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March 30, 2022 5:00 am
The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. Why is it apologetic to research what is found alive for you have questions about Bible doctrine maps. What why branches called responding to your questions at 877207276. Here is Matt slick live quaint filling in for bad the next couple of days.
Matt is traveling on ministry effectively to be joining me here in Utah this weekend doing some vandalism at outreach, especially outside the very Christian festival down in Spanish Fork were will be heading out tracks and then talking to anyone who's willing to talk about sharing the gospel with the community to be looking forward to that. So be praying for us for open minds and open hearts and good conversations and thoughts for those of you who are in the Utah area tomorrow. That's Saturday, March 25 of 2022. In case you happen to be listening. This is a rerun that would not be tomorrow for you. Saturday, March 25, 2022 tomorrow at the time of this recording is going to be on the a informal gathering with Matt slick and myself and anyone interested with meeting with the current staff going to be at Calvary city on a hill in Provo, Utah at 6:30 PM.
Dinner will be provided it's not there's not to be any formal teaching. It's not a formalized event or conference or some are just a casual time to get together and fellowship over dinner and we would love a chance to get to know any of you guys so that is going to be going on. Again, that's tomorrow evening 6:30 PM at Calvary city on a hill in Provo, Utah, so would love to see you guys there are new to the show. This is a radio outreach and Extension of karma.org CAR M.org that's the Christian apologetics and research ministry. And so we are ministry devoted to equipping the saints and reaching the lost through careful research and through apologetics, which is the field of theology concerned with the defense of the Christian faith.
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Talking to people on sidewalks and others. A common objection that I hear out here that you probably hear from people of various backgrounds where you're at when you're sharing the gospel you open your Bible and you show the truth of Jesus. You show the call to repentance. You show what Christ is still in salvation that comes through faith alone and him and his finished work in his sacrifice, and there will be a pushback will sure that's what the Bible says. Now the Bible is been translated so many times how can we even know what it originally said how can we trust it, and this objection. I've heard my entire believing life from atheists, Mormons, Muslims. This is extremely common that people will pushback and challenge the Bible can't be trusted because it's been translated so many times this rest on three major fallacies and when we would leave stop and look at it.
The opposite is in fact true that the Bible has been translated so many times gives us even more reason to trust that what we have in our English Bibles. To date, villas accurately or for a reflect what the original set. So first, the assumption generally smuggled into this idea that the Bible being translated so many times must mean we can't trust.
It is the idea of it Bible you have in your hand today. In any SB and NIV a KJV or whatever translation you may be holding is a translation of a translation of a translation of the translation and once it's passed through so many languages it's lost all of its original beat and if you go on to say Google translate and you type up a sentence and translated from English to French and then from French to German and German to Japanese and Japanese Chinese in the back to English often have changed in some weird way, but the problem with this assumption is that that isn't what Bible translations are there not translations of translations of translations in an ongoing change. Each translation is almost every time a fresh translation for a expansion on an existing translation in the case of like fake KJV going to be in KJV the RSV to the NRS be in such things that you did get all of these what's being done as they were revisiting the original Greek and Hebrew. Of course I don't mean the original copy but the original language we have a ancient and numerous manuscripts in the Greek New Testament was written it in the Hebrew that the Old Testament was written it and when translators in any language or producing fresh translations there almost always going back to those original language to the Greek to the Hebrew, so the existence of other translations does nothing. Nothing to harm the accuracy of the new translation of the idea that while there have been other translations that make your translation crawl is that there's just no logic to it whatsoever. The existence of another translation does no harm to a fresh translation but goes back to the original language and because we have such an immense and very ancient body of manuscripts of our old and New Testament, we can reliably and confidently go back to those original menus that are not original men's original languages, only manuscripts numerous manuscripts and through that produce fresh translations that are reliable and can be trusted to push back even more on this idea of advice as I stated earlier, it's not just the existence of other translations doesn't harm our confidence of the Bible, it actually helps our confidence in our modern English Bibles house so first of all let's talk about ancient translations so Christianity from the beginning with the translating faith. The New Testament itself when it wanted to quote the Old Testament didn't quote it in Hebrew, because the New Testament was writing in Greek to a Greek speaking audience and so they translated or used existing translation of the New Testament in Greek and sore right from the beginning.
