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They go, yeah, I know, but I'm a researcher, I've got to go. So, anyway, so that's what I'm going to be doing and hopefully it'll be interesting. I'm going because it kind of works out in the schedule, where to go.
I've got a pastor who wants to go, Rudy, if you're listening. So we're going to be having a good time and fellowshipping and things like that. I want to see what's going on.
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If it would be anybody, it would be Luke Wayne, and he works with me at the CARM Intergalactic Headquarters, and he's a good guy and he's a lot better looking than I am. I have a face for radio. He's got a better face for radio, so that'll be fun. Let's see. We'll see if that happens, though.
We don't know. No guarantee, but it would be fun to have him on while I'm out driving. I could listen. I know I could do. I could call in and do my ER tickler voice, you know. Hey, how are you? And then ask them some tough questions, see what happens.
That'd be fun, but I wouldn't do it. Anyway, three open lines if you want to give me a call. 877-207-2276. Let's get on the line here with Charles from Raleigh, North Carolina. Charles, welcome.
You're on the air. Hey, Matt, how are you doing today? Doing all right by God's grace, man. I'm hanging in there, buddy.
What do you got? So I heard a sermon the other day, and a pastor was, he was talking about the punishment that was bestowed upon Eve and Adam in the garden in addition to being thrown out. His theory was, he said that in addition to eating of the fruit, that Eve actually had relations with Satan or a child, which was Cain, and he used a verse in 1 John to collaborate that, and he said that's why Eve was sentenced to painful birth, and that's what he was, and I forgot what verse that is in chapter 3, he was saying that your seed, first of all, he said, you and Satan will be enemies because they had the relations, and you will want the man I originally gave for you, which was Adam, and he will rule over you. He said that your, so you know where I'm going with this.
So let me help you out. That pastor should step down and never speak again, because he does not know what the scriptures teach, he does not know what the truth is, he's teaching false doctrine. A guy couldn't argue his way to have a wet paper bag. If the opening was there, a neon light was pointing the way out, and he had a rope with people pulling. So by any chance was it on TV or what? It was on YouTube.
There's several of them on YouTube. Yeah, so this is called the serpent seed doctrine, and it's a load of guvna, that's a Polish word, and you can imagine what it is, and it's bad, it's stupid, okay? It is ridiculous. Now look, Genesis 4.1, now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. Okay? Refutes it right there. Done. Right there.
Right there. So it says that Adam had relations with his wife Eve, and she produced Cain. So, obviously, the people who hold to the moronic Cainite theory, the stupid idea that Eve and Satan had relations, apparently can't read any further than their myopic rigidity allows them to. And it's stupidity. And I have to say it like it is.
It is. It's stupid, stupid, dumb, and why do these people not look at God's word, and then they start getting into this idiocy? I mean, my spiritual Tourette's wants to kick in, okay?
I'm trying to be nice, I'm on the radio. So these guys, you know, get this out of the book of Moronicals, okay? Second Moronicals is where they get it, and they shouldn't be allowed to preach and teach because it's just false doctrine. One of the things that comes out of this is the descendants of the Cainites. They're the wicked people. Oh, and I've been called a Cainite because I don't agree with their doctrine. It is, you know, it just, it's like you and I could be out there, and you could get on your, you know, hands and knees behind them, and I'd push them over you, you know?
I was like, shut up! It's just, it's so stupid, okay? And Shepherd's Chapel teaches this, and I've warned people about Shepherd's Chapel, and this foolishness, and it's foolishness to teach this. It's foolishness, because Genesis 4-1 refutes it. But I've heard them say, no, they had relations, but it was because she had relations with Satan that she was really pregnant with Satan. It's like, are you crazy?
Look what the text says. They could, you know, just memorize it out of the book of Moronicals. And, or, it's called, with a chapter, sub-chapter called Stupidification. So, it's just ridiculous. Ayayayaya. And you know, and you know, he was so convincing with it.
I mean, he had it all put together. It made me start to wonder. So I thank you for clearing that off for me.
Well, you know, it's just like, I want to walk out to these people and go, excuse me, you know, and then slap them upside the head. Knock that off. It's refuted by Genesis 4-1.
It is so bad. It's right there. The man had relations with his wife Eve.
And she conceived and gave birth to Cain. What's wrong with these guys? What is so wrong with these guys they can't get it?
