BEHIND CLOSED DOORS: Trump Stops WWIII

We had breaking news overnight as President Trump and the Trump Administration stop a 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110 to have your voice heard on the air. We're covering the breaking news that came out last night and that was that the Trump Administration was working with Israel because Israel had planned an attack in Iran and they said hold off before we do that, before we move to a military option, let's see if we can get to the table. And we know precisely that's what's happened. Now these reports come out, obviously a war between Israel and Iran would have to be supported by the United States of America and our needs and whatever we have to utilize to help them and I think that is where it got a little bit hairy for this administration saying we don't want, as we've learned, the Trump Administration is not war hungry to jump in and do these kind of things.

That's right. This report out of the New York Times details that Israel had plans to attack nuclear sites in Iran in May, so just two weeks from now, and it gives a lot of detail that originally the plan was set for November but Prime Minister Netanyahu wanted it to be earlier than waiting that long and wanted it in May. They were optimistic that the United States would sign off on this but it took a lot more than just the United States signing off on this. The United States would have to be an integral a part of this. They would have to not only help defend Israel from retaliation but many of the plans included the U.S. itself conducting bombing because of the 30,000 pound bunker busters that we have in our arsenal. To get into some of these nuclear sites, Israel would need U.S. support for this to be successful and as of right now, President Trump, after consulting with Susie Wiles, Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense and the DNI, that he has decided to stick with this diplomacy plan of which we have round two of just this weekend. And that's for now.

Remember that. We're not saying never because look with Iran who knows how these are going to go but you know what I am happy with the administration that's willing to have these conversations with a country like Israel that we obviously are very supportive of but say you know what we appreciate your thoughts, your plans but first let's see if we can avoid more bloodshed and I think that is very important. I think that's important as America moving forward that we aren't always just jumping into a war that we have to support or not. Whether we support the war with Iran or not it may be something that we say as an American people you know what enough is enough but let's not start there.

That doesn't have to be day one. Let's get to the negotiation table. Same with like what happened with Russia and Ukraine. We decided we picked a side really quick and decided we were going to support them with equipment and money and funding and look I think we all know how that's going and how the American people have soured on a lot of what we've done there. We know that's what kind of what happened in Iraq where eventually people kind of soured on what we were doing there. So the American people though they are happy to immediately respond because we have those kind of hearts that want to jump out and help. I do think it's good that you have a President who's willing to take a breath listen to those advisors around him and realize he put together a team that people voted for and that team is not a warmonger team but you may have disagreements with that. Look we had on Mike Pompeo yesterday.

He had his thoughts and said look I'm happy the negotiations are happening that there's a diplomatic process that can go but don't trust them and certainly don't let them continue to enrich uranium. Well keep that conversation going give us a call at 1-800-684-3110 1-800-684-3110. We also have some ACLJ stuff to cover with C.C. Heil coming up including a really interesting moment that happened while we were on the air yesterday.

So you know that our team is continually at work so when you hear us here there are hundreds of lawyers there's hundreds of media team out there working on your behalf and we can't do that without you and we also have a big update in our Massachusetts case. So right now I'm going to encourage you go to ACLJ.org during our Life and Liberty drive. Your donations are doubled right now through the end of the month. Do it right now. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secula.

Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110 and I see a bunch of you are just jumping in right now on YouTube and rumble. So I want to reset what's going on. This news broke overnight and that was that the Trump administration was having some high-level meetings with Israel and encouraging them to put a pause on their plan to go to war directly with Iran in the month of May.

So just in a couple weeks because that plan needed not only American support needed American equipment and Americans to do this to potentially go in and defeat all that's happening in Iran and we're not saying that's off the table but we are saying it's temporarily off the table as America is currently meeting and having negotiations and sitting down and having diplomatic meetings. Again, I think we'll talk about this with Rick Rinnell a little bit later. I think what's always important is to remember to reframe how you think about this. Just because you're sitting down across from someone doesn't mean they're your friend. In fact, it could mean the opposite of that. You know, think about it in a way of a court case.

You sure you got to sit down across from your opponent or you know you have to actually face them person to person and actually handle it. Doesn't mean you're sitting being buddy-buddy handing them a big red reset button or anything like that. That's happened before though.

I've seen a red reset button. I can't remember who did that. It was in Russia.

Yeah, it's spelled it was in wrong the wrong phrase in Russian. Right. Close enough.