The inspired authors of the New Testament already believe that God's word could be reliably translated in other languages, and did so even before that you had Jews who were reflected in manuscripts we have of the Septuagint. The Dead Sea Scrolls has both Aramaic and Greek fragments that we can see that even before the time of the New Testament. The Jews had translated the Old Testament Scriptures into Greek and Hebrew darts are either already in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic and so the common languages of the Jewish people scattered from the land were speaking, they translated into those languages so translation is been going on since the earliest days of at least the New Testament, and even before that of didn't. Three New Testament era of the Old Testament. So what's that mean house that help us will very anciently back when Hebrew and Greek were still little and coin a ancient Greek were still living spoken language. We had translations made into other languages into Greek and Aramaic later into Syriac into Latin into error.
Armenian Georgian Gothic Slavonic, soggy and over in the Persian Empire were heated beyond the borders of the Roman Empire.
The optic again beyond the borders of the Roman Empire soaked across political lines across cultures across regions. The word of God was being spread through translation that's valuable to us because if we want to know for sure are we rightly understanding what these ancient Greek sentences and words mean more modern scholars looking at the Greek really know what it means we can look at the ancient translations made by people who spoke that ancient grain should Greek language and we can compare and see yes what they translated it into Latin as what they translated it into Syriac as we can look at seat. That means what we understand the Greek company comparing with those ancient translations gives us a richer confidence that we do know what the ancient coin, a Greek of the New Testament with the ancient Hebrew.
The Old Testament actually meet and so this very early widespread practice of translating the Scriptures helps us to have confidence that we can accurately translate from those languages. It's extremely helpful in boosting our confidence. Let's more the existence of many modern English translations far from the common accusation that causes nothing but confusion that actually boosts our confidence because it would be one thing if each English translation said something completely different. If that were the case then yes we have to wonder who was translating when you read the NASB and then you read the ESP. What you'll find is that it is saying the same thing in different words and you pick up the NIV the NKJV or the world. KJV and you will find that in almost every word and phrase it's translating it to mean the same thing just using check different English words to reflect the for the rare instances where that's not the case. There's almost always a footnote acknowledging the other possible translation villains trying to manipulate her height and he thinks the scholars are admitting okay. This could be translated to swear this way and working to show you both.
These are the options there's not another, what we know with it. The words are vague enough they could be this or this and many of those instances, it simply the identity of a particular gemstone or particular animal that it's hard to know for sure what the ancient Hebrew writer meant by that works, and so it when we look at that even the minor exceptions to the rule that this multitude of translations only strengthens our confidence that when we look at the Bible in our hands in English today, we can trust that what we have. There is the work so will come back and talk about more this after the break. Call please call in at 877-207-2276 lines are open to be back with you right after the spring mass Y call 770776 charismatic slave, welcome back to Matt slick live the way filling in for while he is traveling on ministry actually heading down this way to be here with me this weekend out in Utah were going to be at the sidewalk sharing the gospel with the community, especially outside Saturday and Sunday the Harry Christian color Festival down in Spanish Fork look forward to it every year to go down there handbell tracks and share the gospel with anyone willing to stop and talk and so were to be out there this weekend would ask you guys to be praying for us and if any of you guys would like to meet us in the car and stuff this weekend.
If you're in the Utah area or can easily travel here tomorrow evening. That Saturday, March 25 of 2022. In case you listen to this on the later recordings, but tomorrow evening at 6:30 PM at Calvary city on a hill in Provo, Utah were going to be meeting there is knocking to be a formal seminar you not through any teaching or lecture in public with more casual get together at time of fellowship. Dinner will be provided and we'd love for you guys to come out and meet Matt and put up with me and some of the other volunteers. People who are involved with car so we'd love… Chance to spend some time with you guys if you are available and interested. We look forward to seeing you guys.
That said, let's jump right to the phone if you'd like to get on. Don't forget you can call in lines are open at 877-207-2276.
