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If you want to click on radio and click on the video link on the right-hand side of the video. In a culture where we are so prone to false teaching, the eldership and leadership of churches is so important. I'm young, I don't know what to tell, but I'm super young and it's something that I aspire to. So, as someone who's been doing ministry and studying God's Word for years, what would you say are the most important qualifications for eldership laid out in verses to be identified? Okay, well, one of the requirements for eldership is to be male. Elders cannot be female, pastors cannot be female. That's clearly taught in Scripture. And now, the word overseer, which is episkopos in the Greek, seems to be interchangeably used with presbuteros, which is elder.

So, what's that? So, what it says in 1 Timothy 3 is an overseer must then be above reproach, the husband of one wife. What that literally is, is andra mas genikas. And that means a husband or a husband of one wife, a man of one wife. And a woman cannot fit that bill, so that's just a requirement right there. Temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. He has to manage his own household well, keep his children under control with dignity, and not be a new convert, lest you fall into the condemnation incurred by the devil.

That was deceit. So, let's see, a good reputation outside the church. And when we go to Titus, there's something else that is said in Titus that is, I'm looking for it, scanning for it.

Yeah, here we go. When it talks about the elder, it also says the overseer must be above reproach. God steward, not self-willed, not quick-tempered, not addicted to wine, not pugnacious, not fond of sordid gain, hospitable, loving what is good, sensible, just, devout, self-controlled, holding fast the faithful word, which is in accordance with the teaching, so that he will be able to exhort in sound doctrine and refute those who contradict. Now, that right there, Titus 1.9, I find that a lot of elders that I've seen online are not qualified to be elders because they can't exhort in sound doctrine and they can't refute error.

And some of the evidence of that would be in such things as the context of, say, Joyce Meyer. The men who are around her should rebuke her for a lot of the false things that she has taught over the years and they're failing to do that. I've seen these false teachers online and the elders in those respective churches should be dealing with that. The elders should be rebuking people for wanting female pastors and elders. They should be doing these things because this is what the scriptures teach and male eldership specifically, it's tied into the created order, not to cultural norms.

So that's it. And I find that most elders don't know their doctrine very well, period. Yeah, well even to branch off of that, I was having conversations with one of my brothers who I feel, he's a charismatic brother of mine, love him to death, we disagree on the foundational truths like this one. And he's like, I think the church is too rigid.

I'm like, well brother, your mistake, there's been a word said and that's it. Here's what you do. You ask him, what is your final authority of truth?

Ask him that question. And don't let him just say something and go on another topic. It has to be understood. Yeah, I mean he would say, I know he would say the Bible, but he acts a different way.

Let me work with you on this, okay? It has to be understood that the Bible is the final authority because it alone is inspired. Not his preferences, not his opinions, not his cultural expectations, but the word of God, you've got to push him towards that constantly. I've been friendly with the brother for three and a half years and I always debate it. Every time we talk, I bring it up because I know it's bad and poor and it won't bud. Just tell him, look, if he doesn't have the Bible as the final authority, then he's going to move into apostasy. He'll believe lies. Just tell him that.

Yeah, that's harsh words, true words. Appreciate your ministry, brother. Thanks, sir.

Thank you for answering my question. Yeah, you as well, Matt. Hey folks, we have four open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. Let's get to John from Georgia.

Hey John, welcome. Hey, how are you doing today, Matt? Doing all right. Hanging in there. Doing an hour in a treadmill today. Feeling pretty good, I guess.

I survived it. You've got to work harder. When you get older, you've got to work a lot harder. At your age, sir, pretty good. What's that?

At your age, that is pretty good. Well, you know, when your wife is standing behind you with a frying pan, you get in a treadmill, so that's how it works. Oh, yeah. But anyway, my question is the view on Calvinism that says we are all born with the nature of not being able to believe because of Adam's fall into sin. I would like to get your thoughts on, do you think that contradicts the scripture that says the child is not guilty of the father's sin? When it talks about that in the Old Testament, I forgot the reference. It's talking about if a father goes out and steals someone's mule. You can't go to the son and just punish him and beat him up for that or put him in jail because he's not the one who did it. That's different context than the idea of what we call federal headship.

