What is holding back the ACC?

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Joe Jillio from the OG on 99.9 The Fan, three to six, Monday through Friday right here in Raleigh. Is it cold in here that I don't know about? You got a sweatshirt on? No, it feels good in here.

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Congratulations. Yeah, I was pretty excited. I had a glass of white wine at 1230 in the afternoon and a Tuesday. Were you asleep by three?

No, but I did have a headache at about six. See? So that's me. All right, let me ask you about the Wolfpack. Last week on the show, we talked a little bit about the Tar Heels and Wake and I'm going to get to those two, but I am curious about a couple of things regarding NC State. I thought last year, as much as anything, I know North Carolina was missing some talented skilled position players, but I thought as much as anything, it was about their offensive line not being good enough. Where are we with NC State's offensive line?

Icky Iquanu is in the league. We know Grant Gibson is back. It's good to have a center back.

Where are we with the Wolfpack on the front? Yeah, I mean, they have four guys with starting experience, Gibson being the best of that bunch. You know, it was a big help to get Chandler Zavala back for the extra year of eligibility that he was able to receive finally. Wait a second. NC State won a battle with the NCAA?

How has that not been headlines everywhere? They've won their last two, actually. I think their offensive line, there's right to be questions about it. Last year, even with Icky, there was a tendency to just run behind Icky or pull Icky and run behind Icky.

You don't need to be Buddy Ryan or Bill Parcells to figure out, oh, follow their best blocker and that's where the run is going to go. So I think they had some problems with predictability with that. Sometimes when you lose a player like that, maybe you make up for it with more so in numbers than you would with just one guy. I think what they've done up front is pretty solid. Zavala coming back is a big boost there. I don't think there's any question about that.

It's Emeka Mezi, he's gone. Devin Carter has been, I don't want to slander him by saying more of a tease than anything else. Carter has made incredibly difficult catches, but also dropped some bunnies, missed some layups.

What are the expectations for him this year? One thing I would like to see out of NC State's offense in general, I thought last year they get too rote with where they keep players. Back when Tory Holt was at NC State, everybody in the building knew Tory Holt was going to get the football. But Michael Caine would put him in the backfield, he'd put him in the slot, he'd put him in motion, he'd flip the field.

You had to work to find Tory Holt. The way that Tim Peck runs his offense, Devin Carter is always in this spot. Emeka Mezi was always in this outside spot, and there was no moving them around. He does a better job with Thayer Thomas of that, but I would like to see Devin Carter move around the formation a little bit. Anthony Smith will probably fill in for Emeka Mezi on that outside spot as a deep shot guy. Okay, cool, but I want to see the guys move around a little bit, make the defense work a little bit. That was a frustration I had last year with Emeka, who was outstanding last year, but you'll remember they would go games and long stretches, including that Carolina game, where you're like, okay, cool.

I get that you're trying to get the fourth string tied in the ball, but cool, but how about you go and die with your fastball? When you looked at their best games last year, Emeka would have 10, 11, 12 catches, and you'd be like, oh, that guy who got an extra year of eligibility last year and really shown in that role. I think Devin Carter could be that type of player for them this year. I really expect both Thayer Thomas and Devin Carter to put up really big numbers this year. We got five minutes in before we had living and dying with your fastball. That is your staple.

Why hasn't that shown up on a t-shirt yet? Joe Giglio from The Fan and Raleigh is here in studio with us. It's very easy when you see that state has, I mean, you could make the argument that you might have the three best linebackers in the league. They have great linebackers in Wilson and Thomas and Moore.

Just dynamite linebackers. You could see the argument that, well, this team can be reliant on defense. How good can their defense be? It could be a challenge to win games with your defense the old-fashioned way. I understand Georgia just won the national championship in that type of way, but I don't think we've really done an autopsy on Georgia's schedule last year. When you go back and you look at the teams who were actually competent on their schedule on the offensive side of the ball, Alabama, when they were healthy, absolutely chewed them up and spit them out. Now, they had all of the talent on the defensive side.