Ah, Hillary that's who it was. I forgot. Sorry. Sorry, you had deleted those.

I bleach-bitted that part of my brain. All right, phone lines are up before you at 1-800-684-3110. But Will, as I just see there actually is a spike of people watching right now. Why don't we go over a little bit of what happened here like we did in the first segment and then what the current plan is in our talks with Iran because it's going to continue over the weekend. Again, a very busy weekend for people. Holy week for Christians, Passover for Jewish people and hopefully for you Christians as well. Like I said, the stories kind of work together pretty well.

But yeah, go ahead. Yeah, so this comes out of the New York Times and it reports that Israeli officials had developed plans to attack Iranian nuclear sites. Their goal was to at least set back Tehran's development by a year or more. They originally had a plan for November which would have been much more aggressive would have had Israeli commandos going into the sites and actually sabotaging and destroying the sites. But that would have required mostly American air cover and bombing campaigns while they were doing this. But then they at the behest of the prime minister who wanted this done much earlier in the month of May came up with other plans. And these plans would have been mostly bombing campaigns but it would have required substantial American assistance not just support in the sign-off phase or even if you're attacked we can help. This would have required active participation of the U.S. military. The Israelis were at first thinking that they could get there.

They could get the Americans to sign off on this. You remember that meeting in the White House that was about the tariffs when Prime Minister Netanyahu came to America right after the Liberation Day announcement to have this first meeting with President Trump. The optics of it was for the tariffs the reality of it we're learning was for discussions about this high level discussions between the prime minister and the President and the teams with them about this attack. And where this started to shift and I think this is what's really fascinating with the state of the current administration the Republican party and even the people within the cabinet is that once again as much as the left wants you to think that President Trump is trigger-happy just wanting to press that button to send missiles at our enemies he was listening to counsel from his advisors and specifically Tulsi Gabbard the director of national intelligence brought to the table new intelligence that with an assessment that the buildup of American weaponry could potentially spark a wider conflict with Iran which the U.S. doesn't want and Miss Gabbard as reported along with Susie Wiles the chief of staff the defense secretary Pete Hegseth who has been very vocally saying we will not hesitate to use a military option against Iran and J.D. Vance all voiced their doubts about the attack which ultimately the President chose we are going to continue we are going to do tough negotiations and we're going to see if we can get something out of that before resorting to what should be the last resort a military strike. As we head into this holiday weekend I did want to give you a moment to let us know what you think do you are are you sort of in a position right now where you think America should be going into these conflicts into these wars and a lot of times look the best interest of Israel is usually in the best interest of America as well it's not like Iran is a friend to any of us here in the states or in Israel what do you think we need to do I'd love to hear from you as I always say you're one of the most important voices in the room and I want to hear from you 1-800-684-3110 again that's at 1-800-684-3110 as we celebrate this weekend as we head into Good Friday tomorrow and obviously Easter Sunday coming up what a perfect time to really put your prayers and thoughts with our team as well because we are hard at work and we're going to break down in just a little bit how our ACLJ team cannot move fast enough but cannot move faster in terms of the work that we're able to do you're going to really enjoy some of these stories coming up and we also have a big update in the next segment on our fight back against the state of Massachusetts you've heard about that and this is the Life and Liberty Drive and today we're going to spend a little bit of time talking about the life side of this because we know how important that topic is not only for me and for you but for everyone and for the ACLJ supporters as it has been for the last nearly 35 years we built that website also remember choice begins here to counter the campaign that was being run trying to target pro-life pregnancy resource centers and we can tell you that thousands of people have been visiting that site looking for locations of pro-life pregnancy resource centers so look that was not a ad campaign that was going to go out and say go give money to the ACLJ that wasn't the point the point was to actually talk to the people who needed help who were seeing those you know avoid anti-abortion center signs instead we were able to provide this ad campaign because of you the supporters there's some of them right now if you're watching right now again these are not these are not an ad campaign to support the ACLJ this is an ad campaign created by the ACLJ to help support pro-life pregnancy resource centers that don't have the money to take out these ad spaces all over massachusetts of course in very prominent areas in boston now we're in court there's a motion to dismiss that's happening right now and we are fighting back against it aggressively and that has been scheduled for this may 8th we need to make sure our team is ready as you're thinking about where to put your support i encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ right now this is our life and liberty drive we are well over halfway done with the month of april and we really could use your support tax season is over hopefully you have a breath of fresh air right now and this is a great time your donations are literally helping to save lives whether that's in the court or as we said by just