Day 7 of Carolina Panthers Training Camp // Ric Flair's last match

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Visit us at capitalfinancialusa.com. This is the Adam Gold Show. Eventful day at Panthers training camp and I guess this is what, day six?

I don't know how many days it is. Vashti hurt carolinablitz.com at keep blitzing on Twitter. Vashti not with an IE like Robbie Anderson is now IE Robbie. Caught a touchdown pass from Baker Mayfield today. Did that get everybody going?

It got everybody going. It was a, it was about a 50 yard bomb from from Baker to Robbie who caught the touchdown pass in double coverage. So, one, it was good to see for Panthers fans to see a quarterback air it out, and two, for Robbie Anderson who had a case of the drop season last season. To catch one ironically from Baker Mayfield who he wasn't necessarily a fan of coming initially. So, a lot of storylines in that catch, right?

There really were and you say dropsies also IE. Maybe Robbie Anderson is just attacking his fears all there. By the way, if you want to see the touchdown pass, which was epic from Mayfield to Robbie Anderson, you can go to at keep blitzing on Twitter and an hour ago. It posted on Vashti hurts timeline.

This is the Adam Gold Show vest. I heard is at Panthers camp both quarterbacks got got picked today. Frankie Louvou, I think, got Mayfield earlier.

Like, again, we're not declaring a winner. Has one taken a step ahead of the other at this point? I think so.

I think so. And I think at this point, if there's a step, there's a slight step and it would be Baker Mayfield only because he's been more consistent in the red zone. And that's the area where the Panthers have struggled defensively and offensively. But Baker has been better in the red zone and Baker has also, you know, not been checked down the check down king.

As you know, we saw in that pass to to Robbie Anderson. He's definitely been more willing to air it out. And I think that those explosive plays another thing with the Panthers are trying to look to increase those chunk plays that they just haven't had under Donald. So if there was if there was a slight edge, I think that Baker is trying to start distancing himself. Not all the way, but he's making strides. Vashti Hurd is joining us here on the Adam Gold Show.

And this is what I've been talking about the last couple of days. To me, and I'm doing this from afar, you have a much closer view, but I want your thoughts on this. There are two things that I think that Mayfield has over Sam Darnold that I don't believe Sam can change. The first is on the field, the willingness to put himself out there, to push the ball down the field. Sam is much more conservative as a quarterback than Mayfield is, which could work for you at some point, but I like the aggressiveness of Mayfield. And the other thing is that Baker has a presence that Sam doesn't. Your thoughts on those two angles. You're absolutely correct.

And I was telling I was thinking about this earlier. To me, it's mental, right? So an analogy is, you know, you have two people. One could be average, but have confidence. And then you could have someone who is extremely attractive, but no confidence. The one with the confidence is always going to be out the ladder. So Baker Mayfield has the confidence and swag of somebody who could walk in the club and pull everybody in there.

Sam Darnold is the one who's sitting back on the wall just hoping to be asked to dance. So those are the two differences between those guys and to me it's mental. And with that comes Baker's willingness to say, okay, I'm just going to put it up there and hope one of these good receivers that the Panthers have is going to be able to come up with the ball. Yeah, I absolutely believe that is because statistically they really aren't too far off. Baker, of course, is better. But statistically, I mean, not leaps and bounds, but to me that mental is the biggest difference between the two of these guys. Yeah, there's a presence about Baker that is noticeable.

Hopefully at some point his performance can sort of catch up to that. They're better off with Mayfield, especially if Cleveland is the team. You know, they're the opener.

I mean, I can't imagine Baker Mayfield not going to start game one, but we'll see what happens as we get there. You mentioned the receivers. Robbie Anderson obviously caught catches the touchdown pass that long when that is on your timeline, but Terrace Marshall has also sort of taken a step forward. Is he going to step in front of Robbie Anderson or is he going to be a third wheel?