But to answer your questions, but let's go to Laura in the Utah Laura, you are on the air about if I can how you doing today Laura I am doing fine thank you and dad while traveling down here the great meeting actually might now have more contact Gary about going in there on the book of Mormon 30 all ire, I think, 30, 35, it says something totally out when you guys how how do we witness to Mormons about brought up talk to them about yeah I I found with LGF that I meet in the street out here in Utah when you when you bring up those conflicts. They will with between the book of Mormon and the later teaching that developed in the LDS church, and there certainly are plenty of such conflicts. But when you when you bring bring those up, which is certainly worth doing, collecting that fee for consideration showing that oddly enough in some cases the book of Mormon agrees with me more than you, but typically those things are simply reinterpreted down or downplayed but it can be a helpful extra tool of a pointing out even the book of Mormon shows that what you believe on this would disagree with what you would say on the nature of God on Bill as you're saying the nature of the afterlife final judgment. The fiery torments of hell are clearly taught in the book of Mormon and so there can be value in pointing those things I've personally never found it to be a major persuasive thing with any of the individuals I've met Mormons or individual humans all, each with their own perspective and it's worth bringing back out so I do think that there is value in raising it as part of the point. But then of course you want to go to first first Corinthians 15 itself where there where they're getting that bad and hold on my program is freezing here so I'm turning there now but the context of their answers could be of 15, which is so important to have in mind it's dealing with the fact that there are false teachers who have come in who are denying the resurrection and so Paul is attempting to affirm not denying Jesus's resurrection, but denying the future resurrection of Christian believers today or in Paul's day at that time and so were saying there is no future resurrection when you die, your body will not be raised in Paul is refuting that in various ways, showing how their teaching doesn't hold up. And so now if Christ is preached, that he has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say there is no resurrection, so that's who is challenging but there are some who say this as you move through the passage, Paul will go on to say. Moreover, we are even found to be false witnesses of God affect teaching.
It's true so there's a we Paul and those who are who are preaching and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless. The small apologist writing is a we and there's a you and those are the pronouns that he's using Paul in his audience that he is writing to now if Christ has that has been raised. For if Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who are asleep. For since by one man death by one man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead again but stop topic hasn't changed. He continues to walk through all of this talks about putting all things under sub's objection under his feet. What went all things verse 28 are subjected to him, then the son himself will also be subjected to the one who subjected all things to him so that God may be all in all. Then we get to the strange phrase to our modern ears. Otherwise, what will goes to who are baptized for the dead. If the dead are not raised, why then are they baptized for them. Why are we also in danger. Every hour so we are facing persecution for preaching the resurrection of Christ, we are willing to die for our faith, knowing were going to rise again, but they are baptizing for the debts know who are here. If not, Paul. It's not all it's not not Paul and his his group. It's not the church at Corinth. It's not you.
Why are you baptizing the dead. It's why are they baptizing for the debt. When you follow the context. The idea that Paul and the Corinthian church as a whole are baptizing for the dead is not a possible interpretation of what's clearly going on here is that there is a there is a day there is a separate group and in context seems to be the hair of the heretical groups of false teachers that he showing the contradiction in their own calls teaching and their own false practices their own false practices don't add up with their own false teachings and so he showing their contradictions. They are baptizing for the debtor, that doesn't make any sense. We are suffering for faith and that doesn't fix the Esso that answers your question Laura. I I okay thought they would be then and all of you guys stay with me calling yourselves at 877-207-2276 and we will be right back, Matt slick, why call 770776.
Here is Matt's welcome back to Matt slick live. This is not Matt slick Luke Wayne, a colleague of math that the Christian apologetics research ministry:.org and Uppsala and format of your last couple days while Matt has been traveling on ministries actually heading this way to spend the weekend out with me and some brothers on the sidewalk sharing the gospel at the Harry crystal festival in Spanish Fork this weekend so please be praying for us that God would give us open conversations with people willing to listen and an opportunity to cheerfully share the good news of Jesus Christ. So, and while that's in town, we'd love the chance to meet you guys the listeners of this show in the Utah area so if you are on near Provo, Utah were able to get that way Saturday night. Tomorrow evening, March 25.
