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July 28, 2022 6:25 pm

Matt Slick Live

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July 28, 2022 6:25 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Topics include---1- Matt contrasts the Christian view of the Bible with various other groups, such as Roman Catholics or Oneness Pentecostals.--2- Have you ever heard of St. Patrick's purgatory---3- Is it a sign of demonic influence in Pentecostal groups when people are convulsing, etc.---4- Can you explain how works are related to salvation---5- Do you think we will need food or water in eternity---6- If Christ has forgiven us, why will believers appear at the judgement seat of Christ---7- I'm in a church where people say they are prophets but things they say do not happen. What should I do-

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Why is it apologetic to research what is thought a lot you have questions about Bible doctrine why Grimes is called responding to your questions and we match day. The focus of yesterday during the show lost we would have a lot of Internet problems or my house so we can on your view of the Internet and so I called up the company I should look this can keep happening good so you know it's just just that dog food was in a tech out all these things, they sent me a new modem check connections they got stuff so I'm just telling you is that hey were working to try to get things going fine and all that stuff and hopefully your billing will be fine and coincidently don't have trouble with my with my headset things. It won't all doubt connects you okay.

You know, it just happens. Hey if you want to give me a call. All you have to do is dial 877-207-2276 okay then all right.

As usual, you know I'm always working on something. I guess my ideas I do stuff. I like study and I wish I had time for a doctorate degree. I don't but I wish I did money and all the cost of so you know I was in bed last night I was thinking because I do debates and I do things with different groups and one of the things I started working on a few days ago was to do is is describe it I will take my Bible program and I will do a search and see how I see this search for the phrase in the name in the name and find every single instance of that phrase in the entire Bible. For example, got them listed.

I'm looking at right now. Got about 5070. I think that what I do is I go through.

Hopefully, excuse me, I go through and say what it is I have a table and on.I recall a column on the rights of each verse and I go through and analyze what's going on what's happening here not phrase like Deuteronomy 18 five for the Lord your God has chosen him and his sons from all your tribes to stand and serve in the name of the Lord forever.

So it's in the name of her has the authority to, and in the issue is to serve it's all going through and finding that there's a lot of different usages of that phrase. No why my doing, because I talk to people and cults. Now you know I know that I'm cut out for this kind of work because I get fascinated by looking at a phrase I want to look in the word of God and see how does God use this phrase. How does God use this word not done many, many studies like this take me hours and I learned that when I do that because there's a cults oneness Pentecostal group and no Savior baptized in the name of Jesus in order to be saved in the name of all right, which means you can say the name of the father-son Holy Spirit, but in the name of Jesus has been the phrase in the name of Jesus and they don't understand it in the name of his designation of authority so I can do a study like that.

Another study I'm doing is doing this a good interesting to I'm looking forward to finishing this one, but the in Catholicism of Mormonism goes with the surcease and orthodoxy is a all say that faith and works are necessary for salvation, then they say that faith has to have works and is not just faith but it's faith that has to be real faith that does things. James talks about not explain a figure of course you can't have what's called essential just mere mental assent.

You have to have the do shop which is trust in the belief in trust and so I'll tell them that it is really interesting particular with the Catholics in the Eastern Orthodox because they submit the word of God to their church to their organization or structure history and they are entrenched in that philosophy. They have not. They cannot see what I'm saying it's really interesting and I'm thinking about you in a debate on my next debates will have with Musick. Can you please explain my position during cross-examination. One of you would understand what they think they understand it because the things they say just don't make any sense they deny salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. It has to be by faith and works, but that the works are the works God gives us but don't do the work to Disable or not say, by the works when I thought of doing was going and I did a search through four searches and I combined them into I can export them into Excel and then once in Excel I can I can do stuffing to teach Excel if it were my jobs to software and so I used to use it all the time and gloves connect really cool things in an Excel Excel is a fantastic program so I'll take these things out them in Excel and then I can sort them I can do stuff then what I do is I transfer them into a program cleans up the code and then put it into HTML at Bible so that I can go in and look at what's happening in the phraseology of any instance. This is what's interesting any instance.

