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And this is Will Hardy, the other co-host. Will, you know, as we closed out the last show, we were on number 11 as it relates to the 45 goals of communism. Let's restate that, Will, if you don't mind reading number 11 again, because I think it speaks volumes out of all the 45, equally as important as any other, of what's going on in our country right now.
And globally, what's been going on for the last 20, 25 years? Well, when we talked about it, it reads, it promotes the UN as the only hope for mankind if its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. According to the rapture, the movie was all about the rapture, and when the rapture occurred, then what has to take place? Oh, I remember that movie.
And then it's basically a one-world order, one-world armed forces, right, that controls everything. So this, folks, if you're a believer in the book, and you're a follower of Christ, this is just further fulfillment of the Scriptures. I just wanted to say, when you said The Thief in the Night, I remember seeing that I was in the military, and I went with three buddies of mine to the theater that was on base. And one of my friends got saved as a result of looking at that movie.
He went back and started reading the Bible, and he said he just wanted to give his life to Christ. So when you said that, that immediately came to me. But I didn't mean to cut you off there, but I wanted to say that.
No, no, you did cut me off, yeah. Amen to that. That's an interesting movie. It's an old one, folks. Don't look at it from the theatrical effects and components, but the message is extremely strong even today. And funny enough, I think it's on Pure Flix, or one of them.
I went back and watched it in the last two years. It's about this lady who's been to a church meeting. Her husband has gotten saved, if I remember correctly. She's not made a commitment, and she returns back after this church meeting, goes into nighttime sleep, and dreams that the rapture happens. And when she wakes up, everything she's just dreamed is coming to fruition.
And the first thing is her husband's electric razor is laying in the sink, just vibrating, because the rapture has occurred, and he's been taken up, and she's been left behind. And it's a great little movie that certainly speaks volumes. And I remember well, Will, that set the tone for me going back and talking to my parents about salvation and making sure their salvation was assured over the next several years.
Wow, that's great, Roy. So you have some information in reference to a meeting that took place. Yeah, the meeting we discussed in Davos, Switzerland, on the previous show occurred the third week. I believe it was January 16th through the 23rd, or somewhere in that range.
Forgive me, I don't have the exact dates. But one thing for note is the overarching theme of the weekend was cooperation in a fragmented world. And basically, if you think of that, how do you have cooperation in a world means you've got to get everybody agreeing to the same components of the strategy and moving forward next steps and so forth. So call it many different things. In fact, the article even said this annual event was once regarded as a cheerleader for globalization. I don't think that's changed.
I think the wording may have changed or the nomenclature for the event may have changed in the theme, but I don't believe that concept has changed at all. I think you're right, Roy, because I think within every country or even within the government, you're going to have the mentality of folks that disagree with a lot of what that particular government does. But there's a lot of things, I think, that this particular branch or this meeting that they're trying to accomplish. But again, it goes back to how you go about doing that. Because you've got all these diverse attitudes, you've got certain philosophies or how to approach it.
So what would be the best option? Because again, at such a large body of people, each one is more than likely thinking, what's in it for my country? How are my people going to be affected? So you're always going to have that division within how we come about coming up with a solution and some resolution to issues that a lot of these things we've instilled on ourselves over the course of many, many, many centuries. And here we are today. Right in the middle of it.
Right in the middle. Number 12 will resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. Let me tell you, Roy, how the communists would approach this when it comes to government. What they would say is, okay, and I'm speaking now from today's standard, what they would say is, okay, we're an organization. And just like any other organization, because we organize and these are our beliefs, we are protected by the Constitution in relation to free speech.
Okay? So that's the premise and the legalese that they would use in order to say, you can't disband us, you can't say that we are this, that, or the other, because we're just speaking what any other organization who has the freedom to speak their mind. So again, you take something that's legitimate and then you say, how illegitimate can I make it in order to keep it active to fulfill their ultimate mission?
You see? So it's like, again, we have problems, we have issues, and just because I'm speaking Marxism, you should not ban me. So this is the approach that they would take, saying that we're an organization and we have the right to speak whatever it is we speak.
Now, the question is, how they go about doing this and what influence that they would have over predominantly individuals who are young and in college. Because Schusen, he wrote about this in The Naked Communist. He talked about a friend of his who had a conversation with a professor. And if we have a little time here, Roy, I'd like to just read some excerpts. Sure.