I'll tell you what's wrong with them. They submit the word of God to their stupid, stupid ideology. And then they, what they do, they twist a credit. I'm sorry, there's a verse. He read 1 John 3 or something and it says, it says that Cain is of Satan. Yes. What, meaning he's of Satan in his servitude or it's not talking about lineage or anything like that. Of course, now that I know better.
You know, the evil one who slew his brother. See, that means that they had relations, even though it specifically says, specifically and clearly in Genesis 4-1 what it is. Now, watch this. Now, this is what they'll also go here. They'll also go here. They'll go to, let's see, Matthew 13. Okay, I use this verse a lot, 30. Okay, and it talks about the wheat and the tares, right, in the kingdom. The wheat and the Christians, the tares are the Cainites.
They're the descendants of Cain. It's just, you know, this is when I'm going to get out my t-shirt that says, so much heresy, so little time. You know, it's just, it's one of the few things that just irks me. It is so stupid.
It is so stupid. And yet these guys will get up there and they'll mess people up. They'll mess them up. They take parts of words.
They take part of this word, part of that word. They'll see what it says. Shut up. Man, you know, get out of the pulpit and just, you know, go drive a truck.
You know, you don't belong in the pulpit. Okay, I feel a little bit better now. Thank you so much, Matt.
I'm going to go back and read all of Genesis. I feel as though I need to do that. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Matt. You're welcome, buddy. All right, God bless.
All right. You know, folks, look, there's a lot of idiocy out there on TV. On Sunday mornings, sometimes I'll watch the religious channels, but I don't really like to because it's a day of rest. And I start yelling at the TV because there's so much stupidity, so much on there.
And I just want to relax. But here's a good example. The Kenite Theory, oh, golly, you know, what are they going to think of next? You know, I could think of it.
The Anunnaki, you know, had relations with Goliath's stepchild, you know, and that's who the commies are. Who knows? People believe almost anything to try and make it sound convincing.
And I could make something like that actually work out of Scripture by going through and looking at Hebrew words that sound in English when pronounced like English things and then create a theology out of it, make it sound good, put pictures in there, say it confidently, and I'll tell you, people would believe it. They would. They believe anything.
That's why they believe in socialism. All right, let's get to Alberto from Georgia. Alberto, welcome. You're on the air.
Well, good evening, Matt Slick. My question is why do so many, for example, churches, even though they've got their Sunday school material and they believe a doctrinal belief by their organization, yet they contradict themselves among their southern membership? Well, it depends what they're contradicting. Now, first of all, some Pentecostal churches are good and some are not good. Now, Pentecostalism tends to be over-emotional and they misuse the charismatic gifts, but it doesn't mean that they are not Christian. But then there's Pentecostal groups like United Pentecostal and they are a cult, so just stay away from them. And then some people can have contradictory ideas, like some groups of Christians can say that the rapture happens pre-trib and some can say it's post-trib. Well, those views contradict each other, but it's okay to have those contradictory views because it doesn't invalidate their Christianity. But if you were to contradict on who Christ is, then that's a problem, so it depends what the issues are. So when you say Pentecostal churches, which ones? And contradictions, which ones?
You see? Now, I have another problem sometimes with pastors. Sometimes they favor you only when you go along with their understanding, you don't disagree with them, then you're all right standing with them.
But then if you disagree with them, then automatically you become your... What's arrogance? So even though you try to show them the truth, sometimes they'll use the pulpit to beat you down or use the church members as their bulldogs to attack you too. Yeah, that's abuse.
So you're not trying to bring the truth. Yeah, that's spiritual abuse. Right, you should never point somebody out in the pulpit and ridicule them. Well, let me say, I have done it to a few of my friends when I talk about the nature of sin, and I'll say, my friend Bob over here, you aren't about sin, talk to him.
And people laugh, okay? That kind of stuff is okay. But you don't want to use the pulpit as a vendetta or as a means to get at somebody in the church because you don't like what they've said. That's a spiritual abuse.
There are a lot of pastors out there who should not be pastors because they cannot discern truth from error, don't know the biblical theological perspective necessary, don't have a good theological foundation, and also abuse their power in the pulpit. It happens, okay? Not all of them, but there's enough. There's a problem. Mm-hmm. Yeah, because that wouldn't be like that. That's like they'll start talking every three months in the pool. They'll make fun of you from the congregation, and the congregation says amen and amen. Yeah, that's not good.
