FBI warns of "coordinated" terror attack; Iranian attack on Israel imminent

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilhorne. Hi, everyone.

So glad you're here. It's been a busy week. Keep in mind: if you ever have to leave your local affiliate and you want to continue to listen to the show, just go to the Fox News app, click on the headset you want to watch, and click on watch, and then swipe until you get to the show because we stream on Fox Nation. This hour, we're going to be joined by Mike Pompeo in a matter of moments, and we'll be taking your phone calls too. We have a lot going on.

We know the President of the United States is going to be meeting with a speaker today over in Mar-a-Lago. But first, there could be FISA rules amended and passed for a two-year deal sometime this morning.

So we're following all of this, and this at 4:30 this afternoon is when the Trump Speaker Johnson press conference will be held. Very interesting. They're going to focus on election integrity.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. And then the Mueller report came out, and no collusion. And, you know, I think we sort of learned the sort of story kind of disappeared, you know, despite. Despite our feelings about Trump, this is a story we should have sort of treated differently.

You think so? Yuri Berliner, the NPR 25-year editor who just came out in a free press story and then later on with Barry Weiss, talk about what's happening at NPR. That even though he's a Democrat that would never vote for Trump, he could not believe the biases that has taken place with his organization. And now there's some blowback. Is he going to lose his job or will things change with a new CEO?

Number two. Our most immediate concern has been that individuals or small groups will draw some kind of twisted inspiration from the events in the Middle East. to carry out attacks here. at home. That is the FBI director.

Get it together. Terror challenges everywhere thanks to the terror den we repopulated when we left Afghanistan as the distrust grows between Americans, Congress, and the FBI.

Meanwhile, regional war looms as Iran prepares to directly hit Israel in 48 hours. We'll talk to Secretary of State Pompeo about that. Number one. Can somebody explain to me in crayon eating terms why I make over three times the federal minimum wage and I cannot afford to live? And I do not want to hear the pull yourself up from your bootstraps, work 90 hours a week.

Nick Summers, a TikTok guy who didn't go to college, outraged that everyone else getting their loan forgiven. He says he couldn't afford it, works as a mechanic, and was just on with us. He first posted on TikTok and just joined us on Fox and Friends to talk about what his life is like and why is that?

Well, on normal economic terms, forget about macroeconomics, GDP, or anything else. If you look up and down, credit card debt in this country has risen 46% in three years. Do you know the cost per pound of things like flour up 24%, bread up 29%, butter 23%, steak 28%? And if 60% of the country live in a paycheck to paycheck, that's a big deal. And you want to talk about policies and abortion bans.

If you really want to hurt the American people or help them, Fix inflation. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo doesn't do that but fixes everything else. He's former Secretary of State and CIA director, best-selling author. Mr. Secretary, welcome back.

Rock, great to be with you. We can fix inflation, too. Good election in November, and we'll be on our way. And you got that West Point education. They don't just let you focus on the military.

You do have to take economics courses.

So, Mike, first off, I got to ask you about the Iranians and our intelligence that says that within 48 hours they want to directly hit Israel. General Jack Keene says, I don't think so. He goes, they're vulnerable. You know, they got drones, yeah. But they are not impenetrable, and they know they'll pay a heavy price if they directly hit Israel.

What do you think?

Well, first, I think the Iranians will take some kind of response. I don't know what it'll be. I don't know if it'll be inside of Israel or, frankly, Brian, more likely, maybe this is what John Keen was speaking to: an Israeli target somewhere else in the world. You could imagine one in Europe. Given what's going on on our southern border, who knows?

Maybe here. Uh We ought to take seriously the threats that they have made. Israel's pretty capable of defending itself from drones and missiles. None of us can stop them also. I suppose it's possible for them to penetrate that.

But the larger point is this. We've lost deterrence in the Middle East. It's come unhinged from October seventh to the hundreds of attacks against American interests in the region since October seventh. The Iranians no longer fear us and our Gulf Arab ally friends Are very worried about American weakness in the region, and that pretends bad things for our young men and women who have had to go fight and risk their lives there too many times. We need to get this deterrence back.

I think it's going to take new leadership. You think? No doubt about it. Do you think Anthony Blinken and Jake Sullivan are up to this job? Do you think that Lloyd Austin has shown that he's got the compunction to assert himself?

Do you think President Biden is doing anything but reacting? When's the last time, Mr. Secretary, you even heard him call out Iran for the chaos they've created? Brian, I would add to that. It's been a long time.

Even more than that, when's the last time he's spoken at length about the fact that we have Americans? being held by the Iranians in Gaza. You can call it Hamas, but in the end, you and I both know that the progenitor of this problem set is the Iranians. He just doesn't talk about these things. He wants to still get back into some silly nuclear deal while Iran is literally on the cusp of having enough enriched uranium to build multiple weapons.

Uh truly dangerous. When you when you're when you when everything you do, you're afraid you're going to escalate and that you're focused on collecting votes in Dearborn, Michigan instead of keeping our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines safe. That is a real risk to the United States of America, Brian.

Well, I'll tell you what. Netanyahu was standing in front of an F-15, and he said: if they hit us, if they hurt us, we will hurt them twice as hard on some level. And you understand the military mindset. If you have three enemies and they continue to take shots at you daily. And now that your country is finally in a war footing, is there a part of the Israeli military mindset that thinks, let's get this over with?

Because it's only going to get harder if we leave Hezbollah, Hamas, and don't show Iran what they would face if they take us on. Brian undoubtedly I think the Israeli leadership knows. That the destruction of Hamas is necessary and they're going to continue it. But I think they also know while it's necessary, it's not sufficient. still bribe you still have Between eighty and one hundred thousand Israelis, they can't go back to their homes because Hezbollah now is firing rockets into the northern part of their country.

We'd never tolerate that. At least we'd never tolerate that if we had a president who had The capacity to defend America. We'd never tolerate firing missiles onto our property and causing 100,000 people to have to move out of Florida or New York or California. And yet that's the situation they face.

So I suspect that our military leader is saying, Let's go clean this up. There's no going back to october sixth. I'm sure there will be those in the world who will criticize us first, but in the end, our responsibility is to keep our people safe. They want to put Israel first the same way the Trump administration put our country first. I frankly hope that they'll get that right.

So it's been fascinating, and I got so sick of hearing the American press outside this station. I went to Israeli news, just local news, and I went on YouTube and I just watched to see how they were covering this. And there is. Such I would say hurt and shock. about President Biden's stance about the war in Gaza.

They don't come out and say he's terrible and incompetent, but they say once again his statement and they roll it in, and they can't believe it. It's as if they said America forgot how this whole thing started.

Now, we have always other administrations have had friction with Israel. That's not unusual. But this is another level. Don't you agree? complete another level.

when you have the United States Secretary of State Talk about the moral equivalence, the fact that it may become indistinguishable between Hamas and Israel. you that train has left the station. And what I mean by that is, The leadership of Hamas and Iran sees that and says, green light. Yeah. opportunity in front of us.

The American leadership is weak. And we're going to go extract as much as we can from Israel while this President is still in office. It's unlike anything I've seen before. Your point about friction, shoot, we were as close to Israel as probably any administration in the last 50 years, but we had our moments too. That's natural.

But this administration has chosen to part with our friend, our ally. They are no longer sufficiently supportive of the rightful Jewish homeland of the people to live in this place. And you've seen what they've done on BDS. I mean, the list is long, what they did at the United Nations. We should stand shoulder to shoulder with the Israeli people while we're trying to defend their nation from the terrorists that put their home in Tehran.

And by the way, they they cannot there's no there's no question they have to go into Rafa, correct? General Keene said you just got to give a passageway to get some civilians out, but they cannot possibly not go in there. They'll go to they'll go to Rafa. They'll go to rough. They've got to eliminate this threat.

You can't stop short. Victory has to be achieved. They have to win, and they have to have a security. system, a security architecture when they whenever they call done, they've got to have a security architecture that provides real security for their own people from Gaza. I'm sure you've seen the debate on Capitol Hill and the distrust with Christopher Wray, especially amongst Republicans when you think about McCabe, when you think about Strzok, you think about Page.

That didn't happen under him, but they're still members of the FBI and people were working to hurt you guys for four years. It has been more apparent almost every day. Here's Christopher Wray going about for some of the surveillance tools he used, some of which were abused. But first, here's his plea yesterday to Congress, Cut 12. Section 702 is indispensable in keeping Americans safe from a whole barrage of fast-moving foreign threats.

It is crucial to identifying terrorists in the homeland, working with or inspired by a rogues gallery of foreign terrorist organizations who have publicly called for attacks. Against our country. Is he right? Brian, he's right. But with that, I'll Awesome.

Yeah. comes the responsibility to Clean your stuff up. to when someone breaks the rules, whether it's Section seven hundred two or warrant requirements, whatever it is that the FBI is doing to execute its duty to keep us safe, you've got to hold people accountable. And that's the failure. And that's why you see this distrust Section seven hundred two is important.

I saw it as a CI director It saved American lives with absolute certainty to figure out where these bad guys. Are talking from what they're doing. Communicating back here into the United States to people they've now infiltrated inside of our country is an absolutely vital tool. And, you know, I've not seen the reforms that have been put in place. They're good.

There's now bigger criminal penalties. They've cut down on the number of people who can have access to this information.

So it's better. You know, it'll never be perfect, Brian. There's always going to be bad actors in the world. But when that happens, you have to crush them. You have to put them in jail.

for what they did. When they violate U.S. law and the privacy rights of the American people, they have to be held accountable. I hope we'll keep 702, and I hope we'll keep FBI agents doing what they're supposed to do, not what Jim Comey had them doing against our administration. Right.

And Christopher Ray tried to clean that up, but he's not regained the trust, and no one's really been fired. In fact, they all end up with MSNBC and CNN contracts. Here's Christopher Ray on the plethora of attacks and things that are keeping him up at night. Cut 11. You've got Hezbollah expressing support and praise for Hamas and threatening to attack U.S.

interests in the region. You've got Al-Qaeda issuing its most specific call. for an attack against us. against the U. S.

in the last five years. You've got AQAP, Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, calling for jihadists to attack Americans and Jewish communities in the U. S. You've got ISIS urging its followers repeatedly to attack Jewish communities in the US. And he was just rattling him off.

I don't think he. He's not much of an exaggerator. Do you think. What do you think his uh his clipboard looks like? He said, I think last time he testified that this is as a red a light as he has ever seen.

I agree. Director Ray is not much of an exaggerator. He's seeing all this. I can't believe he's not. Maybe he is in the situation room.

looking at the at Majorca saying, you gotta shut this border down. You're going to get Americans killed. All of the things he highlighted there, whether it was Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or Hezbollah, all of these things are exacerbated, Brian, by the fact that we now have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people in our country, and we have no idea. who they are. where they came from or what their intentions are that they are here now.

It has to be keeping lots of senior FBI law enforcement people from Milwaukee to Sacramento to Austin, Texas. It has to be keeping them just on their toes trying to figure out how do we track all this malfeasance, all this risk inside of our country when we've got this enormously porous southern border. It's a challenging time for Director Ray. I know what you want. But as an analyst, which you are.

