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The Matt Slick Live daily radio show broadcast is a production of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry During the show, Matt answers questions on the air, and offers insight on topics like The Bible, Apologetics, Theology, World Religions, Atheism, and other issues-- The show airs live on the Truth Network, Monday through Friday, 6-7 PM, EST -3-4 PM, PST--You can also email questions to Matt using-, Please put -Radio Show Question- in the Subject line--You can also watch a live stream during the live show on RUMBLE---MSL- June, 29 2023--Topics include---- 09- Bible recommendations, is there a proper way to read the Bible---- 14-- Jonathan Edwards.-- 20- The Vertical and Horizontal-- 24- Luke 1-68, Who was the horn of salvation, caller denying Christ is God-- 38- Refuting Mormonism.-- 49- Exegesis of Matthew 7-21.


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Who knows? But normally speaking, it's a good church. I would recommend it. Okay? Alright, that sounds like a great time. Alright.

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Chuck, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How you doing? Hey. It's going, man. It's going.

What are you doing, buddy? I'm curious. I read a book by about the Great Awakening and Jonathan Edwards debated. So John see a lot up in Boston. And he was congregated on. But I'm wondering if they went Unitarian yet.

I don't know. I don't know anything about that debate. I do know about Jonathan Edwards. He was a world class level genius. That's on the level Einstein, you know, and Isaac S. I mean, not as much but Isaac Newton, that kind of level of work, world class. So because he was so brilliant, stunningly brilliant.

I just cannot see even the possibility of him losing any debate. He's that brand. Right. Right. Yes. Yes.

Jonathan Edwards was defending the new light, which were the people who are probably saved through the Great Awakening. Okay. Yeah.

So to see and stuff, but I don't know too much about it. So I couldn't tell you too much. You know, I just don't know. Yeah, I was just curious. And I because I know you've been talking about Unitarianism a little bit lately. Yeah, it's been coming up more and more.

And it's rearing its ugly demonic head. Yes. Hey, there's a break. Okay. All right.

See, God bless. Hey, folks, five open lines. Why don't you give me a call?

877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show. Hope you're enjoying the show. If you want to call me, four open lines, 877-207-2276.

It's more a concept. Norm from Winston, you're on the air. Hello, Matt. How are you? I'm fine. How are you? Doing good.

Doing good. So I've heard you in the past talk about, when you're talking about different things, and I can't really put my finger on, I don't remember exactly what you were talking about, vertical things and horizontal things. Oh, yes, vertical and horizontal.

Yeah. Do you have any, I read a science fiction, Christian science fiction book a while back, Discipling Nitra. And the characters had several conversations where they brought up vertical and horizontal.

Do you have any recommendations on, I like the concept and I'd like to read more on it. In what we're talking about in the biblical theology, vertical is between God and man, horizontal is between man and man. That's all. So vertical, and when, for example, in Romans chapter four, we'll find out that Paul is speaking of the vertical, the relationship between God and man. He says, well, then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, corn of the flesh is found, for Abraham was justified by works.

He has something to boast about, but not before God. Now, that's Abraham and God are the topics, so that's vertical. And when you go to James, James two, for example, it's an example of the horizontal. There it says, but someone may well say, you have faith and I have works. Show me your faith without the works.

I will show you my faith by my works. So that's the horizontal. And that's all that's being spoken of. Okay. Okay. Yep. Uh, anything, do you know of any authors that, that bring the horizontal and vertical up specifically, uh, anything or three?

No. I've written a novel, uh, a sci-fi novel and a fiction novel, two different novels. Uh, but I don't deal with, uh, in the fiction Christian based novel, I don't deal with what's called the vertical and horizontal, uh, that way specifically. But that's all it is. That's just it. That's all the concept is, is for example, your justification before God.

How's it does it occur? Well, it's by faith only in Christ only what Christ alone has done. That's how you're vertically justified the vertical relationship, the vertical issue, the horizontal is, well, how am I made right before people by what I do? They don't know my heart.

They have to see my actions. So that's the difference. That's what's going on.

The cults and false religions like Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, they can, they confuse the vertical and horizontal and they'll say that both lead to justification. Ah, good point. Yeah. Cool. All right.

Well, thank you very much. All right. Sounds good. Yep. All right.

