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Revent of the Taliban: Part 2

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March 17, 2022 3:00 pm

Revent of the Taliban: Part 2

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Revent of the Taliban: Part 2

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Secular town giving you informed any game now this is what I hear from you Sharon post, call one 800-6841 one day started documenting the actor was wrong but became a disastrous withdrawal of US troops resulting in the loss of life force of our US troops, but also a rigorous catastrophe inside Afghanistan continues on to this day, persecution of religious minorities like Christians but also the treatment of women. We know that because of that the Taliban take over the way it was handled the fall of Kabul happening in 48 hours rather than 90 days at this this I give the league of the Afghan government. The, the Afghan military innocents giving up arms as they were unwilling or just unable to fight the Taliban and the fold and everything that came with it. So my brother Logan was has been seeing that with lot of unique individuals with different points of view so you can see a little bit to this today Logan because this is available for people to watch a long format right were tradeshow today is a mix of who was there. It's people like my Pompeo record of people you start broadcast but also Tulsa Gabbard bike waltz John Ashcroft cubby. But two people that were there from the very beginning of this, the Marriott to Nikki Haley, yeah, it was a really fascinating thing to do. We set out to interview these people originally was done without remaking your 90 minute documentary ended up being a over four hour series that we released and we didn't real time through doing it as the conflict was unfolding.

So to me it was a fascinating time to get people's raw emotions and is available right off the first time ever in its totality on YouTube in every episode will be released the entire series of this limited series will be released by the end of this week's we wrote about your one a day and it's a 10 episode in most most of the interviews are between 25 to 35 minutes. You can sit down and watch sort of in podcast formative in some ways are mostly reviewed others using incredible score there's payroll to get a little more engagement.

People will like it. As you said earlier people even agree with you really disagree with that was intentionally want to get people's point of use from a bit of our realm and then a bit outside of our realms.

You have a conflicting version of what you have it ready for me Tulsa Gabbard than you would from a bike waltz you two different veterans, both with great careers in military, both with two different ways on how we can proceed in Afghanistan in court allowed this was done in August September October of last year a surrogate. He feels very real, first Iraq for our team for record now for my Pompeo and they said John Ashcroft was there for the beginning you would have your West Smith, who is your one of our people here on our panel. He created at Dover, the dignified trans-residual where the bodies are transferred. If you fall in in in warfare fallen your brought over this whole situation. Explain how that entire project was created and how running that with Tom's incredible emotional experience so really great insight very interesting and exits available on our YouTube channel.

Yesterday will give his honor YouTube channel X YouTube.com/official ACLJ shows a production that we do that in this longer format longer discussion than you can even do I will. It's about radio how we have a longer discussion than cable news. This is a longer discussion that we could even do on our broadcasting down one individual uninterrupted and talking to You going to people who were there in the White House from the day that were began for people who are fighting that war people were dealing with the bodies coming back from the war, American soldiers and who are still active duty who will represent the US US at the UN. Anything this again you do.

You see, if some angles and we now know this was foreshadowing pretty disastrous international policy board policy and military decision by the by the administration sober living with right now as I speak. I encourage you as you see the special broadcasting to support the work of the ACLJ. This shows more Barbara Orval were able to put together. We have access to working ACLJ.org double the impact donation. This entire month of March.

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We've created three powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally sealed. Jesus/is the first big city to follow his conditions one after another Afghanistan's bases outside of Kabul were captured rotten to the west terracing Kabul caring at the deadliest attack on US troops in over a decade. Afghanistan is lost. Freedom came under attack on my orders United States military has begun strikes in my direction, small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage that killed Osama bin Laden like Dottie Stanton's time to end America's longest will do it responsibly. Listen to behind the sound held American troops and safe Afghans by the thousands, desperate to escape life today. I'm joined by Congressman Mike Watts of Florida representative Walters dedicate his life to this nation graduated from the Virginia Military Institute, having served over 24 years in the U.S. Army is an elite Green Beret wall served in the special forces all over the world for bronze stars and to without currently holds the rank of colonel in the National Guard in addition to representing his home state of Florida to serve as a counterterrorism policy advisor to the White House and representative Walters has experienced Afghanistan and the ferocity of the tele-band first honor to speak with this distinguished American hero. September 7 were here with Congressman Mike Walt Florida first Green Beret to serve in Congress, a guy with a wealth of knowledge of what's happening Congressman unlike a lot of people who are on TV talking about this. You were there you been Afghanistan multiple times. I want to get your feelings in general what's happening because we are just when recording the sloppy parsing this. She was 10 years about motions or hot people are motivated right now and I want to capture this moment because you look back in our lifetime.

