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Frank Reich was fired this morning from the Carolina Panthers

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November 27, 2023 3:47 pm

Frank Reich was fired this morning from the Carolina Panthers

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November 27, 2023 3:47 pm

Chris McClain, Mac & Bone/WFNZ, on where the Carolina Panthers can go from here after the decisions they made and keep making.

Can we trust David Tepper to make the right decision? What angers you the most about this situation if you’re a Panther fan? The players or the staff? What is the ceiling for the Carolina Panthers with David Tepper as their owner? This scenario is similar to other ownerships in different franchises. How do the Carolina Panthers get out of this without it being another 5 year plan?

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See website for details. 99.9 The Fan. I'm Adam Gall. That is Tim Donnelly. We are here. It's a special fan football tailgate because I was preparing diligently for our whole staff meeting at 9 45 today. And here comes our fearless leader, Paul bursting through the door.

No meeting today. Frank Reich was just got fired. I know he didn't say it quite as eloquently as I did, but yes, not basically 90 minutes ago was when the news came out that David Tepper had relieved Frank Reich of all coaching duties. And he had to, I guess the obligatory, we thank Frank for his hard work. I think Frank Reich is a guy everybody liked as a guy. I do think he worked hard.

I do think he tried it just for reasons, both of his own doing and not of his own doing didn't work out. And, and, you know, I think David Tepper has to look internally on some of that. I think Scott Fitter, the GM, who was not included in the, the release.

I think he needs to look internally, but, but also Frank Reich, you know, if he wants to get back into coaching, I think there's some things he can, he can fix also. Let's talk to Chris McLean from Mac and Bone in the Morning, WFNZ in Charlotte. This news based on David Tepper dropping a thunderous F after walking out of the locker room yesterday in Nashville, following the loss. I'm sure this news didn't surprise you, but what was the mood at, I guess around 9 45, you probably didn't want to leave the air. What's up, fellas? Well, first of all, Adam, being a long time morning radio person, we definitely, during that break, when we found it out, cussed about the fact that they do this when we only have 10 minutes left on the show and all the other day, part radio hosts like yourselves, they get all the juicy stuff.

That was my first selfish reaction as far as the move. I don't know. I started wondering, I guess, if Tepper was just going to wait until the off season, but I guess that is an indicator.

Now, if Tepper ever in front of the media in a public place screams the F word, I guess that means the next day someone's in trouble. Man, I don't know. You're almost numb to the latest wreck of the trains around this organization. It's just depressing. If you don't laugh, you're going to cry.

You're going to scream yourself crazy. But here we are just a year later, fellas, doing coaching search radio again. This is becoming our specialty in the city of Charlotte, and we might be doing GM search radio soon too as well.

That's what I wanted to get into, Mac and Tim here. How surprised were you that it was Frank and only Frank when the news broke? Were you waiting for the second part of the release where Scott Fitter's name was included? Yeah, I definitely was wondering.

Okay, we're doing this one at a time. I think a lot of people now are wondering, are you going to put the trust in Scott Fitter to go another off season here? I don't know if that's a good idea based on the track record of the front office.

It's not just Fitter. Everybody that's been involved there. I love Dan Morgan, man. He's one of my favorites around here, but he's been involved in it, the whole scouting department. It really makes you wonder if we need a total front office cleanse to go with this coaching staff move.

I'm still wondering if that's something that's going to come soon. The Raiders, not that we really want to model ourselves after Mark Davis' organization, but they did it all at once a few weeks ago and started over. It kind of feels like David Tepper needs to completely start over. The problem is though, are we supposed to have faith that David Tepper can choose the right GM and the right coach? Because right now he's 0-2 on the coaches and he's 0-1 on the GM. And that's just the Panthers because you and I have talked about how he is 0-4 however many with Charlotte FC. Hiring head coaches has not been his strong suit as an owner of major U.S. professional sports franchises. Chris McLean from Mac and Bone in the morning, WFNZ in Charlotte.