We are going to be gathering at 6:30 PM at Calvary city on a hill and Provo, Utah, dinner will be provided there and this will be a formal seminar or conference or teaching situation of the skin to be a bore, informal, casual gathering, a chance to fellowship together and for us to get to know some of you are listeners and for you to get Bill the current staff and volunteers, and so we would be excited to see any of you guys who could make it again.
That's 6:30 PM at Calvary city on a hill and Provo, Utah. So we are eager to meet you guys there. Well phone lines are open and you can reach us at 877-207-2276 right now with your questions and let's get back to Laura from Utah Laura, you are on the air law will I talking about me yeah and we can see that they hate ours and they don't take it and it's hard to talk to him that way. Are you especially here in Utah. The Mormon religion will why on how do we land.
They don't take things in context. They did one verse 20 good things to help you out. That is a fantastic question. First of all the facts, but things are often taken out of context. I want to still read it reassure people.
Don't let that make you hesitate to still open up" from your Bible and let the word of God speak because the word of God will speak and so we we still open up and share from the word and that is first and foremost, what to do sharing the gospel with with an LDS person begins at its core is like sharing the gospel with any person. We do want to open up the word of God and share what it says now that said not to sidestep your question I do have some specific tips on at least how I go about it, there's no magic formula. Every Latter Day Saints is an individual person is coming from their own background their own experience their own way of thinking about things and there's no magic bullet, this is the way you share what there are some things I found helpful in getting the gospel across and so first of all I like to go to the very words of Jesus himself, and specifically on what Jesus said on how we attain eternal life. Although a lot of great verses on how to be saved in traditional Mormon vocabulary saved can be a very general term that means bodily resurrection to any eternal destination any of their three kingdoms of heaven or some would even say going to outer darkness is secure safe because you have a physical body you got raised from the wrist, but that a physical body or saved, even though your suffering and outer darkness so that the word slave can trip up. It can lead to a break in communication and so I prefer to go to verses that use the word eternal life because in traditional Mormon vocabulary traditional LDS vocabulary, the term eternal life refers to getting to to live in progress forever in the celestial glory in the presence of heavenly father and so it's put closest parallel to the actual biblical idea of getting all that God offers us in genuine salvation and eternal life that he gives us, Jesus Christ. So I like to go to verses that are about eternal life, and specifically I like to go to the words of Jesus because it it's well every word of Scripture is equally inspired.
Conversationally, it can be helpful to say look, I can tell you how I think we get eternal life. You can tell me how you think you get eternal life, but I think we can both agree sincerely this is a game or strategy. I think we can both agree what Jesus says about how we how we get eternal life is you can't go against that, however, said he says we get eternal life. That's how we get eternal life. And so then I will walk through examples of some of my favorites are John 314, 270, as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up so that whoever believes will in him have eternal life. So he begins verse 14 with a pointing back to an Old Testament example, when Israel was under judgment and the symbol of their suffering. They were being bit by defendant mistakes at suffering with tormenting desks to the venom of the snakes excellent image of their suffering an image of the serpent was made at if they trusted God enough to just look at just look God would deliver them and take that take that punishment away so that comparison meant in the same way it says, just as anyone who looked at the serpent was delivered from judgment.
Whoever believes in him will have eternal life. He continues for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. God did not send his son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through him.
He who believes in him is not judged.
He who does not believe is charged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten son of God throughout this passage there is a drumbeat that there is no believe are going to receive this eternal life and all who do not believe not receive it doesn't go to everybody it goes only to those who believe that it goes to all of those who believe not. Some of those who believe who were also baptized and fulfilled her temple ordinances and obey the commandments and on and on and on and on. It is all of those who believe will receive this and all of those who do not believe will not receive it, but instead will be judged as an expense. Yeah, right wall, we believe are absolutely and so I drive back home by showing John 524 646 4711 25 to 20 again and again, there's this idea that all who believe and so will push back at this point, well, you have to be baptized. You have to be this okay that's not what Jesus says, but you're right, the other push back.