This is a long way of me saying, I don't think you can make your bones doing that anymore. Look no further than Nick Saban, who realized this same revelation and now just tries to outscore teams and get stops when they matter. I think if NC State can adopt that formula, get the stops when they matter. I do think Peyton Wilson is a difference maker, and when he got hurt in the second game last year, I thought Isaiah Moore stepped up into that void and was a playmaker, a true playmaker. There's only so many of them in the league. Then, of course, you get to the seventh game and Isaiah Moore tears his ACL, and then Drake Thomas moves over to the mic where he hadn't played since high school and really just shown. And I thought Tanner Engel on the back end there, too, was between Engel and Thomas, and Vi Jones, who's gone, one of the few guys who's gone, Vi Jones, they made the plays when they mattered, when they counted the Liberty game, the Louisville game. Those are the games, and I'm going back a season on the Liberty one, but those are the games to me that stand out and you go, okay, you won this game because of your defense. I don't think you can get a steady diet of those things, but there probably will be a Syracuse week where everyone else doesn't really care, and I have a sneaky feeling that Syracuse might be like five and seven this year. They might be frisky this year, Sean Tucker.

You can't let them just run the ball down your throat. I don't think State's going to let them do that. Real quick, back to your comment about Georgia, because you're right, they didn't have to be an offensive team last year. I think they played Arkansas, and I don't remember, I think the game was in Athens.

It doesn't really matter. They played Arkansas at a time where Arkansas was playing really well, and they absolutely manhandled them 31-0. An autopsy of their schedule, fine, but even when we got to the end of the season, when they played Alabama, by the time they got to Alabama in the championship game, that was a neutered Alabama team. Right, there was all injuries.

They were completely neutered. Both the two wide receivers that would have been just gone. They didn't really have to do as much, but they were drunk with talent on the defensive side of the ball. We know how bad Clemson's offense is now, too. They played Clemson, that was their big game out of the conference, in the league. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the SEC.

It's the best conference in the league. Georgia scored three points on Clemson's defense. The teams that they played, they weren't that good. Certainly not accomplished on the offensive side of the ball.

Until they played Alabama, and like I said, Alabama healthy, chews them up, spits them out. Alright, let me ask you this about one more thing about NC State that I want to ask you about, Caroline and Wake, real quick. Is this a final exam for Dave Doran? Yes. Now, it makes it sound like it's pass or fail.

I had this conversation with somebody who used to work over there today, actually. We all deserve to live the best version of ourselves. This is Dave Doran's opportunity in year 10 to live the best version of himself. And I would like for him to do that. For his sake. Not for anyone else's, but for his.

This is his chance. Yeah, I mean, here's here's the way I look at it. Like, I think, and I've been saying this for a few years.

I think NC State has a great football program. They legit. I think they're gonna make it's good.

Well, what I'm saying, I think it's in very good shape. Yeah, right. They recruit well. They know who they are. I mean, I think players get better. They develop players.

They absolutely do that. Like, we don't hear anything bad about state's players like they're solid citizens. I mean, all of the things that you want when you look at your football program as a fan. Like, I think we see all of that at NC State. The one thing they haven't done is they haven't had the big win.

The breakthrough win in whether it's a non conference setting or whatnot. And they haven't gotten the most out of any season. Like no seasons have they gotten the most except the pandemic year they probably did well, but if we went back and did an autopsy of the teams that they beat. There wasn't a lot of maybe the whole coastal division other than Carolina right there. I mean, it wasn't a ton of steak.

I mean, right, you know, hamburger, a lot of hamburger there, but so I'm not saying that this is not like pass your great fail you have to go. But if it's not going to happen this year, right? It won't happen. It won't happen. Yes, I agree.

That's that's where that's where I am. But I really do. I like the program a lot. I think they're reliable. I mean, they'll probably have a couple of dips here and there now. I'm not talking about this season, but I mean, there's a next year. Yeah, there's a six. There's a transition six waiting for you at some point, but they always seem to have a good quarterback.

They've done well in that front. I mean, it's just been amazing. Yeah, they are QB you all right to to the Tar Heels real quick.

Mac Brown. We are now what two weeks away from the start of the season less than two weeks away. They play next Saturday, right? Because they play week zero.

