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Devastating Update on Christians in Nigeria

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Devastating Update on Christians in Nigeria

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June 4, 2021 1:00 pm

Today we bring new updates on the plight of Christians in Nigeria. The ACLJ has offices around the world and we've made 18 submissions at the U.N. demanding action for Nigerian Christians and Christian teen Leah Sharibu - who has been a hostage of the Islamist militia Boko Haram since 2018. Two members of the ACLJ team have firsthand experience working directly with other countries on the international stage. ACLJ Senior Counsel for Global Affairs Mike Pompeo and ACLJ Senior Advisor for National Security and Foreign Policy Ric Grenell join us to discuss the latest regarding Nigeria, Israel, and more today on Sekulow .

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We have not refocused internationally. What we saw what happened. With covert receipt. We focus it actually a bit what it will use obviously with the conflict of Israel, Ed Abbas, that's over. We kind of said okay back to what's happening domestically, understandably, to appoint because our own countries issues dealing with covert tried to reopen getting back to a sense of normalcy but would you do that you start forgetting what is going on around the world to really be focusing on that with two people who do know a lot about what's going around the world.

Of course, without record out and by Pompeo what Nigeria. This process of getting to a point is a country that for a while was actually a symbol of how Christians Ed Ed and Moses could live together in a basically 50-50 estate to a country that is no longer being it is able to protect its citizens is considered a country of concern at the State Department. Because of the religious liberty issues and in Germany see an uptick in support from Hezbollah actual Hezbollah supporters on the ground in Germany were to bet that record. I was a former pastor. Jervis is a lot to talk about their second half hour to read what's going on with Israel.

So it's a lot of this to be. I think you probably see a flash of the news is privacy guy who stayed going what's happening there with this government would highly allow that were five election, and in the last three years. So we get a unit that is well and take your phone calls. You know it's interesting because Andy, the one thing you could say clearly about Israel politics are not predictable week, but we been there with now multiple we work with multiple prime ministers going all the way back to Ariel Sharon. But I guess the person we really work with in 2000. And then of course Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Brock and then go ahead and be glad. We also work with all that I do remember that the right order to get the patriarch of the of Jerusalem, confirmed by the Palestinians, the Jordanians and the Israelis and you were instrumental in meeting with Ehud Olmert, the Prime Minister me and are calling Stuart Roth at the Prime Minister's residence on the Sabbath. He made an exception for us, which is an enormous concession that he made so we know the complexity of the multifaceted view of politics in Israel and generally in the Middle East to force Israel's coalition governments in order to explain what all that means because is a lot of moving parts right now looks like a new coalitions been formed that Benjamin Netanyahu may be out, without limitation, what you do with Israeli politics.

You have a coalition and it literally lasts join, you know that's could last for a month a week. He could be over whether they have every just announcing that you have wanted is that the votes it said actually moving forward is that if you got actually have this people formalize their votes and after your elected there just like here you know. If you elect, you can elect someone who ran as a Democrat they could decide they will become a Republican in there they could do that after you left them. That happened in the state Senate rights which shifted about the power, the Bush ministration exactly add you. That is a voter with the next election comes, you could decide if you like that are not a lot of times it's done to reflect your your the demographics of use in your state it. Israel's issue there's been a coalition of moved to say that yahoos were there long enough basically see you got conservative members edit liberal been presented at the airport incident.

That's the real big? How long they stay around there say because Abraham accords there say why we are getting the benefits that of a bigoted estate that's got all these resources the country it's got all this this this ability to take care of its citizens with not part of the government you don't get as many resources that Ed so Hezbollah was involved with Rick about increasing their footprint in adapting international, including Germany, so we have a lot to talk about share this with your friends.

Let them know what's going on, a radial inference, no 40 getting into conversations Rick Pennell coming up and then by Pompeo challenges facing Americans for substantial time in our valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about our life changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is certainly protect. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission life will show you how you are personally pro-life support and publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the end what Obama care means to the pro-life in many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right question for you, mission life today online ACLJ/folded Iran on the world stage their proxies at Boulder as well.