That's spiritual abuse. Hey, we've got a break, buddy, okay? All right, man? All right. All right, Alberto, God bless, buddy.
Okay. Hey, folks, two open lines, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back after these messages. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show.
We have one open line if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. Let's get to Adrian from Greensboro, North Carolina, whom we just lost. And let's try the next longest is Eric from Canada. Eric, welcome here. This is Matt Slick. Hey. Back to the show.
Are you there? Eric. Eric.
You've got a little feedback there. I know that. So, waiting for you.
A little bit longer. Eric. I guess he's not there listening.
No? Eric. Eric.
Two, one. We'll put them on hold. All right. Let's get to Kerry from Greensboro, North Carolina. Kerry, welcome. You're on the air. Hello. Hello.
Thank you for taking my call. I heard you make a comment just a moment ago about socialism at the end of another comment you were making to the gentleman. But what is your take on socialism? Is this something that you're not proactive for?
Or is there some correlation to the Bible that I'm not aware of? It's bad. Socialism is... Socialism, which includes Medicare and Social Security. That's bad. Yeah.
Well, there are... Okay. We know what socialism is.
Do you know what it is? Real socialism? Well, sure. When the government is helping, well, yeah, but don't take it. Socialism is not communism.
So, let's don't confuse the audience by making one and the same. They're not. Can you define socialism? Certainly. Where the government is helping the people? Where the government is putting the bill for something?
Even though we have paid into these two programs... Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
I'm sorry. You didn't define it. When the government is helping? Okay, then you define it, you're not going to like what I say. No, that's communism, that's democracy, that's oligarchy... That's not communism. Communism... Kerry...
Communism takes and takes. Kerry... Kerry. Kerry! Kerry. Kerry! Yes, I'm listening.
Can you...? No, you're not. You said it's when the government helps somebody. If that's all socialism is, then communism fits. Then democracy fits. Then an oligarchy fits.
Because then... Socialism doesn't help anyone, no. I have to put her on hold because she won't listen. She's not listening. Folks, this is going to get interesting, but if she can't listen, we can't have a conversation. Now, Carrie, you're back on the air. Are you there? I'm here, now I'm going to listen, and I'd like to hear you complain without asking me a question. Okay, Carrie, please, just be patient, okay?
I'm trying to work with you. Socialism is a political and social system in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social and centralized governmental control. Did you know that? Yes, I have heard that definition or the approximate definition from several sources. The answer is yes or no. You've heard it or not, okay?
I said yes before I pressed it. A socialist economy does not encourage private ownership of property and businesses but prefers governmental ownership and control of the economy for the benefit of its members. Do you agree that that's a good thing, that the government should control private businesses? That the property is reduced? No, I don't agree with that. I have a small business. That's what socialism is.
You have to think about something. Picture a scale and you have the government control on one side and private rights on the other and they're equally balanced. Now, the more that socialism increases, the heavier it gets, the less your freedoms are. The more socialism there is, the less freedoms you have because if the socialism...
Most people don't know what it is. All they're taught is socialism is good. It's a plot by the leftists to overthrow our country because socialism is one step away from communism. Communism is complete state control. Socialism is partial state control but when people get control, they don't give it up. They want more control because the more control they get, the more laws they have to pass in order to keep that control, which means you have less freedom. This is what happens historically in socialist systems.
They will tell you in your business... But that hasn't happened. It hasn't happened here?
Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding you and I'm afraid in your definition, I'm trying to say something now. Carrie, you said it hasn't happened here.
I'm here. But I'm telling you what happens in socialist systems and you ignore that and say it hasn't happened here. It is beginning to and it's going to. It's going to get worse. Socialism always, in the history of the countries, means a lack of proper distribution of goods and inflation.
This is how it works. You don't know what socialism has done. You don't know what it is.
Well, I think I study pretty much, but listen to that. It concerns me that when you describe socialism as you do in connection with communism, people are not going to give up social security and or Medicare. I didn't say... We shouldn't give up Medicaid. Excuse me, Carrie.
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but you do conflate the two. I had to mute her. She's not listening again.
She's put words in my mouth. I did not say no social security. I did not say no Medicare.
I did not say that. You're defining what socialism is. She's missing the point. She's thinking that socialism is good because of social security.
That's what she's saying, but that's not the point of what socialism is. Are you still there, Carrie? Yes, I'm still here, but that's not right.