Federal headship is the teaching that the male represents the descendants, not the female. Adam and Eve were in the garden. She sinned first by eating the fruit. She gave the fruit to Adam and then he sinned. But sin entered the world through Adam, Romans 5-12, not through Eve, not through both of them, but through him. Furthermore, in the garden, when they were both hiding, the pre-incarnate Christ came to the man and said, where are you? Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15-22, in Adam all die.

In Adam is a phrase of federal headship. So he represented everybody and that's what that means, in Adam all die. Now, when we go to Romans 5-19, it says this, for as through one man's disobedience, the many were made sinners. When it says the many were made sinners in the Greek, that is what's called the aorist passive indicative. The aorist deals with past tense. Passive means that it happened to them.

And indicative is just basically saying a statement of truth, a statement of fact. They were made sinners. Who's the many? Well, if you go to the many, Romans 5 is a really interesting chapter. But it's talking about those who were in Adam. So it happened to them that they were made sinners. And then Ephesians 2-3 says they were by nature children of wrath.

So that is the biblical position. Please hold on and we'll get right back to you after the break, okay? Hey folks, three open lines, 877-207-2276. Be right back. Welcome back, everybody. We have three open lines, 877-207-2276.

John from Georgia, you still there? Yes, sir. All right, so I gave you some info.

We ran out of time. So what'd you think? And you got any more questions about it?

Well, I'm gonna be honest with you. You gave more verses that kind of speak more to the answer and I was like, well, that explains it. So I mean, yeah, you did a great job explaining it. I appreciate it.

No problem at all. You know, you can go to CARM and look up Original Sin and you can check it out. So it's just part of basic Christian theology and a lot of churches deny it. And the reason they deny it, in my opinion, is because their humanist and their philosophy don't realize it. They want man to be the one who is in control of his own destiny. It's up to him to choose, up to him and his freedom, up to him and his will. And it's not up to him to inherit a sinful nature because that's something Adam did, not himself. So it's very humanistic and this creeps into the church a lot.

And, you know, what I do is teach biblical theology, the best of my ability, and show people the scriptures and show them exactly what it says and why. So that's the intention. Okay? Okay. Thank you so much. All right.

Well, God bless. Have a good day. You too. You too.

All right. Let's get to William from Charlotte, North Carolina. William, welcome. You're on the air. Yes, sir. Matt, how are you doing there? Doing okay. Hanging in there, man.

What do you got? I've never once, out of listening to your program, heard anybody come online and say, Well, you know, I'm going to be dishonest with you, Matt. Duh duh duh duh duh. Ever had anybody do that? They're going to be honest with me?

I can't recall, but I'm ready for 16. They say instead of, you know, they always say, Well, I'm going to be honest with you. And I'm thinking, Why would anybody not be honest with you? Yeah, well, that's the point. Yeah, it happens.

Do you know anyone in your circle or out of your circle, believe everything exactly the same way about the word that you do? No. No, no, of course not. Okay, well, that's that's an honest answer. Okay, I'm sure. So my question is, is how do you separate, for instance, when you hear other teachers, preachers, whatever you want to call them.

They teach or preach a lot of truth, but there's just the one thing or two things that you don't believe that they believe. Because it depends on what it is. It depends on what it is.

It depends on what it is. Okay. Okay. So, you know, I believe in, I believe in post-Trib rapture. Someone else believes in preacher rapture.

No big deal. Exactly. So how do you listen to that person and listen to all the other truths that they see? But there's this one thing they got to hang up with. Well, it depends on what it is. Anything else that they say? It depends on what it is.

Do you have anybody in mind? Yeah, because you mentioned something about George Meyer. Okay.

A few minutes ago. Yeah, she's a heretic. Okay. And that's what I was going to ask you.