You know, that's the biggest question. Terrace has all the intangibles. He has, of course, size over Robbie Anderson, not quite the speed, but he has the size and the presence. And, you know, quarterbacks like big targets. So, you know, opposite of DJ who was a smaller guy, I can see Terrace challenging Robbie at this point for that number two position, but you also have Rashard Higgins who was with Baker in Cleveland. They have a pretty good receiver room, guys who are able to make plays, but I wouldn't be surprised. You know, somebody said, oh, it's Terrace the training camp MVP.

That is not a label you want on this team. So I wouldn't go that far, but I do think that he is taking a step forward this season. The best I heard is joining us here on the Adam Gold show on the defensive side of the ball. There was a lot of excitement because we saw JC horn on the field and I know Sam Sam Darnold did some trash talk yesterday. I don't know if JC horn was impressed or not, but addressing both things. How is JC looked on the field? JC is on the field, he's going through warm ups and individual drills with the DBs, but he hasn't really gotten any action. I asked him about that just a little while ago on the pressers and he said, you know, they're working him back, bit by bit. So, you know, he's looking smooth, and his transitions and he's looking like you know the JC, the guy who is a big, big corner but smooth with smooth with how he moves, but that's just in drills we haven't seen any live action with him and I don't think probably will until maybe next week. Now I want to see JC horn play a shutdown corner can be an absolute catalyst to that entire defense speaking of that, Frankie Lou who made a big play today.

Is there the notion that maybe Frankie Lou who plays a bigger role than they anticipated. And with the departure. Oh, row row. We try that we try to hook back up with with bash time, because she's not there right now right we're good. We will try to reconnect with bash time. She's going through a difficult I don't know if it's raining.

We got backside back. Are you back. I don't know. Hello. Hello.

There you are. I'm sorry. It's okay. It's all right. Technology is not great. It's all right technology is not is not awesome. If, if we had to do like if planes had the same technology as cell coverage.

We wouldn't ever fly anywhere. So, about Frankie Lou, Lou, a big play today, and I think a lot as expected, although I don't know that they expect him to be a mainstay on defense what's your read. I do think they expect him to be a mainstay I expect him. I think they expect him to be one of the leaders in that line backing in that line, among that line backing for and also try to fill some of the void that was lost when the ball hit Billy. So, abilities, but expected to play a big role in this in the defense success.

All right, final question for vast I heard we are we are having a couple of technical issues here. What's, what's the plan going forward with the quarterbacks is, is one of them going to get the bulk of the one, you know, snaps with the ones tomorrow has Matt rule talked about a different division of duties. They're going to continue to split reps, and then they're also going to split reps among the first group. So, still more of the same. Okay, no one guy taking more snaps with the ones than the other.

They're trying to be fair and I think that will continue up into and probably through some of these preseason games. All right, well, stay, stay cool in Spartanburg vast I you're, you're awesome at keep blitzing on Twitter, all the latest videos and all of that at Carolina blitz calm we'll talk very soon. All right, thanks Adam, you got it. Thank you, Adam golden studio with my friend coach Peter rooter with the capital financial advisory group we are talking retirement coach how does longevity risk figure into our retirement and income plan. The worst of times and the worst of times Adam longevity risk means we're going to live too long, but to me, every day I live is not too long, right. So we want to money to outlive us. And unfortunately many people have seen you out there listening maybe one of them, your money is not designed to outlive you, you might outlive your money and that's not what we want to have happen, because when we get to that point where you run out of money, it's not gonna be a fun time.

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I thought we should really talk to Chris about this. And he has made himself available to talk about the final match for Ric Flair. It was a tag team match. I was so surprised that Ric Flair won. Were you surprised that Ric Flair won his final match? You know what, honestly, it wouldn't have surprised me if he if he didn't just know Ric Flair and his flair for the dramatic no pun intended probably wanting to cry in front of the crowd and everything like that.

So, I don't know, it could have gone either way, but I'm surprised he didn't try to make it a big deal with him losing. I mean, he bled or did he? Did he really bleed? He bled.