Well, God bless. All right. Okay. All right. So yeah, I've written a sci-fi novel, um, called time trap. You, if you're interested in it, I wonder what happened. Let me see if I do this right now.

Cause I don't check. Uh, if you go to website, the homepage, there's a graphic that shows my books and then it'll take you to another place. And, uh, let's see, I guess, yeah, there they are. They're in there.

Time trap is in there. And, um, but I don't, Oh, the influence, the audio version is there, but we don't have, uh, the written one, which I'm reworking. Anyway, we're just trying a bunch of stuff. And so there you go. If you want to check it out. All right.

Nobody's waiting. If you want to give me a call, you can get in and all you gotta do is dial 8772072276. If you've read time trap, give me a call. Tell me what you thought of it. If you've read the influence, give me a call. Let me know what you thought of it. And if you've read atheistica, my novella, um, please, uh, let me know what you thought about it.

I'd like to know, but just like to know, not a big deal. I get other books too. Apologetics and atheism, uh, notes on Calvinism, right answers for wrong belief. That's out of print Christian defense manual. Um, yeah, there we go.

And, uh, we have examining Islam. Oh boy. And we, yeah, we have, uh, let us, we have, Oh man, that's gotta be okay. Good. Fix some things here. We got to do some stuff. Yep. There's so much to do. Man.

There's a lot. All right. Let's get to Bob from Louisiana. Bob, welcome here on the air. Yeah. Thank you, Matt.

You should recognize divorce. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. And I would, I would like to talk about Zachariah and John, if you don't mind. Okay. All right. What about Zachariah?

He was the father of, uh, John. Oh, that Zachariah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That Zachariah, the father of John.

He's, he's the one that was, you know, working in the temple at Jerusalem when Gabriel showed up and, and he, he wasn't real smart because I know this would be so he didn't get to talk for awhile. You know, you familiar with that. I know.

Yeah. But, but his mouth went when the baby was born and he asked, you know, for something to write on after having none of his relatives named John. And, uh, anyway, immediately, uh, they were wondering, you know, when he began to talk after writing John on that piece of paper, what I was trying to get at is then Zachariah was filled with the Holy Spirit and prophesied say, let's be the Lord God of Israel for he has visited us and accomplished redemption for his people and has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of David, his server. Isn't he talking about John here? I did look at the verse, what verse I'm waiting for you to, I wasn't sure what you're getting at.

So I wasn't following you exactly. So what verse are you looking at? Uh, verse 68 of Luke 1. Luke 1, Luke 68.

Blessed be the Lord God of Israel for he has visited. Okay. So father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Spirit and prophesied saying, okay, blessed be the Lord God of Israel for his visitors and us accomplished redemption for his people and raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of David, his servant. Yes.

Okay. Isn't he talking about John? No, he's talking about Jesus because that's the horn of salvation, the house of David, his servant, that's what's going on. Are you sure?

Well, let me look at the context here. The eighth day, the circumcised child, we should call his name John. Um, and they said, no one's relatives by that name. He asked for a tablet and wrote his name is John.

At once his mouth was opened, long tongue loosed. A fear came over all of them. Um, and it was being talked about in Judea. All who heard them kept them in mind saying what then will this child turn out to be for the land of the Lord was surely on him and his father Zacharias, which the Holy Spirit prophesied saying, blessed be the Lord God of Israel for his visit us and accomplished a redemption for his people and raised up a horn of salvation. I could see why you would, you could ask the question, is it talking about John the Baptist?

But no, it's not. Um, the horn of salvation has to be Jesus. And what was going on is that Zacharias simply prophesied.

It wasn't prophesying about John the Baptist. All right. And, uh, so that's it.

Now there's another issue though. I want to get to you after the break because we're going to break. So hold on buddy.

Four open lines. You want to give me a call 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call 877-207-2276. Let's get back on with Bob. Bob, are you there? Uh, yes.

Yes, Matt. And I'm still looking at this, these verses in the NASB. I have the answer for you.