You get to cut me off and... Yes, I do. Yes, I do. I do.
I just did it again. You see, you have to be careful, Carrie. It's my show, not your show, and if you're not going to be polite, then we're not going to have a conversation.
The rest of us. Okay. Are you there now? Your show is there, Matt, because of all the rest of us who do listen, and so if you cut me off again... Are you a Christian, Carrie? Carrie, are you Christian? Yes, I'm certainly a great believer in our Lord God of the Holy Bible, the same God I used to get me. Carrie.
Carrie. Yes. Are you trying to confiscate your guns? What do you think of that? What do you think of that?
Is that good? I have not seen in socialism where anyone's trying to confiscate this. Okay.
The socialist countries around the world, look at them. I'm... Carrie... Matt, I'm talking in the US. Okay. Okay.
She thinks... Oh, man. She thinks because it hasn't happened here yet that it doesn't matter what happens everywhere else with socialism as though somehow it's going to be different here. It's just not good thinking. Carrie, I asked you a specific question.
Is it okay with you in the socialist regimes that have happened in every country that become socialistic that confiscate weapons? Are you okay with that? I said no.
Is it yet? No? Okay. So then why is it the left is so... No. No.
I got you. Why is it the leftist agenda and the leftist socialist democrats are trying to get rid of our guns? Why are they trying to do that? I don't agree with you there, but I don't think we need an MR-15 or 14 to hunt a deer. Yes, they are.
They are. No. Oh, so you... You know what the second amendment's for?
The second amendment is to protect us from an oppressive government. Do you know that? Carrie, you don't study. Yes, Matt. We got a break.
Let's continue with this after the break if she's still around. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.
This is Matt Slick. All right, everybody. Welcome back to the show.
Let's see how this goes. Carrie, are you still there? Yes. All right. Now, Carrie, socialism contradicts scripture. Okay. Where? Socialism... Where does it contradict?
Good. Socialism does not prefer a representative form of government. You have to understand what happens in socialism. The control gradually filters and moves towards a few people in power who then decide the production of means of production and distribution.
And in order to keep the people in line who disagree, laws have to be passed to keep them in line. And therefore, the representative form of government eventually fails completely. And the representative form of government is found in Exodus 18. Self-governance is in Matthew 18, but you can't self-govern yourself when the socialist system is in control of the means of production and is confiscating private businesses and controlling how they are to be working and where their goods are to be going to. socialism also reduces, if not confiscates, private property rights. But yet, in Exodus 20, we're supposed to have private property.
It reduces the principles of liberty and freedom by increasing its own power. And yet, we're supposed to not be slave of anybody, we're to have liberty. Second Corinthians 3 talks about this. The Bible teaches capitalist principles, believe it or not. The parable of the landowner with the servants in charge in Matthew 21.
And he has the parable of the talents where the master gives to his servants in Matthew 25. A lot of people are completely unaware that the Puritans, when they came to this country specifically, specifically, it's documented, specifically asked the ministers to go through the scriptures, the word of God, and derive out of the word of God a biblical governmental system. And this is what became instituted in the Constitution.
People don't know this. And we also have the right of self-defense. And as Christians, we have the right to bear weapons.
Jesus says in Luke 22, 36, he says, by a sword, we have the right of self-defense. All the time inside of socialist countries, all of them, they get rid of weapons, they confiscate property, and they tell you what you can and cannot produce and how to produce it. Are you aware of this, Carrie?
Yes, yes, I am. And why would you support socialism? I think that you create a sense of fear mongering between what is socialism and what is communism, and you combine the two, conflate the two.
I don't believe that the perfect world that we wish to live in is not going to happen here until Jesus returns. So with that in mind, we have to make the best of what is here to us. Things like Social Security have raised the livelihood of people, not just in old age, but people who are crippled before they ever hit 62, have something to fall back on because of Social Security. People have something to fall back on with Medicare. These are social programs.
I get that. But I'm not talking about those things that the government comes in and is supposed to help us out. Those are the things that I called into you about, because most people know that those are socialistic programs, and you all, people and politicians, as do preachers, create a fear over socialism when they take socialism to an extreme, where we all do.
Nobody wants to be taken over, but when you define it as you do, you keep saying, Terry, Matt, you make it hard to talk to you. Good, because I want you to understand what socialism is, folks. It is an evil system. Socialism is unbiblical. It's against scripture.