There's a report out out from one of the German state intelligence agencies about the growing number of Hezbollah supporters in Germany recruit out Natalie for acting director – hotels for a bass to the jury rejoiced as a special counsel with that with that the ACLJ afforded affairs, national security, Rick. I will write you this because we don't Germany has got this packet for use that unit was you said it was a good thing. They think they box the EU and said working to designate Hezbollah's. This terrorist organization are they able to but then I was reading the report and what they would then there's reporting of the report and said that it that allows them to kind of monitor that but does allow them to make the make the arrest. Are these what's what's happening on the ground that these individuals are are able to operate knowingly to the German intelligence, but there there really very concerning issue because as as you know, the European Union does not and has a lot out right and that's a real problem when you think about has blocked and admitted no terrorist organization and yet the EU does flip-flops trying to figure out how not to offend the date the terrorists because they don't want to inflame it. And so when I was ambassador to Germany was a real problem and I worked with Sec. Pompeo to make this a priority and to try to say to the Germans of the largest economy in Europe has a lot organizing here within Germany because you're the largest economy in all of Europe, and they're using really shady ways to go under the banking scheme they're doing front companies are doing money-laundering, and so we went on a year campaign to convince the Germans that they couldn't wait for the European Union.

They finally took action. They now have a law that has a lot and they have the tools to arrest anyone organizing and supporting has including financing of the stair and so this is a really big deal. It's too bad the rest of Europe doesn't follow through Rick there's report right now that there's 180 has blue members that and supporters in the state within Germany lower Saxony. That's an increase of around 20 members just since 2019 and we know that there's this connection between clearly connection between Iran and the Islamic Republic of Iran.

The Revolutionary guard and Hezbollah are they picking Germany because of the size of the economy or is it a friendly territory to them or not getting picked up right questions and the reality is that under the truck in a straight member. These years that were monitoring that you're talking about our night and 20 like a balloon when you squeeze it trump administration squeezed Iran and we we shut down their financing to the greatest extent that's ever been shut down. We really implemented worldwide sanctions. We told European companies have to choose between doing business in Toronto doing business as we squeezed that balloon what happened.

It came out on the other sides and so you're exactly right Iran and has bought all of the those who financed terror tried to find safe haven and that meant places like Germany and throughout Europe which was our argument.

My argument as US ambassador.

My argument as director acting director of national intelligence. I brought the information not only to Germany not only to Brussels where we testified in front of a committee on the problems. I took it to the French national security advisor and they have this attitude throughout Europe that it doesn't happen here and we had to show them the evidence and drag them to the evidence to say it is happening here is the you know maybe we got offices in Strasburg France. As you know what you were very closely with our our team in Strasburg or European Center for Law and Justice so and I was thinking just said that just triggered my mind this is a European problem that is be.

I'm in Germany as a focal point, but it is a it's a pan-European problem and it's just as exactly what Rick said, it's just that you squeeze them and they just pop up of the place I whack a mole you had it meant another one comes up that's exactly correct joy. There is no containing them and the Europeans after government realized that it's not an American problem. Only it's not a German problem is not a French problem. It is a European problem throughout the European union and they need to come in for full realization of the fact that has a lot of affairs organizations are operating within Europe as they are in the Middle East and elsewhere wherever they can get a foothold.

We, the European Center for Law and Justice in Strasburg are constantly vigilant about the things that are going on in relation to the activities of tears, organizations, and we bring this up, especially in France where we have a very unique presence at the European Court of human rights in Strasbourg, which is something I you know Rick is now trouble spring up or something. We want to get really keen on our rock operation out what was the better for it. So did nuclear deals because everyone, Hezbollah's relationship and Europe's interest of getting the US back involved in this.

How connected was that that the fact that well if you're going to do business with Iran. These are kind of proxies of Iraq. If you do business with Iran.

Why not do business with your political party which sub country oats we believe are tears organization US, Germany, acknowledges that ours is a terrorist organization that if we get back at that nuclear deal which is big. It was so bad that that tired and just hit it right on the head.

I mean this is the whole problem of not squeezing the balloon at the same time right. The idea is that if we all United Nations EU all of the Western alliance and we get our Arab allies to follow squeeze at the same time, the office, but instead there is this idea by the bite administration that we have to engage with Iran in order to somehow convince them and my vision as I'm off her engagement.