Urination very much united after 9/11, the feeling that was that moment. We all kind of remember where you got behind President Bush and Elise for that moment. Nine months out of his presidency September 11 happened about eight months nine months from the binder presidency. This happens you must have uniting in a different way. Because Americans are compassionate people we see what's happening visually and were concerned but how you feel. As someone who is representing an area Florida that I love greatly.

I how do you feel that the people are our people uniting under what's going on Afghanistan receive more political division's need for a lot of myself included work were summer on a spectrum between rage, grief in any given moment is we've gone through this the last several months and now I spent time in the ground special forces officer. I also had to leave the search for that traitor Bergdahl and and and know for sure that good soldiers die looking for and now to see my tears never traded for an now back in charge of what is going to very quickly become a terrorist state again somewhere between rage and mapping that we have to pause for a moment to really appreciate what a disaster this truly is mine multiple levels in ways that I don't mean were going to fully know for some time to come, but it is certainly a disaster from humanitarians whether their ethnic minorities, or when it were so many of our allies journalism society leaders.

He stood for freedom stood with us stood with American against extremism against Islamic diesels Islamic autocracies disaster from a credibility standpoint, Yahoo, and hack in the world with for team USA right now and put their life on the line, and whole families lives on the line you can imagine where people in Taiwan are thinking or in Ukraine are thinking you know that Chinese the Russians and all our adversaries are very clear right now, America will stand with you. I just talked to pastor from the Middle East, he said like a message around the world is that jihadist one, and democracy is lost and that is going to put their recruiting on steroids. Then finally disaster from a counterterrorism stand. We are now far less worse position than we were in 2001. This is going to be a repeat of quickly yanked out of around recklessly under the same team.

The Obama Biden team led to a nice scalping work and how far worse situation when our military has to go back and deal so across-the-board unmitigated brought up that you were leading the team searchable Bergdahl which I a lot of people forget about a lot of these big moments that have happened in the last 20 years. But what you're saying is, is very clear that that's a moment we all kind of look back at and you were there.

What was that like a someone serving knowing there were already these kind of massive noisy missteps but misguided moments were happening on the war on terror. Talk about just a month ago now or two weeks ago I met a decade plus ago. At this point what was that like firsthand how to do that and I can imagine it was 2009 day.

I took command of the border region. The special operations of the border region Bergdahl dessert so you not only the ground work is the White House change counterterrorism advisor worked out in the Pentagon as a reservist I was mobilized, literally leaving the White House and going out and thought, you know I got the strategy and now were executed and all the chest just got kicked over one soldier because we devoted everything to find him, because we knew he'd be such propaganda victory for the undersigned. We also knew at the time this year leftist weapon behind sent emails denouncing America to his father and deserted it was actively working with the town band until they turned on so we know yet. We stopped everything to go get a line because we don't leave American mining even as honestly we did get a passport in NC being celebrated as a hero in the Rose Garden to see Susan Rice pounding on was just a slap in the face and it now. See Guantnamo need for the town band top trappings that the Obama ministration traded friend now see them in charge. It was going to be a terrorist with Al Qaeda is going to come roaring for people that we have a Monsanto and they gave away is a slap in the face slap in the face to every veteran and gave blood and treasure to people like that will absolutely not attribute even with deserters. No one was left. It was a promise now it feels a little ironic when a couple weeks ago we had the same kind of verbiage coming out. No American wants to get out of Afghanistan is going to be left behind.

How do we justify that we know that there are plenty of citizens that are still there and are still having issues getting out. Well, there's two things at least to me.