For example, where is Paul uses justification and or salvation and or faith and or works and/or law.

Any combination of those words in a verse or a couple of verses and the reason is because I want to see how Paul uses them. Does he combine them or does he separate them and that's what I'm finding out I'm finding out that in some verses. For example, since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith in the circle uncircumcised site through faith is one last issue justification assessed by faith, but also we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. So here we have a section or verse where it's faith or justification by faith apart from and so there doesn't seem to be any place where he combines them with a 2 mL.

This is the kind of stuff. I'm studying and I enjoy it, and though I tell my wife usually study well and doing a compilation of the table and sorted through Excel on the issue of the way she just stares at me like you know I'm talking Chinese and she has no I do have the she was well okay that's nice. Talk to you later is okay good to go study so know why she can see the great joy is what I'm doing and I'm learning stuff and I'm also developing another table on the word Jesus and father or son and father were all those verses occur in the New Testament, and seeing what the relationship is because I debate people and oneness they want to say that Jesus is the father but yet Jesus prays to the father.

Jesus praises the father. The father hands all things to Jesus the son reveals the father.

The father reveals the truth to assignment the father alone. No psychotic like I things that I think are interesting so there you go.

That's the kinda guy you're listening to her on the radio. I know I probably think glad you're doing it, not me. It's okay. Hey, we have topological give me a call 877-207-2276 Elijah from Pennsylvania and welcome you on the air. I don't do it all right hanging in there by God's grace meant what he got.

But wanted to act but have you ever heard of. Think Patrick purgatory. No St. Patrick's purgatory. Yeah, you might want to look that up. I found out about the your guilt went out like that documentary on the history Channel is called the gates of hell and they were talking about all you know the what will be difficult. Believe in eight or what about help from Christianity, Islam flights like other Greek mythology audit and and they brought up think Patrick purgatory, which is a island in the Republic of Ireland and on the island of the Catholic Cathedral in the end of they believe that Christ showed think Patrick is a and a thump, thump, refer to the pit are well on on baking island and it was believe that this was the entrant to purgatory and what they teach here at this particular Catholic Church.

They think that if you take a pilgrimage to this fight you complete the pilgrimage time in your life you will never go to hell that they teach here wow that's a lot of crud superstition. Yeah if you could make a pilgrimage to go to hell.

What else I don't need Jesus known faith and trust in Christ and that's pretty whacked just looking at that. That is, from looking up.

Yeah it's a cave, whatever monasteries there will such is no such thing as purgatory. Anyway was on the Bible so minutes is doubly wrong. Wow, that's interesting, though never heard of it. Now I have heard of it.

Appreciate that, while the edit going to bring to your attention a logical case number yeah now I know I have things back when I was in Turkey flying for four years ago or so. We did a tour from Turk Turkey and also in Israel. We went to a certain place, with mostly caves that according into their lead to hell.

Canceled three different places that have different things effect this place from her correctly for the name of it there's sulfur that comes out you could die from it to something like it and all the volcanic whatever is the gist of the event and so people can go in and I can pick and I must be bad, must be held so just superstition sodas a well interesting though now I know I have a you I love you so much searching the library return it during the church and I know I know that you have learned that spiritual gifts that they and MMR church.

I'll be due partly the spiritual gift. You know I I am the gift of tongues looking at the end of 2020 and I and my church when not what 1010. We prayer with my you know what you think you know you know you know nothing. Craig ever happened like that will never off the ground and start opening and stuff like that. You break only we had to say.

So hold on break apart like they falsely write back after these messages. Elijah from Pennsylvania to open mind. If you want to give me a call 8772072765770776 charismatic slave back to the show to open lines 877-207-2276 Elijah all right sober talk about charismatic stuff okay go ahead will will will know much searching.

Erin, we believe, in part, and lead her to get in. I would be the gift of tongues to the end of 2020. A knowledgeable day.