I think down something a great job and engaged engagement on North Korea. I tried a little bit of engagement in Venezuela on behalf of the trump administration. I think engagement is good, but you gotta benchmark it got to be able to come back two weeks later and say hey did this work, or two months later and say get it working and if it doesn't, then you gotta do something else. The JCP away and and the implementation of it was not working. Iran was lying to us.

We know that and and so what we have to be of the do is say the Europeans engagement with the Ron does not work, especially this current Iranian regime. This is this again I goes back to the idea is the world kinda refocuses rate there was a lot of this could move a lot of moving parts I goes on this last year was covert and people should reengage the world. Our international offices re-engaging you think that that the idea that you is it education I mean it like it's a good sitting down with the French officials and having to educate them about Hezbollah's danger do they just don't want to acknowledge the that we we saw the wave of tears of the hit Europe. It was there was there was a lot of terrorism happening on the street event with your own country, but they were having a lot of a lot of the taxes get dangerous to be on the streets for. Type why don't they want acknowledge it's a great question. I say that that we share the goal when when I spoke to our allies in Brussels or in Paris or in Berlin. They all say they share the goals they want in a van as well as terrorist activities, but they don't believe that is happening in their banking system and so what it requires is a team of people to show them the evidence. When I organized that DNI was 18 and I can go to great detail of who's on the team and what countries are we having team and hopefully Abraham's continued ration, but we have a team that's collecting the information and regularly sharing it with our European allies getting our European allies to designate has bought as a terrorist organization helps squeeze the balloon.

It must be done and I hope it's a priority.

It certainly was in the trumpet and then you got, you know you know this for because of your work in Germany and Turkey not that far away and turkeys become a hotbed for Hamas. I mean, so you've got Hezbollah and Hamas literally fully functioning and operating out of Europe right now. And sadly, that is at the foot and responsibility of everyone he is out to two really dial back and in support, they been terrible towards Israel.

The Turks and its consistent and we have really tough conversations because as you know, turkeys, a member of NATO and we have a treaty obligation with them.

We need to have conversations with NATO membership say this to everybody was this his broadcast. Rick Grenell, former acting DNI and investor to Germany. We got Mike Pompeo coming up Sec. former Secretary of State and former director of the Central intelligence agency tell you your support of the American Center for Law and Justice folks, this is what you say where the addresses issues and also provide solutions to address them and take action. That's what we do at the ACL to your support of the ACLJ is made all this possible. Rick, thanks for again great insight right now.

Seven. We can coming up my Pompeo that's right it always go to ACLJ.org ACLJ.org to piece up on on Nigeria as well specific to our submission there and every retirement those issues to had they tear it up on that list. I where we knew there were issues with religious liberty within the government. Now only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable and is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn gold mission like it will show you how you personally support publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in emotion and what Obama care means to the pro-life discover many ways your membership is empowering the right to question a free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and or value freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ is on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress. In the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms than remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ sicko and I get to your phone calls 164 3110 second circuit of those calls are your questions as well, but for restricted estate, my Pompeo, a senior counsel for global affairs doing this now on the broadcast we would focus and we told her this early the week, briefly, that what's happening we would cease. He was on in our reports were talking more about what we do with the UN. As another inmate filed a series of reports on Nigeria and Nigeria, though the way that they do seem to the lids has changed.

