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BIDEN Skips Border Visit: “More Important Things Going On”

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December 6, 2022 3:25 pm

BIDEN Skips Border Visit: “More Important Things Going On”


Today on Seculo, Biden skips border visit because he's got quote more important things to do. Keeping you informed and engaged. Now more than ever, this is Seculo.

We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Seculo. Hey, welcome to Seculo. Take your calls to 1-800-684-3110.

That's 1-800-684-3110. First on this border issue where President Biden was asked by Peter Doocy directly. Well, just take a listen. Why go to a border state and not think it's a border?

Because there's more important things going on. They're going to invest billions of dollars in a new enterprise. So that's true. There's a company that's going to invest in a chips manufacturing plant in Arizona.

That's wonderful. He's President of the United States. He has multiple means of travel. While you're there, 100 miles away from the border, why not go look at the place where thousands of people are coming across daily.

Humans are being trafficked. Fentanyl is coming in and killing Americans. Enough Fentanyl has been seized to kill every American 10 times.

10 times. But he says there's more important things to do and more important things to do is money. Because you don't want to go to a place where you're going to have a failure. And the border so far has been exactly that. It's been a failure. We keep talking about Title 42 being about to be expired. Let me reiterate for everybody what Title 42 does. It's a public health order that was issued by the CDC in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic that aimed to stop the spread of the virus because people were coming over and we were afraid they were sick and the impact that was going to have.

The order allowed authorities to swiftly expel people at the border. They want to now get rid of that, the Biden administration. We've got a letter from the United States, four members of the United States Senate, all Democrats, saying that this is going to be a huge mistake and significantly increase the number of security issues at the border, the southwest border in particular.

And the letter, which we can put a copy on the screen, is from, I mean, this is not who you normally would expect this from, right? I mean, so you got Kyrsten Sinema, Margaret Hansen, Jon Tester, and Mark Kelly. Four of them are Democrats saying, don't do this. Yeah, and what's interesting here is they point to this number, just think about this, in fiscal year 2022, this is because of Title 42, of the over 2.3 million individuals that were encountered, which is a gigantic number, 2.3 million people encountered, those are the people that they actually caught at the border by CBP, just over a million were processed under Title 42. So about half of the people that were captured by and encountered by, I don't want to say captured, encountered by CBP, were able to be quickly handled with the use of Title 42 and expelled.

Correct. But now, imagine that power is gone, a million more people, they're just going to be led inside the United States. And they start in the borders, but remember, they go, they travel to all the different cities. So every state is a border state now.

Especially now, when you're talking about the numbers of 2.3 million, and those are the people that they know of, those are the people that they actually had contact with. Think about what is the number of, it could be any kind of number, if there's another million that they don't have contact with that are already entering the country illegally, this creates crises at every state, whether it is the human trafficking crisis, the sex trafficking crisis, the drug crisis, the gang crisis, the violent crisis, it also allows an opening. When these cartels know that you're being overwhelmed at certain points on the border, they know that's where to send in the drugs, where to send in the human trafficking. They, again, and it's not just, it's actually not mostly Mexicans, you know what to point out, it's a lot of Central America and South America and even people from the Middle East who are making this trip.

Africa making this long journey, knowing that all they have to do at this point now is claim asylum and they'll be let go and they may have a case in a few years. The danger to the American security, our citizen security is unreal. The four members of the Senate, all Democrats are saying, don't do this. And Joe Biden says, too busy, can't go to the border. What's your reaction to this?

If you're on the border, we'd love to hear from you. 1-800-684-3110, 800-684-3110. The ACLJ went to work on this. We sent out a Freedom of Information Act request. We're now getting productions, literally thousands of documents, hundreds of documents coming in because we wanted to find out why all of this was taking place, why these projects have been suspended. Well, take your calls at 1-800-684-3110. Support the work of the ACLJ Matching Challenge, All right, welcome back to Seculo and we are taking your phone calls to 1-800-684-3110.

I want to play this. So yesterday a reporter asked KJP, Carine Jean-Pierre, is there a replacement for Title 42 in the works? Something that would be similar. For instance, if these, we just were talking about how most of these migrants are not coming right from Mexico. Correct. Which means they could have claimed asylum in multiple countries along their journey. Which you're supposed to go the first place you go to, that's a country of safety, that's where you're supposed to declare. Under international law, that's the rule.

Right. And if you keep passing through, that means that you, under international law and interpretation, you actually have a weak claim for asylum. You're probably an economic migrant and you don't actually have this real fear for your life so much that you'll go anywhere. That's the point of asylum, is that you will go anywhere to save you and your family's life.

It's not economic livelihood, it is your actual physical life is in danger. So if you can be safe in the next one of the countries you pass through because that gang isn't active there, you should claim asylum there. But we're not enforcing that.