What do you think President Trump's chances of winning in November are right now? I think really good. And I think the chances are really good, not because of some pool data that I have seen, but because as I travel around the country to talk to people from all stripes, they are struggling to figure out how to pay their rent Keep their mortgage current and take care of their families and kids. They see this. We talk about it as inflation as it's its big thing, but it's It's what it costs to fill the tank of gas.

It's what it costs to put scrabbled eggs in your kids' breakfast. or bologna on your kids' sandwich. These are the things that the American people are struggling with today. And I think when a push comes to shove in November, they may see noise from President Trump, but they're going to see the signal that Americans can return to a better time and their lives can be better. And I think in the end, in the seven states that will make the difference in the Electoral College, I think President Trump wins nearly all of them.

Would you join his administration if he wins? Do you like that? been asked this a couple of times my answer is always the same if I can serve and help and have an impact Sign me up. No one's asked me. I've had no job offered to me.

But if I can help the United States and the American people deliver good outcomes, sign me up. Oh, you can stay with us, too. We're not bad. Not bad at all, Brian. All right.

Mr. Secretary, thanks so much. Mike Pompeo, great start. Appreciate it. 1-866-408-7669.

I'll take your calls when we come back. I also want you to hear the exchange yesterday between Christopher Wray and a congressman from California. Wow. Back in a moment. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis because man, do you need to know?

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A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. And I just get a simple yes or no response to this question. Does the open border policy make your job easier or harder or be safer or less safe? as a result of the open border policy.

I have been consistent over the years, frankly, in citing my concerns about the threats that emanate from the border. And as to the long narrative that you went through at the beginning, needless to say, I disagree very strongly with any number of aspects of it. Congressman Garcia, some of the exchange yesterday basically looked at Chris Ray at one point and said, I don't believe anything you're saying. I mean, it's just such a bad point in America when the FBI director, they just accuse him of lying. It's not James Comey, and it's not saying I did this or this to Donald Trump.

They're talking about his ability to create havoc and make sure Biden reinforces the border. He doesn't feel as though he's doing that or that he's fully straightened out the FBI. Joel, listening in Naples, Florida. Hey, Joel. Hi, Brian.

I have a question. It seems like Israel almost knows where the hostages are and where Hamas is hanging out. And I just wanted to mention that. it do you think they really know where they're at that they just can't get in because it's Rafa? My hunch is yes.

But then again, would I ever think that their intelligence was so bad that allowed these October seventh to happen? My sense is yes. I mean, the fact is they provided video. As soon as they pulled out of the South, do you know rockets started going off again for the Hamas? But they provided video.

So they knew exactly where those rockets are coming from. Are they going to be destroyed today? I don't know. They know roughly, I think, where he is because I was watching some videos of captured Hamas fighters not under duress. And they were talking about where everyone is and for the for the Israeli public.

So do I think that they have a way of getting information? Yes. You know, Joe, you made me think we should I should get that son of Hamas guy. Musab on again and maybe answer that question for you. Listen, I'll be able to take some questions the rest of the hour, take some calls, I should say.

I'm also going to bring up more of this heated exchange between Mike Garcia and the FBI director, who seems kind of unflappable. Also, more in this Yupa Uh more on this. UPI story. A radio show like no other is Brian Killmead. Can somebody explain to me in crayon eating terms why I make over three times the federal minimum wage and I cannot afford to live?

And I do not want to hear the pull yourself up from your bootstraps, work 90 hours a week. That's not the goal, guys.

So that is a ranter on TikTok that we interviewed this morning. And he works, he said, I couldn't go to Ford College, although anyone could afford college. You can go to a junior college school. You can pay it off gradually. It's very affordable.

But he didn't want to go to college.

So he started working for a car service. It looks like he might be a mechanic. And he said he's working double minimum wage, which makes sense because you can't find mechanics, double minimum wage. He lives by himself and he can't afford a two-room or a one-bedroom apartment. He lives over in Virginia.

And then it just outraged him after talking to him that Joe Biden did it again. He has now forgiven more student loan debt. He's now up to $7.48 billion in student loan debt. And he says between that and the illegal immigrants they were giving full room and board to and now debit cards in New York, he has had it. He said, what about America first, but wouldn't reveal who he's voting for?

Ben Dominich joins us now, editor-at-large for the Spectator World, Fox News contributor. He's got the Ben Dominich podcast. Ben, have you heard that sentiment for this next generation? I absolutely have. I mean, I've heard it all over the place.

And, you know, it's funny. I have a lot of friends who are in the same category. They either did some college or junior college, community college, that kind of thing. And then they went into the trade space. And what they really tell me is is that this is it's an incredible challenge because at this moment, you know, those sort of skilled jobs, those manual labor jobs, are actually in huge demand.

And they can't find people who are willing to do them in a lot of cases because they have so much, frankly, largesse welfare, et cetera, that is being thrown at them by this administration and that has been thrown at them ever since the beginning of COVID, really, that they basically are not willing to come out and work. And then in terms of that, it means that they can't take on as many projects as they want. They can't take on as many things as they want that actually have people working a job that pays them enough to have the ability to live the way that they want to. It's easier for them to not work and to live off of the taxpayer dime than it is for them to work and find themselves shorter and shorter when it comes to the end of the month. And that's something that I just think is absolutely underrated in terms of what's driving The popularity of former President Trump because this is the thing that people don't seem to understand is that the shift that has happened is something we have not seen in decades in politics.

You have to go back to 84 and Reagan in terms of the level of shift that we've seen among the hardhat working class community of black and Hispanic men in particular who are coming back around to support Donald Trump. It's because they're the ones who are hit by this White House, and this White House. If you look at their priorities, if you look at the issues that they're talking about, it essentially comes down to Hamas has a right to exist and babies don't. And that's the sort of thing that they are saying over and over again, week after week. And who does that appeal to?

That's suburban voters, that's upper-educated voters, and it's angry college students. It's not the kind of people who actually work with their hands.

Well, 60% of the people listening to us right now live paycheck to paycheck in America.

So when you have cost per pound, a flour up 24%, of bread up 29% since Joe Biden took off, a spaghetti and macaroni, 8.4%, butter, 23%. How is that? Get this. Eggs, 104%. You know, and I'll tell you this, Brian.

My daughters are three and one. When you have kids, when you have especially young kids, you go to the grocery a lot more than you do when you've got older kids and you've got, you know, or if you're childless. One of the big Shifts that we have actually noticed, the economists pointed this out, is that the people who have shifted have, there's a vast overrepresentation of young school-age kids in terms of parents of those young kids that shifted. Why? Because they see those prices.

They see those eggs prices and those butter prices and those milk prices every single time that they go to the grocery store. And they say, what the heck is going on here? Because you feel it so much more intensely if you have that experience. And that's what I think is driving this. And the White House doesn't care.

They just don't care about it. They're pretending like it isn't happening. And I think that they're in for a really rude awakening because I think those poll numbers are not going to shift the way that they expect. They expect that the typical Democratic machine will be able to pull black and Hispanic voters back in their direction. I don't think it's going to work this time.

So people, and people don't need to see this, but if you want to picture this, see, people say, well, inflation was skyrocketing. When we took over, it was at 9%. And we've now it's a.

Now it's just rising at 2%.

So picture this. Picture a bar graph, and it's a 9. All right. And then picture adding the 2 on top of the 9, not instead of the 9. Because it's only growing slower, but it is still growing.

And it works more slowly than it used to be.

So this is why President Biden said this yesterday. This is just an outright lie, cut to.

Well, I do stand by my prediction that before the year is out there be a rate cut. This may delay it a month or so. I'm not sure of that. We don't know what the Fed is going to do for certain. But look, we have dramatically reduced inflation from 9 percent down to close to 3 percent.

We're in a situation where we're a better situated than we were when we took office, where inflation was skyrocketing. And we have a plan to deal with it. It was not skyrocketing. Do you really think he's selling people on that? I don't think that that solves the problem for any mom or dad who just came back from the grocery store.

It's not true. Like, I'm buying the same things that I was two, three years ago, and I'm breaking $100 to do it where before it was $60. It's just something that I think is. Incredible in terms of how out of touch it sounds. It's like he's making a case that is meant for the MSNBC audience, for the same people who, again, you know, it's like they have these priorities that are just completely out of touch with the priorities of the vast majority of Americans.

And I think that, you know, that's just the same kind of obliviousness that they had on the border in the sense that they just pretend like it's not an issue. It's not an issue. It's not an issue. It's not an issue. If I were Democrats, the smartest thing that they could do going into this election would have been to get rid of Secretary Mayorkis, to just say to this impeachment inquiry, you know, this whole effort, you know, forget about it.

We're just going to replace him.

Okay. Because at least then they could point to something and say, hey, look, things need to improve. We're turning things around. We've got a new guy in there, whoever that new guy is. And maybe it wouldn't actually.

Work because I think their policies wouldn't change, but they could at least point to something like, Hey, we hear you, we hear that this is a problem, we're gonna take a new direction, have some guy who looks tougher on camera, and that kind of thing. But but they don't, they just are completely oblivious about what people care about. Right, they don't replace anyone unless they cross-dress and steal luggage with a mustache besides that took a while, right? Even that took a while. And plus, can you imagine, Ben, your company, if your staff at lunchtime protested against you?

He has people protesting in masks from his own staff.

Well, it's pro-Israel. I mean the the thing that is First off, if that happened under any responsible administration, those people would come back to their desk from that lunch break and find a pink slip. You're done, okay? This is over. That's fine.

You want to go protest? Do it on your own time and find somebody else to fund it for you. It's not something that I think is acceptable by any means, but it also is indicative of the kind of people that are within this administration that they have chosen to hire and that come from within this. Frankly, crazy group of young Democrats who are completely opposed to supporting Israel in any real way. I don't buy for one second that it's about some sophisticated political ideological break with Benjamin Netanyahu.

It's just opposition to Israel and our allies. And I think that that's something that's been true, frankly, ever since day one of this Biden administration.

So I want to talk about the possibility of getting a debate together. President Trump really wants to do it, but he wants to do it earlier. Even though Ronna McDaniels, RNC, walked away from the Council on Debate. The Presidential Commission. It looks like the President's still reaching out to him.

The co-chair, Frank Farenkoff, and Antonio Hernandez and Susie Wiles and Lacavita are all talking about doing this, and they all agree there should be a debate. They're asking for it earlier because of early voting. No response yet from the White House. In your prediction, Ben, Dominic, do you believe there'll be a debate? I believe there will be a debate.

I believe there will be one debate. And I think the reason that there will be one is because the Biden White House is not going to be able to avoid the fact that there are a lot of people in Biden's camp who think that he does well when he gets out on camera and proves to people that he's capable of just standing up and talking for a certain amount of time. You know, that was the attitude that they had about the State of the Union. I think when it comes to this, if he was ahead by any significant amount consistently in polling averages and the like, then I think the answer would be no, there would be no debates, but he's not. And so they, I think, need to at least entertain the possibility internally.