It's a secretary Pompeo when you were Secretary of State we do that there were a lot of issues with religious persecution in Nigeria wasn't necessarily done by the state was initially done by the government, but it was not being stopped by the government and it's a country that is basically divided between Christians. It was a very, very, almost 50-50. This most power-sharing agreements based on religion, but you designated Nigeria as a country of particular concern with with the with the US does that. What does that mean what what what happened in Nigeria that changed the work that they feel jaded and informative for our team at the State Department when we began to evaluate whether or not to designate them as a country of particular concern was controversial for a long time and have been viewed as farmers versus ranchers that they religious element of what was taking place that wasn't brought to the floor, but I might be mistaken, what this is your heart, which we don't do this lightly when we designate a country of the 55th because there are great just violations of religious freedom here in Nigeria right but the largest economy. What biggest countries in Africa is fundamentally violent and the religious freedom of the Christians, mostly in the Northwest. Frankly, broadly throughout the country and we wanted to use the full force of the United States. While the full polka portion capacity of the US diplomatic pressure to convince Pres. Bihari and the leadership in nature that the right thing to do was to protect these religious minority from the practical threats of rape, assault, torture having her villages burned all the things that we have seen happen in Nigeria but it's something that concerns us greatly and they fail to contribute to the data set that underlay the decision that I made my things that I saw was part of the rationale for placing Nigeria on this country concern watchlist was in distance" from report systematic ongoing egregious violations of religious freedom. The question that we not United States reacted. You took action. What about the rest of the world. How should they be reacting or that they have there been on the back foot J. Unfortunately, it's one of the things I hope to achieve was to demonstrate American resolve and leadership to begin to put pressure on European countries. Countries throughout the region who will care who would properly care about religious freedom and protecting religious minorities look weak without what happened to Christians and yet the Iraq. The risk is that if we don't begin to get this right. Nigeria will have the same kind of thing the rest of this time for my dentist today to something that approaches something with far more likelihood to lead to the come complete elimination of Christians in the region as we want to try and get out in front of it so we not only made the designation, but we devoted a lot of resources to working with the Nigerian government. Pres. Trump address this directly with the Nigerian leadership himself think it's unacceptable to allow Christian minorities to be treated precisely as you describe the treatment you let Dr. Amy, one of our colleagues hearsay accounts for the ACLJ has a question for you and against focusing on the lives, liberty, or should I know actually that urinary speaking at the for the archons. The ecumenical patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, which we represent globally and Andy is the main liaison in our global work for the Greek Orthodox Church unit question for secretary Pompeo left in this country as a very well-known and overt hostility toward religious liberty and with the amount of power that they now have over the Democratic Party are you concerned that this issue that is religious liberty will take a backseat in the Biden administration and not be in the forefront. I'm very concerned about it. Indeed, in the first hundred and 20 days out whatever, or into week we seen this already, we see something they have almost religious fervor about the green new deal take up residence over the work that we did on religious freedom was very much a part of who we were in the trumpet ministration every place we went was a priority for us.

We we know that every human being is created in the image of God and so we wanted everybody to have a chance to practice the faith of the way they chose. We worked really hard at it and you can see, you can see on the left, whether it is the absence of willing to take any risk to help people around the world, and trying our other places her in Nigeria protect these Christian religious minorities. Or, you can see it in the anti-Semitism with nasty sleeping inside of the party as well.

They think about religious freedom in a way that is fundamentally different than the way that I do and the trumpet ministration did and frankly it's very different than the way our founders thought about religious freedom while the Constitution protects that here at home and it demands an end. This work demands that we work on it abroad was the next question which is it's not in Nigeria to vacuum the idea of saying that you work with countries the man I don't get it perfect they might be far off. But at least making it a priority when were negotiating but did you know at the same time a safe trip. Apparently if we continue to let you know China to carry out a genocide and and work with Iran as as a. The US and Iran in these desert.

These are known persecutors. They don't hide it that they brag about it. Then they state they showed other than local television than the domestic audience shows this kind of level persecution and I does it signal to the Nigerians of the world that they have less resources.

You don't have to make this a priority.

Got to secure military because that's always life over that year was that at a certain point where is this where is the military where the security apparatus is to protect these people you got it right.

Two things one point at the beginning when we tried to reward countries who place. It is a priority and who made progress in the floor. Like most improved player if you but we wanted everybody to be moving in the right direction towards increasing religious freedom in the country to the Russia issue quickly because he says may block we maybe I was lost in checking that we have which time okay good yeah five final question ascertained Pompeo just briefly we saw that these the rush of the tax on which to become Russian criminals and the idea is is is will we see those attacks is it is it as directors try that to us.

If it were enough to try these company. Everyone here the US recognizes that means Chinese government and they're starting to recognize that more in Russia may be these criminal elements, but from what you saw Secretary of State and his former CIA director he really think separate those out. It's pretty clear that the scale and scope of what's taking place.

There is absolutely happening with the acquiescence of the Russian government what we should let the Russian government get up get some random criminal some plugs that the responsibility to prevent this from happening.