Okay. So, uh, if you look at it, you'll see that it goes on. He's prophesying salvation from our enemies. Verse 72 to show mercy to our fathers. Verse 73, the oath verse 75 in holiness, righteousness verse 76. And you child will be called the prophet of the most high for you will go before the Lord to prepare his ways. So it's a prophecy that's encompassing the issue of who Christ is, what he's doing, what he's done, or what he will do, excuse me, and, uh, John the Baptist. And so then he addresses the child, John the Baptist, he said, and says, you will be called the prophet of the most high and you'll go before, uh, before the Lord God to prepare his ways. So that's what's going on.

Okay. So this, this prophet, this child is gone, right? Yes. And he's blessing the Lord God of Israel, right? The child's blessing the Lord God. Um, no, John, uh, John is blessing when he prophesied blessed be in, in verse 68 Zachariah is doing that.

Yeah. Zachariah is doing that concerning his child. This Jesus hadn't even been born yet. He don't know nothing about Jesus. Jesus was alive.

He was just in the womb still. Okay. Um, so, uh, blessed be the God of Israel. It's not that a person is blessing God and God's benefited from it.

It's just a phrase. May the Lord be glorified, but don't glorify the Lord. Bless the Lord. Praise his name. That's, that's what's going on. All right. But if we get confused on who the Lord God of Israel is, we got a problem. Hadn't yeah, that's right. And doesn't it say that, uh, John the Baptist will prepare the way for, uh, for, for the Lord.

Right? No, he's going to prepare the way for Israel to be forgiveness of sins. It says in verse 77, it says in verse 76 and you child, well, let's get to 76. Hey, hey, hey, hey, let's look at the verses in context. Okay.

Yes. Don't continue to ignore them. Like you always do. And you will be called the prophet of the most high. That's John the Baptist for you. John, the Baptist will go before the Lord to prepare his ways.

That's what it says. Right? So John, the Baptist is going before the Lord. Right? Right. Yeah.

Okay. That's a quote from Malachi three one where God says, behold, I'm going to send my messenger. That's John the Baptist. And he will clear the way before me. And the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple and the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight behold his coming says Yahweh of hosts. So he says, proclaiming the way of, of himself. That's God.

Jesus has gotten flush. So are you going to repent now? And you're going to come to believe the truth about who Christ is? Not if I, since I read chapter two, I can't.

Yeah, you can. So who is John the Baptist preparing the way for? Uh, the most high. Yeah. It says the Lord most high God, right? No, he's a prophet of the most high God. Yes. John the Baptist is a prophet of the most high for you will go before me the Lord to prepare his ways.

Okay. Who's John the Baptist preparing the way for? Who's he preparing the way for? Who's John the Baptist? Who is John the Baptist preparing the way for? The Lord God of Israel. Good. And he prepared the way for Jesus. Okay.

He prepared the way for the look. It says it right there. Okay. We're going to move on.

Okay. Um, uh, yeah, it's just this guy, folks, if you don't know, I debated him to talk about this endlessly. I proved him wrong. Uh, he just can't see, refuse to see. He's just lost.

Uh, sorry, but that's what it is. Ed from Virginia. Ed, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, man, I know I'm doing all right. Just dealing with heresies and people don't listen, don't care.

Don't want to know that guy calls all the time. Oh, come on. And then, you know, and then when I show him the very thing, it says, prepare the way for it's for Yahweh. And that's Lord God. Well, that's Jesus.

You're preparing weight. Well, what do you mean? You know, and he just ignores it. Just like, Oh yeah. What are you going to say? You know? Okay.

You put up a lot of stuff there. Could you write, could you write my, my email down? I'd like you to send me a couple of things. Good.

It's wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You want everybody to know your email? You just went into thousands of people in here. It's junk mail, but I'll check it for you. Okay.

Well, what is your email then? MYBY. MY what? BY. C as in cat? B as in boy. So MYBY what? R Y?

R I D E R. R I D E R. Yes. At Gmail. At Gmail. Okay. Then what do you want? Okay. A couple of questions. Last week you were talking about Mormonism and you said there was, I don't know if it was a document or something that you would show Mormon elders who would come to your door and they basically would drop the faith.

Well, kind of, it was used to destroy the faith of a lot of people. Okay. And it's a 3,913 changes in the book of Mormon. Okay. Okay.

And you can, 3,913. Yeah, that's it. That's right. And it's, and I don't know if, see that. Okay. I'd look for it.