And I think that once that starts to be entertained, they'll say, you know what? We can get on stage with Donald Trump for 90 minutes and we can show that Joe Biden can still hack it. But I think that if that happens, I think it'll be a huge mistake for them because I think that if anything, the president, the former president has shown himself to be, I think, an incredibly capable figure on the debate stage when he is on offense and he will come on offense. And I think that that's something that will, frankly, disrupt them a lot more. I think that the debates cycle that we had in 20 was not representative at all.

We didn't even get a foreign policy debate because of all that Michigas. And he did the first debate, frankly, as we know now, probably suffering from the effects of COVID.

So one of these things that I think we'll actually get a chance to see these two guys on stage together. And I think that if that happens, I just don't think it's going to be close in terms of a comparison. I think it would be.

Something that would hurt Biden a lot, but I think that they'll have to do it just because of the dynamics. You just can't have a moderator working for the other guy again, like last time. This is that, look. This has been something I've been screaming about for 20 years. It is complete nonsense, okay, to have moderators who are essentially just technology.

Tag teaming with the Democratic nominee, as we've seen time and time again. It's just unacceptable. It's what the Commission has put together time and time again. It's why Rana broke with them. And I think that this is a situation where they are going to have to make sure that that's just not something that happens this time.

All right, so Fox did a poll. They asked people: is it important for the debate? Everybody was asked, they said extremely important. 64% said yes. 71% were Republicans, 60% said Democrats.

Somewhat important, 35% all, 39% and 28%.

So it is extremely important to the American people to see a debate. Ben, I'm a little late, but I want you to hear this. This is my big worry: the FBI, Congress, and the American people on separate pages when we can't afford it. And I believe so many people agree with Congressman Mike Garcia. This is what he said to Christopher Wray yesterday: Cut 13.

I'll be honest with you, and this pains me to say this, but. I don't trust you at all. I don't think that this is necessarily a funding problem that we have for your agency as much as a leadership problem. And you have held no one truly accountable for prior FISA abuses that we have all seen and recognized. You've stood relatively silent and passive about the biggest.

national security threat to our nation. That being Our very open southern border. I give very little credence in either your ability to do this job or, frankly, lead the brave agents below you. I don't trust you to protect us.

So that's how the Congressman from California feels. Do you think other people feel that way? Do you feel that way? I do feel that way. I mean, I think that a lot of the American people feel that way.

And I think that the lack of trust in the institution is at the core of all of these objections. It's what the Freedom Caucus is, frankly, hearing from their constituents, which is what is driving their resistance to this.

Now, look, I've heard from Andy McCarthy and others the case to be made that this is something that's essential. And I certainly don't think that we can afford to be caught with our hands tied when we are seeing so many threats around the world. But they are raising a valid point, which is that restoring trust in this agency isn't something that's going to happen overnight. It requires a diligent leadership that acknowledges the problems that they've had, which I just don't think Christopher Wray has, and I don't think that this current leadership has either. That's going to be a big challenge for the next president.

And I hope that that president is willing to take on that challenge because it's something that's huge and important. We need to be able to trust the FBI. We can't just get rid of these institutions. I know because somebody's doing something good because we have not been having major attacks since 9-11. And now we have a five-alarm fire every day, though.

And they've been saying that over and over again. All right, Ben, I know you're pumped up to do your podcast, the Ben Dominic podcast. Thanks so much. Thanks. All right.

He's always great to talk to.

So are you? 1866-408-7669. Don't move. Brian, kill me, Joe. It's Brian Killmead.

The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmeade. He wouldn't have got off, not that I was on that jury. There's no question about it. I mean, he was guilty as hell. The forensic evidence, there's circumstantial evidence, and the manner in which the murders took place, it was clearly a crime of passion.

And when you look at some of the things that they had articulated about his past, his relationship with Nicole Brown-Simpson, some of the things that he had done to her, the Gloria Allreds and others obviously have spoken very eloquently about this over the years. It was clear that there was such a preponderance of evidence against him that he deserved to be in jail for the rest of his life at the very, the very least. But that wasn't the story. A lot of people in the black community back then were happy. After Rodney King, they said this is balance.

But OJ lived a tortured life. I think he lost his mind. He was a little deranged at the end. He obviously had multiple personalities, almost chopped his ex-wife's head off and a stranger at the same time. Obviously, he was a big star.

That was the big thing. He was likable to people that knew him, but nobody really knew him. Alan Dershowitz had his defense. He was part of the dream team. This is what he said last night: Cut 36.

Stephen A. is absolutely right. The LAPD was on trial. The predominantly black community and the jurors didn't trust the LAPD, and that's why it was so dangerous. For Van Adder to try to enhance the evidence by creating that bloody sock.

Because it played right into the prejudices, perhaps, of the jurors against the LAPD. Yeah, and I just want to get Kato Kalen in. I don't do was the bloody sock is that agreed upon that the bloody sock was concocted by the cops? Do you think that was good d did you follow that, Eric, by any chance? Did you follow the trial?

Yeah. I don't remember. Because I don't remember the glove.

Okay. Here's Kato Kalen. Last night. Cut 32. I think he's guilty.

I have that opinion, and I still believe that today. And I was listening to this show, and you sort of encapsulated the last 30 years, and I was going, Oh my, my, your monologue has just brought back so much to my feelings. I was it was wonderful, you know, not wonderful, but it was like I went back in time and I was thinking about that line you said about heaven and hell and believing it.

Well, you know, on his deathbed, I don't know if he said a penance or not, but I really believe he is guilty and if he made peace with God or not. I doubt it. I was watching somebody this morning that evidently was his former manager, but then spent years with him taping everything Adrian was doing. And this guy just wanted to party. He was going hanging hanging out, so I think he had lost his mind.

I think you have to compartmentalize considering what your life was. It's bad enough. If you're a murderer, you never had probably a great life, but then he gets worse in jail. Got it. But what if you were hanging out with the elite Hollywood legends, athlete, and star and broadcaster, and a really handsome guy doing movies?

And then all of a sudden, you have everything, and it all falls apart. And you look at the life you had, and the people that were friends with you that no longer know your name. Bob Costa said he went to visit him in prison and basically just said, you know, get a good attorney, find out what happened. Al Michaels used to be friends with him. Jim Gray used to be friends with him.

But, you know, when something like that happens, it ends the next day. But he lived another, what, 25 years afterwards? Brain kill me, Joe. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

Hi, everyone.

Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Meet Joe. I come to you from Midtown Manhattan, but we're heard around the country, around the world.

So glad you're here. Thanks for being with us all week long. What a consequential time to be lucky enough to have a show like this. And this hour, we're going to be joined by Josh Crash Hour, bringing us inside the political process on Capitol Hill. Man, is this it for Speaker Johnson?

And is Marjorie Taylor Greene to blame? Evidently, President Trump is not happy about it. And Garrett Ventry is going to be with us too. Garrett's a great guest. He's a founder and president of GRV Strategies, former senior advisor to Chuck Grassley.

He's worked for Elise Stefanik right now as well. And we'll get to him and we'll get to Josh in a moment. Uh let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. And then the Mueller report came out, and no collusion. And, you know, I think we sort of learned the sort of the story kind of disappeared. You know, despite our feelings about Trump, this is a story we should have sort of treated differently.

Yuri Berliner, NPR 25-year editor, coming out and talking about the anti-Trump bias. Yeah, he didn't vote for Trump and won't vote for Trump, but he blew up the whole newsroom and did the things we've been talking about.

Now that newsroom has blowback on Yuri Berliner, we'll discuss it. Number two. Our most immediate concern has been that individuals or small groups will draw some kind of twisted inspiration from the events in the Middle East. to carry out attacks here at home. That is Christopher Ray.

Get it together, guys. Terror challenges everywhere. Thanks to the Terror Den we repopulated. And as we left Afghanistan. And also, the distrust growing between Americans, Congress, and the FBI.

Meanwhile, a regional war looms as Iran prepares to directly hit Israel. Why I believe that won't happen. Number Can somebody explain to me in crayon eating terms why I make over three times the federal minimum wage and I cannot afford to live? And I do not want to hear the pull yourself up from your bootstraps, work ninety hours a week. We talked to Nick Sumners.

He works in the car industry. That's all he tells us. But he was on TikTok, frustrated that he cannot pay his bills. His ultimate undoing, Joe Biden, inflation. 60% of the people like Nick living paycheck to paycheck.

Joe Biden's economy has been costly for all of us and ultimately could lead to his undoing. And blaming Trump will not work. Especially when you said I took over a country where inflation was skyrocketing. Come on, that's just not true. Just like it's not true you're the first Biden to go to college because you would tell us about your grandfather was a college football player.

Does that ever add up? Josh Krashow joins us now, Fox News radio political analyst, editor-in-chief of the Jewish Insider. Josh, welcome back. Out of all the attacks on Trump, that's not going to work, inflation. No, no.

I mean, this is the issue that's haunting Biden's reelection campaign. You look at every survey, and even as much as Biden officials are trumpeting good economic news, it's the inflation that is really driving many Americans who are looking at the rising costs of grocery and gas and a lot of other fundamentals. You know, you can't spin that away. And, you know, I thought it was very interesting that this week Biden sort of. Realizing that interest rates are not going to go down because of rising inflation, hinted that they still might, or he was still trying to put some pressure on the Fed in that meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister to do so for the Rose Garden session with the Japanese Prime Minister.

That is wishful thinking, and it's a sign that we'll kind of. We're now at a point where people's perception of the economy is basically what you're going to see in November and how they vote. And it's not a good look. It's not a good perception for the president. Yeah, because the interest rate's going up, and by forgiving more student loans, it's only going to give the perception that we're willing to have a trillion dollars added to our debt every month.

That's what's happening with interest rates higher, and they could get higher again. You know, Larry Summer says we're going to see a tax, excuse me, not tax, but a An interest rate increase.

So, just to give people an idea at home, this is the stats. This is what was put out by the grocery industry. In 2021, bread was 29% less expensive. Flour was 24% less expensive. Spaghetti is now 8% more expensive.

Butter, 23%.

So milk, 12%. Overall, 26% increase in your grocery.

So if 60% of the people listening to us right now live paycheck to paycheck, I think this is really going to hit home more than any other 30-second ad. Don't you agree, Josh? Yeah, I mean, look at that, that that's what uh the the most impactful political developments are ones ones that affect an individual's bottom line. You know, a lot of the debates we talk about in politics, uh, people may may feel passionately about issues, but they're abstract. That that doesn't affect them day to day.

But when you when you go to the grocery store and you're paying twenty percent more for eggs than you did four years ago, you're paying you know, you you laid out the stats, Brian. You feel that on a daily basis, and it really affects your anger at sort of the government and the president.

So that is just a driving force in the president's low approval numbers. We've seen that ever since inflation jacked up in the first year or two of his presidency. And I think they were hoping that inflation was contained. They hoped that we're going into this 2024 election year, talking about how the economy is in good shape and inflation is under control. But we're seeing with the latest data, it's not under control.

And if anything, it's heading in the wrong direction at the worst possible time. It seems I want you to hear what Kevin Hearn said over in Oklahoma, Kud 8. I think also when you look at What's going on here, and we're at $35 trillion in debt, $34.6 trillion as of this morning, and growing. Too many people up here believe that debts deficits don't matter. Overspending doesn't matter.