These are attacks on the United States. Russian government should be held accountable for what's being placed in front of this is serious business that will impact our economy could be loss of life at some point when Pres. Pres. Biden to meet with Pres. Putin, he better take over Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Also, former director of the CIA and senior counsel for global affairs for the ACLJ thank you for your comments and for your work and your efforts and thanks for being a colleague is making a huge difference for us at the ACLJ thanks Mike backs and have come up at eight. I get. If you are requested to bring it to Israel next Civil War these issues and you might not have focused on as much because of what's happened domestically here, one 800 684 31 to beginning of the conversation for decades. ACLJ's been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC say that percent are to you so that what is a person with a positive and the work of ACLJ you know it's been it's been a working we been doing for decades now, but that the fact that you former Secretary of State Tudjman and his time as Secretary of State have the ACLJ reporting on these issues, which we talked OCC early the very extensive reports. We do all these countries, what issues they're facing.

Is it that you know it's not that all these countries are perfect in the governments approved but are they do what they should for religious liberty protected to keep the to keep with the promises they make it out of their Constitution to their own people and that's informing State Department decisions before I will tell you what this is before us before Sec. Pompeo says of the Obama administration we were doing work before South Sudan became independent country. We were there we did work with that that government as they were moving towards have for their own government and after we were there got back a call for the State Department out of the blue because that special a representative for the sets for two S. Sudan, who happened to be also. So his deputy was a law professor by the Georgetown wanted to do it while I was doing that wanted to know what we saw we could get basically debriefing as we were getting more access than the US government at the time because we didn't have to worry about who was this what were they associate with. We could just go in and have meetings as a religious liberty group and is as it is a legal organization because Elsa because our designation at the UN to those countries and so I usually go to God. Time yet we do bring out were able to marshal our resources and be into get on a global scale information that we get back to the government or orca policy statements that really have to be on the ground to get well, that's one of the advantages that we have because we have offices giant you know when you've said on this program. We have offices worldwide in Africa. We have offices in Asia. We have offices in Jerusalem and Strasbourg. We have a presence in the United States, which is overwhelming and and very laudable, and we are able to dig up information and to find resources and things that we can then transmit to the governments of these different countries and the United States government that allows them then to take the action we only have this ability because we are spread so wide and so far in our work, and I remember when you got that call on them when you just my memory on the South Sudan situation were very involved in their drafting their constitutions and try to keep the government stable and in our office in Israel was assisting on that when I mean that's how this works out our office in Jerusalem is working towards NRDC are present in our DC office and they were in South Sudan and then a law professor of Georgia and Georgetown happen to be, you know, somehow connected all this. Now I say that because because of the reach of the organization.

We are able to craft policy and Harry at the end of the day as we get into this discussion coming up next with skip bash policy is paramount on these matters. Absolutely. And in addition to policy vision matters and we also know that elections matter. So while Rome burns, while the border crisis mounts because of the ineptitude of the Biden administration. While Christians are being held captive in Nigeria Asia and elsewhere.

The ACLJ has remained vigilant in our ability to do so depends heavily on our listeners and donors. There's no question that none of the seven I'm just thinking we just had on the podcast anything about the person about his broadcasts we had on the former acting director of national intelligence and ambassador to Germany when the topic was Germany who happens to be a special advisor, senior advisor, senior counsel to the ACLJ for national security and international and then follow that up with our special senior counsel, global affairs, Mike Pompeo, who happened with former Secretary of State and director of the Central intelligence agency, so let me tell you none of this happens. None of it without you. That's what your support of the ACLJ is so critical. I want to personally, I want to say is thank you on behalf of all were able to continue to expand our reach to get to the next level and that is because of all of you.

I we come back with any of the situation Israel and what's happening on the ground there politically how that affects the US relationship.

We write back the challenges facing Americans for substantial time in our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines projecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms and then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. Not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable and voiceless.

Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn, called mission will show you how. Personally support publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means many ways your membership is powering the right question for copy mission life today online/what we are doing United Nations to get you back up to speed, because it's only domestic issues dominating the news and for good reason. United States and write about but as we begin to kind of get to Arnett. The next phase of the Americas reopening, even in the bluest of blue states is is is is almost there. I was reopening. We wanted you back educated on what is going on internationally and what the work that the ACLJ does through our international affiliates organizations but also directly at the United Nations in one of those reports we mention weaving into a lot of detail on that day was a a a specific request to the UN, not to condemn Hamas and the Palestinian Authority for their many violations of international, who writes this may be at the UN, the most uphill of uphill task, but you know if you would've told someone that let's add 666 years ago that the US was get up at the Embassy of Jerusalem people. No one would believe it. I mean even because of that the entrenched ideology did Matt if you had a Republican President or Democrat present.