Go ahead, Will. So what he said is, the students having a conversation with this professor, and the professor said this. He said, In the beginning, I said to the professor, men worship things which they created with their own hands, and it was called idolatry. He said later, Men, imagine that there were many, a great many unseen gods, god of war, god of love, god of rain, etc. And then he said, All these gods required some order of sacrifice in order to keep them happy.
Otherwise, they showed forth their wrath. He said, Therefore, have a god which is a god of vengeance. So the way he worked this ideology with this student is, he went on to say that it's clear that the Bible practice idolatry prevailed among ancient peoples, and that the Hebrews finally rose above it, worshiped Jehovah God, the god of vengeance.
So see, what he's doing is he's putting God in the category of all of these other idol-worshipping people who were at the time worshiping idols, you know, since the inception of whatever the god that they were forming was all about. But what's the beauty behind this is that when the professor got through talking and putting forth his argument, the student came back and he said, Hey, doctor, have you ever had the opportunity to read the Old Testament? And the professor chuckled. He said, Well, only parts of it. And then the student went on to say, Everything that you were talking about in reference to idolatry, I can't find that in the Bible.
He said, I can't find it. The student basically said, When the story that religion started out as idolatry evolved from worshiping the god of vengeance, then he ultimately made it into worshiping the god of love. So then he said, Tell me, where do I find this?
And then the student goes on to talk about that. He said the god of the Bible taught that God raised up prophets. He raised up witnesses from early times.
He went on and continued to say he understood the Bible. We talk about that in the beginning, God revealed pattern for men and what they should do. In order to maintain fellowship with him, that God is sovereign. He said he taught us to not steal, not lie, not cheat, and not to serve man.
You know, in a way that makes man God. Not to serve man for the premise of bringing them to Christ. But serving mankind in a way to make them God. And when he finished, there's some more here, but when he finished the conversation, the professor said he put, because they went over to Isaiah and they read a bit of what Isaiah said in reference to basically what God was all about. When he read that, he said, the student asked him, Would you like to hear what Jehovah himself said about sacrificing and all these other things?
They went over to Isaiah chapter 1 verses 11 through 19. Wash you, make you clean, put away the evil going from before you, my eyes. Cease to do evil. Learn to do well. Seek judgment. Relieve the oppressed. Judge the fatherless.
Plead for the widow. Come now and let us reason together, says the Lord. Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow. Though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. If ye are willing to be obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land.
Isaiah 1, 11 through 19. That says it all right there, Roy. Amen, Will. That's good. Number 12, we just talked about resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. 13, this is a strong one, Will.
It is. Do away with loyalty oaths. I think a lot of that, Roy, we see because we don't have it in the public school system. No more Pledge of Allegiance to the flag and never mind that all of the laws that we have today in our society, never mind that all of them were built off of the premises of what God said to the Israelites and the laws that were generated. You know, in the Old Testament in reference to disputes with neighbors and killing of an animal. I mean, all these things, marriage, all of these things are based foundationally off of what the Word of God says. And yet we've done away with it. And this just goes further to say what we've been saying all along is we're moving further and further away from God in this country. Absolutely, Roy. Absolutely. Number 14, continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office.
Oh my goodness, Roy. If we have done so many things, I think, in order to again to attempt to generate and mend ties between nations, that we don't realize that as time progressive, a lot of the thought processes that we had when terms were established and initiated back then have changed over time. You know, the mentality of governments have changed over time. See, so man is constantly changing, but God, as the scripture says, is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He is unchanging.
So whatever God said still applies, and it applies for every man, woman, boy, and girl ever born throughout history. But when you have a situation like giving access to patents, you know, when you talk about an invention or someone coming up with something to better society, how would it look, Roy, if you have a motive, an underlying motive, but you need access to a patent in order to sell it in that country so that you could do things with your invention that benefits you and possibly hinder the progress of the country where the patent was initiated? That would never happen, Will.
Oh my goodness, Roy. That would never happen. But again, these are real five situations that we're talking about here. We're talking about things that we don't think about on a daily basis. And yet, when they come about and ultimately to some type of fruition, then we say, wow, how did this ever happen? And see, we have to go back and look in history.