They're just fundamentally on American why we don't need people to harass dictate the terms for when we go get will we go get our people Republican and members of Congress began pounding the table in April.

As soon as he made this decision we sent you cannot pull all of our military assets before you get our people out and he did exactly that and shut down her face, we should have been going out getting Americans not sending the emails, which are hearing from Tony blanket Jim Saki and others will be notified American 19 times will you send an email saying, well, good luck, and lines. How do America will get you out except in any other piece. At the same time they were notifying everybody leave their other officials say in the same breath that everything's going on.

So it was confusing. Administration did nothing to actively get Americans and bring them safety. Fortunately think God so many veterans organizations run up in a grassroots -like fashion to take charge with this administration failed to leave my own congressional office and so many others turn into operation centers with our staff at night watching literally guiding people through town checkpoints. It is just a mix of incompetence.

I think frankly heartless and naivety to committing your time here because this is a really critical monthly ACLJ will be launching the new year.

This first month of March. It's a matching challenge month is when here's more often we don't do a lot are broadcast. But these months it is important because the ACLJ of course is a 501(c)(3) organization. We exist your financial broadcast all of our attorneys. All the cases all the work we do here United States and around the world working is released or persecuted Christians part of her matching challenge ACLJ.org, only one is most vulnerable. Invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right location offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how sealed Jesus/the American Center for Law and issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Those covering corruption in Washington fighting to protect life courses in commerce ACLJ that way. 2100 constitutional and the other speaking with former congressman Presidential candidate currently attending Col. in the U.S. Army fills a gap representing her home state of Hawaii for eight years, the foreign affairs, armed services and Homeland security committees representative Gabbert began her life of public service. The age of 21 with a successful run for the Hawaii state legislature two years later she declined to run again choosing to volunteer for military service in Iraq as a soldier, she served tours in Kuwait and Iraq and remains active in the U.S. Army reserves working as a civil affairs officer just recently returned from his appointment Africa a special forces mission contract out kind affiliated we are joined today by Tulsa Gabbert, who is beyond many things war veteran is the Middle East and Africa and presently serves as lieutenant colonel in the US Army reserve that I think a lot of people don't even know that you're actively involved in. Maybe they found out the last few weeks because of severe social media post of what you been up to will get to that for sure you continue though to serve our country you voice your support for the withdrawn Afghanistan something that a lot of people it was 80% of the country said they were for the withdrawn Afghanistan, but you've also voiced your disapprove with the way things went. In Afghanistan the withdrawal so I just wanted to get your thoughts on this. What went wrong from your point of view is not only someone who served in the military but also serve the politics thinking long and it's great to talk to you in order to answer that question about what went wrong. I think it's important to really take a step back, talking about something that has been going on here after the last 20 years in Afghanistan that was really instigated that began with the Islamist jihadist attack and declaration of war against our country on 9/11 like so many people that day changed my life and it's really what was the determining factor for me personally to make a decision to enlist in the military to take on this commitment with my life to defeat those who threaten our country to defend the American people against this Islamist jihadist threat now this is a commitment that I've never forgotten. This is an enemy that continues to wage war against us today but unfortunately when we look to the leaders of our country. Initially we went to Afghanistan are special operations forces were sent there to go after defeat Al Qaeda, which they did effectively and decisively and quickly. Instead of staying focused on that mission of both militarily and ideologically defeating this Islamist jihadist threat.

Terrorist groups like Al Qaeda and so on.

Our leaders got distracted and they set us on this other path towards overthrowing secular dictators and follow-on nationbuilding missions and we seen this in Iraq we seen this in Libya we seen this in Syria we've seen this happen over successive Democrat and Republican administrations.

This is come at a great cost to us. The American people.

The results and consequences of this is Al Qaeda stronger today than they were for.