You know, of course it was assisted but he bled. It's probably like when I was a kid growing up and I am significantly older than you, sir. I'm not significantly older than Ric Flair. I am not as old as Ric Flair. But when I was growing up, Flair was popular, but I think there were other guys. I mean, I grew up in the Jimmy Snuka days, the Bob Backlund, Bruno Sammartino, those guys before it became like a real soap opera show. What did Flair, you know, to somebody who was in it, what did Flair mean to somebody like you?

Honestly, when I first started wrestling, it was like in 2012 when I started training and it made me look at wrestling in a different way. Before when I was just a fan, Ric Flair was the guy that I booed because he was always going up against Hulk Hogan or Sting or anybody else that I liked and didn't like him. And then I started watching his matches and I started noticing that the mastery that he was putting on and why he was able to get people to hate him, I mean, that's a skill. But he was so dislikeable that he was likeable to a lot of people. And so I think that was what it kind of meant to me is just being able to learn how what he was doing in the ring, his actions, facial expressions, his character.

All of it was very greatly planned. And you have some sort of connection to him, whether you didn't like him or you didn't like him. You liked him in some way where you wanted to see him fail to see him succeed. And he got you hooked in that way on purpose.

But I think that's what I took from it. So you started in 2012. I mean, I'm assuming the answer is no, but you never wrestled Flair, right?

No. I don't think I think after he made his last match before this was maybe like 2010 or something like that. Yeah, he was he was the fault for a while. It was theoretically it was possible. Yeah, I guess it could have been. Yeah, that would like so again, it's hard to quantify what he has meant because so I mean, we can play around with this all day long, but he touched so many different things. Like in the last 15 or 20 years, he's probably been more a pop culture icon than a wrestling icon, no?

Yeah, sure. You know, I thought it was one of the most interesting places. I've seen Rick Flair's when he showed up and a music video from the Migos, the rap group, the Migos. And it was just like Rick Flair in his robe and he's wooing all over the place with the, you know, 21, 22, 23 year old rappers from Atlanta. Like it's just, it's perfect.

It's perfect to see. So that definitely shows that he is a pop culture icon. I could actually see Rick Flair rapping with Migos because it's, I mean, it's, you know, it's got a great vibe and it's kind of mellow.

I think he'd do a great job with them. You know, Macho Man recorded a rap album, didn't he? Did he really? He did.

There's a rap album that he recorded maybe a couple years before he passed away. It wouldn't surprise me either if Rick Flair did the same. I talked to Randy Savage, has to be 20 years ago. They came out of WrestleMania or something here in Raleigh and we got Randy Savage on the show and like the voice was the same, even off the air. Like before, like he didn't even have to go into character. That voice was that voice.

One of the most distinctive things I've ever, I've ever heard. How can Flair, final thing about this and then I'm gonna ask you something about the Panthers. How can, does Flair still have influence in the game today? Oh, of course, you know, I think the wrestling style is definitely different from when Flair is in his heyday, but a lot of the guys do take elements of his character, elements of his ring style and they incorporate it to how they do it. I mean, anybody that's ever going to come out with a robe or something sparkly on probably got the idea from Rick Flair from this generation. I know there were others before Flair who did it, but he was the one who kind of, you know, made that popular for this generation of guys.

So he's definitely going to have influence for a while. He's one of those guys that will probably go down as one of the goats, honestly. Definitely on the Mount Rushmore of wrestlers. Who had the best wrestling finishing move? Oh, I wasn't ready for that one.

I'm sorry. Well, I'm going back to my, again, back when I watched when I was a kid, we had Dusty Rhodes. I think it was the Atomic Elbow.

I was a big fan of Dusty Rhodes. I think Stan the Man Stasiak with the heart punch. That sounds like something that would end a match. I would just say between the Stone Cold Stunner and the RKO, because both of those, when we talk about pop culture, like those are in pop culture as well. Like I always have non wrestling fans sending me these compilations of people doing the RKO out of nowhere.

