. For my wife. All right, I don't want to go more than four at a time. Jake, you go first.

Okay.

So What the fuck, number one? Um, as soon as I swear, I think Wicks in overtime, he came up like half a yard short of the first down, and I was like, Yeah, they're not winning the game. It's like you just know it, you feel these things. Um, I do want to point out, fuck Chicago. Oh, I agree when he didn't get that.

I was like, oh, fuck, now we're going to miss third and one. It felt like that on every like there. There was like a ton of plays tonight where they came up a yard short. Like, I swear, like a dozen plays. And Greenbe's been really good on third down, but it still just felt tonight felt different.

Fucking okay, Chicago, good for you. Let me just point out one thing. You have beaten.

So good. Malik Willis. You have beaten Mason Rudolph. You have beaten.

Spencer Radler, you have beaten Joe Flacco. Uh should I keep going? You've beaten Russell Wilson. This is the epitome of the team with the horseshoe up their ass. They are not a contender.

I hope that their fans really believe it because they are not a good football team. This game tonight. This was the sequel to the Seattle debacle, as many have said, where if one out of 15 plays goes your way, If Jacobs doesn't fumble in the red zone, if Brinson doesn't come up with a face mask when they had Caleb dead to rights, obviously Romeo Dobbs shitting his pants when that ball was coming to him. That was the real backbreaker when he could have just let the ball go out of bounds if he was that scared to touch it. But this is just, it's viscerally reminding me of that game.

And This Leadership, the era of LaFleur Goudekunst has been known as the era of consistent inconsistency. I'm getting tired of it. It's the same shit every year. They fumble or they always do something under pressure. They make the big mistake.

Everything that could go wrong does go wrong. Down to the point when Dobbs fucked up that onside kick. They cut to a shot of LaFleur and he was absolutely shell-shocked.

So Chicago drives the ball down the field. They get inside the red zone and LaFleur is not using his timeouts. He's just letting them run the clock, run the clock. Like, are you, do you think that you're going to stop them and they're going to like have more clock if you get the ball back? He absolutely just stood there.

He didn't know what he was doing. His play calling remains garbage. One of these years, that stupid end around is going to work. The play where they fumbled in overtime and you have your, what, fifth cornerback in at wide receiver in motion. Your backup center is snapping to your backup quarterback and you're trying to get cute with it.

Just fucking line up. Run the ball down their throats. And if he gets stopped, you get stopped. I'm tired of his cute shit. This guy needs to go.

If that means Gouda Koons, who I've been a supporter of for a long time, wipes the slate clean. I am ready to lose. Austin's behind going like this, baby. I'll get you in a second, buddy. Fucking hey, I love you, Austin.

I will sacrifice these two wins because this team is not doing shit in the playoffs if they get there. If it means new leadership, top to bottom, ed policy, do your thing, man. Make your hires. Give Jordan Love and Crompany. Give Micah Parsons.

Give these guys a different set of leaders to work with. Maybe some true football minds, leaders of men, not fucking guys that look like they just came out. Of a Sears catalog, okay. I'm done with this team, it's bullshit. Fuck the Bears.

The Bears still suck. They always have. They always will. Caleb got bailed out. He's a.

All right.

I'm getting ready. Yes, I'm going to control myself. I'm going to let the other guys step in. This is the Winkler verse belongs to the verse.

So I've had my time. I love you guys. Fuck you, Matt LaFleur. Eat shit and die. Love you, Bart.

If you want to come back a little later, feel free. I got this tweet here. Oh, can it's talking about that? I can hear everyone else. Can you hear me, Greg?

I can, yeah. I can hear you. Hold on, hold on. I got one tweet, I'll go to Craig, because someone just said, and here it is.

Somewhere on the far side of forever. Dick Bucus, Gail Sayers, Walter Payton and Steve McMichael are smiling. The Bears beat the Packers, and Chicago is relevant again. Finally. good for them and they tagged me in it.

And I said I don't think Dick Buckis gives a fuck about a win over Malik Willis. Like, what the fuck? Uh, Craig, what do you got? Actually, I'm kind of disappointed because I really wanted to come on here tonight and say, like. how we ruined every Chicago Bears fans Christmas.

Because we had a beaten them because Obviously the way that game started. The Evian The opening tackle with the guy jumping on top and Going for the face mask was pretty weak sauce. And then that high school. Oh, we're going to make sure your heaters don't work. Kind of bullshit, you know.

But on top of all that, Bert, I want to let you know that. You can get over these. These rages that you have because I was once like you. I would have broken my TV tonight. I probably would have drank a fifth of vodka.

I probably would have gotten in a fight with somebody. But I'm going to wake up tomorrow and it's all going to just wash away.

So stay strong, buddy. You don't, I mean, yes, you are so funny when you go off. but if you really try to want if you really want to contain it you can my man You can. If I go off tonight, I'm telling you, just like, just like I knew to myself. Where'd Tyler go?

Just like I knew to myself. If I went to game five of Brewers' Cubs, That would not end well, win or lose. Right. And it didn't. I had a sloppy night.

So if I go off on the Bears tonight, it's like. I can't. My heart will explode. I know it. I know myself after all of this time.

Doing this as long as I have. I know myself. I know myself. I used to with the Minnesota, I got kicked out of the metro dome once. for starting shit after Packers loss.

I got banned from drinking beer at a Vikings games once at the old Metro Dome because I talked so much shit. I was right there. I don't know. Maybe, maybe where my life is headed now, I'm opening up to a new more Zen type of thing, but I can let you know, dude, that it does happen. And I'm gonna let you go, but I'm gonna let you know, man.

I hope you have a Merry Christmas. And I can't wait. I'm a, I'm jealous or I'm not. I'm sad because I've I'm sad because I feel happy because you're gonna have more. Of these And I like these, Mark, because you talk more local.

But I really am going to miss you on the radio too, my friend.

So I'm going to keep an eye out. And see where you land next. Yeah, I think I'm going to have about as many radio appearances the rest of my life as you have leaves on that Christmas tree. Yeah. Hey man, that's one of those cool trees that just light up from like six to 10.

Oh, all right. All right, man. You have a good one. I'm going to go back and listen to you on YouTube. Love talking to you, Craig.

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Tyler, can you hear me? I can hear you now. Yeah. Yeah, Tyler, what do you got tonight, buddy? I mean, how come every other team happens to have players that come out of nowhere that you haven't heard that all of a sudden?

Turns around the game or makes a moment, our guys stand there and look confused. Our defense, the entire time, they're running, they're playing fast. And yeah, we're gassed, but they had no idea what they were doing. I don't even know what Half Lee is. He seems overrated to me.

I haven't seen anything special. Why do we rely on only superstars for our why was this like an exact carbon copy of Seattle? Even the deep throw in the. Overtime. Austin, you're muted.

Fuck me. I heard you say, if you, I can, I think I can read your lips. No, I can read your lips. Fuck. Can you hear me?

He's definitely swearing a lot. Yeah, Ben, what's up? I thought Hafley Had a very good game. I don't even I have nothing to say about Lafleur. Look.

They put the chess pieces wherever they did. I mean, he could have blitzed more. There is another La Fleury thing I want to talk about that I don't really have a problem with, but Uh my family text chain is blowing up. Um But not to cut you off, go back to you, Ben, I don't like. The guys just didn't get it done.

Well the play call you had Where We blitzed from the the left side. And Williams got stuck in the pocket and threw the ball, and it was intentional grounding, was beautiful. Took him out of field goal range, everything. And at that point, I was just riding high. I want to go back.