They attacked us on 911 we seen it countless lives lost American lives and the lives of people in these countries trillions of American taxpayer dollars spent we've seen how Christians and religious minorities in many of these countries who were previously protected have either been killed or driven out because of this Islamist jihadist threat and the list goes on and we seen play out in Afghanistan recently is the latest consequence of failed leadership, someone who was involved in the war and really you brought this up with a lot of our guests but for you and for me. We roughly similar age. We were brought up with 9/11 really sort of the backdrop to our young adulthood was exits what motivated you to serve. You brought up the fact that not so sure were in a better place now and I think that's hard for people to hear lives through 20 years of this war, who again for for people of our generation who is very very stark moment of what happened before that the nostalgia in the 90s and now post 9/11 to say well it was any of this worth it if you give your hearsay it we don't necessarily work in a better place. Is that something that can be even changed. I know that's a little off topic but curious your thoughts on that. It just struck me as something that's hard to deal with the normal American I course it has to change. It has to change any changes with leadership changes with the kind of leaders who respect and trust the American people who are honest with the American people and who, most importantly, put the interests of the American people in our country first put country before party put service above self, and unfortunately over time. This is something that we have not seen happen for a whole host of reasons, but ultimately coming down to that to that basic reality with its partisan politics, desire for power or you know continuing to wage these wars that are counterproductive, that do not make us more safe to serve the interests of the military industrial complex, or because you have leaders who are not willing to admit a we were wrong. We screwed up and working to get us back on track as as a country that ultimately what it comes down to is having that kind of leadership the American people and our servicemen and women deserve partisan politics. I think that is becoming a major issue have seen some uniting in a weird way to get some of the imagery we seen in Afghanistan.

The American people are compassionate people you brought this up.

I discussed this as well, which is beyond Republican, Democrat, red or blue. There is a want to unite this time, unlike after 9/11 where people like you said you serve as a uniting even from conservative news and from the liberal news from from red and blue media if you will sign the images coming out of Afghanistan in this horrifying ending so that we can live with that as a society, as you said Logan IN and so many others understood that this withdrawal from Afghanistan needed to happen. Frankly, it should have happened a long time ago.

We should never have embarked on this attempt to build a mini America in Afghanistan.

That effort was destined to fail.

From the outset, however, the way that this withdrawal was carried out with an abject failure and a tragic, tragic disaster and that that's really that's really the case here, and in understanding that there's there's a few different things that were looking at. We were never going to stay in Afghanistan forever. This withdrawal needed to happen. Unfortunately, our leadership did not listen to the commanders on the ground who, months, months before the withdrawal actually occurred in the evacuation operation occurred were warning about what would eventually happen. The failure of the Afghan government that this not evacuate massive evacuation of civilians would need to occur date saw that this is what would happen. And unfortunately leaders at the very top either ignored them or didn't even pay attention to what was really going on. You take your time here because this is a really critical monthly ACLJ will be launching the new year. This first month of March.

It's a matching challenge month is when he hears more often we don't do a lot are broadcast. But these months it is important because the ACLJ of course is a 501(c)(3) organization. We exist because of your financial support. This broadcast all of our attorneys. All the cases all the work we do here in the United States and around the world including our work in Israel. Our work in the Middle East. Our work on behalf of persecuted Christians were representing governor or state because of the pro-life law. If we are again represent the heritage foundation in the fight against the employer vaccine mandate. All those cases were able to do because of your financial support and part of that of course is this broadcast is well worth a matching challenge this month of March. That means we can double the impact of your donation. Let me explain how that works. So if you donate $15 online ACLJ.org right now we have a group of natural donations the entire month dollars is a $15 match $30 part of our matching challenge ACLJ.org the American Center for Law and issues at home and abroad. You can purchase the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 2100.

Checking the constitutional and religious freedoms. Today online keeping you informed and now you want to hear from you, Sharon poster, call one 800-6843 11 day started documenting the act.

It was wrong but became a disastrous withdrawal of US troops resulting in the loss of life force of our US troops will also reduce catastrophe inside Afghanistan continues on to this day, persecution of religious minorities like Christians but also the treatment of women. We know that because of that the Taliban take over the way it was handled the fall of Kabul happening in 48 hours rather than 90 days. This this I give the league of the Afghan government. The, the Afghan military innocents giving up arms as they were unwilling or just unable to fight the Taliban and the full and everything that came with salt.