You'll get is what we believe we just also do these works so on your on what you're saying, won't we be saved to your absolutely right. That's the pushback and that's where we have to let the New Testament define the kind of belief that's talking about and so Romans 44 through five. Now to the one who works, his wages not credited as a gift but as an obligation is what is due, but to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteous. So when Jesus is talking about. Believe his apostles is appointed sit once explained to us exactly what that belief is and the type of belief that's credited as righteousness is one the trusts fully and completely in what Jesus did and does not attempt to add or work but doesn't say okay what Jesus did got me started. But I also have to once you add your works to it. It's no longer the kind of faith that Jesus is talking one word is wages and not credited as a gift but as an obligation of the moment you say and and what I do.
My obedience to the commandments.
My temple worthiness by baptism by ordinances finish what Jesus started and I know most obvious would not like that wording, but the fact of the matter is if my faith in Christ is not enough to receive all and in fact if I don't fulfill all those things in this life. When I die. Someone else has to go to temple and do it for me because what Jesus did isn't enough and Jesus plus my work still isn't enough.
Jesus plus my works, plus what the church does on my behalf. That's not faith you're not trusting in what Jesus did, you're not relying on his finished work and what is okay, okay, no problem. All right I will and you to you to all right before my open 877-207-2276 and will be right back after the mass Y770776.
Here is Matt's welcome back to show this is not Matt slick Luke waited a colleague at the Christian apologetics and research Ministry filling in for Matt while he is traveling on ministry doing submission work, including this weekend he will be joining me here in Utah working to be the sidewalk sharing the gospel with people in the community and definitely would encourage you to pray for us as were out there that God would open hearts and minds that we would be able to have good conversations free from troublemakers and able to just genuinely openly share from people share with people and here, but have them hear the gospel get to hear from them what they're saying have open dialogue and ultimately proclaim salvation of the perfect finished work of Jesus Christ. So be praying for us on that and if you would like to meet Matt slick and myself and others who are involved in car if you're in the Utah area or able to reach Provo, Utah were going to be having an informal casual fellowship and get together where you can meet the people at Carmel to be a gathering tomorrow that Saturday, March 25 going to be meeting at 6:30 PM at Calvary city on a hill at the church in Provo, Utah address.
There is 105 E. 100 N. and dinner will be provided.
It'll just be a good time to get together and fellowship.
Spend some time yet get us getting to know you, the listeners of the show, and those who benefit from our ministry or interact with our ministry and for you to get to know us, the people defined behind Carmen behind the Matt slick like show so we would love for you guys to come out and join us God that said to be turned back to the phones. Now you can get on line at 877-207-2276 and let's turn to Rachel in North Carolina. Rachel, you are on the air. I'm doing wonderful. Rachel could please you to check out having me on get me to bring up a child in the way he should go when he is old he shall not play and I'm going to hang up and lift okay will be. I will be happy to turn to that proper so this is a very commonly quoted proverb. Unfortunately, as wonderful as this proverb is. It is sadly one of only a few Proverbs that the average Bible reader is familiar with the book of Proverbs is a wonderful rich treasure trove of God's revealed wisdom and we would all do ourselves a favor to spend more time reading Proverbs and what they have to say. But this one in Proverbs 22 six which says train up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will not depart from it.
So this is often on the one hand, we can exaggerate what this is saying.
On the other hand, we can downplay too much what the suspects we do have to remember that this is a proper and a proverb by itself is a simple, memorable statement of wisdom that reflects how life generally works. It is not a prophecy or a promise or a law. It is, but it is a what it is a wise statement that helps us understand the world as it typically works and their other books that wrestle with some of the exceptions of the will be Proverbs to talk about the way that God will prosper those who obey and follow his ways and then there was Job and Ecclesiastes will wrestle with those times when those who are following God's ways. Nevertheless, find themselves in difficult, tragic suffering, agonizing situations, and so that doesn't make the proverb wrong.