I want to go back to that moment. But I'll yeah, I'll let Austin and Anybody else have a take? No, Austin went into this team. Austin, try to take your headset off. Just talk like a normal fucking.

No, I can't hear shit. Tim. Damn. What's that, Tyler? Can you imagine if we win this season without Micah Parsons?

We're not winning this season. No, well I mean like I think we win the night's game with Micah Parsons. We win the night's game by 15. Three times over. Oh my God.

Not even close. The first drive It was so apparent that we didn't have Micah Parsons from the first snap. But Bye. I thought that Halfley schemed as good of a game as he could scheme. literally held them to six points.

And then the wheels fell off.

Sorry, I'm doing my show, but I gotta fire off a tweet.

So here's what I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm so glad I'm not drinking tonight. I would. No, I think I'm going to take that part off. I'm just going to say.

I am so mad about how happy Bears fans are. They didn't deserve. to win this game. But But I understand They've been waiting for a moment like this for a long time.

So instead of being a Reijo. A Regio bitch. I am just going to log off and say good game. But imagine if the tables were turned, right? Imagine Caleb gets knocked out of the game.

Their backup quarterback comes in. And this is all in Lambo. I I just It's not an impressive win for the Bears. I don't, I don't. But that doesn't matter to them.

It doesn't matter. I live in Chicago. It doesn't matter. It doesn't, nothing, there's no style. They don't care.

And especially because the game was basically over. They thought they lost and then they came back. And that's what I said to start, Ben. This is. We're never.

No, I got to take the I gotta take the thing off for a second because it looks like Ben has this fucked up neck tattoo. And it really like startled me. I was like, Jesus Christ, man. What did you do to yourself? Yeah, last week I.

All right.

I was like, I was like, oh, fucking. That was like awful fucking uh wild. Um here's a tweet from Liam Murphy. Lions went out. Bears lose to Niners and Lions.

Packers win versus Ravens and Vikings. Bears miss the playoffs. If the Lions win out. If the Bears lose twice And if we lose to Baltimore but beat Minnesota, we still miss the playoffs. That's too confusing.

Just win the next two games, we should be fine. But you got to win those games. The thing about so for oh god, where do you even start? Here's one thing I want to bitch about. That hit that Jordan Love took.

Was it dirty? Was it not dirty? Whatever. Bears fans trying to already pre-convince themselves, pre-cult. Jordan Love ducked his head to take the hit.

Are you fucking serious? And they are saying it seriously. Like, yeah, Jordan loves sitting there, and in a split second, he sees a helmet barreling at his face. And he thinks, Should I get out of the way or should I lower my head? Because it'll get us 15.

I won't play again, and might fucking Die. But I need those 15 yards. Like, that's the kind of shit. That's also the kind of shit that builds up when you've been a loser for fucking ever. That's what you'll do.

But you've been a loser forever. You blame the refs. And if we would have won that game, every single penalty, they would have blamed the refs. Packers are, you know. I gotta go back to Chicago and deal with these people.

You at least get a break after this. Thank goodness it's a holiday, so everyone's gonna forget about this, and we won't see him in the playoffs. Do you work in Chicago? I live in Chicago. You live in Chicago?

Yeah. I'm going to ask one time. All right, I figured it out. Oh, it's been fun. Oh, it's Din.

Oh, it's Din. Okay.

All right.

I want to bitch about everybody that loves. Malik Willis and thinks that he needs to be the starting quarterback of the team. And I want to relay that to the people because they're all Matt LaFleur stands. They think Matt LaFleur's offense is amazing. And it would run better under Underneath Malik Willis.

Why is that? Why do you think why do those people think that? Because Malik, there's more design runs. He's running more. He's extending.

Slays, and he played a great game. He scored another game, he had great balls tonight. But he had a lot of, he had a lot of great throws, man. I feel targeted because I'm not completely there, Austin. I still, I think Malik Willis is a very good quarterback.

I think we have. And Ben, a starting quarterback as a backup quarterback. And that's awesome. Isn't that what we want? Yes.

We shouldn't have to fear that we're going to just lose a game because our backup's going in. We're not throwing Gardner Minshew into the game. Yes. We got three game. Minus the last three.

But he's not Jordan's lock. Hey, we gotta bully Wicked into getting in here. He says after bad take. Oh, God. You know, God forbid.

It is the worst dad takes. You know, God forbid Wicket shows his face in Wisconsin. He can stream all the way from Kansas City. He says he's nine and a half beers in. Get in here, I think you do it, buddy.

The fuck, Mike? Is he under the age of thirty? 'Cause he'll be feeling that tomorrow. No, Mike. Aren't we all?

Aren't we all? Uh one of my dearest friends.

So one thing that I am going like I can't I This is unfair of me. It's unfair of me because I then jump on after the game and then talk through my feelings. Right. But during the game. I don't want to talk to anybody.

I don't want to talk to my family. I don't want to talk to my buddies. I don't want to talk to these other guys. I just, I don't, I need to just be focused. I just, I get so, right from the jump, I was so stressed out.

My kid was doing something cute as ever with these NFL helmets, spinning some wheel on the phone. And then he just loves this shit. And I'm trying to have them watch the game. And he's, you know, whatever. And I'm just like, I gotta focus on this fucking game, man.

I'm just so stressed out.

So, one of my buddies. Just now. We're an hour after the game. Also, Willis is better than love. There I said it.

God. This, I'm going to throw it. I'm gonna throw it. With this shit. I don't know if people watch Packers game like other games.

I think there's too many Packers fans that only watch Packers games and watch the NFL with a Packers lens. Because you watch the NFL, the good quarterback play is very hard to find. Jordan loves a very good quarterback. But we expect so much and I don't Again, it's always going to go back to Rogers. It's always going to go back to Favre.

They're never going to give love his due until he wins something. I don't get it. The guy gets no interceptions, but gets ragged for every single one. And sure, the odd one is bad, but it's so rare. How can you really?

All that against them. I've got a great take. First of all, a shout out to Green Magic 6920. What a game. Three cheese heads.

It was a great game. It was. I didn't read this one yet. Or did I? Nixon is a bear sleeper agent.

I think I did read that one. Buckshot Bobby, you should get, or you could get Micah Parsons back, but had to play the rest of the year without love. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Ooh, fuck. You could get Micah Parsons back and have to play the rest of the year without love.

Uh-uh. But if we have Michael Parsons with Malik Willis, we win that game tonight, brother. No, no, bullshit. Let me give you my kids. No, you can muster up 60 points.

That's a great question. We're at. It's a great question. Mm-hmm. He's on Christmas vacation this week.

So we might have to come back specifically. For that one. Yeah. Okay.

Malik Willis is good. Give me Malik Willis is good. No quarterback can Micah Parsons. Like, I want, I'll take Micah Parsons back. I'll take Micah Parsons if he also plays quarterback.

Yeah, there you go.

Okay, Malik Willis and I'm going to bring Q in here. Oh, Jesus. Cheers, buddy. Cheers. And my real name is Mike, so it's kind of like Mike Wicket.

So. No, it's not. You finally dropped that on on the stream? Yeah, I don't think anyone knows your real name, Dr. Michael.

You told me that at the brew.

Well, I do. Yeah. Hey, you want to know something else crazy? Q's been in my basement. Yeah, I've been in his house.

Yeah. What the fuck? Are you a plumber? No, he dropped off. No, he dropped off some shit for the tailgate.

I just yeah, many moons ago. Witch, which Who wants to do that again? Let's go, man. Tail gate, tailgate, tailgate, tail, gate. I don't know if we can survive another 120-degree day.

Like, what are the chances of that? It's like the hottest day ever in Wisconsin. You know what? I'm not. I'm in it.