You know what whatever my church blade angle people pray for them to get the five you know you know nothing ever crazy habit where people find out if start convulsing and know stuff like that though, but what are you not been a lot of video YouTube of former wanted out with a bath at their church to land 120 lay hands on few of their and then get the gift of speaking in tongues. A lot of bill all out know and will start no convulsing and all that stuff.

Now I don't know that had been at all. Pentecostal 1000 circuit but you know your question about my yet yet. My question would be, think, think all that will house will have a full God. They were full of gospel.

You also believe that they have a dog the other day have the wrong spirit or or demonic spirit that the this will be reading Scripture we file will people you both the grout article think that by of demonic possession yeah so a lot there so I won't say that something does. I decided that we demonically possessed because you can have people who are psychologically susceptible to that kind of behavior. When I went to the United Pentecostal Church on Friday last week to reach David K. Bernard, one guy wonders. I watched what they did and they they jumped, danced and ran.

Now it wasn't them rolling on the floor. They were screaming.

They were very excited very exuberant. I could see that having a different cultural context be acceptable. You might have some culture on an island. You could be have it someplace in the jungle it just some city in some I don't know some country that in all that work. That kind of stuff is what people does do it wouldn't mean that they were moderately possessed a good manager just doing the real stuff that could mean that there's demonic presence as well, but discerning those is very difficult to have that discernment of spirit so you know it's tough. It is a tough thing. I do believe the charismatic gifts.

I do believe in all of them for today but I don't believe in and this wacko idiocy that occurs that is just ridiculous, but I don't see things scrupulous as aggressive ceased my position all about? What okay sounds good. Keep listening, but he okay are you going on my life. Okay, let's get to know well from Virginia hey Noel, welcome your on the all right hanging in there.

Hopefully the Internet stay up will see what he would not elaborate, but work as I know, I'm having a Catholic background you know you know how work that they felt when you are right where it looking like a elaborate censure is mental assent this with the devil. This is what demonic forces do they just acknowledge that God exists.

So essential is like a mental acknowledgment for do show is a trust, a putting a trust and confidence in so someone might have might have belief that God exists but doesn't trust God, but have believe that Christ lived with us and put trust and faith in his crucifixion and resurrection trust what Jesus did and so that would be the difference between essential just acknowledgment and fiduciary, which is trust and so for do show works with regeneration are trust works with regeneration because we are regenerated and we believe there concomitant and I believe in with ecological priority of regeneration, proceeding, faith, and that are not temporally distinct but they are simultaneously's offense, but one is logically prior to the other regeneration must be there at the same time in order for us to be able to believe because the unbeliever cannot receive the things of God, etc. and so God regenerates us and simultaneously we believe regeneration is the cause of our belief and so it's logical priority and likewise regeneration is the cause of our good works and faith is what we profess and works are what we do and so they should match. This is why this is a first onto the floor that if you say you know him and don't keep his commandments. The truth is not in you and your liar.

If you say you're a Christian and there's no works. That's essential you're saying it but is nothing there if I could. Demonic forces can believe that God exists, but they don't have a good works that show it so's it's the least they have call essential fiducial that's the difference that help one like I sure struggle with. Of course, because were sinners. Of course we do.

And the thing is that our accorded James, let's see; James because this really is. It's good stuff here.

It says this yet is due to James to 22 you see that faith was working with his work since Abraham is a result of the works, faith was perfected. So Abraham even had his faith worked on and polished by God and through Abraham's works so as we go through our Christian lives. Hopefully we learn more and more how to trust in our Lord and we look back on bios five times are really tough. He delivered us good. My wife and I you know and so the works of going through and professing and living proof have perfected my faith in Christ made it like to say that English more better and is improved. It is to have more confidence and that was going on, and so our works are the result of regeneration. Good works are people don't realize that we behave based on what you believe. If someone's unregenerate doctor believe and trust in God and their works be related to that true belief has to work. Regeneration okay Noel RI will come last thank you, all right, they have three of the line to give a call 77207 mass Y call 77077 charismatic back to the show three of the lines may call on you to do is dilate 720-7227 certificate to Gary from Ohio very welcome running. You want to rent by I don't. It is in the Bible. I would listen to a factor that I enjoy it.as David Jeremiah is good and yet you manifesto fascinated unbelievable money to go back and look the video up in the beta, but he was mentioning our resurrected body. They said that we will eat we won't need food we eat as we won't need water. They want to say that no blood is 90% water that we won't need food or water. You most probably we do these thing IN our physical body now to sustain the energy of our body, but in the resurrection.

