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June 20, 2022 4:35 pm
The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. Why is it apologetic to research what is thought a lot of you have questions about Bible doctrine why Grimes is called responding to your questions and remap what you want to give me a call. All 776 noted waiting right now so talk to you to be the first one in line and we can blab so if you're new to the show Christian apologetics is that branch of theology dealing with the defense established for the Christian faith. Okay, talk, talk, talk to guys about that before what apologetics is and the kind of people know this but everybody is called mega defense for the faith that lies within us. Every Christian is called to adhere to the idea of defending the faith of knowing the faith you have to know the fight Saturday I taught on the essentials of the Christian faith while trying to do was to get people grounded in the word and the truth of God's work. Alright so in all of that. One of the things I've been thinking about is doing something on the ball. I call it the theology of marriage is something I'm been working on a little bit here and there of the theology of marriage is interesting because when I have never read stuff on marriage counseling and things like that. Let's just say that what I've read, not not read extensively, so I can't not docket them all and I read them all. Just a few things I was always kind of know it's good good practical stuff but I really didn't find in the basis for the theology. What was the theological foundation of marriage and so I started thinking about that and I've been wondering about it. Having ideas about it. So one of the things I'm thinking about doing is is teaching a course where I go through the ideas of what marriage is what it's about. In order to get people indoctrinated biblically on the marriage and one of the things you think about things and stuff and so one thing to think about is the issue of the doctrine of Trinity. I've all found over the years that the Trinity is more and more central to all kinds of stuff and as I'm thinking through things and I look at this. Think about it when I'm done counseling to people and I followed until you have set on both sides of the counseling table the best counseling I've had is the counseling that was biblical theological based on the character of God and the worst counseling I've had is just beat up the guy because you're a guy a lot of times in marriage counseling. That's what it is. It's the guys guilty. Beat him up, move on to something else and nothing really consult now that's not to say that guys are guilty of things that women are guilty to a things inside a marriage but it takes to soap things that a lot of don't get is the Trinity as a basis of of theology of marriage and what would marriage is it's a covenant and then there's this issue of position of man and woman and a lot of women. Boy did they bristle at this lament due to the men have the tougher jobs but the women have noticed when I've talked, counseled, and the Bible studies about this kind of stuff up. I think this might be in. You can argue with me you could say no I don't think you're right and call me up. Let me know your 87720722765 went up a lot. One of things I've noticed in my opinion does is subjective. Just my opinion is that a lot of Christian women are so indoctrinated with women's Lib theology women's Lib stuff philosophy I should say that they don't recognize the biblical position and a lot of men don't know the biblical position is either effective audible don't know husbandry is an agricultural term and it had to deal with doing things in a way that was productive and guarding what you were in charge of in the land. The animals and it was a process so it's an interesting husband is like that.
Women, on the other hand, because of the onslaught of and the tragedy of feminism. I think the tragedy that women really want equality on the fill this out to you guys think how many women out there do you think want superiority, not equality.
They want equality. Think about this then shouldn't they be doing ditch digging jobs should they be going out to getting drafted and doing boot camp and going to war. Should they do all the high-rise a dangerous stuff.
You want equality or do they just want equality only in the issue of of thought being a CEO equality biblical equality that's different were equal before God in our relationship with God.
But there's a hierarchy in the marriage, the husband is the wife, the head of the life the head that deals with federal headship and representation in the when I talk about this theological relationship of what it means for this, but the man to be the hothead and the wife to be in submission to his headship. When I talk about that.
I'll tell you. That is where I get the most pushback and the difficulty – you got a question after a minute after question and you can confirm man, your woman, you can answer this question is you too much to questions so what you know if you list out a few things with a be as far as what it means for husband to love his wife would that mean and know what you know to to be patient and kind and long-suffering and be protective and provide it would take to do that because it's got a lot of you know and in one of taught Bible studies.
We got to the theology of marriage and to the men. What does this tell you about Whitney's letter life and then we can ask the women if before track to be patient, be kind, be supportive, don't get mad, be protective, even open-source. They like that you spend time with them telling the great tune you love them. Stuff like this and women there you go, you know there's a few variations then asked the women you know is that running it will say yes.