I hate the term week zero. He said that he's can't believe he's this late in the season. He still doesn't know who the quarterbacks going to be. I mean Mac Brown is the master when it comes to the media and communication. There's no doubt in my mind.

He already has a plan. There's no doubt about that either, you know forever at Carolina and Texas. He was okay with playing two guys. I've been saying this ever since this question came up. I truly believe he'll play both Drake May and Jacoby Criswell.

I truly believe right. We saw this when I was at NC State as a student and Mac had that thing running at Carolina. He always played two guys always. Well, that's true, you know, and then he gets to Texas. You got major Applewhite and Chris Sims and you're going Mac. You probably need to pick one now at this point, but that was it to pretty good quarterback. Yeah to pretty good.

He usually has pretty good options. I'm okay. We we're not a hundred percent sure that we have that yet at Carolina. Oh Drake May's brother won a national championship in basketball and his other brother won one in baseball. I think Drake May is going to be just fine. Okay.

All right. Well, we'll have to wait and see speaking of quarterbacks Wake without Sam Hartman is what they still have the best coach in the ACC and they're not going to have a losing record. Did you see ESPN's list of where they put they put they sort of buried Dave Klassen on a list because he's not in a net not coaching a national championship contender sure.

This is not when the announcement came out about Hartman. I looked at the roster and I hate to tell people that I do this. It seems very shallow, but I look when I when I'm gambling on women's tennis. I look at the pictures of the women and I'm like, I'm not sure this one pays a little bit too much attention to their Instagram. You know what I'm saying?

Like that was probably not that good. So and you believe it or not. This system is fairly successful. So when I'm looking at wakes roster and I'm looking at Griffiths, I'm going this is not Jamie Newman at 642 30 hide now now now he's a coach's son.

He knows this system. He's been in it for three years give put me or you in there and there are freshman Dave Klassen probably win 6-7 games. That's that's probably what I'm thinking is going to happen here. I think I think their schedule is a little bit tougher. They're not going to lose a non-conference game, right? I think their schedule is a little bit tougher. They're not going to lose a non-conference game, right? I think their schedule is a little bit tougher than Joe way that it is constructed on there. Yeah, but this is not Malik Liberty. This is Malik Liberty. That's probably fair. They've got they've got some players.

They've got some players. Now you tell me who I'm going to bet on going to bet on Dave Klassen, but I'm just telling you this is not Jamie Newman hiding out, you know in the in the witness protection program. This isn't 642 30. This is 511.

I think he's 180 or 190 whatever they list of it. Does Maria Sakari from Greece. Does she pay too much attention to her Instagram? I'm just going to have to look at the picture. Okay, usually the ones I bet on I'll just tell you on your bore is like my favorite tennis. Oh, she okay. You can go from there. All right fun.

She's she played doubles with Serena. Hey look also also, you know can flex a little bit. No question about that. All right, I want to ask you one thing when we come back about this kind of the state of the ACC. You said something a couple of weeks ago that I incorporated into a little bit of a thought exercise on this program and I want to talk to you about it. Joe Gillio is going to hang with us for a few more minutes. We'll be back to that next Adam Golden Studio with my man coach Pete DeRuder with the Capital Financial Advisory Group. We are talking retirement coach. Let's say I have more than a million dollar balance in my 401k. Congratulations.

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You're fine for India. All right, let Joe Julie, of course from 99.9 the Phantom Raleigh. So a couple of weeks ago. I heard you talking about the the ACC in general. We're looking big picture TV, but all of this why is the ACC where they are so far back of the SEC in the Big Ten in dollars also in football quality, although arguments could be made that the Big Ten isn't that far ahead of the ACC and football quality. Even though they are ahead.

Sure. They have more better teams. Yeah, they have more better teams.

And I actually I think over the last few years. They probably have separated even further because too many of the ACC's best teams have not been all that great. What do you think the the underlying issue is with why the ACC will pay out in the next few years about 45 to 50 cents on the dollar what the SEC and Big Ten will pay out to their schools. Yeah, the composition of the league is the its biggest problem and Duke and wake are original members and Duke and wake also had the biggest voices in the room, believe it or not at the time of expansion and Debbie. I think Dow has flat out said to me that when expansion was first floated the private schools were adamant that they would be adding another private academic type institution. They wouldn't just be adding for sports, which is preposterous and I enjoy Boston College.