I put up a poll recently. Obviously, Frank Reich was a problem, but was he the biggest problem with this particular team? I think Tim and I have already talked about it. We both believe that it's the roster. That's the biggest problem. Not that Frank did a good job because he didn't cover himself in glory, but the roster is no good. Yeah, I mean, we're talking about that today. Like what angers you the most? The players that are on the field trying to block, trying to freaking get separation, you know, or the coaching staff.

And it's pretty mixed as far as fans around here. I do think the biggest problem is, first of all, you start with that O-line. I know they've had a lot of guard injuries, but Austin Corbett, you knew wasn't going to be ready for the start of the season. They were not prepared to replace him at all, you know, at the start.

Since then, four more guards later. I mean, it's a train wreck. Icky's regressed.

Bozeman's regressed. So that's the biggest problem right there. The receiving core. Like, I just can't believe that this organization thought that they were in good shape. They give up all they give up to get Bryce. And it's like, here's the blockers we're giving them. And here are the receivers we're going to give them. I mean, I can't, you know, looking back at it, how much did they, you know, misjudge the support they were given Bryce in year one?

So yeah, I think that's probably the biggest problem. I have heard, though, a lot of people that know way more about football than me recently speak up about the outdated schemes that Frank is using and how, you know, ridiculous some of the concepts he's using offensively. So I don't think scheme wise, I don't think Frank Reich has helped this cause. I think the shuffle back and forth between play callers here, I'm doing it. No, you do it.

I'll do it again. Like, I don't think that made Frank look decisive and made him look his best. But then again, with that, you wonder, well, was Tepper involved in those changes?

You know, it all comes back to that too, fellas. It's always like, okay, that's ridiculous that Frank Reich would, you know, try to play calling and then give it up that quickly and take it back. But it's like, was he told to do any of that?

With any mistake around here, you're always wondering, did Tepp intervene? And that's a big part of the problem too. Isn't that, I mean, that's something that I don't hear a solution to, right? If David Tepper is the problem, David Tepper, like the owner is not going to fire the owner. So is this just, you know, I hate to invoke this. Is it Washington level where you just say, I'm going to be a fan, but I'm not going to invest until that guy's out of that office? Yeah.

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See website for details. Obvious example when you talk about how if you are, if you have a bad owner, you are destined to fail. That's the number one example. I think the hope is David Tepper kind of learning and changing himself a little bit, you know, but I don't know. Some of these owners can like, I hear a lot of the Boston media tell the stories of Robert Kraft early on with his tenure as owner and he kind of micromanaged and he kind of got involved and then eventually the higher bell check and he kind of stepped back and the rest is is history. That Brady fellow helped a little bit too by the way I think, but it's like you hear that some owners have been able to do it. Other owners can never do it, can never get out of their own way. So I think the only hope is as David Tepper analyzes the organization, he has a mirror nearby and he looked at it and says, hold on, I think I'm doing some of this stuff wrong too. If he does not, then I think we're, you know, we're screwed and we're in that situation and Washington fans felt like they were in just along for a horrible ride, you know.

So I hope he can kind of self-scout here for lack of a better term. It's hard to make Jerry Richardson look like the better owner, but David Tepper has accomplished that because when it comes to just being the owner of a football franchise and this is not about the personal conduct which is reprehensible that Richardson oversaw for however many years. He basically stayed out of the way of the football people and that's just own, just own, love on your team.

I mean but host parties in the suite. Right, just be that guy. For the most part that is Robert Kraft. The only time Kraft really did intervene was like, no we're keeping Brady.

Let's get out of here, Bill. We're keeping Tom Brady. And he was really, it was a leap of faith that Brady would still be productive into his early 40s. As it turned out, Robert Kraft was right. Belichick would have gotten rid of Brady six years earlier if it wasn't up to Robert Kraft. I don't know how to get away from David Tepper being the owner other than it takes a while to learn how to own. Not everybody comes in like Tom Dundon, the owner of the Carolina Hurricanes and has a plan which involves personal discipline. David Tepper does not subscribe to that particular theory which that's fine.