See if you can find it. Now what's happening into the book. Yes.

And it's what it is. It's from Sandra Gerald and Sandra Tanner. Okay. And Sandra just retired.

Gerald passed away years ago and the bookstores closed. Everything's okay. Now this is where you get this stuff, but there's kind of a transition thing going on. I'm not going to say too much, but there's, there's kind of a transition thing going on.

I know some people and stuff down there, blah, blah, blah. So this book was done. Sandra told me that what she did was she and Gerald, they had a literal actual first edition book of Mormon. The very first is original. Okay. And I've held one in my hand.

Bill McKeever, a friend of mine, used to have one or has one or whatever. And, uh, so, uh, so what Gerald and Sandra did was they got the then contemporary book of Mormon and the original, and they photo, photo Xeroxed copy back then it was photocopied and they, uh, would read the original and they would parallel it through the attack to the then present book of Mormon. They'd mark changes. And some of them are drastic. And so the 3,913 changes documents it.

The reason this is important is history of the church volume four, page 461, I think it is the book of Mormon was the most correct book of any book on earth and a man could get closer to the precepts of God by following it than by any other book. So if it's so correct, why does it have so many changes? In fact, Sandra told me there's a lot more changes. They didn't even put everything in there.

Like a couple of small, or at least a lot of very small things, but she said, there's more, there's a lot more. And so that's the, the 3,913 changes. So what I would do, I'd show it to Mormon missionaries and say, so your books are accurate. Yeah, look at this.

And I just hand it to them and they'd fan through it. And they would see these changes all over the place. And in some places, the changes are dramatic. They alter the meaning of the text dramatically.

So why is it so good? You can send me the author's name and the name of the book. I'd appreciate that. Well, it's just, it's, it's, I don't think there's an author to it. It's just Jolden Sandra Tanner. And you could go on, um, the UTLM, Utah Lighthouse Ministry,, and you can, the website's still up and you can look it up and see if you can order it. I don't know if it's still being run yet right now, but that's it. I would get that.

It's very powerful. Okay. Let me type that in. Utah Lighthouse Ministry.

And another question, I don't know if you can help you. I was listening to a preacher today and he was talking about how there are many doctrines, Mormon doctrines that aren't in the book of Mormon. And he was mentioning quite a few and I'm like, oh, of course you have a list of that.

Oh yes. If you go to the website, uh, and, uh, let's see, forward slash Mormonism, um, I have a list of many of them and let's see, uh, let's see, let's see the Book of Mormon text, Book of Mormon, some of the many changes. Uh, where is it? I've got it there.

I haven't been on the page in a long time. I've written over a hundred articles on Mormonism, uh, and they're, they're there. Think of, you know, the Book of Mormon, Book of Mormon text, quick look at the Book of Mormon.

I think that's what it is. Quick look at the Book of Mormon. Let's see. And, uh, yeah.

Yeah. And there's, okay. So some of the things not found in the Book of Mormon, church organization, plurality of God, plurality of wives, doctrine, uh, word of wisdom. God is an exalted man, celestial marriage.

Men may become gods, three degrees of glory, baptism for the dead, eternal progression, the Aaronic priesthood, temple works of washing, anointing, endowments and sealing. Hey, we'll be right back after these messages. Ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Ed. Are you still there, Ed?

Yes, we're there. Okay. Are you a Mormon or what?

Just curious. Who me? Oh no, I'm a born again believer. Okay, good. I think the priest, uh, I'm not, I could be mistaken, but I thought the preacher said something about in the Book of Mormon, it says, Jesus is God. Maybe, I don't know. I might've misheard it.

Yeah. The Book of Mormon does not contain a lot of Mormonism. Uh, it's, uh, uh, really kind of interesting because if you go to my article, a quick look at the Book of Mormon on the CARM website, you see the documentation. For example, the Book of Mormon said there's only one God. The Trinity is one God. God is unchanging. God is spirit. There's an eternal hell.

Polygamy is condemned. But Mormonism teaches the contrary to those things, believe it or not. As far as it saying, Jesus is God.

Um, uh, they did pray into Jesus calling him their Lord and their God. And that's, uh, oh man, it's been a long time to quote that one. Second Nephi, 1918.