I love going to Boston and when they were running hot with Al Skinner and hoops stuff to be good stuff, but they're not relevant and they play in a in a city where not only is I mean the Patriots aren't even King NFL is not even King in Boston. No, so you're so far down the line of list of importance when you add a school like that that it's small private school doesn't have you know, a great fan base and not there's not consistent support on a Saturday to go to games. You're adding that to Duke and wake then you add, you know, Syracuse who yes has a bigger basketball following but just go watch any football game or turn the TV on and you'll see it's empty. Yeah when Clemson's not in the building so they added the wrong schools even pit, you know, you can get a won the ACC last year when pit plays Akron in a Chris your field next year. There's going to be 30,000 people in a 75,000 C stadium, maybe three and to me to me the end but it was over in the Pittsburgh market. We're in the Boston market.

Okay, cool. What you need are it's called the Big Ten for a reason and it numerically it's incorrect but big is the part that's right there gigantic state schools. Yeah with huge numbers of both students and alums and you have people who follow Minnesota football you have people who follow, you know, Iowa football Wisconsin football. Those aren't even the brand names of the Big Ten, but that's how you sell a network. You have one little brother in Northwestern right and or the brains of the operation in Northwestern and the rest of the league whatever they get up to now. 18 or whatever it's going to be, you know, those are the schools like huge state schools with huge alums like there's more Ohio State alums in my neighborhood and in Garner than there are Duke alums, obviously.

Yeah, that's just math, right, right. Yeah, but Duke's, you know, 28 miles down the road, you know Columbus is 12 hours away. So, when you have these smaller brands and you expanded with the intent of adding small private academic like minded institutions like the myopic decision making there is just, it makes me want to pull out my hair but I understand that these presidents make decisions for, for reasons that, how does it look to everyone else. We can't add ECU, we can't add West Virginia, those are dumb schools. Right now, I 100% agree I think the one miss in terms of adding a football brand is probably West Virginia. Yes, right, that would be the miss, which, who knows, maybe down the road is rectified. When the if the ACC does find the need the time to expand further. But with.

I see I think the answer is not. Boston College is not pit is not Syracuse, who, depending on how far back you go, are really good adds to the, to the conference. I think the problem is that Miami has not been what Miami was expected to be Florida State, it's now been a decade ago hasn't quite been a decade, but close we're getting there right we're getting there. Since Jimbo drag the Christmas tree out to the curb on December 2 or whatever was that Florida State's stopped being relevant. Virginia Tech isn't, and hasn't been even at the end of the Frank Beamer era has not been relevant. I think the football brands of North of the ACC have been more of the problem for the way the league is perceived, it's a double whammy right so you have the composition of the league which you have too many small schools and too many small fan bases.

And then the ones that you're actually counting on to carry the water. Virginia Tech's a great example mom by me is a tough one, because they're not, they're also a private private school. I've been to plenty of Miami games where the place is empty here, but you know what I mean about my, that's always been the case with Miami, but the football brand has always overcome that right truth is is that they only really sold out when it was Florida State. They only really fell out for the old orange bowl you're talking about like the butch Davis, when they buy the time they move to Joe Robbie, I mean, I don't know as much about the butch Davis here but when I was growing up. I mean, they only really sold out the orange bowl when it was Florida State. Now, not that they wouldn't get a lot of people but they were a great television property. Miami is like the Dallas Cowboys, is that they have probably more fans around the country than they do in Miami. They have more fans on Twitter than they have anywhere else on the planet.

They're just a tremendous TV show. So when Miami is good. When Miami is good. All the Miami fans come out and Miami just hasn't been at that level.

And I mean it's reasonable to think that they'll never be at that level again. Yeah, right, I mean, and you know the answer as to why Florida International didn't exist central Florida didn't exist South Florida didn't exist. You know, I was I love to tell that give the example of Willis McGahee a two-star running back out of Orlando. He never ends up at Miami right in today's climate. He goes to FIU.