This is Winkler versus. 2.0. Yeah. I'm not doing vague platitudes. I'm committing to a tailgate right now.

I'm committing a tailgate right now. I'm committing to schedule out. We should live stream the tailgate. No, that's too rowdy. I'm just we did last time.

You did? Yeah, yeah. You did? Yeah, it was wild. Nice, it was great.

So, I forgot about the flame. Nice. Um It's a Milwaukee wave tailgate. Yeah, let's do it. Tell me.

Tailgate. Tell me it. Do we invite Victor Nagura? I know Michael King. Nice.

We're just throwing out old wave names. Yeah. Anyone else Q? That's all I got. Pat White, Pat White, the redhead.

I just remember going to Wave Camp, and every year I somehow ended up on the Djibouti team in the World Cup match. I got to be on the field. I was part of the Youth Soccer Parade. Nice. Okay, here's my take, though.

Here's my take. Malik Willis is good. Yes. He's not as good as Hold on. Period.

Yeah. I was just able. to compliment Malik Willis. without having to say anything about Jordan love. You can say a Malik Willis comment.

without having to then say, oh, Jordan, like. We have two quarterbacks. They're both good. What you want in a quarterback, backup quarterback, is to do that. And Tyson Bajan's the same way.

If Bajin had to come in, he would have been just fine tonight for Chicago. And then people in Chicago would be like, oh, but you don't want your backup quarterback to be a dog shit quarterback. You got to find a guy who can. Rehab it like Malik Willis. I used to watch way more Liberty than I like to admit.

Because they were undefeated and I was like, oh, maybe they'll make the playoff, but you know. Shitty schools are never going to make it again, but also, I would play him a lot in daily fantasy sports. And he would just put up like 50 burgers all the fucking time because he would run all over the place. He would throw for a bunch of touchdowns. And you got to see Liberty Malik Willis tonight.

And he's good, but Jordan Love, like once you got to, here's the thing: Malik Willis was good. When they got The final drive when they had a little bit of a chance with three timeouts. Did anyone feel good with Malik Willis there? Or would you? Give your right arm to have Jordan Love in that situation.

In overtime, did anyone feel good with Malik Willis, or do you need Jordan Love in that situation?

So, yeah, Malik Willis is good, but Jordan Love. Stay healthy in that game, and we win that football game. There's no doubt about it. Here's my take on on this debate is I think the cupboards are so bare. in this offense.

That it's really hard to judge either of them. And In an offense starved of weapons, Malik Willis is always going to look better because he has better legs. Hold on, hold on. Do you want back in, Craig, or are you just hanging out? No, I wanted back in real quick.

Nice, Craig! It's because I can grasp. Malik Willis is good, period. But why does Jet, or why does our head coach slash offensive coordinator always want to run? That wide receiver Pitch.

Yeah, and the handoffs to Williams were like clunky as shit. Wh it doesn't work. Why do you think it was going to work this time? when they were The Bears are looking for runs because, like, oh, Malik Willis is not going to throw the ball. And we were throwing him up, and all of a sudden, oh, there we go.

Inside, inside reverse to the wide receiver, well, nothing, huh? There goes Back to normal.

Well, look at this. Wiggler verse 2.0. Jonathan says, that was maybe the first time in my life I've ever supported something Bart has said. Yeah. Tail gate, tail gate, tail, gate, tail gate.

Austin, don't take this wrong way, but my aunt was wearing that same hat earlier. A question to the Winkler verse. To the Winklerverse. Real quick though, shout outs to Mark. Rich Bersace and Dubs won't be back in 2026.

Dub He'll be back. I don't I don't I don't know No, I don't have anymore in here. I'm not saying I want him back to Goody way. I don't know. I mean, Victor DeGuero with the save.

Nice. Michael King. I had a great Craig. Craig. I'm out.

Sorry, Craig. No worries. God, I love you, Craig. I love you, Craig. Maybe next time.

I love you. Love you too. Craig. Okay.

Yeah. Did you guys see Matt Golden on those last drives at all? I didn't feel like he completely disappeared. I know he wasn't up there that much, but everyone's injured. Dobbs is hurt.

I don't get it. I feel like he could do a slant here. I don't know. He's fast. It just didn't seem out there at all.

LaFleur looked lost. I still, he played an okay game. He called a game. He called the game that he wanted to play. The run-pass option, he.

But he just looked lost. Like, there's no confidence behind him when we're down. He just looks scared. He looks like he's never been there before. And let's not forget, he's one of the most tenured coaches in the NFL.

Tyler, and and Piggybacking off of that point. Is for all the people that say LaFleur would be a better coach if he had Malik Willis, then why did he look lost with Malik Willis? Good call.

Well, I don't think I thought LeFleur was fine tonight. I got nothing against LeFleur. You scored all the 16 points. Fuck that. We collapse.

We lost our quarterback and our running back, but right.

So, all the people that clamor for Malik Willis, Josh Jacobs fumbled at the goal line.

Okay, he threw a backward pass on the eight-yard line to move four. I don't know, man.

Okay, so then what does that come down to? That okay, what confuses me the most about the love Malik Willis. Play calling. Is the amount of motion LaFleur does with Malik Willis is insane? Why does it?

I mean, I know he does a lot with Jay Love, but like when Malik is in there, it's like. I don't think love is that limber. I'm not like receiver motion and everything. I just don't like it, it changed so significantly. He has like a whole offense from Alik Willis.

Well, it seems like he doesn't trust love. Really, I would agree. I think it's been how many years, and he still doesn't trust love. And I think it's disgusting ear to ear. When they drafted him.

So I don't know. I didn't draft a guy. I think that's another thing to be said about the draft position. It's like Malik Willis was underdrafted, and Jordan Love was probably overdrafted. What's more likely?

What's more likely? That LaFleur's a bad head coach, or that Jordan loves a sub park quarterback. I think I'm going to go. I think you might be in the top 15. Yeah.

But with flashes of being a top five, I think he's got more Jalen Hurts. Without with the inability of the running, but like in that. He's better than hurts at throwing the ball. Is that the right word? Like he's he's in that tier of like.

Can be really fucking good. And Jalen Hurts won a Super Bowl. Could have gotten MVP in the one he lost. And I think love can be that kind of a quarterback. I think.

Jesus Christ. I I'm I'm really Like, we've got four more years of love either way. Like, I'm all for them. Yeah, but like I'm very over the love and LaFleur. Yeah, let's bring some models in.

Couple things here. Couple things. couple of things. You got to read it. Mike says At Bill Michaels, isn't vaping?

Is there a word missing there? But but I bet part is or uh Grant is Yeah, Austin is. Jake, who's well, Jake, you're welcome back in. Jake throws a 20 spot. Which will go to the tailgate.

What hell game. Just wanted to show the love. Thanks for the event sessions. New coach, new GM, new special teams coordinator. Yeah.

Four new corners, a witch doctor to keep this team healthy next year. And let's fucking go. Also, Giannis, please shut up. Yeah, why what why did his personality just change? He wants all a part.

It's because he got married. Q, just because you have the freedom. One other thing, hold on. We got to stand by. Because Somebody tweeted me.

And I'm sorry to say this. They said you need to get better guessed on the post game. It looks like a chat roulette get together. And let me say this: to those new into the Winklerverse. We are not guests.

That are meeting Austin and Ben and Tyler and Q. These are not guests. No, no, no. We're friends. We're family.