building that counter campaign thousands of people in that area but the fight continues and we need your support this easter week give the gift of life go to aclj.org scan the qr code that you see on your screen have your gift doubled because we've been working on this for almost a year now since last summer when i first saw those signs on the street that said avoid anti-abortion centers i was walking around boston i thought we had to do something and now we are in court it is scheduled it is happening and of course they delayed it they delayed it they delayed it our ad campaign starts running throughout the state of massachusetts and all of a sudden the court puts it on the docket that's right and that's what we will be discussing that in the next segment with cc heil and that i think it shows also the power of once you are there and they start seeing it okay now we're going to schedule the hearing for this motion to dismiss in this first step which is the opposition the abortion industry and the commonwealth of massachusetts trying to get this thrown out of court saying no we have the absolute right to use taxpayer dollars to discriminate against pregnancy resource centers because we don't like them and they don't offer abortions that's what they're arguing they're saying throw this out of court doesn't belong here you can't sue us and tell us to stop this pregnancy resource centers that provide prenatal ultrasounds a lot of the things that are needed and then what always gets forgotten and now i always try to bring that up is what they do post and many of them have days where you go and you get clothes formula days special events some of them plan birthday parties they take care of these mothers as much as they can at least through the first year for many of these pro-life pregnancy resource centers they are there to help and we get back also we're going to tell you about a moment that happened while we were on air yesterday our team was you know if you ever see us sometimes pick up a phone or or look down on a computer screen it is not because we are distracted it's not because we're looking at other things or or even we're getting notes sometimes from our producers sure that happens occasionally but no this is because there was an active aclj moment with our legal team put into action immediately on the streets we're going to discuss that coming up but before that i want you to give us a call i haven't heard from you today 1-800-684-3110 there's some phone lines open as you go in to celebrating this weekend hopefully with your family and your friends don't forget to support the incredible work of the aclj rick ronell is going to be joining us a little bit later in the second half hour as well as cc heil in the next segment senior aclj attorney and we'll be right back with more on secular but right now i'm going to ask you put up that qr code i'm going to ask you because this is what tomorrow i know a lot of you're going to be off work or a lot of your kids are going to be home this is the time to donate do it today during our life and liberty drive your donations are doubled once again go to aclj.org and scan the qr code that you see on your screen and we'll be right back welcome back to secular again as we start to wrap up this week i know a lot of you will be off work tomorrow or maybe your kids are off school as we head into the easter holiday so if you're going to focus your time this is a good time to do it i want to tell you about the work of the aclj because yesterday we were on the show like i said sometimes you'll see us look down at screen sometimes we're talking to our producers sometimes we're uh trying to figure out what you know if someone's calling in we got a little screen here tells us who's calling in but sometimes it's because the active work of the aclj is happening in real time and this show is live 12 to 1 pm eastern time that doesn't change so if there's big work having to get done during that 12 to 1 pm it's not like we say hey hold off you let us know and that's precisely what happened and it happened due to someone on our team having a personal connection and the aclj staff and attorneys went to action immediately cc hiles joining us senior council here at the aclj cc i want to give you a moment to share kind of what happens and why it's so important do we have this team that's available 24 7 on call uh this is not like we're not stopping even this weekend we'll have people working uh heading into the holiday of course we try to let everyone have as much of easter and christmas and all the holidays off but sometimes the law doesn't necessarily work that way right tell us about what happened yesterday while we were on air yeah so this is actually an incredible story because we were able to jump in and take action immediately in real time this was not something where you got called in after you know a violation has happened and we're looking at filing demand letters or sending demand letters and filing lawsuits this was actually happening in real time in illinois we got word that there were pro-life people that were in front of an abortion clinic and that the police had been called on them and they were ready to cite them the police were ready to cite them for violating a signage ordinance and so we literally and again i think this is just really amazing and it shows how quickly our attorneys can respond we literally got on the phone with the police officers were who were there ready to cite these pro-lifers and we were able to talk them through the actual ordinance and the elements of the ordinance and show them that our clients had not violated the ordinance and so they were not cited and everything was good and we will continue to follow this case because it's not over but at the very moment when the police were there and ready to write citations we were able to stop it in its tracks actually jump into action and i think it's also important to point out cc that why we we don't just okay they're good we stop the police from citing them to move on the police were actually telling our attorneys that you know this wasn't them coming there on their own that they decided to go after these these pro-life advocates that day is that they