The bloating of government doesn't matter. And I think it's important as a Republican conference that we've got to continue to bring hope to the American people. That's why it's so important that we take the Senate, keep the House, and get the White House. They're not going to do it if they blow up the speaker with Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's still thinking about doing it and seems to love talking to CNN about it, which is insane. But with the President, before I have you comment on that opportunity, as the Speaker goes down to talk to President Trump at 4:30 today, he's going to have a press conference.

Joe, I woke up today to find out that Joe Biden is forgiving another $7.48 billion in student loan debt.

So now we have a situation where billions is forgiven to certain people, and one of the people that the people that don't go to college. The ones that choose a vocational school or that paid off their loans, doesn't the President realize that those people are going to be as ticked off as the others are going to be happy?

Well, look, I I think this is just naked Purchasing a constituency. I mean, this is what you're seeing right now in our politics, and we've talked a lot about this, Brian, is that his big weak spot, Biden, is right now with young voters. College-educated people or 18 to 24-year-olds who have gone to college, maybe have these debts. And they're not in love with Biden for a whole lot of reasons. A lot of them ideological, but also just the same economic challenges that everyone is facing.

And he's seeing that he's performing worse among young voters than any Democrat I can remember in a long time. And this is just a naked political way to try to buy their votes, to try to do what he can within. And I don't know if this is constitutional because the Supreme Court has already weighed in on other similar measures that try to relieve a larger degree of student debt. But he's trying to basically buy off some of these younger voters that may go third party or even some of them looking to vote for Trump in the next elections.

So I think that's all that's all this is. politics And uh look I I'm but I'm also skeptical, Brian, that it that it war I mean, it it just drives the polarization. Even further, where yes, you may maybe you'll make some inroads with Gen Z voters that have these student debts, but there are a whole lot of other voters that don't have a college. The majority of Americans don't have a college degree. They're dealing with the inflation we're talking about.

They have debts in other spaces, medical debts. Other economic challenges, and they're looking at the government essentially buying off a certain constituency, causing inflation potentially, and hurting other groups that are also much, much, much, frankly, much more significant than those junk voters that are facing student tests.

So let's talk about the messaging on abortion. The president comes out earlier in the week, upset Lindsey Graham, but say, look, I want the states to decide. I'm pro-life, but let's let the states decide. A lot of people thought that was a good move. One day later, Arizona says, Yeah, when we were a territory, we had it right.

Zero weeks abortion. They tried to wheel it back. It didn't work. And now they're messaging that against Trump, saying, you're responsible.

Now, Trump's saying, yeah, I am responsible. But then they say, no, you're responsible for the overturn of Roe v. Wade.

So how's that being? I know this is a very tough question because we've never been down a road like this. But how does this play out to you?

Well, look, I I think it was actually a blunder for the Trump campaign to Basically, punt this all to the states and not actually state a a position on at least one.

So, are you with Lindsey Graham on this? Pick 15 out of 10. Lindsey Graham favors a federal 15-week abortion ban with exceptions, which I, you know, if you look at polls, that has some degree of public support, though I wonder how that would play out if it actually came to the floor in the Congress. But But but the problem with punting it to the states is that you're gonna see states like Arizona with the state Supreme Court, or you're going to see states that are much more conservative than Arizona take positions on abortion that are going to be hard, that are going to be. Hard to defend politically, and they're still going to fall on Trump's slap politically.

And I think it's better for any candidate to kind of outline where they stand on an issue, even in the broadest of senses, and say, Oh, yeah, let the states decide. Because ultimately, they're going to be states that are making, we saw in Alabama with IVF earlier this year. We were seeing this with Arizona. There are going to be states that are going to take positions that are going to be politically toxic for Trump. And I think he's put himself in a pretty, pretty.

pretty bad situation where now he's trying to lobby Republicans in Arizona and the state legislature to overturn the or at least p pass legislation to mitigate the the state court ruling, but it doesn't seem like they're very amenable to to listening to him right now. Uh lastly I want you to go to the I want to get your take on NPR.

So Yuri Berliner, the NPR editor for the last 25 years, has had it. He saw the biasnesses in his own newsroom, citing numerous times he'll never vote for Trump. But that wasn't the point. That's not his point. He says nobody's giving anyone a fair objective, whether it was the Hunter Biden laptop or whether it was the pandemic.

Anthony Fauci is always right.

Now they're encouraging different reporters to get involved in advocacies if it makes the world better.

So you could go to a fundraiser. You could go to a rally if it makes the world better. Here's Yuri Berliner, the NPR editor, and it's causing shockwaves throughout Washington. Cut 27. After a while we started Covering Trump in a way that that Like a lot of the legacy news organizations, that we were trying to damage his presidency to even find anything we could.

To harm him. And I think what we latched on to was Russia collusion, like a lot of news organizations, which was, as I write, sort of. Catnip, although it was just rumors and a lot of it based on pretty Shoddy. Documents or evidence. It wasn't really solid.

But I think it was compelling.

So that was compelling. And then when Adam Schiff was on over twenty five times talking about everything and nothing panned out, there was no walk back. There was no justification. There was no investigation of the story and how they got it wrong. What do you think about does he speaking for a lot of newsrooms?

Well, look, one of the most compelling parts of his testimony is that. the audience of NPR a a decade or two ago was Tilted left. You know, it was a little more liberal than certainly conservative, but it was still well in the American mainstream. And then the latest data of NPR's audience. Yeah.

skewed heavily, heavily left. And very white, white progressive left audience. And they've basically kind of become captive to that. It's kind of like their audience is now the squad, and they've been programming their news news programs to appeal to that narrow slice of America. It's a far-left slice of the country.

It doesn't appeal to a whole lot of people. They've lately led off a lot of workers. They've lost audience share over that same period of time. But it's in a direct result to what Uri was writing about, that they have sort of catered to a fringe of the audience at the expense of the mainstream. And NPR was, I mean, you know, everyone thought NPR, at least called cultural issues, always tilted a little bit to the left, but it was actually one of those situations.

Channels that actually did have a pretty bipartisan audience a couple decades ago. That's no longer the case, and you can see it. With the programs and the news choices they make. And he said, Look, we're trying to recruit all about diversity. He said, Fine.

You want to do diversity? Do fine. He goes, did anyone think about diversity of thought instead of ethnicity and sexuality and sexual preference? Did anyone say to themselves, what about somebody that doesn't agree with me? And that's what astounded him.

And now they have a new CEO, Catherine Mayer, who's been a leader in tech. She says, she does not have a news background. She says that could be an asset. He goes, I'm rooting for her. It's a tough job.

Her first rule could be simple enough. Don't tell people how to think. It could even be the new North Star.

So they taken a bunch of people out to lunch. Do you think this guy gets fired?

Well, one of the most remarkable things about the piece, Brian, is that he's a 25-year employee, a well-respected employee at National Public Radio, a business editor. And he's really, you know, he's a whistleblower. This is what you call someone who is really risking his job. As far as I know, he's still working at National Public Radio, but he was willing after all that time with the organization to be candid about some of the flaws and challenges that it faces.

So it's a really, you know, that's usually what we say. If any whistleblower comes forward to that regard in the media, they're usually praised and glorified for speaking hard truths. And unfortunately, when it comes to the media, when it comes to, you know, when it's a media institution like NPR, I don't think they're looking at him quite so favorably. Josh, fascinating time. Then we have the court case that starts on Monday with the former president of the United States going to be here Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Wednesdays off for six to eight weeks.

Incredible. Thanks so much, Josh. Thanks, Brian. And right now he's leading the post.

Well, how do you feel? Will this make him look better or worse? The verdict, if it's conviction, does it hurt him or does it make it look like he is further oppressed and that Joe Biden's behind it? After all, Matt Calangelo was in the Joe Biden Justice Department before he needed to leave to help resurrect this case. He's now leading it.

There's really no connection to Joe Biden? Back with your calls. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

We're certainly monitoring the situation closely. I don't have a crystal ball, and I'm not going to get into specific intelligence. I would just say that what you heard the president say, and as I highlighted in my topper, we are in close contact with the Israelis, to include today's phone call with Minister Gaunt, and that U.S. commitment to Israel's security against threats from Iran and its proxies is ironclad. Right, good.

At least something would be stating positive for Israel. They're not the bad guys. And our chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was in Israel on Thursday.

Something's going on. Whether they called it off or not, I'm not sure. David, you're in Oklahoma. Hey, David. Yes, hello.

What's on your mind? Yeah, I was listening to your radio show this morning here in Oklahoma, and you're welcome. And I heard about the guy from TikTok complaining about his wages. And I just wanted to say that, yeah, inflation is just insane right now. I worked in the oil field for almost 20 years as a Derrick hand, 11 years as a Derrick Han, my final 11 years.

And I was making over close to $160,000 a year. Wow. In 2017, I I got h hurt on the job. Uh I ended up I had I tore my labrum. I tore my rotator cuff.

Um I I ended up having um total of seven surgeries. Um my my bicep was detached. I had seven surgeries in my shoulders. Then, you know, through the course of that, you know, and not working, they found. Uh severe osteoarthritis.

Running out of time, David. What's your point? Uh inflation is not Going down anywhere. I was on disability. I have paperwork.

I'm a legal disability. I had to go back to work because the bills ain't getting covered at home, being on nearly $3,000 a month on. When Trump was president, you were making ends meet? Yeah, we were making ends meet. You know, we weren't getting ahead per se, but we were not sinking.

Right, and that's exactly what the indications are. It's up 10%, 5%, 7%, 8%. But then when you put all the groceries in a card, all of a sudden it is almost double. Back in a moment. Radio that makes you think.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. But it was so racially charged because of what had happened just before with Rodney King, but also just how black Americans feel about policing. It's not like O.J. Simpson was the leader of the civil rights movement of his era. You know, he wasn't a social justice leader, but he represented something for the black community in that moment, in that trial, particularly because there were two white people who had been killed and the history around how black people have been persecuted during slavery.

There were just so many layers. Wow, that was an interesting take over the sudden death of O.J. Simpson, Ashley Allison on CNN. That was the rationality, how everyone felt about race in the 90s, and maybe things are worse today. Let's get the perspective on what it means for the election with Garrett Ventry, founder and president of GRV Strategies and former senior advisor to Chuck Grassley, now doing work with a lot of potentially vice presidential candidates.

Garrett, welcome back. What's your take on her take? I mean, it's uh it's Really, uh, an interesting take, I suppose. I mean, I've not thought of it that way. Obviously, uh, you know, I think the OJ saga was very interesting watching.

You know, I didn't it was, you know, I was younger when this happened, obviously, but you know, going back and like seeing the white Bronco and all that stuff, it's very fascinating. But You know, I I think it is an interesting angle if you're probably an African American thinking about uh you know what was happening at that time, but that's not an angle I've ever really explored. Right. One thing I was struck by what happened this week was President Trump going into the Chick-fil-A. All black workers.

