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Quanta Ahmed: The next moves for the U.S. in the Middle East

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Quanta Ahmed: The next moves for the U.S. in the Middle East

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So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kilmeade Show. We have a busy hour coming your way. We have a we're going to have Lieutenant Colonel Alan West at the bottom of the hour, trying to make sense of Texas in the midterms and Kanta Akman, Dr. Kanta Akman, senior fellow at the Independent Women's Forum, member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

We got to get find out what's going on in the Middle East. I also got to tell you about that great YouTube channel. Everyone's talking about it: YouTube.com/slash/atthebriankilmeadeShow. And today, my book comes out: United States, the Six Crucial Moments That Forges the American miracle, you could finally get it. Hope you get it, and hope you like it.

But before we get to Dr. Aquaman, let's get to the big three. Number three, every time President Trump leads to push for a ceasefire, President Zelensky and Ukrainians agree to it. They follow President Trump's lead. They follow the ceasefire, and then the Russians respond by hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

Yep, it's not hard to figure out. The energy fight from Iran to Russia and our economies combined to jack up fuel costs because of these conflicts. Why siding with our allies is the key to winning long term and necessary for this fight. Number two, this is a D.C. magistrate judge.

These guys are typically not friendly to anything Republican, right? Whatever was presented to them was enough to believe for them to believe that a crime had been committed and there was evidence potentially in Ilhan Omar's house. From the Omar raid and the ICE clash in New York City against illegal gang-linked immigrants, Dems and GOP are on opposite sides of the immigration debate. Where do we stand? We'll break it down.

Number one. I mean, for all the talk of Donald Trump's unpopularity, the Republican Senate candidates—this is gosh darn awful. How about Kemp Paxton? Sixteen points under water. He is literally the least popular GOP Senate nominee at this point in the cycle this entire century.

Three weeks to go, and we will know soon how much power Donald Trump will have in this final two years beginning that began in 2024. As 47 goes from Ohio to Alaska to try to keep the Senate, and that's what's going to be happening the midterms. It is the number one story for the next two three weeks, but we got to also see percolating in the background, certainly to have an effect, is what's happening with the Houthi rebels. They bombed the Saudis again for the last five days, and they're going for civilian targets. They want this fight, and they.

Actually, seem to me to want the U.S. to get involved because that's what Iran wants. Iran wants to affect the elections. They feel the higher gas price is the worst Trump will do. Trump is the biggest problem they've ever had in office.

And Doc, Doc Bed, you know that right now.

So you know also the stakes. Are you surprised the Houthis took so long to get involved and how much they're involved now? No, I think they've been extremely strategic, and they've probably been closely advised. And we believe they have IRGC commanders there, embedded with them in Yemen, and they are inflicting maximum pain when Saudi Arabia is vulnerable and when the United States is vulnerable. And they're going for civilian targets.

Why? They have no ethics. These are radical Islamists. They have violated profoundly civilian infrastructure. That's an airport.

That welcomed me home many years when I lived over there. In fact, to tell you the level of fury in the kingdom, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia has just made his second statement, describing theologically how they're violating Islamic principles. There's even been a drone that's been intercepted over one of the holy cities, over Mecca.

So this is an outrage. It's Shia Sunni, isn't it? I don't know if it's as simple as that, but that's part of it. It's also they are opportunists. The Houthis they were developed out of a conflict internally in Yemen following the Arab Spring.

They've militarized that conflict. They got onto the bandwagon post October seventh and claimed they were acting. Remember when they were targeting Israel? Long range missiles.

So they take whatever opportunity they can. But now my My concern is that they will further target more civilian infrastructure. That airport is the lifeblood of connection to Saudi Arabia. Forty million passengers every year. Will they be targeting data centers?

Will they be targeting, God forbid, desalination centers? Which I'm very worried about.

So, I mean, we've had plenty of time to get missile protection, missile defense protection around the desalination plants. It's been about eight months. Would you think it's there? I would say yes. I think Saudi Arabia.

Has prioritized oil infrastructure. Remember, the Houthis haven't just targeted the airports; they've targeted refinery capacity as well, which is very concerning. They've targeted the pipelines and also the holy cities. But Saudi Arabia is a huge country, and it has multi-layered defense. But the Houthis are operating with missiles and drones, and we see even from Being inside the 12-day war in Israel, I could see just the devastation one missile could do on a civilian population.

So, Iran's behind all of it. Colonel Michael Jernigan, a widin now retired, cut 34. What it says about the broader conflict is that the Iranians are trying to expand it. The Houthis are the Taliban of Yemen, and they are funded by Iran. Iran is reaching out and trying to expand their their influence around the world and trying to influence attacks in Britain and influencing attacks inside.

Why this is significant is is the Houthis' motto is victory to Allah, death to America, death to Israel, curse the Jews, and victory to Islam. And here they are attacking Islamic members of the religion, Saudi citizens on their way to Mecca, the holy city of Islam.