Then I said women okay you tell me now what is it mean to respect your husband tell you not a single time when I've asked what that means is a woman got it right. I never once in a Bible study that women just happen to be sitting on one side the husband's on the other side just happened that because were also from talk about the study and that it's good. It started to send the sack with a work and the this worked out great and sweet. I've had these do you self-destruct comparable was writing these things out. Love us with a telescope he would eat your right with me to respect and only one I remember one of them said was your husband says what is that what it is that anything to do what he says don't yell whatever husband is that what it means respect. They all said no here's what's interesting is that both women and men noted means for the mental of their lives.
But the women don't know what it means to look to respect her husband is my experience, some of you women out there might want to call up and say this is what I think it means respect her husband. And in on that is a right or wrong or whether that might give us an answer, but we could talk about it.
I think it might be worth it because I think it's lacking in marriage counseling and theological aspects of what that means. I could tell you a secret about stuff in relationship to that which really puts marriage into an interesting perspective in this perspective is something we husbands are to love our wives as Jesus loves us the right away. That means we can fail because Jesus is now the standard but this is women are to submit the husband submission is voluntary, not obedience is voluntary music choose to and there to respect her husband. What is happening. The me give you something after take a break, people call up and ask you think you could type anything call me up and asked about anything, but it's a it's an interesting thing about working up a video series on this half hour increments right go through the basics of marriage. The theological aspect of what it is and in the roles biblically and theologically of what it says nothing about the if you want to give me a call for open lines 877-207-2276 only hear from you. Give me a call and we can blab for now is to get to Andy from Utah and welcome your new year.
Yes you are high and I don't wreck about that. They reference something about why did they baptized their dad is not.
I never had what they meant by that I don't have a it's first 2015. 29.
No first Christians 15 starts off with the issue with the gospel is and then it goes into the resurrection of Christ and then he goes into the what we call cultist the issue of the resurrection of the body of Christ in general and in of unbelievers as well. In verse 20 says, but now this is now Christ has been raised from the dead and goes on in verse like 24 then comes the end, and he hands over the kingdom to God the father goes for 25 you must bring toys put all enemies under his feet. He left enemy abolishes death, etc. in verse 28 when all these things are subjected to him than the son himself also be subject to the one who subjected all things to him. So I got maybe. All in all, now the context you understand is that Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who are asleep.
That's first 2015 20 MEC is the first one be resurrected and glorified body and he talks about these various things Christ the firstfruits, verse 23. Those were Christ that is coming in the end comes, etc. in any says otherwise.
What will those do who are baptized for the dead. If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them. It was not.
We met in the Christian church. Why did they do it the unbelievers out there, even if they believe in a resurrection their checking if Christ is what they do. That was going on.
It's not talk about Christians doing it wouldn't baptized for the dead believer that you unbelievers did all kinds of stuff they did pagan sacrifice animals to pagan gods. They would have temple prostitutes.
They had pedestrian's pedophilia as part of worship they would baptize that this wasn't just the thing when John the Baptist done they would even idea for the pagan rituals that okay. I gave them high embrace of government as they folks.
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What sometimes happens or the summer. The summer months and people start getting out there and I expected but if your listing got a question let's talk about something. All you gotta do is dial 877-207-2276 only herein give me a call all right now. I was talking about this issue of of marriage and wanting jump into something, risk a little something I'm telling you this is probably nothing you've heard before. Maybe I don't know because I've not read books that I know I've out at all little counselor say so.
Maybe you have you been on that side of the fence, knowing that a counselor be counseled so maybe you've heard some of the stuff I don't know that, biblically speaking, biblically speaking, you know for a man to love his wife to treasure the patient with to be kind to her to provide her for her protector or something. A lot of men don't understand one of the things wife needs is to be made to feel safe with her husband now because you can understand something were bigger were stronger and I could take my wife. I can pick her up literally and I can carry the house come stronger and bigger. She can't do that with me know where his fingers how to dance understand a little something very very delicately present. This women have really neat hearts into me.