What were some of the things that I needed to know in order, when I hear her a lot, because I used to listen to her a lot, but I have not listened to her in a long time. Okay. Because of the, I don't believe. Okay, how about if I give you, how about, let me just jump in and give you an example. Okay. I'll let you, I'm going to try and get this to work audio-wise, so hold on, okay? Okay. Hold on one second. Here we go.

All right. He could have helped himself up until the point where he said, I commend my spirit into your hands. At that point, he couldn't do nothing for himself anymore. He has become sin. He was no longer the son of God. He was sin. Now, did you hear that?

He was no longer the son of God. I did hear that. Okay, that's heresy. That's serious heresy. Yeah, it is. Okay. Now, how about this? Listen to this one, okay?

Okay. Do you know something? The minute that blood sacrifice was accepted, Jesus was the first human being that was ever born again. That was sin. I mean, it happened when he was in heaven.

Did you? So she says Jesus was born again. Wow. Okay.

Yeah. Now, let me read you something else out of her book. Okay. Okay.

Now, I'm not specifically just picking on her. I got you, but let me, let me, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Let me continue with this, okay? Okay. And then we'll tackle that. Okay. All right.

Okay. Because I'm going to show you an example of something. What she's going to say in the next two things is damnable heresy. And this is what we talk about when we talk about these false teachers. So this is what she said.

This is in the book, The Most Important Decision You'll Ever Make by Joyce Meyer, second printing, May 1993, page 35. Quote, he became our sacrifice and died on the cross. He did not stay dead.

He was in the grave three days. During that time he entered hell where you and I deserve to go legally because of our sin. He paid the price there.

Close quote. So she said he paid the price of the sacrifice in hell. No, the Bible says on the cross. Then she goes on to say in the next page of that same book, page 36, quote, Jesus paid on the cross and went to hell in my place. Then as God had promised, on the third day Jesus rose from the dead. The scene in the spirit realm went something like this. God rose up from the throne and said to demon power tormenting the sinless son of God. That's a different one I wanted to read. Here we go.

This is what she said. Page 37 of the same book. His spirit went to hell because that is where we deserve to go. There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth. So she is saying you cannot go to heaven unless you believe that Jesus finished the atonement and sacrifice in hell. Now, that means she's a false teacher. Now, I've never heard her repent. I've never heard her correct. I've never heard her retract it. You can still order the book from what I know.

I did it a couple of years ago, three years ago. Ordered it online. I'm just saying it's still available. Yeah, I know. I believe what you're saying. Okay, so that's heresy. Now, what if some teacher comes on and says that the preacher of rapture is true and you believe in post-trib rapture? Well, who cares? They're both within orthodoxy.

They don't deny an essential of the Christian faith like what she just did. Right. Yeah. Okay. I follow you.

So that's all it is. Romans 14, 1-12 says we can have differences of opinion on debatable issues. The debatable issues, no problem. Do you believe in charismatic gifts for today or not for today? Well, you can believe you're the one.

But when you start saying the atonement was finished in hell and that you can't be saved unless you believe that, that's redefining the gospel and denying the sufficiency of the cross. That's absolutely true. I believe that. Okay, I was just wondering how you separated people because I listen to the radio 24-7 when I'm in my vehicle. All right.

Yeah, and typically I'm traveling when you're on every day and I like the answers that you give because I know they go with the word. We've got a break. Are you done or do you want to hold? I'm done.

That's it. All right, buddy. Hey, thanks for calling, William.

All right, God bless. Hey, three open lines, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome back to the show.

Let's see, the next longest person waiting is Mr. Mims. Interesting. From North Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air.

What do you got? Hello. Hey, Matt. Hi. Mm-hmm. How you doing today? Oh, I recognize you. Of course, I like to ask you, babe.

Okay. Why are all religions based on nothing but lies? Do you think that we are ever coming to the true knowledge? Because I think every religion has a little bit of truth and the rest lies.

Hold on, hold on. You're saying all religions are all based on all lies? That includes Christianity. A little bit of truth and the rest lies. Oh, a little bit of truth.