My brother Logan was has been seeing that with lot of unique individuals with different points of view so you can see a little bit to this today Logan because this is available for people to watch in long format right were tradeshow today is a mix of who was there. It's people like Mike Pompeo, Rick Nelson people you start broadcast but also Tulsa Gabbard, Mike Walt's John Ashcroft cubby.

But two people that were there from the very beginning of this, to Nikki Haley, yeah, it was a really fascinating thing to do. We set out to interview these people originally was done without remaking the 90 minute documentary being a over four hour series that we released it we did real time through doing it as the conflict was unfolding.

So to me it was a fascinating time to get people's raw emotions and is available right off the first time ever in totality on YouTube in every episode will be released the entire series of this limited series will be released by the end of this week's we wrote about your one a day at the 10 episode you most most of the interviews are between 25 to 35 minutes. You can sit down and watch sort of in podcast formative in some ways are there mostly review the other is music incredible score.

There's be roles you get a little more engagement.

People will like it.

As you said earlier people even agree with you really disagree with that was intentionally want to get people's point of use from a bit of our realm and then a bit outside of our rounds.

You have a conflicting version of what you have it ready for me Tulsa Gabbard than you would from Mike Walt's you two different veterans, both with great careers in military, both with two different ways on how we can proceed in Afghanistan in court allowed this was done in August September October of last year. So get a few very real. First I rock for our team for Rick Grenell for Mike Pompeo and they said John Ashcroft was there for the beginning you would have your West Smith who is one of our people here on our panel. He created at Dover. The dignified transfer is where the bodies are transferred.

If you fall in in in warfare the fall and you brought over this whole situation. Explain how that entire project was created and how running that with Tom's incredible emotional experience so really great insight very interesting and exits available on our YouTube channel. Yesterday will give us on our YouTube channel@youtube.com/official ACLJ shows a production that we do that in this longer format longer discussion than you could even do I will.

It's about radio how we have a longer discussion than cable news. This is a longer discussion that we could even do on our broadcasting down one individual uninterrupted and talking to. You're going to people who were there in the White House from the day that war began, for people who are fighting that war people were dealing with the bodies coming back from the war, American soldiers and who are still active duty who will represent US US at the UN. This again you see if some angles and we now know this was foreshadowing pretty disastrous international policy board policy and military decision by providing ministration sober living with right now as we speak. I encourage you as you see the special broadcast day to support the work of the ACLJ. This shows more Barbara Orval were able to put together.

We have access to working ACLJ.org double the impact of your donation.

This entire month of March. Group noticed that every donation that comes in through the month of March 20 dollars relations like 40 is like 100 ACLJ.org donate today in her financially able to ACLJ that will be right back. The American Center for Law and solutions at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Those covering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect the courts and in Congress ACLJ that way comes 100 constitutional and only one.

A society can agree the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life location offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how sealed Jesus/today I'm sitting down to talk to my dad, Jay Sekulow, chief counsel American Center for Law and Justice and the European center on justice. My father's accomplished and internationally respected judicial advocate presented oral arguments for the Supreme Court in nine states. Numerous times defend the Constitution constitutional freedoms, especially those involving religious liberty is also address United Nations defense. The state of Israel national Law Journal named him one of the hundred most influential lawyers in America is also the New York Times best-selling author multiple books including the rise of Isis is been honored for his work defending human rights and religious liberty around where joined today by chief counsel American Center for Law and Justice, and my dad Jay Sekulow out who is been involved in this ongoing beginning days of the war on terror, the more they are think that some people don't necessarily know everything will have the twenty-year overview but really your real work started pretty early in this area for the attack actually received a call by the Atty. Gen. United States John Ashcroft. He asked if I would assist in the drafting, especially the constitutional issues and was called the patriot act which allowed governmental agencies to share information regarding terrorism with other governmental agencies inside the United States and been pretty much silos before the end of the CIA knew something they were maturing innocently with the Defense Department of the FBI had something necessarily go to the CIA so general Ashcroft as a group of lawyers with me can*be at Dan Paul Clement, others to look at improving the law so that our capabilities could shift because we had to go from a law enforcement capability, which is what the department justice primarily due to a counterterrorism approach and general Ashcroft was instrumental and then I was fortunate enough horrible circumstances to be able to work with him on the patriarch in the patriot act is been something brought up many times throughout the year for good and bad people of have expressed that there are administrations and maybe have use the patriot act to overreach. It seems like at times to not use what they originally intended was for me. Originally we had sunset provisions in the act because the titling anybody anticipated that 20 years after that I could pass that would still be engaged in this kind of war on terror that we are so there's been some abuses is no doubt about it. I think the overall approach. The law was right was right for the country at the time and was something that we needed to do anything to prevent another future attacks but got put yourself back into those days right after September 11 12 when I was in Washington and I'm still saying you know from our apartment. I don't remember this from the apartment on Pennsylvania Avenue.