I've seen my wife just love our children in ways that I just couldn't women are just kind of better at being loving and giving tenderness and they are awesome. I've seen it with my wife or children wonderful. She's been with them serious just been amazed want to came home from work and the house was all disheveled and there she is breast-feeding her hair look too good and closer kind of kitty want this and you could just tell of been one of those dates and there she was. The priority was the children and I thought it was beautiful, but I was actually beautiful and I remember seeing that I still consider thinking it's a good one. The priority was the children, not herself and not the house looks out at work and she would stay home and so I jumped in and did my part and help out. It was cheap and have energy to do so. Women are good at loving your wonderful just better at it and I certainly can take lessons from my wife and I could tell you men something understand something about women. They need to be milked, been made to feel safe around you raising your voice can threaten displaying physicality can threaten to never happen, wife you to feel safe, you can understand on the sadist distilled, please. I can they receive us into their hearts to our vulnerable and that reception there's a physical counterpart that they trust and so we need to be trustworthy to say we don't blow it but that's that's really important advice here. If your husband listening your thinking about it is you.
I feel safe and confident. My wife talked about things safe. She knows her protector. I'm a hard worker, things like that. Learning how to be more patient and kind of this is part of what it means to love my wife and I said before what is it mean for a woman to respect her husband and women just generally don't get it.
They don't understand what that means. And so we help you out.
Generally speaking, it means to esteem your husband to hold him in high regard to honor him to speak well of him to others to lift them up and encourage as a good leader is a good provider. No were not saying it's a lie is a lot of men out there pretty bad to tell you women something like this in the church when women become pastors and elders, which is against Scripture. Men often are given excuses such situations do not do with the call to do as men. And so if a woman requires in a gentle, loving, feminine way that the estimates it would require back, but if she were to esteem her husband and honor him in ways that she would relate to and understand. You'll see him rise to the occasion. Generally it's what happens. They rise to the occasion because you're trying to manipulate him because you're holding him up in the hire is held up the hire he's gonna feel in the morning to do my women don't know you know what you can do a man said he fixes something in the house and she looks at him and there bank done that one helping more just wanted to lie he's done some things try to help first thing is criticism and if that's the case, as it is a life you gotta if a move away from that is not easy to be a leader. She when you're going down a forest and the leader picks a path and it leads to a dead-end in the back you can say that one or more on what you do that leader sick you could appear. You do it all. That's different story because if you take the wrong path place you never been before you. Not sure how to lead and you lead and you fail are you to be mocked, but to be supported.
Women don't realize that to respect her husband is to honor him and he tries and doesn't make something perfect that's okay you show him that respect you be surprised men might be confused by that but they generally tend to rise to the occasion and do more work and provide more is if you beat them down state because they were sinners when you respect your husband he becomes more of a man to be respected when a husband loves his wife, she becomes more of a woman to love because it works that way now with the caller, given the ground and then afterwards they will continue teaching on this because there's a hint of a truth that will help you in the house that I can give you a right going to be called forth in lines 877-207-2276. Let's get to Joe from Hamilton you glad everything will you break nonmember. Already folks direct that Kathy's messages please give me call Matt's Y call 77077 charismatic slave back to the show enjoy my marriage if it's something you are enjoying are like.
Let me know if you'd like me to do a series on this. I can in depth on it, but I'm just curious like teachings for line 20 or call 877-207-2276 Joe from Hamilton, Ohio. I met welcome. I sure got a question or comment your program in my local guy that comes on the radio and he gives a pretty aggressive anti-Calvinistic new anti-predestination and armed anything and pretty compelling though I and then ran after him. I think my program.
I'm.your you're taking a different standpoint and the church. But that I don't know how to How to deal with both sides of the coin, and yet the talk to somebody about Christ or somebody about their faith. Well, I'm not sure who this person is but what you call nothing and ask him to do formal debate with me on Calvinism's name and the name of the pogrom. Sometimes I think that one question against the mother was the name of the program is now the Greg Oya asking that I've debated before about 30 years ago and let's just say that California yeah I know Steve you met I was the long long time. He knows when I'll be glad to debate him in a public in a church.