Okay. So which are the lies in Christianity then? I think Christianity has been found, we're not one another, but I think the whole religion is based on nothing but lies. What are some of the lies? Give me one of the lies that is... The wrong day, the wrong name, everything. Wait, wait, wait, wait. The wrong... Wait, wait, wait.

Hey, hey, hey. Hold on. You've got one thing at a time here.

Don't give me verbal carpet bombing here. Okay. I'm going to ask you. You said the wrong day.

What do you mean by that? Yes, sir. The wrong worship day, the day is not even quite the right day. That's the Catholic day to worship on Sunday. No, they did that in the book of Acts in the Corinthian church on the first day of the week.

It's listed in the scriptures. But no, that's not the worship day. The worship day, remember the Sabbath day. Well, except that nine of the Ten Commandments are reiterated in the New Testament. The Sabbath is not. And people gather together to break bread, hear the word of God, to tithe on the Lord's day, which is called the first day of the week, Sunday.

But the Shabbat, the worship day, is Saturday. I just don't know what the scriptures say. Why are you ignoring what the scriptures teach?

No, I'm not ignoring it. That's just teaching versus saying. But the original Hebrew verses say different.

Okay. The original Hebrew says different? Do you read Hebrew? Well, it's translated into the Greville Bible. The Greville Bible, yummy.

Okay. What do you do when it says in Romans 14, 5-6, it's going to be one man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes a day, observes it for the Lord.

So every day is alike. And Paul says, let him be convinced in his own mind. So you're saying that he should not be convinced in his own mind? That he should just bow to... Why would Paul say one man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike?

Every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. If we're supposed to keep the Sabbath, why would Paul say that? Oh, could you keep the commandments?

Okay. If we're supposed to keep the Saturday Sabbath, why would Paul say one man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike? Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. Why would he say that if we're supposed to worship on Saturday?

Well, I'd go by the word, you know, if someone could change the commandment, I would go by the word commandment. Okay. So let me ask you a different question. Let me ask you another question. Okay.

Ready? Okay. Why would Paul... If we're supposed to worship on the Sabbath Saturday, why would Paul write in Romans 14 and 5, one man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike? Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind.

So why would he write that if we're supposed to worship on Saturday? Well, I don't know why, but... Okay.

You don't know why. Okay. So what we say then, because you don't know, you find by reading that, it takes several times to get through to you, that when the word of God is presented, then you don't have an answer for something that contradicts your position. What you automatically should do is say, I need to go study that, read the context, find out what it is, and I need to adjust my theology.

I don't have to, because I know the Shabbat days, they wouldn't have changed the day, the region, they wouldn't have changed at all. So why would Paul write that? Because that is how the Catholic Church.

Why would Paul write, one man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. Are you trying to convince people?

What? That you're supposed to be convincing their own mind. That's not right. So wait a minute. You're contradicting the Scripture?

He says, let this man be fully convinced in his own mind. You don't want that. No.

No, sir. They understood it in the commandment. Remember the Shabbat. Okay. But then we just thought, well, I need to go to the other commandment. If you're going to write that one, they said, remember the Shabbat and keep it holy. Okay.

Now, I'm going to tell you something that you need to understand. The word in Latin for covenant is testamentum. Old Testament, New Testament. The Old Covenant ceases at the death of Christ.

That's Hebrews 8, 13, Hebrews 9, 15 through 16. Now we're in a new covenant. In the new covenant, which is documented in the writings of the New Testament. In the new covenant, this is what Paul the Apostle says. So he says, you must be convinced in your own mind. Let one man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike.

Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. Romans 14, 5. The reason is because we're no longer under the law.

You are trying to say we're under that law. But you don't understand biblical theology. You don't understand the new covenant.

But, see, you don't have a fool. You go up under the book of Jubilee to say a difference. The world is worse upon that day they should die.

Did you hear what I said? The new covenant is in effect. The old covenant is no longer in effect. What you're quoting is the old covenant. You need to read Hebrews 8 and Hebrews 9.