And I don't know if he knew what he was going to get. Sure. You tell me. I think it seems unscripted besides the security sweep. And he basically had a bunch of people that wanted to see him, and then one woman in particular turns out to be a teacher with the historically black colleges.

And so I don't care what anyone says, what they tell me. I gave her a big bunch, come over here and give me a hug. From a political standpoint, What does that mean to you? I mean, the really interesting thing here is Donald Trump is doing very well with the African-American vote. You're talking about, I mean, he's pulling at some polls and Fox polling and New York Times pulling at over 20 percent.

So there's clearly a shift there. Was it 12, right, last year? Yeah, it's at 12, and it's been up to 20 at some point. But for a Republican to get double digits in the African American vote, if that does happen, I mean, Joe Biden essentially, I don't know where he gets those votes from then, right?

So it's definitely impressive here. And I think you're seeing there's a couple reasons why I think African American voters are deeply dissatisfied with the economy. I also think there's a crime aspect here. A lot of the weak on crime stuff we've seen in New York City, cashless bowel, those type of things. And then I do think some of the unprecedented indictments of Donald Trump do help him with the African American community.

And he's said so as much. I think they've, you know, they feel and they see this as political, and a lot of them have felt that in their own lives, some of them. Maybe. But like when it's all said and done, to get Mitt Romney at eight.

So the president got into the former president got into double figures last time, and if he's over 20 this time, but from if you're working for Trump. And he says to you. Uh Gary, I need to pull over. But Cisco's, you know, you know, I'm hungry.

So why don't you just come over? Why don't we sort of some fast food? You know, we've done it before and the way. Would you have said to him as present, This could go wrong? You know, you're going into a heavily urban environment where some of these people have been told horrible things about it.

So he went in anyway, and it worked out. I think it's the brilliance of it, too, that he's done these things, whether it's these, like these retail stops have been really successful for him. And you've seen this at, you know, UFC has been very successful. You see him watching.

Well, he knows what he's getting there. He knows what he's getting there. I saw him, you know, I was there in Vegas when the president was there for a fight a couple months back and just erupts. You see that, and you've seen this over and over again with these retail stops that he's having, traditionally like areas that wouldn't go for a Republican.

So it does show there's a lot of quiet support for Donald Trump, and a lot of people are just dissatisfied with Biden. But it's a brilliant political move by President Trump, and there is this appeal he has when people do meet him. He is larger than life, and it kind of takes away some of the things that the media have maybe said about him when people meet him and they find out he's a regular energetic guy. What does it tell you that CNN is now at the border with a drone and a reporter? And what does it mean to you that Mayorka says, oh, yeah, we are in a crisis.

And what does it mean to you that the majority of Hispanic Americans now want a wall? It's absolutely right. Think about how far the mind-blowing from 2015 is. Absolutely remarkable, right? And I think what you're seeing here is that this is, they all realize this is a major issue.

Immigration is the number one issue to voters right now. It's not abortion. It's not the economy, although the economy is up. Inflation is big. And inflation is big.

But the immigration and gallup polling and other polls I've seen, that's kind of the big issue here. And so it's interesting to see these people like Majorkis, who literally created this crisis by ending Title 42, stopping construction on the border wall, which you mentioned now is popular with Hispanic voters, getting back and catch and release. And you've seen 9 million people come here illegally under Joe Biden that we know of. And so it's clearly a crisis when CNN is down there with a drone. But they have really, they mocked Republicans for years when we talked about we need borders.

They mock Fox. Correct. They mock you guys for saying that. And it turns out you do. You have people like known terrorists trying to come here.

And have been here in our country, crossing the border illegally. And Gary, too, from, I mean, we're in New York, and you may feel. Do you live here? Yeah. So, when you find out that they're in Yonkers fighting with cops in the lobby, and then the woman follows the guy who was arrested, and then she gets arrested too, they get let go.

So, they get the Ramada in for free, they get three meals for free, they get in here for free, they beat the whole system and they brawl in the lobby. When the cops show up, they fight the cops, and the Venezuelans that beat up the two cops. And then in the CVS uptown on the east side, there's a robbery going on. The cops show up and they fight the cops, and they get arrested, and five of them, four of the five, get let out the same day.

So, what does that do? When people talk about crime and illegal immigrants coming here, they're not sending us their best. This underlines it. It's hard to game plan against that. No, absolutely.

And I think the thing here is if you take a step back, people who come here legally and love America and want to be part of our system. That's what America's been made of for many years, coming here legally, being part of it, understanding the Constitution, understanding the values that we have. And that's been great for our society. What you have here is you have people with complete disregard for our laws, and you have people with disregard for law enforcement. And when you're putting you know, crime's always going to happen, you're never going to be able to get rid of crime completely.

But a lot of this is intentional when you're talking about cashless bail and just letting these people back on the street when they're dangerous. It's ridiculous that the Democrats can't condemn it. It's wild to me. You know, I say it over and over again because I don't want people to forget it. There's a 76-year-old CFO of the Trump organization at Rikers Island, but we can't get a Venezuelan fighting a cop.

He gets out with zero cash bail. It's absolutely ridiculous. This is the second stint, by the way, for the 76-year-old who backed up that Donald Trump had overinflated the size of his penthouse. If we don't get those people off the street, we're never going to be safe. Those 76-year-old accountants, they're the worst.

It's horrible. Imagine them in the subways. It would be really rough. It's unsupervised. It would be incredible.

So I want to talk about what's happening in the House. Embarrassing again for Speaker Johnson. He puts on the floor a renewal of the FISA Act with amendments and with changes from 2018. He gets 19 Republicans who vote against it. They want to do Ukraine aid.

He thinks we need it. I think we need it. But he's not going to get any trade-off of border.

So Marjorie Taylor Greene says, if you do this, I'm going to make a run at you. I'm going to call for your ouster. He's going to go meet with the president today at 4.30. Bring us inside the Republican majority. Yeah, I mean, it's flimsy right now, right?

You're talking about, you know, in 2022, we thought there was going to be this massive red wave. We're going to have 25, 30 seat majority. That obviously didn't happen. Then you've had things like George Santos getting expelled, Ken Buck and Mike Gallagher leaving Congress early, and the majority is very slim right now. And it's a tough job.

Do me the speaker's tough job to begin with, right? You've got to corral, you know, over 218 members to agree on something, right? That's tough to do. You can barely get five people to agree. Like, if we went around here, where do you want to go to lunch?

You're going to get five different answers.

So imagine that with 218 members.

So that's tough. There. And then the other thing is, you have this influence of Donald Trump over the party here. And you're seeing this with Speaker Johnson going down to Mar-a-Lago, obviously, here, to talk about an issue that President Trump cares about in election integrity. And the other part is Trump is dictating a lot of this policy, too.

He's anti-Ukraine funding, and he came out against FISA in its original state. And so those things drive these members and give them cover. And the slimmer the majority you have, the more power individual members have, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Matt Gates. Where if you had a 20 or 30 person majority, a lot of times it's just noise. But right now, they actually have power because they can do things with a small majority.

But having said that, Ned Scalosa negotiated with a similar and they seem to be on the same page, even the crazy squad. Sure. So she found a way to do that. And having said that, now you have an inexperienced speaker, great intellect, great mind, wonderful disposition, but he does not know how to corral the troops. He does not know how to work the corner.

And you had a guy that knew how to do that. That in Kevin McCarthy. Would the Republicans actually go down that road again? Would Marjorie Taylor Greene bluffing? I don't know.

It's a great question. She obviously has demands, and she feels like she's representing her constituents on those demands.

So, you know, one understands that. I don't think there's much of an appetite, though, for House Republicans to have another nasty speakership battle. And I think you're not seeing a ton of people go that route right now, even though there might be disagreement with the speaker on a number of issues right now. He's also in an impossible situation. You're talking about you have to do things like, you know, you've got to do things on FISA, you've got to do things on funding the government.

And so he's in an impossible job here. And so it's going to be tough with a slow majority here, whoever is in that job. The question is, if you get rid of Johnson, right? You get rid of him. Who's next?

Who can do the job like that? And the question is: there really isn't. He was the guy who could get to 218. That the conference was like, we like him. They didn't want Jordan.

They didn't want Emmer. They didn't want Scalise. Johnson was the acceptable option for everybody. They all voted for him.

So here's what Kimberly Strassel, the Wall Street Journal, said: Cut 31. The Trump team, and I think it's been a little slow to get to this understanding, is beginning to realize that having a House caucus, the only branch of government Republicans run at the moment, look like it's in perpetual and continual disarray, unable to lead or get anything done, is not exactly a great advertisement when you are headed into a presidential election arguing that you should be giving the White House as well and the Senate. And so there's this key thing coming up. This is, I think, a message from Trump potentially, at least quietly, to some of these critics of Johnson to give him some breathing room. We'll see.

So that's what I'm wondering. If that meeting today at 4:30 is supposed to be about election integrity, if they're going to have a bigger conversation. And maybe Johnson says, listen. You got to give me a heads up if you're going to blow up FISA the day before. And today, they're supposed to vote on it at 8:30, a two-year deal.

And there have been reforms to it, too. Yeah. And it just passed a, you know, it passed a rule.

So we'll see if it actually, you know.

So it could be voted on. Yeah, yeah. I think they'll end up getting there. My, you know. The speaker has a good relationship with President Trump.

President Trump seems to like the Speaker a lot. One of the things he didn't like about Kevin McCarthy is he dragged his feet and didn't endorse him, and Speaker Johnson came out and endorsed him, and the president appreciates loyalty, obviously, as you know. And so I think he likes that about him. And I think Speaker Johnson is a conservative deep down. He's dealing with issues, though, with a slim majority.

I do think this serves the greater purpose. It shows the power of Trump, right? You're talking about the one guy who can give you cover on these types of issues is Donald Trump. You've seen it on abortion, and you're seeing it now here with Speaker Johnson. Garrett Ventry here.

And Gary, you know what it is, and I think this is a brilliant analogy. You ready for it? If you are a great player, it doesn't mean you're a great coach.

So he's a very good delegate, does a good job. He's a very smart intellectual, understands the Constitution, but it doesn't mean you're going to be a great coach. And as a Speaker, no one cares how smart you are. How street smart can you be to be able to find out what the hot buttons are for these people? Like one thing Kevin McCarthy said to me on One Nation last week is.

You got to talk to Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's a smart person. She bumps me down. You don't have to. You have to deal with her because she's into it.

She's aggressive.

So. If you put something out there without talking to her first, she's going to end up blowing up. You have to understand what the volatile players are like. Maybe you got to give them some more attention. But KC, remember, she was for McCarthy.

She was not for his ouster. Right. Yeah, I think there's a couple of things here. Most members, you saw this with Jim Jordan in 2018, too. McCarthy made that alliance with him, which was very smart.

Remember, him and Jordan used to be like fun against him. They were strong allies. And you saw the same thing with MTG. I do think he was smart for him to meet with her recently, which he did. And a lot of these members, they want a seat at the table and they want their voice to be heard.

And they're used to like leadership trying to ram things down their throat that they don't like, generally speaking.