If you do the advisor to become over and say exactly what John Kerry said, which is that if you do this whether you'd like to do it or not you're going to cause the world to blow up.

You're going to cause 1/3 world war and the passive ministration said no were not in fact we connect to move things forward. So you got to always say it could be an uphill battle with you and it is with it comes the pastoral authority Hamas, but it doesn't mean that there will ever be a change of five be a realization just like Rick was talk about Germany and Hezbollah.

Ultimately, they saw the light and said we can't keep allowing this France started to see the light.

We can keep allowing this.

This is another this.

I think Thomas is now to start falling under the idea of it of almost because it is becoming down it a lot a proxy for Iran with our proxy for Arendt are joining is now is get back to senior counsel for the ACLJ and in charge of our law of armed conflict and military law issues and international issues. You were the primary architects Of the report that we have issued to the United Nations.

In fact, I am holding it in my hands right now. This was a submission written statement submitted by the European Center for Law and Justice requesting that the UN condemn Hamas and the Palestinian Authority for their many violations of international human rights. Lots also interesting that at the same time that we prepared and filed this document. There are reports coming out of even the Jerusalem Post, where they're talking about and the Wall Street Journal that in this last conflict Gaza businesses which, of course, because hate Hamas uses Gaza. Gaza businesses as a basis to place the author bombs and the rockets that they are even these are the leaders of business in the Gaza Strip, not destroy Hamas supporters. In fact, not a Hamas supporter causes building was bombed by the Israelis because of his use of the rocket deployment place in 2014 and then was raised again in 2021 and was destroying trees rebuilt the twice what is Hamas constantly violating international law. What was the purpose of the submission here.

Point out to the human rights Council that it is not the Israelis were violating international law and is not the Israelis were in buyer in violation of human rights law. It is in fact Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, primarily, although not solely amend the baton and the policy authority also violate human rights of Palestinians, but we are writing because Israel is costly under attack UN human rights Council has one permanent country on his agenda and that's Israel, despite the fact that the experience of guilt 500,000 people. The North Koreans all these other countries.

The Chinese were involved in genocide against the leaders, but it Israel that's always the one thing attack so we went back to say if you look at the evidence, every rocket fired from the Gaza Strip violated the law of armed conflict because it was fired in the not knowing where was going to land the Israelis responded and they responded with targeted responses that military targets and therefore they did everything they could to be in compliance with the law of armed conflict and with human rights law. It's no wonder that there are people in the Gaza Strip finally had enough of being used as pawns by Hamas every time they want to make a statement against Israel. So it's interesting all of this is that in this example, this gentleman's business.

So Hamas, this is according to this command Wall Street Journal to slather before this Hamas and and Mr. Sim are now confronting the political Harry and economic fallout of repeated clashes with Israel which of setback development in the Gaza Strip, home to more than 2 million Palestinians, half of whom live below the poverty line, according to the United Nations, the economic consequences of these engagements. These military flareups are very significant for the people and for the region, absolutely. They are absolutely massive. I also would submit that the leaders of Hamas really don't care so long as they remain in power and so long as they have access to international funds to fuel additional violence, long-term, and to increase the size of their own bank account. Sadly, the Biden administration has fallen into this trap because it is essentially committed to funding the Palestinians, notwithstanding their commitment to violence. Keep in mind that Hamas is targeting citizens in Israel.

But it's also targeting its own citizens. It sends rockets indiscriminately into Israel, and it expects a return from the Israeli government which destroys businesses in Gaza and this destroys the economy. This means, sadly, that the people in Gaza become even more dependent on the leadership of Hamas because then Hamas doles out humanitarian assistance and basically is seen as a benefactor to people that they have been committed to destroying we are of court women office in Jerusalem is very actively lowers government affairs people.