Take a listen. We understand that the administration is considering a proposal that would bar certain migrants from receiving asylum here in the US if they don't seek asylum in other countries first. Is that a proposal that you're moving forward with or are there any other alternative measures to Title 42 on the table? So look, we are committed to continuing to secure our borders while maintaining safe, orderly, and humane processing of migrants. That is something that we are committed to under this administration. This will remain the case with Title 42 when Title 42 is lifted. Any suggestions that we might be changing a policy or looking at a different policy is inaccurate at this time. So there you go, no new policy. So they never responded to these Democrats. Obviously, that's why these four Democrats put the letter out 10 days after they said it because these are their states that are being impacted by this.

Now, C.C. Heil has been looking at this. We've set out a Freedom of Information Act request for starting responses, but the border situation is impacting the entire country. The ACLJ has been taking action on this. Yeah, so in 2021, we had 1.7 million people crossing the border. And in 2022, it's up to 2.3 million. And talk about a crisis. Biden's not going.

He doesn't think it's as important as other things. But we had the secretary of DHS under Obama saying that if you had more than 1,000 arrests a day, that was a crisis. We're right now at 6,000. And if Title 42 is gone, they're expecting 18,000 arrests per day. Well, except you're not going to have 18,000 arrests per day because there's no way they're going to be able to do it.

That's what you would need to arrest per day. But there's no way you're going to be able to do it. It's just not going to happen.

And they're having trouble getting anybody to want to do this job. Frank called in from Florida about just that online too. Hey, Frank. Yes, hi.

Thanks a lot for taking my phone call. My question is this. I read in the news yesterday that something is being involved with the federal air marshals and trying to secure the border.

Is that legitimate or is that something that can't be ruled out? They've issued an order to deploy them there. First, they asked for volunteers. And they only got 150 air marshals. So they're going to take them out of the sky. So they're saying that, OK, in these high risk... Why would you announce that, by the way? And those are the high risk areas. Every flight doesn't have an air marshal on it. But it's high risk cities, places based off of... Washington, New York, that kind of stuff.

Yeah. Cities you could figure out and know would be targeted more likely by terrorists, bad actors. So they're taking them off planes who protect American citizens, by the way, on those flights. And they're trying to get them first. They tried to get them to volunteer. So out of the roughly 3,000 air marshals, or a little bit less than that, they don't give you an exact number, only 150 signed up. Now they're being assigned. They're redeploying them is what it's called.

They're issuing a redeployment order. This is not their job. They have no training for this. But here's the problem, which we have to be aware of. They're going to be processing paper. Well, they don't have the training.

You're going to have no Title 42, no capability of enforcement. And the numbers, as CC just said, are staggering. Now we have done at the ACLJ, and I want to say this, we issued a Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of Homeland Security, and it involved records regarding border-related human trafficking and exploitation of women and children, the cancellation of Operation Talon and taking down the CPBs, that's a Customs Border Patrol's press release on arrested person on the FBI's terrorism watch list. They were moving all this, the same reason Joe Biden's not going. It doesn't fit their narrative. It doesn't fit their narrative.

And I think we just got, maybe recently even as yesterday, we got a response to that of hundreds of pages of documents that we're going through to find out exactly what's going on here. But obviously the border is not a priority for the Biden administration, and they're trying to just kind of sweep it under the rug as if it's not a problem. But the rest of the world knows that it is. I think the reality is starting to sink in, because when you've got Democratic members of the Senate saying, this isn't working, help here, and we put it up on our screen for those that are watching. This is a serious problem.

Now you've got to take it to the next step. What's the solution? So the solution is Joe Biden goes with the big announcement on an economic development, great, but then head on down to the border. At least support your folks that are trying to do their job, but he doesn't want to do that either. That's the problem with all this.

Yeah, exactly. Let's go right back to the phones. 1-800-684-3110. We want to hear from you on the border. 1-800-684-3110. Fred in New York online one. Hey, Fred.

Hey, how are you doing? Thank you for taking my call. I just have a comment. You said that the border has been a failure and I agree with you and Biden doesn't think it's important to go there.

The reason to me is because to him and his administration, it's a success. This is exactly what they wanted. Well, I mean, listen, before these, uh, three weeks ago, before these senators sent this letter to the four Democrats, a Democrat Congressman asked Mayorkas, uh, Sanford Bishop asked Mayorkas, do you still think that the border is secure? Take a listen.

I mean, Fred is exactly what you're saying. Do you continue to maintain that the border is secure? Yes, and we are working day in and day out to enhance its security, Congressman. They, they're the border is not who are, they think they're kidding. The border is secure. The border is a disaster and it's the human sex trafficking and the drugs that are coming, the fentanyl that's coming in.