We had looked at the Pentagon. Then he saw the smoke days so it was a different time.

It was a different time for America. We brought this with a lot of our guests which is, it felt like a very unifying moment.

Now we again for those who watch the series and 11?

Before but it's nine months into a presidency was September 11 attack in one of the Bush ministration was topic uniting the country.

All of us aggressively against what was going on in Afghanistan and inevitably happen in Iraq, there was more division there now are nine months into a presidency and was 10 months or minutes to presidency is a roughly the same amount of time is passed from when George W Bush took office September 11 to present.

Biden took office, to the what ended up being the very failed pull out of Afghanistan to see people not uniting that way maybe uniting their baby is finally some agreement that, but not towards a political party.

It's an agreement that this was just agree just look a lot of the Republicans and Democrats want to get out of Afghanistan. Beginning 20 years. Then there was others and looks like now that we've learned from the military after their testimony last several days, we learned that the military wanted to keep that for some 2500 in place because they felt that was sufficient to keep the Afghanistan army engaged with the fall of the Afghan army that really created the problem but it was the fall of the states intelligence community that did anticipate what was going to happen here and there been very serious geopolitical consequences of this and I'm trying to look at it historically were there for 20 years fighting them over there was better than fighting them over here in their intent was to bring it to us. They did bring it to us 20 years ago they brought it to the United States. We had a deal with it in the United States. I had it all.

Never forget them. In this part of the 9/11 experience.

The horrible aspects of it. We then had the anthrax attack and remember that your brother and I were in Washington. I was in the Supreme Court building department justice in the White House. All three of which had anthrax mindset was different. What Washington DC is on the street side went to dinner with the raw from her office and Jordan was in school and we went to Blackie steakhouse steakhouse in Washington DC and on the corners of the streets were there tanks is a different time than speaking with ACLJ senior military analyst and chaplain Col. West Smith. Smith is a highly decorated veteran who served 26 years in the Army, including combat appointments in the Middle East. Col. Smith served as the senior Army chaplain at Dover Air Force Base in the Dover Port mortuary as well as a senior ranking Army chaplain for overwatch of all casualty operations was also redesigned casualty notification system for the entire army. Among his numerous awards and decorations of the global war on terror metal Saudi Arabia liberation of Kuwait metal in the Kuwait liberation is also an Episcopal priest affiliated with the diocese of Atlanta.

We are just about a day removed from the really heartbreaking moment that a lot of us watched happen live the bodies, the remains of our fallen servicemen returning back to American soil to Dover Air Force Base and again it was a moment that was hard to watch was important to watch and I wanted to start this off by bringing someone who maybe would know more about this type of situation by just about anyone that is retired chaplain Col. West Smith who works with American civil justice by many different capacities. But Wessel wanted to talk to you specifically today because this was part of your duty at Dover. But for a lot of people didn't even know the backup. Why give us a little bit your background that but also why these moments happen. Why is it feel like it in somewhat. It's it was a very public kind of display whenever anyone is killed overseas to include civilian contractors, members of the CIA as well as military service personnel.

They are brought back through the Dover Port mortuary but open to till 2009, there were no families and generally speaking, there was no media present Obama a few months in his first term, said that course casualties were high than our Iraq war was going on, as well as the Afghanistan war and he said you know families should be allowed to come and to to actually witness the final homecoming of their loved one at Dover Air Force Base at government expense.