It does not work. In 1992, Venezuela was the third richest country in the hemisphere. In 1997, they were the largest purchasers of F-150 trucks. In 1998, Hugo Chavez, elected president of the Bolivarian Revolution, brought in socialist principles, just socialist principles and policies. In 2001, Chavez passed laws aimed at the redistribution of land and wealth. That is socialism. That's what socialism is, the redistribution of land and wealth. In 2001, the socialist president became an income equality. Now that's what they did. They voted for socialist president and income equality. That's not the biblical thing.
You earn and you work hard and you reap the benefits or the penalties of your successes and failures. Others are supposed to help you, but the government's not obligated to come in and bail you out. In 2004, private healthcare is completely socialized. In 2005, Chavez signs a decree to eliminate large estates and remove the removal of private property.
In 2005, fines and prison terms for those in the media who criticize public figures. In 2006, Chavez shifts military buying from U.S. to Russia. In 2007, he announced the key energy and telecommunications companies would be nationalized. I read up on this even more. He was saying to people like Exxon and Mobil, who had energy, who put money into and infrastructure into Venezuela, he confiscated it and said, nope, we want it. Basically, it's theft. Then he said all higher education becomes free.
That was in 2007. All this sounds so great, socialist, right? Here's the real world where it was happening. In 2007, Exxon, Mobil, and ConocoPhillips refused to hand over control of operations of the Venezuelan government, and they're kicked out of the country. In 2009, socialists banned private ownership of guns.
Why would they do that? Because if you have guns, you can resist, and the socialists don't want you to resist because they're in power. When they're in power, they don't give up power. In 2009, voters approved a plan to abolish term limits.
Why? Because they're in control of the media and they got brainwashed. 2012, government enforces price controls on basic goods to battle inflation. 2012, Bernie Sanders praises Venezuela as the American dream, and it goes on and on and on, and millions have left Venezuela because of socialism. It's not just the idea of having a little bit of a fallback for Social Security, retirement.
That's not what we're talking about. Socialism is unbiblical. Socialism is dangerous. Socialism is ungodly, and it is a step closer to communism.
People have to stand up and shout about it, and people in the pulpits should also preach on it and educate the people about what socialism is. Kelly from Los Angeles, welcome, if you're on the air. Oh, wait, is that for... Kelly, you're on the air.
Hello? Oh, there we go. Okay, okay. All right, I'm sorry. I had put the phone down because I thought you was going to take up the whole show with her. Okay. No, it's just, it gets me going. I do not get angry. I'm going to make it quick because I want to be considerate. Matt, there have been times where I've gone through a repetitive season.
I keep seeing the same season over and over and over again, and I've heard quite a few people say, well, maybe you're not learning a particular lesson that needs to be learned. You're not passing a test. My question is, would God give you a test and not give you the heads up that you're taking a test? Sure. Sure, he would put you through something and you'd not know what it is. He doesn't inform us, hey, I'm going to give you a test. It's going to come up in three months, two months, one month.
You ready? Here it goes. No, not like that. He doesn't do that. So all of a sudden you find yourself in a car accident and you're in the hospital and now you have to trust God to pay the bills or you get sick or whatever, or you just feel spiritually dry and he's allowing something to happen for a reason in his sovereignty. Oh yeah.
He doesn't always let you know. Oh, so that's what tests are, so it's like a testing of faith? Yes. It's a test for your faith to develop your faith so that it might be increased.
Yes. The testing of your faith. I thought it was some kind of tough test. I thought it was a test.
Sometimes I'd be on my best behavior thinking like I don't want to fail a test, but so it's a testing of your faith. Okay. Okay.
No, no, no. Look, consider it all. This is James 1 verses 2 and 3. It says, consider it all joy, my brother, when you encounter various trials or tests, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. It continues.
Endurance has its perfect result so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. So you go to James chapter 1 verses 2, 3, and 4. So James is writing, people are going through testing, difficult times, and this is what's going to happen as socialism rises in America and our morality is on a decrease, on a decline, and leftists are out there trying to control everything, whether defunding the police and funding the leftist terrorists domestically. We're going to be in a lot of trouble. So it's coming.
Persecution's coming. All right. I'm telling people. Thank you, Matt. All right. You're welcome. Okay.
God bless you. All right. Bye-bye.