The implication is that God will be our source.

We will need to eat some speculative that we can eat but then think about that. If we can eat into resurrected bodies do we have to face a restroom so I have some of these are all the speculations so I don't city violated speculative okay is very speculative and got data.

Yeah, I got one and I know I didn't know what and if anything about what you just told me what it at that. The Bible expect and so will not good well they operated think that I have a problem. I got lucky and are hey if you leave the caller but we have for the lines and no waiting for you. Give me a call 87776 the schedule say from Texas.

Amen welcome you on the magnet very good. All right's and we got to find out that Netflix and that other than that the matter but I'm it even cried and cried.

Forgive the price gate with Bart Wyatt that believers are a thin judge. I get the right.

I do believe is correct or that it was good to say here we list all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds and the body according to what he has done, whether good or bad, so that second Corinthians 510. It does not mean that that's what is judgment for salvation. It's reward loss of reward based on what we've done with what God has granted to us. Okay another word and deed of the people are going to write that I it only believer that all men who ever lived.

It looks like it could be everybody we must all says so the Christians are going to face God for the judgment of what we have done and have rewards or loss rewards in heaven with we've got a lot of good. Not very much good it won't have any bearing on whether or not were justified.

Justification occurs by faith apart from works 328 Romans 45 so this is about rewards for good and bad deeds, so it makes sense to say that this very same thing will happen to the unbelievers. I forgot with the verse also says the deed with many stripes and some with you.

So the idea of the afterlife punishment is that they're going to have different degrees of punishment so if you have a little old lady who's just been baking cookies for everybody. Her whole life really sweet lady and she denies Christ assessed believe in him and she dies she can go to hell if you have a gang leader who, and we could list out all kinds of evils disguise committed for decades and he dies.

He's also going to, but his punishment will be worse than hers. And people will be punished date on their work and we will from Mark's right half of a fella that you mentioned earlier in the call that you know are our work work exactly like our good works, not sure exactly on the log. You said you think that I get word come from where we believe otherwise we place our faith in Christ, then they would look mildly depend on who will believe I actually like that would be Saturday at the Evan article about that second lady anymore body or anything that so I just reflect of relationship to faith and works. I'm sorry you mentioned third year back that we place our faith in Christ that would be good works are still not like that lately.

You mentioned how easily a believer could be a bad word. You know, the nonbelieving Christ or whatever the case is though it automates you believe, I think there mentioned earlier, after exactly laid out good karma. Look up the search engine faith and works towards punishment. You'll find varying articles that are there. That's what I recommend you do is go there. In fact, I'm looking in the stream yard because I often put stuff in which was hit by faithful works to as were the links was relationship to faith and works. There's a S article). What is the relationship to faith and works like a check that would affect arm because there is a relationship rests right right all right not yet been Bernard Beatty at all like 40 many ways from latte like I'm gonna email him probably this but of the week and give him time to settle in from being here in Idaho and offered to have the debate again. I'm sure he'll deny it and are not denied that they don't want to do it and but maybe I can have a discussion with him right. But the thing is, I noticed that I had a discussion with him before he became interruptive and it was difficult because I you that's a question I begin to answer the question and that he would cut me off and ask another question so it would last.

I got I gathered out of it was. He's accustomed to talking to people who don't have answers.

And so he'll ask a question to get stumped. It should again another another when some start coming back with answers.

He does want to hear. That is my conclusion and therefore he went to the question which I could answer everything he asked.