would said they were just following orders right and that there were members of the city that were actively wanting this citation to go through and so we know that in order to protect the first amendment right in order to make sure that they can can follow out their convictions and use their advocacy in this way that that they aren't hindered in the future right by another round of police officers maybe ones that are just also just following orders doing what they're told but that weren't spoken to by our attorneys and walked through that we know that they almost have um the this out for them at this point and that they will be looking for another way to go after them absolutely and it's just like if anybody remembers our smithsonian case where you know the smithsonian institute kicked out pro-lifers kids that came in with a choose life hat or anything that was pro-life just because you get to the bottom of okay it was this one bad actor who did it or you stop that it comes usually the directive comes from somebody above them and so just like in that case we you know found out who it came from and we made sure that it got stopped at that level we will do the same in this case as well we will get to the bottom of it yeah absolutely that's why our team we're seeing a lot of people cheering everyone on cheering the aclj team on in the comments we really appreciate that of course we can't do that without your support because we're able to offer these legal services at absolutely no cost and i and i know i push that but again there's a lot of new people who watch this show each and every day who don't know that when you contact the aclj and by the way if you need to all you have to do is go to aclj.org help fill out a very simple form you're immediately connected with an aclj attorney if your case is your potential case is within the scope of the work that we do here obviously we're not doing family law that kind of thing you know it's religious freedom it things in that nature so go to aclj.org slash help if you need it but we can't be there for these clients if we don't have the resources because we want to make sure we can provide the best of the best and now we are in court finally in massachusetts coming up in just a couple weeks uh and this could be a make or break moment for this case against these pro-life pregnancy resource centers because they are trying to get it completely thrown out yeah absolutely and you know you tell this story so well logan because you were actually there in massachusetts and you were the one that actually saw this campaign as it was being rolled out in massachusetts attacking pregnancy resource centers and it's literally these laws are viewpoint discrimination because they are promoting and highlighting a pro-abortion viewpoint and if you have a pro-life viewpoint not only are they discouraging that they're literally going after you even legally so we have filed a case in massachusetts and immediately they filed a motion to dismiss which means they want the case thrown out that it never goes to trial and so we actually now the court has scheduled an oral argument on that motion dismissed on may 8th so we will be in massachusetts and we will be arguing against that motion to dismiss arguing that our case should proceed and we should be able to come after massachusetts for this violation what's the time period of that if they say hey we want to do this this oral argument happens how long until we know if they have thrown it out or they've decided with us yeah i mean hopefully you know within you know 30 days 60 days sometimes courts actually have limits this is a state court so sometimes courts have limits that they're you know going to say quickly yes we should know pretty quickly whether the the judge is going to grant the motion to dismiss or deny it yeah and hopefully we're shooting for a denial and look even if they offer it there's more that we can do that's not the end of the road of course you just keep pushing forward so i encourage you right now you got to support the work of the aclj you got to hear what cc's saying what our team is doing right now it is a vitally important you know these are we're talking about the counter campaign we are talking about having lawyers who are on the ground ready to work whenever they are called upon of course you have what's happening in massachusetts including our not only our counter campaign but we are in court on may 8th but our website alone that we built to counter that negative campaign has reached thousands it's reached millions of people likely on the streets of boston the streets of massachusetts but it has really reached thousands of people looking for locations for pro life pregnancy resource centers and you can do some simple math and say that's a really good thing that means hopefully a lot more babies are being born because the other side we were seeing it we were seeing the direct results we saw abortions rise by 30 in the state in the common wealth if you will of massachusetts and we saw a 30 decline almost even on those going to pregnancy resource centers so we fought back and we are doing it and we are not only on the streets right now with our ad campaign we are now back in court because of course it would happen a month after we launch our campaign we launched the campaign beginning of march and we just heard that it was scheduled last week it was even supposed to happen a little bit earlier than this but they decided to bump it back a little bit because of some school holidays and things that are happening in the area this is going to do it for the first half hour of the show the second half hour is going to be packed rick reynolds joining us we're going to take your calls as well at 1-800-684-3110 if you lose us here we broadcast for a full hour some of your stations only pick up the first half hour and how dare they but if they don't pick up the full hour i encourage you go to aclj.org go to our youtube channel go to our rumble channel you can find us broadcasting live right there you can download the brand new aclj app which thousands of you have and i encourage you if you have it it's a great way to not only support the work of the aclj with donations or signing