In addition to people that shouldn't be here in the first place, but let's focus on the real issues. You've got to have security at your border and this administration is not going to do it. Now what we're doing at the ACLJ is getting to the bottom of this and what you need to understand about these freedom of information act requests. When we send them in, oftentimes this is an example, they come back, they don't want to respond. And what we do then is we go to federal court to get the information, right? Typically when we do the FOIA requests, if they do respond, um, after usually it's after several delays and then we get redacted documents. And so then we have to go to court to actually have a judge make them give us the documentation that we've requested. They're not going to want to have documentation, Jordan, about why they canceled their program that was involving, uh, title 42, why they postpone operation talent, why they took down their press release on arrest of persons on the FBI's terrorism watch list.

They don't want that. This is the ACLJ. This is what we sent in, which started this process. And that's what we do in our office of government over accountability.

Uh, and our lawyers there, Ben Sisney and some of our team work on this on a regular basis. So that's, what's going on. We're getting to the bottom of it.

And when you expose it, guess what happens? Sometimes you get that you can't get it through Congress. Then all of a sudden, now you've got four members that are Democrats of the Senate saying, we don't like this.

Let me tell you what I guess will happen. They postponed the suspension of title 42. I mean, they've doubled down that they're not, but you know, but they've done it before.

So I think here in this letter, this stuck out to me. Um, it says the utilization of border patrol agents to manage processing. And I just talked about that with the air marshals, their job is security, not processing paperwork. And neither is the border patrol agents, by the way, has limited the ability of the United States border patrol to maintain operational control between ports of entry. Think about how big of a failure that is national security. We have no operational control at our Southern border at ports of entry. Those are places where people are supposed to go to enter, whether it's goods services, where, where we have the border open for business. So they said, for example, Arizona border patrol sees over three quarters of odd duty agents assigned to processing three quarters of the, of the agents who are supposed to be doing security are doing paperwork. This is, this is how you end up with a fentanyl crisis.

This is how you end up with a sex trafficking epidemic and pandemic because there, no one's patrolling the border. And I don't want to say known because the ones that a lot of these officers are doing a great job doing the best they can, but the union for these officers are saying, help, we can't do this, but I want to focus again on the fact that we get to the bottom of this folks. And that is what we do at the American center for law and justice. So as we're in a matching challenge campaign, and we're, we sent out an email today about we're doing a 50 state project on the life issue. The next segment, we're going to talk about our lawyers in, in court today at the sixth circuit in two days in the sixth circuit, Supreme court brief due on, on Friday.

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That's right. Go to Be part of our matching challenge. If you can double the impact of your donation, that's at We can continue to expand the work that we do if you're able to support us financially. That's how we make decisions. Be right back on Cenk. Welcome back to Cenk. I do want to take a call on the border and then we're going to talk about some of the ACLJ work as well. And again, we'll take your border calls too, your Georgia phone calls too. If you got, again, if you are in Georgia, especially for the second half hour of the broadcast, start thinking about giving us a call. We want to hear from you about what it's like on election day. If you voted on election day, if you've been by the precincts, what it's like, give us a call at 1-800-684-3110.

We'll be getting to that in about 10, 12 minutes on the broadcast. So if you want to get your voice heard on that, start getting in those calls now. Let's go to Brenda in California on line one. Hey, Brenda. Hello. Thank you for taking my call.

Yeah. It's just not the fear of the drugs. It's the fear of the terrorists coming in over the border and not even having the air marshals on. Now they could say, well, hey, they're low on air marshals. We could go and be terrorists on the plane. I don't understand for the life of me why the White House announced that we're redeploying air marshals. It's that bad. I'd like to get a Freedom of Information Act request on that.

How did that happen? I mean, I'd love to see what happened there now. I don't know what agencies are involved with that, but it's probably only instead of 87,000 new IRS agencies should get 87,000 new border agents.

That would be a better use of the money. But to Brenda's call, we have asked about why the press release about the terrorism watch list individuals that were arrested at the border, why that was removed from the website. So we want to get information about that. And that's what these Freedom of Information Act requests produce.

Right. And hopefully, like I said, we just received, I think it was yesterday documents, hundreds of documents. And so we're going through those currently. And hopefully we will have some information to share. And if we don't, if they haven't provided any information, we will definitely, you know, go to court and make them provide that information. I also want to say, talking about going to court, and we're taking your calls at 806-84-3110, we're in court. If you're watching the broadcast live about an hour after you're done live, we are going to be before the US Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit in a case involving discrimination targeting faith-based organizations. And the law on this in the circuit actually is good.

I mean, I'm optimistic. The district court ruled against us. They treated faith-based institutions under their zoning scheme different than any other group. That was what was so fascinating about, and that's why we litigated it, is this idea that you could target religious groups and treat them differently than a secular counterpart. Right. And that will, that will, is what the argument will be about today. Abby Sutherland will be arguing that, like you said, at one o'clock. And it's interesting how ordinances can be written and specifically exclude out faith-based organizations.