We have to go back and look at a lot of the agreements that were made between countries or between people, between governments or between groups or companies, you know, that was established. So, you know, it's a bombshell that has exploded. 15, Roy.
Yeah, I'm sorry, Will, I didn't mean to interrupt you. One note from our producer that that movie we're speaking about was made back in 1972, Like a Thief in the Night. It was, Patty Dunning was the star of the movie and Johnny's let us know.
The movie is actually on YouTube, so if you look it up, Like a Thief in the Night or Thief in the Night, but 1972. Again, look past the old technology and look at the theme and the message in the movie. Unbelievable message. So, Will, proceed with number 15. This should raise some folks' attention levels for listening. Again, Roy, like we said back in some of the earlier episodes when we started talking about this, we want to educate, not agitate.
But if you get agitated, then maybe, you know, you need to do some self-evaluation. But 15 says capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S. And that one is specifically underlined. And what would one say about our political parties? We know they've been infiltrated by multiple different theologies, right? Different approaches. And to say they're captured, I would say there's quite a bit of control in some of our people that are sitting on both sides of the aisle, which is rather concerning.
And it should be for us as voters and us as U.S. citizens. But mainly as born believers. Yeah, as followers of Christ, exactly. Because, again, the ways you make an attempt to overtake a system of government and or persons thinking is you have to get people in there who would, again, agree with those beliefs.
Right. So if you start flooding, you know, and the local citizens with some type of philosophy in which they adopt as their own. Because, again, this is the same method used by Satan in the Garden of Eden. He took his thoughts, he presented his thoughts to Eve, and she adopted his thoughts as her thoughts. And as a result of that is we have the mess that we have today in our society and ultimately around the world. But, you know, you're always going to have, Roy, you know, a group of people who said, well, what makes Christianity better than any other religion around the world? How would you address that, Roy?
They asked you that question. What makes Christianity different? What makes this Jesus Christ different than any other religion? Well, that's the only, and the main premise is that he came and died for us. He loved us so much he came and died for us, became man and came and died for us that we would have eternal salvation.
No other religion, no other thought process, no other theology has that core element. And it all began with God and the Word, right? So the whole journey of being a follower of Christ is a love relationship, not about personal sacrifice, even though we are to give up our way of life and pick up our cross and follow him. But God rewards those that are following him. He honors them and he blesses them.
And I'm not talking about prosperity gospel. I'm talking about he watches over us. You and I have talked about this many times before, Will, and the things that have happened in our lives that we literally saw the hand of God intervene, whether it was through angels or whatever, to prevent our deaths. We've talked about that.
And that to me, it's about the love relationship and the sacrifice that God made for us is what sets it apart and what makes it makes it real as opposed to imaginary. Roy, we got a couple of minutes left, so you want to go ahead and have some closing remarks? Well, Will, it's just been an interesting topic. I think we've got looking at the next several items that we'll bring up on the next episode. I think, folks, we need to stay tuned into these 45.
Again, you can see these for yourself. From the Naked Communist is the title of the book, originally written, I think, in 1960 or somewhere around that range. And then it was updated by the original author's son several years ago. Amazing, amazing. Brain dead here, guys. Johnny, you get to clean this one up. An amazing amount of information that's so pertinent to today's society and the things that we've seen come to fruition, but very shocking if you really look at it in the long haul. So folks, as Will said, we're trying to educate you, not agitate you. But if you get agitated, maybe there's something stirring inside of you that says, hey, I need to do something. But in the right way, in the Godly way. And as we always say, look at things through the biblical lens. And if you're seeing it through the biblical lens and God's raising an awareness and action in you, then move forward with it.
And we're talking about social action, not physical action. All right. Well, we'll hope we have everyone join again next time as we continue our conversation of 45 ways in which communism has came into our country and have made us think unbiblical. Thank you and join us next time. Hi, folks, this is Johnny Topham's producer for MANTALK radio podcast. I just want to remind you to join us every first, third and fifth Friday for an amazing breakfast and fellowship with men who have a heart for God and a love for their fellow Christian men at the crossing at South Main Campus, located 1130 South Main Street. Cornersville, North Carolina, 27284. Doors open at six thirty with a hard stop at eight a.m.
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