Let's do it. I think of the very interesting because I've studied this this issue.
So much for so long that I'm actually convinced is extremely biblical and I know the counter arguments Vietnamese best counterargument with its easy but nevertheless which was a question know what your question how you talk people through this issue. I get what issue I hear people talk predestination, correct or not correct. It's in the Bible. I bet he make that argument good. How this is not true because it's in the Bible is there. Are we destined it says here in Ephesians 111. Also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to his purpose who works all things after the counsel of his will that we believe predestination is where God brings about whatever he wants, and works according to his will that predestination is right there in Ephesians 111. It's read it or about Ephesians 15 he predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ himself or for Christians to seven we speak God's wisdom in the ministry, the hidden wisdom of God predestined before the ages of God to our glory. Romans 830 owes me predestined he also called the same group there. I think the approach that everyone called everyone not are not.
Whatever Barnett I think the no re-rainy at Greyser union Gracie Ike 57 tell you I call pre-V-neck grace kindergarten theology and hourly. Yeah, I do explain why okay pre-V-neck grace. Let me show you this is why to problem breathing it grace.
That's the that's the thing that the bill say all proving a grace that that's what it according to our minion Wesleyan theology or meet proving it.
Grace is the grace which comes before a person's decision to receive Christ. This grace is not based on any person's ability, character tendencies, but is freely given by God to a person to aid the person in choosing to receive God's truth via his free will. Okay, so it's a grace that God gives to stomach whatever that means. Is it a substance infused into the soul that re-enables them that puts them back to the ability like Adam to have this neutral ability to be able to of their own free will receive God or not. Is that what it is what that's the case why does one person's free will with proving it. Grace of what is one person's free will. Moving to believe another one is not.
Why is that if God's pre-V-neck grace bring someone to the point of believing given that free will option then why does Bob believe and Frank does not.
It's simple. I think he would hurt. I don't drink, grace, and therefore everybody equally that they know it's not elegant know it's not for everybody equally words that wears it say in the Bible God treats everybody the equally wears that in the Bible is salvation says so where's in Scripture that God wants it would be saved right. That's one of things will stay the civil God wants all people to be saved and so therefore they'll conclude that because he wants all people to be saved.
What it means is that he should give equal grace to everybody knows me to give grace is a pill you take is a substance you you infuse into your soul is an amount of whatever it is that God does to you to bring you to a neutral state wears it saying I asked people were to say what you say in Scripture while you second Peter three. He wants it would be saved. Can the computer 39. Not wishing for any parish for all to come to repentance. Not good with the logical study in the word all right there is a will, then would God ever in any way speak or do something a situation. People will not be saved because he wants all to come to repentance. Then he would never hinder them from from coming to that repentance is not right that makes sense, doesn't Mark 410 soon as he was alone his followers along with the 12, began asking him about the parables and Jesus was saying to them to you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God but those who are outside get everything in parables, so that while seeing they may see and not perceive. And while hearing they may hear, and not understand.
Otherwise they might return and be forgiven. He speaks in parables of people will not be forgiven.
Mark 410 through 12 so I asked people. I'm not setting Scripture against Scripture because I can harmonize both of those verses. Can you if you say you teach out of second Peter 39. The God which would be saved in your logical conclusion under that is that he will give this proving grace, which is not in Scripture to everybody to make an equal right to me. She's not gonna hinder anybody right right, then why does he onesie said the deluding influence upon people. Second Thessalonians 2 for the believe a lie when you do that that mean well because God's sovereign not man. Arminianism look at this ticket scale and put God on one side and men on the other. Now just imagine some gods bassoon the left and man's on the right. I just have my hands up that way. Look through this in now and so the weight of truth is with God's obeying all the sudden God ill.
It tilts down forgot. He's the one. These the heavy use it in Arminianism. It's a little equality. It's my choice. My free will. My ability because God would never like for example make the wicked for the day of destruction could never make a vessel for dishonorable use. He always wants everyone to be saved.
So therefore it would never speak in parables, so they won't be saved in the deluding influence on them. I've debated this countless times over 30 years and I've written a document on called a call the outlines on Calvinism. It's 96 pages.