And still, governments, you know, local governments think that's okay. And like you said, the Sixth Circuit has some good case law on that. And so we're hopeful that there'll be a good outcome on that.

We're going to find out how good soon enough because, like I said, Abby's going to be up on the batter's box, so to speak, arguing that case in the next hour if you're watching live. At the same time, Frank Manu was on the broadcast yesterday. On the 8th is arguing a major pro-life case before the same court of appeals.

Different panel of judges, but the same Sixth Circuit court of appeals. On Friday, we're trying to get in, we have until Monday, but we're trying to get in on Friday, our brief on a huge religious liberty case at the Supreme Court. And that brief is due technically Monday.

We like to get in a few days early, so we're shooting for Friday. That's just a snippet of what's going on right now. And then, of course, we're getting calls on the border.

And the American Center for Law and Justice Assisi said, we've just gotten our first real batch of responses to a Freedom of Information Act from our Government Accountability Project on this exact topic. So let's go ahead and take another call. Yeah, back to the phones.

We go, let's go to Roger at Oregon Online too. Hey, Roger. Hey, good morning. Yeah. Hi, guys.

Hey, I've got a question for you. Kamala Harris was cast as the voters are. In her first address, she focused on getting to the root causes. I have not seen or heard of any interim reporter update from any news organization, and she needs to be pressed on this until she provides an answer. They have no answer. I mean, Rogers, the truth is they have no answer.

I mean, what are they going to say? There's not one root cause either, because you've got these migrants coming from all over different places. Now, we know the driving factor is economic, but that's not a claim for asylum. So economics, again, that's people who need to go and get in line to our country. Again, we know what people want to be in the United States because of the economic situation here.

Even with inflation, even now, is better than most places in the world. But that means you need to go and apply for citizenship and apply to get a green card, apply to get in line through the legal process. And then, of course, other folks are fleeing places like Afghanistan or situations in sub-Saharan Africa. And we've seen places fleeing Islamic terror. Some are fleeing the economic crisis in places like Venezuela. By the way, that's likely why your gas prices are down.

They don't want to tell you that. As we cut a deal with Venezuela. Yeah, yeah. The new Green Deal Democrats cut a deal to get dirty gas. This is a much lower quality process, much worse for the environment, much more likely to have spills and disasters. They didn't want $6 a gallon gas, because that did not look good.

Nope. So they cut a deal with Maduro. Many of these migrants are coming from places like Venezuela. And the US tried to prop, of course, those governments up for the Biden administration.

Those governments up for the Biden administration tried to prop those governments up. But there is no one one route cause except for people want to come to America. It's not that difficult. And we want people... We're a land of immigrants, but we have a process and we handle these. Listen, we've handled asylum cases just as to walk in and declare asylum. There is a process you have to go through that's serious.

Right. And the problem is the border is porous. That's the problem that people are just walking across and allowed to come by millions. And you're seeing that's why these border patrol agents, three fourths of them are now put into the process part, because there is a process even with the people coming across illegally. There is a process that has to happen. And when you overwhelm that process, that's when people just get turned out by like in San... Or in, I forget where it was, in Texas that it was 700 migrants that they just let go on the streets because they didn't have the ability to process them. You're not going to process 6,000 and 7,000 extra a day. There's no way. So like Jordan said, instead of 87,000 new IRS agents, how about 8,700 new border patrol agents?

I mean, drop a zero. I mean, this is where the priorities where elections have consequences of which in the next segment of broadcast, we'll be talking some of that cause you got your Georgia race coming up. If you're from Georgia, our phone lines are jammed right now, but they're going to open up during this break.

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Why? When something happens like customs and border patrol takes down a press release they put up about apprehensions of terrorists at the border. In other words, they were coming in, Middle East terrorists coming in through the Southern border, and then they take it down. You ask yourself, why did they take it down? Well, we find out why they take it down because we actually litigate if necessary and get into a Freedom of Information Act demand with these agencies to find out what they were talking about internally. And let me tell you folks, you find out all kinds of things.

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Back with more in a moment. Keeping you informed and engaged. Now more than ever, this is Secular. And now your host, Jordan Secular.

Welcome back to Secular. We are taking your phone calls on the border. Want to hear from folks in Georgia as well. Phone lines, we've got one line open right now. But you can put in your comments too.

We can have our team start looking there. If you're in Georgia, did you vote? Are you voting today?

What was it like? Right now, here's some statistics I want to go through. And by the way, the phone line's open right now at 800-684-31.

So we cleared a couple lines. So there you go. Just so you know, in November, so in November on election day, 58% of Georgia voters cast their ballots in person early voting. 36% cast their ballots on election day. The final 6% were absentee ballots. The day of voting, it looks like, will need to break in Herschel Walker's favor by 13 points.