And yet, when he made this decision to things had not happened. There were no facilities there to really accomplish this, we had a mortuary, but no place for families and and also the casualty notification process had not been revised since the first Gulf War.

So I was assigned to the Pentagon and then ultimately assigned to Dover Air Force Base to do to thanks and that was first of all to totally revamp rewrite the casualty notification system so that was more uniform with the advent of social media and cell phones which were not around during first Gulf War. We had to change how families were notified. So I initially got there I worked the cash ration system and then also ensure that that Training Took Pl., Army wide so that when casualty teams go out now they go with the casualty officer officer as well as a chaplain, two-person team and all that other notified it's really important.

There couple things. A lot of people don't know it's not called the ceremony as a ceremony. Somehow we felt like graded what was going on there. This is a service member's final homecoming and his family is there to witness something that is very sacred and so we always refer to it as a dignified transfer the file homecoming of service member. So we began doing that. Almost immediately, but we had to work on the facilities. We also go to a chapel meditation room and then we took an existing building and we made it into what is called the Center for the families of the fallen. It's like a reception here that you would see in a funeral home. Only much, much larger barely very elegantly appointed there always representatives of our government who come to greet the families and who take part as the official party on the tarmac for the dignified transfer. So part of my job was to set up this intermission because it did not exist in this background so that like yesterday when I when I watch the dignified transfer.

It brings back a lot of memories of how that mission was put together. And of course a lot of emotional memories as well because as you said Logan. It is a very touching, moving, patriotic ceremony that takes place on the flight line in the presence of the family members.

My team and I came up with what we call the gold standard part of what I brief the dignitaries GOL D. The G stood for Greek. The family of the oh no students were offered condolences. The L listen and then D, don't be defensive because frequently as we saw over the weekend families are angry there angry at what happened there angry at what what life is thrown at them and sometimes there angry at the government or at the President or whomever and so that last part is so important, and in most of the people that I dealt with that with a lot of people say they followed that advice. GOL D. Note greet offered condolences. Listen, don't be defensive very, very well. Your time here because this is a really critical monthly ACLJ I will be launching the new year is challenging the seal only when a society can only whole invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying the American Center for Law and Justice location offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how sealed Jesus/the American Center for Law and issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom to those covering corruption in Washington fighting to protect life reports and in Congress ACLJ that way.

2100 constitutional and talking to the executive director of the ACLJ also happens to be my brother during secular joint is an attorney and host of secularly syndicated radio program providing cutting analysis of today's political and legal landscape with elected officials and conservative leaders. Jordan serves as a liaison for the ACLJ and its international affiliates is engaged in high level legal policy discussions with leaders and government officials regarding human rights issues around the world is October 5, 2021, joined today by the executive director of the ACLJ and my brother Jordan secular joint. Do we need to hold people washing accountable for the last few months and how do we only got was something that there are political actions taken place or something. Where as you said many times elections have consequences, and we remember you have to member the election consequences that you got to do something about it so I don't think that you were polarized country and it's easy now to get the access to information, you can go right to your phone you can you could dial up whatever history what whatever information you want, but ultimately people of God to God, they they have to hold all these individuals accountable at the ballot box and the party that they represent the people that empower them as well. ACLJ point of view is Executive Director Ms. LJ. A lot of people turn to us when there were times of crisis. Whether it's religious freedom which looked part of this in the war in Afghanistan part of the reason we were fighting was for religious freedom for people something that they have for 20 years and sadly don't end up working members of the ACLJ do. What do you do with the ACLJ to actively respond when situations like this happen, including spreading the word through me. I think this whole idea what were dealing with is a country. This is don't take for granted that everybody is is an expert in world affairs. What's going on in the Islamic world. I think there was a wake-up call to a lot of people. We see acts of terror before from Al Qaeda targeted US embassies, US troops, but it was always overseas that when terrorism came home to United States started recruiting Americans to carry out these attacks from communities, various communities were people were feeling isolated and just oppose that with the trump administration putting four the Abraham Accords and the peace agreements working together with countries like Saudi Arabia a lot changes in 20 years, but I think what it did was it woke including the ACLJ financial security practice of ACLJ. These laws have these laws affect us at home, and the actions we take abroad in the international work in a survey we been a country at war for my entire career at ACLJ. Most of my entire life was. It was a nation at war. So what did that mean something different for our generation was not may be as divisive. This is Vietnam, and in some of the more recent conflicts that were at the scale but ultimately part of the ACLJ's mission now taken for granted.