So I do think Speaker Johnson's done a better job with that lately here, reaching out to Marjorie Taylor Greene, reaching out to some of these other members here. And again, you're talking about doing the job with a one or two seat majority right now, basically. It's a very tough job to do. I do think what a lot of members do like about Speaker Johnson is they see him as an honest broker. They do.

They don't think he's lying to them. And, you know, I think they think. He's doing the best job with a very slim majority right now. And they do like that, you know, a lot of these more MAGA members do appreciate that he is pro-Trump. And when we come back, the chances that they hold on to the House, because people say that ship has sailed.

But is it really? And believe it or not, when it comes to retirements, more Dems have retired than Republicans. You listen to Brian Kill Me Chow. A few more minutes with Garrett Ventry when we return. Don't move.

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Few more minutes with Garrett Ventry. And the big question is: with this camp chaos that the Republicans have put together, ousting their speaker, the the slow walking of the impeachment of Of Joe Biden, the inquiry. I like what it's resulted, but I don't understand the dormant stages, the Majorca situation, and the lack of accomplishment. Could the Republicans Actually, still retain the house. Garrett, what do you think?

Yeah, I mean, I think it's possible, or again, like this is all going to come down to California and New York, right? That's where a lot of these Biden districts are. You know, those members, I think that There's two things here. Those members have to be able to Kind of run their own race here, but I do think Trump does help us. Without the top of the ticket.

Correct. But I do think Trump. Is a net positive, even in 2020, right, when you had. You know, we didn't do as well in the Senate, but we picked up 15 seats in the House in 2020, even though the President wasn't able to get over the finish line in 2020. We picked up 15 seats.

He's a net positive generally for Republicans when he's on the ballot. And so I think that is helpful to them. I do think it's going to come down to they have good issues on border, on the crime, on the economy. They need to stick to those. And House Republicans have passed some things that obviously Senate Democrats don't want to take up, like H.R.

2, a very strong border provision that would secure the border. They've went after some of the IRS, 87,000 IRS agents that's deeply unpopular. They've passed that. A lot of it's just Schumer doesn't want to take up some of the things they actually have been able to accomplish.

So that's part of it here. And so I think for them, they're going to have to, you know, Trump's a net positive. You've got to be able to run a race that actually works in your district. And the biggest part of this is like. Do you do your constituent service as well?

Right. People who serve their constituents well usually do survive. Those that don't have a tougher time.

Well, we'll see. I guess we'll see what's going to happen there. Trump still thinks he's got designs on New York, and he says I might have a Madison Square Garden event. Would you encourage him to go into urban environments? Yeah.

Do you think, and even though John McCain style combat, you know, McCain used to go into these areas and used to hear people tell what a bad, how bad Republicans were and that they lied about the war. And he liked that. I mean, do you think engaging Trump in a debate, do you think that makes could make the president look vulnerable, the former president? Yeah, I don't think so. I think that, again, I think one of his biggest strengths is like when people meet him, they generally like him.

They do. Like, even if they have this prescription, you know. I should say the regular average person. They have these preconceived notions of what they've heard in media, and then they meet him and they find out he's a really energetic, interesting character, right? And so I do think for him, you are seeing popularity among the black vote.

And I think doing rallies, whether it's in New York City, in Philadelphia, in Chicago, and the inner cities, I think that is helpful because these people, this group of voters, the African-American vote, is very gettable for Republicans. We're not going to win it, but you could get, you could see a scenario where he gets 15 or 20% of the vote. Wow. And Elise Stefanik is somebody you're working with? Yes.

So do you believe that she is on the president's shortlist for a running mate? That is what the public, I know about as much as the public does on that. It's the public's, you know, they've seen reporting in the media where that seems to be the case here. And I think she's commented publicly and saying that obviously would be an honor for her. I'm obviously very biased and think she would be very good for a number of reasons.

What are her qualities that stand out? I think there's a couple. Number one is I think she, for President Trump, she's someone who's very loyal and has been a chief defender of the president. I think that's point one. I think number two, she can raise a lot of money.

She just raised $7 million as a House member this quarter. That's a big deal. I think three is she understands how Capitol Hill is and how to navigate that when President Trump's trying to do his agenda. And number four, I think she's been able to go into mainstream media like NBC and CNN to defend the president's agenda in a strong way that not many people can do. All right, Garabenter, that's a strong case.

I thought about it once or twice. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. Hi, everyone.

Thanks so much for being here. Brian Killmee Chow. This hour is going to be great. Finishing out strong. The great Shannon Breeding back from vacation.

Congressman Dan Crenshaw, Texas. A lot going on in the House today. We could have a vote on extending Pfizer with some reforms. 7:02. And then the Speaker of the House at 4:30, having a joint press conference with President Trump and Mar-a-Lago.

So impactful. I think Trump realizes having the House in chaos, not good for him, not good for his party. He's trying to get everybody on the same page. If he does win and loses the House, his life is a lot more difficult. Plus, he likes.

Johnson.

So, my suggestion is, Mr. President, Mr. President, if you are listening, talk to Marjorie Taylor Greene. Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. And then the Mueller report came out, and no collusion. And, you know, I think we sort of learned the sort of the story kind of disappeared. You know, despite our feelings about Trump, this is a story we should have sort of treated differently.

You think so? I'm fascinated by this story. Out of all the stories this week, this has just got me. Yuri Berliner, he's a 25-year veteran NPR editor, and he just talks about how severe bias at his organization and backlash since he came forward and wrote about it and went on Barry Weiss's podcast. What does it mean for NPR?

And how many other newsrooms are exactly like he described, Trump haters. Number two. Our most immediate concern has been that individuals or small groups will draw some kind of twisted inspiration from the events in the Middle East. To carry out attacks here at home.

Well, that would bother me too, didn't you? Get it together, guys. Terror challenges everywhere thanks to the terror den we repopulated when we left Afghanistan. As the distrust grows between Americans, Congress, and the FBI, meanwhile, a regional war looms versus Iran as they prepare to hit Israel. They say, will they have the guts to do it?

Because they'll get hit back. Number one. Can somebody explain to me in crayon eating terms why I make over three times the federal minimum wage and I cannot afford to live? And I do not want to hear the pull yourself up from your bootstraps, work ninety hours a week. Guy cracks me up.

Nick Summers, 20 years old, didn't go to college and working double minimum wage and can't make ends meet. His ultimate undoing will be inflation and people like Nick. I'm talking about President Biden. 60% of this country living paycheck to paycheck and prices rising steady since he got the job. This economy could cost him.

And blaming Trump, well, that dog won't hunt because the numbers don't lie. When Trump left, inflation was 1.4%. With me right now to discuss this, a woman who doesn't do her own shopping, that's why she has a domestic staff. But she does understand when the butlers come home and the maids report to her that prices are going up at the supermarket. Is that correct, Shannon Bremer, Fox News Sunday?

If that were true. I do like to use me some Instacart now and then.

So somebody is technically running out to get me some things sometimes. I'm very appreciative, and I'm a good tipper.

So I was just seeing some of this. These are hard numbers. I mean, here we are three years in. Bread is 29% more expensive. Eggs is 104% more expensive.

Milk, 12% more expensive. Overall, groceries are up 26%.

So this means a lot. President Biden said, Well, it was skyrocketing when I took over. Shannon Bream, we got a politi fact, even says that's not close to true. Right. And they've been calling him out on a number of things when it comes to claims he makes about the economy and the deficit and job creation and all that kind of thing.

So this isn't just, you know, conservatives questioning what he's saying. These are these supposedly neutral and I would argue in some cases left-leaning outlets that are saying it's not true. You've got Ron Klain, the former White House chief of the staff out there saying, you know, quit going out and talking about your bridges and infrastructure and stuff when people know their real-time reality check every day when they go to buy eggs and milk and fill up their gas tanks, they know the reality of what's actually going on.

So, I mean, I felt like this week with Edward Lawrence, when he was engaging with Corrine Jean-Pierre at the White House, You're not getting a realistic look at what's going on. If they're going to tell us things are skyrocketing them, they want to blame Ukraine and Russia. There were a lot of these things that were already happening on President Biden's watch.

So I feel like for a lot of voters who, the polling shows they are not buying it on the economy, It would probably go a long way to say, like, you know what, there have been problems, and we acknowledge that this has happened on our watch, but here's how we're going to turn it around. Not say you're all crazy and this didn't actually happen.

So I looked at Edward Lawrence's exchange, but KJP said nothing. And I go, I'm not going to pull this because she doesn't even answer the question. The questions are great, but she might as well be talking about the chances of the Rangers winning the Stanley Cup. It has nothing to do with the question. But here's what Steve Scalise said, the congressman from Louisiana, cut seven.

You watched the State of the Union. What did Joe Biden talk about? When you shave off all the angry, divisive rhetoric, which was most of what he said, he talked about raising more taxes on hardworking families. Families are sick of the increased spending and increased taxes that are crushing their chance to get the American dream. And so House Republicans with that one vote majority are the only thing standing in the way of those higher taxes, that higher inflation that Joe Biden wants to impose upon those families.

And the winning of this election will decide if the Trump tax cuts continue. And they have been bringing in a lot of revenue prior to the pandemic. I talked to Larry Kudlow and these guys, they were convinced this deficit was going down without the China virus. Yeah, I mean, if things had continued to play out the way that they were, if they stayed on track, I mean, every indication was that was going to be true.

So, like, you know, Corinne John Pierre, when she was engaging with Edward, kept saying, like, well, there was a pandemic.

Well, yeah, that pandemic was happening under President Trump, too. And still during that time, inflation was held pretty steady for about 11 months at that point.

So they can blame, you know, all kinds of things looking backwards. But what they need to do is make an argument about the present and looking forward because people know what their everyday situation is. And how are you going to change that? You've had three years, and most people would say in our polling, New York Times polling, all the polling out there that things have only gotten worse for them. And also, there's a pessimism about the future.

The polling also shows that people think things are not getting better, that they're going to get worse before there's any chance for them to get better. And that's a tough pill to swallow for the current commander in chief in an election year. Right. I want to talk about NPR, if I can. Yuri Berliner, do you know him?

I don't. I don't. It seems like somebody you would like.

So he's an editor I didn't know about, but he just talked about the newsroom that he saw and the environment since Trump won the election. He doesn't recognize his organization. Cut 26. I think like every newsroom, every legacy media newsroom, we were shocked Disturbed, distraught, really troubled. We assumed Hillary Clinton was going to win and.

And she didn't, and it was really an unsettling experience. But I also think to me it revealed that we didn't really understand a lot of what was going on in America, that we were out of touch. And it got worse, got 27. After a while we started. Covering Trump In a way that, like a lot of the legacy news organizations, that we were trying to damage his presidency, to even find anything we could.

To harm him. And I think what we latched on to was Russia collusion. And they talked about interviewing Adam Schiff 25 times and just taking him at his word. And when it collapsed, they never adjusted it. This got so bad.

So this week, he publishes a column in the free press and goes on with Barry Weiss. And basically, Shannon, how I feel, it was like everything that we've been talking about, how astounded we were and how unfair and misconstrued some of President Trump's statements are. As unorthodox as he is, they were just taking everything that was going on and twisting it. And every time he'd get something going, there'd be some element of the Russian hoax that would pop up. And then when it turned out there was nothing there, nobody felt like it was necessary to adjust it because Trump was so awful.