Okay. Bye. See you later. Bye-bye. Bye. All right. You're welcome. Thank you. All right. Welcome back to the lively Matt Slick live show. Let's get to Richard from North Carolina. but you're welcome you're on the air a map uh... appear at a good evening tonight i don't know what mike question uh... doesn't raise your blood pressure as part of the uh... very first question i hate socialism i hate it i know what's going to do this country i know it's been destroyed this country and the useful idiots or march in downhill lockstep to the trumpet call of socialistic freedom and it's really oppression when i say useful idiots it's a term from i think it's stalin who said that they call the people who were brainwashed into promoting their their his agenda he called him useful idiots well speaking of russia i think that's a good segue into my question so i uh... about a year ago encountered uh... apologetic challenge uh... to my face uh... from andy eastern orthodox collagen i'd never studied or met uh... anyone who is eastern orthodox prior and i dealt with roman catholics before and uh... whatever i would try to discuss the bible with him or some of his co-peritioners as i got to you know discussing particular doctrinal issues uh... the issue of like well that's just your private interpretation you're not part of the one true church where is your bishop and they would use the whole apostolic succession line but one thing that you know sort of challenge them on and i thought the bait recently between uh... doctor gavin orton from gospel coalition uh... with a father patrick ramsey who is uh... eastern orthodox priest out of england i believe they're discussing the issue of the two-fold ministry versus the three-fold i guess model for the office of ministry of the two-fold office being elder and deacon and then the three-fold being the chef pre flash elder and then we can and so uh... i had a question just in regards to titus chapter one uh... verses five through seven uh... one of the lines that i've heard from eastern orthodox as well so i will try this was a bishop and you see god is asking him to appoint elders in every city but what it seems to me is that the elders that are mentioned in verse five of chapter one and titus what it mentioned the overseer inverse seven it's essentially talking about the same category right which very good the reason this distinction i think is important is because of there's just a two-fold office of ministry this whole idea of apostolic succession from bishop sort of goes out the window very good i'm i'm impressed you got it right by the chapter one verses five to seven it says appoint elders in every city they directed you and it goes down and it says for the overseer when that's a piscopas in the greek which is bishop so elders as presbytery and uh... overseer or bishop is is a piscopas so what they do mistakenly is they have three offices elders bishops and priests but priest there is no priestly office in the new testament except for christ's high priestly office and we are kings and priests uh... this is called the priests are all believers and so we have a generic role but they have an elevation of the priesthood at the roman catholic church so uh... well yeah i've talked about this real quick at that yeah i think that there's a i think maybe you misspoke spoke so they have bishops and then they conflate priest and elders since the term priest comes from that's a good word and i still have to get but they can see do the deacons to but you understand is different uh... quite a few variations of eastern orthodoxy and there is bad as roman catholicism inter-theology they also killed the church fathers of church fathers of the true understanding and they pick and choose which which offers a lot and um... yeah i think that your interactions with jay dyer and yesterday have been quite testing i have discovered this uh... section of the internet of uh... quote-unquote warfare bros who are very aggressive and uh... very unChrist-like uh... and they're back eight-year toward the protestants in particular yeah i i do i i look up and they don't want to talk to me very often because i ask them difficult questions and i say show me this in the word of God show me this in scripture and incidentally they the guy misquoted a verse to you first uh... second peter one twenty because when you interpret scripture they'll say you've just uh... you know you can't let your own private reputation with a misquoting it it says know this first of all that no prophecy of scripture it is a scripture prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation it's the prophecy that's dealing with the issue of the scriptures they get it wrong all the time and often when they quote that verse i'll say hey did you hear that and they go what well you know what everything shall cover strategic context you can hear that and uh... they don't like that but i do so you always going to check what they say don't assume that the scriptures that they're quoting recording right recording context always check the context always don't trust them just real quick before uh... alleged to go uh... so another passage scripture that seems to bring up this issue uh... acts chapter twenty it's on call speaking to me elders of that since uh... you're coming to meet him at my latest before he's getting ready to go on that very arduous eventual journey to rome and uh... in verse seventeen it talks about how he assembled the elders and then down to first twenty eight uh... it seems to be that uh... he is referring to those elders as the bishop's of the church and that they are just after or shepherd the flock of god said the three-term pastor elder and bishop you seem to be referring to one office but just sort of good a title versus a role person that's right that is correct very good i wasn't aware of that in acts twenty i wasn't itis good job for you okay you are looking at the word and you're going with the word and you're finding out that what they're saying is not grounded in scripture