Here's why. There have already been nearly 2 million early votes. And that might have already, now it probably reached that number because a judge allowed for Saturday early voting.

Now this was an interesting one, Dad, because the law specifically says nothing after Thanksgiving. They said because of the backup, we're going to allow early voting through Saturday. They did. So now the early turnout is only slightly like maybe 200,000 votes smaller than the early vote in November. So Warnock is going into it with basically the same amount. If you imagine that, just to break it down for you, black voters were 31% of the early vote ahead of today's runoff. Warnock got 90% of the black vote in November. So you start doing the math here.

That you were so far behind by the time you get to voting. Yes, he's got to win more than 10% of the votes cast today. Which is a huge number. So he upped 10. Yeah, which Brian Kemp didn't win. Right, right. He won and he made a big win.

It was like eight and a half, I think. Because you're probably down 11, 12 points already before people even started voting this morning. So here's what I'd like to hear from people in Georgia. It's not impossible. And you need to vote. Because the numbers are there. The numbers are there for either one of these candidates to win. Well look, I mean Brian Kemp won by 8%. You would think a Republican would win by 8%.

But it doesn't look like it's going to play that. Well, we'll see. But the voting is very important. Yeah, I don't want to influence you by not to vote today. No, you need to vote. Every vote counts. If people do show up, if conservatives do show up and independents say, you know, maybe Warnock is too liberal for me and maybe they didn't like Herschel as much, but they said, okay, now that it's gotten to a runoff, I got to choose between these two. We didn't.

So there is some of that. We did hear in the last cycle that if it gets to a runoff, I'll vote for Herschel. But I'm not voting for him this time. So we'll see how many of those voters were there and do they show up.

Now that's going to be the question. If you're in Georgia, we'd like to hear from you. 1-800-684-3110. Let's grab another call on, we've got two minutes here. Let's grab another call on the border issue, which we were talking about the first half hour of the broadcast. Biden goes to Arizona, doesn't go to the border. Four Democratic members of the Senate said, don't get rid of Title 42, which gives authorization to remove.

They don't want it and they're Democrats, but no response from the administration yet. Go ahead. Yeah, let's go to Tito in New Jersey on line three. Hey, Tito. Hey, how are you doing guys? Great. Listen, I don't know if you guys are aware.

Can you hear me? Yes. Great.

Okay. I don't know if you guys are aware about the issue between the Dominican Republic and Haiti. The Dominican Republic is going to build a wall between Haiti and the Dominican Republic because we're dealing with too many Haitians in our country.

We have, we are four countries, you know, four countries, and we have over 2 million Haitians in the Dominican Republic. But the reason why I mentioned it is because the United States sanctioned the Dominican Republic, stopping the sugar trade between the two countries. Because the Dominican Republic is going to build a wall.

So, you know, so they're like double-faced. Well, listen, walls are good fences, good neighbors. That's how you have to, and that's, so you do that in your neighborhood, you should be doing it on border security. As you said, I mean, Dominican Republic is in a much better position than most of Haiti, much better, but still has a lot of issues for their citizens. There's only so much they can provide a relief to Haitians.

You're right. And so, again, they're getting sanctioned by trying to help protect what? Their citizens. Their citizens. It's this idea in the world now and amongst the left that there is no citizen of a country or borders to protect.

We're all one in the same, so who cares? And this is when you get to chaos and unrest and people get nasty, unfortunately, because they feel like, okay, now we've got to build a wall. Now, I'm going to tell you this. We're going to take your calls on the Georgia matter and immigration as well.

1-800-684-3110. Back with more in a moment. So let's take a call on Georgia. We're going to do border two. So stay on the line, David, Joe. For those that don't know on the border, Joe Biden, President of the United States, goes to Arizona, doesn't go down for a little side trip to the border because it's more important things to do.

He says there's something more important. It's a chip manufacturing plant. Now that's important to our country because if you want to ever be independent of China, you need more chip manufacturing.

That's wonderful. You're President of the United States. You got planes, helicopters, and any kind of movement you need.

Yeah, you can go to the border for five minutes. They're not going to do that because that's not a success. Georgia is having a big vote today. Let's talk to people in Georgia. 1-800-684-3110. Donna, we'll go right to Donna on line one. Hey, Donna.

Hi. Thank you so much for all the good work you do. We appreciate that. Thanks, Donna.

Okay. I voted today. I'm normally an early voter, but the lines were so long through December the second that I was not able to vote. So I voted today and my precinct is very small.

So I'm not a real good, I think, standard, but I was in and out in four minutes. But I will say that most of my conservative friends that did not want to vote for Herschel, I think, are voting this time. And I say a vote for him is definitely against the other party. You're voting for policy at this point. And there's a distinct difference in the policy. Especially who didn't vote for the first time. Yeah. So they need to vote policy.