I could answer and expound on quite a bit but didn't want me to do that and so that was is that situation was over to have a discussion. I would say here's a thing we can let Lisa to finish her thoughts. Okay guess what? We build answer that question, not company offer or vice versa. It's all real simple one that will need for the day or whatever addictive lab building leader we go to my daughters live in Austin and all right a good good friend who lives in Austin and an atheist community is heavy in Austin. So if I were to go down there I would want to stay for a week and jags rates and maybe speak at a church or two.

They wanted me to little Bible study and not just basically I'd left some time just just cause problems. Ask questions so the pastor has a lot to do a lot of work to clean up the fund and no. I said that I'm smart but you know that I will talking arriving want you to bless okay for for five open lines. What you give me a call.

Nobody waiting 877-207-2276 you know he reminded me that I was joking around buckling and causing problems.

I like to teach. I love to teach effective in teaching tonight online on the foregoing, on clubhouse and your phone and I go in each Wednesday night I speak for couple of hours. People asked me questions going to do some teaching sometimes impromptu debates as well so I never once a youth pastor asked me to go into a Bible study group at a church return of some guy off the street and give him a hard time they didn't know who I was. Except for one guy in the Bible study did you know that I answered questions and did apologetics and so she gets anything that I was in this group dosing so good in man I messed them up. It messed them up so good but it was this by asking simple questions and I didn't why didn't deceive them, but is it what what about this, that what about this and all man that they were talking about that for years afterwards, you really really should do so. You need to study to study any rates with five allegedly call 87707 mass Y call 77077 charismatic slave back to the show. Everyone last segment of the Arjuna give me a call on 77207276 rental North Carolina welcome you here are you know I effective adaptive background and married and my wife is to go to church that more charismatic and dinosaur going to church thinking that you know I read believing that I get different today and that I don't wear the Bible and I understand there or I think secondary issue is that it was a big deal. However I noticed some sort and the Turks are going to and that what your thoughts were claiming that there are profit and finance.

They have a work God, that God told him that at a lot of people tell me that and then don't think, don't come pouring out. Maybe 80 part of it.part of Doug knee. I think the very few things profit ending out they that you know you're hearing God is not something you know fake and but perspective on the first 2014 says pursues the gifts especially prophesy, and it talks about the work of prophets in the church when he prophesies speaks to men for the edification and exhortation consolation, but he prophesies edifies the church and so there's a lot of that mentioned in the chapter so that says when you come together and one has a prophecy one has a ton to be done in order are so the continuation is an I'm assuming you said you are to see the I believe that all the charismatic gifts are for today. I don't believe there the same way held by the apostles. The apostles had certain power authority because of just being apostles of Christ directly and they could do things on command and stuff so can we prophesy well I can tell you that I've prophesied once and it came to pass, and I've had what I would consider a word of knowledge.

Once it seems to be accurate. Both of those instances not making Dr. not having my experiences, but both those instances had a profound effect on and I not saying that what my experiences have others to be but when you hear someone get up and say you know I was talking to God last night, and God told me blah blah blah another tell you really. So the infinite God of the universe decided to communicate with you and how has it going for you. Are you done crying yet. Are you you is done sobbing in the presence of God, not knowing that it is all you gay don't you your buddy God were talking last night, I get it. That kind of a flippant kind of casual thing when they say that the Bible word from God.

I believe if someone in my opinion really is from God to say something to the effect of luck because it has enforcement is 14 the church judge say I think I might have something from the Lord but I don't know if it is a could be my sinful flesh here it is. And let's look at it compared to Scripture in his assessment of this judge whether it's true or false.

And if I've spoken presumptuously, not making a prophecy missing. I think God might be saying this to be very cautious to be respectful.

I think that's preventable, and if such a person would get this wrong, say, three, four, five times in a row, then the person ought to have clued in by that time no. You're just not get my want to just settle down. If, however, things start coming to pass. Okay will then we can have the evidence that such things are from God, which is happening. Unfortunately, in the church today is to many people are submitting the word of God to their feelings and instead of holding the word of God's proper place as the final authority they want to get a word of knowledge. A tongue and interpretation of tongue or a prophecy or a teaching and they want to do these things and sometimes it's to gain respect. Sometimes the gain of self-assurance. Sometimes it's it's a to show people their spirituality. We can't read their hearts be very careful about this. If I were a pastor of a church and during a service. There was preaching and someone got up and said pastor Matt. I think I have a word from God and say all right.