You know, like I haven't seen a million of them already myself. So that lets me know that that's beyond what pro wrestling is. That's in the pop culture. So I'll say that one. What was your finishing move, Chris Lee? I used Jimmy Snuka's move. I called it Dead Air or something like that. Because I was from radio, you never wanted to have dead air. So I called it Dead Air.

Look, you're speaking my language. I was a super fly Jimmy Snuka kid growing up, man. I just wanted to see him.

It was WWF at the time, not WWE. And I watched it every Saturday night, right before, it was either right before or right after the NFL Game of the Week and NFL Films production. So we'll close on the Carolina Panthers before we let Chris Lee, who I think is boarding a plane to somewhere. And I want to let you board your plane and do whatever it is you have to do. Can you close your eyes and see Sam Darnold starting week one?

No, I can't. I think you don't bring Baker Mayfield to the Panthers if you're not thinking that he's going to be able to start for you week one and that he probably should start for you week one. I don't think that you bring him simply to have competition with Sam.

You bring him so that you can start pushing Sam to the side because you realize that this isn't the future. This isn't the person that you're going to want to sign after this season is over. So there's no way Sam Darnold starts week one unless Baker really sucks it up and trades you.

I 100% agree. I just cannot close my eyes and see Sam Darnold barring an injury. I can't see him starting week one and this is no knock on Sam. I think we all think that Baker Mayfield, to whatever degree, is an upgrade over Sam Darnold.

Chris Lee, WRAL, DV5. Did you see the video that the Panthers put out today of Baker Mayfield laying it out to Robbie Anderson? It was a great throw.

He lays out to get the grab. It was amazing. It was a great throw and a great catch and a big catch for Robbie Anderson because I know Terrace Marshall has had a good training camp so far. We've only been doing this for a week and we haven't even been doing it. Today was day seven of training camp so we're so far away. We're still more than a week away from the first preseason game.

But yeah, it was a big catch for Robbie with IE now because we have to remember that it's Robbie with an IE. Chris Lee, enjoy your flight. Safe travels. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you, sir.

You got it. Alright, we did wrestling and we did football all within the same conversation. Wrestling and football together. My kind of segment.

It's a wonderful thing. Man, we have covered it all. We were serious. We talked serious stuff. Yeah. We talked... We also talked football.

It's a very good point. When we come back, speaking of football, Jacksonville. Yeah. We are going to Jacksonville. So our tour began in Cleveland. Then we went to... East Rutherford. No, sorry, we went to Philadelphia. Philadelphia, then East Rutherford, then Indy, then Tampa, Jacksonville. All of the great things to do in Jacksonville. It's going to be a short segment. Next.

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Find Cane's 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcasts. I'm fascinated by this. The Guardian cap that is being used in the NFL.

We're going to take you to Jacksonville in a second here. It looks like Cerebro. It looks like brain.

Oh yeah. Right, so it's kind of strangely appropriate that the whole point, and they're being worn by offensive and defensive linemen, linebackers. Am I running backs?

I'm not sure. I know at least linemen and linebackers are. There's like four position groups, maybe tight ends. There are four position groups I think that are wearing them. Anybody that operates around the line of scrimmage should have to wear them. Or is being asked, told to wear them. And it's through the second week of the preseason.

Now, we didn't even get to it with Will Brinson yesterday. But did you see Robert Salas, the Jets head coach, his complaint isn't about wearing them. His complaint is that his assertion through at this point, like four days of training camp, is that players are more inclined to use their heads. Yeah.

During practice. And that it would lead to more tackling leading with the head for games. Yeah. And I'm simply going to say, stop it. I'll push back on that for the simple fact that if you feel comfortable because, oh, I've got more protection and stuff here during camp, well, yeah, your technique's going to go down in terms of not leading with your head or you will use it more. So when you take it off, yeah, I see where he's coming from in that regard. But here's where I say stop it is because the assertion is that none of the coaches are watching. Because as soon as that happens, hey, guys, we can't do that.

Yeah. The idea should be you should coach. You should coach. Fellas can't do that. Yeah, you whatever your name is tackling with your brain. Don't do that. Just because you have a brain on the outside of your helmet.