And it's James Lankford and Senator Lankford said in our event at ACLJ Action, ACLJ and Susan B. Anthony Enlist, if the Republicans were to get the seat from Warnock today, and we'll know tonight, I think, then the Senate committees still remain 50-50. That's really important. You could stop things. If they don't, that goes down to basically 11-9.

And you lose the ability to do much of anything. So that's how important that Senate race is. Donna said she's in a small precinct, but that the early voting lines were too long. Now, same day voting took four minutes. That is not good for Republicans.

Okay. Because we know that the majority, not all of them, but a majority of the early votes go Democrat. I mean, that's just statistically what we know. It's better than polling.

We know that. The majority go Democrat. And so we need to hear more. And again, she might be in a very small precinct, like she said. But same day voting turnout, you hope you get home from work today and you turn on the news and they're showing big lines in Georgia and they're having to keep them, maybe the polls open in some places that are good for Republicans.

Maybe those, I would love to, it's a good sign if we start seeing the Republicans in the state party and the Walker campaign filing lawsuits to keep polls open in conservative areas. So we're taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110, 800-684-3110. At the same time, the ACLJ front and center on the border security issue. We've got a freedom of information act request. We're getting responses now. We want to know why Customs and Border Patrol was told evidently, we'll find out by whom, to take down their press release about apprehending people on the terrorist watch list on our Southern border.

And then we also want to know why they did away with programs that were increasing the ability to deal with sex trafficking and illegal narcotics coming over in the United States. So all of that's up. We're taking your calls at 800-684-3110. Let's go ahead and take another call. You know, let's go to Joe in Ohio. Joe, thanks for holding on on line five.

Welcome to Secular. You're on the air. Hey Joe. Hey, how's it going today?

Thank you so much for taking my call. My question is why haven't the red state attorney general's filed mandamus actions against everybody from the agencies that are sworn to protect our borders all the way up to the top? Well, they have, and they've lost.

I mean, to be clear. Now there's some other issues pending right now, but the Republican AGs have filed against the, and Texas, state of Texas filed against the Biden administration's policy and changes. And the Supreme Court in earlier cases said basically that that issue is controlled by, border security is controlled by the federal government.

And that that is exclusively the jurisdiction there. Now, the problem is when the person comes in illegally, if they're involved in illegal actions, drug trade, terrorists, obviously you then got to process and arrest them. And who does those initial screenings and processing?

Usually the state agencies along with the federal government. It's very complex, but the Republican, listen, when you lose a national election or when your candidate doesn't prevail, this is the policies you get. And so this is the policies you get. The problem is, and this goes back to the Georgia race, nothing is going to happen positive on these kinds of issues if that Georgia race doesn't come out successful today. I hate to say it that bluntly, but I think it's true.

Yeah. I think, again, it's very difficult because the House could stop a lot of things, but proactive, like hard negotiation with the White House, very tough because it's not both chambers going to the White House to say, we'll make this deal, we'll cut this deal. You've got to get a Republican House, a Democrat led Senate, potentially to, definitely to work together. And then if these committees flip, which we haven't seen that yet, you can have such a flip-flop in priorities. You can have the House doing investigations on COVID, on China, even maybe like Hunter Biden, those kinds of issues and the suppression of the laptop issue. And the Senate spending its time on, you know, whether Twitter should be shut down or whether, you know, the green new deal policies. I mean, just such a disconnect.

And, you know, the House caring about border security, the Senate caring about shutting down power plants and drilling in the United States. Let's go ahead. We're taking your calls at 800-684-3110. Interesting call coming in on line six.

Yeah. Let's go to Joanne in Ohio also. Joanne, welcome to Secular on the Air. Hi. Most informative hour of my day, guys.

Thank you for everything. I've heard a couple of reports that several border patrol agents have committed suicide. I mean, that's heartbreaking. I mean, these guys are nothing but babysitters at this point. And the other point I wanted to make was about the air marshals. They're saying that one in every hundred flights will have an air marshal now? They're cutting the air marshals. They're cutting the air marshals down because they're trying to redeploy them to the border because they didn't get any volunteers from the air marshal service to do it because here they're trying to prevent something terrible. They're law enforcement.

And down there, they're processing paper. Customs and Border Patrol has called in what's called a suicidologist as workforce deaths are rising. 14 more than last year.

14 more than last year. Washington Examiner has a great piece up on it. And it's because these people are trying to do their job and they can. I mean, that's impacting their mental health. They're seeing horrible things. They're seeing horrendous things. Kids being thrown over trucks and 30, 40 bodies piled up in a dead in a tractor trailer. That gets to you. And they are, again, they are not military.