That's with index and with table contents. I have an open one of my computer screens so I know that on your website. No good on the basics and get on the Amazon but you see questions I asked questions God makes a person including the person's will his body, his mind limp. Doesn't God know how to work it all for salvation or she does.
If God wants ever to be saved. You know what was going to do if he honestly does art. Every individual be safe but yet he's got Violet your free will is the Arminians say the sovereignty of human free will because their libertarians are not compatible lists which I can refute and see if you want everyone to be saved. If that's what you say that me that's what his ultimate desire. All he has to do all this to do is show school and repent in the presence of his incredible holiness to know the judge what is questions they don't know how to okay hold on hey folks, we write back after these messages do 7207 why call 77077 back to show the last segment of the article to give a call 877-207-2276 look at the Joe from Hamilton, Ohio near okay. Thank you again one more comment and one question I get my own faith journey you done or that my non-comes to the father and mother by drawing Mike Dalton that implication of God have to do the work of drawing out or will ever be open to the gospel when we view people that reject the whole warfare under Calvinistic view used to call them question either misunderstood great.
It is a myth that much misunderstanding of Scripture because they were cute every verse in the palm of that era see why talk a current American as well as in the why my cell is ultimately what they're doing is is lowering God and exalting man comes down to. I have ways of showing to Arminians their humanism is woven into their theological perspective, the lake, they are like that. Now I don't care if someone's a Calvinist or or not.
What I have a problem with is when people get on the air and start talking smack about it and causing division in the body of Christ and cause problems that I have a problem with and when Calvinists themselves. I've I rebuked Calvinist who've gone in Germany in group so you guys are paying you guys and how I said stop it until you stop that you don't have the right to say that and they're not unbelievers. They believe the true living God. Salvation by grace through faith. They don't have the doctrines of grace understood like you do if you can go judge them. I don't do that is considered Arminians you should not be after talking smack about reformed theology when you're causing division in the body of Christ, especially when the Bible says were predestined and you say when or not. Says we are. I have ways of tricking them to see things I can't tell you how many literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours I've spent discussing and teaching reformed theology literally. I can stand up on a stage.
You know the pulpit and teach on reformed theology for two hours without any notes and I try to brag under sink when you do something that many times that long.
You got Scripture I could go through it and I go through it. Cannot go through it. This is how much I've done this and I am convinced that God is the sovereign King. He's the one that I think about this Joe just think logically. Okay you're just logic all right.
Does God know everything that you know everything okay for children 20 to know what I want you to do is imagine something with it a little journey together. I want you to imagine the piece of paper enough by 11 landscape it sideways and it's it's in front of you and that white there's no line to just white and that is nothingness universe doesn't exist and put it.right in the middle. That's God now all that exists is just him now, there could be a potential existence of all events of potential existence, you take a pen or pencil drawer squiggly line any direction out to the edge of the paper squiggly could loopback do everyone this matter. That is representative of a potential existence but exists in the mind of God. Now draw another 100 angle another another angle another one. Another angle you could put two, three, four, 500 on their you with me so far.
This means that what were in this context what's happening here is an illustration of potentiality, all since God knows everything. He knows all things before the universe was created.
He knows all all things actual as well as potential.
The only thing actual is his own existence. Everything else is potential because he knows all things. He therefore knows all possibilities of everything that could come into existence right. Yeah, Robert exactly exactly. You're on the right track now. So we keep drawing these little squiggly lines in each squiggly line out from God is an idea that's done good work is a historical threat of all events that could happen if God were do something this way or different direction. Another way that they only exist in God's mind now is take one of those lines. That's when God chooses to bring into existence, and on that line is underlines our people's free will choices we Calvinist. We believe in free will. Okay and the free will choices does that then mean that everything all along that line which God is now going to determine to come into existence doesn't mean it's all under his sovereignty doesn't mean that everything is under without exactly. He's the king. So what ever comes into existence only exists because God wills that exist even send people when you think God wants sin to occur in one sense, yes another sense, no, because it is the creative will keep the heat he says B like this is will to create a brings universe into existence is prescriptive. Willie says thou shalt not lie in his permissive will he wills to let you lock so those lies along that line was lies that people do by their own free will choice those are all within the sovereign will of God that he permits them to desire to permit their occurrence. So in that sense he wills them to come into existence not in the prescriptive sense, but in the permissive sense because only in a permissive sense. Can anything come into existence.