These are not all your friends. They are better than that. They are members of the Winkler Verse. It is a prestigious, well, I guess a family. It is a prestigious thing that they have all just decided.

on their own accord. To jump on and become a part of this thing and to show up on occasion or a lot. And that's what the Winkler verse is. One of the reasons I was not. Considered for the late night position, perhaps, was my show's not interactive enough as I talk to four fucking non-broscast strangers.

But this man I would let him take a bullet for me. And that is Tim Yes! Shea! Didn't say that! You had the train station?

Well, Timmy. Hog Where are you? I am I am in Chicago. What? Were you at the game?

I was at the game. No. No! Show us your shirt. What are you wearing?

Oh my God, that's brilliant. Nice. Look at that. Tim, I have breaking news. Yes.

We are Going to do a tailgate this summer. Yes, I am in. Oh, did you go to the last one? I don't think you were there. I could cry right now next to my Christmas tree.

Yeah. Tim was there. Was he? Oh, I was there. I was sweating my ass off.

Yeah. Yeah. How was the game? How was the game experience? It was great.

It was great until about what? A minute. 35 left? How How many times did you say Seattle and/or NFC Championship game? Oh my God.

It just just Ah the haunt of that, the the ghost of uh Okay. Just I can't do it. I can't do it. I cause I saw it. And I saw the like I literally saw the ball sit there.

Wait a minute. Are you at a mall in the 1990s? Where the fuck are you? I want to be there. At a hotel.

Looks like he's in jingle all the way. I'm in Chicago. Hey, Jingle all the way. You look like you just got 20% off the whole bag of Yonkers. Tim, I will Venmo you $500 if you tackle that tree.

No like you gotta go full tackle. 500, Tim. God. I keep thinking about it. I can't get this off tonight.

Have you been drinking, Tim? I have. Set that phone down and tackle it like you're Michael Parsons. How much? A lot of, a lot of.

Wait, what, Mark? How much? For how many dollars would you tackle that tree? I do it for Two thousand dollars. You got five here.

Five powerball. Let me track the powerball. Ben's saying he's gonna do it, he's gotta check. He's got a Powerball ticket. We can't hear you, Ben.

I'm sorry. I can't. I would love to stay on for the rest of the show. I can't, but I just want you to know. Since got a lady.

I was. I we were, I wouldn't say we were celebrating, but If what It was pretty close to Seattle. It was pretty close to all right, we recovered the son's kit. And we are winning a division next week.

Well now none of that's happening. Yep. And now we just are looking for one win here just to clinch a playoff spot, which I guarantee we come back here next week or we come back here in the playoffs. Did Tim get muted? Or is it?

We will win. No, it's a good idea. If we go back in the playoffs, we will win, he says. We Wild card weekend, we will win that game. I guarantee you.

The fact that you win? I got 28 and 69 on like three lines, and I also had a 20 for a powerball a couple times. Listen, but I didn't have the right combination. I have to go. But I'll join you during the week.

I like your little thing. We're taking this local. That's great. It just brings back memories that we're taking this national. Brewers, damn them.

I love all you guys with Christmas trees behind you. Also, I saw Rick Schlesinger at the game tonight, too, so. Was he ta was he tweeting about curadon? I don't know. So I guarantee you we come back here in what?

Three weeks, we'll get a playoff victory and And did the divisional round, so. All right, Bart, take it easy. Good to see everybody. Fire, what are you doing? Oh, you get your tree.

I love the tangerity. All right.

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Sorry, Jake. I had you muted. On mute, you were just. You were futzing with the. Oh, Q, I got a tree because everyone's got trees behind them.

Yeah. Jake, what's up? Q's too woke. He doesn't celebrate Christmas. It's happy holidays for Q.

Hey, you know what the rule? You know what? I invented a rule.

Okay.

Okay.

He must not, Jesus, he must not have liked that. I was I hope he realizes I was kidding around. Whatever someone says to you. You say back to them. I just think If you're offended by happy holidays, you're kind of a pussy and you need to rethink things.

Yeah, settle down. I think sometimes when I say, you know what's happened to me in my life? People will like say Merry Christmas to testimony. Eight days a test for sure. It'll be like, Merry Christmas.

I'll be like, Yeah, Merry Christmas.

Well, here's the thing. And they'll be like, you're saying Merry Christmas? I'm like, the fucking celebrate Christmas, asshole. Is it not just like the courteous thing to do? Like, I'm not going to assume you celebrate anything.

So, whatever you do, hey, I hope you have a good one. Yeah. When did being courteous become a bad thing? Yeah. I was trying to turn the lights on.

Alright, I'm done with that shit.

Now I got see now I gotta clean this all fucking up. Shit all over me. All right.

Jake, thanks for the tailgate money. Yeah, anything I can do. Um I'm sitting here in my boudoir. I'm surrounded by one of my cats, Mr. Mac, over here, and my wife that doesn't want to be on camera, so there she is.

Mm. What are hi wife? What are we doing? Let's get back to the tailgate. Are we doing a weekday or should we go with a weekend?

Do you want to have a Saturday, Friday, Sunday? What do you want to do? I volunteered a grill. If you need someone. I will.

I got to get back in touch with Matt. He was an expert last year as well.

Okay.

But we can fire two up.

Well, for me, it's got to be a weekend. I became a casualty of society and I no longer work for myself.

So. Um yeah. Correct. Nice. What I would like to do is I would like to I mean, they're not going to be.

Good seats. But I would like to buy at least a hundred of the seats. Yeah. I want to buy the seats. But wow.

Is there a suburban package or what? There's a Packer package. You have to have at least 20 or 25 people, and you can go beyond that. But why do you want to buy the seats? I can buy $116 seats.

It's a casual flex. Why would you do that? We'll just pay you. How much is that? $1,600.

He's got that shit.

So, my new decision is: you guys pay for your own tickets. Yeah, just buy them and charge us 20, and you make some money. Yeah. We all care about you. I'm sure you're fine, but like you don't have a job.

So we'd love to give you some sort of stream of income. Not only do I not have a job. Um I'm not even going to look this time. I'm either gonna wait. Did you look last time?

Oh, I was I was batteries plus. I remember that. I thought that was a bit I was I was like a finalist. I almost got a job with uh the Boys and Girls Club to do communications for them. And then they hired somebody else, but I was, I had like three interviews with them.

Isn't that like what John Cena does? Or no, that's make-a-wish. I interviewed with Waterstone Bank. I'll shout out Waterstone Bank. I got no connection with them.

I interviewed with Waterstone Bank. It was on a Friday. And it was two people. Huh? Doesn't Radio Joe sell cars now?

You should do that. He's killing it. But I did. I need a new car. Sell me a car.

Talk to Joe. No, I want to talk to you. Get a job. I'll buy a car for you. You're not selling cars.

You want me to connect you with Joe? No. Well, Joe, I think, listened, so he's going to hunt you down now. Joe, I need a three-year-old car. I got more kids coming.

What? Yeah. Congratulations. Oh, yeah, that's what I meant. I'm assuming that's a good thing, Q.

Congrats. Oh, yeah, real good thing. Bart's the truth. What? Bart here's blushing.

This is a rarity on the show. Bart is blushing. Yeah, usually when Bart's red on the show, it's because of his pre-show activities. Yeah. Or he's constipated.

No more drinking and doing shows. Didn't you? Didn't did you hear what I told? Did I tell Horvot that, or I told Grant and Paul? I think I told Horvot.

I don't know. You told Rami. Oh, yeah.

Some of those early shows, I'm just so. Bloated in my face. It was the gout. And yeah, and drunk. Times are tough.

There's one show. There is one Packer. What was the Packer post-game show? It was the day after they lost to the Brewers. No, no, no, no.