He goes to FAU who I didn't even mention. None of those football programs existed when Miami was running hot and they had they got so many local players who are just like, you know what I'm going to wait my turn behind Michael Irvin behind Bernie Kozar. I'm going to wait my turn and you don't see that anymore at Miami. So if Miami Florida State Virginia Tech if they return to be again, we're not going to have Florida State finish in the top for the AP right for 15 straight years. Miami is not going to win, you know average 11 wins a year. What Clemson has been doing?

They're not going to do that. But if they become top 15 programs, Miami has a chance. We Chris the ball and I'll money right they have a chance if so, but if these things happen, then the perception of ACC football will change and it won't be well who has Clemson played every night.

Well, you also when you think about it as strictly as a television product when you look at it is now right at the highest rate of games. It's only Clemson is involved in all of those games to your point. If you could just get Miami up a little bit you can get a Miami Carolina game a Miami pick. Yes, a Miami Virginia Tech game that people will tune into and say, oh this actually has a meaning to the ACC race and not just because Clemson's over here dominating the world. How many how many ACC games that don't involve Clemson have been must see television outside of this area. Yeah, because I mean people outside this era aren't going to consider State Carolina must see right. But even if you put that one on the list, right there haven't been many you'd have to be a true ACC fan. It would say Notre Dame would have to be involved in the match. Right, but you know, I mean state week. The way Carolina games have been good local to hear Carolina games have been good, but ESPN ESPN saying well this.

We got to put this one on primetime. Now Louisville with Lamar when it was Lamar right Louisville's another program that could be part of the football pedigree if they do it right if they do it right they were at it they were they just haven't haven't had it. So state Miami in Charlotte.

That's what I have. Yeah, that's what I had to or I have that's what I voted for pick Miami. I can see that. Yeah, just if I'm going to be crazy. I might as well.

You might as well actually I should have gone the other way should have just gone all in with Dave Dorn give me 12 and oh 13. I love state schedule. I really think they're going to make some hey five and oh four no headed to Clemson, right? Yeah, I actually think they're going to be Clemson. I do because the next week that I'm worried about what is the next week Florida State at home sticky. Gosh Joe Jillio, you're the man.

I appreciate your time. You got three o'clock today. If you are listening in Raleigh, and why wouldn't you be Joe and Joe on the OG? All right, it's halftime. I wish the cameras could pan down Jillio just crawl. Yeah, he crawled in front of the desk. He did, you know, here's the thing though. The graphic was on the screen. So if we would have walked by no one would have noticed.

Oh, that's right. Yeah, he could have just scampered out. He could have do you think Jillio scampers? Probably not. He has no scamper in him.

No, none whatsoever. I tell you the media up there in Boston or a Foxboro should say covering the Panthers up at the Patriots for this joint practices. Oh, they're scampering to grab their binoculars and check out some of these scuffles that are taking place. I saw I saw by the way, we've spent the last day or so discussing apparently like what is real media and what is fan media. Yeah in Boston half of the media is fan like legitimate media. Yeah is fan media including Zolack and who's the other guy Bertrand Bertrand? Yeah, this is Zolack and Bertrand today the sports hub, I believe. Yeah. 95 I believe sports up there actually live doing their show at Patriots training camp during the joint practice. Here's them. Just well describing the ruckus.

Yes, but what's by the way to give you a visual on this. They're just looking through binoculars staring at the practices giving you a play-by-play of what's happening. All right, we're live for Patriots training camp where there have been multiple fights over the last couple of days and there's been another one but this follows a play on which a Patriots player was injured and remains down on the field. This drill got escalated by the Panthers here because they went after Slater on the second one the second dust up. They were this is number three and in a freaking kickoff drill a kickoff drill where the Panthers are kicking off Patriots are in return mode. They have five guys that got I've got after Slater on the second scrum. They've separated all the players. They've sent them on their way into the next period.

So you've got it. And now here comes another major place. It's happening right in front of the stands guys.

It's going to involve much of each team at this point in time. Get these clowns out of here. Oh, they're right up against the stand and I want to do is fight. This is unreal.

I've never seen anything like this. Yes players are coming from the other field and again all the players from in there. Here come the opposite. Let me go right in this like cattle. Now the bills calling the team over now. There's so steamed up. There's another dust up over here.