so good for you uh... well i i i i thought my colleague and you know government co-peritioners and i'm praying for them because of starting to realize just like uh... my encounters with rome catholics you know ten years ago that uh... he's orthodox well they do you have a lot of distinctions from rome uh... there's a lot of overlap in terms of uh... the things that are wrong with their system so to real logically and marion latry the same thing they could lose their salvation you keep it by being good in following certain rules and belong to the true church and then they have a comic clap uh... kind of duals which is that they love icons and it's just which is just depends so much to the word of god just like the catholics to complete christ dot it's like what he had prepared earlier i think the uh... i think the influence of these author brothers growing particularly to see the woke movement with an evangelicalism they're trying to take people off at the edges yes they are right that we want about them as well to try to weaken faith that predators come after the week of the flock to the job of the pastor to guard them to teach them right well thank you matt for answer my question yep all right richard god bless okay let's get over to eric if he's still there after half hour you still there eric here yeah i am hello i'm back the letterman yes i'm sorry for keeping you so long here i'd like to wait uh... okay what do you got them are here yes i do okay go i'm i'm wondering did the month of religion start with their neighbor uh... mohammed was born in five seventy and then uh... uh... and i think it's six ten is when he got the uh... the message in the came up here and then six thirteen is his first real preaching so probably say around six ten out of the muslims are going to tell you that it was with abraham at the true islam now they didn't teach what uh... but it's not teaches and so uh... came with with muslims if they don't see that you know the world of something who doesn't think that you could actually add up uh... appropriate child with the concubine could if they're laughing and then it and put it with two right over thirteen years difference and uh... was hagar and or ishmael and they say that they are probably the the uh... father of the arabic nations but there's already around at that time but uh... this would have seriously or if it's okay thirteen to number of sin incidentally in the bible and so ishmael was born first to hagar and then isaac but god said to abraham take your only begotten son isaac angle offer on the hill so we call me on the gun interesting and i thank you for your show i really enjoy watching it but you do it by god bless you god bless you too all right let's get to jim all from north carolina jim all welcome you're on the air body uh... record without there's always uh... i had uh... who think that i want to come out or short on time so i'll try to get to a real quick let's do our first of all other callers waiting so this is the one listening to them okay go ahead i guess uh... well i don't think uh... quickly and uh... that that lady i was talking about social israel there are plenty more independent now uh... people really look at uh... the liberal agenda it is not favor or purple to the christians uh... both of them same thing so they got out they got a real like that that being said uh... next question is uh... it's about how can i frame it uh... all uh... from a like this adam and eve uh... a correct question broke before about crops being there and that they were able to buy down parts of the bible how do we get our cap but i don't know better than me it was through moses and we don't know exactly how moses got it but he might have had some older records or the lord gave it to him directly okay art not good uh... secular and i've got personal the program for our unique family and all uh... work for the record thank you very much appreciate that all right let's get the martin from virginia martin welcome you're on the air hey matt hey in your pet yes i can this weekend we got money all right hey this is just a kind of jumping on that post was wrong uh... call early really quick thirty seconds is what back on and we could drop all so i i get this a lot from some family members of friends that paid don't you like social security don't you like a medicare you're medicaid and it's like well that that's not social it'll not be social program in a couple of siding all profit supported by very socialistic build-up bar and in an economy to support that first or pay for it and you've got all kinds of private capital private uh... institution supported as well to make it feel great that everybody in the socialist nation welcome here that kind of what i want that that's very good i like that it's a social program in a capitalistic society if you think about it's the only reason it can work because it's not in a socialistic system it's in a capitalist system which has the backbone of money and the depth of the resources bill provided it would you trade your social security for venezuela's social security program? no it's not a socialism and you're not a socialist because you partake in a social program my social circle after church is not a socialist society it's just a social program that's right bad news alright buddy god bless you okay let's get to chuck last caller really fast on shepherds chapel i think we got less than a minute yes sir i'm matt this is chuck uh... i'm wondering the shepherds chapel that you mentioned at the beginning of your broadcast is that the one out of either carrie or raleigh north carolina i forget where they're out of but uh... uh... it's bad news don't listen to him there's a while bump that they tried to treat while the premiere country it's a good part of the project of work separate shepherds bad news comforter tomorrow right time but i think we're going to call that are about plus a folks we're at a time in the lord bless you and hope obvious interesting 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