petitions you can also get all your updates and a real catered customized to your preferences on the topics you care about the most on our aclj app and of course you can't do that without going aclj.org you can scan the qr code right now on your screen because all donations are doubled right now we'll be right back second half hour coming up in less than a minute keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is secular and now your host logan secular welcome back to secular second half hour of our broadcast happening right now rick reynolds going to join us in the next segment we're going to continue our discussion that we had you heard about the aclj work in the last segment with cc heil but we're also going to talk about that closed door meetings that happened that led to at least a pause in a potential world war three style situation that of course is when israel was meeting with our administration and saying hey we want your help to go to war with iran and at least our team including uh our friends tulsi gabbard some of the others pushed back and said you know what this is not the right time necessarily look not saying it won't be the right time at some point we know that uh that is not off the table a war with iran is not off the table but first let's jump in and see if we can get this done without any more bloodshed well and i think also the the israelis have to some degree a different uh calculus and different prerogative than than we have here in the united states is that they are very close they are seeing attacks by the iranians and iranian proxies uh non-stop so for them getting uh they may feel as if military option is the only option at this time i think it also shows that the uh this administration is trusted by the israelis more than the previous administration i don't know that they necessarily would have waited around for the go-ahead uh from the biden administration knowing how tepid the response and help had been through that administration so there is much better goodwill between the american administration and the israelis now i know that clearly they would like to strike and and put an end to that altogether uh i also understand the caution and the the cooler heads that prevailed within the administration at least from a strike that would be taking place next month in may we are less than two weeks from may and that is very early in the administration especially when the President believes maybe he can he we don't know if he will be able to get to a deal but negotiating trying to figure something else out instead of just a few months into his administration conducting and participating in a military campaign that could spark when you already have the campaign going on between russia and ukraine a much broader conflict in the middle east and knowing that the chinese the russians their relationship with iran it could literally have sparked world war three at a global scale very quickly there's always been talk that we're on the doorstep of a world war three with what has been happening in the middle east and with the russia ukraine conflict it would be something like that that could take it to the next level to a true global conflict a real hot war in that sense you probably will not realize you're in world war three until you're in world war three it won't be something that's like we wake up and we go hey today we're starting world war three it is these moments that escalate and escalate and all of a sudden kind of explode i also see a lot of comments coming in right now from our viewers who are saying hey i don't want to go i don't want to go to boston i don't want to support massachusetts uh we have great partners there i just want to say that we're reason we are so adamant about this is well number one we love our country great american history obviously comes out of boston the reason i was there i love it there but remember that not always the elected officials and the people that are you know pulling the strings in your state represent even the mass majority of the people that are there remember that's what's happening sure they're essentially a more liberal state without a doubt we have an incredible radio team there we have an incredible team with our friends at salem who put together with us we worked with them to get that choice begins here ad campaign you had advertising sections that were willing to take those ads and you broadcast them essentially throughout the state so i'm not encouraging you to boycott a state i'm encouraging you to do is help us fight back because there are great people in those areas that really don't want to see their state go down this path so i encourage you to support the work of the aclj now however my beloved orlando magic are playing the boston celtics in the first round of the nba playoffs so if you ever wanted to be mad at boston i'm okay with it this weekend but for purely athletic reasons purely for the reason well our friend jonathan isaac jonathan isaac is a great player on the orlando magic we were going to play video we'll maybe play that video a little bit later today he was in our last documentary our last special for the love of god save our country a great guy but uh you know having a little fun here but rick reynolds gonna be joining us in the next segment so stay tuned for that so welcome back to secular phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110 do we have him is he on on with us all right rick reynolds is joining us via phone today uh rick a lot of things are happening in this country right now uh will why don't you uh set up there's some stuff happening in california that's right we have to go to our national california correspondent whenever we see something happening out of that great state so rick uh gavin newson who's been at kind of trying to court maga to some degree through his podcast but now he's trying to be friendly he's announcing that he's suing the trump administration over the tariffs because of it's going to harm california's economy so much uh ignoring the fact of all the things that gavin newson himself has done to harm the economy of that state but what's your take on this yeah you know uh here in california gavin is being wildly mocked for