Nope. But they are being held almost at a level of like deployed military. You're right. I would say it's pretty close to that. I mean, you have cartels pointing right at the border, running drugs. But the amount of human tragedy they've seen is just, yes.

And I think that gets to people. And it's why it's the highest ever reported in over a decade when they've started tracking this number. And 14 more suicides.

You may say that's 14. That's a lot amongst one of our almost called like a service branch. It's again, that's why I say the disconnect in Washington is going to be so drastic. Because we know that House Republicans care about this issue. We know some Democrats do as well, but they've got to come together. The only way the Biden administration is going to move on this is if Republicans and Democrats can come together, maybe they can on Title 42 and put enough pressure there. The question will be, you've got Democratic members of the Senate saying, don't get rid of Title 42, which is the expulsion order that you can utilize as emergency authorization. And now you've got four Democrats saying, don't get rid of it. All the Republicans are saying, don't get rid of it. The governors of the border states are saying, don't get rid of it. Now you've got four Democratic US senators saying, don't terminate this program.

Maybe that does it. And that's where this comes in and it's very, very helpful. Hey folks, we're coming into the last segment of the broadcast. We're going to open up our phone lines to talk about the border, to talk about Georgia. We do want to hear from folks in Georgia. 1-800-684-3110, 800-684-3110. I mentioned that we've got a case that we're filing a brief at the Supreme Court of the United States on, which we're going to try to get it in Friday.

If not, it'll be Monday. And we represent the city of Ocala and it's a religious liberty case involving prayer activity and an issue of legal standing. I will tell you this, the group on the other side, it's the American Humanist Association. They filed their brief in opposition to search for, we've requested the court to hear it.

Most of it is, this is, we've never had this happen. Instead, we represent, we're not the party, we represent, we're the lawyers representing the city of Ocala. But here's what they put in their brief. Neither the 11th Circuit nor the District Court uses ACLJ's Offended Observer Label.

The circuits are completely unanimous, rejecting the ACLJ's concept of standing. And then they say the court recently reaffirmed its decision and they give a case. Then again, adopting ACLJ's argument would destroy symbolic injury.

The ACLJ and on and on it goes. ACLJ seeks to render the Establishment Clause a nullity. Now, normally, that's not the way you get a brief in opposition. That would be that we represent a client and we're advocating their legal positions.

But in a sense, it's a backhanded compliment because of the work of the American Center for Law and Justice. And that's where you come in. So I wanna, there's their brief on the screen right there.

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We are taking your phone calls to 1-800-684-3110. So we're looking at Georgia, the race there. I do think we're gonna know tonight.

Yeah, I do too. Based off just the way that, with the amount of early voting, so those get processed very quickly. I think, again, you're gonna see, likely because of early voting, Herschel Walker down significantly early.

And this is where he goes back. And by the way, I wanna thank our friends at Rumble for... I don't think the race is gonna be like a blowout. No, but I wanna thank our friends at Rumble for featuring this broadcast that they've been doing.

Got a lot of people watching on Rumble and we appreciate that, again, for our friends at Rumble. But my question is, what you've been saying is this idea that without early voting, you go into this election day and it's like the other teams on your 20-yard line, but when you start. So we've got to... When the states allow what the states allow, we need as conservatives to be implementing that.

Absolutely. I mean, this is, again, we have to just... And it wasn't gonna happen in this cycle in the month, but we have to really educate folks about why early voting works. And it works because those votes are already in. So on election day, you don't have to worry about whatever smear campaign came out about you 24 hours ago, because the votes already counted. And you can get those votes in a month before.

So you know what work you have left to do, because everybody comes up with models. So all campaigns have models and people probably think about this, but they have a model inside of basically how many votes do we think we need to get? How many votes do we think we need to find? If you are going into election day and you're tracking early voting and you know that the counties... You can easily figure out by where the votes are coming from the state, how many of the votes you're getting. So if it's a liberal place, you might only be getting three out of 10 if you're a conservative. If it's a conservative place, you're probably getting seven out of every 10 votes. So then you know in your model, okay, by election day, we need to find this many more voters. It's a lot easier to find a smaller amount on election day than it is the majority of your voters. Because then you're dealing with doctor's appointments, sick kids, bad weather, lines too long, a wreck, a traffic jam.

I mean, especially in places like metro Atlanta and where you've got again issues with traffic going out way out too, every direction. And so you take all those variables out because you give people a chance to vote a month before. And you can debate whether or not it's right because so much happens in that month.

I think that's fair. But we got to play by what the rules are. And the rules are you can get a lot of votes done before election day. So do it. So let's start doing it.

So you don't take the risk. There was an interesting commentator on a pollster who said, early voting, you vote, it's 100%. Your vote's coming in. Day of, too many things can happen. You can't get there.