Everybody's got a different style. Another example I use is George Steinbrenner. I know the Yankees won two World Series early in Steinbrenner's tenure. He bought the team in 72. He actually really bought parking garages in 72 and they won titles in 77 and 78. But after that, when free agency had caught up to Major League Baseball, Steinbrenner became a bad owner. And it wasn't until they kicked him out and everybody else was running the team that all of a sudden the Yankees established themselves as that franchise again.

And then Steinbrenner came in and he was kind of just the owner and it was really good for Yankees fans, not for Mets fans, bad for Mets fans. But here's the thing. I guess when it comes to whether it's hiring the next coach, should have hired Steve Wilkes before, or the personnel, how did they get out of this without draft capital, with an owner who is impetuous and meddling, how did they get out of this that isn't a five-year plan? That's a hell of a question.

Thank you. I gotta tell you, man, I would not bet on us getting out of it anytime soon because Tepper has to make the right hire. I really hope if they do make a change in the front office, man, my real hope is that he puts someone that's kind of like a VP of football operations, even above the GM level, and that person runs the show. But do I deep down believe David Tepper is at the point where he's ready to do something like that?

No, I don't. I don't think he can still help himself. But I think that would be a way to try to get out of this, let that put a guy in place, let him hire the new coach.

But I'm not sure that's the way he's going to go. The lack of draft capital is huge too. I mean the thing too is you wonder, how inviting does this job look?

How enticing does this job look? Ben Johnson, the Lions OC, was Tepper's first choice according to everybody in the know last year. And Ben already said, no thanks, I don't even want to talk to you. Well now, I'm sure Tepper can go back and just throw money at him, but is there any guarantee he wants to talk?

How many other guys might turn down interviews because they know they're short on draft capital? They have so far to go on a personnel standpoint. Some coaches might have an opinion about Bryce that isn't favorable, might not want to jump on his wagon. So, I don't know man, I just, I don't have, I guess you were looking for some like optimistic formula out of this mess. I don't know if I have it man.

No, there is none because you're right. Well to me 100% of the optimism has to come from the thoughts on Bryce Young, right? If you think he's being, you know, anchored or held back by the way Frank Reich was running the team or the personnel, you might be able to entice the next coach by saying, if you fix Bryce Young, you have this gem. Can like, up there in Charlotte, can you separate Frank Reich and Scott Fitterer from Bryce Young and can he be evaluated kind of in his own vacuum or are they all being grouped together as this one terrible core that led to this terrible season? No, I think, I don't know, I mean there's some people that just are ripping everybody and God, my God as a Panther fan, I get it.

I get it 100%. I try to separate Bryce Young. I was a Bryce believer before the draft, so that's kind of different. People that wanted Stroud, of course, they're already saying, I told you so.

You know what I mean? I guess we get so many of those texts every day, but as far as Bryce, I still think there's something there, but man, it's like it will take the right coach to be like, hey, he's got something I can work with, but it also takes whoever's in charge of personnel of improving this line and the receiving core without a first round pick and like how quickly can you do it? Like Dan Orlovsky last week said something on one of the shows. First take, they all run together, but he said something on one of the shows where he's like, I'm not even evaluating Bryce in 2024. He says they have so much going wrong there and need so much around him that he says, I won't even start to evaluate him until 2025 and everybody on the show, the whole set was laughing, but he's being serious. That's how dire it is in terms of trying to put competent people around Bryce. You can even evaluate them. So that's the thing that sucks about it, man. It doesn't feel like a short term project. It feels like a hell of a task for the next head coach to take on, man.

It really does. Chris McLean, Mac and Bone in the morning at WFNZ in Charlotte. Tell Bone, sorry about Mike Elko, but you guys will have plenty to talk about tomorrow morning and I'll talk to you guys on Wednesday. All right, man. Who knows who David Tepper will fire between now and our conversation Wednesday, Adam, stay tuned. All right, man. I'll talk to you later.

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