this because he's probably the poster child for all 50 governors to show people what not to do with the economy he's literally chased out our businesses we've had a people fleeing businesses fleeing jobs fleeing for the last you know seven or eight years so most of us realize is that when it comes to the economy you should do the exact opposite of what gavin newson says the fact that he doesn't see the strategy that trump has on tariffs doesn't surprise anyone he doesn't have a strategic bone in his body so he thinks that you know this uh the tackling of the tariffs uh is a bad idea but remember the the fact is is that his own party is on the record as talking about how unequal the tariffs were and how someone needs to take them on nancy pelosi has been screaming about it for a long time and so he's missing the strategy but it doesn't surprise anyone that he can't see it yeah i mean the way he's presenting himself is sort of like the President of california the king of california the way he's even treated so you know we're the biggest economy look and i'm not you know downplaying that and california has is wonderful and we love it just like look we saw people in the last segment saying hey we're going to start you know boycotting massachusetts because of what they're doing uh to the pro-life pregnancy resource centers we don't say that here we actually think there's always opportunity to help there's obviously great people like rick and people in our massachusetts offices who do great work and they're you know they're not represented well and they're not represented well and you have someone like gavin newson who seems to just kind of go where the wind takes him if he can court people like a charlie kirk to come over and have a conversation with him then that can bring in potential you know let's say voters and quotes in the next elections or whatever he whatever he decides to do next that seems to be his mo he just goes where he feel like he can get the popularity well we should make one thing very clear is that there's a group of us in california that are absolutely not giving up on california we think there's a lot of opportunities right now we will continue to fight for california we have millions of conservatives in california we just have a state that has a lot more registered democrats we're working on that i particularly have been working on the voter registration the last four years and we just got our numbers back last year alone we at fix california my organization registered 198 000 new conservatives almost 200 000 new conservatives now if we keep doing this we're going to be able to throw the one-party rule in sacramento out and really challenge people like gavin is them who who don't know what they're talking about on the economy who keep chasing jobs away and then try to critique President trump for for you know tackling these big issues yeah i see all the comments coming in right now there's a lot of aclj supporters probably our first or second always kind of goes back and forth between texas and california where the most aclj recurring aclj champions are right now so i see a lot of the comments right now like tammy on youtube saying she's a aclj champion in california so we know that there's a big support group there i have to say there are many places where i can go around the country and occasionally i'll meet a listener or a viewer who watches our show if i go certain areas of california it becomes overwhelming the amount of people that do watch this show each and every day so i want to definitely thank our california supporters and those who are still sticking up for the cause and when you support the work of the aclj of course that's around the country and around the world it's not just picking and choosing areas that are more red or that you know a lot of times we're stepping into places like in massachusetts that are certainly more blue that we have to go and stick up for those millions of people like rick said in california even that are more conservative and are christians and that's what we have to deal with but i wanted to make sure that that was clear will that's right and rick just shifting topics here a little bit this is what we kind of led the show with talking about this this piece that came out in the new york times last night that President trump waved off an israeli strike after divisions emerged in his administration obviously trying to to pit it uh the drive a wedge between the the cabinet here by the new york times saying you know there's the hawks and there's the those that are less hawkish and there's division now but you read this and what it seems is that even those that are much more uh hawkish as they may say uh looked at intelligence read what was going on and decided and decided that they wanted to take a more diplomatic approach before going to airstrikes that we would have to have aided the israelis in as soon as a few weeks from now um obviously we know the media is going to spin this but am i reading that right it just actually seems like a very well-functioning administration that doesn't want to go to war is the first option yeah look i i would add this is the new york times you know they they just criticized no matter what for a while they were saying that there's no debate in the trump administration that everybody uh thinks the same way now they're saying oh my gosh there's such a debate that there's a division i i view it as a real positive that donald trump wants differing views he's not afraid to have a debate and matter of fact i've been in the oval office enough to know that if everyone does agree on something donald trump is the first one to make sure that the that we actually have a debate he'll he'll look for ways to make people debate because he wants to hear both sides he wants to hear all sides he wants people to to debate in front of them as to what is important and what's not important and what priorities does one person see as uh as the top priority and then someone else argues for a different aspect that is a healthy system i think people should feel very good that when donald trump is in the oval office he's getting a diverse set of views and then he makes the decision rick i wanted to give