Let me tell you something. You, like a lot of others who do this, don't understand biblical theology. You use the Old Testament to interpret the New Testament. You don't understand the new covenant requirements. You don't understand how the 9 out of the 10 commandments are reiterated and the one that is not is a Sabbath. You don't understand that Jesus is our Sabbath. You don't understand that we were in Christ and in Christ we died to the law.

Romans 6, 6, verse 8 and 7, 4. You use a lot of theology. You use a lot of theology.

You do not understand because you're in a cult. We're going to move along. I appreciate you calling, but we're going to move along because you're not bowing to the Word of God.

You're not trusting the Word of God. So we're just going to move along. Let's get to Peter from Wake Forest, North Carolina. Peter, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. Thank you.

God bless you. I'm not calling about something with the last caller, but I wonder if they're keeping all the festivals. You wonder what? If they're trying to keep all the festivals. Yeah, there's a whole other issue.

It's a whole other issue. I could go into James 2-10, James 3-10. I mean Galatians 3-10, yeah, I could go into that, but I just wanted to do one topic quicker.

Yeah, you did a nice job. But my question is I wonder if you could just discuss help with maybe a concise thought on dispensationalism versus covenant theology. What do you hold to in that? I'm a covenantalist because God works covenantally. Old Testament, New Testament, Old Covenant, New Covenant. God makes covenants with his people, and covenants have signs. He made a covenant with Adam. The sign was a tree. With Abraham, made a covenant.

The sign was circumcision. Noah, the covenant sign was a rainbow. Jesus establishes a new covenant, and the signs of that covenant and participation in it is a communion. The reason it's covenantal is because it works out of the very heart and mind of God. In Hebrews 13-20, it talks about the blood of the eternal covenant. I believe the eternal covenant is the inter-Trinitarian communion where the Father would give to the Son the elect, and the Son would sacrifice for them, and the Holy Spirit would apply the redemptive work.

So we see an inter-Trinitarian covenant. So God works based on his word. In the beginning, the word was with God. The word was God, and the word became flesh.

It's all intertwined. Dispensationalism, in my opinion, is an invention by man in order to find out how God works. Dispensationalism would say that God, excuse me, the church began at Pentecost. But covenantalism would say not necessarily, because we have to define the church.

If it's the body of those who are redeemed, then that would be with Adam, because he was redeemed. Right. And things like that.

You can get a lot more stuff. There's the break right there. But tell you what, we'll take a break. If you have any more questions or comments, we can talk about it some more, because it's an important issue.

All right. Hold on, everybody. We'll be right back after these messages.

Give me a call, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's see, let's get to Pete from Durham, North Carolina.

Pete, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, how you doing, man?

Doing okay. What do you got, big guy? I got two questions for you. What's your viewpoint on the two witnesses? In Revelation.

I suspect that it's going to be Enoch and Elijah, because both were taken up into heaven and they didn't die. Okay, that's what I was thinking. But I could be wrong. It just makes sense. Okay, and my other question was what's your viewpoint on the mark of the beast? The mark of the beast is probably a literal mark or implant into the hand and or the forehead of some sort, some way, in order to control people, which is what the left wants to do. The left wants to control people.

That's Marxism, socialism for control of individuals. Okay, I just wanted to see your viewpoint. I want to see your radio station every day, man. Oh, you are awesome. And hopefully I'll see you all in heaven, man.

Oh, by God's grace, that'd be great. All right. Be safe. Okay, God bless. All right, let's get to Alberto from Georgia.

Alberto, welcome. You're on the air. Yes, good evening, Matt Flick.

Good evening. Yes, people say it is wrong to buy slaves, even though you're trying to take them out of a bad condition, but it's still wrong to buy them. So how come it's okay for Jesus Christ to buy the sinner from slavery of sin and from the devil with his blood? I'm not understanding your question. I don't understand your question.

My question is, let me talk again the question then. They say, how come it's wrong, they say, for people to buy a slave, even though you're trying to take them out of a bad condition they're in, it's wrong to buy a slave. So how come it's okay for Jesus to buy us from slavery of sin or from the slavery of the devil's control? So how come it's okay for Jesus to do it and it's wrong for us human beings to buy a slave, even though you're trying to do a good deed to take them out of the bad condition.