So none of this is in their their code. And so what that tells me is that this is all influenced by Iran.

So, what do you think? I think this is very timely because Iran has lost its near proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas are deeply degraded and ineffectual at this point for Iran, and this far proxy has been very helpful. Though simplifying them as proxies isn't enough; they have their own ambitions for Yemen, and this is coming at a time when we've been struggling with the Strait of Hormuz, though. It's beginning to ship tremendous amounts of oil now, 13.5 million barrels in September. Just as it can now narrow the Red Sea, very importantly, the Houthis have occupied an island in the Red Sea, and so they control the Bab el Mandeb Strait as well.

And that's why I think the United States must consider engaging Somaliland as hosting the operations from there to target them very closely. Because Somaliland, Somaliland is in. An ally.

Well, Somaliland is an extraordinary country. It's run its own elections for decades. It's pro-Israel. It has an Israeli and UAE military installation there. Our own Africa Command commander from the United States has inspected those facilities.

It's directly opposite Aden, which is where the government that Saudi Arabia and the world recognizes as legitimate is situated.

So this would be an amazing location. We are next door in Djibouti, but Djibouti, where we have Camp Lemonnier, does not allow the U.S. to host actions from there, as far as I know.

So we can make that distinction. Here is the president talking about Somaliland. I call it Somalia land, not Somaliland, because actually it's a totally different country.

Some people like Somaliland. There is nothing to do. You know that. There is nothing to do. I said you got to be kidding.

I think they should change the name immediately. This is so significant that he said this recently on this campaign trail.

Somaliland, they're Muslims. They have repelled Shabab. They absolutely do not tolerate Shabab, the radical Islamists that are rife in Somalia. They are wanting to engage with the international community, and they've been independent despite international recognition for decades.

So those are our friends. They. Are recognizing Israel, and they have been recognized by Israel. They are like the Kurds, having the same values as us, and are ready to serve. They've offered.

Hosting military operations and mineral rights.

So, okay, we go ahead and do this. I think obviously we have fifty thousand troops in the area, and other aircraft carriers coming to the area.

Some of our bases are not operable, like Bahrain, I hear.

So, the next step is Iran wants to affect the elections. Is there any doubt in your mind? I am sure they have ambitions for that. I am very doubtful that they can affect our elections, but you know how they could. By upping the price of oil.

They they could, but President Trump has already anticipated that by lifting a sanction on Russia to purchase some of Russia's, which is going to have no effect on the price. It's already lowered prices just on Friday. Futures, yeah, it it's lowered prices on diesel futures, which is important. And it's and we don't have a shortage of oil, Brian. We have a shortage of refined goods on the on the market, so helping Saudi Arabia protect its refineries and getting more refined.

Refining capacity, even stateside, there are ways that we could do that. Even though it takes years to build refineries, but that policy needs to change. Absolutely, haven't built a new refinery since the 70s. It makes absolutely no sense.

So, if what do you think is more effective, finding a way to neutralize the Houthis or finding a way to protect the Saudis? I think we have to do both. And I think we are already engaging with protecting the Saudis. They're a ferocious fighting force themselves. They've been through this for many years.

They have great assets. They work very closely with the Royal Air Force from Britain and with the United States. But I think providing them U.S. military assets that can get satellite imagery and help with targeting in real time would be very valuable. And we have amazing technology that has been developed in Israel during this war with Hamas.

The Iron beam that can shoot down drones just at the speed of light for a few dollars—that's something. And we even have developed. The United States was the first to purchase miniature iron domes called the Trophy that protects M1 Abrams tanks.

Now, Saudi Arabia and Israel have no diplomatic engagement, but if the United States is owning some of those assets, Saudi Arabia can benefit, and I'm sure those dialogues must be underway. Right. I just think that. When this midterm, when this midterm ends, I think this region explodes. What do you think?

I think when the midterms end, whatever the outcome, and we are watching a knife edge on this election, the president will be free to full court press. And I think we are at the moment. I don't think we're in a holding pattern. We could have an October surprise, depending on how the president is thinking about this. Inflicted on us, or we do it to them.

I think we will do to the Houthis, and not that the Houthis are going to be solved with military force only, but to subjugate them enough to bring them to the negotiating table and cut off some of the armaments and supplies and intel. The way we've done with Hamas and Hezbollah, the. General that you just played, it's very appropriate to think about it like the Taliban. Yemen has been the graveyard of empires going back to the Roman era, and so its geography is challenging. There are enormous human suffering.

Twenty two million people suffering under Houthi rule and in years of war. That's a humanitarian crisis. The Houthis again exploited exploited aid that was coming into Hodeidah, just like Hamas did in Gaza.