you a moment as well i know you've been a member of our team now for a number of years and one of our most popular ones we were having that conversation a few days ago because you you totally understand our aclj supporters our aclj listeners what they care about and the causes that are important to them as we do head into a holiday weekend it's obviously easter we are you know halfway through if not more than halfway through our life and liberty drive we're talking a lot about life right now being that we're in the easter weekend i want to give you the opportunity though to talk to our listeners directly about you know the work that we do here and how you've seen it in action and why it's important to support the aclj you know logan i know you know this i went to evangel college in springfield missouri national assemblies of god college and one thing i learned in college was this uh kind of message that evangel pushed on all of us which was all truth is god's truth no matter where it's found and i i love this concept because we it to me it says that we have a responsibility to find the truth and to make sure that we support the truth because the truth is god's version of the facts and what i love about aclj is that we're constantly looking researching trying to find the facts the facts that point to the truth the greater truth god's truth and i'm just so proud to be a part of an organization that takes the time to look at the facts and then takes those facts and puts them into action this is not an organization that is just about talking or press releases or or pushing public affairs issues this is an organization that employs lawyers and researchers we get to the bottom and then we know how to use the facts to fight out of all the organizations that i could have been a part of when i left the the first trump administration i was so proud to be a part of aclj because of this fact we're fighting for people on the front lines who look at the truth and want to fight for the truth represent god's facts and in turn they just need help they need someone to help them through the legal process or uh or through the government's bureaucracy but they know the truth they just need a little bit of help and when all of us join together and and you know ask for help financial help prayer uh all sorts of um all of the assistance that we can bring as a as the body of christ i think it's amazing to come together and be a part of this and i hope i never miss the opportunity to be in this fight rick thank you so much for joining us thank you for the very kind words it's been amazing to have you part of our team and i know that our audience i i see them commenting right now on youtube and on rumble feel the same way i do want to give you that opportunity now folks as we head into the next segment we do have a couple lines open if you want to call in get your voice heard good time to get in line 1-800-684-3110 we've only got 25 seconds in this i want you to go to aclj.org you heard the incredible work that we're doing we need your support right now as we head into this holiday weekend a great time to have your donations effectively doubled right now scan the qr code it's this easter week let's give the gift of life right now scan the qr code have your gifts doubled aclj.org right back with your phone calls all right welcome back to secular we're going to jump right in and take some of your phone calls there's still a couple lines open if you want to call in at 1-800-684-3110 let's start off with deborah who's calling in florida who is watching or listening on the radio right now deborah you're on the air yes thank you for taking my call and we as the listeners want to say thank you for all that you're doing for us that you all not grow weary and well doing and that you persevered so that we can all be champions for life for liberty and freedom and we say have a blessed weekend he has risen thank you deborah thank you so much for your calls and your prayers and support and also you're in florida i want to at least acknowledge right now if you're listening there is some breaking news there's some more unfortunate news that's happening as there is currently and we're praying for florida as well because there is an active shooter currently reported at florida state university where it appears to be many people have been already hospitalized or or something like that again the news is just coming out right now so if you're listening to this live again that's from the 12 to 1 pm eastern time time slot it would be 12 51 p.m as we are just now getting those reports currently happening again we don't know a lot of details so we'll continue on with our calls but we'll definitely keep you updated if anything changes bonnie is calling uh watching on youtube uh bonnie oh want some more information about everything that's happening bonnie go ahead yes i would like to thank you also for the good work you guys do um i was raised in the church the church never talked about abortions well this was way back when and in the 70s um even though i went to church i did not understand the role versus wade so i uh first time i was able to vote i actually voted for that bill and i've been asking gods for i asked god's forgiveness after that shortly once i got more involved with church more faithfully reading my bible and you guys explain things so well that the average person can understand and just thank you for the good work you do bonnie i appreciate that and look if you look at the history of the pro-life movement it had to happen when it happened like you said the 70s the early 80s because there was that propaganda campaign going through schools uh planned parenthood was showing up in all of these areas and in giving you incorrect facts to encourage the eugenics and destruction that they were doing across the country but because of that pro-life groups had to form in the 80s and really talk back to the church even and say this is what the truth is and this is what is happening so bonnie i'm glad that you saw that even in your time and we've been able to keep that legacy going now for the last 40-ish years here uh supporting the pro-life cause the pro-life community with the aclj directly thank you so much