First of all, this means, the thing I always prefer that people do, and you're not going to do this here, of course, but if we're having a discussion like this, I want people to write out their statement because it's a multi-leveled statement with conclusions and different aspects need to be addressed. And so when people say it's wrong to buy a slave, what I will say is show me that in Scripture. Now, the reason I say that is I want people to get in the habit of looking at the Word of God, finding things in Scripture. We know slaves were bought, so to speak, and things like that, but there's different kinds of slavery that were in the Bible. And then we have questions of why did God permit it, what kind of slavery was it, was it chattel? It was never chattel slavery, which is what was in America.

So there's all kinds of stuff that goes into this sensitive topic. Now, when it talks about buying a slave, it's talking about buying the money or the product. It's not saying in the Bible, just so people know, that the slave was himself or herself actual property. And the reason we know that is because an escaped slave was not to be returned as was property. Property was to be returned to the rightful owner, but an escaped slave was not to be returned.

If he's property or she is property, then he would have to be returned. But he wasn't, because he's not considered property in that sense. When it talks about buying a slave and such, it's talking about the issue of the work that is produced.

And a lot of people don't know that. And I forget what the verse is about the slave and issues. It says, for he is his money, is the phrase that follows it.

And so there's that. So Jesus buys us because the sense is sin is a legal debt to God. And so what has happened is Jesus is the one who makes a payment, so to speak, to God the Father on our behalf because we are in him, 1 Corinthians 15, 22, Romans 5, 18, we are in him and we died with him, Romans 6, 6. We're crucified with him, Romans 6, 8.

And therefore, he has represented us, and so he has bought us in the sense that our sin debt was transferred to him, 1 Peter 2, 24, Colossians 2, 14, canceled on the cross, and that's how he bought us with his payment of his own blood. I don't know if that makes sense. Mm-hmm. I know that. So I understand what you're saying, because I was in the video, Dr. Brown and Dr. Josh, they're discussing, like you said, the most different levels of slavery. And I understand that they say that that's chattel slavery. They've got a different culture, they've got different ways of slaves. Well, they had slaves, the slaves couldn't be beaten to death. Right.

You know what I mean? You could be beaten, but they don't understand. People don't understand that, yeah, slaves could be beaten, but they weren't the only ones that were beaten.

Mm-hmm. Others could be beaten. And I'm not saying it was all okay, it's just that this happened. It wasn't just limited to slaves, it was limited to Israelites, too.

I've got the references someplace, I've written articles on it, and I was surprised to find it applies to everybody. How about that? Yeah, that was a surprise. Yeah, I understand. They could beat them for a long time, then beat them to death, or beat them in the head. Right, because they did beat them, and if they beat them to death, then the one who did it is judged and punished.

And if he damages, like, an eye or knocks out a tooth, the slave is to go free. Yeah, exactly. All right. Exactly.

All right, you agree with the same eye to eye? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, it's... Where's the article at?

Well, you can just go to... One of the things you can do, I think the quick and slick thing to do is just go to the cut and paste section of Karm and look up slavery, or just go to the search engine on Karm and look up slavery. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you.

You'll see. All right, man. Well, God bless, buddy. Okay. All right. Take care. All right. Let's get to Peter from Wake Forest, North Carolina, whom we lost. And I hope he didn't get raptured.

That'd be bad news for me. All right. Let's get to Dave from Charlotte, North Carolina. Uh-oh.

Maybe he got raptured, too. And let's see. Let's try... We have four open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. Janice from Durham, North Carolina. Janice, welcome.

You're on the air. Well, thank you. Thank you. You have a hard job, but you're doing a great job. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. You have a hard job. But I think a lot of people just need to read the Bible more. But anyway, what I wanted to ask you, God bless you for what you're doing.

And I've just found your radio station, and I love it. Oh, good. I wanted to ask you, in the 12 tribes that are listed in Genesis and the ones that's listed in Revelation, Dan, the tribe of Dan is in Genesis, but Joseph's son Manasseh is listed, and Dan is left out in Revelation. Do you know why? I mean... I think I do.