So these are chronic problems, but they need immediate subjugation militarily. All right, more with Dr. Kanta Ahmed in just a moment. Bottom of the hour, we change gears and talk about the midterms with Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, who's nestled. Running the RNC over in Texas.

This is the Brian Kilmeade show. It's Brian Kilmeade. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmeade. Hey, welcome back, everyone.

A few more moments to try to unwind the very complicated Middle East with Dr. Kanta Ahmed, senior fellow at the Independent Women's Forum, but member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

So the Houthis are ramping up things. They keep on hitting Saudi Arabia, but they did before they started doing this two and a half weeks ago. Is told had called Trump. I might have been directly, and they said. Our problem's not with you; it's with Saudi Arabia.

Please don't get involved. The problem, Doctor Ahmed, you know better than anybody else, is that when you block the Red Sea, you have a problem with us, and we are ally to Saudi Arabia.

So you have a problem with us. What is our best next play?

Well, we do know that President Trump struck a ceasefire agreement with them, but in some ways the Houthis have violated that because they've killed an American in this attack. This attack in in Riyadh on the airport resulted in three hundred and nine wounded. That is twice, more than twice, that were wounded in the Al Qaeda strike in two thousand and three, which changed the global war on terror for Saudi Arabia.

So it's a huge event. I think President Trump's next move, and I'm sure he's making those plans is to help with more strategic defence of the valuable assets in the kingdom and subjugation of the Houthis. There's another problem that I'm worried about. It's not only the Babyl Mandeb, the the bottom neck of the Red Sea, if you were, but even sewers. Are they going to start to target sewers if the hooties the sewers the sewers canal?

Yeah, if the hooties are not chastised, and they are, they're very specific at the moment. They're allowing. American ships to go by Bab al Mandeb. They're allowing Israeli-flagged vessels to go by. I am told by an expert in Yemen while I was in Europe recently.

They're in. They're targeting Saudi ships.

So the Houthis have to be made to feel enough pain that they reconsider that. And I think that will be kinetic, but that will also be anti-drone, electronic warfare, and other technologies that we've just. Think about how dumb it was four years ago when President. Biden made Saudi Arabia a pariah nation and took the Houthis off the terrorist, which was one of the first actions President Biden did. Yes, it was an inexplicable decision.

Well, trying to reapproach that. Yes.

So, what's left of Iran's government? What do you think they they they are evidently putting out reports that they're trying to get ramp up their military arsenal again and try to get having kids in school be read war books and try to get the country on a war footing. What do you hear?

Well, the the country itself, as you know, is in economic isolation, and I think that will only continue. And I think that they are under enormous pressure. I would watch the area of Iraq very. very closely. As you know, we've just pulled out of Iraq.

Big mistake. I think it was terrible timing. I would not have advised that. But you know, this agreement was in place. That leaves Joe Biden.

That that leaves not only Iraq exposed. It leaves the northern flank of Saudi Arabia exposed. We have Houthis that are working with Iranian-backed militia in Iraq, targeting one of the major pipelines was targeted from that direction. But I think as the as the The Iranian Republic becomes under more and more pressure. We are going to start to see some some.

Uprisings, some enclaves where there will be independent rule, some assertions made by groups in Iran to begin seizing power, and I think we're going to see that fragment. I mean, I heard that our military knows or our CIA intelligence knows who these groups are. We just have to get them arms. I have heard, and maybe the armaments are underway. I don't know.

I don't have enough intelligence on that, but that is. What I expect the phase of war is going to. Why don't you think the Iranians have continued to bomb Israel? It's been. It's.

They probably have limited reserves of their targeting. They're exacting more pain on the global market by punishing us in the Straits of Hormuz, and they may be moving their assets towards this very problematic group, the Houthis. And also, helping them, but also, and also, Israel has exacted an incredible retribution for the strikes that it withstood from Iran repeatedly.

So maybe the message is penetrating that they can't take Israel on as an as an enemy, and if they do. They basically Israel knows all the home addresses of all the scientists, of all the officials. They have this assassination game. All of the officers in the Revolutionary Guard, all of the valuable to multiple levels of rank ranks, and in fact, that's why this incredibly painful defensive war that Israel's had to wage after October seventh is going to yield enormous insights for these wars that have now unfortunately expanded across the region. The The threat of the Houthis is very similar to what Israel was facing from Hamas.

Remember, we used to call them rockets when they came from Hamas, but they were always missiles. This is a very similar conflict. How much you left to Hezbollah?

Sorry, how much is left of Hezbollah? There, there are groups of Hezbollah, but they're surrounded. Israel has gained geographical dominance; they've sealed off a lot of the a lot of the tunnels, and most of all, the Lebanese people now publicly despise Hezbollah, call them out on their news media, and aren't tolerating. Doctor Dokman, always great to see. A very volatile region.

You make it sound so simple. Thanks so much. Let's talk midterms next, Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. This is Jimmy Fallon inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding!

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