It makes the proverb proper and so even within the book of Proverbs. There are different Proverbs on the same subject that we have to put together to see the larger picture and that's what the book of Proverbs is meant to do was for us to learn not a proverb. What Proverbs had to look at them together to get a more holistic picture on each of the topics that it talks about whether it be money and generosity or sexuality and marriage and adultery, or in this case, and parenting in the Proverbs do have a lot to say about parenting and this is one of and it is a wise and true thing to know that when you train up a child in the way he should go, that it is generally most often true that even when he is old he will not depart from it. Know what this proverb doesn't answer by itself. If we take it on its own is what what is the way a child should go proverb by itself isn't meant to answer it. It is a statement that's meant to be taken in the context of the rest of the book of Proverbs and the rest of Scripture as a whole that teaches us what godly parenting looks like that that we are to as Paul would say to raise up our children in the teaching and admonition of the Lord, that we are to instruct our children in the ways of God that we are to teach each child to be the man or woman that God is made them to be that it is generally true that a child raised faithfully will go on to live faithfully will go on to live out the morality and the teachings and the wisdom that they were raised and so again, this isn't the prophecy that everyone who does this absolutely will in every instance never have a child who disobeys it, but it is a statement of God's wisdom about how life generally works, and we parents should read this and take it as a challenge that look. I really do need to put the effort into raising my children right because that will that will lead to children growing up to behave and act and Lord willing, if the spirit regenerates their heart even inwardly, but he believes the things of God, and to walk that out and we do have a part in that God's chosen parents as the means for raising the children up in godliness and so it is a wise statement for us to remember that what we do in the younger years, when will the children are under our charge will have impacts on the rest of their life through their adulthood. If we squander that that's going to have a major negative impact on our children.
But if we take advantage of it. It will have a major positive input and impact. And you know as were speaking on this before jump to the next next call and I really want to emphasize especially in a nation plagued by absentee fathers. When a man desires a child and then chooses to walk away and not be there or that your failure. Even in absence to be there to train up that child does of violence to that child's life that you can.possibly Christ understand you have no idea the damage you are doing. Repent and turn from that even if it's later about child's life turn and invest in that child's life. We have the duty but it's a privilege as well because it will will proceeds we plant will blossom in that child's life and make a difference impact. Alright, so that said, I would love to just continue preaching on the book of book of Proverbs and anyone else you have questions about Proverbs.
Please call back at 877-207-2276 but we got a call from José in North Carolina and I'm excited to see what is question here so José you are on the air. Okay, I can hear you just fine. Great. I I mentioned that the show and call bench that you're going to Utah and because I I have run away from the church that it would only want to have your authority preaching the gospel and it was unfortunate because it long story short, it really did, and lately I have been trying to get back in the church and not correctly there. Headed by women are the technical there and my question is, of the authority to preach the gospel. I don't men to the Deacon and the elders, but you speak absolutely. So if you're if you're talking about reaching as in the cousin in the context of the gathering of the church in it so preaching the word to the church as a pastor as an elder that role of public proclamation to the body has been given to men. However, when you because you said this in the context of the ministry were to be doing proclaiming the gospel out in Utah.
The preaching of the gospel out on the street person-to-person it to an unbeliever child sharing the good news of Jesus Christ with other people is something that every believer man and woman has the responsibility the authority to privilege the honor to do Scripture does not limit that to specific ecclesiastical roles.
Only elders and deacons can share the gospel with people or even to be specifically masculine role of sharing the gospel we have. For example, with Apollo's in in the book of acts Priscilla and acquittal of both husband and wife when he came preaching as a former disciple of John the Baptist, something of Jesus of the gospel, but had not received the full fulfilled gospel after his death and resurrection and everything that it come so he came preaching true but incomplete things and they both pulled him aside and it says they both shared more completely the finished work of Jesus.
And so that that's the case where we see a man and a woman, both Andrew have no official authority of the church whatsoever. No position that status but sharing the gospel with this open person in the community and sharing that truth of Jesus Christ without so this. There certainly out when it comes to sharing the gospel with unbelievers person-to-person. That's something that we all can should get to rejoice at the ability to do that.
I'm sorry. I'd like to talk with you more that the call back Monday and we can talk more on the subject. I'd really like to help you find a good church to understand this issue more like you because you have a wonderful weekend and we will see on Monday. Another gram by the Truth Network