What's interesting is Egyptian officials have visited both Gaza and Israel in the last several days of formulating a rebuilding plan apartment rebuilding plan and that money could not go to Hamas and that's the difficult part here because what Thomas then does is they don't get directly, they tax these businesses to get that money indirectly. I.

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Hamas is going to acquire the money one way or another and one of the course of the main funders of Hamas. Let's not forget, is Iran. They boasted about that Hamas did in the recent attacks on Israel that took place from Gaza about the resources coming from Hamas. Now the United States as they got a fermenter around that is now the negotiated United States is negotiating to resurrect this nuclear deal and to give the Iranians more money would stop and then take give Hamas so that Hamas can then find operations against Israel.

So it's a vicious cycle that the bad administration is really facilitating and helping skip looking at all of this in the report you put together.

If you're just summing up of the international law violations here in the scope of this how big of an issue is this well and I think every rocket fired fired over 4000 rockets, every rocket was an individual war crime.

So when the Israelis have the right to defend themselves when they came in they had to use precision munitions trying to target exactly what the military target was that because the Hamas places their forces in the middle of civilian communities. That in itself is another war crime, but because they do that when you go after a legitimate war objective and civilians are inadvertently killed. That's not a war crime, but that's a propaganda victory for Hamas so Hamas attacks Israel. Israel responds using munitions trying to minimize casualties, but every casualty that is used by Hamas and its supporters around the world to condemn Israel is killing children willy-nilly, and so forth.

So it's serious. In that sense and I think we also need to recognize that even the rockets acquired about 4000 rockets and about 10% of those never made out the Gaza Strip, so they fell back and killed their own people. And yet Israel is one thing, blame to those experiences. Rockets are coming to people and understand what that feels like this is very quick when it happens this week is they have a lot more and that they were there because of their relationship with Iran. So when you see these conflicts. Exes would soon once every decade that they really go all out with what they've got to basically unload their arsenals that they've got that they have been taken out because is a constant effort by Israel. It's not like Israel is not got aircraft. Whether it's helicopters or jets over Gaza all the time taking out a munitions factories at the same time, there is been a significant change in the ability of Hamas to fire more sophisticated even though they're not did not fit out David since everything that skip his time at the was a human rights violation a way that those are not specifically targeted military installation there to start off, but that the rockets are getting longer-range they were hitting Tel Aviv.

They were just hitting the border towns were just to the border cities. I bet that changes the mindset of the people to certain it's a different rocket would save the five Mexico, Texas, saying Texaco to Chicago so that that's where the changes been there their sophistication because of the Iranian support.

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ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ security issues obviously facing Israel United States Hamas the conflict there. That last about 11 days but there's also the same time there's been a election issues which has listed the other for election cycle tried to put together because regardless of will last more than more than a year or two that you see. It doesn't change the kind of continuity of government privacy that Yahoo is been there. He was there, the Clinton years back and get back again. Do not conform allotted 50, but that there's been a very long stretch so is even some members of his own political party start breaking off.

They want their turn as as leader right and though his political party. One of the most seats in the last election, which he headed for the lecture. This is a part of its more like a parliamentarian system that like our system that did matter was it like whoever gets the was the majority. And so it be like if the United States was not a two-party system but a multiparty maybe 15 political parties and exited those political party, said okay, how do we get a majority of Congress went to get people to say whether this party relating to caucus with us occasionally would like a Bernie Sanders, Angus King, who did they defy the independence with a caucus with Democrats which give the Democrats a QB could be that this is about the power. It is right now. That's what's happening in Israel is this idea to the gets in at 61. There is the key 60 was again Iran is that where you can get the call list.