bonnie let's go to scott who's calling in nevada on line four scott welcome hi thanks for taking my call i wanted to touch on the iranian situation just real quickly i was thinking that if there was ever going to be a time and i'm not a war hawk but if there was ever going to be a time where we're going to do something this might be the time the chinese economy is very bad and they have their own issues and the russians certainly can't provide weaponry or money to the iranians to help them out and nobody else in the middle east has you know a taste for wanting to do battle on the iranian side so if there was going to be a time where we wanted to impede their nuclear program this is probably it because even a regime change probably won't change the fact they're going to pursue a weapon scott yeah and i think that is a big argument from the israelis as well they they have decimated uh hasbala and the uh the opportunity for attacks from gaza are not as uh as active right now obviously it's still conflict but just the the the multi-front war that israel's had since october 7th and now even with the bombing campaign from the u.s on the hooties it has really taken out a lot of the iranian proxies the asad regime fell so iran is very isolated from its traditional proxy partners russia as you mentioned having their own war going on in china with the economy but also remember President trump did give kind of a date that iran has to do get this all done by it's not just this open-ended four years keep going i don't think that necessarily the trade war and the economic issues china has are going to be wrapped up anytime soon as nor uh as the way it looks the war with ukraine necessarily ending before that window closes so i don't think that it is a forever uh putting this off the and the trump administration needs also to have that threat of military uh strike and and decimating of iran in order to kind of hold their feet to the fire in these negotiations so i i agree with your point i think that is very much the israeli point of wanting to strike while the opportunity is there but i don't know that that window closes if we don't strike in the month of may i did want to take a moment now and give us maybe a little bit of a diversion a little bit of something good to think about heading into the weekend of course like i said orlando magic are heading into the nba playoffs against the boston celtics this week it's an uphill battle but we are hoping and cheering on orlando magic friends friends because of people like john isaac who is just ji is doing some amazing things playing for the orlando magic and kind of reshaping the world of apparel in the name of the lord of course it is easter week and we did a special with him last year i want you to see like a just a two-minute version of what he has done for this country and what he is continuing to do when i decided not to kneel or wear a black glass meta t-shirt in the nba bubble and uh just just a really difficult situation to deal with and so everybody remembers the you know the tragic death of george floyd and one as a black man but also as a christian i was trying my best to rationalize what that meant and how i was supposed to step into the moment and share even if i if i had to or if i didn't but i remember my pastor was preaching and you know he talked about the story of jesus uh you know healing the guy's ear that peter cut off and one of the things that he said was if you live by the sword you die by the sword and he said that um if we step into this moment in the same way that kind of our nature calls us to which is anger you know uh get even um repay evil with evil then there won't be any change after i decided to stand the next day we have practice you know kind of you know like everything keeps going and uh we're leaving practice headed back to the hotel and uh we i get a text to my phone in the in the bus hey team only meeting when we get back to the hotel and i'm getting off the bus and one of my teammates nudges me and says hey just a heads up this is about you and so we get into this meeting and you know it's it's hostile and you know one of the things that i understood was that um you know a lot of guys were really you know serious about this you know they were they were a part of the marches this was really big for them and i understood the the seriousness and the sensitivity of the situation and i wanted them to know that i wasn't uh it wasn't about protesting them and it wasn't that i didn't see the issue i saw the issue i just had a different solution but it was tough it was a really tough meeting to be a part of because you know kind of my back was against the wall and um you know guys were you know upset with me and thought that i thought i was hijacking the movement and making it about me and and i was discouraged in the meeting they asked me hey are you going to do this again are you are you going to stand again and and i said yeah and kind of left it at that and i remember going back to my hotel room i think i was crying i called my pastor and said hey you know this just happened and and he said hey you respected their decision to kneel and they should respect your decision to stand great guy uh a friend of our show here and a friend of what we do i encourage you also to check out his clothing line unite us if you're looking for a great pair of sneakers or you know some shirts some hoodies whatever it is sports a great cause and they all have bible verses on them my kids wear them proudly as well as i do so again i want you to check that out look we're heading into the end of this show a lot of you are not going to be listening tomorrow because it's a holiday for a lot of people a lot of kids are off school you're going to be busy so when you're thinking about ways to support the aclj this is a great time to do it don't get distracted because tomorrow is a busy start to a weekend we know of prayer and a thought and of course of celebrating a resurrected savior so we want you to be a part of the aclj team we want you to be an aclj champion support the work today you can scan that qr code right now as it's on your screen and i encourage you to do so again that's at aclj.org we'll talk to you tomorrow