I think, let's see if I'm pulling that out. Uh, right. Uh, Nephi, second Nephi, 1918. Um, oh man, I don't know. I don't think that's the right one, but it does say, uh, they call him their Lord and their God. Jesus, their Lord and their God. Where is that? Okay.

I'll find it. Man, I hate it. They have to call him their Lord and God. It does say that in the Book of Mormon. Why?

I haven't talked to Mormons very much at all. And I'd forgotten about that one and it is there. So I'll find it. Sometimes a friend of mine, uh, Charlie, he'll find it before I do.

So we'll see if he's putting it in anywhere. I don't see anything, but I'll look for it here. I'll find it. Okay. Okay. All right.

Uh, saying, saying, let's see Jesus, uh, calling as, as calling Jesus or Lord and God calling Jesus, Lord and God. All right. Come on. Oh, it's there. I'm going to have to find it. And, um, I thought it was maybe it's third Nephi, 1918.

I mean, that's what it is. Third Nephi, 1918. Trying to remember all these things in my head. Yes. Found it. That's what it is instead of the, um, so, uh, third Nephi, 1918.

Oh, man, I could click on the wrong thing. So here, let's get to it. I'll read it. Okay.

Third Nephi, 1918. Come on. Okay. Now I'm scrolling. Here we go. Oh, you slimeball. I talk to my computers when they don't do it.

I want to call them slime balls and things like that. Uh, and behold, they began to pray. They did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God. Third Nephi, 1918. Okay. It took a while. Okay. Great. All right. All right. I'll let you go. I'm on the road.

I'm working. So, uh, thank you very much. Okay. Sounds good, man. You too. God bless. All right. Let's get to Ahmed from Arizona.

Ahmed, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, how you doing? Doing all right. So what do you got, man? All right.

So she's going to put you on the spot here a little bit. Um, let me keep you open up your Bible. You had to be Matthew seven. Okay. Uh, Matthew seven, 21. Okay. I get to read that.

And then when it says to me, Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father, who's in heaven will enter. Yeah. Because if they purposely don't vote because of their ambivalence or apathy, they think it's useless. Then they are not utilizing the God given gift that they have. And I believe it's a failure.

Now it's, you know, they're sick. They can't vote. That's different. But if you just say, I'm not going to vote, I don't feel like it. Okay. Then the Bible says, Jesus says, give to Caesar that belongs to Caesar, go vote and don't complain. Then if the unbelievers come into your house and say, you can't have guns, you can't have a Bible, you can't go to church. Don't complain at that point.

We still not here. Let's see. Absolutely. Absolutely. I agree.

Um, because if we don't and we don't go to the right people who God has put on our hearts to be the right people, then our nation is already fallen. It's going to fall even further and we're going to lose it. Don't know if you guys can hear me. Can you hear me? Um, absolutely. And that's so scary, man. I mean, I, I, I just, it looks like they went down and that, you know, if we don't get the right people in office, I'm with you, you know, I, you, I can, I don't know how old you are, but I'm in my sixties. I've seen so much. I've seen what's happened.

And I've seen in the past, basically two, three years, how fast it went bad. I used to think when I was younger, I'm going to see the return of Christ, you know, the anti-Christ and all this stuff's going to happen. I'll see the return of Jesus. And then for a long time, I said, nah, it's going to happen way after I pass away.

And now I'm starting to wonder, wait a minute, maybe I will see it in my time. The anti-Christ is, it looks like he's getting ready because of what's happening. Unrighteousness, evil, wickedness are just so prevalent. And it's all around us. I don't understand how any preacher could not occasionally, you know, not into all the time, mention the necessity of us fighting against unrighteousness.

I just get the idea that it's God's in control, so we need to do nothing. I mean, when God sent, when he freed Israel out of the slavery of Egypt, he had to, he not had to, but he did it by punishing people over a period of time. And then he caused the people to, yeah. And he caused them to walk. They had to walk through the deliverance.

It took a long time. People say, no, we're doing it right now. Yeah. So, you know, I have a lot of friends. We would do what's necessary, but too many people just don't. And you, and we have to risk. Righteousness is not easy.