Let's use the one that's on the inside of your helmet. That's not the word. I understand what you're saying. I just think that that was a creative way of complaining about the silly the silliness of the look, because that's really what people were complaining about first. And I don't think Robert Saleh wanted to complain about man. This looks too goofy because I assume it's very light and not adding weight to the occasion.

I assume that it's like some guy said they notice a little bit of a difference, but they it doesn't impact. Sure, because you can't go underneath the Pea Street Bridge. Well, yes. That would be interesting. Get stuck with one of those guardian caps on your helmet underneath the Pea Street Bridge. Look like crying from Ninja Turtles wearing those things. So that was creative from on the part of Robert Saleh, but just not just not necessarily buying it as gospel and or buying it as a problem.

I look I honestly don't know what it's what purpose it really serves to be honest. So I mean when we get into the heat the heat of games players are going to do what players have always done. Yeah, which is take chances.

So, but if it saves people in practice then it saves people in practice. That would be good too. All right, it's time to go on a tour. We've, we started in Cleveland, went to Philly, then East Rutherford, then Indy, then Tampa, we're in Jacksonville.

Dennis has a training camp tour. Yes, of Jacksonville. Oh, what do we have, where can we go where can we eat. Yes, Jacksonville. Let's well. First of all, take a stroll on the Riverwalk.

That's right. We're going to go to the banks of the St. John's River in Jacksonville. Jacksonville has a Riverwalk.

Yes. Take these cities have Riverwalk all of them. Like Indy's got a Riverwalk. I like Indy's Riverwalk. I've done it's a good actually a good place to run. Okay in India.

It's very flat Santa. Yes, San Antonio's Riverwalk. Oh, that's a very famous tacular. I don't know why the what color of the water is that color.

It's a green that's frightening. Yeah, but I did not know Jacksonville had a Riverwalk New Orleans does. Mississippi River. I have not I've not been I've been in New Orleans like three times.

I have not been to the Riverwalk. I mean, I guess you can walk there's stuff alongside. Yes.

Yes. I know New Orleans in general smells bad. There is that take a stroll on the Riverwalk down there in Jacksonville. Yeah, you can identify Treaty Oak Park while you're there Treaty Oak. Yes Treaty Oak Park. You can see some southern live Oaks 250 plus years old.

Really? Yeah, very nice 250 year old plus a lot of old live Oak, whatever. I just try to say that's a big tree.

Massive trees. Also, if you want to get outdoors a little bit more make sure you head over to dailies place. It's actually basically attached to TIA Bank Stadium where the Jaguars play dailies. Yes dailies place as in John dailies place.

No, okay, just dailies place. It's an outdoor venue concert thing. Okay, so you can check out some stuff there if you wanted to or you can head to the Florida theater for movie, Florida theater. Yes, Florida theater fairly very popular place. You watch movies concerts including for example coming early next month. Jim Gaffigan is going to be doing a stand-up sets for a few days or they're going to be showing in a few days a screening of the old movie Matilda interesting.

I like a lot of the total interesting interesting is a very good move. So like for the kid had to eat that whole chocolate. I never saw the movie. So yesterday we talked about the Tampa theater. Yeah, this was this is the Florida.

Yes, the Florida theater, right? Is there a tour of Tim Tebow's childhood home? Isn't he a Jacksonville kid boy Jacksonville area?

Oh, okay. I'm sorry Jacksonville. Well, can I go to Tim Tebow's house? I mean, I don't think you can stay in Jacksonville.

That's the thing. Oh, I see the Florida theater was built in 1927. Oh God got to go then if it's built there.

Yes. So yeah a lot of old architecture. So very similar to the to the theater that we mentioned yesterday in Tampa the Florida theater built in 1927. So we got all that old architecture some definitely some cool things to check out there for sure. Also, I know we're not going to get into football itself or the Jaguars but this is where the world's world's largest cocktail party takes place.