To an extent, is not just calling out radicalism and supporting religious liberty. But doing so in the toughest places in the world today. In speaking with former US Secretary of State, CIA director Mike Pompeo, Sec. Pompeo also served four terms in Congress, representing Kansas fourth district reset on the House intelligence committee as well as the energy and commerce committee and the House select Benghazi committee. Pompeo graduated first in his class in the United States military Academy at West Point, served five years in the U.S. Army. Sec. Pompeo is currently the senior counsel for global affairs at the ACLJ possesses unparalleled experience regarding US foreign policy dealing with Afghanistan September 7, 2021, and we are joint by Sec. Mike Pompeo who is gonna talk a bit about Natalie, his role in the previous administration, but also no looking back on the history of Afghanistan and the Taliban and in sort of what's unfolding the last few weeks for our allies who clearly a lot of them in the EU, even in the UK some extent people were thrilled to see you, Pres. Biden be elected.

Times are changing.

A lot of respect is lost there on the global scale from our allies are concerned they should be honestly I may be giving us the only ownership of the world as they do a thing that we have to protect.

Now you can believe that the Americans always to be there for us but for you, thinking that respect back from our ally. Some of the very powerful like is like the United kingdoms of our strongest allies who are publicly coming MPs come out and say we don't know we can trust that American superpowers can be the one to help in back is to sure will get a great speech in Brussels. No United Nations again solve this credibility problem. Second, actions matter.

You can you can about the size and number of things. The ministration could do right that the NATO folks are wondering why on earth. It was they were prepared to do that we were prepared to to get there, folks, we should demonstrate that we in fact are still with Narcan within our power. You can imagine. Another place that people want, you can imagine doing things that have a delivery on some of the equipment ministration sold them actually have it show up things that would demonstrate real American resolve to defend American interests around the world sending our young men and women to do that Cisco take delivery against a set of promises that we made to these friends and allies and partners give you more about this stop traveling to be added to meet with Islamic Republic of Iran. Just for a moment the arrays have now launched missiles out of Gaza and Israel on this administration's watch.

You could imagine. Say will that's just unacceptable no longer going to initiate the simple things but Realty brought about the relative calm that happened. I think a lot of people forgotten and I try to bring it up often whenever I was debating personally when many my friends are publicly on our radio broadcasting lesson. You're all forgetting about the situation in Israel.

It was like under the Obama forgetting about ISIS like feel like because the trumpet ministration was so strong and so did defeated ISIS very quickly rapidly. Our memories are not very long and people stopped thinking about it and it didn't become a big talking point. Maybe you should've. Maybe this should be something that conservatives next time around are running on saying no.

Remember what happened here. This is something quickly.

We as Americans can forget that the Middle East in crisis, incident, meaning our country. Also gets involved in our country and something crisis. I hated the minute didn't become a bigger issue even during the last election we all want churches to our faith communities to school affect our lives every moment of your right forget what it means that there is chaos around the world doesn't mean we have to police it all means that America needs to be out there demonstrating resolve leadership week we created Abraham Accords without sending a bunch of folks into the desert to go fight and die week set of alliances that peace and stability. There in the way that no one believed that we could possibly do hope people will remember and consider us as we go to the ballot box in Alexa B is all that good stuff.

Remember that these conservative ideas not abounding in a Republican or central to the very peace and prosperity here at home that we count on your time here because this is a really critical monthly ACLJ, I will be launching the new year. This the first month of March. It's a matching challenge month is when he hears more often we don't do a lot are broadcast.

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