Are you sure you're maybe ah, pretty big? I was so drunk that I just deleted it. Yeah. You delete, repost it. I want to see the show that you did.

And then I didn't drink again until I went back out to Denver. That's for the Patreon members queue. You should do a Patreon, Bart. Yeah, I did two months ago. Is that where you get the feet pick?

The feed pics. No, that's I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what Patreon is.

Well, Trev says kids plural. You said you have kids coming. Stay tuned. You're not your girlfriend. He's got a rebound.

Can we get a mention about how much Nixon sucks? Oh, yeah, let me get back to the game because I still haven't asked you guys the question I was about to pose 15 minutes ago. But I was saying a thought. What was I saying? You were talking about Malik Willis and love.

No. Something else. Oh, no, it was Parsons at first love. Forget it. Mr.

I'm still dead. Brewers versus Diamondbacks. Tailgate, end of April, might be cold. If you do end April, that's when we're expecting in my family. Whoa, kids.

I will do a full-on survey to every member of the Winklerverse. To make sure no one's left out. Q, are you like, um, are you inheriting kids? Like, is this like a new marriage kind of thing or like? This is a post-game show.

It's not the. You brought it up. What? We need to give all the new viewers a taste of what the real Winkler verse is here. We talked about the game for 30 minutes.

Actually, can I get it?

Okay, no, I got one on the game. I got one on the game. I got one on the game. Okay.

How much time did they have left at the end of regulation? 28. 17 seconds. Yeah. It was 17 seconds.

We had 24 when they kicked it off. Are we okay with not forcing it down the field? Because I am.

So, Matt LaFleur's wife told me that that's all he needs: like 20 to 30 seconds, and he gets it done. I I was kinda quite pissed that they ran a play. And didn't just kneel on the wall. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, if they would have fumbled, it would have been.

Tragedy. I mean, if we had fumbled and then they kicked the field goal to win. Would that have been a worse way to lose? Yes. But here's the other thing: he got rocked on that play, and I'm pretty sure he was feeling it going into open.

And you know why we lost? Because Cairo Santos is from Brazil, so he knows about soccer. That guy's a good kicker. Best kicker they've ever had. Bringing back into the Winkler verse.

Tack is returning to the show. Tack. Hello, Tech.

Okay, boys. How you been, buddy? I'm fine. What you been doing? What do you mean?

Yeah. Hold on. Professional reset. Ben's here. Jake's here.

Tyler's here. Q's here. Tax here, when I asked what you've been doing, I meant in like the last two years since we've spoke. Yeah, I mean I've been raising my children.

Okay.

I don't know. Hey, Treb's pumped you're here. Uh there I I've been hearing very familiar voices. I don't know uh faces to voices, but I I've been hearing very similar similar situations here.

Well, we got the name tags under the on the video, on the Dan Shaney video. Nice to meet you. I have been getting some Carl's Place YouTube. Or not YouTube. uh voicemails but For some reason my phone audio sucks now when I try it, so I have to do it a different way.

Anyway, what's up? What'd you think of the game besides it sucked ass? I mean, I'm sure you guys have spoken about it. I just tuned in like 10 minutes ago. It sucked.

I don't usually get upset about like losses by our teams, but this one hit me hard. Uh not because it was the bears, it was like a 20% Bears situation, but like The fact that we could have Essentially clinched And we didn't because of the ending of that game. It was hard. It was hard. Um I'm pretty bummed by it.

Um We still have a we still have like a chance towards the uh NFT North Championship, right? I don't know. I'm kind of just thinking playoffs at this point. I mean the Bears play what the Niners and who else? Um They play the they would play the Lions.

The Lions, I think. Yes, the Niners and the Lions.

So if they lose to the Niners. And then Yep, and then the lions. We have a chance to win if we beat the Ravens and The Vikings. I went through some shitty scenario before. We just got to win.

Did they really? I want to beat the Bears in the playoffs. Let's go. Let's play them again. You know, if we would have tied.

And the Lions would have lost. Tomorrow they'd be out if we would have ties. If we had two ties, I think I'd stop watching football. When I logged on, you guys were saying we would have beat Them by 15 if we had Micah. I think we would have beat them by 10 or 15 tonight if Love would have stayed in the game.

I want to play them again in the playoffs. Fuck them. I don't know. I know how hard it is to beat a team three times in a season. We didn't.

Not to beat a homer. Yeah, we did. We beat them once. Hey, David, uh David in Buffalo. Thank you, dude.

I love this guy. He says Eagles want a Super Bowl being good in the trenches. He must be. Are you commenting? I don't.

But I got your voicemail. I haven't listened to it yet. I wanted to play it. Um Wasn't able to. Fake Micah Parsons says hi.

Fake Micah Parsons. Ah, that's nice. We miss you. We miss you. Come back.

Can I propose a question?

So is We lost Micah and we lost the Broncos the previous week. I thought that was the worst regular season loss I had seen in years. Like the gravity of the loss. Was tonight worse? Like Great question, because here's, let me tell you what I have for you.

I have a stat. This is from Next gen stats.

Okay? The Bears' win probability was as low as half a percent. Before recovering an onside kick. This is the fifth Most improbable win in the next gen stats era dating back to 2016. I want this game to be irrelevant.

I want everyone to go back from Christmas. I want Bears to flounder. I want to beat them in the playoffs. I want to never hear about this game again because I've heard about the last season. You are going to hear about this game for the rest of your fucking life.

Dude, you don't understand. I had to hear about the last game of last season for the past eight months. The game that we had nothing to play for. But that is the biggest deal for them. Lisa, oh, Lisa was at the game.

She's a Packer fan, husband's a Bears fan. They're dispatching hats. You know they bet oral too. Yeah. That's like one of my oldest friends.

Fuck Jesus. At this point, we're lined up to play the Bears in the first round. Let's go. After Brewers, Cubs, I cannot do Packers, Bears, leaders. Bulls playing game.

Yes, what's Bart? Do you have a second screen pulled up? What's our record against the Bears in the playoffs? Not regular season in the playoffs. I'm not Google, Q.

Hey, well, I do want to ask. If that next-gen stat thing was around when they played Seattle, that has to be the most improbable win in the history of the NFL, right? Was this like the same fucking thing, though? It was. Literally one more play goes your way.

In any, like it one out of 12, pick a play. If one of those goes your way, you would. The difference was. Um, they made a two-point conversion. Also, why didn't they go for two?

I wanted the Bears to go for two. No, no, I was leave. I was saying the Bears Packers have played twice. What tag? I cannot believe they didn't go for two.

I was sure that we were going to go for two. I can't either. Can I tell you why? I can say why they didn't do it. Because they knew they'd win in overtime?

Well, it was the emotional swing that happened after the onside kick. Again, as soon as I saw LaFleur's stupid face, I knew the game was over. I figured Ben Johnson was gonna like uh Uh, snap it between two players' legs and then, like, I throw it backwards and then run. That's the thing. Like, we haven't even talked about that because so much shit happened at the end.

It's like you prepare for. You know I bet newspaper writers are going to be like, oh, I had my story all written, and then I completely done it, but I don't know, I don't because of the.

Well, yeah. But this game, this, so what I said before to Tyler was this game. This game. The game last year, they are, oh, you know, block field or whatever. Just a leader.

This is their NFC championship with BJ Raji. This is their. This is their Aaron Rodgers winning the North, Randall Cobb. Randall Cobb. I wish Caleb Williams would have belted us.

That would have been. Hold on. I got a little bit of rage. I got a little bit of rage 75 minutes in. Terry has a comment.

He says, bunch of cry babies. Four uh laughing face or cry emojis, Bears win. I gotta, and now on Rage segments, I stand up and yell into my computer.