Now this means that bad things that occur also come into existence because God has desired to allow them to come into existence is by his will, but also the author of evil, but is not the author of evil, because it's something that is done by the free will. Creatures who rebel against him. Okay now Marie just something you saying then that God wills it bad thing happen. Yes, in the permissive sense of his will, he permits things to to happen that are bad because he has made us in his image.
The new module day or Monday all day and we have this ability of freedom of freedom without though is restricted to her nature, we have free will. According to her nature.
I can't conceive of why can't have free will choice to do what I can conceive of.
I don't have all knowledge. I can't make free will choices but everything that I don't have all knowledge, unrestricted by my nature is so far freedom is received by her nature, but God is not restricted by our free will. He sovereign over it because it's on that line he chose to bring to bring into existence. Now that means even bad things on that line will come into existence because it's by the permissive will of God and get this acts four 2728 four truly in the city there were gathered together against your holy servant Jesus gathered against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed that you anointed Jesus who was gathered, both Herod and Pontius Pilate. Those are two individuals along with the Gentiles and peoples of Israel now is to people, groups, individuals and groups of people to do whatever your hand in your purpose predestined to occur right there. Those verses and exports was over 28 tells us that God has predestined in his purpose predestined them to do these bad things get there. The ones responsible peoples. It is not possible. Yes, it is because then you have to get into is called the ultimate cause.
The proximate cause and the efficient cause of things.
The proximate cause is the foundation of any codes with the ultimate cause is the foundation the ultimate cause of their rebellion against Jesus ultimate causes God because he brought the universe into existence. They let Israel exist by the cot set nominal figures on site.
The ultimate cause of all things is God ultimately has nothing would exist if God hadn't brought the foundation of the universe, the earth, etc. into existence. The nothing could occur on earth could hit a brigand existence. Now Adam and Eve in the garden and God allowed the devil to come into the garden. That is the proximate cause of Adam's rebellion, God allowed Satan to come in. He allowed Adam and Eve to talk to them. God knew that was going on.
He allowed it.
He permitted it that there approximate or the proximate condition.
The condition and situation right next to the action and what's the action. Adam chose to rebel East Dowd was called the efficient cause he chose to rebel but the only way he could choose to rebel and therefore he's the one who's guilty is by being in a condition in which the temptation could occur. God is the proximate cause of that since he brought these things into the bank. But Adam had free will.
The devil had free will. Free will is the ability to make choices consistent with her nature that are not forced and they came together and got allowed it to occur.
The court was well on that squiggly line and yet Adam is the one who freely chose to rebel. Therefore he's the one responsible for his own sin. This is why an export was 728 a Marie to the state. Okay, this is theology of virtually the city there were gathered against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel to do whatever your hand in your purpose predestined to occur.
They were gathered against Jesus to kill him.
There were to kill Jesus to crucify Jesus that's what it says okay now. In acts 223 this man delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put them to death whose one responsible minute is real instead of God ordained it, but who did the nailing.
It was the Romans notice all the men of Israel, listen to these words. Jesus the Nazarene, Amanda tested you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through through him in your midst, just as you yourselves know this man delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross men of Israel, who was the blame the men of Israel. This is biblical theology. I'm telling you. Rarely is this kind of stuff discussed in pulpits or not.
Sometimes a little radio shows because if they could have a human centered mentality where man's free will is the ultimate standard of what is right and wrong, or good, I should say in salvation and not God determine then we can have problems or not to go to verses like this necklace show help. God predestined, but they're the ones responsible. The only way to make sense of this is to understand withholding ultimate proximate and efficient causation. Okay I could teach for the Lord. I can teach for hours on the stuff coming from so many different angles. I have ways of tricking my loving way tricking them to see things look okay. They think it divisive. They need to stop by the body to stop her.
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