What's interesting on this is that it's when they call a coalition government. It's Andy. That's what it is very much similar to the English system so you can end up with some pretty strange bedfellows and you can end up with ultrabright or ultra-Orthodox party and then you can also have the same on the Arab list which, actually, in this case is pretty much what happened but it's really based in large part of the English system, which is not served Israel very well, although there is continuity like Jordan said they just constantly and election mode. While it seems like that doesn't jive the political parties share of alliances in Israel shift continuously and that not only is from year to year, but from week to week and sometimes from day to day. This coalition could last note week meet your know that's exactly right. It may not be allowed coalition. If the info then Yahoo can put forth a coalition. I do know that he can but even it, but if his opponent. Bennett can do a coalition. It may not last very long because you got to put together a myriad of political parties and you gotta keep them together by giving them offices giving them favors giving them rides and birds and things of that nature that may not last very long as it's a fragile state. It is in many ways like the British system because it is a parliamentary democracy important thing that we've got to remember is the that it is a democracy. Yes the only one really in the region. Now Bennett and Pete have put together at least right now the havoc they notified Pres. Rivlin that they have a coalition it's a very small coalition and then the new President of Israel effective on the ninth of next month is going to be Isaac Herzog. We know he's a member Labor Party, which is there left of center party, but we know Isaac Herzog. We work with him before and he is now going to be the President, which is not just a ceremonial role. It's probably the actually cheap diplomatic role, more so in some sense than than you would think because they big deal on a global level small present court held that office Isaac Herzog who's going to be the incoming present father was the President time Herzog so there's a lot of those kind of things happen as they do here what it should say that this could be actually long-term. For further Arab relations with Israel is that when the ideas is that the reason why is Arab political parties who in the past were bases of protest parties right they got their votes. There's a few cities and in Israel that have no significant population where the member of the Knesset.

There is a wood would cover the Arab communities of Nazareth is what Nazareth is a historically predominantly Muslim and and Arab and Druze. And then of course others areas in Tel Aviv and that are primarily Arab as well and they basically said you're the past.

It wasn't until the Palestinian conflict is dealt with in these are basically these are the lives of the Arabs who said you know what the Jews may have may be in charge now after 1944. That's okay were staying here we have businesses or families I hear were not to start the conflict that there was some conflict on the streets or during that that the war Arabs that raise attention but he said because the Abraham accords given the green light to Arab political parties to say we don't have to worry about that.

We have to wait for the Palisade issue to be resolved.

Either we can move forward and start reaping the benefits of what would be like to be the majority of a of a democracy, and they are actually Palestinian Israelis that are the one saying this so that I think the impact of policy wise area from a political perspective has allowed this to happen. Whoever the party is ever the coalition is upping the fact that the Arab party decided to join a coalition is really significant. I think it is. I think it is a dramatic move out within the context of Israeli politics but also we should keep in mind that the Obama administration clearly engaged in a collusive effort within Israel to defeat Benjamin not Netanyahu some years ago. So the open question now is whether America's left-wing State Department has intervened to drive Benjamin net Yahoo out of office. That is to me a very open question that all Americans who believe in the rule of law want to get an answer to what we know for a fact that that Lincoln project people were being hired by the left Israel because of their move tête-à-tête I get to see and to say okay if you can't beat it from being outside. How do you take the guys who would be ideologically may be on the same level personally opposed to most people say we don't we don't read into this much is a country dealing with on the international level. It's similar to cover last election personality-based more than more than more than policy did not know was really discreet Israel with the policy direction of where the country's been going if the individuals were there for a long time. Part of what was going on. We had a breakup of his own party still got the most about, but not enough necessary particulars his own parties because his own party split because I want to see new leadership know it's interesting involvement with both of you have said when you know you said Lincoln project on they went to the sleeve they were there and those that were they when they go international. I have resolve the bonnet of fish and their feelings they are being paid more money they would be paid in the United States to run these campaigns. But what's interesting we did a freedom of information act lawsuit against the State Department Andy about this is exactly about the issue of getting State Department dollars to the sun of Mahmoud Abbas, the head of the Palestinian Authority was try to overthrow the course and that you are ready political campaigns. This is one of the things that we do and I and our FOIA litigation J and that's why it's so important that we be able to have that capacity to inquire behind the apparent motives and look at the actual documents and we do that in the litigating of the Freedom of information that cases we send letters to the State Department there ignored or to any other agency, the IRS, the Department of Justice we turn around follow lawsuit in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia and we asked the judge that the man who ordered them to turn over the docket. We as we did in the case you just mentioned and we got. We cannot exactly what we thought as I got money in Israel. There's been a lot of this is over. The spinal is not over there yet. I know it's about made an actual vote, if one party feels off one person is often one of those political parties that everything shifts again in a private election on the vehicle was to file bankruptcy as well. I will get you updated as well.

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