Okay.

Okay.

This is what we came for. Because a Denver Broncos fan did this to me last week, and this fucking Denver Broncos fan looks. Think of any guy that you've ever hated in your life. Oh, I. Yeah.

I want to almost like. I gotta find someone that looks like him. He just says like the right cut beard. Do you look like Matt LaFleur? No, he just Stop.

LaFleur's hair looked back today. He looked back at it. LaFlora was a six. The hair was a six. His hair was like a ten.

I thought a seven. The beard was beard brought it down. This Bronco fan looks back at me after they scored a touchdown and he goes Why are you sad? And this guy's saying bunch of crybabies. First of all, We haven't really like.

Been b I I we haven't Also Do you under fucking stand how sports work? Your team what? Our team lost. You are happy. We are sad.

You talk with your friends about how happy you are. I talk with mine about how sad we are. Stop being a fucking asshole. Anyone who does clown emoji. Or cry more.

Blocky, I'm gonna block you. Fuck that. I'm gonna Fucking take a shit on your staircase. Tired of this. Did that happen to you?

Why is this a concept? Their case. What? Is that like a shit slinky? What happened to you, Bart?

He's so bad. Nagay Davenport was his roommate in college. You never like put a shit shit in a bag and lit it on fire? Oh, like Billy Maddie. Don't wear your boots, Larry.

I meant porch. I meant porch. I'm not going to go inside and shit on a staircase. I meant I imagined you in the house on the staircase. DE.

I did the elevator last time. I need a tack take. Let me get a take tack. But what? I don't know, the game.

I think Q's proud of himself 'cause your name sort of sounds like the word take. Right. I like alliteration. There's nothing on it.

So the tack take tonight is. There you go. Tonight's tactic. Uh is Presented by Tic Tac. Yeah.

Yeah. We were better than the Bears. It was a. Horrible loss. Um We did everything we needed.

Um I don't know, man. We're better than the Bears. If we see them in the first round, we will fucking kill them. At Soldier Field. I got a take.

Can I have a take on that? This is this isn't gonna make sense, but when you go to bed at night And lay down, it will. Ready? We're not only better than the Bears. We're better than ourselves.

I think I want Matt LaFlore to take a sick day, and we'll see how good this team really is. Also, can you put Charlie's comment on the board, Bart? Don't tell Bart his business, Devil Woman. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a Billy Madison quote. It's hilarious. Better segment, tackaways or shakeaways? Oh, tackaways. Tackaways is good.

I like that Tim was here. Did you see how hard he thought about tackling that damn tree? Slowly. I've never seen him think so hard about anything in his, like, since I've seen him on the show. We could come up with another 1500 real quick.

I almost upped it, but I didn't actually want to give him the money. I did my part. I mean, we remember we're all like, oh, he interviewed a guy with a fork? If this motherfucker tackled a tree in a hotel lobby, dude, that would have been amazing. That would have been so cool.

Dwayne says we're entitled. What are we entitled about? They don't call it entitled town for nothing, buddy. What are we entitled about? At least our team's not moving to West Indiana.

Has a third good quarterback in the row, and they want him bench for Malik Willis. You had to say, West Indiana, born and raised. No best letters he was talking about. Jake? Yeah.

Oh, I got you. It's not talked about enough deck. That is so embarrassing. Even the idea of your team is going to play in a different state. Like, how bad would we be getting roasted if they were like, well, Green Bay needs a new stadium.

They're looking at Duluth, Minnesota. You know, it's just, it's a better spot. You know, there are better taxes. Like, that's fucking embarrassing. No, even though they'd be moving our team to like Quebec or Toronto.

What what have we played in the UP? Right. I love the UP tech. What's up? Can we talk about the leak willis though?

Yeah. Can he not start in the NFL? He can still be able to next year. Do you play him the rest any point the rest of the season? Like, just for a drive?

Do we bring him into the offense just for that? I mean he Dolphins, Jets, Saints, Browns. He threw some beautiful He threw some great passes, and he can, he's more mobile than Jordan Love. I mean, I'm not going to say that I want to replace. No, I know, I know.

I'm not going to say I want him to replace Jordan Love, but like. Like he can play. Absolutely. There's not many. Like, there's not 20 good quarterbacks on planet Earth right now.

So he can definitely play in the league. Yeah, so he w could he be a starting quarterback? Uh Another team. Yeah, I think it's the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs.

I think he's a Viking next year personally. A voice. I don't know how to coming back. Mahomes is coming back week one. Week one?

That's what he said. He wants to do it. He'll do it. He wants to do it. He'll do it.

Okay.

Yeah. Patrick Mahomes he's the gamer he come back Do we know that love will be back next Saturday? I think we assume maybe. Yeah, concussions are only a one-week injury now. I hope that if he does come back, it's all in your head.

It's an unopened question. Cushions are all in your head. He should be the first quarterback to wear the halo dome like Dobbs. That would be amazing. Did Tua ever wear that?

A Halo Dome? No, he was against it or something. At least he got paid. Yeah, you got paid. What's funny is that I heard the like up.

Concussion protocol, like they they go through some rigorous testing. And I don't think I could do it sober. It's like, have you ever been so? It has to be coach. It's coach.

It's a coach thing. I think. Also, the other thing about Malik Willis. Is yeah, he gets in there and then the floor is like all right Here's some plays I know I can run with him. And so he runs them.

And we saw him when he started, they went two and two, right?

So Start Malik Willis for a year. What are you this? Are we better than what we do? We are when we start Jordan Love? No.

I would rather have this team with Malik Willis and no Matt LaFleur. Yeah. Masless lore is the root of all evil. Thank you. Hey, everyone.

Okay, three, two, one. Everyone talk. He's the anger.

So here's what I want to then. I want to just say: if you're the Titans right now. You could have Malik Willis back or Cam Ward. Like, what are you doing? I can't trade.

I haven't seen Cam Ward play. Let's trade Malik. and LaFleur to them for their first round pick. That would be great. They're the same player.

Like, uh But it was. And Jordan Love are very similar, but Malik Willis is More elusive.

So he runs more. He can run away. He didn't even win this. I would say they're totally different. I would say they're completely different.

I don't understand Packers, fans. We lost. Yeah, that's what it boils down to. We definitely would have won with Jordan Love Healthy. Yes, yes, yes.

What we have? Only one word. Kev really wants to say Malik Willis. Who scored more points? Uh Per time.

Well, I don't know what that means. I mean, like, yes. Starting. Yeah, you're right. Guys, I think we're reaching a natural conclusion here, if I must say.

Before we go, I really talked about it. Can we talk about the end of your show and be all drunk and appreciate you? Do you have any questions? Sure, go ahead. What do you think you're gonna do for YouTube?

Is this like your goal? Is to like bring YouTube into something big. Do you have any ideas? I mean, is this a new chapter? You keep saying that you're not going to look for other jobs or other things, but you've been doing this YouTube thing for like two years.

Do you think you got to figure it out where you want to give it a shot? I am going to Unless some job offer comes to me.

Okay.

I am going to see what I can do with this in 2026. That's what I think you should. I have a question.

Well, hold your you interrupted Tyler. Oh, sorry. When you when you um When the previous job was done, I messaged you and said, look, it's You're at the right age, you're at the right time, trust your instincts. You're going to be a national guy, and you became a national guy. I think deep down, you want to see where the YouTube would take you because you see there's real money in it.

You see there's real engagement. You want to be. People engaging, and even in the radio market, that's been hard, and that's been your thing.