We got to fight against what's happening in our country. No, it's not, you know. Well, you know, I'm, I'm 57 years old and I got saved when I was 28. And, um, I lived for God for 10 years and then I back slipped for a very long time. And then I, I've just recently come back to know him and what a glorious day that was because I, I know, you know, now that you're, you've been out in the world, you know, when you're young, you might give your heart to Christ when you're young at Vacation Bible School, but you don't really, you're so innocent. You don't really know what he's saving you from until you get out into the world. And then once you get out into the world and you've lived it, then you know what he's saving you from when you actually go to that altar and you actually pour your heart out and you actually ask for forgiveness. And then, you know what he's saving you from because you've lived in the world. That's when I consider myself truly saved when I was 28. And, um, and, and I praise God every day that he waited on me and he brought me back to him. And, you know, that I did go and vote the midterms and I voted for who I thought was right.

And, um, I didn't, he can trust me. It wasn't, it wasn't the left. It wasn't the wrong people. Um, you know, it wasn't these demons that they have in, in, in politics now. And that's what I think.

That's what I think it is. I think these people are, I think they have demons in them. I think they're part of the crew of the Antichrist. I think when the Antichrist reveals themselves, these people will be involved. They'll approve of him.

Yeah. Think about this. The people who are in power don't care about truth because truth and money to them are commodities and that gives them what they desire. And so because of that, they have no integrity. They're open to corruption. They get in control by lies and they're in control and then they subtly work to destroy those who stand against them. And we know that's the case.

Then what they do is they free the wicked and punish the good. This we're seeing this in our culture. It's happening more and more. A young girl, she didn't want a transgender. It's a guy who claims to be a girl.

He wants to go in the girls' locker room in the high school and watch him undress. She complained about it. They kicked her out of school. The father who worked there said, well, she has a right to vote.

They got rid of him. This is wickedness. What at this point needs to happen is you need to sue everybody involved for everything you can get from them.

Everything maximum. Yep. And it needs to happen all over the place. This is why we need a national kind of a registry where Christians can support where we can say, okay, lawsuit there.

But you know what? There are already Christian organizations who are involved with this. Lawyer organizations, legal fund. We need to support them.

Give money to them. And so they can hire more lawyers to go out there and do this. But it needs to happen all the time. And Christians need to be out in front of like, for example, that school with science saying, what are you doing? You know, you want your kid to go in there, you know, and undress.

I don't want anybody to be like, I'll tell you, if my daughter was in there and they said, oh, we're going to have a guy who claims to be a girl now going in there watching your daughter undress. Well, we'd have a conversation. That's all I'll say. Oh, definitely. Definitely.

And we have a conversation. That's horrible. And it's every day that you wake up in the morning, every day, it continues to get worse and worse. You're right. And it's going to get worse if we Christians don't fight back.

That's right. It's not a pre-trib rapture thing. I tell people, don't put your hope in the pre-trib rapture. I would be glad to have a public debate on the pre-trib rapture stuff. Not to prove how right I am, but to get people to wake up.

Don't assume that's the right position. If anything, what Jesus says, when you see this, run to the hills. He says, run. And he also says, there must be, before the Antichrist comes, there's an apostasy that's going to come. What's the apostasy of? The Christian church.

And the apostasy is occurring. And I got a question for the pastors, if you're listening. Are you equipping your congregation for the work of ministry? That's what your job is, Ephesians 4, 8 through 12.

Read that. The job of the pastor is to equip the Christians for the work of ministry. That's what you're supposed to do. That's what you're supposed to do.

Is that what's happening? Or are you teaching them how to be comfortable at home? And just pray, don't do anything.

Are you teaching them, hey, as a pastor and elder, I will be out in front of the abortion clinic on Saturday at such and such a time, join me. Or I'm going to be out over here, join me. Yeah.

These things happen. I know for sure I would be standing right there in front, I'd be right there with them telling them not to, that is just nothing but murder, straight up murder. And you know, God is not going to, he's not going to wait forever to come back. No, he's not. He's not going to wait forever. I mean, I'm surprised he's waited this long. I'm really surprised he's waited this long, but he's waiting until that last person gives their life to the Lord, gives their life to him. That's what he's waiting on. He's trying to give everybody a chance. He's wanting, he's wanting everybody to have that chance to save his colleagues. Another program powered by the Truth Network.
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