Oh my gosh, all the dusting is 35 35 35 from the Panthers here. I got this. I got the I mean at this point Jim what I do with that damn you've now had here today in this practice. You had three of them yesterday. Oh, we got another one over here. Another one is now starting here. I mean at some point at some point. They're going to have to maybe separate here surfing in one of them.

Nope. He was just through the ball to a galore. So they're calling both teams together here the Patriots. It's Belichick again in the middle here. Mr. Kraft now is in the middle with Bill. Oh, look at this man.

I'll never see anything. What a scene look at him. He's getting right in the middle with Bill is Mr. Kraft Panthers are over here down on one knee as they huddle right next to the I've never seen anything like this at a camp. But as the Panthers walked back, they didn't walk around like a few yards. They walked right up against them. So they had to be rubbing up against them as they walked by classy bunch man. Well hockey ball.

Yes, an angle or do you hang on Pete? That was touch. Did they say she's Christmas earlier? Yes, that was all I spiked. Oh, man. This is this is great today. Oh, now it's great. Yeah. Now is your spike the ball. That's great.

I don't even care. It's so funny. Anyway, that was, you know, to two plus minutes of something that really made my day Homer just yeah. Okay, and that is to get a conversation about will get what is like what is supposed to be whatever man biased media.

What's slinging like Homer? I would you for example, there's like there are a lot of websites and podcasts and shows that are dedicated to a specific team or school for example, like pack pride like that is all about NC State, which is fine. But that's that's what it's all about inside. Carolina is all about UNC. There's nothing wrong with that.

But that's exactly what it is. So I had to keep those things in mind. But man, they're they were just they're all sorts of steamed up just staring through the binoculars and everything. I'm wondering if the weather had anything to do with it. This is actually JJ Jansen, as well as Johnny Hecker before all the practices start today. Talking about how nice things were up.

Okay. Johnny, help me out here a little bit. Just because those Johnny Hecker weather report today. It's a little more of an overcast day here in the New England area. About 6566 degrees, winds out of the that direction at about 8 to 10 miles an hour. Maybe a mist here there. Anything bad risk of sunburn is very low.

That's all I really care about Johnny still went with sleeves just in case those UV rays and traffic wasn't too bad today. So make sure make sure you that's it. That's all I got. Yeah, that's it. That's it. So I got it's all I got.

See you. Maybe it was the winds out of that direction that caused all of this today. I don't know, but it was fun. It was fun day so far.

And Christian McCaffrey was involved in one of those fisticuffs and stuff. It's fine. I'm all for it. Now, I know you talked earlier with Kanata Edwards about Bally Sports Plus. Now, just to kind of give people a little bit of information regarding this. Now, there's a lot of questions about what can you watch? What can you view while you're on Bally Sports Plus? Now, this is going to launch fully on September 26th. Now, Bally Sports only has streaming rights for NBA and NHL. So Major League Baseball is not included with this yet because they do not have the streaming rights. They have the over-the-air or the cable broadcast rights, but they do not have streaming rights as of right now. So keep that in mind if you are looking to get it that you can't just sit there like, oh, I can watch Braves games now.

No, that's not the case. So the launch for this fully is going to be September 26th. They've launched in a few markets as a soft launch test stuff out. For example, Kansas City, Wisconsin, Detroit. But all 19 of the RSNs are going to allow you to watch live local NBA and NHL games, pregame and postgame shows included, as well as regionally produced programming. For example, college football and basketball and high school sports. But also you can watch their daily shows like The Rally and Live on the Line powered by BetMGM, so like their betting show. So you can watch those on this app.

Now there is the question of, again, what do you have access to in terms of where you live? So the restrictions in terms of your region are still going to apply. The reason why I bring this up is Kenana Edwards said, well, hey, you know, you better be a Canes fan if you're a Hornets fan in order to make this work or vice versa. Well, I know here in Raleigh where we're located, we can't watch Hornets games because that is technically Valley Sports Southeast, whereas Valley Sports South is here in Raleigh.