So, you brought it in the national level, and we're very successful. It's been Great the past two weeks here at the national level. Talk about what you bring to all of us. Um, that's why I didn't call in because I wanted to hear their voice, I wanted to hear. I've been with you since day one, so I know what you're about.

Um Oh, let's start with YouTube for a year.

Okay, I believe.

Okay, well, go ahead.

Sorry. If anyone can look at YouTube a different way and bring something out of it, I think you can because. We're millennials and we have buying power. For the love of God, someone should give us what we like.

Well, I'll tell you this. I started so I started the pod because There was a lot of people like, oh, you should try to do a pod. And I didn't know what I was going to do. Um And then I mentioned the other day Ty Windish. Works with Blue Wire, and he's like, hey, I do my pod on Blue Wire, and we'd love to see if we could do something with you.

And so I'm I'm with them for Even I'm with them for a while anyway. Uh but yeah, when when the national show started I said, guys, I do this podcast. Because there was some guy in Chicago that wanted to get back on, and they're like, no, Odyssey, we got to own your pod. And so I thought, oh, fuck, the pod's gotta go in there. Like, oh, we don't give a shit.

I was like, oh, okay. And then I kept the pod going. Because I knew.

Someday I would get laid off again. I didn't know when it would be. But I knew it would happen again. And so I wanted to keep it going. And um That's why I kept it going.

I think I could have done more with it during that time, but I think it's in a good spot and we'll see what happens. I have a quick question.

Well, Ben had his hand up. I can wait. It's fun. Thank you. Did did you ever like ship?

Yeah, I like chef.

Okay, yeah. Shep and I had some rocky episodes, but I like Shep. I like Shep. Those are my favorite episodes. I like yeah.

Well, we talked about the other night on the show. He wanted the job. Oh yeah, no, he it was so clear. He was like Such a douche. He was out to get you.

What is TAC doing? But if you need a job, let me know. Yeah. What kind of job? Ben, what's your question?

It's not a question. I just want to say, you know. When the Bart Winkler show was on air back in 2016 the What is it, 2022? But I love Chuck and Winkler. Chuck and Winkler and the Bart Winkler show and everything.

I mean, you got me through a lot, Bart. Like, drives the work. Walks outside at work, driving across the country, whatever it is on the radio. Love you on the radio, man. And you have.

But Incredible on your Wisconsin takes, your national takes, your entertaining, and Just really appreciate everything that you provide. And you know, I'm I'm a Part of the Winkleverse, it's awesome and Thank you. Friend, thank you. Can I talk about my favorite moment from back in the day? Sure.

When you asked Gary Woefel what is Top three Bucks players were. And he gave, I believe the third one was like some guy from Indiana college team or something like that, where he kept pushing him, like, are you actually a Bucks fans? It was the funniest thing ever. Like the fact that you called him out after. Years of like calling.

There was an interview that we did with Gary. That might be the one. But where I just like Hammer it off. It was our best podcast, like the station had seen. It was Jabari Parker.

It was. I don't know, Michael Redd or something, and then it was, oh, this guy from Indiana. Oh, it's an inside joke, you wouldn't even get it. No mention of the Bucks organization, and that was the beginning of his downfall. He was just no longer on after that because everyone knew he was full of crap.

I've met Gary a lot. I just saw Gary at the NFL draft. He Gary was Heat uh Gary was like very good. I don't want shit on Gary. I know, I'm going to say he was really good until he wasn't.

It was like Twitter kind of took him down a little. Do you know, speaking of Gary. I talked to Gary Ellerson the other day. Bing. I think he is the funniest person on earth.

I miss Gary. He is the funniest fucking person on earth. Funnier than Leroy's? Gary, he's just so funny. He's, I just, I love him.

I listened to him with building bridges. I listened to him with Homer's. Jerry and I, we had that bridge as sturdy as it's ever fucking been. He. It's just not the same.

The vibes on the big show are so good. I missed the I missed the core big show. The best moment in the history of that station was when Leroy Butler said the word gaunt on the air. Um But I think the best Winkler moment was For me, but I'm not dying. Yeah, he's not dying.

He's still here. He's right there. He's gonna wave their favorite moment.

So I get to. That's that should be allowed. Um, the Bill Michael sound bites that were put together. My God, like I was. Oh, but the draft?

The fact that you put that on the air. The draft interviews. Yeah. They were edited together. They were wonderfully edited.

But that was pretty cool. Pretty ballsy. But I'm not sure if I can do it. I absolutely claim that the Bucks stayed in Milwaukee because of him, by the way. Absolutely.

I listened to that entire thing because I know the Bucks were leaving. And he lived with that for a year. Um Before I forget, too, since we're spreading the love for our buddy Bart here. I always appreciated that you kind of made the show. For the fans, you know what I mean?

And not in a cliche way, like, this is your show, but like someone calls into the show. Every other radio show that you listen to, the host is just waiting for you to shut the fuck up so they can interject what they want to get across and they want to, you know, push their agenda. Whereas Bart would genuinely listen to people. Like Think about his response to what they said and not cut them off after the six seconds that they got on the air.

So I always thought that was really cool. You got a guy who knows his stuff, but also would give people the forum. And that's a wonderful thing. And I'm going to be each other in another life. It's the best comedy, too.

Hold on. Hold on. I got to see if you hear these or not. And I've already played these, so there's nothing wrong with it. Yeah.

Hold on. God damn it. Bart, do you want me to blow some smoke up your ass too? Did you hear that or no? No, we can't hear it.

Okay, maybe if I share the screen.

Okay.

It's worse than if you do. No, I will. I'm just trying to. I think you just gotta squint a little. Let's go to Mike Denbrock, Cincinnati.

Oh, we can hear it. You heard that? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, ready?

There's two of them I have. And now we can't hear it. Oh, there it is. Coach, how you doing?

Well, I'm doing fantastic. How are how's life in Green Bay? Subject making Uh A lot of times it comes down to how willing you are to kind of stick your face on somebody.

Okay.

Um Stay safe, okay? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. That was Josiah DeGuara's coach. Yeah. And I got one more, the John Runyons coach.

Okay.

Ready? Uh Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Uh Ed Warner. The Michigan offensive line coach joining us now on the Schneider Orange hotline.

Coach, how are you doing? I am doing fantastic. How are you guys? What do you think?

So I think shut up! My point being is stop it! Um yeah. I made a comment earlier that I guess I don't know why. I don't know if we put it on this headset anymore.

That's so funny. I had five of those clips. I just hope that I am around when Bart has to give his Tom Brennan speech on the air. Like, because it's going to happen one day. You look like a mafia is about to take a hit on you.

Jake? Or me. Yeah. Yeah, Jake. For the black, he just saw murder, and that was the Bears beat the Packers.

I look like that in a documentary, and I don't want to divulge my identity. I'm calling my shots. Come on, keep it back. Packers are are going to beat the Bears. Tyler, is that a gambling?

Yeah, I'm not happy with them either. They pissed me off too. Hey, the fact that every Milwaukee newspaper raved that Yingling was in town with such an advertisement and so bullshit. That pisses me off, too. I don't care if these guys are on.

I'm in North Carolina right now. This was in the fridge. This is what I'm drinking, but screw these guys. Yeah, I don't like it out of a can. I'm a big fan of the tab for the Ying Ling.

Yeah, you do the booze, you lose. Um, you guys think Giannis is getting traded or what? In the office. I think he wants to go to Greece. Doesn't his wife live in Greece?

Yeah, yeah, and she hates Hiscott. Like, she left, and like, New York to Greece is not that much better of a flight than Milwaukee to Greece Private. I heard she left America because somebody made a weird comment to her at swim class. But I do want to say, Giannis, if there's any pro wrestling fans that watch or listen. He has X-Pac heat with me now.