It's raining. You've got an emergency. Let's say... It's about 90% chance that person votes. And that's a serious voter for you, but there's a 10% chance that one of those issues arises. A kid gets sick. They've got to go to the doctor's office. They've got to take care of a loved one or the elderly.

All of those things come into play, but they don't come into play in early voting. All right. We're taking your calls.

800-684-3110. Let's go to line two. Yep. Austin in Georgia on line two. Hey, Austin. What's up guys? Thanks.

You're on the air. Yep. Georgia, Senate election.

It seems in my area that the Democrats may have a better ground game. And I'm also wondering why Herschel said he lives in Texas. So let me ask you this. Where in Georgia are you, Austin? Rome. Rome.

Okay. So you're Northeast. So generally Northwest. So that's generally a pretty Republican area. Yeah.

On the Herschel, Tennessee, Texas, Georgia thing? Mistatement. Yeah. I mean, you can... Listen, it's not uncommon for someone to live somewhere, especially senators, and then come back home.

And again... Perfectly legal. I think though, voters don't like that. They don't like the inconsistent statements from him. I think that's the issue.

It's nothing... It's what's going on there. And again, I don't want to play into that because he's been open about it, his struggles with mental health and those issues. He's been very open about it. So again, he lived in Texas a long time. He is a Georgian also. I mean, he was born and raised there and played football there and is a hero of the state for that. But what we're starting to see is that Georgia is just a different place. 20 years ago, it's interesting, Herschel Walker would have never been the Senate nominee 20 years ago, but if he was, he would have won. But I don't know what party he would have been and I'm not sure he would have ever made it through the process because it was a very different time in both parties. Race being a factor then, what Democrats were in control in the early 2000s of the state. I mean, just a lot of things have not gone right. And what I've heard from real insiders in the state, I mean, people that are very much inside the state, they never... And it's hard to imagine because you see these huge numbers.

They never had the resources to compete either. So you've got to be the difference today. The voters got to be the difference today. Ryan, line four from Georgia. Ryan, go ahead.

You're on the air. Hi there. I'm an African-American conservative female calling and I voted today and it was tough. It was very, very, very tough to vote. It was one of those situations where I didn't want to vote just considering like the candidates that we have. Look, candidate selection matters. I'm not saying anything negative about either candidate. I'm just saying it matters.

And your hesitation, Ryan, is, look, I think that's being repeated a lot. The question is, but you did vote today. How was turnout in your area? Like what area are you from in Georgia and how was turnout? Yeah, so I'm in Atlanta, like Brookhaven area.

I'm not sure if you're familiar. So it was easy. I mean, they make it seem as if black voters are disenfranchised, that we're having such a hard time. But in my area, it was easy.

I went in and out less than like really 15 minutes. I think Stacey Abrams totally lost that issue when black turnout's been higher than ever before, which is great. And Brian Kim said it, we're going to make it easier to vote and harder to cheat. And that's exactly what's happened in Georgia.

I think they did it. All right, let's take some more calls. 800-684-3110. We'll take the air marshal call. We'll take Clifford's call in Georgia after that. Let's go to Beth in Texas on line one. Hey, Beth. You're on the air.

Go ahead. Quick. Hey, I'm a retired flight attendant for one of the airlines that went into the tower. I'm just going to comment that these congressmen and senators need to get onto this fast because they ride the commercial airlines and they could have their rear end on that plane.

Listen, I think this is a ridiculous move and announcing it was, why would you announce you're pulling out? We've seen so much unrest on air flights too. Yes. Where, I mean, air marshals, yes, terrorism, but also we've seen like flight attendants being overrun, over attack, harass, fights break out.

Like you said, most of these members of Congress, almost all of them, they fly commercial a lot, like every week back and forth. All right, last call will be from Clifford in Georgia. Clifford, where in Georgia are you?

Just outside of city of Hartwell. Okay. All right. You, so go ahead with your comment. All right.

The comment I want to make is we definitely need to overbalance that rocking chair seat that Warnock illegitimately got a hold of. Well, you know, listen, you got to get out the vote. Have you voted yet?

We haven't yet, but it's right this afternoon and it's only a couple of miles away. All right, you got to vote. I mean, I don't know, whatever political party it was, you have that right, the constitutional franchise to vote. You should exercise your right to vote.

I am nervous about what I'm hearing with people coming in and out in two seconds. Yeah. And then they feel like even Ryan who called in and said she didn't want to vote. She's not going to vote for Warnock, she's a conservative, but it was a tough vote for her to make. I mean, that's, people may be over that because that was a lot of Trump vote. People who said, okay, I'll still vote for him because I'm not going to vote for Hillary Clinton. Right. And then maybe we didn't get as much of that with Biden.

And then, you know, is Herschel kind of example of that too, where people just aren't willing to say, I'm going to vote because they're Republican. We're going to find out soon enough. All right, folks, support the work of the ACLJ.

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