At least that's how the spectrum does their channeling with that. So I'm not even sure if in Raleigh you're going to be able to watch Hornets games or if you're in the Charlotte area, if you're going to be able to watch them. Here's my question is this, because in many cases, for instance, if you had DirecTV or Spectrum, you might have a second option, right? I just wonder if you'll just simply be able to click on Hornets if you are here in the central part of North Carolina, if you're not in the Charlotte market.

I don't know the answer to that. All of it's troubling for me. The price point is troubling because for people who have unbundled, the reason to get rid of Spectrum, the reason to get rid of DirecTV for, I would say, the overwhelming majority of people is cost. I've literally saved about $100 a month on getting television into my house, switching from DirecTV to YouTube TV. Saved more initially, but then YouTube's prices went up.

Still making out way ahead, but very few people, I shouldn't say very few, but a lot of people are not just going to the streaming services, the YouTubes, they're also adding a Netflix or an ESPN Plus or a Disney Plus or a Peacock or something else. So $20 a month? Yeah, $19.99, or if you want to pay for a full year, it's $189.99. It's a $190. I just don't know.

I don't know either, and here's something as well. There was a question brought up, if you live in a market with two Bally Sports regions, North Carolina being a good example of that, will you have to pay double the amount? There are additional pricing options that will be made available closer to launch. So if you do want to watch the Hornets, if you're in Raleigh or if you're in the Charlotte area and you want to watch the Hurricanes, yeah, you're probably going to look to pay more. And to me, in my opinion, it's not worth it.

In my opinion, honestly, it's not worth it. Now, for somebody that's looking to the final excuse to get rid of Spectrum or DirecTV in order to watch Hurricanes, okay, then this might be the thing for you. But like you said, some other of these networks or these other streaming platforms, the prices are increasing. And my always thing I would get to on this is how do you reach a casual fan? How do you grow a fan base if people don't know what's out there?

How do you reach a casual fan? For example, if the Hornets are making a playoff run and they're hot late in the season and people want to tune in to watch games, you can expect them to pay 20 bucks a month just to be a casual fan to tune in. People aren't going to do that. They're just not. Or same thing with the Hurricanes. Hey, it's a late season playoff push. You know, they're trying to get in or whatever it may be or they're just having a great season. Casual fans aren't going to drop 20 bucks to watch the team. They're just not. I'd much rather go to a sports bar.

Me too. Now you mentioned Disney Plus. Although if you go to the sports bars a lot, it's more than $20 a month. Potentially. Yeah, potentially.

But if I want to watch just one game, then that's what I'm likely going to do. Now Disney Plus, you mentioned earlier, is now actually going to have tiers. So they are going to have some pricing increases.

Now we did see ESPN Plus. Those will bring tiers. Yeah, they will bring tiers, trust me. Now ESPN Plus has already jumped up to basically 10 bucks a month or will be increasing their prices. Disney Plus is going to have a jump as well.

They're going to have two tiers. A basic tier where it's $7.99 a month. It's going to have ads, but there's no option for a yearly subscription. Whereas they're going to have a premium tier that doesn't have any advertising. But it's $10.99 a month or you can pay $109.99 annually. So there's some different stuff with Disney Plus.

There's still the bundle that you can get obviously with Hulu, ESPN Plus. So there's some options with that. But it really is kind of for a consumer to see the stuff that I enjoy just all of a sudden just increasing prices for the sake of doing it. Everything else is already increasing prices.

Why not us? It's not like the fact that my food costs more now or that my rent jumped up 250 bucks a month. Now I got to pay more just to watch television? I don't know.

It's annoying to see. One other quick note, the NBA this upcoming season is not going to have any games on election day. So all 30 teams are going to compete on November 7th, the night before the midterm elections and hopefully encouraging. They're going to use their platform to hopefully encourage people to get out and exercise their right to vote.

So no teams are going to play on November the 8th that Tuesday. Good for the NBA. And I know they're going to be very creative in terms of getting people, their players getting people out to vote. Do your civic duty.

I'm very much for that. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6th, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition, of heartbreak, of figuring it out on the fly. The Canes Corner look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the aluminum company of North Carolina. Listen now find Canes 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcast. Carolina Hurricanes have signed one of their draft picks a couple years ago. Defenseman named Antoni Honka. Yes, he is from Finland. The Honka? Yes.