Now, if you don't know what that means, if you're a bad guy or a villain in pro wrestling, you wanna get what's called heat. Which means the crowd hates you and they boo you and they come out and they have vitriol for you. But ex-pac heat. It refers to somebody that, like, they're not doing a good job as a bad guy. They just.

You're so sick of them when you see them that you turn the channel.

So when I see Giannis talking to the media now or like on a podcast. I literally just groan and just go, dude, shut the fuck up. Like Just grow a set and tell us what you want. I'm tired of the passive aggressiveness. Like He wants to leave.

I don't think there's any question on that. The consummate family man does not move his family across an ocean unless he's trying to prove a point.

So, have some set of balls, come out and say, hey, this is no longer working. It's time for us to move on. And then everybody can move on and just have a clean break. Like, do it the respectful way. But the problem is.

Giannis has built up this character. That he is just the naive kid, and he's just, he's all about loyalty. And you know, I'm just a fun, loving guy. He doesn't want it to be his fault when he has to leave.

So he's trying to have his cake and eat it too, and it's pissing me off because You established, or you went all these years establishing that this is who you are. You had to have known that if things go south, it's going to look bad on you.

So I I respect the Bucks for like not just rolling over. And dude, if you want to go, that's fine. We're not trading you wherever you want to go. You get the best package you can. But I do think he's traded before the deadline because if he's traded after the deadline, the team that acquires him will not be able to give him the supermatch.

This dude talking out his ass in the dark. Do the next one. Do the next one. I would love to hear somebody report. He knows nothing about Giannis.

Please mute him. Yeah. Yeah. I think Giannis wants to play in Greece. I really do.

Tim came on about 45 minutes ago. We almost had him tackle a tree in a hotel. Tackle a fucking tree. It was a big tree. That it was at least a nine-footer.

Look at this.

Someone put it again. I bought into that one. Oh my god. I think that's AI generated. Hey, Bart.

No, it's not. That episode of AI now. No one's going to. No, no one cares, Jake. We're all, we've already, yeah, we've all done what you've done internally.

No, we're already, we're already like, fuck it. Who cares? Bart. Are you seriously going to fill in at uh At the fan. I I would.

I don't know. I that would be awesome. I have already. Can you make it pretty clear when you're going to be on so we can listen? Yeah, I've I've probably filled in there like six, not six, maybe three times.

Really? Oh, yeah.

You filled in for Sparky, right? Yeah, I just never said anything. Um I think you and Josh would be good together. Thanks, Bart. My chat.

He's down in the morning. He's really funny. I haven't listened to the radio since that happened, so I don't know. Oh, it's bad. You should listen.

There's some good shows. All right, I'm wrapping up. Any final Packer thoughts? I'll start. God, I'm I'm I this was good for me because I stayed offline.

And I have to make sure I stay offline because I cannot. Yeah. I cannot fuck it up with these Bears fans. I just have to let them have it. Congrats to them.

I just had to fucking let him have it. And you know, who love me are Bears fans. I'm a big hit on 670 the score. Or I was. Um Should I counsel and try to get my way down there?

Did Robinson? When I found out I was losing my job. I was excited about two things. One, trying to. See what I can do with this.

I am happy not to be doing, I can't do another year of late nights. And I feel like Canadians would always be like, what about the Blue Jays? Like, it was like the randomest stuff. Yeah, like if someone's calling you up to talk Philadelphia Flyers hockey, like, what do you even, you know? How do you handle that?

I like the late nights because it helped me stay off gaming and get shit stuff done around the house and listen to a radio show. It was pretty nice for a while.

Well, I liked, I mean, I liked the late night. Like, I like the late night radio. I liked what I was doing and providing. I just You know, I mean, it's not like digging ditches, like Chuck would always say, but. Man, it just it's hard.

The fucking shift is hard. You could do uh Locked on Brewers with Chuck. You guys could tag team it. Mm-hmm. I'm going to try to get a lockdown wave going now that I'm What about lockdown Milwaukee Pro Soccer?

We're locked on Admirals. I'd love a pro soccer team in Milwaukee.

Well, the wave is good.

Well, the last time I got laid off, I worked for one and then they vanished. Oh. Bart, are you like the kiss of death or like what's going on here? Yeah, I tried pro soccer. Windows Select got sued.

Batteries plus one out of business. Like, I got laid off twice. See. Hey, maybe you should go work for Trump. We don't be political here.

Oh, sorry. See you guys. I heard actually, what do I care? I don't give a shit. Political.

In a world where AI is clearly becoming a bigger part of our life. These community things are more important, and you've always been focused on that. I think that's where you stood out. I think that's where the past few weeks so many people have been saying so many nice things. Rylar, would you like to be my agent?

We listen to the radio, and I've been die-hard sports radio forever for 20 years, and I worked in a factory. And It's all the same now. Nothing special. And you say you burn bridges, but you burn bridges because you're pushing people to be better. It wasn't like, yeah, that's why I hate people.

I don't hate people because any other reason than they suck. Yeah. All right, I'm gonna log off, but that was nice. We hear you, Tyler. I've been having issues with the app all day.

But Love you, brother. See ya. Oh, this guy got laid off from Sears. That's a long time ago. Like 15 years ago?

Because hey, is Sears still a thing? I don't know. Mark Sears? Go Pat Go. Go back, go.

Um. Yeah, I'll be back next Saturday. Be working through this one for a while. I don't know, man.

I'm willing to sacrifice these last two games if it means LaFleur. and possibly Gouda Kundstar gone. I'm not. I want to win. I just want to win.

I want to get in. I want to feel this loss again, but in the postseason. Jake, you know what's going to happen? Is we're not going to make the playoffs, and they're going to all come back, and it's going to suck. Yeah.

Yep. Better not happen though. At least Colston Loveland got me a few points in overtime. I really needed that, actually. Can I over on four touches or what?

Huh? What'd you take for the Loveland line? Oh, I just got six shitty points with fancy. Oh, okay. I did do one of those.

You know that Kelsey bullshit? The predictive markets. Mm-hmm. My buddy's really into that, and so I did it. And then I bet $100 on the Packers.

And you can cash out like any time you want. And you held on to it? No, I cashed out. I cashed out when it was 16.6. They had like a 92% chance of winning and I'm like.

Fuck, I know this team. I'm not fucking waiting around for an extra seven bucks. I'll take this money. You should have like checked to see the exact time stamp of when you cashed out because that might have been when shit started to fall apart. Like, it might have been you again.

Kiss a death, Bart Winkler. I had to do it.

So, what did you cash out then? Like, how much did you get? Uh what did I bet? You said you bet a hondo. I thought I did.

Oh, I only bet 75.

So what did you take away then?

So I won't. Seventy. That's good. That's the only person who won tonight as a Packers fan. And then, if I would have waited, I would have lost all of it.

Well, yeah, I'm happy. I got 140 instead of zero. That's the positive that we can leave this with. I want to try to work these motherfuckers for like an endorsement, but I don't want that stupid Kelchie logo next to my fucking Twitter account. Even though I bought a check mark like a piece of shit.

Everybody's got a price, pal. Yeah, I bought Twitter now. I'm a loser. I'll try and get the company I worked for to Maybe you could Do a little promotion for us. Why are people still on Twitter?

Why are people still on this? Is this our watching? Or is it just three people? Have a good night, Jake. I'm going to bed.

Thank you, everybody. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Much love. Thank you all. I could call on the Chef Show.

I'm up. I could. Thank you all for stopping. No, I signed off. I got to stay away.

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