I will... Okay. Because I was wondering, I lined them up, and I said Dan is over in Genesis, and over Manasseh, Joseph's son is over in Revelation. So I said, I'm going to call Dan and see if he can get me straight on that.

I think the reason was because the Danites then introduced idolatry. Okay. All right. So... Huh? Yeah, and I'm trying to remember it, because I remember hearing this, that they did something with idolatry, and this might be the reason they were excluded from the list. Yes.

Okay. And I remember reading that they were in idolatry. Okay, so great.

It had hit my mind one time that that's what happened, but I wanted to make sure I got it from somebody else, because I read the Word, and I love it, and it's just the most... I tell my grandchildren and children, it's the greatest thing on this earth that God left behind other than the Holy Spirit, and His Spirit in us and all, but the Word of God is the greatest thing that we can do in our life, is to read and try to understand the Word of God. And thank you for being there to help us understand it. Thank you so much. God bless you, and have a wonderful day. You too, Janice. And I wish we were neighbors.

You're awesome. Oh, I can't find too many people who want to learn about the Bible or want to talk the Bible. They're my family.

They just don't understand it. Well, I love teaching the Bible. I love talking about the Bible.

It's awesome. And the more you read it, the more you understand it, and you go back. Some things make my heart so happy when I read it.

I've read it before, but then I go back and read it, and I can understand it more, and that just, oh, it just makes me so happy. All right. God bless you, and have a wonderful day.

Keep up the great work you're doing. All right. Well, thanks, Janice. God bless. All right. Thanks.

God bless. All right. Bye-bye. Bye.

All right. Well, let's get to Nelson from Bakersfield, North Carolina. Bakersfield, North Carolina. Interesting.

Welcome. You're on the air. Bakersfield, California. California. I'm going, wait a minute.

That's what I thought. It threw me off. All right. So, what do you got, buddy? I think we got a few minutes, but I just wanted to ask, because the next three days, tomorrow until Friday, we're having a workshop where we're going to be sharing how to effectively witness the Gospel. So, I'm asking, my question is, can you please, I mean, I know God has shown me, but I would like your opinion for this. Well, I don't know how to effectively do it. I know how to present the truth, so to have it to be effective, that's what God does, because the word of God is strong and will not come back empty without accomplishing what he desires, Isaiah 55, 11.

So I can't make it effective, but God does. So the thing that I say is the three things, present law, present Gospel, present the cost. You got to know why they're guilty.

Have you lied? You're guilty. There's a judgment coming. The judgment is eternal damnation. Jesus Christ, God in flesh, he's the one who died on the cross, et cetera, our sins were transferred to him, and he died with them, and you have to receive it by faith. If you don't receive him, actually receive him, it's not the it, it's him you receive. Receive him and his sacrifice by faith, then the judgment that's staying on you, it will be gone. So you have to count the cost of what you're getting into, because Jesus told us to.

Count that cost. You've got to know what you're getting into. And so that's one of the things that I do that I never find anybody else doing. You know, hey, if you become a Christian, God's going to take you seriously, he'll change you, he'll work through you, he'll mold you, that's what it is, and he wants you to follow him. Well, I don't want to do that. Well then don't. And you'll face God on your own on the day of judgment. See the reason I do that is because, I know I'm talking quickly, almost out of time, is because I don't want someone to give Jesus a try. It didn't work after two weeks, so now they're inoculated from Christianity.

I want them to know to get in. That's what I'm saying. And there's the music. We'll call back tomorrow and talk more about it, okay? Okay. Thank you, Matt. God bless you. God bless you, man.

Okay. Hey folks, we are out of time. Joe from Oak Ridge, North Carolina called back tomorrow about the best way to study the Bible, because that's a good topic. Hey folks, may the Lord bless you by his grace, back on there tomorrow, and we'll talk to you then. God bless everybody. See you. Bye. This is a program powered by the Truth Network.