So my question is: how many newsrooms are reading this? And how many Uri Berliners who don't vote for Trump are just outraged and saying, that's not why I got in this business?

Well listen, I Was stunned at the level of transparency for him because if you've worked in different newsrooms, which I have over the years, I mean, I've been at Fox, it's been a blessing almost 17 years, but I have worked in other newsrooms. And you find out very quickly that a lot of folks are on the same page and it's definitely left of center.

So, those are conversations that I've been around many times where people aren't trying to hide or soften or camouflage in any way how they really feel about a particular president or a leader or an election. And so, I think we've all seen it if you've worked at different places. I was just surprised that he was so boldly open about it. But I do think we've seen over the last few years that a lot of newsrooms and places have gone public with this. They stopped acting like journalists and they've gone to full-on advocacy.

So, they're not necessarily hiding it. But there are some organizations that put themselves out there as news organizations that are neutral. And I believe these are the kind of conversations that happen in those newsrooms. I've seen that myself. It's been a long time since I've been.

Been anywhere but Fox, but I've witnessed it. You probably have too. $3 million they get from the federal government, but $90 million from local stations. If Trump wins, he's going to go for that. My hope is, I know a lot of people that listen to it, I love the international stories when I get to it.

Never been part of my daily life like some people, but I do appreciate the reach. He did his own poll: 87 registered Democrats, no registered Republicans.

So yesterday there was some blowback. And Edith Chapin, who's an NPR editor-in-chief, said this in an email to staff: We're proud to stand behind the exceptional work what our desks and shows to do to cover a wide range of challenging stories. We believe that inclusion among our staff and our sourcing and our overall coverage is critical to telling the nuanced stories of this country and our world.

Now, they didn't say what he said wasn't true. What his point was: you wanted to hire for diversity. How about diversity of thought and not of skin color, ethnicity, and sexual preference? And that's coming from a guy that's never going to vote for Donald Trump. These are the Types of things I hold on to, Shannon, because I want to get things back to normal.

I want to go back to, okay, he did this good, he did this bad, as opposed to he does everything bad.

Well, in I would think that if you're a news organization, you would appreciate the differences of people from different places, different thoughts, different schools. You know, so you're going to get more of a read on people. Then you won't be so shocked when things happen like President Trump wins in 2016. You wouldn't be completely taken by surprise from that because you would have heard from people who are from different places and have different families and have different viewpoints on the world. When everything is monolithic in a newsroom, ideologically, you are going to miss stories.

You're going to miss trends. You are going to miss things that you'd be a better news organization if you had more diversity of thought. In your newsroom.

So, Shannon, what do Joe Gini, everything I just told you and how much I've we've gone out of the way to cover, how does that affect your Sunday show, Fox News Sunday?

Well, it is going to be a plethora of topics, of guests. Of course, what will happen first is Saturday night watching your show to watch my show. Senator John Kennedy, who never leaves you wondering how he feels about something, is going to be with us. We also are going to have one of President Trump's attorneys as he goes in that first criminal trial, jury selection starting there Monday in New York City. He'll be with us to talk through that and also preview the Supreme Court immunity case.

And I hate to tell you this, but the Democrat who was supposed to be on our show just flaked.

So we are rebooking, as often happens, on Friday afternoon. Was it President Biden? No. No. But you know how it is with guests.

Like, you don't ever want to announce them until they're 100,000% locked in. And so we just had a little hiccup, but, you know, we are always fair and balanced. And so we will work around the clock till we get a Democrat to join us at the table. You're nothing but resilient. Do you want to ask me who I'm having on my show?

I would love to. I already know because I saw your promo, but please tell me again. Glenn Greenwald's going to be on. Marco Rubio is going to be with us. Rick Predo is going to be here, CIA guy.

I'm also going to have Kennedy and a special interview with a guy that looks great in a jean shirt. Do you know what I'm talking about? Jamie Jimmy Phela? Micro. Oh, even better.

Allison, do you know, does Jimmy Phil look good in a jean shirt? Because I see him in like cowboy shirts and. I just want to make a segment on the breakup of the marriage of the Golden Bachelor, who's only been married three months. Wait a second. The Golden Bachelor was married?

They got married in January. It was a big national T V special and they just announced they're getting divorced. I can't keep up with these people. That something like as natural as a bachelor contest that results in a quick marriage would end up in divorce. People in their 70s should know what they're doing.

They said they want to get married quickly because, you know, time was ticking. But I guess now they want to get divorced quickly because time is ticking. They want to go look for option C. I don't know. I just know you're going to handle it with respect and depth.

Should I cancel Rubio? And just get on somebody dating in their 70s? About the Golden Bachelor. All right, don't care. Marriage and divorce.

You don't care. But change subject. See, my news instinct was to get somebody more appropriate. Your news instinct is to take the things you're interested in and ask them, ask it, doesn't matter who it is. No, because I feel like a good, smart guest is going to be able to handle any topic.

Right. Especially if it is there a Hispanic. But one of them Hispanic? Uh not that I know of. Oh, then forget it.

But one of my favorite contestants on this Golden Bachelor was Hispanic. She was beautiful, and maybe he just picked the wrong person. I don't know. Right. Can I work on this when I'm off the air?

Or do I have to finish this directly? See if you need any talking points or help. Thank you. Shannon Bree, welcome back. Happy Saturday.

You got it. Coming up at the bottom of the yard, Dan Crenshaw. Coming up next to you. I see you up there 1-866-408-7669. Don't move.

Educating, entertaining, enlightening. You're with Brian Kilmead. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. I want you to acknowledge that the open border policy makes us more insecure than strong.

So I want to know what your discussions have been with the President. Have you been able to go into his office and say, boss, this open border policy is a galactically stupid policy from a national security perspective? Have you had that conversation? If so, what did that look like? What has been the response?

And how are we shaping this to make us more secure in the future?

Well, I'm not going to get into specific conversations with people. I've been consistent in my message externally and internally about my concerns about the threats that are from the FBI's perspective that emanate from the border. Hmm.

So that's what drives people nuts. Just to say, I went to the President and I expressed to him how strong I believe we need to reinforce the border. That's what Republicans get upset about. Just why are you playing politics? But his pushback would be it is politics.

If I go in and said I told the President you better seal the border. For the longest time, the President was saying the border is sealed, and Mayorkas was saying it is not a crisis.

So he feels as though he concerned himself politically. Robert Mueller, I didn't see lighting people up, but you would we the way you do it is saying through the southern border, I'm most concerned about this, this and this. Is the border closed? Not that I can tell. You're not playing politics by answering like that.

Steve, WABC in Brooklyn, New York. Hi, yes, ma Well I What I discussed with people of the left wing. And they say to me, why would these people like the President, why do they want to have criminal elements come in fr across the Mexican border? Why do they want to release all the prisoners from Rikers Island? I say it's very simple.

Politics and politicians attract a criminal element because of power, influence, money. And whether it's Yeah. or Andrew Cuomo, or Tish James, or Alexandria Cortez, or our two recent catastrophes of mayors, De Blasio and now Eric Adams. Every one of them has criminal thinking in their head, and they realize they could be ending up in their own jails.

So they better there's the old saying that misery loves company, well, criminality loves company. I remember. I there could be incompetence too, and also I think it's something even more direct. I know that the getting illegal aliens to vote is not going to happen. But because there's going to have to be a pathway, and right now the Republicans wouldn't start off at a pathway, but the census is.

putting people into different cities and different states ups that congressional leadership and congressional seats. And then if you get that in a red or blue, that helps you tilt a very tight house.

So even if Democrats take the house, it's only going to be about five seats, ten seats. And the Republicans, same thing. Because that's the new situation there with the gerrymandering. Unless you bring in 7 million people that don't belong here. 7 million.

Because evidently they count in the census, even though Trump tried to stop that. Listen, we come back. Dan Crenshaw, he's speaking on the House floor right now. He wants to renew Pfizer with changes. He's going to be joining us now to see if a vote is imminent.

If he's a little late, I'm taking some of your calls. Thanks so much for being here. And a big announcement. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Iran doesn't want any escalation of this that would lead to a war with Israel or the United States. That has been the fact from the beginning of the war in Gaza when they operationalized all of their proxies to join in that effort that Hamas started. And this administration has never recognized that Iran's vulnerability is that they do not want war with the United States or Israel. If you want to shut down these proxies, take out the IRGC assets in Iran because Iran does not want to escalate. You can use that as leverage against them.

They have a weak air force, they have a weak navy. Iran knows that war with them would destroy their regime economically, and also they would likely lose it.

So, General Jack Keene puts it in perspective. He does the Institute for the Study of War. He looks at armaments. He looks at thresholds. He looks at the quality of fighting forces.

That's why he's so invaluable in Ukraine and now in Gaza. And he's outraged, outraged that we're banning the IDF. Why? Because civilians are dying, and that's sad. But understand who's putting them in front.

It is hard. Hamas, why the president doesn't mention that? And a lot of the stuff that we are hearing front and center at press conference with the Japanese prime minister, we used to get behind closed doors, but behind closed doors, President Biden is upset with the prime minister Netanyahu, thinks he'd be more careful about civilian casualties. But now it's front and center. And what you have to understand, and I know you do, is that when you come out there and show a fracture between two allies, Hamas has no reason to do a deal.

Do you know after a conversation, the whole IDF pulled out of the South?

Now they said it was to rest and refit. But because of that, Hamas immediately went back into the South and they fired some rockets out of the South.

So why would Hamas feel as though they got to negotiate shoulder to shoulder and face to face with the IDF, with Qatar, in Qatar, if they're already getting what they want? No, I don't want any raid of of Rafa of Rafa.

Well, if I'm Hamas, I feel great about that. I'll relax, have a big lunch, might even have an outdoor picnic. Here's more from Jack Keene, Cut Twenty Two. All the covert successful operations that Israel has done, killing nuclear scientists, military leaders inside Iran, blowing up the centrifuges in one of their major nuclear enterprise sites at Natans in 2020. Iran never responded to any of that.

And that's that's the reality of this. They've always been very measured when they're dealing with Israel, and they're likely to be here. They don't have much choice. They're gonna have to do something in terms of uh an attack. The timing of it and any of us can speculate that wh when that's gonna happen.

I I don't know because they told us it was going to happen as early as last night. They shut down the airspace over Iran. And Germany have stopped Germany is the only Western country, I believe, flying into Tehran. They stopped it.

So something was going on, and then maybe they backed off. Also, the US has made it clear we got your back. And other people say that we might have made it clear, you know, have at it if you need to. I'm not going to stop you, which would be insanity. While Ukraine runs out of weapons too.

So General Jack Cain says, listen, they got vulnerabilities. They know it. You know something else I was reading over in the Jerusalem Post? They were having the militants were shooting at their Revolutionary Guard. They're trying to take over their bases.

This has nothing to do with us. This is because it's such an unpopular, oppressive government. And this is a highly educated population. They want their quality of life back. And they can't get it since 1979.