The outdoor charging. Yeah, they don't want to call it the world's largest outdoor cocktail party anymore. Kirby Smart doesn't I think yeah, I think both schools have kind of tried to move past that. I think the fans still call it that sure but I think the schools have moved past it. You know, they used to play Kentucky and Tennessee used to play for an old beer barrel.

Yeah, right and like I'm not making fun of this at all. But I think it was a cup. I don't know how many years ago. It's probably got to be 20 years ago now a couple of days or weeks before the game. Somebody was killed in a one of the players.

I think was killed in a drunk driving accident. So they stopped calling it the like the beer barrel game or something like that. Yeah, and I mean, I'm I'm not complaining but it used to be they used to play for a beer barrel.

They probably still do they just don't call it that they just call it a barrel maybe maybe they say you're playing for a barrel playing for this playing for this thing. It's a coffee table. It's an old wagon wheel.

It's an old wagon wheel. Also check out the donut shop while you're there. Court the donut shop donut shop in Jacksonville is probably inside of like a food line. No, I'm not making fun of anybody. Well, this is donut shop with two P's and an E. Oh, sorry.

Yes, choppy. Does it say ye olde? No, ye olde donut shop.

If you're going to be choppy with an extra P and an E, then you have to be ye olde with an E at the end of old. Okay, ye olde donut shop. Ye olde donut shop.

No, this is just the donut shop. But it's been around since 1962. So it's got a little tenure to it. Older than Tampa's donut place. Yeah, which is like 97 or something.

Not even I don't think. But it's definitely not as old as like Frangilis or some of those other places. Jack Frost donuts, 1937. 1937, man.

They've been making donuts since before your grandparents were born. Sixty-two though. There you are.

Sixty-two, there you are. But that's it. It's Jacksonville.

There's not a whole lot to do in Jacksonville. I covered the first ACC football championship game in Jacksonville between Florida State and Virginia Tech. And I think Florida State won it. Marcus Vick was the quarterback of Virginia Tech at the time. Marcus? Marcus Vick, not Michael Vick.

Marcus Vick. And I remember being in Jacksonville and going, man, there's nothing to do here. So this show, not sponsored by the Jacksonville Tourism and Visitors Bureau.

But there's just, there was not a lot in Jacksonville. I mean, you're not that far from the PGA Tour headquarters, but who cares? Who wants to go there? Actually, they're moving the World Golf Hall of Fame away from that area. The World Golf Hall of Fame, I believe, is coming to Pinehurst. And I realized there was a World Golf Hall of Fame. There's an Everything Hall of Fame. Isn't there a World Wrestling Hall of Fame?

Well, yeah, it's the WWE Hall of Fame. Where is it? There is no physical location. Oh, there's no physical?

No, there's no physical location. What are they doing? It's just a ceremony. It's tourism.

That's it, man. They could put that in Branson, Missouri. People would have a reason to go to Branson, Missouri. There you go. I guess there's a reason to go to Branson, Missouri.

I haven't figured it out yet. They're not on our city tour list, I can tell you that. Not Branson, Missouri. Next city that we are going to hit, Glendale, Arizona. That's tomorrow.

Because we have the Cardinals. Oh, man. But I have pulled from my trusty Dunkin' Cup the Raiders. Thursday. Oh, we're going to Vegas on Thursday.

The Raiders. I'm sorry I'm going to miss that. Hayes will have to take over for that.

That's going to be a... Hayes, if he's interested, might tell you stories about Glendale. Oh, really? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Should I save Glendale for Thursday then?

No, no, no, no. Okay. I'm interested in Glendale. Okay. Literally, one of the coolest places I have ever been, ever, is in Glendale, Arizona. A place called the Wrigley Mansion.

I think it's related to the original owners of the Cubs, but... Okay. Not the gum? It was not... Well, no, that's the same. I know.

My fault. But they had this huge mansion where they held... The NCAA held a party, like a welcome party for the media, and it was massive, and it sits on the top of this hill that was just a stunning place to be in Glendale, Arizona, far away from anything. Anyway, that'll be tomorrow on the program.

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