The Honka truck? Three-year entry-level contract. Not big, 5'10", but offensively gifted right shot defenseman. 37 points in each of the last two seasons in the Finnish league.

That's an excellent league. 37 points in 50 some odd games each time. It's pretty good work for somebody who was, you know, you know between 19 and 21 playing full seasons the last couple of years. So good player. We'll see how he develops.

He'll spend I'm sure the entire season in Chicago unless there's a rash of injuries, but that's where he's likely headed to play with the Chicago Wolves. So that's good. All right. I don't know what's going on the last couple of days.

Let's add him up. See where we are. So I want my first two Champions League bets not Champions League my Premier League bets this weekend very nice and I had Tottenham winning outright at Chelsea and of course Chelsea dominated the match and should have won that match outright, which would have made me also a loser in that. But I if I'm not mistaken you had a draw in that match or was that did you not have any action on that that match? I believe I had a draw on that match. Yeah. Well it ended up a draw had no business ending up in a job, but it ended up to to yeah Tottenham stole points from Chelsea.

That was hysterically bad refereeing, but it was also poor playing on the part of Chelsea, even though they dominated the match. All right, Dennis Cox, where do we go? All right. I'm going to start things off in Major League Baseball. Give me one Soto hitting a homer at plus 550 one Soto to Homer where they play in the Reds there in Miami. Okay, that's right the Padres. I actually had him still on the Nationals. All right, so that changed one Soto at Miami at plus what 550 that's very good. Good good value. My value is not great today.

Actually. I have one that is has value Braves have beaten the Mets two in a row in Atlanta interest to dominating wins. I think 13 one the other night five nothing last night. Max Scherzer tonight for the Mets.

Jaco DeRisi for the Braves. Give me the Braves tonight. Okay, plus 130 plus 130 plus 130 straight up. Okay. All right. I'm going to go to the English Champions League. All right, Stoke City, Middlesbrough is the English League Champion. I'm sorry English League Champions Championship. Sorry, my apology just called you can just call it the championship.

Okay. Well, I'm going to the champion second tier of English football. Yes, Stoke City, Middlesbrough draw plus 220 big big match for Middlesbrough. Zach Stefan who has designs on being the top keeper for the US men's national team has not been great and that's putting it mildly at some point Zach. You got to stop the ball from going in.

That's what you're paid to do. Otherwise, they'll use Slonina or Matt Turner who isn't playing at all for Arsenal behind Ramsdale. All right, my next I'm going to go Champions League qualifying Maccabi Haifa Maccabee Haifa. Okay, Maccabee Maccabee Haifa plus 130 to beat. Chris Cravana Zvezda something I don't know where they are, but I'll take I'll take the Israeli team to win their whole match and Israeli team is this close to qualify. This is the last round of qualifying. We have the main draw coming out in two weeks. Okay.

I have no idea what any of that means. That's fine. But because of that I'm taking Sheffield United Sunderland. The first goal that game is going to be scored in the first 10 minutes first with the first and 10th minutes plus 310 goals going to be scored the first 10 minutes Sheffield's a big big favorite at home. I guess over Sunderland a huge favorite at home over something. I think the actual the overall bet line is what I thought it was definitely not there are minus 130 on the money line. Sunderland's a plus 370, but I think a goal is going to be scored in the first 10 minutes. It doesn't matter whom fast start for Sheffield United not Sheffield Wednesday. They are both in the championship. All right, my value pick comes in the World Junior Hockey Championships Connor Bedard to score the first goal for Canada today at plus 500 in their match with the Czech Republic actually just check here. It's not the Czech Republic anymore.

It's check here. So give me Connor Bedard to score the first goal plus 500 in that match. Somehow I am still at plus 3615. I went through a rough patch. I went about five days without a win. And then I won like four out of six over the over a two day period so I was a good successful Premier League weekend for me, except that yesterday or Monday.

Liverpool disappointed. This is the Adam Gold show. June 19 2006 but it all started May 6 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly. This is the James corner look at the 25th anniversary of the moon, presented by the aluminum company of North Carolina. Listen now, find James 25th anniversary, wherever you get your podcasts.