But what bothers me most, and this is what I'm going to have this theme on One Nation this weekend. Is that the way we abandon allies? Afghanistan, whatever you think. I know there were some red-on-green shootings, and there were some people there pretended to be part of the army, and they ended up killing our guys, and it's horrific. But for the most part, we gave a generation a chance at freedom to a degree, women a chance to populate.

We trained an army of 100,000, some of which had no choice but to flip. The others didn't show the courage we needed. But we showed people the way for 20 years, and we show we wouldn't abandon them. Then we leave. Don't even tell NATO.

Then, when it comes to Israel, we're there in the beginning, but when times get tough, we hit the road. And Ukraine. I blame mostly Republicans and the lack of communication from this White House. They never talk about the mission. They never talk about completion.

They never talk about the value. They never have even surrogates sit down and explain to the American people what's happening, go through a series of town halls, talk about what Mark Thiessen wrote about, and that's how our weapons are being replenished with modern things as we sell them or give them to Ukraine.

So all those things together, an abandoning of our allies, tells our enemies we can be beat. And it's their time to unify, and that they're winning, and that maybe we have an opportunity.

So want to take a break? Oh, all right, good.

So Congressman Crencha, we understand, just left the floor.

So he's going to be joining us shortly on the other side. He was trying to get Pfizer passed. He's all for it. He wanted to see the reforms, too. The Texas Congressman, Navy SEAL, when we come back.

Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. Section 702 is indispensable in keeping Americans safe from a whole barrage of fast-moving foreign threats.

It is crucial to identifying terrorists in the homeland. Working with or inspired by a rogues' gallery of foreign terrorist organizations who have publicly called for attacks. against our country. Yeah. So that is some of my hair's on fire.

Please notice that Christopher was trying to present yesterday in front of Congress.

Well, people look and he says, don't cut $500 million from my budget at a time when I've ever been more challenged, and I need $702 renewed. What does that all mean? Congressman Dan Crenshaw joins us now. Just left the House floor trying to get this passed. He's the author of Fame, Blame, and The Raft of Shame.

Congressman, welcome back. Thanks, Brian. I forgot about that book. Thanks for mentioning it. Fortunately, it's my main one.

Appreciate it. How are you doing? Good, good.

So we just like to dig things up on your background.

So, Congressman, what is going on in the House 4? Could you guys get a vote on renewing 702, and should we?

Well, there will be a vote because the rule passed, and now we're in the middle of debate. I just was late calling you because I had to. speak on one of my amendments to the bill. My amendment would allow us to actually collect collect intelligence using FISA on the drug trafficking networks, trafficking fentanyls in the United States, including their Chinese counterparts. You might be shocked to believe shocked to hear this.

We actually don't legally have the right right now to even get a warrant to collect on the facilitators and Chinese production facilities. that are putting fentanyl into this country. And there's even Republicans who are against even that. I understand if you just kind of hate the FISA program, whatever, you know. I get it.

But you're against collecting on on the cartels. This is where we're at. This is this is this is not a this is not a reasonable conversation. Being had.

So I'm a little worried about it. I think my amendment will pass and then become law. And we need it to because, look, I'm not going to look any more parents in the eye when their kid died of a fentanyl overdose and tell them, ah, sorry, you know, just be. We wanted to give those cartel members and Chinese communists a few more rights, right? We didn't want to collect on them.

And so your son's dead. No, not saying that to them.

So what is your concern about the 702 program? How has it been abused before? It's definitely been abused.

So, everybody's the most famous abuse, of course, is the Carter Page crossfire hurricane thing.

Now, 702 wasn't abused there. They lied about the warrant process. I mean, they got a warrant and they lied. They used the steel dossier, they used Democrat and OPPO research to get it. That was, it was, it was, it was extremely unethical.

And the problem was, though, there weren't really laws in place to make that criminal.

So we've changed that. And the underlying bill that we're trying to get passed today. It makes 56 very, very serious and pretty extreme reforms to the program and specifically really affect the FBI.

So it would prevent crossfire hurricane from happening at all. A lot of this bill is directed at what happened to Trump and making sure that can never ever happen again. It decreases the number of FBI agents who can even access FISA queries. By 90%. And so the FBI was really pissed about this, by the way, that they do not like this.

But we told them, like, too bad. I mean, you had too many abuses. There were too many cases where somebody wanted to search the database for their ex-girlfriend or something. You can't do that, it's illegal. And we're going to have criminal penalties in place now if you do those illegal things.

We're going to make sure it's clear in law that it's illegal, and there's criminal penalties. There's 56 more of these. There's audits that are required. There's lawyers that have to be present if you even do a U.S. person query.

If we have time, Brian, it's important for people to understand what I'm even talking about when I say a search and when I say a query. I think a lot of people, when they hear that, what they're hearing is, okay, so you put Brian's name into the database and all of a sudden you can read his email account. That is absolutely not what's happening. It's not possible to do that. you wanted to do that, you would need to go to a judge and get a warrant.

It's more like you're running a license plate. It's more like you're running any number of databases that any cop would run when they're just, they suspect somebody of something. It's important for people to understand that. Understood. But here's one thing.

An example.

So bin Laden's over there in Afghanistan, and he calls me. On in New York.

So right now we just know he's call he's calling an American. Without this program, you would not be able to find out who he's calling. And people listening right now, do you want to know who Bin Laden was calling? Right. It would be to our advantage to know.

Now The problem was with Carter Page, they were making it, they were tapping his phone, and also George Papadopoulos. Then were they also using that to surveil him? Uh no I'm not sure I can speak. No, I don't think so on Papadopoulos. But we're talking about two separate things.

The example you have with bin Laden is a very good one, right? Like, wouldn't you want to know who the American is? Because what I remind people is. What do terrorists want to do? They don't just want to like train in Syria and Afghanistan.

No, they want to train so that they can do an operation here in the homeland. Right. And in order to do an operation here in the homeland, they're going to have to talk to some Americans and they're going to have to talk about Americans. They're going to have to talk about American places. And so if they're talking about a Starbucks, for instance, or maybe an airfield where you do pilot training.

You're telling me that we can't even search the name of that training facility to see if other terrorists around the world are also talking about it. This warrant requirement would actually prevent you from doing it. And people are like, well, we'll just get a warrant and you could do it. You actually would not be able to get a warrant because simply talking about something is not probable cause to get a warrant.

So when we say this kills the program, we mean it. It kills our ability to connect the dots. From terrorists on the outside to the inside. And that's a very, very serious problem. Because, again, the only thing that matters about terrorism is the fact that they want to conduct terrorist activity here in the US.

And so, if you cut out that connected dots, if you cut out that line, that's the problem. The Carter Page issue, they really had a warrant. And so that's a different problem, and we address that in these reforms as well. The problem there is that they just lied about the information to the judges. It's it and there is no criminal penalties for it, so we're creating those criminal penalties.

So there are two separate problems, and it's important to distinguish them. True.

Now, here's an example.

So you think you have a warrant, you think you have enough to get a warrant. The judge says, I'm trusting all this evidence that you're giving me is right. There's nobody there representing somebody that you're looking to get a warrant on.

So, have you changed that process? Yes. I mean, so as far as the Fisk court, Well, I mean some I'm not really sure I understand your question. If you're trying to get a warrant on a foreigner in a foreign country, they obviously don't have a lawyer there defending their rights. That's kind of the whole point.

Um You know, for the process for a U.S. person would work just like it works any time you get a warrant, you know, for any search that a cop does. I'm not sure it's any different. I want you who Christopher Ray said yesterday, cut 12. Section 702 is indispensable in keeping Americans safe from a whole barrage of fast moving foreign threats.

It is crucial to identifying terrorists in the homeland, working with or inspired by a rogues gallery of foreign terrorist organizations who have publicly called for attacks against our country.

So, Christopher Ray is saying, I need this. And then here's Congressman Mike Garcia. Tell me if you understand the sentiment. Cut 13. I'll be honest with you, and this pains me to say this, but.

I don't trust you, I don't I don't think that this is necessarily a funding problem that we have for your agency as much as a leadership problem. And you have held no one truly accountable for prior FISA abuses that we have all seen and recognized. You've stood relatively silent and passive about the biggest national security threat to our nation. That being Our very open southern border. I give very little credence in either your ability to do this job or, frankly, lead the brave agents below you.

I don't trust you to protect us.

Do you trust him? And do you agree with Congressman Garcia? I agree with both. I mean, because they're both saying totally different things. I mean, so Ray is correct that we absolutely need this program or people will die.

Mike Garcia is also correct that we've lost trust in the FBI. Mike Garcia is a good friend of mine, and he agrees with everything I told you already. We're going to vote exactly the same way today.

So they're both correct. I don't trust the FBI, which is why I want these reforms. We have 56 serious reforms, and I looked it up as you were playing that because your question was. Is there going to be an independent lawyer, somebody to represent an American at a FISA court if that application is done? It was not that way before.

These reforms would change that.

So the answer to your question is yes. That's really important.

So yes, I I agree with Mike Garcia. They've lost our trust because they did too many things that were just outside the norms. And so these set of fifty six reforms correct that. But you've got to correct really sensitive, complicated, important things with a scalpel. Not a hammer.

If you put what the big debate here today is whether you have to have a warrant to even search the database. That's like saying you have to have a warrant every time everyone, a license plate, or any number of databases that cops use every day to just connect dots and investigate things. And the other analogy I would say, if you give me the time, I don't know how much time we have. No, we're doing good. We've got three more minutes.

Okay, perfect.

So here's the best analogy so that people understand what we're actually talking about. Five is just a wiretap. It's just a wiretap, but on a foreigner. And it's not just a phone, it could be emails, texts.

Okay, so it's the modern age, it's a modern age wiretap.

Now, just in the U.S., if you're wiretapped, Brian, and we're having this conversation.

Well, they have a warrant to wiretap you, but they're also listening to what we're talking about.

So now that collection, that this what I'm saying right now is incidentally collected in that. It is legally collected. Yes. And it can be acted upon.

Now, it doesn't mean you can go to my inbox. It doesn't mean you can go through all my stuff. Unless I tell you something really bad, and okay, now you have probable cause to get a warrant, but you still have to go get a warrant. There is no difference between that and Pfizer. The only difference is that Pfiz is a searchable database.

So all of those wiretap conversations just happen to be stored and you can search for them. Gotcha. That is the only difference.

So it's got to pass to that? I think it'll definitely pass. I think what I'm more worried about is an amendment which requires the warrant for that search that I just described. Because if you do that, you kill the ability to search domestically for very practical reasons. Gotcha.

And it's complicated explaining why. And if you pass that, you kind of kill the program. And so I'm hoping that amendment fails. It needs to fail. It's Jayapal's and by the way, the Progressive it's the Progressive Caucus's amendment.

This is mostly written by Democrats. And so, you know, we're being derided as rhinos for supporting this. Just to be clear, It is the progressives who agree with some of these guys in the Freedom Caucus on this. It's the progressives. Always great to talk to you, an impactful congressman every day.

Congressman Dan Crenshaw, thank you. Thanks, Brian. Appreciate it. Hey, quick announcement. I want you to watch One Nation over the weekend.

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