Would you please then hold that back and after the service.

We'll talk about it. They said okay, sounds good. No problem. If they said no it needs to be said now I say no it does not the spirit of the of the profits is subject to the prophet so you should be able to control and if a person is not to say right now is out of order and it's a note and then have the letters talk to that person and say let's is not hosting work. So thinking to be done that way and and with great caution. It seems to me that a lot of people to move the charismatic movement don't have that caution and awe and fear that ought to be present with such things that come from God and so I think it's because respect by dropbox into going to have one thing that been thought that in the church that there are profit in the Bible who you know… What record I often felt that I and a gambler. They try to use what Donna well think that Jonah is ready that event one for me. I if that is what their book Apple you that there's any the Bible where Breck no use for speaking from God occluded you from the 18 it cannot be a failed prophecy cannot be that way. And so if it is a failed prophecy that is not from God.

As far as issue of Job goes. Let me written on this particular issue and try to find Jonah Job.

Let's see, it's Jonah 3 verses four and 10 and there is a verse third is in Jeremiah 18 eight if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil. I will relent concerning the calamity you plan to bring on so we know that God has stated and this is part of how he works. Jonah went to Nineveh and prophesied over them to be destroyed. Nineveh repented so that repentance was consistent with Jeremiah 18 eight.

If the nation against which I've spoken turns from his evil. I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it is Jeremiah 18 eight so God sang okay this was happening to you.

You guys are getting younger tornado coming an earthquake coming in a flood coming in Locust coming in. You know what Japan is again if you take all your cows away whatever steadily and that the nation says okay will we repent and got the okay to do it less false prophecy right now is not so because God is stated in Jeremiah 18 eight so they need to understand that that is part of the whole of Scripture and furthermore it was an interesting trivia is Nineveh was a seafaring culture and it was like 40 or 50 miles from the ocean and why is that it's it's it's location was away from the shore far away it was in there some theories about that about the relationship of Mars and the moon and titles title title waves, but tides that were so big they had to move their land back with her cities back away from the land. Every now and then over the ocean because the congruence of Mars and of the moon. Truly fascinating to get details about would cause a really high tide, but things changed its something else and then of the note having their eyes on the sea. Jonah came out of the belly of the fish.

And so it was speaking to them from the means by which they understood. I get more details yet just often mad why really. You play all that you have and offer you that I think you and go have dinner question.

I yet no I have other general perspective on Apple or other church I go to buyer very closely affiliated with Apple if the comment that prophesying okay okay you and you play me what you got that and had a Johnsons denied Christ is denied Christ so I would suggest that you do is go over the carpet. Org/CNA are cyclical to it was a question with new excellent information so what I would do to get a couple minutes you go to the car websites you go to minor groups and issues month ago and you go down to the category topics of an and open up new apostolic Reformation go through and read alumni looking to do on this, but it's a heretical movement. Not to say that they want to have positive profits made heretical problems with that. But there are this way of the state directly, they probably will move into a deeper apostasy moving into the New Age movement and become authoritarian and cultic problems can prophecy that is right I I assume will happen because of some of the things I've read from them and have encountered when I went to Bethel and stuff so you could go there to my website and read up on some of the quotes and I would really is.

Are you going read the physics of heaven.

Read the quotes from the physics of heaven which is a popular NAR book proved by a lot of NAR pastors and it is whacked.

I mean whacked okay call tomorrow I can just read some of the quotes in this book that summary of approved of this book. I mean, it's New Age. It is bad news wire at a lot more than intellect. I will not let you heretic you know Carmen, my goodness ugly that that's the quick car.org CAR M.Margie, okay, Christian apologetics shot okay, drag it out it up and go there and check it out. I am blessed they there's music perfect timing.

I like the Lord bless you by his grace will back on tomorrow and will talk you then. So I hope you agree. By the way I should be on clubhouse tonight two hours from now.

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